1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesday's This is a Big Look kick off 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: live here on giants dot com. He Jeff Fiegl's I'm 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Lance metto with you for the next sixty minutes to 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: zero one nine four or five one three. That is 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: one way for you to take part in the program. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: You could also chime in via Twitter hashtag Giants Chat. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: We got a lot to tackle over these next sixty minutes. Well, 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of course, get to your phone calls, to get to 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: your tweets. John Mara spoke earlier today, so we'll review 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: some of his comments and go over the latest team news. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: So let's start with John Mara who spoke to the 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: media Jeff, and he was peppered with questions about the 13 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Stunning development, right, we don't see that heard 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: it here on Big Blue. And he was obviously asked about, well, 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: what would be the ideal search situation to play out 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: this season? And he said that in an ideal world, 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the team does well, Elimanning starts and plays all sixteen 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: games and Daniel Jones does not see the field at all, 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: at least in a regular season game. Where you heard 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: it from the headman then, and we've been talking about 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot of different scenarios. Ever since they drafted Daniel Jones, 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: ever since the Giants have looked towards the future. It 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: is not a crazy situation if it does play out, Jeff, 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: where the young quarterback observes and becomes a spectator. You've 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: seen it with Philip Rivers watching Drew Brees for multiple years, Jeff. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: We've seen it with Aaron Rodgers watching Brett Farve. Patrick Mahomes, 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: I know, has brought up a lot, but he essentially 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: sat the entire season. He doesn't get into that final game. 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: By the way, if Kansas City actually has to play 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: for something in Week seventeen, they didn't, so they had 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: nothing to lose by playing the rookie quarterback. But the 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: point is there's been a lot of examples in NFL history, 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's essentially what John Marrow was emphasizing. Well, 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: it has I think that you know, you have to 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: take a stance on this and and be and be 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: consistent with it. You know, this is the way it's 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna play out. Um, if the team does. Mr Mara 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: has said if it listen, if it's if it's if 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: it goes well, then he like you know what's gonna 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: happen next year. We don't care. We just care about 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen season. Let's find out how we do 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and then we'll go from there. But we also know 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: the scenario that if it goes the other way, there's 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: no question who's coming back, who's coming in. So it's 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: very easy to me. You make you commit to what 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna do, what they're doing. Heli is the guy 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: play sixteen games, that's a good season. Great, then you 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: know what we'll we'll deal with this after the season's over, 49 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: but you know, look for him to come in if 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: the season doesn't go on. And you gotta remember this 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: just because Eli is playing well and then maybe the 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: team isn't doing well, there may be a change in 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: the guard there too. And we've talked about this over 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: and over and it's never gonna end until something happened. 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you can talk about how he 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: played last week in the game. You can talk about 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: how are Eli played in the game, how what's coming 58 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: up in the you know, in the preseason, it's just 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: the opening day will be number ten under center start 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: of his sixteenth season with the Giants, The longest tenured player, 61 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: and John marrow is also asked about the fact that 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, Eli Manning is antoing territory that no other 63 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: player has ever entered, and how challenging does that make 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: it when you ultimately have to make the transition from 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: him to Daniel Jones. Like I said, I think, before 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you start answering questions, you sit down as an organization 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and come up with the plan and you have to 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: be all on the same page with it, and all 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the answers have to be the same. You know, yes, 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: it will be a difficult situation, but the only person 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: that's going to control the narrative here is Eli Manning period. 72 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if Eli plays well, then you know what 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna deal with next year whenever it happens. But 74 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: right now, I think, as long as everybody's on the 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: same page and they're making the same comments and it 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: sounds like they are, that's what you have to deal 77 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: with well. And that was also one of the things 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: that John marraw brought up when he was asked to 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: reminisce about the whole draft process and how he said 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the reason why they felt really good about Daniel Jones 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: is how Dave Gettleman. To your point, Jeff and Pat 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Shermer were on the same wavelength, even the scouting department, 83 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in the front office, you go around the room. Can 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: fiction was a term he used. We use that term 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: when we talked about the draft. If everybody is on 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: the same page, if everybody sees the same thing when 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: they sit down and review the film, then that makes 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you feel even more confident in utilizing that because you 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: know that that doesn't happen around the league consistently. There's 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: always there's always guys in the room that do not 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: agree with what's about to happen. And because of the 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: power struggle that you have with the upper management and 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: where the decision makes has made you have no choice 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: other than to say, Okay, you know what, I don't 95 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: like this, but we'll go with it. Okay, But as 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: soon as it happened, and everybody's got to be on 97 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: the same page and say, you know what we're gonna 98 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: even though you didn't, you gotta be on the same 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: page with it. And I think that everybody is, and 100 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: I think everybody's got to be a little bit excited 101 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: about how Daniel played in that first game. Let's not 102 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: get too excited, but you know, he did some good things, 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: and I think if you really broke it down and 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Mike Shuler was sitting next to us and Pat Shermer 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: was sitting next to us, they would find things that 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: he could improve on, just like anybody. And that's what 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: you have to do in these games. So far, so 108 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: good was the quote from John Maroon Daniel Jones button. 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: He brought up the exact point that you mentioned, Jeff. 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: We also need the temper expectations. It was one pre 111 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: season series one and I know we live in a 112 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: world where it's instantaneous gratification. Let me crown the kid immediately, 113 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: but he certainly has things that he needs to improve upon. 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer even said, you know, signaling the tight end 115 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: in motion on the very first play, So you know, 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: those nuances are gonna come as you get more experience 117 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: and more reps and as you get into game planning. 118 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: There's no game planning in preseasons. Um, Greg Williams was 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: not gonna show the New York Giants anything that they're 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: gonna show in the regular season because they play him quickly, 121 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and that's you're not gonna it's base defense, base coverages, 122 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: did well, should have done well. With number six pick 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: in the draft, you would expect that he did, he 124 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: would do well. I mean you would be sitting here 125 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: scratching your head if he was over six one pick, 126 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: then be like, oh my goodness, and we will be 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: talking about the same thing. Wow, he couldn't complete a 128 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: pass in base defense? What's going on here? So I 129 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: think that you know, he did well. He'll get a 130 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: little bit more. Um. Unfortunately, we would have loved to 131 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: see him play a little bit more if it wasn't 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: for the weather delay. Coach Sherman had said he would 133 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: have he would have taken some more snaps. I don't 134 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: know exactly how many sixth dad, I think is what 135 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: he said, but that would have been nice. So but 136 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: look for him to get more work this week against 137 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the Bears. Okay, Um, you know, does he start the game? 138 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I have no idea what 139 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: it is. Um, maybe it would be a good idea 140 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: for him to start the game against that number one 141 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: defense of the Bears. They're pretty good. That defense is 142 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: pretty good. I know they're not gonna be in there 143 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: for you know, a blink of an eye. They'll be gone, 144 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: but at least give him a taste of some of 145 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: of a really NFL even though it's a base defense. 146 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: The Bears are pretty good. They like to take away 147 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the football opportunistic. There's that word opportunistics I have I 148 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: have aced that word your opportunity opportunistic, opportunistic and of 149 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: the tongue that's man did it didn't roll off the 150 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Well, I had to say 151 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: it now in the preseason just to get your mentally 152 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: prepared for what is to come in the right Well, 153 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: you need to move on to a different word that 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I can mess up and try to get better at it. 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I will try to reshape the jar get of football 156 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: just for you, Jeff this season. But your point is 157 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: well taken. The Bears were one of the best defenses 158 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it would be nice for either 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Daniel Jones, or some combination of the bolt 160 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: of them to see and be exposed to that defense. 161 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer has said he likes to get all of 162 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: his quarterbacks out there and just about every preseason game, 163 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: with the exception of the fourth preseason game, because that's 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: when maybe you want to give the youth movement, a 165 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: lot more playing time so that you could finalize the 166 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: back end of the roster. So I would not be 167 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: surprised Jeff if Eli Manning does start to those circumstances. 168 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: But then to your point, Daniel Jones, you're expecting him 169 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: to play much more than one series in this next contest. Um. 170 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, looking at practice this week, Um, that it 171 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: was a you know, a turnaround, a lot of a 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: lot of practice from the last game he had last 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Friday up until today is a Tuesday, a lot of 174 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of four days in a row there, Um, 175 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: guy's gonna get some time off, and you know that 176 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna turn around and go play play a game soon. 177 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: So I think they're when you get to be Eli's age, um, 178 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: and the team knows this, there comes a point time 179 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: where you you know, you've seen these manage the guys, 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: the older guys get a what's it called the mace. 181 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a maintenance dayd management is what it's called 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: in the NBA. That's why. Is that what it is? Yeah, 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: they call it load management and load management. I like 184 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: that one, but I like the maintenance day to all right, 185 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: maintenance day A right, take care of your tires, take 186 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: care of your oil, you know, get refreshed. But that's 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: what they are and and and believe it or not, 188 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: in today's NFL, that word is used more because people 189 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: understand that it means more. Years ago, maintenance day was there? 190 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: That was you never said that nobody got a maintenance day? 191 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Are you? I could just see Tom Coffin saying this 192 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: about ten years ago, fifteen years maintenance day? What are 193 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: you gonna go with your car oil chair? Ang? I mean, 194 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: come on, um, my maintenance day when because obviously I 195 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: was always when I was in a lot of maintenance 196 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: days because I was the older guy on the team. 197 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: But we couldn't kick every day. I mean, I'm like 198 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: I was like a picture. You know, you can't throw 199 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: a hundred football or a hundred baseball? Is a day 200 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you gotta take some time off. My point here is 201 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: it with Eli having these practices back to back to 202 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: back to back and then having a game coming up, 203 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: you know you want you need to give him a 204 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: little bit of time off. He certainly doesn't need the 205 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: game preparation at all. So that's why I'm saying, maybe 206 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: you'll see Daniel Jones getting there for an extended period 207 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: of time. Who knows. It doesn't really matter. It really 208 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: doesn't know. In the big picture of things, the coaching 209 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: staff knows who they truly need to evaluate, who have 210 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: the work Jeff, and who is in good shape entering 211 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: the season already. Um, I haven't been on since the game, 212 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you there's a couple of takeaways from 213 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: the game that I am that I was happy to see. UM. 214 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Number one, I was happy with the secondary and they 215 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: played a lot UM certainly have to play bad um. 216 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: But and the other thing is on the offensive side, 217 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: there was not a lot of drop passes, which I 218 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: thought was good. And I thought the tackling at this 219 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: point in juncture of the season was pretty decent. I mean, 220 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: usually that first preseason game you get a lot of 221 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: bad tackling. I thought the Giants did well in those categories. 222 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Did not see anything any pressure on the quarterback, which 223 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: which begins It's starting to begin to bother me a 224 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, again, this is without scheme, 225 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: this is out game planning. But I would think that 226 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: some of these guys could get to the quarterback, UM 227 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: being you know who they were up against. I mean 228 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: You've got ninety players in camp and a lot of 229 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be on the on any NFL roster. 230 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Get after the quarterback, I was a little bit um taking. 231 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: I wish we could see and that's something that has 232 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: to change the lands, you know, that has to change, 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully it will. But I was really excited about 234 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. Yeah, the young guys got a lot of 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: playing time. Man. They were Valentine, Julian Love, DeAndre Baker. 236 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, they were not holding back and it's important 237 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: for them to get reps because this was their first 238 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: taste of the National Football League. And Um, Chandler played 239 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: well too, you know. So he's a guy that's you know, 240 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: in in the mix for that other safety position. Um, 241 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: because I gotta believe they're gonna keep well four after 242 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: because Love can play a little bit of corner and 243 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: he has that flexibility of so yeah exactly, and Michael 244 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: Thomas could play safety and corner and as you can 245 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: move him into the slot, and both both Chandler and 246 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas both there, they can play special team, which 247 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: makes it. And then Conley, I mean that guy was 248 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean I was I know, 249 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I want to pump the brakes a little bit, but 250 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: I just love the energy level that that guy has. 251 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he has a motor um reminds me a 252 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: lot like and listen to comparison and Chase Blackburn was 253 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: a heck of a football player, a smart guy, just 254 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: knew the defense better than maybe some of the coaches 255 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: and was always in the right place at the right time. 256 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: But you know, not as fast as as uh As 257 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Conway at all. He was all over the place. I 258 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: just love watching him play. Speaking of the secondary. By 259 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: the way, DeAndre Baker did speak to the media earlier today. 260 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: He said he's not feeling discomfort in the sprain knee, 261 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: which is certainly good news that the Giants received yesterday 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: after he went for an m r I, and he's 263 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: still day to day. Would he get in in Friday's game. 264 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: I think probably they're gonna lean towards resting him. That's 265 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: just my personal opinion. We haven't heard anything, and then 266 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: you move him along slowly so that hopefully he could 267 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: take part in that third preseason game. Pat Shermer also 268 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: was asked once again about Golden Tate and is there 269 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: any word about conclusion to the suspension, and Pat Shermer 270 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: did say that they're anticipating hearing something shortly, but the 271 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: NFL is going to make the announcement. The Giants are 272 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: not going to make the announcement, which is usually how 273 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: it is always handled. So you know, that's at least 274 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: some team news in terms of injuries and pending suspensions 275 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and appeals and kind I mean that it's an invitable 276 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. You just want to know because every 277 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: day you get up and it's like, Okay, it's hitday, 278 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: going to be the day, and it's just not you know, 279 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: get it over with and finished, and um, we'll see 280 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: what happened. I mean I would be I would be 281 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: surprised just from the history of how things work that anything. Um, 282 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: it could be reduced. I maybe, but I don't think 283 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna go away. There is gonna be a suspension 284 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I've just been between two and 285 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: four games. Well, it's a zero tolerance policy, So I'm 286 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: with you, Jeff. It's hard to believe that things are 287 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: drestly going to change, but you will wait and see 288 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: what happens. I think the Giants are certainly in their 289 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: head preparing for him to miss some games. How many 290 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: that remains to be seen? Think correct, If it gets 291 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: cut in half, it gets cut in half. If not, 292 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's why they're valuating all of these wide receivers. 293 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, speaking of some takeaways from 294 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: the preseason game, you were focusing on the secondary in 295 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the linebackers, t J. Jones, I thought I had a 296 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: very nice performance, Jeff, speaking of a I that's doing 297 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: the right thing to try to solidify a roster spot 298 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: here right now, and a guy that just you know, 299 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: just brought in recently. I mean, hasn't been around here 300 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: only for a few weeks and UM veteran veteran well, 301 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: and you can tell that's why it's not a surprise 302 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: that he could produce him. Yeah, and I feel, you know, 303 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of one of those guys where he could 304 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: make a make comes in and makes a statement and 305 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: makes the team. I'd like to see how he plays 306 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: special teams. I don't know if he has a history 307 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: a special team play or not, but that's going to 308 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: make a difference. Um, while Golden Tate is out of 309 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: the lineup, I could see t J. Jones stepping in 310 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: here and making some place I absolutely can. And to 311 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: answer your question, he's been a return man, so he 312 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: could certainly contribute on that front as a kickoff guy 313 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: as well as a punt guy. He got some opportunities 314 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: in the last preseason games. Yeah, well, he had to 315 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: retreat for one and it was a very tough angle 316 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: and did not hold onto the football. But I certainly 317 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: think he made up for it in terms of what 318 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: he did at the wide receiver spot. We saw Benny 319 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Fowler make plays, Cody Latimer made plays, and Russell Sheppard 320 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: made that big catch and run for a touchdown. And 321 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: no coincidence, all three of those guys were on the 322 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: roster last year and you hope to see them pick 323 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: up where they left off. You add t J. Jones 324 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: into the mix. That's why whenever we field questions, Jeff, 325 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and we've been getting questions on this program, you know 326 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: the Giant's gonna look at other wide receivers. My answer is, 327 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: I think they like the veteran group that they have 328 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: here and let's see if a young guy can push 329 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: one of those established players. But all of these guys 330 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: right now in camp are familiar with the scheme. You 331 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: bring in somebody new. You gotta have you have to 332 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: take it to account that Jeff, it may take a 333 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: week for them or you know what's going on. You know, 334 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe a veteran could catch on a little bit quicker. 335 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: But the point is you're gonna need a few days 336 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: before they understand the ins and outs of the offense, 337 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: so you're not really helping yourself. I agree with you. 338 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: I think that the staff really likes who's here. I 339 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: think they're they're good working group. Um, I haven't seen 340 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: any type of diva. If you will that I use 341 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: the come from that that that position you've been around, 342 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: your favor But I feel like this is a group 343 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: that likes to work, and it's competitive and likes to 344 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: make each other better. And you certainly want to see 345 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: that out of out of the receivers. When you've got 346 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna go on on the suspension list, okay, 347 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: so someone's gonna have to step up, and we always 348 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: talk about the next man up, one of these young 349 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: guys to do it. Russell Shephard's prime example. The guy 350 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: stepped up. I mean he stepped up last season when 351 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: you didn't really think he was gonna do much he 352 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: did well and now he's just continues to do it. 353 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: He's a guy you gotta look at. And t J. Jones. 354 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: I like the way he plays. I watched him out 355 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: of practice today. I like the way he works, like 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: the way he catches the ball is awareness and where 357 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: he's in the crowd um. And it was actually a 358 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: lot of fun to get out there and watch practice today. 359 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to watch enough of it um 360 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: this year, but it was good to get out there 361 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: with it ten fifteen, so I was able to make 362 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: it on the field in terms of Jeff Feagel told 363 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: once you have it at ten fifteen tomorrow aund Forth. Yeah, 364 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: it worked out good. Got to see a couple of 365 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: punt periods, which is more important. That goes without saying, yeah, absolutely, 366 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: it's all really good, good stuff. I thought I saw 367 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: from Afar. You were chatting up. Maybe I was talking 368 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: to Riley, Yeah, and Ryan Anderson. They like to come 369 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: to the well for some of the knowledge, of course, 370 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: and you know what, you know what. Both of their 371 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: questions were about directional kick and go figure. Well, repute 372 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: your reputation precedes itself. Not easy. I tell him, it's 373 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: not easy. You gotta work it, of course. I mean, 374 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: and then you don't just snap your fingers and become 375 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles overnight. Well no, but I will tell you 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: that once you are able to perfect that, it can 377 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: help you. You know, the longevity because once the hang 378 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: time goes down and punting, they want you to start 379 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: direction and so you can make up for it. And 380 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: that's how I got to play in a later in 381 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: my years. I didn't have the great hang time, but 382 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: I had the precision of the accuracy we're putting on 383 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: where I wanted to. All Right, enough punting, we got, 384 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: We met our punting quota. Is there a bell in there? 385 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: We can bring the bell enough that for future shows 386 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: two zero one four or five one three. That's the 387 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: telephone over hashtag giants Chat, Lance Meado, Jeff Feagles with 388 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: you Here the latest edition a Big Blue Kigoff Live 389 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: presented by Coors Light. Let's open up the lines. We've 390 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: got Ross in Philly. He gets us going, Ross, Welcome 391 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: to Big Blue Kigoff Live. What do you have? Ross? Hey, guys, 392 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: how are you? It's always an honor to us speak 393 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: to you both. Um. I love the online concept that 394 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: you guys put up UM and I was watching the 395 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Sitan Sounds with Julian love Um and he's one part 396 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: he was I think he was talked about Davis Webb 397 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: and he was saying about rhythm throws. I just wanted 398 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: to see why, you know, what that meant, what he 399 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: meant by that, Um, And then also ask um, it 400 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: seems like the Sitans and sounds um during the season 401 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: only after wins. I just wanted to see if there 402 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: was no reason behind that. Hmm. Well, I don't have 403 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: an answer for that. I don't have an answer either. 404 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: And then I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it. 405 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that it was a trend. I 406 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: know that obviously, our production team does everything it can 407 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: to you know, to ring as much behind the doors, 408 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, con concepts as well as content. I should 409 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: say to you so I can find out we could 410 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: try certainly relay that to you on future programs. But uh, 411 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: I know, at least for the preseason. I don't see 412 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: why that's gonna fluctuate with wins and lawses. I would 413 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: assume they're gonna do with Sights and Sounds ross for 414 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: every single preseason. Again, what was the question about rhythm 415 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: throws that came from Julian Love. What what was that? Yeah, 416 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: he just mentioned he was complet was talking to Um, 417 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: some of the other players, some of the other defensive facts, 418 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: and he just kept seeing rhythm throws, rhythm throws UM. 419 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: And then they showed the clip of UM. I think 420 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: it was David swept through the interception UM to Um, 421 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: one of the defensive backs. And I was just, like 422 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I said, I was just wondering it was like a 423 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: terminology or something UM that some of some of regular 424 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: people wouldn't know that you've got conception light on. I think, 425 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: I think I know where this so I I read 426 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I read about Michael Thomas letting Julian Love know a 427 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: little bit of actually even tweeted that out, and maybe 428 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that's where this is kind of rhythm throws is you 429 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: know the quarterback gets in these three or five step 430 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: seven step drops. This is just the rhythm you kind 431 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: of can if you're if you're keying in on that 432 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: type of a drop, that the quarterback is in rhythm 433 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: where you make your breaks on the football. I think 434 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with it. Remember, Michael 435 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Thomas was here last year with Davis Webb, so I 436 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: think he had he knew a little bit about his 437 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: rhythm and how he threw it, and maybe that helped 438 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: with the interception. Yeah, Michael Thomas, I didn't see the 439 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: clip that you're referring to Ross where Julian Love mentioned 440 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the rhythm throw. I did see the clip Jeff that 441 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: you brought up. Michael Thomas was on the sideline and 442 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: he was telling Corey Ballantine sent had the interception, and 443 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: he said, the quarterback that's in was on our team 444 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: last year and he doesn't shy away from throwing it, 445 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: meaning taking chances, being aggressive. That's what Michael Thomas was 446 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: relaying to Balantine and then obviously he aired it out 447 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Davis Webb and Balantine was there for the interception to 448 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: rhythm throw. My interpretation is in line with what you're 449 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: talking about, Jeff. It's the fact that you have quarterbacks 450 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: that they sometimes tip their cap a little bit, you know, 451 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: and they showcase what they're going to do playing and 452 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: play out and it becomes predict of. And I think 453 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: that's what Michael Thomas and Julian Love may have been discussing, 454 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: so that you know, Davis Webb is is constantly getting 455 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: into a rhythm where he's doing a similar step, is 456 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: similar drop back, and his eyes are on a certain 457 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: part of the field and you should be aware of 458 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: that and watch out for that because that will give 459 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: away his tendency so that you can have a better 460 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: read either jump or out or be in position for 461 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: an interception. There you go. Now you have it, Yank, Hey, 462 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: you gotta ross appreciate it. Thanks so much for tuning 463 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: in and to weighing in and the sights. It sounds 464 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: that the Giants did put up. I thought, you know, 465 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: provided some entertainment value as well as some insight in 466 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the last one, because you know, Michael Thomas was very 467 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: vocal and talking to some of the young guys and 468 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, coaching them up, which to me is a 469 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: really nice thing to see wearing a veteran on the 470 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: squad embraces some of the young guys. And you know, 471 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: I know it's maybe cliche to say, oh, well, that's 472 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: happening across the league, Jeff, And yes, I'm not saying 473 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: that that's unique, but I think sometimes veteran guys and 474 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: maybe you can relate to and teammates of yours. The 475 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is you know, give 476 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: pointers to a young guy who you know could very 477 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: well be taking your roster spot, whether it be this 478 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: year or next year. Remember, the NFL is a young 479 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: man's game. They're always looking for the next crop of prospects, 480 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Jeff to come in and take your spot. So I 481 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: can understand that the veteran is not necessarily enthusiastic to 482 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: give all these pointers to all of these young guys. 483 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: You were there. I really think it depends on the individual. 484 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: And if I look at Michael Thomas, he's an amazing man. 485 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: He's a great guy, um, And I just think that 486 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: that's just his personality and his character. There are some 487 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: guys that wouldn't give you the time of day. They 488 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: would just be like, you know, listen, if you're gonna 489 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: take my job, you're gonna do it without me helping you. Um, 490 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you know. But luck, yeah, good luck. But from a 491 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: team aspect, you kind of want to have everybody's you know, 492 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: has the same goal and that's a winning championships. And 493 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: some people would just help you and some people, Yeah, 494 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: it depends on the personality play it. But you're right, 495 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is certainly in a league of his own 496 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: and I think part of it is because Michael Thomas 497 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: has been in a position where he's had to, you 498 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: know what, hustle, do everything he can to even make 499 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: it on a fifty three man Ross's is a practice 500 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: squad player with the Niners who goes from there to 501 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: intercepting Tom Brady and his Dolphins regular season debut, to 502 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: then joining the Giants, and even with the Dolphins a 503 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: little becoming a key component of their secondary. And now 504 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: last season, you know, Michael Thomas wasn't just a special 505 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: teams He played a lot. He played a lot on defense. 506 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: They put him in the slot and they didn't hesitate. 507 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't be surprised. And I brought this 508 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: up with Howard yesterday and I said, I could see 509 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: three safeties being on the field that it's not so 510 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: much Jeff, three safeties in the safety position. It's Thomas 511 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: playing slot with the two safeties. So therefore technically three 512 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: three safeties on the field. Yeah, I mean, And I 513 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: said it earlier in one of the shows a couple 514 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Is that, uh, James Betcher, he has 515 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: the personnel that he is did he wants to be. 516 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: He can mess around with what he wants to do 517 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: out here. He's got depth at the cornerback in the 518 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: safety position as of right now, and he's got some 519 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: young people to be able to go out there and 520 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: do that, you know, to to seven if you had it, 521 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean they ran Paul was you know, he was 522 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: giddy about that because he had mentioned it. Oh, I 523 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: think they're gonna do this to to seven personnel grouping 524 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and they did it. Um. But you only do that 525 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: when you have seven cornerbacks that your confidence are gonna 526 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: be able to play. And some of those cornerbacks are, 527 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: by the way safety slash corners and that's what you 528 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: get out of that. So give and Michael Thomas, you 529 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: know he's UH special teams Pro Bowler last year. We 530 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: knew that coming in here that he's he excelled the 531 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: special teams um, just like some of these other guys 532 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: have to to make the team. You know, especially if 533 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: you are the fifth linebacker, the fifth wide receiver, it's 534 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: not even up for the peat. You either contribute on 535 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: special teams or you don't get a jersey. And we've 536 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: had many examples. I constantly bring this up on the 537 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Pro him out rehash it. For members of the audience 538 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: that may have not heard it in previous years. Jeff, 539 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, when we get the inactives, sometimes we're trying 540 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: to read between the lines. Okay, why was this guy 541 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: a healthy scratch? Whether it's Tavars King or you know, 542 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: some other corner that's been on the team previously, and 543 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: more often than not, it has to do with they 544 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: don't think that that player necessarily would have given what 545 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: they needed to on specialty. Yeah, in that position exactly. So, um, 546 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, the punt is the punt team is probably 547 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: the most important of the special teams units aside from 548 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: field goal. But I mean field goal that has to 549 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: do with just the kicker make the field goal. But punt, 550 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: it's with the coverage and protections and the field, the fields, 551 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, the distance you're covering and flipping the fields up. 552 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: Punt is the most important of the of the of 553 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the special team's units. They work the most on it. 554 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: So therefore the personnel has to be the most important, 555 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: which goes to what you were saying is that if 556 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: this guy doesn't we don't feel he's going to be 557 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: a good fit on our punt team, We're not gonna 558 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: have him active, So we need to bring this other 559 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: guy up. That's as he would happen. Leon Hall is 560 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: another example that comes to mind. He was with the 561 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Giants a few years ago, the former Bengals corner who 562 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: joined the team right at the beginning of training camp 563 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: that season. He also was a healthy scratch at times 564 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: because a special team, that's correct. Yeah, And he was 565 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: an older guy and that just didn't want you know, 566 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I just couldn't play the special team like the younger 567 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: guy did. So let's head back to the phone lines. 568 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: Mike is in Florida. Mike, Welcome to the the Big Blue 569 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Kick Off Live. What do you have for us? When 570 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: it's Jeff? How are you doing good? Do right? Mike? 571 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Um? It's funny, Jeff, you're talking 572 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: about Riley and Ryan asking you about directional punting. UM 573 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: special coach Special teams coach mcgahey was interviewed last week 574 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: and they asked him how Riley could improve improve his 575 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: game and he said, by you know, uh, focusing more 576 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: on directional punting. When we mentioned your name, so I said, well, 577 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: somebody remembers Jeff Bagel. That's nice. Yeah, was actually he 578 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: was when I he was the assistant under Tom quinn 579 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: Um when I was with the Giants, so you know, 580 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: team Mac and I go way back, and that was 581 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: when he was he came from l s U. Um, 582 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: he came from L s U. I can't remember if 583 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: it was before or after he went from or No. 584 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: I think he went from the Giants to L s 585 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: U and then back into the NFL. But regardless, he 586 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: was indoctrinated into directional kicking as a young special team's coach, 587 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: learning from from us or me and whoever. Um. So 588 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: now he's the understands how important it is. And you know, 589 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to get stuck on on directional kicking 590 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and punting the whole program, but I'm gonna tell you 591 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: it's very difficult for these young guys to learn how 592 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: to do it because they don't do it in college. 593 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Now Riley is a he's a veteran. He's been in 594 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: the league. I think this is gonna be his fourth year, 595 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth UM And it didn't take me, literally 596 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: probably till my six or seventh season to figure out 597 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: how to do it. So it's not easy, but you know, 598 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful today's world with the earners. Years 599 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: and years ago, there was only a handful of guys 600 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: in each conference that could return punts. Now there's a 601 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: guy back there every single week that most likely is 602 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: a better athlete and faster than the ten guys, and 603 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: I leave the punter out the ten guys covering it, 604 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: and so it puts a It puts a huge emphasis 605 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: on directional kicking, so that the coverage team knows where 606 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: the ball is going and you can corral that guy 607 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: at a certain area and eliminate his returns. Mcgahey would 608 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: tell us you after the Giants. That's what Dixon is 609 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: entering his fourth season, just throwing out some facts. I 610 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: fact check Jeff through the programming before we let you continue. 611 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: It's important to note that Jeff gets royalties every time 612 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: his name is brought up in a Giants press conference. 613 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: So that's another reason why Thomas mcgahey brings it up 614 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: as much as possible. Just thought i'd throw that out there, 615 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: but we'll let you continue. And your royalties, they're yeah, 616 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: they're not much, trust man, but you know, every little 617 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: thing counts. It might be they might take care of 618 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: a parking meter for thirty seconds. Maybe that's about how much. 619 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: I get it anyway, So what's up? What else you 620 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: got any Um? A couple of weeks ago, Jeff, you know, 621 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: I called up and I was comparing Ray Guy and 622 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: your statistics because I was kind of missed that on 623 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: a one punter or at the three eighteen and Ductees 624 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: were in the Hall of Fame. Um, you you had 625 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: you played twenty two seasons, the first two with the Patriots. Correct, 626 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: that's correct. Okay, after that the twenty seasons following that, 627 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: you averaged forty yards a punt every season, every seat 628 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: for twenty yards. That for twenty years. I just was 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: one and and you're the West season looked, you know, looked, 630 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, you were still kicking very well. What was 631 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: your deciding factor to retire? I it was my It 632 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: was my health. It was my health. Is my knee. 633 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: UM just kind of gave out. It was done, and 634 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't. The deciding factor was this. I probably could 635 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: have ended up continuing to ay that twenty third season, 636 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: but I couldn't train the way I wanted to train 637 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: and able to so that I would be I feel 638 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: comfortable going into a season and being able to play 639 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: the whole year. I didn't want to put the giant 640 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: at a you know, put him in a in a 641 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: situation where they were bringing guys in and out because 642 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: if I was hurt or not. So I just decided 643 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: that's it, you know, and I figured I'm gonna walk 644 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 1: away on my own terms. And that's when I went 645 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: to the Giants in April and told him, you know, 646 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: are actually was, Yeah, it was. It was April, early April, 647 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: before the draft. I'm done, so in case you guys 648 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: want to go draft somebody, and they did so. Yeah, 649 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess you had pretty much taken it. We got 650 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: the presidents of the Jeff Feagles Fan Club on the line, Mike, 651 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: you know we're not stopping. I'm I'm doing a glass root. Well, ridiculous. Well, 652 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: we're with you on that front. Well, Jeff, you were actually, 653 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: as we reminisce a little bit, you were at the 654 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: ceremony the year that Ray Guy was inducted. Right. It 655 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: was a special year where a bunch of punters where 656 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: there was together. You would have loved it, Mike. There 657 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: was uh NFL punters that were at at the at 658 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame when Rey Guy went in, and 659 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: that was just a fun that was a great reunion. 660 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: That was amazing to see some of those guys, and 661 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: you know I played with most of them, you know, 662 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: after the leaks. Of course, thank you Mike one day 663 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: as well. You appreciate the phone call. I'll be on. 664 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll be on tomorrow again. If you want to call nine. 665 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Yes to tomorrow. We will go over the early stages 666 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of Jeff Eagle's career. We'll go back to the Miami days. 667 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: We'll let you know his stats there and how the 668 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: trajectory towards a twenty plus year NFL career came about. 669 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: The phones will be lighting up tomorrow. You lead such 670 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: a strong foundation. No one knew at the time what 671 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: was going to become of the legend of Jeff Eagles. 672 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that on the latest edition. Thank you, 673 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: tick Off love you got it. We'll tease it anyway 674 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: we can. Let's head back to the line. Scott is 675 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Scott, welcome to the program. What do 676 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: you got for us? Hi, guys? How you doing today? 677 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: I want to join the Jeff Piagles fan class for 678 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: second time. On the Blue kick Off, I had mentioned that, 679 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: like the previous call of the Jeff was the best 680 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: punter I had seen since Gray Guy, and so you 681 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: deserve it. Well, thank you, thank you, Scott. Okay, that's enough, 682 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: let's go on. I do have a pet teeve and 683 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you guys can help me with this. 684 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: When Daniel Jones was drafted, um, originally everyone in most 685 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: of the media was saying that he was basically the 686 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: second coming of Eli Manning, And after watching him just 687 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: in the very short snippet that he had, I think 688 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: he's the first coming of Daniel Jones, not the second 689 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: coming of Eli Manning. If you watched the tape, which 690 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: I did, and I had a friend of mine watching 691 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: who's a lot more familiar with quarterbacks, he got that 692 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: fast or to set his feet. He had a better 693 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: point of release than Eli did in the time that 694 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: Eli played in that short snippet as well in the 695 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: first series. So my question really is comparing the two quarterbacks. 696 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: And this is a question that probably is hard to answer. 697 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: If the Giants don't do very well, say for the 698 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: first first three games, the person in the background didn't 699 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: like that. See when they hear Giants not doing well, 700 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: somebody in the vicinity of Scott is not too happy. Yeah, 701 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: if the Giants don't do well and they you got 702 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: to be careful whatever scenario. Why is it so difficult 703 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: to make a decision to say, hey, we want to 704 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: put another quarterback. And none of this is negating what 705 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Eli's worth, as none of it is saying this is 706 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: actually going to happen. But why is there a stigma 707 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: comparing the quarterbacks that another quarterback can do as well 708 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and always and it's a very short window, there's not 709 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: real progress. We won't know what will happen in the 710 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: next two preseason games. So I just want to know 711 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: why there's this stigma that exists. Because I was not 712 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: a fan of Daniel Jones being drafted by the Giants. 713 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: I was more Dwayne Haskins guy. And when he was drafted, 714 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to give him a fair shot, and after 715 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: watching him, I was more impressed with his overall presence 716 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. And that's one thing you look for 717 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: for any quarterback is what kind of present pocket presence 718 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: do they really have? And it really was outstanding, albeit 719 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: a very short uh example. So getting back to your point, Jeff, 720 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: in regards to making switches. You know when Boydsoe got 721 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: her Brady comes in, and you know, Katie barre the door. 722 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have six Super Bowls. So 723 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: the real key is not comparing any of this to 724 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: anything else, because it's a separate situation. Elies as different 725 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: as peyton As, even though the Cutcliff association exists for 726 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: all three. But I feel that even though um the 727 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: Jones went to the camp and learned the tutelage under 728 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 1: Eli is, he is his own man. It doesn't hurt 729 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback to be regarded as somebody else's, you know, 730 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: sort of secondhand quarterback. And I always found that offensive, 731 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: you know, let him stand on his own merits, etcetera. 732 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: I was wondering what your opinion was on something like that. 733 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: All right, well, I mean if you listen to Daniel Jones, 734 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't reference Eli a lot. I mean he will, 735 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: he will thank him, and you know we're in the 736 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: meeting rooms and yeah, this and that. But I think 737 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: that he's that he basically has prepared himself to understand that. 738 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah he is, that he's the successor. But I'm Daniel 739 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: Jones and I was drafted six in the NFL. I'm 740 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna make my own way about this. And when I 741 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: get on the field, I'm gonna get on the field. Um. 742 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's about it, and I think that's 743 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: a way to go to it. Nobody, like nobody wants 744 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: to sit back and constantly reference the guy that you're 745 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to beat out, know what I'm saying. And 746 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: I think that the way that he's going about it 747 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: has been a good way and the best way for 748 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: him to do anything is to do it on the field, 749 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: and do it in preseason games and just do what 750 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: he's supposed to do and let the chips fall where 751 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: they may, because nobody's gonna know. There's no you know, 752 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: crystal Ball that says in week number seven that Eli 753 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: is gonna do really really bad and that's going to 754 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: be the change in the guard. We don't know. He 755 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: just has to prepare himself for when that happens. And 756 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: whether it's next year or after the third or the sixteenth, 757 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, but nobody knows well. And all these 758 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: comparisons that you're bringing up Scott is really media driven. 759 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Jones is not sitting in the quarterback 760 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: room and he's saying, you know, let me try to 761 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: mimic everything Eli Manning does. It's getting to the point 762 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: where they were taking pictures of the two of them 763 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: standing at the podium and telling us that the way 764 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Eli Manning stands at the podium is the same way 765 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones stands at the podium. Yeah, they're both six. Yeah, 766 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: as if there's multiple ways to stand at the podium, 767 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: put two hands on the podium and you stand up. 768 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: So my point is, I think a lot of what 769 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: you're alluding to is just people have nothing better to 770 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: talk about because we don't have a regular season game 771 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: to break down, and you know, it's a nice convenient comparison. 772 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: But to answer your question, Daniel Jones, the legacy he builds, 773 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: whether he succeeds or not, is going to be based 774 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: on his own doing. It's not gonna be based on 775 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: what camp he went to, the fact that Cutcliff coached him. 776 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: Just like Elie, He's got to go out there and 777 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: do it. If he does it, great if he doesn't, 778 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: and that's the rest of the story. But it's got 779 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Eli's past, present or anything like that. Okay, well, 780 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys. I was just curious about that point. 781 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, Daniel Jones is not consuming himself with 782 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: the comparisons. I actually, I'll remember I remember a press 783 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: conference earlier during the course of this offseason, and one 784 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: of the questions posed that Daniel Jones Jeff was what 785 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: would be the ideal scenario for you to take over 786 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: his quarterback? As if Daniel Jones right now is going 787 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: home every night and saying to himself, yeah, week five 788 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. Give you like four games, 789 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: you know what, give you light aid games, and then 790 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: I take over midway. No, that that makes sense. Okay, No, 791 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: I'll sit for the entire season, and then I will 792 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: start at the beginning of two guys, Well, who thinks 793 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: like this? I get it. These questions they have to 794 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: be asked. Whatever you're hoping for, this great elaborate answer, 795 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: He's just he's certainly not the type of guy that's 796 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: gonna give you a great answer to that, nor should 797 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: he be consuming himself. And by the way, it's not 798 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna be his choice anyways. It's you know what I'm 799 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: saying it. And so, like I said, you just have 800 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: to prepare yourself and practice and do everything you can 801 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: to get yourself ready to play and feel comfortable enough 802 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: to play, because what you're gonna be by doing all that, 803 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: the coaches are gonna pick up on it. They are 804 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna feel comfortable when you're ready, and that might be 805 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: the sixth week or the third week. They might come 806 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: out of training gap and go, you know what, we 807 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: really think that Daniel Jones is ready to go tomorrow 808 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: if we wanted to start, and we could put him 809 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: in there. And that's what That's all you have to 810 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: do as a player. Never think about what the coaches 811 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: are gonna do. Just it's all you have to. Just 812 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: think about what you have to do as a player 813 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: and go out there and do it. And as the 814 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: more you do that, the better off you're gonna be 815 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: long long term and short term because there's you. You 816 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: don't ever in this league get to tell them what 817 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: to do. That's not how the National Football League works 818 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: other than quit, I don't want to play anymore. That's 819 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: your decisions choice. Okay, you're the head coach. I can't 820 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: come to you and say I want to play tomorrow. Okay, 821 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: it's my turn. Get Elie out of there. Really, you 822 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: know it's not gonna happen that way. So Daniel Jones. 823 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: Prepare yourself, go out and practice, and when the organization 824 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: thinks you're ready to go, that's great. But there'll be 825 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: a rhyme and reason why either Elie is really horrible 826 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: or they feel like Daniel is better. It's all about competition. 827 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna put the best player in there. 828 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: And this is a tough situation, like you said, Lance, 829 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: because this is where Eli is coming into unchartered waters here. 830 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be one of the longest tenure 831 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: giants ever, and you want to treat the situation very gingerly. Right, 832 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: Look what happened with the macadoo thing and then benching 833 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: him and things like that was a debacle. They don't 834 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: want to treat something like the change in the guard 835 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: to go arrive. We don't want that again. So they're 836 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna be very careful about it. And I think probably 837 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: this offseason when Eli Manning sat down with Dave Kettleman 838 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: Jeff those conversations, wanted to be a fly on the 839 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: wall because I'm telling you, there was so much more 840 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: into that conversation that people know about. It has to 841 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: be we're gonna draft a quarterback. Okay, that that's one. 842 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: That's great, And when we do, it's gonna be in 843 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: the first round. And this guy is gonna be capable 844 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: of coming in and taking your job at some point 845 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: in time. You're gonna have to understand this. Do you 846 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: understand this, Mr Manning? Yes? I do. But one thing 847 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: about Eli Manning is he's a company guy. He's a 848 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: team player. He will do everything he can to help 849 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: the team. It's all about the team. It's not about 850 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. It never has been, never will be either. 851 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: That's just the way he is. And I can assure 852 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: you that he's also not going to give the Giants 853 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: coaching staff a reason to make a change if you 854 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: know it's going to be on the team and what 855 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: happens with the team and not necessarily, And you can individual, 856 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: you can hope because you know what we've We've seen 857 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: Eli stink it up. We've seen him stink it up 858 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: plenty of times. You just hope that that's not the 859 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: cause and effect here, you know, and maybe you know, 860 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: if if I'm Eli and I understand what's been laid 861 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: out for me and have been told to me, that 862 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: even if I'm playing well and the team is not 863 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: doing well, we've got to give the young kid a 864 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: chance to play. Do you understand that we're gonna have 865 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: to do this? Okay, If that's the scenario and I'm 866 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, I'm gonna do everything I can to play 867 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: the way that I should play, because then I understand 868 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: the reason wasn't me. I don't want the reason to 869 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: be me that that I got replaced. Does that make sense? No, 870 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: it makes one present sense. That's actually exactly what I 871 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: was letting out. He can control what he can control, 872 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: and as long as he does that to a level 873 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: that's productive perfect, then you know what, even if they 874 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: do make a change at the end of the day, 875 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: if you're Eli Manning, at least if I was in 876 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: his shoes, Jeff, I would say, hey, I did all 877 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: I could do. It may have not led to the 878 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: ideal results, but I left it all out there and 879 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: then you know, let the cards play out how they are. 880 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: And that's all you can ask of any player, really, 881 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: and that's all you can ask of yourself as being 882 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: a professional player, is that you have to do everything 883 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: you can to do well and prepare. You don't want 884 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: any stone unturned. Okay. Preparation is a key to success. 885 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: Guys that that do not prepare, they don't succeed, and 886 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: they go beyond. The guys that go beyond the preparing, 887 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: they're the ones that succeed over and over and over. 888 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: And I won't bore you with any of the punting details. 889 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: But the only reason I lasted as long as I 890 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: did is because I went above and beyond the preparation 891 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: of how to get to the level in this game 892 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: that it is, which is a very difficult game. To 893 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: uh sustain and stay and be competitive, you gotta do 894 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: different things right outside the building. You have to do 895 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: different things to help you. Um, there's guys that leave 896 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: this building that will never ever do anything like that, 897 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: and those are the guys that will never ever played 898 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: long in this league. That's why it's not for long 899 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: in the National. Yeah, turnover right is extremely high, and 900 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: if you don't keep up with the rest of the pack. 901 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: To your point, Jeff, you're gonna be left behind. Let's 902 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: head back to the phone lines. Joe is in Pennsylvania. 903 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: Hey Joe, what's happened to Joe? Hey? Hi, guys, Right, 904 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: everybody wants to see that new toy the air out there. 905 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: It's a good point. Yeah, yeah, because you know even 906 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: how good he lies playing, you know, hey, get the 907 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: kid a chance. You know, he keeps playing like this. 908 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he was perfect, but look at that offensive line. 909 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: Didn't he I know it was against the second team, 910 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: but wasn't that My god, I I don't remember for 911 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: a while to put up a wall like that. They 912 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: really did give him some nice protection there. It makes 913 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: a difference, and it also helps when the opposing team 914 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: is not blitzing too. I think it was a combination 915 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: of two good factors, and he took advantage of it, 916 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: which he should, right. I mean, they look good for 917 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: that little bit, like I guess we're gonna see hopefully 918 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna see him for at least a quarter this game, 919 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 1: I guess our starting unit and then maybe uh next 920 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: game usually they go uh half and then you know 921 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: what I mean, last game it's everybody again, you know, 922 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: I guess usual. But the receivers do look pretty good too, 923 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: you know that we have there's gonna be some tough 924 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: cuts there too, And uh, I was really surprised on them. 925 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I was a little down on the running backs. 926 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: Besides our fullback he looked really good and the other 927 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: guy we picked up from Dallas that he looked good. 928 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: But Gallman and the uh and the other ones, you know, 929 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: they had sort of a tough game there, right, that 930 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Them guys are gonna have the show. 931 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think we put out as much. 932 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: Uh we're we were trying to run the ball as 933 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: much as uh passing it. It seemed. Uh, So we're 934 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: gonna have some It's gonna be funny if if they 935 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: keep going like that. I said yesterday to progress these 936 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: our backup quarterbacks are making Kim, we'll let us still 937 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: go on on the practice squad. Who's that Yeah, he's 938 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: eligible for the practice with Kyle Letty he brought up. Yeah, 939 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: absolutely right. And the other guy, you know he what's 940 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: his name? The other guy that we have here, that Tanny, Yeah, Tanny. 941 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: Tanny's established veteran, right, he showed that. So and really 942 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: somebody with her quarterback, you know, he's gonna be tough 943 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: just to leave go too. Then they may not have 944 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: to worry about that. They could very well keep three quarterbacks. 945 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: Well I don't know about that, you think, so really 946 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: keep three quarterbacks with all the young talent we have 947 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there was young talent on 948 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: the team last year and they kept three quarterbacks. Yeah, 949 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: but this year, if Jones keeps showing what he's showing, 950 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna play him. I would think if something happened 951 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: to Eve. But you're looking at it more from playing time, 952 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: and I think coaches are also looking at it. And 953 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: Pat Shermers brought this up. A good quarterback room, whether 954 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: there's dialogue, there's guys throwing out ideas, breaking down film, 955 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: and I think they value Tanny's presence in that department. 956 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: So that's what I would not overlook when you think 957 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: about how they break down the roster. Well, when it 958 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: comes down to leaving some of some of them good 959 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: players go, you know, I just don't know, because you've 960 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: got to really think of it. Eli has been an 961 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: iron man too. Yeah, I think you know what, Joe. 962 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: It all depends on all the other positions. You know, 963 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: you may be light in the linebacking position or whatever, 964 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 1: and if you can't afford to keep that third quarterback, 965 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to They'll have to just keep two, 966 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, and keep their fingers crossed if an injury 967 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: comes up over the next three preseason game, all bets 968 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: are off. But I mean right now, if Golden Tate 969 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: is suspended, remember he goes on the suspended list, so 970 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: you can still keep six wide receivers. Golden Tate is 971 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: not taking up a spot on the fifty three. So 972 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear how that, you know put 973 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: you in a precarious situation. Well, I'm thinking that, I'm 974 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: thinking about most of our depth. I think next a 975 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of good Town is in the defensive backfield, where 976 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some tough cuts there. If they stay healthy, 977 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, well you usually keep about you know, ten 978 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: defensive backs. So I mean, if they keep ten, which 979 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: I would expect, I think they're gonna be able to 980 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: retain a lot of that depth that you're referring to. 981 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff and I counted, you know, the fourth safeties, 982 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: and then that gives you an opportunity to keep even 983 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: more corners. You gotta have about six. You're gonna have 984 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: three corners to start, right, I mean, just the way 985 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: start back up in each position, that's six plus your four, 986 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: it's ten. So that's why I mean Jenkins, DeAndre Baker, 987 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: Grant Haley. Let's say beast. Three guys of the starters, okay, 988 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: deal Balantine love Okay, So that's three more, that's six 989 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: and then on top of the four safety. So I 990 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: mean that's ten guys right there. Well, yeah, well you 991 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: have the defensive backfield, you have the receivers, you have 992 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the tight end, and the fullback. There's gonna be decisions there, 993 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: and there is every year. The quarterbacks, you know, that's 994 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: where he's playing. The fullback will be on this roster. 995 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: You're you're seeing too much of of him in in 996 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: the offensive. He's playing too much for them to eliminate 997 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: that position. And he looks good does He looks very 998 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: strong and in blocking and catching the ball, you know, 999 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: and the same what's his name from Dallas? What's he's 1000 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: looking strong too. Smith was also a fullback early in 1001 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: his career, so you know that also gives them another 1002 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: option if they wanted to keep a fullback. Rod Smith 1003 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: is capable of playing that position. It's an numbers game, Joe, 1004 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: It's always is it. Really? It's well, it's good to 1005 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: see them all all looking good there, so hopefully our 1006 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: defense can step it up than that. So go Giants, 1007 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. Thanks you appreciate the phone call. 1008 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for waying in. Let's have back to 1009 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: the lines. Let's check in with Len in Maryland. Len, 1010 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: welcome the big Blue kig Off Love. What's happening? Hey, guys? 1011 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: How you doing? Hi? Jeff? Hello? Len? How are you? Ben? Good? Good? 1012 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: Everything's good? UM. I wanted to try to pick up 1013 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: and I won't take too much of your time, I promise, UM, 1014 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: trying to pick up on your conversation just a couple 1015 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: of minutes ago on the transition. Yeah, assuming, assuming Daniel 1016 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: Jones is the guy, and I hope that's correct, because 1017 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: eventually we're gonna have to replace Eli, and I hope 1018 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: we don't have to draft three quarterbacks in order to 1019 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: do that. I hope it's Daniel. It'll make things a 1020 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: lot simpler. UM. I think the real problem it's gonna 1021 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: be the when you do it, where you do it, 1022 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: but why you do it and how you do it 1023 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: with regard to this transition, and that's a that's that's 1024 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: a tough management problem. I mean, we saw what happened 1025 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: the last time as you as you mentioned with coach 1026 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: Ben and bringing in Geno Smith. But this is probably 1027 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: going to be the most over analyzed, and the most 1028 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: emotional change from a from a from a substitute to 1029 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: a starter in the history of the NFL. I mean, 1030 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be world wide news. Guys. I think 1031 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: we all know that. I mean, it's gonna be it's 1032 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: it's really going to be overplayed. But I see those 1033 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: four aspects of it as being the really tough part. 1034 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: When do you do it? Where do you do it? 1035 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: In other words, on the road, at home? Uh, you know, 1036 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: how do you how do you do it? In the 1037 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: middle of a game? Why do you do it? Does 1038 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: Daniel really playing better or we just got to get 1039 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: him on the field. Those are going to be Those 1040 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: are going to be controversial and emotional things. I hope 1041 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: it doesn't take its toll on the season. I think 1042 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: the two guys may be able to handle it. Shows 1043 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 1: an ELI maybe hold. They handle it better than the fans, 1044 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: including myself. I'm gonna be able to handle. You're gonna 1045 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 1: be able to handle You're gonna hear it. You're gonna 1046 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: one the one i'd like, I'm sorry, go ahead, You're 1047 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna hear about this weekend and week out. I mean, 1048 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: ELI is going to have a bad game you know, 1049 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: and then well there goes their sports talk radio Daniel 1050 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: Jones is ready okay, and so you're right, and there's 1051 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: no way to get around the subject. Oh my god. 1052 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: I mean you can see the first question every week 1053 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: to coach Shermer in this press conference post game, who's 1054 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback next Sunday. Well, he's already been asked about 1055 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: it after one preseason series. So if he was asked 1056 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: about it after one treason series, you know what's gonna come. 1057 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: But that it's going to be it's gonna be controversial. 1058 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: Well you get well before before before you mention that, 1059 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: before you go on to the next point. It's gonna 1060 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: be controversial from a media perspective. I can tell you this, 1061 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: It's not going to be controversial in terms of the 1062 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: conversations that go on in the building. See that's the 1063 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: difference Pat Shermer and Dave Gettleman and John Mara said today. 1064 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: It's Pat Shermer's decision when he wants to make a change, 1065 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: who he wants to go to and so forth. Shermer 1066 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: is not going to be listening to sports talk radio 1067 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: to influence when he makes a change. It's gonna be 1068 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: based on XS and oh, so the fans may see 1069 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: it as controversial because of how the media treats the conversation. 1070 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: It's not going to be controversial inside the building. Those 1071 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: are two different things. But I'll let you continue. Okay, Well, 1072 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: let me before I get to the point that was 1073 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna bad. I'd like to respond to what you just said. 1074 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 1: Everyone would like, here's my thought on this. Everyone would 1075 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: like to think that it should always be the coach's decision. Lance, 1076 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe that in this case. Well, there's conversations 1077 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: with multiple parties. He's gonna listen, he's gonna ask permission 1078 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: to do this. Well, I don't know if he's gonna 1079 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: ask permission. I think that there's gonna be dialogue to 1080 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 1: your point land. You know, he's not going to maybe 1081 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: make the decision on an island. John Marrow was even asked, actually, 1082 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: coincidentally you brought that up. He goes, well, you know, 1083 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 1: how are you going to be involved? And John Mara said, 1084 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not necessarily going to be the guy 1085 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: to tell you when to do it. He just said, 1086 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to know before I read about it in 1087 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: the papers that I said, I hope so so yeah, 1088 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: I mean so, yes, we're not naive. Len of course, 1089 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: if if Sherman and Gettleman are gonna make a change 1090 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: like that, they're gonna go to the front office and 1091 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna let them know. But I do believe that 1092 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: Sherman and Gettleman are going to be the leaders of 1093 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: that decision, considering they're evaluating the roster on a daily basis. 1094 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: I believe that mrmara has an idea. But when he'd 1095 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 1: like it to happen, where he'd like it to happen, 1096 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: Now we'd like it to happen, and why he'd like 1097 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: it to happen. Yeah, we we And I don't think 1098 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna I think all of that's 1099 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: going to play a part. It's gonna play part. Let 1100 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: me let me can I get back to the last point. 1101 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: You're running out of time, and I appreciate you keeping 1102 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 1: me on and allowing me to ask this last question. 1103 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: I'd like your opinion on this. When we make the change, 1104 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, when, where, when, whenever it happens, that's the change. 1105 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: There ain't no going back. If Eli comes off the 1106 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: field or doesn't start a game, he never starts again. 1107 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: He never launched again barring injury, barring injury. And I'm 1108 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: not saying that's Elie's decision, but I think when this 1109 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: decision has made, when Daniel Jones goes on that field 1110 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: in a regular season game other than a blowout, no mean, 1111 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, there were always circumstances, but I think you 1112 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: get the idea I'm coming up with here. He's um 1113 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: Eli's never going back in the game. Well, you would 1114 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: think you would think that, you would think that would 1115 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: be the case, other than a blowout. If there's a 1116 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: team that's you know, and they probably this has probably 1117 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: been discussed already with Eli. This is what's gonna happen. 1118 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 1: If the team is we're written we're getting blown out, 1119 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna get the kids and reps. Okay, you're gonna 1120 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: come out. You're gonna go in. That doesn't mean you're 1121 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: not starting next week, right, But once that, if, and 1122 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: this is so speculative, if it ever happens where he's benched, 1123 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: then yeah, you can't go back on your decision. You 1124 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: gotta go forward, and that's in. That would be the 1125 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: day and if you will definitely know that day was 1126 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: the day that the Eli Manning is now No, no 1127 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: longer the starter than the football Giants. Yeah, yeah, no problem. 1128 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: You appreciate the phone call line. Thanks so much for 1129 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: chiming in. Also the logistics of the contract too, I 1130 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: think help lay that scenario out because I mean, he's 1131 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: in the final year of his contract, so it wouldn't 1132 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: be far fetched that if a change is made with 1133 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: injury putting aside and blowout being put aside meeting, it's 1134 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: a legitimate change, a healthy scratch essentially. Then yes, based 1135 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: on the contract, free line Manning and the circumstances around 1136 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: the team, No, it would not stun me if that 1137 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: would be perhaps the end all be all, And ultimately, 1138 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to win football games here, okay, 1139 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: And if if Eli Manning is not doing well and 1140 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: you think that number eight can do better, and then 1141 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: if you put him in, okay, and that that's the decision, 1142 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: you live with it, and you hit the nail on 1143 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: the head. They don't, the coaches don't care what the 1144 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: public opinion is. They don't, Okay, They're gonna do it 1145 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: with the better, the better for the team. And it's 1146 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: all about team. It always has been and it's always 1147 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: going to be about the team and trying to win 1148 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: football games, and the better player will play. Here's a 1149 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: quote that Mara said about Dave Gentleman, and it hits 1150 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: on exactly what you are saying. And this is why 1151 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: I truly believe that the Giants are not worried about 1152 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. Here this is John Marrows 1153 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 1: asked about his confidence in Dave Gentleman, even after all 1154 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: of the changes in the criticism whatever. John Marrows said, quote, 1155 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: I think the best thing for me about Dave is 1156 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: he makes decisions that he feels are in the best 1157 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: interests of the franchise and he doesn't give a damn 1158 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: what people think about it. End quote. Well, that's Dave Gentleman. 1159 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 1: He basically is telling He tells you that all the time. 1160 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't sugarcoat it, you know, even when he's speaking 1161 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: to the media. So that's why for those of you 1162 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: that think that they're reading the newspapers and listening to 1163 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: sports talk radio and feeling the pressure, Okay, we better 1164 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: make a move because this is what the public is 1165 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: calling for. Dave Gentleman is not that guy. I mean, 1166 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: think about it. Dave Gentleman has made tough decisions Jeff 1167 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: when he was in Carolina and guys like Steve Smith 1168 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about will liked players, he moved on from them. 1169 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: Josh Norman, Josh, he's willing to make those tough decisions, 1170 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: whether it is publicly you know, pats him on the back, 1171 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: or it goes to the opposite extreme. He's just not 1172 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: worried about that. And you know what, you need a 1173 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: guy like that to run an organization, especially in this situation. 1174 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, and this is the guy's trying to build 1175 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: a roster. So he's not worried about what people are 1176 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: going to think because you know, he doesn't have time 1177 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: to think about that. He has time about he's got 1178 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: a short period of time, these guys to build a 1179 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: football team, which usually takes two or three years to do, 1180 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: and he's in his second year. It doesn't have time 1181 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: to think about what you or I think about this. 1182 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't really care about it. Now. This will be 1183 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: a huge decision if it's ever has to be made, 1184 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: but trust me, it will be one this well thought 1185 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: out and then once it's made, that's it closed the book, 1186 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: The chapter is over, and you move on. That's how 1187 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: they look at it. Everybody tries to make it so 1188 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: difficult and this this will be a difficult transition. But 1189 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: from from a from an organizational standpoint, they're not going 1190 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: to make it that. I said this the beginning. The 1191 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be able to make the decision 1192 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: for you is number ten. That's it. If he doesn't 1193 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: play well, he's made the decision for you, So he's 1194 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: exactly okay. And the other one is the team. If 1195 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: the team is oh and seven and Eli is playing 1196 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: halfway decent, they're not going to keep Eli Manning in there, 1197 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: at least I don't think they would right well, because 1198 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: the circumstances of the season have drest ly changed. I 1199 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: think it also depends on what the division looks like, 1200 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: and if you're still on the hunt, and we've had 1201 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: years where everybody's below five hundred jeffs, so that may 1202 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: change things. That's why you can't look at record alone 1203 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,479 Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, if the team struggles, well, what's 1204 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the division look like. You know, these coaches, 1205 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 1: as long as it's a mathematical chance, they're not going 1206 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: to give up. You are going to do what you 1207 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: can to keep winning and trying to because you never 1208 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: know what happens in this league. Guys get hurt, Teams 1209 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: tank all of a sudden. The next thing you know, 1210 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: they lose seven a row and you win seven in 1211 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: a row. You never know what's gonna happen. But keep 1212 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: this in mind. The bottom line is who gives you 1213 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: the best chance to win? That's all you have to remember. 1214 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: Who gives me the best chance to win is at 1215 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: eight or ten or Tanny whatever number he is. Three there, 1216 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: we've covered everybody. Kyle led his seventeen. By the way, 1217 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: for those of you who can't to get home. Now 1218 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: we move on to the final individual on this program. 1219 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of people that we wish, we ran out of 1220 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: time for. Charlie importantly met Charlie. Hey, guys, all right, 1221 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: Charlie sounds good. Hey Jeff, what what you said is 1222 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: not true? And I'll give you one examp. Here we go, 1223 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: Eric Floud. It was not the best player to put 1224 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: at tackle. They thought he was. It was Jaruary Sing 1225 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: because he was first round pick. Okay, that's why he was. 1226 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I will give you some of that. I will give 1227 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: you someone will give him anything. Jet, I'll give you 1228 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: give you a little bit about saving somebody's butt. Yeah, 1229 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and where have you been? And hold on a second, whoa, whoa, whoa? 1230 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me let me go back to this. Okay, 1231 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: who was better than Eric? Flower's left tacked to you 1232 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: to ask that question. That's a bad answer. That's a 1233 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: terrible answer, Charlie. They had guys on the team that 1234 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: would better than also name the player. Then I can't remember. 1235 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I'll convenient. So you make the bold statement and you 1236 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: don't back it up. Stunning developments here on Big Blue 1237 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Kick Off Live. We haven't heard this before three years Land. 1238 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I was totally right on this guy. He was a 1239 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: bust and you all know it. And you can't say 1240 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: we're going to put the best player in. No, that's 1241 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. He might not be the best quarterback, 1242 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: but they'll put him in anyway because they want to 1243 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: see what he can do because he was a first 1244 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: round pick, number six. It's got nothing to do with 1245 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: the best player. You are so the time, but not 1246 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: all the time. All right, Okay, And I just want 1247 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: to say something on Jeff Behalf. So he fought you 1248 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,919 Speaker 1: first and now he wants to say something. This phone 1249 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: call is fascinating to better punter than Ray Guy because 1250 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: of where Jeff punted and where Ray Guy punted. Gray 1251 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Guy punted in Oakland, played the Chargers, I mean San Diego, 1252 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: he played butting and kicked the ball a million miles. 1253 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: And Jeff played in in New England and he played 1254 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,439 Speaker 1: the Giants. He played in Silly, played in Seattle, which 1255 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: was not a great place. The only place you played 1256 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: that was That's right, beautiful. They're the sacrifices that Jeff 1257 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: had to make. Just like listening to the remainder of 1258 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: this phone call, it's amazing what this man has been 1259 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: through during his career. Charlie, Thank you so much, Charlie, 1260 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: thank you for adding to the program. Is always want 1261 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: me to say this man. You gotta hang up on 1262 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: this guy quick enough. We're gonna start off six and old, 1263 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: and all this chatter is going to be over. Okay, 1264 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm in for that. I'll sign up for that. Anything 1265 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that prevents us from having to listen to him tell 1266 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: us who the best player on the roster is at 1267 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: any position. I'm all four, so uh it is what 1268 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: it is. I just I still can't get over the 1269 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: fact he tries to beat you down over the comment 1270 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 1: about best player. Then he tries to circle around that 1271 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: by campaigning you for the Hall of Fame and telling 1272 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: you all of the circumstances you played through. I'm glad 1273 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: you had confidence in me to come back and ask 1274 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: the question who was better than Derek Flowers and left hople. 1275 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: That is not a back pedaling motion on the part 1276 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: of Charlie and Portly Maine. I don't know what is boy, 1277 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: there was a lot of backpedaling. He'll continue to call 1278 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the program. Oh well, he ever, yes, and we asked 1279 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,479 Speaker 1: him who was better on the roster, but he came 1280 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: through empty headed. He did Oh, I forget, I forgot, 1281 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: I forgot. Well, we'll let him call back tomorrow because 1282 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: we know he's gonna call back anyway. I mean, you know, 1283 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Charlie and Big Kickoff Live is yes, we will be back. 1284 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: So that gives you preparation time. Charlie, I don't even 1285 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: know if that's a good thing. Thanks thanks to prepare. 1286 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. There's no guarantee we're 1287 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: taking his phone call. Okay, we may actually run out 1288 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: of time tomorrow, which we will take. We will, we 1289 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: will absolutely. We actually commend people who are not named 1290 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Charlie in Portland made from calling into the program. With 1291 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 1: that being said, that is going to wrap up today's 1292 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live. But we couldn't have 1293 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: asked for a better way to finish off the program. 1294 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: But thank you all for hanging with us and making 1295 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice. It is presented as always by Corps Light. 1296 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Jeff and I will be back up and running tomorrow 1297 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: at one p m. S during for Jeff feagles'm Lance Meadow. 1298 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday and always stay locked 1299 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: to Giants dot com. I have a going