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How 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: are we feeling here? 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 4: Hi? 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: You guys? 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: How are you feeling? 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I'm great, man, Nothing like a little mediocre football on 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: a Monday night, you know, little mediocre performances all the way. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 6: Defense defense? 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, ye was? It kind of felt like bad. 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 7: Offense, bad offense, but it was still bad offense to me, 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 7: equals good defense. If you had bad offense, it was 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 7: because well maybe for once the side shows, the side 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 7: show Bob's had an opportunity to to steal the show 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 7: from you. Spoiled ass pamper brats on the offense side 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 7: of the ball threw five picks. It wasn't good. 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's that's called defense. It's called defense. 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: There's there's times where there's good defense. 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 8: You know, when you recognize, like, all right, that was 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 8: a good play, I made a good stop at all 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 8: that that. 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 5: Was not that last night was bad offensive football. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 7: Your opinion. My opinion is it was a great great defense. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 7: Defense prevailed last night over the snobs. And you know 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 7: what I'm going to stick with that. My man Jai 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 7: Air got got into the action. He got his hands 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 7: on a ball, you know. 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 6: For him. 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, ye, shots out the Jaiyir Brown baby who played 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 7: some defense, defense, baby defense. 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah you want to hear. Kyle Shanahan afterwards talked about 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: the interceptions thrown by Brock Purty because he was serving 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: him up last night, and he gave his opinion defense 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: from last night just. 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: Had three throws. He'd love to take back. 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 9: There are all three good decisions, just a hair laid 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 9: on them. And when you're a hair laid on stuff, 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 9: you can't throw behind him. And he threw it behind him, 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 9: and all three guys made him pay. There's no narrative 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 9: to the late throw. You're just a little late. And 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 9: when you do, which people related a lot, you just 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 9: can't throw behind him when you are. You had to 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 9: put it in front of him, and he had a 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 9: little behind him on all three and all three of 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 9: those corners. 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: Made him pay. 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 9: You got to think about all of them, why it's happening. 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 9: You know, it makes me a lot more hesitant if 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 9: they're all bad decisions and stuff. But he was seeing 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 9: it right. They're all really good decisions. You just missed 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 9: the throw on them. So you know, I think it's 67 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 9: it's a lot worse when you feel like he's not 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 9: making the right. 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Decisions missing throws. You know, there you go, Yeah, it. 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: Sounds a good offensive football and missing throws. 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 6: There's a lot of truth. 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 7: So funny, you know, there there could be truth to 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 7: to what he's saying. But he also gave credit to 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 7: the corners in the secondary making. 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, except the gift, what I got right in their 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 8: bread basket, right right. The reality is, I mean there's 77 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 8: a timing element of most offenses, and when you are late, 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 8: like you just the one spot you can't throw is 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 8: you can't like especially outbreaking routes, you can't put it 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 8: behind him if you put it behind because think about it, 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 8: every defensive player is reactionary. You know, they're reacting in 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 8: particular dbs to what the route that's being run by 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 8: the wide receiver. So you put it, you're basically throwing 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 8: it to a spot where the receiver was now where 85 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 8: the dB is, and that's you know again, it's a 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 8: recipe for disaster. I thought, pretty last night, he just 87 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 8: seemed like he was still out of sync, out of rhythm. 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 8: Like watching him last night, I thought, I didn't think 89 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 8: when he initially came back, the time off hurt him. 90 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 8: Last night, I thought the time off hurt him. 91 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought George Kittle looked good. I say that, 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 7: I mean he he did pretty good. I mean c 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 7: Mac looked Okay, you know, it wasn't a you know, 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 7: it wasn't a great, great, great day, but I mean 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 7: he looked pretty good and he was effective. 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 5: One hundred and forty scrimmage yards. 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, well he didn't break a hundred Russian though. I 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 7: mean yeah, overall, yeah, totally led the way without him, 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 7: They're nothing. 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: All. 101 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was okay, it's okay. Effort, it's okay. I'm 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 7: not going to give it a great day. It was, 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: it was good, it was a good day. It was productive. Uh, 104 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 7: but Carolina just has no offense. Like their offense is very, 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 7: very anemic, And you don't have to have a great 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 7: day out there if Carolina's offense is going to be 107 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 7: so inept at what it is that they're doing. And 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 7: I think that that was to me the bigger story 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 7: of the day or of the evening is against a 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 7: depleted San Francisco defense, Carolina's offense couldn't give you more 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 7: than what it was that they could give you in 112 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 7: that game. And granted they were on the road, I 113 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 7: get that, but I thought that was pretty telling. Even 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 7: though we've seen in you know, weeks past, Carolina can 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 7: be a competitive team. They can be a team that 116 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 7: can get after it and win win games. They play 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 7: pretty good defense. They gave their team an opportunity to 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 7: on offense give them more to try to win the game. 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 7: And that's not what happened. And I felt like that 120 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 7: was more of the storyline here, you know, is that Carolina, 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 7: how do you not have more to offer in a 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 7: game like that where you have two future Hall of 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 7: famers out in Bosa and Warner? How does that happen? 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 7: Like to me, I felt like that was the bigger question. 125 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: Been kind of Bryce Young's struggles that have I guess 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: people are gonna point to the most. I mean, Timac 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: had some drops that didn't look you know, that wasn't 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: a great performance by him. And I kind of felt 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: bad for Carolina in that spot because I don't remember 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: the last time they've been featured on a Monday night 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: game where there were some positive vibes around the organization 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: that they had kind of turned the corner, and then 133 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: you come out and it was just lackluster. It just 134 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: seemed like and for those of you that had Carolina 135 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: plus seven and a half, apologies. You know, they gave 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of a go there after the McMillan touchdown, 137 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: but unfortunately come up short on that missfield goal by 138 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: a wide margin. And next thing you know, you're staring 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: up at Tampa Bay still leading that division, even though 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay is really as well too, So it's just 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: your typical NFC South performance. 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 8: It felt like for me, well, they also have been 143 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 8: riding this wave almost the entire season. I mean, go 144 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 8: through the last I don't know what's six weeks. 145 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 5: It's a win loss, win, lass wind Law. 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 8: I mean, that's just how they've been playing offensively, though, 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 8: I think you look at their passing attack. I've said 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 8: this when I did the broadcast. I'll say this now 149 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 8: every time I watch them, there's just nothing else besides 150 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 8: Teneroa McMillan. When they're not running the football, they just 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 8: they don't have anything else they can lean on. 152 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 5: And it's it's tough when. 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 8: You were an offense and you're trying to draw things 154 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 8: up for guys because it is a game of playmakers, 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 8: and if you don't have a bunch of those playmakers. 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 8: I mean, Jalen Coker is starting to emerge as one 157 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 8: of their other guys that they're kind of trying to 158 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 8: lean on. Right now, can you tell me where he's from? 159 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: LeVar? 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 8: Do you know Jalen Coker's backstory? Like most people don't. 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 8: Most people have no idea like where he came from? 162 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 8: He's a Holy Cross kid from Holy Cross, So like 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 8: you look at that and you go all right, like 164 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 8: this is this is just gonna be tough to be 165 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 8: able to get this offense going. I just that's that's 166 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 8: my biggest issue is when when everyone wants to be 167 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 8: critical of. 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: Bryce Young and what he is and what he isn't 169 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: like I go back and say, well, he's got the capability, Like. 170 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 8: You see the touchdown throw to Tederoe McMillan and you go, Okay, 171 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 8: he can push the ball downfield. 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 5: They just don't have any when they've been able to 173 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: get going. 174 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 8: To stretch the field, like Jimmy Horn Junior's got it 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 8: on a speed, they just haven't. 176 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: Been able to get him in the you know, in 177 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: the offense as much. 178 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 8: So to me, like I'm a little bit of a 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 8: loss because I don't know how you change it outside 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 8: of continuing to build out around him to give him more. 181 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: Of bringing Jimmy Horne Junior along. 182 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 8: But like Xavier Legatt has not become this splip to 183 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 8: the player they thought he was going to become. 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: You know, I thought, right now. 185 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 8: They would think they have two big, physical, number one 186 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 8: wide receivers and unfortunately right now. Tedron mcmonillan as a 187 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 8: rookie is the only one who's really kind of emerged 188 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 8: as that guy. 189 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: If you put Bryce Young in the Shannhan system, if 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: you swapped quarterbacks, what sort of results are we looking like? 191 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: Like I said, how much of a difference would there 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: be between Brockberty and Bryce Young. 193 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 8: I don't know if there's a huge difference either way. 194 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 8: It's not like pretty slight, light the world on fire. 195 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 8: You know, they're in a very similar situation. You know, 196 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 8: outside of mcaffe you're doing everything you can get the 197 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,359 Speaker 8: ball to, Like who scares you a receiver for them, 198 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 8: Like Kill obviously is a really impactful tight end. But 199 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 8: Juwan Jennings, I mean he's taking nuts shots last night 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 8: with Kan Moore. 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 6: Yeah he did. 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 8: You know Ricky Pearce all is a first round pick 203 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 8: that's still trying to become that. But like you go 204 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 8: through both rosters and you see why it's a low scoring, 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 8: quote unquote defensive game. Neither of these offenses have much 206 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 8: of a second act besides let's try to run the football. 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 8: Let's get the football tour running back, and we've got 208 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 8: some compliment. He plays off of that to Juwan Jennings. 209 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 5: Te Aron McMillan, or name your other piece in the offense. Yeah, 210 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: but that's really like what they are. 211 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: And the Brandon Ayuk contract has been a disaster and 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: now they're you know, they're gonna avoid his guarantees for 213 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: next year and they're just gonna cut ties with him. 214 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: So whatever the hell that was, and that decision to 215 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: give him that money, he got hurt early on in 216 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: the contract. Apparently he's not showing up to team meetings 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: and missing a bunch of stuff. They expected him back 218 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: on the field by now, and so we're just gonna 219 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: up and vanish like a fart in the wind when 220 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: it comes to his time with the Niners. So it's 221 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: fun stuff for the Niners passing attack. You mentioned the 222 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: nut shot, by the way, Juwan Jennings responding to that 223 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: nut shot that he received by Trayvon Marrek. Kyle Shanahan 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: talked about how proud he was of Juwan Jennings waiting 225 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: until after the game in order to respond would have. 226 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: Him to Juan in the last series. 227 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, the guy took a cheap shot and hit him 228 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 9: in the balls. And he's a real proud of Juwan 229 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 9: for now losing his mind out there and get him 230 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 9: to the sideline. 231 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: So we've got a jamar Chase spitting on guys. We 232 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: got guys taking nutshots. What's going on? We just at 233 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: that time of the year, tell. 234 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 8: Me what's happening, var because I'm sure you either got 235 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 8: hit the nuts or you hit some of the nuts. 236 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: Well of told I've never done like anything like that. 237 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 7: Told you it's more palle up driven with me. 238 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 10: This would be a great would you rather? 239 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 7: Would you rather get spit on or nutshot? I'd take 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 7: the nut shot, and I don't. I don't want to 241 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 7: get spit on. 242 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 8: But no, it's so painful that for that short amount 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 8: of time, that's it is experience. 244 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: But I think the feeling of getting sped on. 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: I'll be honest. I'll be honest. 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 8: I worked for both. Mark was talking last Saturday on 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 8: our show. He was, you know, doing a spiel whatever 248 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 8: he was talking about, and at one point I was 249 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 8: like a lot of boys shot, Okay, I feel like 250 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 8: I just got to spit on. 251 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: You know. I didn't say anything to react to it. 252 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 5: I had to just stand strong through it. But he had. 253 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, it. 254 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 7: Feels so and that wasn't even a hawk two week 255 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: that was just probably exactly talking and the spit from 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 7: his mom saying the words that he was sample. 257 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 8: Exactly right. And I was thinking if I felt it, 258 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 8: he was probably like big enough for maybe you could 259 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 8: caught on camera. Yeah, So then I'm like, I like, 260 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 8: do I react to I not react? I just gotta 261 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 8: not react, right, I mean, how do the sunlight it 262 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 8: hit at the right angle, probably could look like a. 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm proud of you for not reacting, But I 264 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 7: got to tell you, by the time you were able 265 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 7: to get to it and wipe to it, you had 266 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 7: already absorbed it. 267 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 6: Isn't that disgusting? 268 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 7: Like I'm just I'm just telling you, I'd rather get 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 7: nutshot than get spat on, like and even a casual 270 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 7: I'm talking, and the spit is hitting the in the face. 271 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 7: It's just it's not okay. It is not sanitary. It's 272 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 7: either okay. Yeah, but you're not going to catch nothing 273 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 7: from from getting punched in the balls. Like there's there's 274 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 7: the possibility you could get a growth. You could get 275 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 7: a growth on your face, you know what I mean, Like, 276 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 7: you don't know what his mouths been doing. 277 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. Yeah, growth. 278 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: Wait, so you think you think a little spit in 279 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: the midst of a conversation would result in some sort 280 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: of a growth. 281 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 7: You just never know, man, I don't. I don't put 282 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 7: anything past anything or anyone. I mean, what sort of 283 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 7: bodily fluids? 284 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: Man, I don't know. 285 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes, we got like gremlin saliva, like they just sort 286 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: of multi br and. 287 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 7: You just you just never know. Don't act like it 288 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: can't happen. It's always it couldn't happen until it happens. 289 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 6: And if it were me. 290 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 7: I would have wipe my face off and been like, hey, Mark, 291 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 7: say it player. I want the news and not the 292 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 7: weather today to day for precipitation. 293 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: Bruh. 294 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: You can't interrupt someone like that in the middle of it. 295 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: But I get to understand. My thing is, oh gosh, okay. 296 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: Here's the other part of the question is what's your reaction? 297 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 8: Are you more apt to fight in both circumstances, because 298 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 8: after a nutshot, if it's really good, you're probably down 299 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 8: for a little bit. 300 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so your immedia reaction can't really be to fight 301 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: someone like as much as. 302 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan wanted to be like, oh you know, I'm 303 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 8: glad he lose his mind out there. It's like, dude, 304 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 8: you hit the nuts. It's a good thirties. 305 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 6: Yeah second pause youa yeah. 306 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 5: You're not gonna You're not gonna do anything anyway. 307 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 6: You know it's gonna pause you. I gotta say. 308 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 7: Even the approach after the game was kind of feeble though. 309 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 7: You know, don't work, you know, don't don't don't wait 310 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 7: to work if the work is going to look like 311 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 7: that when you get to going, like like, you got 312 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: to get after it. 313 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 6: You got to make that man pay for what. 314 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 7: It is that he did and what it it didn't 315 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 7: like didn look like that looked like he got a 316 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 7: hold of dude. 317 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: Dude was like, man, get out of here. I ain't 318 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 6: doing nothing. 319 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 7: And then his teammate, you know, yokes yokes him up 320 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 7: and like pushes him off and like looks at him like, hey, man, 321 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 7: don't bring that over here. You get slapped out doing 322 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 7: stuff like that around here around these parts, you know 323 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: what I mean, Like you can't be an aggressive of 324 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 7: getting a nut shot and then you get punked to 325 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 7: top of it, like no, that can't be it. You 326 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: got to you got to do some Andre Johnson type 327 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 7: action on your boy in the secondary start dropping bombs. 328 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 7: Don't go up there like that man to all y'all 329 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 7: out there. I don't condone balance, I don't condone fighting. 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 7: But if you are meeting somebody after the game for 331 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 7: something that they did to this level of this capacity, 332 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 7: like spitting on you or punching you in your nuts. 333 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 6: You make it count. 334 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 7: Don't don't get a second al Don't don't take that 335 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 7: second al man for the sake of trying to redeem 336 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 7: the first one. 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Say, 345 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 5: I mean they're an eight and four knowing the way 346 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 5: to be a playoff team. 347 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 6: Fools go good. 348 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: Good record though some categories the Jags, we're good. 349 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 6: It's a good record though. 350 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 8: If you look at their schedule the rest of the way, 351 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 8: they are getting at least two more wins. 352 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: They're gonna get the ten they've got. 353 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 8: They're playing in Cleveland, Tennessee at Indy Chicago. 354 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 7: It ain't gonna be an easy win now that Shador 355 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: Sanders is out there. 356 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: Oh hell yeah, play the music right now, that's. 357 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 7: Right, hey man, though they'll use Cleveland as a punchline 358 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 7: these days. 359 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 6: Man, you know, is that up out of the garage 360 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 6: now playoff? Yeah? 361 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 5: He only needed one week of practice. 362 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 6: Getting that work. What's your door? Perfect time? It's a 363 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 6: perfect timing, y'all. 364 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, really are gonna be Yeah, that's unfortunate. 365 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: I mean they're gonna be the ten wins. 366 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 6: I know that. 367 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is unfortunate. 368 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 5: Take any two of their next five. That's they're gonna 369 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 5: win two more. They get the ten and ten and seven. 370 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 5: I think that gets them in. 371 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: Right Yeah, yeah, I mean, well they listen, we'll get 372 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: to see brock Purty. 373 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 6: And uh their fools more more. 374 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: Mediocre play in the postseason. 375 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 6: Apparently, don't bet on that. 376 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 7: Stop sell that stock, sell that stock. 377 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 378 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: The Niners are a minus seven hundred on DraftKings to 379 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: make the playoffs, so just go ahead and slot them 380 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: in now. Yeah, it's you. 381 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 7: Will make the playoffs. 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Sorry, he's too classy. 452 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: For a dive bar bellied up middle of the day. 453 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 7: They'll play this in a hood ratchet spot. I mean 454 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 7: it just just to do how you take it? Really, Yeah, it's. 455 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: Remix just this this song, just like this. 456 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 6: Go to be remix. 457 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: Wa. 458 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 7: I don't know, yeah, no, no, no hood y. 459 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 460 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: I didn't call it a hood ratchet place. 461 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 6: I mean it could be a ratchet. 462 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 7: You could be in a strict club and when it's 463 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 7: time to get out, you don't don't have to go home, 464 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 7: but you got to get the hell out of here. 465 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 6: They'll pay. They'll play that. 466 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 8: This song that was never our closing song though, or 467 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 8: like last call song. 468 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, this one was this one? Was it? Like the 469 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: lights go all for you guys, time to go? I mean, 470 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: we put it on. So let me know because I'm 471 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 6: going right back to sleep. I gotta go late, right 472 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 6: on back down in the bed, you know. Let me know. 473 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: There's a Bennett studio. 474 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 6: It's a little cool in here. Yeah man, hell yeah, 475 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 6: yeah man. 476 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here 477 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. So we're going to uh check 478 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: the rolex coming up a little over ten minutes from now. 479 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: A lot of different directions we could have went in 480 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: with that. 481 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: Before we get to that and. 482 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 7: After they're registered and sunk in, we could have we 483 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 7: could have went in a lot of different direct We 484 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 7: could have had a little fun with that one. 485 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 6: But it might be too soon. 486 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: Before we get to uh, I know what you're saying. 487 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: I agree. Before we get to another edition of In 488 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: Case you missed It, we'll let you know. 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The crown is yours. 494 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 495 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 4: sports or entertainment. 496 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 5: Good thing. 497 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: The guys are here to bring you in case you 498 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: missed it. 499 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, 500 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: the one and only Shay Mogan Guard Shay. 501 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 6: What up? 502 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 5: What up? 503 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 6: Guys? What up? Thanks for having me. Happy Thanksgiving weeks 504 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: to be here with you, guys. 505 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 12: I'll be here tomorrow too, so we'll have some fun 506 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 12: the next two days. Hello, Loraina. I feel like I 507 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 12: never say hi tole Lorraina on the air. 508 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: No one does Hi, Lorena. 509 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 12: Let's get right into this, guys. 510 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 6: Than the music. This is music the man. 511 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 12: You guys were talking about this a little bit earlier. 512 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 12: Jamar Chase addresses his sp heading allegations on Instagram. Quote 513 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 12: to my team, fans, the Bengals organization, the Steelers organization, 514 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 12: and the NFL community. You guys please know I'm speaking 515 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 12: from my heart when I say I take full responsibility 516 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 12: for my actions during last Sunday's game of Pittsburgh. What 517 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 12: I did was wrong. The circumstances don't matter. My passion 518 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 12: for the game is no excuse. There's zero place in 519 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 12: our sport or in our life for that level of disrespect. 520 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 12: I want to personally apologize to everyone within the Pittsburgh 521 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 12: Steelers organization. I let my motions in the moment get 522 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 12: the better of me. I can only hope and trust 523 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 12: you know none of it represents who I am not 524 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 12: as a competitor, teammate, or person. He goes on to 525 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 12: apologize to his coach's teammates everyone else. He says it's 526 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 12: a tough season, incredibly hard losses, and he's been frustrated. 527 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 12: Finally he apologizes to his fans and he committed to 528 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 12: earning back your respect. 529 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: Guys, was this enough? 530 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 6: I mean he didn't he deny it at first? 531 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah he did. 532 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: I kind of feel like I. 533 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 6: Already to know. Yeah, I'm over it. 534 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 7: I could care less about his apology if he would have, 535 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: if he would have stood on business to begin with, Like, bro, 536 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 7: know this, when you do stuff like that, don't deny it. 537 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 7: Because the camera angles and technology is so advanced, is 538 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 7: so good, Bro, they can see the sweat coming down 539 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 7: your face, let alone coming out of your mouth and 540 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 7: going on to somebody else. Like, if he would have 541 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 7: owned it from the jump and listen, you get an 542 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 7: opportunity to repent, Like, all right, I see the wrong 543 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 7: in what I did. I just felt like the way 544 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 7: he kind of addressed it to begin with, I didn't. 545 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 7: You know, I don't know how sincere that that apology is. 546 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: I'd almost have more respect for him if you said, yeah, 547 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sorry, I did it. It's been a bad season. 548 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: I'm frustrated we can't figure. Yeah, I hate the Steelers 549 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: and Ramsey's taking cheap shots all the time, and if 550 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 3: I if I need to get some retaliation in, I'm 551 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: going to get it in. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna 552 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: apologize for it. I almost would have respected that more. 553 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: That was a little too. 554 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 7: Get I'm going get mad. Yeah, you know, Yeah, I'm 555 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 7: with you, Jonah, Yeah, with jawing. 556 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: Oh what else you gut Shay? 557 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 12: In other news, this could be good news. Most people 558 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 12: say it would be. We're staying with the Bengals. Joe 559 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 12: Burrow is expected to return. Zach Taylor said he it's 560 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 12: looking good for the quarterback, although Jovih Flacco has been 561 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 12: doing a great job. Joe Burrow is set to probably 562 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 12: start this weekend. 563 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 6: How do you guys feel? 564 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: What about Trey Hendrickson? Trey Hendrickson going to be back 565 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 3: at any point or still dealing with a hip issue. 566 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: Bengals are a seven point underdog at Baltimore coming up 567 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Night. 568 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 8: So I'm tell you by the way, Flacco thrown for 569 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 8: over two hundred and seventy yards a game. 570 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 5: He's got thirteen touchdowns to four interceptions on the season. 571 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: He's played as. 572 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 8: Well as you could imagine for someone who literally got 573 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 8: traded there during the season. 574 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's been pretty darn phenomenal. 575 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 8: How about this taking less sacks, you know, and then 576 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 8: Burrow does when he's in there, so he's played at 577 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 8: a high level. Their offense has not been the issue. 578 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 8: This is a defensive issue for the Pangos this year. 579 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna get fixed anytime soon. 580 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 6: What you got, var, I got nothing. 581 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 582 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 583 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 584 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 585 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, yeah, jeh oh, come on, Jill back the. 586 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: One in Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox 587 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: Sports Radios, LeVar Arrington, He's Brady Quinn, I'm Jonas Knoxy. 588 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: You can find this on its affiliates all across the 589 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: country in on the iHeartRadio app. And we appreciate you 590 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: making us a part of your Tuesday morning as we 591 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: take you all the way up until nine am Eastern time, 592 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: six o'clock Pacific, and by the way, brought to you 593 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: by the Home Depot. 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I'm 604 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 7: gonna just let it breathe. 605 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 606 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 6: So, yeah, welcome tour two man. 607 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: Well you mentioned it earlier. 608 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: It's big news. 609 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: His big news. Kevin Stefanski to the Cleveland take it Away. 610 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Who's going to be your starter this weekend? Come on, cav. 611 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 6: Hey, do I want to tell you? Yeah? 612 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: He's going to Uh, hey, I don't want to tell you. 613 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: We are we are efforting. 614 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 6: Are you sure we're connecting? Has he come to the 615 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 6: podium yet? 616 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: We're connecting? We're connecting here he is, coach. He is 617 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: so nervous about the announcement your door will start this week. 618 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: Number one job of quarterback is to win. So excited 619 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: to get that first win under his belt. And then 620 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: next thing is improvement and that's what young players do, 621 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: certainly young quarterbacks. Do you get one game better and 622 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: that's just from working at it. So that'll be our focus. 623 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: Check your risk, player, check your risk. 624 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: What did they say? 625 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: Didn't they say Buddy Dylan would be the starter when 626 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 7: he got cleared and came back. It just wasn't best 627 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 7: timing for Dylan the time in for your door. It's 628 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 7: it's time. 629 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: It's eleven for twenty against the Raiders. When ain't got 630 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: that new Ohio State. 631 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: You get a touchdown pass on a stream. 632 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 6: Hell yeah, y'all say what y'all want? 633 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 7: Let him get this when let him get this dubbed 634 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 7: this week when they put him back in? Yeah, that 635 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 7: perfect timing the door Sanders there, baby Stefanski going save 636 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 7: it's job? 637 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: Who Stefanski? Chador? Baby? Let's go Miles Garrett, you gotta 638 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 6: you gotta deepense. Did you see Miles Garrett's face drop 639 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: to the floor, which. 640 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 5: We act the reaction off the floor. 641 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 6: I believe. I'm a believer. It's perfect timon. 642 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: Are you guys surprised? 643 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 10: I really do this bitch, are you Are. 644 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: You surprised that that Shador stay as the starter? I'm not. 645 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: At this point, what do you have to lose? 646 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've seen enough of Dylan Gabriel to have an idea. 647 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 8: You want to see more from Shador and you know, 648 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 8: Sue he looks like and it's one way or another, 649 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 8: either to prove him right or to prove him wrong 650 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 8: with all the crap he's been saying. 651 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: But either way, like, this is to. 652 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 8: Me more about finding out what you have in your 653 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 8: roster as you're a team that's looking for to twenty 654 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 8: twenty six. 655 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like it's self preservation time. When you're 656 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 7: a team like the Cleveland Browns, everybody has to go 657 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 7: into self preservation mode. 658 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: It just is what it is. I mean, that's what 659 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 6: all the bad teams do. 660 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 7: And there's no exception here for anyone that's involved in 661 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 7: this scenario, and self preservation says, you have to play 662 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 7: Shador Sanders in this scenario for the simple fact that 663 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 7: if he does continue to find a way to win, 664 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 7: then the self preservation, again for the coaching staff, becomes 665 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 7: more legitimized. I think I think Kevin Stefanski's job hangs 666 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 7: in the balance of if the timing is perfect for 667 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 7: Shador Sanders to be playing as the starting quarterback for this. 668 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: Team, you think Kevin Stefanski's using to save his job. 669 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 7: Using is a strong way, that wouldn't be the right way. 670 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 6: That's how you put positioning it. Not using. 671 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 7: I look at it as Shador Sanders' success could legitimize 672 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: him maintaining his job. 673 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 6: Not using him. 674 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I guess if you're going to say he's 675 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 7: playing him, but I don't think he he didn't put 676 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 7: him in and bench Dylan Gabriel. To me, using him, 677 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 7: is you benched Dylan. You put Shador in because you're 678 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 7: trying to save your job. Shador went in because of 679 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 7: an injury, and Shador didn't win that game, but came 680 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 7: back and played out of necessity and won the game 681 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 7: that he played out of necessity due to injury. Now 682 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 7: that the injury is cleared and he's continuing on with Shador, 683 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 7: that says to me, that's a signal that it's self preservation. 684 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 7: If you can get on a winning streak down this stretch, 685 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 7: you could save your job. If you believe that Shador 686 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 7: Sanders is the way to get to that preservation of 687 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 7: your job. That's why you're playing Shador Sanders. Otherwise you 688 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 7: would be playing Dylan Gabriel. If you felt Dylan Gabriel, 689 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 7: what's that player to preserve your job, Dylan Gabriel would 690 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 7: have been named back as the starter now that he 691 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 7: was cleared from concussion protocol self preservation. So if you 692 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 7: want to call it using Shador, I don't see it 693 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 7: as using Shador. I feel like Shador gave them a 694 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 7: spark and gave them a little bit of excitement. You 695 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 7: saw the hope, the way they kind of positioned it 696 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 7: with the way they showed the content of the games. 697 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's for the media though, Like, yeah, no one 698 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 8: gives it. No one gives a crap in the locker 699 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 8: room unless they're helping him win, you know, and he 700 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 8: made enough. 701 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 6: But what yeah, he's helping them win. 702 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 5: Me he wouldn't. 703 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 8: He did good end of this past game to win. 704 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 8: If you look into the stats and analytics, there's a 705 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 8: lot of skepticism because he's the fifth lowest graded quarterback 706 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 8: of the entire. 707 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 5: Season off of what he's done so far. 708 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 6: Damn. 709 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: Now, that doesn't mean that he won't get better. 710 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 8: You know, when you look at that list of players 711 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 8: Quinn you or as Jelen Milroe, guys who are also rookies, 712 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 8: Riley Leonard Notre Dame like the also rookies, short small 713 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 8: sample size, So as he plays, I assume he will 714 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 8: get better. But let's let's not overreact too much to it. 715 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 8: But I do think it's it's good for the Browns 716 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 8: to see what they have in him. They drafted him. 717 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 8: Let the guy play, you know, see what you've got. 718 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 8: He made some nice plays, buying time, getting outside the 719 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 8: pocket to make big throws down the field. And I 720 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 8: thought their coaching staff, contrary to what social media will 721 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 8: tell you out there, set him up to succeed. If 722 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 8: you watched the film, you would see that for the 723 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 8: most part, it was either screens to get the ball 724 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 8: out of his hand quick or they use seven man 725 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 8: protections where they didn't have to worry too much about 726 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 8: trying to worry about him figuring out the protection everything else. 727 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 8: Block them all up, let him take chunks and shots downfield, 728 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 8: and if it's not there, dumb it down. 729 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 5: He can do those sorts of things. So I thought 730 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 5: their coaching. 731 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 8: Staff did a good job too, kind of playing to 732 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 8: things that would help protect him but also give him 733 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 8: a chance to succeed, and they were able to do 734 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 8: just that. 735 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 6: More teams should do that. 736 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 7: All these sacks you saw Geno Smith seeing ghosts out there. 737 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 7: More teams should do max protection. I'd rather him have 738 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 7: time to throw it to somebody than no time in 739 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 7: getting sacked for the sake of trying to what like, 740 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 7: release too many guys out into the passing round. 741 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 8: Well, that's the issue is if you got seven guys 742 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 8: in protection and right, you can only have three guys 743 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 8: out in the routes, and so eventually you've got to 744 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 8: allow that running back that's height end or however you 745 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 8: construct it could be two running backs. You have to 746 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 8: allow those guys to release, otherwise they're never gonna have 747 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 8: the impact on the secondary. They need to have to 748 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 8: pull some of those you know, hook curl defenders down 749 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 8: or guys who are responsible for. 750 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 5: The underneath underneath coverage. 751 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 8: So if you can't do that, you might find yourself, 752 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 8: you know, throwing some air and balls or throwing footballs away, 753 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 8: which you also saw a little bit from time to 754 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 8: time too. So again it's it's a little more nuanced conversation. 755 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 8: But I thought they did a good job not giving 756 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 8: them too much that was gonna be too difficult, or 757 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 8: putting him in bad spots, which again was the entire 758 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 8: narrative after he came in off the bench as a backup. 759 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 8: And I feel like I was the only one on 760 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 8: the show outside of you know, maybe Jonas who wanted 761 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 8: to point out that that's the life of a backup 762 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 8: of any position. 763 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 7: So really thought, well, I didn't think he'd ever play, 764 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 7: so I didn't. 765 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 5: Again, you're watch the Browns more. They played four to 766 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 5: five quarterbacks every season. 767 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: But you wanted him cut. 768 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 6: I did not want him cut. Earlier in the summer. 769 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 5: You were actually from cut. 770 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 6: I did not. 771 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 5: You changed your tune, but earlier this summer. 772 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 7: No, No, that's an inaccurate representation of what I said. 773 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 7: I said as a fifth rounder, there would there would. 774 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 7: I would not be surprised if he got cut because 775 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 7: of the they brought in Picket, then they bring in Flacco. 776 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 7: You drafted Dylan Gabriel, and you drafted Shador Sanders. Shador 777 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 7: Sanders being the last one out of all of them. 778 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 7: I thought he might get cut. Was I didn't say 779 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 7: I was calling for him to get cut. 780 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: Was did U did Tyler Huntley also get a get 781 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 3: a cut? I think he was with the Browns for 782 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: like a week and a half. Yeah, there's a lot 783 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 3: of guys there with the. 784 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 7: Brown It was gone by then though, Yeah, but he 785 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 7: was part of the team too, Huntley. Yeah, well I 786 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 7: get that, but I'm saying, but when they brought him in, 787 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 7: Picket was gone by then, right, he was gone about it? 788 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 6: Yes, it was after Yeah. 789 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: It's hard to keep track of. 790 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 7: Which would still tell you that there was no real 791 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 7: confidence possibly and all the guys they had on their roster, 792 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 7: like they were still trying to figure out that they 793 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 7: have to have somebody that could jump in there and 794 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 7: play for. 795 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 6: Them to try to win games. 796 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 7: I don't think there's a ton of confidence in this 797 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 7: quarterback room, if I'm being honest. Now, how that plays 798 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 7: out and what happens, I don't know, but I would 799 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 7: have thought that they would have gave Picket an opportunity. 800 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 7: Flacco beats him out, okay, but I'm not getting rid 801 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 7: of a guy that I brought in that could compete. 802 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 7: If I go with a guy that could compete for 803 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 7: the starting job, with another guy that can compete for 804 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 7: the starting job, I'm not letting both of them go 805 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 7: because those are the guys that I projected and anticipated 806 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 7: to be the starters for my team. We just had 807 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 7: the conversation about JJ McCarthy in in an Hour one, 808 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 7: which you could get on our podcast. 809 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 6: By the way, come to Joe. 810 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 7: Make sure you go wherever it is that you get 811 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 7: your podcasts from search Fox Sports Radio and you can 812 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 7: get a podcaster anyway. 813 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 814 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 7: I mean, there's nothing wrong with giving rookies, especially late 815 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 7: round draft pick rookies, an opportunity to sit and learn. 816 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 6: I have no problem with Shador being on the bench. 817 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 7: I have no problem with Dylan Gabriel being on the 818 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 7: bench getting an opportunity to learn the flow of the game, 819 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 7: the operation of the week, the operation of the game plan, 820 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 7: the dudes that don'ts, all those different things that Jordan 821 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 7: Love had the benefit of being able to get. We 822 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 7: always are often forcing and pressuring these young guys to 823 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 7: be world beaters in a league full of guys that 824 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 7: are there as pros just as well. They're they're pros 825 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 7: to on the other side of the ball, and a 826 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 7: lot of them are are veteran pros. They they understand tendencies, 827 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 7: they understand lineups and and matchups and and and you know, 828 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 7: formations and all kinds of downs and situational football. They 829 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 7: understand that. So to ask a kid, basically a kid 830 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 7: to come in and be able to operate and activate 831 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 7: against these types of units, that's a lot. It's a 832 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 7: daunting task for any of them, whether they have success 833 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 7: or not, it's a daunting task. 834 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: Do you think would it be I don't know if 835 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: this would be, you know, kind of disrespectful, But do 836 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: you think, you know, with as much of a bad 837 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: position as they put shad Or Sanders in throughout his 838 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: entire NFL journey thus far, do you think those wretches. 839 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 6: That's arcaves Well, no, I'm just I want to know. 840 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: Do you think those those wretched sons of bitches at 841 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: the NFL could just skeedule the Raiders every week for 842 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: the Browns? Like at least if they could do that 843 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: much based on all the difficult situations he's been put in, 844 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: I think that would make everybody happy. We're trying, we 845 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 3: want to please everybody. 846 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 6: What's doing right now? 847 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: I just I want him to have a fair ship. 848 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 5: I'm making fun of the situation. It's hilarious, Like people, 849 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: I just it is what it is. 850 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: I just want to see him get the Raiders every week, 851 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: the awful Raiders every single week. So we can you know, 852 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: celebrate that play perfect timing. 853 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, so you don't think he can win this week? 854 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: They got the Niners. 855 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 6: We check the uh the Niners they just played? 856 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 3: Are you sticks picking it? 857 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 7: Are you still. 858 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 3: They're in Cleveland and the Niners are a six point favorite? 859 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? I take take the Browns on this one. 860 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 12: Yeah. 861 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 5: Hold you to that too, hold you to that. 862 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 7: They ain't gonna be able to deal with that defense. 863 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 7: All stra Door gotta do is manage the game. Don't 864 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 7: turn the ball over, manage the game. Let them let 865 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 7: them do time. Yeah, it's perfect time and it's gonna 866 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 7: be a big win, big win for Cleveland. 867 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 5: Hey. 868 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: You know what though, Actually, let me ask you this, Brady, 869 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: do Browns fans give a rip who the quarterback is? Like, 870 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 3: is there's this clamoring for shud Or Sanders over Dylan Gabriel. 871 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 5: No, they just want to win, you know, they're just 872 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 5: excited that they won. 873 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 8: You know, if they win this week, he'll be they'll 874 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 8: be behind them excited if they lose they'll be like, 875 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 8: this guy's a bum. 876 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 5: They want to move on to the next guy. That's 877 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 5: just what it is. 878 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 7: I know what they do care about. They're hots and listening. 879 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 7: Original Louisiana hot sauce. It's got it, simple ingredients, three 880 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 7: of them. Put them all onto your plate. Turns any 881 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 7: Tuesday into a tail Oh yeah, tailgate Tuesday. 882 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, So hey, listen, no. 883 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 7: Matter what day it is, grabbing to reach original Louisiana 884 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 7: hot sauce and add a little game day to every day. 885 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 7: All right, that's a Louisiana hot sauce. Make sure you're 886 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 7: bat you so hey. 887 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: By the way, Shae is a Browns fan. Shaye you were. 888 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 3: You were at the Raiders Browns game. What was the 889 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 3: buzz like for all number twelve out there? 890 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 12: So in its history? Man, yeah, we were excited. No, yeah, 891 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 12: there's a lot of Browns fans. So it was funny 892 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 12: because it seemed like everyone was just kind of like, okay, 893 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 12: We're like, we're okay with each other because we both suck. 894 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 12: So everyone was kind of just like celebrating that. And 895 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 12: then it kind of turned into Browns being too hopeful 896 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 12: and seeing the three touchdowns and like being like, oh 897 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 12: my god, it's the door time. So at the table 898 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 12: is after the game everyone. When I was talking to 899 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 12: it was like, yeah, I'm really feeling excited about this, 900 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 12: and I'm just sitting there. I'm like, dude, forty two 901 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 12: quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine, we were just talking about this, Like, 902 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 12: come on, we've seen this happen all too much before. 903 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 12: Everyone has been great. I'm like RG three was a 904 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 12: starting quarterback at one time for the Browns. Like that's 905 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 12: like it goes back so much to where it's like 906 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 12: there's so many names. Everyone has had hype. It's just 907 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 12: I'm annoyed by it. It's like I was happy to 908 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 12: see a win. Was the first game where I was like, 909 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 12: oh my god, we have the lead. We might actually 910 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 12: win this game. Every other time we've had the lead, 911 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 12: I knew we were going to lose, but no, it 912 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 12: was it was cool. I'm happy for Shador, but I 913 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 12: have I'm not hopeful. 914 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you just want to win games, so it 915 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 3: doesn't matter with the quarterback exactly Ellen Gabriel should doesn't matter. Yeah, 916 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: So all right, Well something to monitor here, the shoot 917 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: or Sanders situation. Hopefully everybody's in a better mood surrounding 918 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 3: shoot or Sanders and we can all we can all 919 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: find common ground so the hot takes can die. It 920 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: is you, pros and a cup of Joe. 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