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Speaker 1: In the season two finale, Lisa throws an over the

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Speaker 1: top eighties themed Vita tequila party, but relationships are tested

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Speaker 1: when Jenny throws a glass at Mary for being dismissive

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Speaker 1: and Meredith confronts Lisa for her actions in Zion. Then

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Speaker 1: the group demands Meredith to tell Jen the real reason

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Speaker 1: they can't be friends, but Meredith threatens to reveal a

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Speaker 1: few secrets of her own. First, Becca Tobin, Jack Vanick,

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Speaker 1: and Kelty Knight from the Ladygang podcast join me to

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Speaker 1: recap this episode. I am so excited. This is real.

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season two, episode twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Why can't we be friends?

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Bethany, I can't thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I can't either. This is, first of all,

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Speaker 1: my first foursome. I've only ever had two people on here,

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Speaker 1: and I've never been with the three of you. I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited. This is amazing.

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Speaker 3: We're very excited.

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Speaker 4: Will we will not let you down?

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Speaker 1: Yay? I know? Oh my god. Okay, So let's get

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Speaker 1: started with your knowledge of the housewives' sphere. I will

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Speaker 1: say that it's always a triggering question when people A

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Speaker 1: loaded question when press asks me if I watch the Housewives,

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Speaker 1: because it seems like I'm hating or shading. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't watch the Housewives. I watch like crime,

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Speaker 1: like crime in some rainy small town where there's someone missing,

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Speaker 1: Like that's what I like to watch because I need

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Speaker 4: And I don't like.

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Speaker 1: Sort of junk food television because it goes too quickly

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Speaker 1: just like yeah, nothing, I don't have anything from it after.

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Speaker 1: So I only watch The Housewives now when i'm watching

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Speaker 1: for a rewatch a rewives, and I had only seen

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City one. So I want to get your

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Speaker 1: fluency in this space.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to go first because you are a woman

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Speaker 5: after my own heart. I was actually nervous to do

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Speaker 5: this podcast because I don't watch The Housewives at all, none, none, none,

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Speaker 5: and I am a true crime officionado, So I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 5: we're connected right now. But my connection to the Housewives

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Speaker 5: is I grew up with Vicky Gunbolson's daughter. She was

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Speaker 5: only connection that I have to the Housewives at all.

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Speaker 1: Wait, that's amazing, guys. We have to have her back

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Speaker 1: on a Vicky Gumbolson's daughter moment episode because they definitely

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Speaker 1: didn't know that. Otherwise we would have been watching something,

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Speaker 1: but then it would have made you biased anyway.

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Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah, it's so funny. I grew up with

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Speaker 5: her daughter, Brianna was like my best friend growing up.

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Speaker 5: So but that's all I have.

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Speaker 1: That's so nice. So that's a lot. That's a big,

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Speaker 1: big for here, for rewives, that's a big like a

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Speaker 1: nice job navigating the show, and that's just big news

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Speaker 1: to me. Wow. Okay, and Jack.

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Speaker 6: Also, we've had like including Bethany, like probably most of

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Speaker 6: the important housewives on Lady Gang podcast over the years.

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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with the good ones.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yes, it was actually funny when we were When

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Speaker 6: I was rewatching this episode of Salt Lake, I was

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Speaker 6: like Genie or Jenny or whatever her name was, I

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Speaker 6: Lady Game podcast. That's what I mean by the important ones.

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Speaker 6: When it's a whisper of a podcast, when it's a

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Speaker 6: whisper of a housewife, they don't last well. Bethany, I

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Speaker 6: was never a Housewives fan until a few years ago.

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Speaker 6: Becca was like, you need a stress release, and so

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Speaker 6: a I've watched every episode of Salt Lake I watched

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Speaker 6: I watched Beverly Hills, I watched New York. I watch

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Speaker 6: a little Potomac and a little Atlanta and I'm about yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I'm I'm well versed. But I have a little

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Speaker 6: Salt Lake info. Two before Becca goes So when I

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Speaker 6: I now work at E News, but I was working

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Speaker 6: at entertainment tonight and during COVID. One of the job,

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Speaker 6: one of my assignments was to go to Salt Lake

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Speaker 6: It was up with Genshaw because she came to the

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Speaker 2: Like wealth whispers.

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Speaker 6: Yes, she was wearing like a head to toe print

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Speaker 6: Gucci denim suit and she brought two furs. There was

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Speaker 6: this is going to be a great season and she's

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Speaker 6: going to be a great housewife because she's ridiculous. But

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Speaker 6: then it all makes sense. We'll talk about that, but anyway,

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Speaker 6: we'll know that Housewives.

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Speaker 1: Saying I always call it the ABC dfg's like they

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Speaker 1: were in the g's, the c's, the H. Every letter

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Speaker 1: of the rainbow is the ABC d EFG is the Housewives,

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Speaker 1: which you know, I don't think like quote unquote really

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Speaker 1: fashionable people are constantly emboldened with letters. But all so,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's tea to say that they found a

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Speaker 1: lot of counterfeit stuff in her clubs. Oh yeah, so

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Speaker 6: Yeah, now it all makes sense. It all makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say about the labels because salt Lake

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Speaker 3: is just crawling with them. The only housewife in history

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Speaker 3: that could get away with the ABC d EFG was Dereet,

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Speaker 3: like the only person I think that she kind of

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Speaker 3: the way she styled everything like it was it was.

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Speaker 3: It made sense to me, it wasn't as cheesy.

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Speaker 1: I'll say she started it okay, everybody there, she did

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Speaker 1: the c's and the ABC's. Yes, but she started as

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Speaker 1: he's like outlandish abcdefg's, but they are out landish because

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Speaker 3: And then all she's like Fendi Barbie, like she's sort

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Speaker 5: There's like difference between like Jenshaw putting it on where.

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Speaker 2: It just looks like a dumpster.

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Speaker 1: Fire and it's not just haphazard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yes, well she also knows the history, and I

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Speaker 6: think that's like when you talk to her, she was like,

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Speaker 6: watching Bethany go to TJ Max where you're like, this

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Speaker 2: Us an education in fact at the same time, yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but that of wind Tour would feel that

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Speaker 1: Tom Ford would agree, that's not really fashion. Like letting

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Speaker 1: that's not really fashion. The history of this sweater, I

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Speaker 1: may have worn it on the Housewives in Vermont or something.

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Speaker 1: Is that I when I buy something, I buy like

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Speaker 1: multiples of it or different iterations, like I'll have like

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Speaker 1: Gucci uh what's this called like embellished sweaters came out

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Speaker 1: going skiing, I always pull them out. And I've had

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Speaker 1: my Gucci Cashmere winter sweater. I love Bravo, and I

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Speaker 1: don't usually like put on cute sort of intentional things

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Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't dress that. We also did intentional dressing today. Sweatshirts, babe.

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Speaker 3: I have a son that's too and he likes race cars,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm wearing this like crazy sweatshirt with race

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Speaker 1: Have sweatshirts on. You're all doing my daughter's version of

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Speaker 1: like hoodie cool.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, holding into our youth, trying to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and none of us are like we're all at

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Speaker 1: the same level. Even though mine's a Gucci sweater, it's still.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm at anyone's level, but this

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Speaker 1: so let's get into this. So now it's funny. The

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Speaker 1: first big scene is Lisa Barlow's tequila party. I'm always

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Speaker 1: going to give credit where credit is due, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say that Lisa has been hawking this tequila

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Speaker 1: was this event called Chef Dance where there were all

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Speaker 1: and get to go to this dinner every night and

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Speaker 1: and was talking about having a tequila which was very

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Speaker 3: She's a hustler. It's confusing to me that she is

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Speaker 3: a Mormon who has the liquor brand. But like we

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Speaker 3: we touched down on that a lot in the show,

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Speaker 3: but we never really get a straight answer, which is

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Speaker 2: Because I thought they were like mormon Ish.

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Speaker 6: when I saw John at BRAVOCN he was like, oh,

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Speaker 6: tequila brand is getting even more confusing as we unpack.

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Speaker 5: And they're all ripping shots, all of them at that party, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: What do you think is the most successful Housewives brand?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I really would like like to like break

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Speaker 2: I don't know the truth. Well, I'm sick of this.

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Speaker 1: that's the same thing with the pressure for plastic surgery

432
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: and fix your teeth and fix your hair and fix

433
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: so you know, they really people want to appear rich.

434
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what people really have. And you're right

435
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: that's a whole other episode breaking down like who's really

436
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: got it like that right to the level like I

437
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: can't think even on Beverly Hills.

438
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 3: Maybe Kyle now Kyle now.

439
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: They have they have money, but they definitely rolled deep.

440
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: Like I know what a person like Maurice makes and

441
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot, but you still he and he owns

442
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: a business, but he hasn't you know, he's not selling

443
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: that business and so he's got overhead and they have

444
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: they have money, and she makes good money. But like

445
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: we're not like that Diana money or like such Diana X.

446
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Like right, it's like real there's real money and then

447
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: there's you know, door eat and PK money or what

448
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Eric money was. Again, you thought Erica was flying in

449
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: a plane around the world and their house was dilapidated

450
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: and he had no money because he owed everybody money,

451
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: which I knew, but the audience didn't really care.

452
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 6: Now, how much money do you This is going to

453
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 6: be a rich person question for how much money does

454
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 6: someone need to be making like a year or be

455
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 6: worth to have like their own jet versus be like

456
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 6: on the rental plan where like I think some of

457
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 6: the housewives are like we'll take the jet, but you

458
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 6: pay like a jets.

459
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: Right yeah, net jets.

460
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

461
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: Okay, So n RP normal rich person, No, no, no,

462
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: non n RP would ever have a plane, Like there's

463
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: just no reason. It's like really for someone who is

464
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: fuck you money, and even like people who have hundreds

465
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars do the NetJets program like they

466
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: just don't want to burn Benji's. So if you just

467
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: want to get up and take your plane down to Florida,

468
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: as a person who owns a plane or even has

469
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: net jets, and you just have hours, it's still costing

470
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: you minimum fifteen to twenty a thousand thousand. Just the

471
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: trip is going to be fifteen to twenty thousand, So

472
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: you have to know that, let's just say, all the

473
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: bells and whistles and the food and everything to go

474
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: to Florida is going to be fifty thousand from New York.

475
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: So I would say a person who has anything less

476
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: than fifty million dollars net like kind of liquid but

477
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe like not like liquid or maybe net worth who's

478
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: over their skis is not doing net jets. You have

479
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: to have fifty million and you're doing and then you're

480
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: doing net jets, like, and that's still you have to

481
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: be conservative, and you're an over your skis person who

482
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: still has an income coming in, you have to be

483
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and fifty million and above to

484
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: even consider a plane. And that's even still poor for

485
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: a person with a plane. So yeah, none of the

486
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: people on this show of anything more than like six

487
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: million dollars a net five six million dollars net worth,

488
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: and neither same on Housewives, that same thing for New York.

489
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: Well, don't you think that the reason that there aren't

490
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: so many like billionaires wives on this show is because

491
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: they just they're never going to expose themselves like that.

492
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: The reason that they can't get like super super wealthy

493
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: New Yorkers to come on the show is like who,

494
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: they don't need the money, they don't need, like it

495
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: would literally just be to get famous. And I feel

496
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: like that's a strange thing to aspire to if you

497
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: already have like oodles and noodles of money.

498
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Enter Diana, Enter Kathy Hilton. Kathy's not a billionaire, but

499
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: you're already wealthy, and you're doing this because you're, you know,

500
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: on the back nine of your career in life and

501
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: you want some action for yourself, you want something, and

502
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: then you do it like Diana, and You're like, need

503
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: this fucking aggravation because I'm already rich. Why would I

504
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: poke the bear in the zoo? If you really, I don't,

505
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would never. I don't know why

506
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: anyone rich would do this, anyone really rich, nobody really

507
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: rich would do this.

508
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 4: Okay, So sorry we got off to bick Mormon.

509
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, funeral service thoughts.

510
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: Mmm, okay, bleak? That was it was?

511
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: You know, I will say it went on for a

512
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: very long time. It felt like it was a really

513
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: long scene and the tone of it is so non housewives.

514
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: I think they were trying to show us a softer

515
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: side of Heather, show us like the family dynamic or whatever.

516
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's sad to say this. He died

517
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: a year before this service as well, so I felt

518
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: like that was a strange thing to do. I was bored.

519
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: Did you feel like it was Carole and Durinda going

520
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: for the ashes or Dourinda going to visit like they

521
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: try to do these meaningful scenes with the audiences and

522
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: wants to get over to the yeah, leg throwing.

523
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. It was too long, too boring.

524
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: We didn't we never met the dad on the show.

525
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't even something. Even at least with Derinda, her

526
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: dead husband is like another character on the show. He's

527
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: so present that that was more entertaining than this.

528
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 6: Right, Like, I didn't mind when Lisa Rena's mom died

529
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 6: and she was going through the trinkets and being like, oh,

530
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 6: this was mom's thing.

531
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: This was because you were like, you saw mom for

532
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of seasons and you liked Lois.

533
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, we loved her and we felt like emotional with her.

534
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: You're right, I felt like we were in a laws too.

535
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 6: But I'm like, Heather's dad allegedly hates everyone hates you.

536
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why you're there, Like, yes.

537
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: And Deronda's husband is part of her identity on the show.

538
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 4: Is what you're saying?

539
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit?

540
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did you guys? Were you picking up that

541
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: this was like a forced produced scene and the reason

542
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: that the mom wasn't there and the reason it was

543
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: so awkward and weird and certain people weren't there because

544
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: they weren't breaking the fourth wall being like these people

545
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: don't want to exploit and film this fake funeral that's

546
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: a year later and strange that production forced for some

547
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: like reality filler on the show is her.

548
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 5: Has her mom ever been on the show, because I

549
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 5: think they blurred her face out.

550
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: She never has been.

551
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: I have no relationship because of how they're leaving the church.

552
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: It's like a non Housewives watcher. I felt so uncomfortable

553
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: during that scene because I'm like, this doesn't this isn't

554
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 5: what I signed up for when I was watching this episode, Like,

555
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 5: but was.

556
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: It worse than watching Whitney have Love's art sex?

557
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Because that was the I need to talk about that.

558
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: We're getting We're getting there. Oh I think that the

559
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: net Wait the net, We're getting there. I'm going in order.

560
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: The photo shoot is the next thing with Like, I

561
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: like the inclusivity conversation, not because I'm being twenty twenty

562
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: three and I'm supposed like I actually like the conversation.

563
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: Also in Salt Lake. I'm thinking about that kid growing

564
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: up in Salt Lake and that the show has probably

565
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: been great for that, like awareness, I like the glad

566
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: approach them Like, I'm liking that whole conversation. I just

567
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: think it's a great for the show, and it did

568
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: land to me. I mean, the photoshoot is a little oh,

569
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, forced with the Frother sister thing, but I

570
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: thought it landed. What do you guys think.

571
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: Sexual pose from the brother and sister right, Yeah, yeah.

572
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: I liked it.

573
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: I kind of like Meredith. I only enjoy Meredith when

574
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: she's with her family, and I like when they show

575
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: her with her family. It seems like she has a

576
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: great relationship with both of her kids. She and Seth

577
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: are in a good place at this point in time,

578
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: and I actually really root for them, and I have

579
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: from the beginning. Even though they took a creepy bathtub

580
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: did the creepy bathtub scene and we were all upset

581
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: by that, But I like it and I liked.

582
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: Her in it.

583
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 6: I I can't decide if I like Meredith. Like we

584
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: had her own Lady Gang and she was lovely and

585
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: like the first season, I was like, oh good, they

586
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: got like a classy entrepreneury woman and she's dressed cute

587
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 6: and like and to be honestly, this is pretty early

588
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 6: in Salt Lake. Like this episode she just gets more

589
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 6: like she makes no sense, you know what I mean,

590
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 6: And like like this this photo shoot made no sense.

591
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 6: It definitely felt the same, Like I agree with you, Bethany,

592
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: it was a little try hard. It's a little like, Okay,

593
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 6: we're gonna do a shoot for the show. Who can

594
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 6: we bring in to make it a thing? Because the

595
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 6: other thing about Meredith on the show, and like I listen,

596
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: it's her personal it's their lives, but you sign up

597
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 6: to be a housewife, and so like we're supposed to

598
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 6: get access to you is that she does these like

599
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 6: very stunty things for Glad but like we never, I

600
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 6: don't know, we never see her have any conversations with

601
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 6: her son that are like super meaningful and maybe he

602
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: doesn't want to talk about it or whatever, But it

603
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 6: was like it's it's always been. I don't know, Becka,

604
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 6: what you think, Like she's always tiptoed around it because

605
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 6: for the first season he wasn't out and so like

606
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 6: we were like tiptoeing around it, which I completely understand,

607
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 6: you're not gonna out someone that doesn't want to be

608
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 6: at it. But now he's out and he still like

609
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: has never had a conversation with his mom about her

610
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 6: on camera, but yet she's doing these stunty things.

611
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: So maybe that's her love language like.

612
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think she's her. I feel this

613
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: way about her and a couple other housewives, and like

614
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to think of who they are. But

615
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: anytime I find a housewife who's a little bit doesn't

616
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense when the drama starts up,

617
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: is contradicting herself, is a little inconsistent. I think that

618
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: those are the women who are a little too normal

619
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: to be on the show and a little too self aware,

620
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: and they're just trying so hard to play the part,

621
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: but they're just like not quite method enough, do you

622
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like she's she doesn't read like

623
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: housewife to me, like eccentric or or wild, wants.

624
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: To be there so badly, and you can see that

625
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: she's trying to create things. And it's funny because why not.

626
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: It was years, This is the truth. It wasn't until

627
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: I took everyone to Mexico. It's the first time I

628
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: heard anyone say storyline. She has no storyline to I

629
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: was talking about Ramona or Sonya or something and having

630
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: no storyline. And I swear on everything I am and

631
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: hope to be, I've never once thought about, like what

632
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: the storyline was there's just always enough going on around me,

633
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: Like right now there's a drama with my my pool,

634
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: my pool guy, this other situation. Like I have stuff

635
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: going on that for some reason or it's the way

636
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: that I relate to it or react to it, Like

637
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: there's always stuff going on because I have a lot.

638
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: I have many businesses and it's real. But when you

639
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: don't have a lot going on, you're manufacturing it and

640
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot to fill on this show, and they

641
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: pressure you to have things and like you might be like,

642
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: I want to talk about my pencil project and they'll

643
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: be like eh, and you have to then force Oh,

644
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have us you know, a brother's sister

645
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: glad shoot and I think this is creepy and they're like,

646
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: oh okay, Like that's the that's the bikini like art

647
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: scene coming up. Like that's not something they thought of doing.

648
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: That's something that was suggested to them because we need

649
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: a scene with you and your husband, and like then

650
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: the creative advertising meeting starts to figure out what that

651
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: scene's going to be. That's what those two scenes are.

652
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: Do you think by now they have these buckets when

653
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: they're casting of types of women so I think of you,

654
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you're a really self actualized, aware person,

655
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: but just so happen to be interesting enough that whatever

656
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: you do is dynamic. You can like be making a

657
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: bagel on Instagram and I'm like, I want.

658
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: To watch this for three hours.

659
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: I have no fucking idea why.

660
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: So it's like, even though you're drama with the pool guy,

661
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: like you make it interesting, but if Meredith has drama

662
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: with the pool guy, I don't worry. I do not

663
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: want to watch that. So it's like I think there's

664
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: like the buckets of people who are just interesting to watch.

665
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: Then there's the total lunatics who are so unaware, which

666
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: is like the Ramonas of the world. And then I think, yeah,

667
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: so I'm like, do they have the prototypes they must

668
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: buy now?

669
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Right?

670
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Yes, not exactly. There'll be an anchor that's bringing all

671
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: the people together, and then you're trying to fill in

672
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: the blanks and you're trying to surround that. So if

673
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I launched a brand and then I launched the next brand,

674
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to sort of connect to the initial brand.

675
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: So it's like if you have Jill Zarron in there

676
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: and then she's already friends with Well, it's a countess.

677
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: It's just like a brand name label countess. We need

678
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: a countess whatever that means. And you know, and then Ramona,

679
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, brings the party but doesn't kill the drama.

680
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: And there you go. So then Sonya wasn't In the beginning,

681
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Alex and Simon we thought it was crazy. But I

682
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: get what they're saying, this like group that's not going

683
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: to fit in. They're from Brooklyn, New York is in

684
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to people who live in New York City. And

685
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: back then I was the question. They didn't want me,

686
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: They didn't want me on the show. I like was

687
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: absolutely denied, and Andy Cohen didn't want me. I had

688
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: to be pushed through reluctantly. And I didn't want to

689
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: do it either. But then now years later in other cities,

690
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, that might be that's like a She's

691
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: like a Bethany character could fill in different banks based

692
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: on you know what the beginning was. I think, yeah,

693
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: so interesting, I want to Pramona's VICKI a little bit.

694
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, right, yes, very much.

695
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that it moves and flows. And

696
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: then but then the mistake that people make is themselves

697
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: coming in and saying to themselves, I'm going to be

698
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: the Bethany. That's what people come in and say, I've

699
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: heard that from producers, and then you're having a hard

700
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: time on your own, having your own identity.

701
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you have too much self awareness that

702
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 5: you think you're going to play a character and then

703
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: it comes off as disingenuous or like to try hard.

704
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

705
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: Well, that's the real problem with Bravo right now is

706
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 6: that they like, in my opinion, the last couple seasons

707
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: of like OC and like they like Noela. On the OC,

708
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: it was like clearly they were like, we need a young,

709
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 6: hot girl, a woman of color to be on the show.

710
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 6: But like she had studied, she went to the she

711
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: grew up in the school of housewives. She knew exactly

712
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 6: what to wear, she knew exactly what to say. And

713
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: then you're like, I actually hate her because she's not

714
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 6: even like a real person. She is playing a character

715
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 6: of a housewife. And it's kind of good because I

716
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 6: feel like they've gotten on Salt Lake later, they've gotten

717
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 6: a couple of people like that too, like Angie, she

718
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: wanted to be a housewife so bad, and they cut them,

719
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 6: which good, well.

720
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: New York is a cast of seasoned, trained, slacked, glossed

721
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: house and they were like training season. Okay, so let's

722
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: discuss Whitney and this awkward. My problem is like the

723
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: mic near the crack and thong, like I'm not going

724
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: to start talking about someone's body because anybody's going to

725
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: look a certain way in that light and that just

726
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it was just her skin color

727
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: with the red and the lack of the microphone upper

728
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: at I don't know. I was just very uncomfortable.

729
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 6: One scene, they couldn't get a boom operator to hold

730
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 6: the book mike out.

731
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: They had this poor thought we did to get the spanking.

732
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: You know, by the time he got the spanking, they

733
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: were on a boom thank god.

734
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: Oh they were the mics.

735
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Were off, I under stand, And it's really him like

736
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's she's she's the me, like I

737
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: was the prostitute there for the transaction, Like what the

738
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: fuck is he doing part of this?

739
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: Like, you know, he lost his whole career after that?

740
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: What did he do? What did he do?

741
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: That scene?

742
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: That scene, that scene on Housewives?

743
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 6: That man the company he had worked for for like

744
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 6: twenty five years and was like a.

745
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: VP of fired him, No way fired him.

746
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: Yep.

747
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 6: They were like, we don't agree with this. You have

748
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 6: to pick you can be on the show. Wasn't that

749
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 6: what it was?

750
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they gave Hill tomatom. I think

751
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: they were just like this is gross and you're fired. Y.

752
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: Like what company did he work for? And what they're

753
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: she's getting paid is so low compared to like and

754
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: I had. I was in a relationship with someone who's

755
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: something similar happened. This was the excuse for it, and

756
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything like that. But I've talked about this,

757
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: the kids and the husbands that just sign up for

758
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: this and the wife really wants them to do it

759
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: to support them, and then it ruins their career. And

760
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: then he said Greg lost a job because of it.

761
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: Greg, Oh really, yeah?

762
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I forgot what happened in the beginning, So explain to

763
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: me what his job was.

764
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: I actually have no idea, do you?

765
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 6: I have no idea what he did, But he was

766
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 6: like he was the guy and he had I think

767
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: what was heartbreaking is that he is a corporate guy,

768
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 6: but he had been there for like twenty years, like

769
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 6: he had been there for a long time, and then

770
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 6: on seasons after of Salt Lake, you he comes home.

771
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 6: You see him in the next season come home and

772
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 6: be like, I lost my job, and she's like, you know,

773
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 6: maybe selling her skincare line, Like she's not working, she's

774
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 6: a stay at home and then she goes back to work,

775
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: and then he's looking for a job and can't get

776
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 6: a job, and so yeah, it's like really kind of heartbreaking.

777
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: You feel bad for the guy because it was so cringey.

778
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: But you know, I want to to remind Becca and

779
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 6: Jack and tell you Bethany, when we had our Lady

780
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 6: Gang TV show on e we had a very similar

781
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 6: scene which you can't and because I had it sprubbed

782
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 6: from the internet.

783
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Because you had Housewives producers producing.

784
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 6: Yes, but we had a scene where we did some

786
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: topless painting and it was like, you know, at the time,

787
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 6: you're like, you have your own show and we need

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 6: to push the envelope and the network wants more more,

789
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 6: like it needs to be louder, and you're.

790
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: Like, you know, wasn't wasn't forced, but it was kind

791
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 2: of forced.

792
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying, we all agree to.

793
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 6: Do it, and you're like, you think it's going to

794
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 6: be one way, and you're doing it and we're all friends,

795
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: and so it was like, it's not that awkward for

796
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 6: us to be doing it, and like we're having a

797
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 6: good time. And then we saw it later and we're

798
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: like okay. And then when they went to go put

799
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 6: the shows online, we specifically had it taken out because

800
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 6: we felt and they did it, which was I thought

801
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 6: was really cool of e.

802
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: They were like, we totally get it. Well, you are

803
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: allowed to because we were executive producers. We had a

804
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: little bit of like an ask. I mean, not really,

805
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: but yeah.

806
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But like I was thinking, in

807
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: what scene of this show, of this entire franchise, is

808
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: the scene not designed to make people look like morons

809
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: where the producers in the moment have told you that

810
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be great. So this funeral services to

811
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: make people look at her look stupid. This red outfit

812
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: and this art thing is to make them look like fools.

813
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: The tequila scene, the woman Lisa, You'll never see someone

814
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: nicer to the other people than when it's their own

815
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: party for their own product, because they're panic stricken, wondering

816
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: what's being said, behind there. So hey, you look amazing,

817
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: like it's so beyond if it's your own because you're

818
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: just like trying to cover people in bubble reps. They

819
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: don't say bad things. But nevertheless, Mary said, tequila tastes

820
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: like shit. It tastes like water, and that's a risk

821
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: you take, Like when you have a real brand at

822
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: this level, you can't take these risks with partners like

823
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Jill Zarren right now has a real you know, branch,

824
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: She's partners with Chris Birch and doing these products. She

825
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: won't take the risk of looking like a moron who

826
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: has shitty product. It's just not worth it. So you know,

827
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Peloton took a big hit for someone getting a heart

828
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: attack on their bikes.

829
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

830
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So I was just thinking, like this scene

831
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: is sounds good in the room, and when people say

832
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: you know what you're signing up for, you really don't

833
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're signing up for, no.

834
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: Because you're you know, you're auditioning. And for us, it

835
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: was this kind of similar where they're like, we love

836
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: what you guys have, we just want to bring it

837
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: to TV. It's like we love the person you are

838
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: and we love your life, we just want to bring

839
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: it to TV. Then you get this huge opportunity, similar

840
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: to Housewives. You're like, I don't want to blow it.

841
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to disappoint anybody. And then suddenly you

842
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: get there and they act like you're not important or

843
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: you're not interesting enough to be authentic. So then you

844
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: do all these crazy You get talked into these weird things,

845
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: and I do feel very sorry for these people. But

846
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: at this point, because of all these conversations being had,

847
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: I hope now people know that.

848
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: You really have to be desperate.

849
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: To be famous or make a little tiny bit of

850
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: money to go on Housewives.

851
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: Yes, and I actually don't think it was I know

852
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: it's been great for Genna Lions and that she's getting

853
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: a lot of media attention, but it's confusing and I

854
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: don't understand who she is or what her brand is,

855
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: because you know, it doesn't seem like who she's presenting

856
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: would be part of this brand. So she's trying to

857
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: bridge that gap. But I think the allure of whoever

858
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: people thought she was being the CEO of this major company,

859
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: it's like lifting the veil. It's like the way Megan

860
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: and Harry seem now to people before it's like, oh, ye,

861
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: does the Emperor have clothes? Like I think that's one

862
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: of the things that are interesting about this. But you know, anyway,

863
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: they definitely did not have sex during the scene or out,

864
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: Like there's no way there was anything sexual.

865
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: That's they both were probably like this is the most I've.

866
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: Felt more aroused with the funeral than not his art.

867
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 5: By the way, I bought that Love is Art. I've

868
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 5: done it Christmas present for Jared the first year that

869
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: we started dating, and it has been five and a

870
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: half years and.

871
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: We have never opened it.

872
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: I've done it, and it's terrible. It's as terrible as

873
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: you think.

874
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's awk, you know. Amy Schumer says it the best,

875
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: like she makes it like being married is like and

876
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: like having sex with your husband is like having sex

877
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: with your best friend, like yep, Like you've been with

878
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: this person so long and you know them, so it's

879
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: like awkward, Like you're like, hey, person, I know, and

880
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I've talked about everything from kids to parenting to bodily

881
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: functions and poopy diapers. H let's do an interesting sexual activity.

882
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: It's like, ew, who are you you freaking weirdo?

883
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: It's so true, so true.

884
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about this on Lady Ding

885
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: podcast that it's actually kind of like a brother too.

886
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's familial. And I'm like, I don't

887
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: want like I've I've showing you parts of my body,

888
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: like I've shown you a hemorrhoid before, Like I don't

889
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: need to then do lingerie and weird sex positions with you.

890
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Right, Like the robotic thing sounds pretty good. Like it's

891
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: like you've a couple of things to do today and

892
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: that's one of those things, and it's gonna be enjoyable

893
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: and it's goal oriented for both people in cases. But

894
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: like we don't need to like make you know, we

895
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: don't need to be like mopping our kitchen with flair.

896
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: Something we're gonna do today and it's gonna be great

897
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be happy we did it, but we

898
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: don't need to bling it out.

899
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I enjoy a flare.

900
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what's wrong with the painting set

901
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: is that men have such hairy butt cracks and the

902
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: underball area and stuff like listen and in general, like

903
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: man's body hair like a woman covered in paint is

904
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 6: like it's like Beyonce in the cover album. It's like, listen,

905
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 6: it's terrible, but it's not so terrible. But a man

906
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 6: like with their leg hair and where the paint goes

907
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: and like how it collapsed, how it clumps up on

908
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 6: like different hairs.

909
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 5: Ew Yes, unattractive unless you're a baby dolphin.

910
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to see your finger painted.

911
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: Well, men's bodies are well.

912
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: My fiance is. My fiance is a quarter Japanese and

913
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: he really has doesn't have a lot of hairy He

914
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: has like three hairs on his chest and he would

915
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: be great, amazing. Yes, send it to me, send me

916
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: the one you didn't use some of your used art

917
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: is love No, because I'll say to him, you're hairy,

918
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: is like three hair. He's not a hairy person. I

919
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: love that. But he's not like a dolphin either. Yeah,

920
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of dreaming. Yeah, okay, so it's a cute concept.

921
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: It's made for TV scene not unlike on one of

922
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: these other shows. Somebody got into a pool in a

923
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: full wedding dress I saw while pregnant, like in one

924
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: of these shows. Yes, I forgot which one, maybe Toomac.

925
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: But she was in a pool in a full wedding dress,

926
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Like you have to push these scenes because they have

927
00:44:46,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: to fill. You need filler, Yeah, you need filler, all right,

928
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: So can we talk about there are always these things

929
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: that housewives do, Like you're trying to sell tequila and

930
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: now you're doing a blinged out bottle because you're doing

931
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: it for free people, but like it makes it less relatable,

932
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: less shippable, not marketing to men at all, women, Like

933
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: it's just not a It's like when Kathy Wakili, who

934
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: I liked, did a red velvet cocktail. You are so limited,

935
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Like it's just limiting. It's just not a blinging out

936
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: tequila is not necessary as a maybe for a marketed bottle,

937
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: but not for like a mainstream packaging.

938
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: It feels like excess.

939
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 5: And then two thousand and two, But then also it

940
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 5: was like the theme of the party did not go

941
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 5: along with like what she was trying to do at all.

942
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 5: It's like she's doing this low brow, like nineties sort

943
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 5: of mall party for this crystal blinked out bottle, Like

944
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 5: that doesn't make any sense to me.

945
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: No, And what about the post that they did that

946
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: weird graphics stuff that looked like, oh, Duran Duran and

947
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, what are you doing?

948
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: It was like that all game we played. What was

949
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: the mall board game?

950
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: We played?

951
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: I forget.

952
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Stranger things like the way that they're in the eighties

953
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: and that like a yeah, there was a movie a

954
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: thousand years ago called Mannequin with Andrew McCarthy and this

955
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: movie was this this graphic It was very did that

956
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: did not land being a thing?

957
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: Don't land No?

958
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 6: And I remember texting Lisa because I watched it and

959
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: I'm like that bad person that gets your phone number

960
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 6: and then actually watches the show and text you like

961
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 6: I can't imagine how annoying that is, but I did it.

962
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 6: And then I remember being like your party, Like the

963
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 6: theme was so cute, but they really ruined it with

964
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 6: these graphics, and like I do that thing where I

965
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 6: like send people text offensive text messages but think I'm

966
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: like we're in on it together, and like she was like,

967
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 6: whoa you think?

968
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: And I was like you don't know that. This is

969
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: so like it's too late. What do you want me

970
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: to do?

971
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: Don't give me a note that I can't change back.

972
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: It was so ugly and sheep looking.

973
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 5: I love how she was going like in the beginning

974
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: of the episode, when she was like looking at all

975
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: the things, She's like, I love it, I love it,

976
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 5: I love it, and I'm like, oh sucks.

977
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Yes, this sucked.

978
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: The moment that I cringed really hard was when they

979
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: were in the Vita Tequila car driving to the party

980
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: and she's with John and she's like, this car, I'm obsessed.

981
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: I just for some reason, I even hated it.

982
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: It felt loved.

983
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: John felt so fake.

984
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.

985
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: I think John's so hot. He's attracted.

986
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: Know why you do? Because he's tall.

987
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

988
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 6: He's like one of the housewife husbands that I think

989
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 6: is hot.

990
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of the Jackie woman

991
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: on Jersey's Husband, like that type.

992
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: No, oh, similar, yeah, because I find Jackie's husband attractive.

993
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: This woman, Jenny is one of these people that also

994
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: watched Housewives and is like, none of this is working

995
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: for me, So I'm just gonna be the villain. I'm

996
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: going to decide. I'm gonna just like I've seen this

997
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: before where it's really strange. It's almost like sometimes a

998
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: guest of someone a Housewives friend, will do something insane

999
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: because they want to find a way to get in

1000
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: on the show. It happens on Jersey, It's happened on Atlanta,

1001
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: where you can just see the desperation. This one is

1002
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: a housewife who seems like a friend who's trying to

1003
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: be a housewife get noticed on the show.

1004
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: I even know because it was I think it was

1005
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: Whitney and Mary fighting about her culty church.

1006
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: Or something like that, and then she just jumps in.

1007
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: I obviously didn't watch the season, so I don't know

1008
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: what happened previously with this Jenny girl, but I'm.

1009
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 4: Like, what is happening? I'm like, how is this about you?

1010
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: Now?

1011
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: And jumping into the other fight that was happening. It

1012
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: was very like should you be here?

1013
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: No? And I think when you throw a glass on

1014
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: a housewives show, unless you've ever thrown a glass at

1015
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: someone in your normal life, it is not allowed.

1016
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 1: Like crime.

1017
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 3: Teresa Judici or whatever her last name is now, she's

1018
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: flipped eight hundred tables in her life, so when she

1019
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: flips a table on the show, I'm like, of course,

1020
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: and that's why she's an amazing housewife. Jenny has never

1021
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: thrown a glass in anyone in her entire fucking life.

1022
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Right, I actually believe that, and jen Shaw has.

1023
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, no, she's she's created has.

1024
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 5: Thrown, wasn't she like I threw, I know how to

1025
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 5: throw a glass? Better thing or something like that.

1026
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: A lot further, Yeah, you saw a little bit. She

1027
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: was provoking Mary with the Hood conversation. She was trying

1028
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: to get something going. You've never seen the Hood in

1029
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: your life, like she was trying to get something going.

1030
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: I saw here. And Mary's very polarizing too. I've seen her.

1031
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: She's reached out to me on social media. That's a

1032
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: polarizing character is she's still on the show.

1033
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: So she left for a season and everyone was so

1034
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: devastated and they missed her. So now on this new

1035
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: season she's kind of a friend of but she's refusing

1036
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: to really participate. I dislike her very much. Some of

1037
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: the things that she has said have been like very

1038
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: mean spirited, where she told Heather Gay that she looked inbred,

1039
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: and then when Heathergate came back at her and said,

1040
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: I'm really hurt, giving her the opportunity to be like,

1041
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to say that, and

1042
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: Mary said, yes, I did say that, and I do

1043
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 3: mean it that you look in bread.

1044
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: Those are her moods, right, I've only seen yeah, I've

1045
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: only seen two episodes over. But she told somebody she

1046
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: smelled like hospital. I think it was jen Shaw or something,

1047
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: and she doubled down, So that's I guess she's unfiltered.

1048
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: But just saying like her tequila tastes like water like

1049
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: it just it doesn't seem necessary. It's not like something

1050
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: that affected her. It's just like random shots. I think

1051
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: she said to somebody, don't validate yourself in a scene here,

1052
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: and I don't understand why someone wouldn't validate themselves. I

1053
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't even know what she meant. Did you hear that

1054
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: she don't validate yourself?

1055
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's very mean, like she well she always hates

1056
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 6: Whitney and she's like you little girl, like she's I

1057
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 6: personally think like enjoy Mary as a housewife to watch

1058
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 6: her because fifty percent of it is, like Becca said,

1059
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 6: like so mean and terrible and you're like ooh no.

1060
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 6: But and then like the other fifty percent of it

1061
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 6: can quite be quite funny at.

1062
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: Times, got it okay?

1063
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 6: And like because she's so straightforward and she's like I'm

1064
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: not sitting with you, like and she'll just go off

1065
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 6: by herself, like it is kind of funny. And I

1066
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: did miss her when she wasn't on the season. But yeah,

1067
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 6: she's not so bananas, like she's her whole world is

1068
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 6: like so weird, and she you know, she's the most

1069
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 6: amazing clothes. She has all these things, but like you

1070
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 6: run a church, like it just doesn't make sense. And

1071
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 6: then she's always like she calls like a head at

1072
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 6: hotels and she's like, do you have the nineteen ninety

1073
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 6: two dom Perion because like the grapes were bigger that season,

1074
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 6: and that's all she'll drink.

1075
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is I think that she's two different

1076
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: people on the shows. And I like the character that

1077
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: was sitting at a table one time and had a

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00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: fight with Crystal, Like she had her hair and a

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: ponytail and it was like it was just like a loose,

1080
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: like natural ponytail and maybe a scarf around and she

1081
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: was feeling awkward at this dinner. I liked her at

1082
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: that dinner because she seemed very real. But then you're right,

1083
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: she puts on airs and it's different.

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00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, she's inconsistent.

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 6: You can also tell she's not friends with any of

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00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: these people in real life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's a very that's a great They're like, oh.

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00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: Mary, it's like Grandma coming to dinner.

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00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 6: They're like, oh Mary's coming, Like what's new, Mary, haven't

1090
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 6: seen you in five years? Like you know, I kind

1091
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 6: of feel like Mered with Lisa Heather Whitney, like they

1092
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 6: have a group chat that like continues.

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know each they really know each other. The

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: men there. I find this on many of the shows

1095
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: when the men are interacting, it's odd to me. It's

1096
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: like rare dork bro content that is very cringey, and

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00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: I can never Paul would never be standing like making

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00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: an effort to like do this. Weird happens on Jersey too.

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00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: Jersey. Oh so they're like housewives. The husbands on Jersey

1100
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: are pretty much housewives. We see them almost as much.

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00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 3: And then they have their guide dinners and it's so strange.

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: Eight when the men interact, you.

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Mean, I don't love it. The core group I understand,

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00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: like I understand some of the core guys, but then

1105
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: when they're trying to like force in one of the

1106
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: periphery peripheral non Italian husbands or in this case, like

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like these people would ever be

1108
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: hanging out. So that's what makes it really strange, like

1109
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: some corporate Marriotte Christmas party.

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Speaker 6: It's literally as awkward as in real life when you

1111
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: take your husband to the party and you're like, you

1112
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 6: don't remember.

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00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: Jim right bye, I'm gonna go be with my friends.

1114
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 6: Like, no one els to see what's happening with Jim

1115
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 6: and Brian in the corner.

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00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's not exciting, it's awkward.

1117
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: They're bros. They're all wearing like this.

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 6: They were wearing white socks ten minutes ago before their

1119
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 6: wives were like, you can't wear white socks.

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00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Are dress pants?

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00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 6: Like change your socks before we go, you know, Like,

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00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 6: it's just it's not the fantasy I need to escape

1123
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 6: from my own shitty life. Give me the full fantasy.

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to see your awkward husbands.

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00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, So speaking of that, the next part is

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00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: about the affairs and Meredith. And it's always great on

1127
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: housewives shows when it's twenty twenty hindsight and the housewife

1128
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: acts like it was never a problem that we had affairs.

1129
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: We had an open marriage, but wasn't it On this

1130
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: very show, like something people talked about but wasn't open.

1131
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: And that's the nature of this game, like secrets exposed.

1132
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: Because they tried to come in. Meredith and Seth tried

1133
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: to come in to the show and not exposed that

1134
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: they had ever separated, I believe. So they tried to

1135
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: come in like this happy couple, I think, and then

1136
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: it came out that everyone knew that they were separated.

1137
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: Everyone knew she was fucking all these people, like everyone

1138
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: on the quote upper East Side of New York. That

1139
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: was my favorite quote of the whole episode.

1140
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: Everyone on the Upper East Side of New York.

1141
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: So, yes, why not, as I think, because she's from

1142
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: New York.

1143
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't think she even really lives in Utah.

1144
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: It's confusing.

1145
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't seem like she She doesn't look or

1146
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: seem or act like she lives in Utah.

1147
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 6: I didn't realize that was a thing where you could

1148
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 6: like fly in, get a property, and be a housewife

1149
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 6: in a city where you weren't a living, breathing person

1150
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: from that city.

1151
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: Jessel on New York. Allegedly, Jessel is from Dallas and

1152
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: she moved to New York to be on the Real

1153
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: Housewives Tinsley. Tinsley did too.

1154
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was living in a hotel, not because she

1155
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: was really looking for a place, because she was living

1156
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: in Florida and she would have been a great housewife, so.

1157
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: She uh that feels like Meredith's story a little bit.

1158
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, no, it's funny because I was

1159
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: talking about doing the show with your former producers. I

1160
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: was talking about doing a show in Connecticut that I

1161
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: ended up not wanting to do, but I had a

1162
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: brief conversation with Lisa Vanna Pump who was kind of

1163
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: alluding to the fact that she would be willing to

1164
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: consider Connecticut with Ken if there was some opportunity with

1165
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: a show or something. So yeah, like people would move

1166
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: to be on different shows. We have a rose in

1167
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: a thorn of the episode. The episode was fine, It

1168
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: was fine. This is is this a good show? I

1169
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: think this is pretty good on the housewives spectrum for

1170
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: like getting a little bit of meat, like things do happen?

1171
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: Right?

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1173
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1174
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 4: Was this the last episode of the season?

1175
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, that's a shitty finale.

1176
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: I know.

1177
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not great that what happened, nothing happened. That's

1178
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: a ship finale. Okay, yeah, so like that's not a

1179
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: good finale.

1180
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, maybe the producers made Jenny throw that glass.

1181
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, that is not a great finale like oh

1182
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: CE does amazing finales.

1183
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.

1184
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: It was like a half It was like a half

1185
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: argument that like didn't have an ending, and then like

1186
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 5: a shitty glass throwne and then that was it.

1187
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, immediately now we're just we're retoeing that.

1188
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: All right. So not a remarkable episode and not a

1189
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: remarkable finale. So new show, what else do we need?

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: All right? We did it. We laughed and we cried.

1191
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: We loved it.

1192
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 6: Bethany, thank you, thank you. You need to come back

1193
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 6: on Lady Gang very soon, I.

1194
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: Know, come on in the year.

1195
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: And also the way you guys let each other speak

1196
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: is admirable.

1197
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 6: We were on our best behavior for you, Bethany, because

1198
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 6: we want to We want you to like us and

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00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: invite us back.

1200
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of course this is great. So think of

1201
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: other episodes you want to Oh we have to do

1202
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: one maybe uh with Orange County Brianna Brianna ban Yeah,

1203
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: they just said the same thing. Oh see all right, awesome, yay, guys,

1204
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for me bye bye bye