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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh

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Speaker 1: Clark and there's Charles w Chuck Bryant. Jerry's not with us,

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Speaker 1: but these beautiful people are at the Gothic Theater in Denver, Colorado. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was easily double last night's reception. That was That

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Speaker 1: was a good start, is what they called that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but there's a lovely

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Speaker 1: lady with a Josh sent me shirt. Oh yes, I

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Speaker 1: thank you for loving that. Um. Okay, So tonight, you guys,

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna feel like you just wasted your applause

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Speaker 1: because we're going to be talking about game shows. Yes,

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Speaker 1: oh good, you guys are into it. That's good because

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Speaker 1: it was a it's a coin toss. Frankly, about half

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Speaker 1: the people are like, I wonder what the real topic is, right,

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Speaker 1: he's just kidding. We actually we wanted a show, and

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Speaker 1: I think Portland's and came out and said that, Um,

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Speaker 1: it was the anniversary of the How the Sun Works show,

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Speaker 1: so we were gonna redo it, and like all the

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Speaker 1: people were like, wow, we want to like you guys,

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Speaker 1: but we're really mad right now, are you kidding? Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're just we're all super high, so we really don't care, right,

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Speaker 1: They're like, that's why we cheered a game shows. So

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Speaker 1: we we wanted to do game shows in part because

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Speaker 1: Fourth of July is coming up. You guys can't have

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Speaker 1: fireworks because it's too dry here to set off a firework.

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Speaker 1: It's the most wildly irresponsible thing you could do. Something

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Speaker 1: tells me that some of your militia members are going

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Speaker 1: to shoot off fireworks anyway, but even still, Fourth of

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Speaker 1: July is coming. So we wanted to do something American,

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Speaker 1: and nothing is more American than game shows. They're like

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Speaker 1: leisure suit level American, right, but as yeah, right, you

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Speaker 1: get a free beer, as Americans game shows are. However,

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Speaker 1: it turns out that the first game show on television

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Speaker 1: was actually British. It was a British investor. Now we

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Speaker 1: like the base because they live in another country. Right,

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Speaker 1: And remember this, buddy, if you shoot into the air,

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Speaker 1: bullets come back down, so just don't shoot into the air.

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Speaker 1: Maybe blanks are okay. So this first game show in

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Speaker 1: Great Britain, it launched in ninety eight, is called Spelling

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Speaker 1: Bee and it was exactly what it sounds like. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Freddie Grysewood was the host, and he dressed as a

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Speaker 1: school teacher. He kind of played it up a bit,

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Speaker 1: which was nice, and he would say spell this, and

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Speaker 1: they spelled it. And if it sounds boring, it was

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Speaker 1: because even though there was nothing on TV, it still

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Speaker 1: was not met with warm receptions. Advertisers liked it. But

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Speaker 1: there was a columnist in The Independent in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: just eighteen years ago, such a snarky British thing to say.

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Speaker 1: He said this one of the few happy consequences of

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Speaker 1: the Second World War was it took spelling Be off

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Speaker 1: air burn. Yeah, like a good World War two burn.

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Speaker 1: So spelling Be even though it was boring, it kicked

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Speaker 1: off this huge craze. Just immediately. Everyone saw like, okay,

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Speaker 1: if spelling Bee can be popular with the advertisers, we

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Speaker 1: can do better than that. We're America, right, So we

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Speaker 1: took it the ball and ran with it. We were

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Speaker 1: already familiar with game shows. We had them on the radio,

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Speaker 1: like we had shows like um, you bet your life

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Speaker 1: with grout show Marks was a big one. Um, there

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Speaker 1: was what is it? What's my line? What's my line?

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Speaker 1: That's where you tried to guess someone's profession by asking

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Speaker 1: them questions. It's like maybe a step up from spelling

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Speaker 1: b Right. Then things start to get cool with Truth

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Speaker 1: or Consequences, which started out as a radio show and

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Speaker 1: then very quickly moved on to TV. Truth or Consequences

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Speaker 1: was this show where you had to you were asked

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Speaker 1: buzzer sounded. They named their buzzer Beulah Yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of neat, right, It's just a nice little touch, right,

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Speaker 1: And if you didn't answer before Bulah went off, um,

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Speaker 1: you had to face the consequences, which is like something wacky,

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Speaker 1: like a mock execution or something like that. Right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The coolest thing about that show though, was that they

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Speaker 1: have you ever been to Truth or Consequences? New Mexico?

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Speaker 1: Were driven very fast through there. Yeah, are you from there? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Los Crucis guy myself, but whatever, name dropper,

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Speaker 1: name their city after Truth or Consequences. This is not

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Speaker 1: Before that, it was the lovely Hot Springs, New Mexico,

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Speaker 1: and they named it Truth or Consequences. They're like, our

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Speaker 1: town's name is basically just like a caution sign. We

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Speaker 1: cheaped out personally. Okay, don't tell them that back in

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Speaker 1: like some of the top rated shows on television game

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Speaker 1: shows where they call them quiz shows back then even

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Speaker 1: to this um like masteries. They were yeah, smarts right,

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Speaker 1: there was like, um, the sixty four thousand dollar question,

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Speaker 1: That's correct, thank you. Although you wrote this a couple

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Speaker 1: of months ago, I thought I'm really sad that you

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Speaker 1: Jerry in the future, cut that part out. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to make Josh uncomfortable. Thank you. Jerry's all around

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Speaker 1: us right now. You guys, we lived on a hard

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Speaker 1: drive in Jerry's computer in the future. This is all

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Speaker 1: a simulation. So the pressure was on to make these

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Speaker 1: quiz shows as dramatic as possible, and so producers of

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Speaker 1: these quiz shows realize, hey, we can maybe manipulate these things,

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Speaker 1: will never know the difference, and they'll think it's great, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's what they did. There was this one show

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Speaker 1: Quiz Show with John Treturo and Ray finds. I guess

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Speaker 1: not it's worth seeing, worth seeing, right, um. But it's

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Speaker 1: about this actual scandal that happened in the US with

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Speaker 1: this one show called twenty one. And the whole thing

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Speaker 1: and just appealed to his ego. He said, there's this

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Speaker 1: He's like the worst stain of a human being anyone's

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Speaker 1: every scene, but you can't stop winning. In America hates

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Speaker 1: to lose ratings. You gotta help us van Doren. Van

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Speaker 1: So he gets locked into this right, But what Van

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Speaker 1: It was a scam within a scam because Herb Stemple

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Speaker 1: And Herb Stemple doesn't like this, of course, because you

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Speaker 1: would think like, all right, well, then go to the

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Speaker 1: press and expose this thing. And he did, and the

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Speaker 1: press said, you're just a sore loser. Yeah, they wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: And America's reaction was profound. You could say they had

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Speaker 1: to expressly outlaw dishonest quiz shows. Right, this is like

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Speaker 1: a very naive time in our country's history. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think of a time when, uh, game show quality

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm depressed, lest hippies, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: think Van Dorn. By the way, he was actually indicted

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Speaker 1: At one point, Mervy, Yes, I still love Jeopardy. Uh. Merv.

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Speaker 1: Griffin's wife suggested at one time that he do a

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Speaker 1: sure they're very lovely people. Actually, that's just how he

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Speaker 1: our country's greatest geniuses ever, manned by the name of

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Speaker 1: Mark Goodson, who created the greatest game show ever. The

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Speaker 1: price is right. Yes, Mark Goodson and Bill Toddman his partner.

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Speaker 1: I don't recognize him, just Mark Goodson. So all right,

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Speaker 1: you're weird, longstanding drudge against Bill Toddens. It's not so

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Speaker 1: much that it's more an idolization of Mark Goodson. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. So what Mark Goodson did he said, Okay, everybody, wait,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to give up quiz shows. What we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do is take quiz shows and make them dumber

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Speaker 1: and then we have game shows. And that's what he did.

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Speaker 1: They did away with the game, they did away with

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Speaker 1: quiz anything. They did away with um having to know

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Speaker 1: stuff can actually compete on the game. And that's when

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Speaker 1: they got really good. Yeah, that is when they got

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Speaker 1: really good, brother, you can say that again they did.

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Speaker 1: That's when it got really good. Thank you, because this

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Speaker 1: was the era that we all know and love if

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Speaker 1: anyone watches the Game show Network, when you could just

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Speaker 1: trot out drunk celebrities to spew racist and homophobic jokes

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Speaker 1: left and right. Oh yes, the good old days. Well,

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Speaker 1: hey make America great again? Right, uh oh god, it's

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Speaker 1: like crowded sea. Just someone big sea saw shreds legal.

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Speaker 1: We don't tread on me, and let's just back away

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Speaker 1: from this chuck all right, Jerry cut all that out,

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Speaker 1: uh jr. Out of here. Celebrities getting drunk, which I

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Speaker 1: big reasons are so cheap is because you save on

424
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Speaker 1: studio cost, on crew cost because they just knock them

425
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: out from like nine to five every day. Then Barker

426
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: goes home to his liner, smokes a cigar, and Space

427
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: and neuters a bunch of dogs. So, guys, I don't

428
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: know about you all, but I'm feeling pretty good about

429
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: this show. That was Actually, that wasn't a prompt for applause.

430
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: That's that's me softening the blow. Why did you sit

431
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: there and wait? And that means that we have to

432
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: put an ad break in. That's right, So if you quiet, so,

433
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: if you'll bear with us, we'll be right back after

434
00:26:36,240 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: these messages. We're right back, ma'am. Magic covented. Yes, that's

435
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: how that works. So well, pay for this show, not commercial,

436
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: and pay for commercial. I'm gonna tell my fellow militia members.

437
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: So with his seventies glood of game shows, UH comes

438
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: some of the most popular TV shows of all time

439
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: in American history. UH shows like Wheel of Fortune in

440
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: Jeopardy Prices Right, long long running shows. Wheel of Fortune

441
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: debut nine and became the longest running syndicated game showing

442
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: American television history, making Mr. Say Jack and Ms Van

443
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: White household names. Of course, and say Jack would have

444
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: held on to his spot as the longest running host

445
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: had he not made the very poor decision to stop

446
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: and have his own late night talk show That oh

447
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: Man it's so bad, Pat Say Jack show. It was

448
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: like like watching them vallium. Not like taking a value.

449
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: It's like watching a value you're not allowed to take.

450
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: That's how boring it is. I have to sit there

451
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: and look sad. Yeah, Say Jack is in a three

452
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: way race for worst late night talk show between Magic

453
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Johnson and Chevy Chates, and I can't decide which one

454
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: is worse. So, Jevy, that was bad. It was really bad.

455
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: My father raised me to despise checks, and I will

456
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: still tell you this, Pat Say Jack Show was worse

457
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: than the others. It was the worst of all. It's

458
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I would tell that to Patsy Jack's face.

459
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: And of course, who took over as the longest running

460
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: host because of Say Jack's mistake, drew back. But little

461
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: know in fact, Vannah White actually pre dates passage Jack

462
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: on Will Fortune. You guys know that she started back

463
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: in the day when Chuck Woolery still hosted. And the

464
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: first letter Vannah White ever turned on the board was

465
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: a T So if you were listening to the radio

466
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and there's like free tickets at stake, that's the answer.

467
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: That's an arcane trivia question, And I got one more

468
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: about Vannah. If you guys are okay with you? Yeah,

469
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: let's hear it. She holds the Guinness World Record for

470
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: television's most frequent clapper, with about seven and twenty claps

471
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: per episode of Wheel of Fortune, and they filmed six

472
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: of those in a day. That means she's at home

473
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the week, just recouping. It's like, don't

474
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: touch mommy's hands. Don't touch mommy's hands, says these giant

475
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: aloe plants. She just sticks her hands inside. They're like food.

476
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Move Vannah, weird, not expecting a little shop preference, I guess.

477
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: So then we move into uh, well, it's actually I forgot.

478
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: We need to get Bob Barker his two because he

479
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: actually worked from nineteen seventy two on The Prices Right

480
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: only until his grand old age of eighty three. But

481
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: he actually hosted a show before that, right, Truth or Consequences. Yeah,

482
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: what year did that start? He started hosting in nineteen

483
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: fifty four. He stopped in nineteen seventy. Sorry, he started

484
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty six. He stopped hosting that in nineteen

485
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: seventy four. He started hosting The Prices Right in nineteen

486
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: seventy two and stopped hoasting the prices right in two

487
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: thousand seven. So for fifty one, Bob Barker was a

488
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: game show host every day, well actually one day a week,

489
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. The rest of the time,

490
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: cigars and whiskey and spaying and neutering. I don't like

491
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: this picture. You're not gonna lie. He had a veterinarian

492
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: on hand, spade that one. I don't like what I

493
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: see out of that guy. He's getting humpy. Actually that

494
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: would be a neuter technically, don't email me. I know

495
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: my dog parts. So sorry, I'm so sorry. Well, you

496
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: know the comedy rule of three threes. We we're gonna

497
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: have to say that a third time, all right, keeping

498
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: your for I there's a nine chance we'll forget right.

499
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: And at the very end we'll just go good night

500
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: and then say it. But I won't say it again

501
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: because that would count. I don't want it to count.

502
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can work it in here,

503
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: so I want to see it, all right. So sorry,

504
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: So game shows started in there heyday, everybody, bear with me.

505
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Game shows started in their heyday and roll right into

506
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: the eighties, and one of the quintessential game shows of

507
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: the was something called Wind Loser Draw. Do you remember that?

508
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: It was nothing more then a game of pictionary played

509
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: by celebrities. That was it, and a fake living room

510
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: set that was how great it was. Lots of pastels, yeah,

511
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: lots of pop callers. If you look closely at every episode,

512
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: they have a magazine turned upside down that is clearly tinting.

513
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Lines of cocaine that they're doing in between like commercial breaks,

514
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: lots of Super eight, lots of Bert's. I think didn't

515
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Burt Conby host that he did? Or do I just

516
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: want him to have hosted that? He did host it?

517
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: And then Burt Reynolds was a guest on Burton Money.

518
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: They were all over that show, and poor Bert um

519
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Convy was known as Little Burt, which he was even

520
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: I think taller than Burt Reynolds was just but that

521
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: was per Burt Reynolds contract. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure

522
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: it's called the Little Burt Uh. And then Betty White.

523
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Betty White had an interesting show called Just Men exclamation

524
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Point with an actual exclamation point, and it featured nothing

525
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: but women as contestants, but they would ask celebrity men

526
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: a question and then guess whether or not they would

527
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: answer yes or no, and they could win keys potentially

528
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: to start a new car. So it was a game

529
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: show where you literally they could have called it coin

530
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: flip and just had people flipping a coin. But it

531
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: worked out because Miss Petty White was the first woman

532
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: to ever win the Daytime Emmy for Outstanding Game Show Host.

533
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: So cently people like it. She's just America's sweetheart, you know. People.

534
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: So by the time the eighties are like in their heyday,

535
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: their own heyday. Um. If you look back, a lot

536
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: of the shows that were big in the eighties had

537
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: actually started in the sixties. And the reason why is because, again,

538
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: risk Averse TV executives were like, I think of anything new,

539
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: I'll just bring out tic tech, dough and concentration, you know, Paula,

540
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: shut up, dust it off, and put it out there again.

541
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of game shows like that

542
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: and they're pretty successful. But one of the other things

543
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: that they did in the eighties was experiment with game shows, right,

544
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: so you had things like double There. Yeah, that was

545
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: a good that's okay, we owe it to you, Double There.

546
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't seen this, it is a thing

547
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: to behold. It's the weirdest game show maybe ever. There's

548
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: an obstacle course, but there's also quizzes and then teams

549
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: are our boy girl tweens working together, and there was slie.

550
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: So Double There was pretty much great on every level.

551
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Was never saw it. You never saw Double There. Now

552
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm a little sadly I'm a little too old for

553
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: doubled hair Wheelhouse. I was like, someone just boom me

554
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: for being old. I think they booed you for not

555
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: watching Double There. I was like, sixteen boo. Actually it's

556
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: a taddle for Double There. Well, here's what I was watching.

557
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I was watching Remote Control on MTV, very very good

558
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: game show. It was if you don't remember, it was

559
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: what now you would call him meta game show. Back

560
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: then you would call it a spoof hoo game shows

561
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: because host kin Ober was hosting a game show in

562
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: his parents basement. That was the set. People sat on

563
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: recliners and we get launched back through the wall if

564
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: they got a question wrong at the end. And it

565
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: was a really legit, funny game show. They had categories

566
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: like Brady Brady, Bunch of Physics, or dead or Canadian.

567
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: One of my favorite categories, and it is well known

568
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: for one thing in particular, which was launching the careers

569
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: of some now very famous people. It the very first

570
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: time that Adam Sandler was on TV was on remote control.

571
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: Same with Colin Quinn and Dennis Leary. They all got

572
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: their start in remote control. Wow, it's right. So there's

573
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: a couple of tenants of game shows that you have

574
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: to know, and the first one is that America's interest

575
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: in game shows tends to Wax and Wayne, and by

576
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: the late eighties early nineties, America was like, we're just

577
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: sick of game shows. And again, one of the reasons

578
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: why is because those executives didn't try a lot of

579
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: new stuff. They instead trotted out tic Tacto and concentration.

580
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: So America got bored with game shows and kind of

581
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: moved on, and game shows just went away almost magically.

582
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: There were two game shows, The Prices Right and Family

583
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Feud still filming during the day. Even Wheel of Fortunes

584
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: daytime show got the Acts. Wheel of Fortune got the Ax.

585
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: That's how close to extinction game shows came um And instead,

586
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: the same lazy executives gave us softcore news like Inside

587
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Edition and Extra and daytime talk like Jenny Jones and

588
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Maury Povich, and we have them to thank for that.

589
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: I have another theory, actually, that grunge killed game shows

590
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, right, because there's a quote here

591
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: from the great Mark Goodson. Apparently you're idle. He's great

592
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: at quotes too. He said, it's like a hurricane came

593
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: and wipe them all away, and that hurricane smelled like

594
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: teen Spirit. I made up that second part. They did

595
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: say hurricane. Yes, it was sort of antithetical though that

596
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: early nineties time. I'm joking about grunge, but it just

597
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: it didn't It didn't work together, you know, generation next

598
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Douglas Copeland slacking grunge, They didn't like do away with

599
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: game shows. They came in because game shows went away. Yeah,

600
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: America got sat So the other tenant of game shows

601
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: is this, you can't keep game shows down for longer

602
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: than a decade. You just can't. They're gonna come back.

603
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna jump on your back like beetlejuice or something. Right, So,

604
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: by the late nineties early two thousand's they started to

605
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: come back, and those risk averse executives started to innovate

606
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: a little more are, meaning that they started stealing good

607
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: game shows from other countries which somebody hadn't been to

608
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: to see. So they brought in Who Wants to Be

609
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: a Millionaire? Right? Yeah? I think that show came from

610
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: England if I'm not mistaken, as did The Weakest Link.

611
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Remember that show, She was Perfect, She scared me. Uh.

612
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: These had much bigger prizes. They were a little more complicated.

613
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: You had things like phoning a friend and stuff like that.

614
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: Then he had shows like Deal or No Deal, which

615
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: Josh put in he wrote this it is pretty great,

616
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: which brought America back into the clutches of Auie Mandel.

617
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: We came so close to getting away from him forever.

618
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: And then ah, it was like that time Uggs came back.

619
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: You remember that, Like ugs were around and then they

620
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: naturally just went off and died, and then all of

621
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, everybody started wearing oggs again. It was like

622
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: what happened, same with Howie Mandel. Uh. And then eventually

623
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: game shows would co opt reality shows, obviously with big

624
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: big shows like Survivor, uh, The Apprentice, The Bachelor, Um,

625
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Shark Tanker show that I actually really love, and then

626
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: a great great show called American Ninja Warrior. Okay, do

627
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: you guys like American Ninja Warrior, let me direct you

628
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: to the predecessor and frankly better, American Gladiator. That's right.

629
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: I love that too, and this is why American Gladiators

630
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: is just superior to American Ninja Warrior. American Ninja Warrior.

631
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's great, but they kind of dilute the

632
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: action a little bit. I think you could say, like

633
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: they have like b footage where like the production crew

634
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: went to the contestants hometown and talked to like their

635
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: peewee baseball coach about they used to be afraid of

636
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: the ball, but you know they really like got over

637
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: it and look at them now, and the coach that

638
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: kind of chokes up a little bit, you know. On

639
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: American Gladiator, it's more like, so Kim is out there

640
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: and she's running around getting the crapp eat out of her,

641
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: and the commentators just have this throwaway like, well, no,

642
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: in fact about Kim. She traded her house for a

643
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: car to drive herself here to compete to day, She's

644
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: not sure who's back home watching her child, look at

645
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: her go, look at lace. She just knocked her flat

646
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: unconscious with her jousting stick. That's American Gladiators. You know

647
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was great. That's what makes it superior.

648
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Here's what I liked about American Gladiator is those courses

649
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: or whatever you call them, more hard enough. Like I

650
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: remember the bicycle thing that you would have to hang from,

651
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: and that's hard enough. There's no way I could even

652
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: hang from that much less propel myself. And you get

653
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: halfway across, and then a broided out bodybuilder would leap

654
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: on you and and try and get you off, and

655
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: it's like, are you kidding me? Like the best you

656
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: could for is that he put on too much like

657
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: peck lube and would slide off eventually, couldn't get a

658
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: good grip. Peck Lube just got applause. Is your only

659
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: only hope, Pecklue. That's so big. Shout out to the

660
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: original six on American Gladiator Nitro Malibu Malibu Lace Lace

661
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: a little Baptist Chuck Lace was like I didn't know

662
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: what was going on in my body when I saw Lace.

663
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: JC Chuck like sitting in from his TV with his

664
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: knees pulled up to his chest, is rocking back and

665
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: forth like singing hymnoles. Things are happening. I like Lace.

666
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: You know who Lace was married to in real life? No, Uh,

667
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Michael Parrey actor Michael Parrey from Eddie and the Cruisers. Uh,

668
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Michael did a trivia Michael Pray is not here tonight, right?

669
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: He might be Jim and I, Zapp and Sonny the

670
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Original Six. I had us off to you, Michael Douglas.

671
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: Just show it up. And I think it also inspired

672
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: the movie The Running Man pretty clearly, if I'm not mistaken.

673
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it pre stages The Running Man

674
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: or The Running Man came out right before now. I

675
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: think Running Man. I think it came after American that here. Really,

676
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand by that. I said, No, al right,

677
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: where are we in the two thousand's we are? So

678
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: we're in like another a bit of a game show

679
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: revival right now too. And you can tell because they're

680
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: trotting out old game shows again, like Snoop Dogg hosted

681
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Joker's Wild, which, by the way, I have no problem

682
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. I think that was actually a pretty

683
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: straight move. Um Anthony Anthon Anderson's uh to tell the Truth,

684
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: I think is what he hosts. Yea and love connection.

685
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Oh is that out? Yeah? I didn't know that they

686
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: need to bring back what was the one? The dating

687
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: one not singled out? Yeah, I forgot about single that.

688
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a good one. That was a

689
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: good one. And what was the one on the what

690
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: was the one on the bus? Oh? I love cash Cab?

691
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: Can we talk about cash cab for a minute. Can

692
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: we go off script for a moment. Your cash Cab

693
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately came around when I and Josh we we worked

694
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: for Discovery Channel, so we couldn't be on cash Cab.

695
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: So I would go to New York City and walk

696
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: around looking for the cash cab just to tease yourself,

697
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: knowing that I would have to disclose that I was

698
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: actually an employee of Discovery Channel and could not be

699
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: on cash Guy, I'm contractually prohibited from getting in your

700
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: cash cab. Sorry, what are you talking about? Just get in.

701
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: It is a good show still now. I still watch reruns.

702
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it's are they not still making it? No? No? No?

703
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Is it back? All right? Well that lady says it's back,

704
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: and she looks like she knows. She's like, I know.

705
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: I like that guy. He's funny. Yeah, he's a good guy.

706
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: But it's still not the dating show I was thinking of.

707
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Were you thinking of the dating game? Now? So when

708
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: where they had the stupid pop up bubbles about what

709
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: they were thinking? No, it's not pop up video blind date,

710
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: blind date? I think it might be blind date? What

711
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: is next? Man? This show is so people are shouting,

712
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: all right, I will say this, it had to have

713
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: been blind date, because I've never heard of next. I

714
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. Blind Date was good. I

715
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: don't really remember the premise. I'm assuming it was a

716
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: blind date. But it was a good show. I remember

717
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: that much. All right, let me get us back on track. Here.

718
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: People are murmuring, like you guys are figuring out whether

719
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: to vote for a referendument of town hall or something.

720
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: Be quiet, molitia, legalize it. Uh. And then, of course,

721
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: some game shows never went away to begin with, like

722
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: Beloved Prices, Right, they just changed hosts, The Great Great

723
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Family Feud, Right. Uh? We lost Richard Dawson while he retired,

724
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: then he died, No, he retired, Ray comes came, then Richard,

725
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: then he came back, then he died, right, okay? Uh?

726
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: And then the Great Louis Anderson hosted for a little while.

727
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: Then a guy named Richard Carne who I don't know.

728
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: He was from Home Improvement. I never saw that show.

729
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: It's the most controversial thing I said all night. And

730
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: then I don't know who John oh Hurley is, j

731
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Peterman Seinfeld. I love that guy. And then the great

732
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey with his eight button suits. America has embraced

733
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Steve even though he messed up the was it miss America?

734
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: That just made him that much more than Frankly, nobody

735
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: else could have gotten away with it like he did. Agreed.

736
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: So um. As we say, game shows are very very

737
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: cheap to produce, which means you can find game shows

738
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: in every country around the world, and some countries like

739
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: just steal game shows from other countries. America does it,

740
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody does it. Really. There's a game show in France

741
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: called Live Big Deal, and it's Let's Make a Deal,

742
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: but it's hosted by an animated alien for some reason. Um.

743
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Some are franchise like The Price Is Right. It is

744
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: a huge hit in the UK. They're crazy for the

745
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: presidents right appropriately um. And then there's some countries that

746
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: just make up their own, like there's one in Russia

747
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: We consider ourselves pretty good researchers, and we are almost

748
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: a percent positive that this is actually a real show.

749
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: We've really tried to find out, like, no, this is

750
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: a joke. I think this is real. Intercept is what

751
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: it's called. And an intercept, you're contestant and they give

752
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: you a car and you drive off in the car.

753
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: They call the car stolen in real I r L.

754
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: And you are supposed to evade the police in real

755
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: life for thirty five minutes, and if you do that successfully,

756
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: you keep the car right And as far as we

757
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: can tell, it's real. And it's like, I guess that's Russia.

758
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: That's what they do in Russia. I guess if you

759
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: get killed, your next of kin gets the car. I

760
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Surely there's a winner. I think the cops

761
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: get to keep it maybe, But Russia aside, there was

762
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: one country that stands alone when it comes to game shows. Japan. Correct.

763
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: We love Japan and their dedication to making game shows

764
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: as crazy as possible, which I don't know if it

765
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: started with this one, but there was an eighties staple

766
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: it started with it, did it? Called Takeshi's Castle. This

767
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: was in the eighties in Japan, and there are fans

768
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: of the show in America in two thousand team that

769
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: shows how great the show is. Well, it changed everything, right,

770
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: Like Takeshi's Castle was, it was just nut. It was

771
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: a melee. There would be like a hundred contestants all

772
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: competing and everybody's trying to get into Takeshi's Castle. But

773
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: this is harder than you would think because they make

774
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: you dress up as a hand and slap somebody else

775
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: who's also dressed as another hand. And then at the

776
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: same time, while you're doing this, there's some other poor

777
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: schmo is like being spun around on a wheel like

778
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: twenty ft above a pond. I was flying off. There's

779
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: other people making a run for it, and there's like

780
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: like people dressed as ninja throwing like rubber throwing stars

781
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: at him. It's just chaos, and um, it just changed everything.

782
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: It gave us the first concept of the wacky Japanese

783
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: game show. Yeah. I think the best part about Takeshi's

784
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Castle was they played up the not true fact that

785
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: they were forced to be there as contestants, which just

786
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: added this extra something. I don't know why they were

787
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: they were like this is great. They were like no,

788
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: they got my family and they made me come on

789
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: this show that just really put the cherry on top

790
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know why. Sure. Then there was

791
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: another one after to Cassi's Castle. It came on in

792
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: the nineties and it was called Downtown and Nogaki no

793
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Sky and they which means, um, Downtown's not an errand boy,

794
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: which is no more sensible than the Japanese. So it

795
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: doesn't help at all. It translations Downtown is not an

796
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: errand boy, And even if you say okay, Downtown as

797
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: a person still doesn't make any camp to make any sense.

798
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: It's really strange. But this one really cemented, like because

799
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: this is when the internet came around on YouTube was around.

800
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: You could watch this all over the world and it

801
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: really really really called on and they had punishment games,

802
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: um like the Ask game where if you got something wrong,

803
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: they would have these big, sweaty sumo wrestlers rub their

804
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: butt in your face, or one called Penis Machine. And

805
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: Josh did this research and I was like, what is

806
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: that all about. Don't do that because whatever immage search

807
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: you come up with has nothing to do with the

808
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: game show at all. But Penis Machine was where you'd

809
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: have to recite a tongue twister. Uh, and if you

810
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: got it wrong then they would kick you in the

811
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: goodnight everybody. I was about to go backstage as a joke,

812
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: but I might have just stayed there, so so uh.

813
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: Based on that alone, I think this deserves a second

814
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: ad break. Okay, because this show is going really really well.

815
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: Does everybody bear with us? We will be right back.

816
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: All right, We're back everybody. Here's a little segment called

817
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: what's it like to be on a game show? Yeah,

818
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you can expect sweaty man's ass in your face if

819
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: you lose. No, that's just japan Um. If you're in

820
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: a game show, like as a kid, as a young show,

821
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be in a game show.

822
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. And then I researched this. I was like,

823
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to go anywhere near game shows. I

824
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: just want to watch him on TV. First of all,

825
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: it's tough. Like three thousand people try out for Wheel

826
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: of Fortune every year and only like five hundred make

827
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: the cut. That's it's Wheel of Fortune, right, It's just imagined.

828
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: There must be like ten people that make it on

829
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: a Jeopardy a year out of a million or something

830
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, Jeopardy stuff. I've known a few people

831
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: who have been on that, and uh, you can be

832
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: super super smart. You can pass the written tests, you

833
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: can pass the simulated games. But when you get out

834
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: there on stage and the lights are on and the

835
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: cameras are rolling, we've all felt very bad for the

836
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: people who don't make it the final Jeopardy because they

837
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: have zero dollars. That person is smarter than everyone in

838
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: this room. That's what's so sad. It is really hard.

839
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: And in fact, Kim Jennings is on our network now

840
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: with his great show Omnibus All Time Jeopardy Champion, with

841
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: his insane record of like seventy something Jeopardy wins in

842
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: a row, which is just nuts. And you know, I'm

843
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: really good friends with Kim now, and it took me

844
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: like three dinners out before I was finally like, tell

845
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: me all about it, what's it like? And he was like, man,

846
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: you gotta he got through that first part. So he

847
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: had a real big advantage for those newbies coming on

848
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: every day. But he's like, you have to have all

849
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: this knowledge at your fingertips, and then it literally comes

850
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: down to like how good you are with the buzzer

851
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: and how like Steve Lead, you can keep yourself calm

852
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: and ignore the audience and ignore everything else and kind

853
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: of lock in. It's a really, really tough game show.

854
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: But in order to try out for something like The

855
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: Prices Right, it's a much different experience. You don't have

856
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: to be super smart. You have to have a lot

857
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: of personality. You just have to like go in front

858
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: of a panel of people and like turn around slowly, right, well,

859
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: yeah to now, you don't do that, although I could

860
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: have worked in a fourth reference there. Uh. I went

861
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: to a Price Is Right taping with my sister in

862
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: the in the mid nineties, and they there's a table

863
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: like this with three producers sitting behind it as you

864
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: walk into the studio and they sit there with a

865
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: clipboard as you introduce yourself and take notes. And it's

866
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: very intimidating because I don't know if you all know

867
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: this when you go on the Prices Right in the audience,

868
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: you really don't know, like that's all real. You don't

869
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: know your name is gonna get called. I always thought

870
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: that they set you up and said, by the way,

871
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: at minute third to you whatever in round two, we're

872
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: gonna call you down there. You need to do this

873
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: and act like this. It's all for real, Like you

874
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: have no idea you're gonna get called. So when people

875
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: freak out and run down there because they had no

876
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: idea they were going to get called down on stage.

877
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: But I did not get called. I didn't have what

878
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: it takes. But you sat behind like the people who

879
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: have been contestants, right, yeah, we were. We were positioned

880
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: up where they had two empty rows. And when you

881
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: were finished playing the games, they don't. You don't go

882
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: back to your seat. You go to this little area.

883
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: And this, uh, this Harley Davidson biker guy won a

884
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: car and came down and sat next to us and

885
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: started crying. And I was like, sir, I was like,

886
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: what's it like, tell me what's going on. And he

887
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: said that he lost his job because he didn't have

888
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: a car to get him to work and that this

889
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: changed his life. And I look over and he's crying,

890
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: and my sisters crying, and I'm crying, and Bob like,

891
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: newter a dog. It sounds like a punishment now it does.

892
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: It is for the dog. Highly recommended, though, if you

893
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: ever have a chance, go to go to a prices

894
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: right taping. It's a lot of fun. It's a good story,

895
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: by the way, Well that's all right. It would have

896
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: been better if I would have you know, want a

897
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: jet ski. Yeah. So, as thrilling as you think it

898
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: might be to be on a game show, it's actually supposedly,

899
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: from what we can tell, super boring. There's a lot

900
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: of waiting around. Remember they film five or six episodes

901
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: in a day, so if you're scheduled to be on

902
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth episode, you're just sitting there. But

903
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: it's not like you can wander around and bug like

904
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Alex Trebeka or anything. Because remember Congress got involved after

905
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: the quiz show scandals, and the FCC still regulates game

906
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: shows like a hawk. Like if you go to the bathroom,

907
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: you have an escort and there's like FCC compliance officers

908
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: take away your cell phone. Can you imagine standing around

909
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: for ten hours without a cell phone? Not just these

910
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: days take it away, they break it under the heel,

911
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: and they're like federal law. So there's a lot of

912
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: sitting around. There's a lot of compliance that you have

913
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: to do. There's a lot of rules you have to learn,

914
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons why, um, they watch you

915
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: like a hawkers because people have been known to um

916
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: collude with people in the audience. Like there was this

917
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: guy in the UK who won a million pounds on

918
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: who Wants to be a Millionaire? It is it's way

919
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: more than a million dollar prize, like I don't know

920
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: how much, but a lot, just trust me. And he won.

921
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: His name is Charles Ingram, and he won because he

922
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: was talking to his wife and his wife was going

923
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: and talking to somebody in the audience. And this is

924
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: the scheme they came up with, Charles Ingram, you know,

925
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: who wants to be a Millionaire's basically multiple choice. There's

926
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: like four possible answers. He would read them out loud

927
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: to himself, but when he read the correct one, the

928
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: guy in the audience will go right. Very sophisticated system.

929
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: They got away with it like they want. They like,

930
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: the producers are like you congratulations. And they made it home.

931
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: And finally, because he apparently was acting KG in the

932
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: in the green room. Afterward, they went back and looked

933
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: at the tape and discovered the fraud and they actually

934
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: went to court in the UK. They went to court.

935
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: He and his wife did Uh. And we're find a

936
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand pounds and didn't get a dime

937
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: of the million pounds prize. Has some kind of wig

938
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: said a hundred and fifteen thousand pounds right, And you

939
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: would think, okay, justice was justice was served? Right? No,

940
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't, because Charles Ingram and his wife went on

941
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: to write a book about the whole thing and it

942
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: grows two and a half million pounds. Yep. And we

943
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: have a couple of new sayings. Now if you remember

944
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: from dB Cooper, never trust family and now cheating always pays.

945
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: So those are the two tenants of stuff you should know,

946
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: one across these knuckles and one across the other knuckles. Uh,

947
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: you want to bring it home? Yeah, let's let's talk

948
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: about a guy named Michael Larson. Yes, Michael Larson. There's

949
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: a couple of knowing nods out there. Anyone know the

950
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: game show Press Your Luck. That was the point of

951
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: pressure luck, not to get away Ammy. Yeah. So who

952
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: was Michael Larson? So Michael Larson was this guy. He

953
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: was a contestant eventually on Pressure Luck, but he started

954
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: out as a semi employed ice cream truck driver. Let

955
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: that sink in for a Yeah, you're really really reaching

956
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: for the stars. You're like, no, I don't want to

957
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: do that full time, but keep my option open. His

958
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: the time when he wasn't running the ice cream truck

959
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: was allotted instead to staring at his wall of TVs

960
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: in his house, um running off of his VCR, because

961
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: he would take game shows and watch them up to

962
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: eighteen hours a day in the hopes of finding some

963
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: weakness that he could exploit go onto the game show

964
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: and crack it and win a million dollars. Right, And

965
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: he figured out pretty quick the price is right, there's

966
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: no there's no flaw to it. Same with Wheel of Fortune.

967
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: It's just kind of luck. Right. Yeah. And then CBS, Yes,

968
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: CBS aired a brand new game show build is the

969
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: most technologically advanced game show ever and it was called

970
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: Press Your Luck. And Michael Larson said, I'm gonna get

971
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: you game show. He said about the getting a pressure luck. Yeah,

972
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: so here, what's the deal with pressure Luck? It had

973
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: three just regular contestants who would answer questions and then

974
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: at the end of each round, whoever was in the lead,

975
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: we get to press their luck. And there was a

976
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: big board with a bunch of individual squares that would

977
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: light up, like that's a good pressure luck. You would

978
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: press your luck and say stop. We didn't have to

979
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: say stopped, but most people did, and it would stop

980
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: on whatever square and you might win five dollars, or

981
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: you might win a little prize, or you might get

982
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: a whammy, which is really bad because that means you

983
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: lose everything that you had one up into that point.

984
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: Or you might get a free spin plus cash. So

985
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: if you get like two or three spins in a row,

986
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: it was a really big deal, and you could press

987
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: your luck and then get that whammy. And it was

988
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: this little jerk annoid looking thing. It's a little cartoon

989
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: character with a cape that would go and you lose

990
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: everything that you had made. So you're really if you

991
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: press your lucky, you were really risking a lot by

992
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: moving forward, right, And it was very tough because not

993
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: only did the light flash around the board, the squares

994
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: themselves change, so it was just like chaos, your brains

995
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: going haywire, and you go stop and just hope for

996
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: the best. Well, Michael Larson would take press your Luck

997
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: and again watch individual episodes eighteen hours straight, just looking

998
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: trying to find something sitting around and just as whitey

999
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: tidies like an ice cream sandwich melted on his chest.

1000
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: And finally one day he sowed and he must have

1001
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: stood up tear matted, sticky, and he probably went got

1002
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: he's got a chocout taco on his chest. And what

1003
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: he figured out was that that light and those boards

1004
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: they weren't random at all. There were five patterns. And

1005
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: not only were they five, were there five patterns they

1006
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: repeated in order. All he had to do was hone

1007
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: is timing and getting the light to stop, memorize where

1008
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: the boxes were, and he would crack pressure luck And

1009
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: that's exactly what he did. I'm trying to think of

1010
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: that moment at for a m in his bark a lounger,

1011
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: when he realizes that it's a pattern, Like what that

1012
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: must have been like, Like he's like, my life is vindicated. Yeah,

1013
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: everyone said I was a loser, but I'm not, so

1014
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: just disregard the chacout taco on my chest. I'm no loser.

1015
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: He bought a bus ticket from since Senata to l A,

1016
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: and I bought a suit from a vintage thrift store

1017
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: and actually managed to become a contestant. Unpress your luck

1018
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: on May nineteen, he came in last in the question round.

1019
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: But he's still because you know, he was Michael Larson.

1020
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: But he still gets suppressed his luck. And the very

1021
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: first thing that happens is he gets a whammy because

1022
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: you can practice all you want on the arm of

1023
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: your recliner, but on the day, as they say in

1024
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: the in the industry, that little buzzer may not match

1025
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: up quite right. So he had to he had to

1026
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: get synchronized. He did, and boy did he he did,

1027
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: because after that, on his next spin, he locked into

1028
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: thirty one consecutive spins. This had never happened before, nothing

1029
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: even remotely close. Two or three in a row is amazing.

1030
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: Before you were on fire, this guy got thirty one

1031
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: consecutive spins. Overall, he got forty Evan in the half

1032
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: hour show that he was on. The other two contested

1033
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: to sat back and one guy pulled out like a

1034
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: corn cob pipe and read the paper. I mean like

1035
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: it was the Larsen Show, right, And just little by

1036
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: little he starts building his money. A few hundred bucks here,

1037
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: dred and another spin there, and he just kept hitting him. Yeah,

1038
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: and keep in mind, at any point he could have

1039
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: lost it all, and so there's a lot of real

1040
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: tension building in this thing as he gets more and

1041
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: more money because he has to say I want to

1042
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: press my luck. Everyone's like, you're crazy, dude. You got

1043
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. But he worked it all the way up

1044
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: into a record at the time hundred and ten thousand,

1045
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven dollars, which is more money

1046
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: than had ever been one on an American game show. Yeah,

1047
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: the previous record was forty dollars. This guy just crushed

1048
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: that record. And you can actually see this. There's somebody

1049
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: under the trouble of making a compilation. It's like eleven

1050
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: minutes long. It's the best thing you can watch. It's

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Speaker 1: quite thrilling. It's on YouTube. I think it's just Michael

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Speaker 1: Larson press your luck should be the first thing that

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Speaker 1: comes up. And when you watch it, you see Michael

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Speaker 1: Larson really pressed his luck and he won. He won

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Speaker 1: the game, and the CBS executives are just standing there

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: watching this like having heart attacks, left and riot, getting fired,

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: fired each other, firing themselves, just having a terrible time

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Speaker 1: of it. But in the end they paid Larson. They

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Speaker 1: said he didn't cheat, he was smarter than CBS. I

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Speaker 1: think one of the executives said these air quotes though,

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Speaker 1: So we paid him, so he won Press your luck.

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Speaker 1: But it's not the end of the Michael Larson story. No.

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Speaker 1: So he's sitting at home a few months later eating

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Speaker 1: his push up and a local radio station was running

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Speaker 1: a contest. It was only two ice cream truck things

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Speaker 1: I can think of. Chock out tacos and butch ups

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: are good enough. Yeah, you know what the worst was

1068
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: was that rainbow popsicle thing. You those are the worst?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? You like those? Yes? Really? The

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: bomb Pop, the Red, white and Blue pop or the

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Speaker 1: rocket pop to Patriot Country, those are great. I had

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Speaker 1: no ice creaming, and I was all about the ice Okay, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't like a bomb pop that's what they were calling.

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Speaker 1: Or rocket pops one of the two popper Rocket Pop.

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Speaker 1: You've got a strong reaction, So I guess I'm the dummy.

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Speaker 1: Some people recoiled in horror. All right, So Michael Larson

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: sitting at home meeting is rocket pop and a radio

1078
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: station DJ comes on and says, we have a new

1079
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: contest and we're going to read out serial numbers on

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Speaker 1: dollar bills, and if you have that dollar bill, you

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Speaker 1: in fifty thousand dollars I'm sorry, thirty And Michael Larson said,

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01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: I got a lot of dollar bills. So he went

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: to the bank and withdrew nine thousand i'm sorry fifty

1084
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: dollar bills from the bank bills. So he was the

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Speaker 1: joy of the bank that day. But but wait, wait,

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: let's think about this for a second. You can withdraw

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: those all day long. You're not gonna know the serial

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Speaker 1: number unless you sit there and start memorizing them. And

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Speaker 1: that's what he did, yep. Instead of watching games shows,

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Speaker 1: he sat around and memorized the serial numbers for the

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Speaker 1: dollar bills that he had in his house. And a

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: few months went by, the contest was ended and he

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01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: didn't win. But that's still not the end of the

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01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Michael Larson's story. Now, that's right, because he never took

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Speaker 1: that money back to the bank. Because he's Michael Larson.

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: I can only imagine if this guy would have worked

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01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: for a living, right, we would have a cure for

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: cancer today. We'd all be living to like a hundred

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: and fifty things. It would be great. But no, he

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01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: left that fifty grand at home and on the Christmas

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Speaker 1: he went to a party with his girlfriend, into a

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Speaker 1: Christmas party, came home and found his door kicked in

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: and the money was gone. Merry Christmas. Yep. And they

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Speaker 1: never found the money, they never found the person who

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01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: stole it, and Michael Arson eventually died of cancer in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine, while on the lamb from the FBI

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Speaker 1: and the i R S for his part in a

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Speaker 1: foreign lottery scam. To the bitter end, still trying to

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Speaker 1: make that easy money. Uh and finally, uh, just about

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Speaker 1: eight or nine years ago, plans to make a movie

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Speaker 1: of his life story starring Bill Murray. Dude, that would

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Speaker 1: have been so good. We're finally scrapped. I'm no very sad,

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Speaker 1: but his story lives on tonight here in Denver, Colorado.

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