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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 3: York Football Giants. Thanks so much for being with us

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Speaker 3: every year. Around this time. We're joined by this guest.

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Speaker 3: His name is Warren Sharp. You can check him out

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Speaker 3: on his website at Sharp Footballanalysis dot com. He just

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Speaker 3: released his twenty twenty three football preview. He's the one

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Speaker 3: and only Warren Sharp. Warren, how are you, man?

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Speaker 1: I'm do great, John, certainly happy to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: After a great season for you guys last year, exceeding expectations,

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Speaker 1: sort of expect I was sort of hoping that you

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Speaker 1: would get there. I was really satisfied and happy that

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Speaker 1: you did this year, totally new season, though a lot

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Speaker 1: of things stacking up against you, guys. I certainly looking

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Speaker 1: forward to breaking it down with you here for the

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Speaker 1: next half hour.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and guys, the book's great, go check it out.

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Speaker 3: These are the giant pages you see, charts, colors, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: lot of good information. If you're into fantasy, maybe some

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Speaker 3: other extracurricular activities. If you're just a big football fan,

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Speaker 3: make sure you go check that out. And I'm going

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Speaker 3: to talk about a lot of the notes in there

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Speaker 3: about the Giants on this show here, Warren and I

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Speaker 3: think a good place to start as context, right, because

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Speaker 3: we talked this time last year and some of the

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Speaker 3: things the Giants did poorly the last couple of seasons,

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Speaker 3: you predicted they would do better under Brian Dable and

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Speaker 3: lo and behold.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with the first.

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Speaker 3: Big one that you brought up on this show last

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Speaker 3: years that something Brian Dable did well in Buffalo and

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Speaker 3: he did well this year, and it checked the box

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Speaker 3: for you, avoiding third downs. So talk about the importance

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Speaker 3: of that and how the Giants pulled that off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, modern football, with the way that the rules are constructed,

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Speaker 1: there needs to be a solid balance between third down

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Speaker 1: a little bit of both, but it's vital to be

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Speaker 1: on early downs on first and second down. Get that

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Speaker 1: new setus Chain's moved. Do not get forced into third

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Speaker 1: down and prior to Like I was discussing last year,

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Speaker 1: not only was your prior coaching staff just terribly inept

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Speaker 1: it is, and there we're more than happy to play

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Speaker 1: in a third and short situation. And that's the only

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Speaker 1: trying to make that a priority. Day ball comes in

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Speaker 1: cropping up. You know, this elite group of receivers like

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Speaker 1: The way that that Giants offense improved on early downs

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the.

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Speaker 1: Things that I think is going to be a little

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, you got more out of Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: and the Giants were doing that more last year. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: But because the.

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Speaker 1: Run game was a little bit better and he scrambled

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Speaker 3: And we are going to dig into some of those

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Speaker 3: that found interesting. Usually when you see early down success,

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Speaker 3: a lot of that comes on play action, but that

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Speaker 3: actually wasn't the case for the Giants last year, right.

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Speaker 3: You more kind of marked that down as one of

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Speaker 3: those areas that you think they can improve on on

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, there are a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: he was not very efficient when utilizing play action, and

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Speaker 1: Can we do anything to help improve that at all?

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Speaker 1: Do we want more shotgun play action, under center play

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Speaker 1: what was going on with our play action game last year?

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Speaker 3: Three, Dan, I think on your numbers, I don't have

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Speaker 3: it in your Giant section. Their EPA per play for

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Speaker 2: Usually play action passes are much more efficient, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no doubt about it, and you're correct. They used

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Speaker 1: and the play action dropbacks ended up taking longer. Some

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Speaker 1: and so the pressure rate on Daniel Jones increased from

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Speaker 1: tenth highest usage rate. So is there all things that

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Speaker 1: easy as possible, stay ahead of the six. We don't

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Speaker 1: need all these crazy things until we do need one,

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Speaker 1: not designing the offense to draw those out more frequently

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Speaker 1: than is necessary. And so that's what Kafka and Dave

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Speaker 1: Ball did with Daniel Jones has tried to make life

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Speaker 1: as easy for him as possible inside the red zone

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Speaker 1: and it really worked. And that's why this team's red

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Speaker 1: zone efficiency increased dramatically and they ranked number seven in

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Speaker 1: red zone conversion rate and number six in goal to

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Speaker 1: go efficiency last year, after ranking number thirty two in

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Speaker 1: red zone efficiency in twenty twenty one and twenty one

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Speaker 1: in goal to go go a goal to go efficiency

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Speaker 1: and on a per play basis, which is I think

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Speaker 1: what every single Giants finn could not believe when I

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Speaker 1: tweeted this out earlier this offseason. I couldn't believe it either,

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Speaker 1: but they had the number one most efficient offense on

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Speaker 1: a per play basis, whether you look at success rate

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Speaker 1: EPA per play or passing success rate, the number one

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Speaker 1: across all three of those metrics when they were inside

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Speaker 1: the red zone on a per play basis, So just

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Speaker 1: night and day difference. And once again, this is coaching.

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Speaker 1: They didn't bring in a ton of new personnel and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you get this great red

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Speaker 1: zone threat or this number one alpha wide receiver who's

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Speaker 1: going to draw a bunch of coverage. They didn't bring

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Speaker 1: in a new bruising running back or completely change we're

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Speaker 1: going to use more twenty one personnel and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: like they didn't do any of that. It's just calling

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Speaker 1: more efficient plays, having a plan when you get into

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Speaker 1: the red zone, making life easy for your quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: so I don't see any of that changing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not like this thing. These things were a fluke.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you go, they were number thirty two

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Speaker 1: red zone offense the prior couple of years and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden go up to what number seven last year.

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Speaker 1: But they were on a per play basis, they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty sixth or twenty seventh and just happened

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Speaker 1: to get lucky and good and score touchdowns in some

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Speaker 1: of these plays. Like on a per play basis, they

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Speaker 1: were the best in the NFL. They were top ten

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Speaker 1: in conversion rate. This stuff is here to stay. As

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Speaker 1: long as this staff is here, you can expect a

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Speaker 1: more efficient Now are they going to be number one?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, Will they be top ten? I'd like to

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Speaker 1: believe that that's possible. And so as a result, and

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Speaker 1: this team just needs to get down into the red

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Speaker 1: zone more frequently and I think the points will follow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted one more follow up on the red

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Speaker 3: zone stuff, Warren, because the run game gets no love

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Speaker 3: anymore the Giants and Seguon Barkley's back, he's on the

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Speaker 3: one year deal. The success they had running with the

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Speaker 3: running back in the red zone and just their efficiency

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Speaker 3: doing that also really moved the needle for them, right,

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Speaker 3: that was a huge deal for them, where they just

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Speaker 3: ran the ball effectively inside the twenty yard line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they absolutely inside the twenty yard line. Had one

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Speaker 1: of the most efficient rushing attacks in the NFL. They're rushing,

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Speaker 1: they had these their running backs themselves had the NFL's

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Speaker 1: second best red zone success rate in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: They ranked thirtieth. Again, we're still talking Saquon Barkley here,

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Speaker 1: but they went from thirtieth in success rate all the

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Speaker 1: way to number two in success rate night and day

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Speaker 1: different just totally overhauled the efficiency that they were getting

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Speaker 1: out of the run game. And so this is this

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Speaker 1: is part of the reason why Daniel Jones only threw

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Speaker 1: fifteen touchdown passes despite starting sixteen games. Is like, well,

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Speaker 1: how's the only throwing while they were running the ball

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Speaker 1: very effectively when they were down inside of the red zone.

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Speaker 1: But no doubt about it, Like that is an area

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Speaker 1: of the football field where you do want to run.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of running when it is most

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Speaker 1: efficient to do so because buying large passes are going

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Speaker 1: to be better in most areas of the field, But

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Speaker 1: the places that we find runs to be the most

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Speaker 1: successful are inside the red zone and in short yardage.

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Speaker 1: And inside the red zone just makes sense because the

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Speaker 1: space is combined, it's harder to have. You can't have

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Speaker 1: deeper pass routes developed. So the defense knows that there's

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Speaker 1: only these types of routes that can be coming from

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Speaker 1: a passing perspective, they can sit down on it, they

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Speaker 1: can play a little bit more man, they can blitz

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Speaker 1: more frequently, cause more trouble. And as a result, if

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Speaker 1: you use like eleven personnel and spread the defense more,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these run lanes open up and

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Speaker 1: it becomes more advantageous to run the football down inside

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Speaker 1: of the red zone and in short yardage situations. The

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Speaker 1: Giants understood this from a coaching staff perspective, and then

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Speaker 1: the backs like Barkley, executed it extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Do more on the offense one, and then we'll do defense,

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Speaker 3: and we'll do the change in strength of schedule offense

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Speaker 3: defense two. At the end running game, you talked about

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Speaker 3: maybe using the running backs more and running them more

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Speaker 3: out of lighter personnel groups rather than heavy and then

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Speaker 3: throw down Waller into the who might open up some

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Speaker 3: twelve personnel potential packages for the Giants too. So how

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Speaker 3: do you see them utilizing their personal best in terms

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Speaker 3: of their personnel groupings this year to maximize their offensive efficiency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Darren Waller is going to be a

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Speaker 1: big deal for the Giants because if you talk to anybody,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know this and some of the hardcore Giants

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Speaker 1: fans know this as well. But there was a big

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Speaker 1: difference when Daniel Bellinger was injured and miss some time,

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Speaker 1: like this team was better even though Bellinger wasn't a

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Speaker 1: highly drafted tight end. And what wasn't like overly putting

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Speaker 1: up big numbers, just the ability to have him out

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Speaker 1: there to catch some balls, to do what this offense

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Speaker 1: needed him to do as a tight end. That was big.

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Speaker 1: That was helpful for him for the team. When he

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Speaker 1: went down, it did hurt this offense. And I think

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Speaker 1: now that you've got Waller in there, and now you

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Speaker 1: can actually utilize a little bit more twelve and be

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Speaker 1: dangerous out of twelve. Like this team is going to

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Speaker 1: be more efficient with Waller there. We know tight end.

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Speaker 1: I did some studies, wrote about it this offseason. The

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Speaker 1: most efficient in general personnel that any team can use

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Speaker 1: that league wide is trending more in favor of twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the answer to when defenses decided to

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Speaker 1: go play this too high shell, there's no better position

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Speaker 1: to target against two icell than tight ends. And as

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Speaker 1: a result, they were going to see twelve personnel become

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Speaker 1: more efficient and it has I think that the Giants

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Speaker 1: have the ability with Waller to play more twelve. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels made a huge mistake last year. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea why he did not use more twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas with the Raiders, it made total sense

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Speaker 1: with Foster Bureau and Darren Waller, and you had Davante

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Speaker 1: Adams and Haunter. Renfro like, it's a perfect package to

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Speaker 1: utilize twelve personnel, but for whatever reason, he used among

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Speaker 1: the league's lowest rates of twelve personnel, just kept trotting

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Speaker 1: out eleven. I think the Giants are going to be

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Speaker 1: smart enough to utilize Waller in some twelve personnel sets

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Speaker 1: and crank that up a little bit more, And as

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Speaker 1: a result, I think this offense can be even more

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Speaker 1: dangerous and be more multiple and give defenses more headaches

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Speaker 1: and problems. Pre snap to try to figure out matchups

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Speaker 1: based upon where you motion guys or where you split

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Speaker 1: guys out by having a second tight end out on

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: All right, Warren the last one on the offense here,

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Speaker 3: What are areas you would pinpoint specifically for improvement in

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Speaker 3: terms of efficiency or just areas that you would like

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Speaker 3: to see Daniel Jones make a jump in the passing

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Speaker 3: game between the twenties. You talked about the red zone,

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Speaker 3: how much the running held, but I think we all

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Speaker 3: want to see a more explosive, efficient passing game between

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Speaker 3: the twenties. What are some of the areas where you

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Speaker 3: think you can really take a jump and improve in

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Speaker 3: those areas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the unfortunate part about I think for

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators, I don't know what they're going to do,

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Speaker 1: but my suspicion would be they're going to study the

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Speaker 1: way that this offense operated, you know, last season, and

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Speaker 1: what they're going to find is a very low at

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Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones. They're gonna find shorter passes, that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, completion rates are allowed to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit better, and they're gonna devise a defense to try

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Speaker 1: to make those plays even less efficient than they were

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Speaker 1: last year, and they weren't very efficient. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: need answers to that when defense is squat on some

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Speaker 1: of these routes or play closer coverage, we're gonna need

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Speaker 1: answers that push the ball a little bit further down

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Speaker 1: the field. Now, there's multiple ways to get explosive plays.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to throw the ball twenty yards down

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Speaker 1: the field to gain twenty yards on a play. But

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Speaker 1: we are going to need not just more explosive offense,

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Speaker 1: which we discussed before, but we're going to need an

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Speaker 1: offense that has answers when defenses are trying to take

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Speaker 1: away the underneath stuff. Daniel Jones needs to improve in

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Speaker 1: that area. The offense is to improve from a pressure perspective,

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Speaker 1: Jones needs to improve and they need to give him

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Speaker 1: more answers when he does get pressured or when they

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Speaker 1: when he feels that pressure coming. What should he be

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Speaker 1: doing to try to make offense efficient even when it

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Speaker 1: does allow pressure, Because you know, the offensive line is

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Speaker 1: a slight bit better maybe and maybe they stay a

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Speaker 1: little bit healthier, but this is not like the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line that Daniel Zone is going to be

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Speaker 1: playing behind, So they are going to have to deal

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Speaker 1: with pressure. They need to predict it and anticipate it.

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Speaker 1: So I mean more explosive offense down the field to

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Speaker 1: generate more explosive plays, better ability to deal with pressure,

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Speaker 1: and the ability to kind of have more efficiency throwing

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Speaker 1: the football in that intermediate area. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be something that is vital this upcoming season once

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Speaker 1: defenses study what Kafka and day Ball were doing last

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Speaker 1: year and make those adjustments.

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite parts about reading your you know

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Speaker 3: excerpts for each team each year in your football preview

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Speaker 3: is seeing how strength of schedule changes from year to

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Speaker 3: year because matchups and opponents is so important for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking at the difficulty of the Giants schedule

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Speaker 3: for their passing offense, and according to your projections, the

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Speaker 3: Giants face the toughest schedule of opposing past defenses is

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Speaker 3: in the NFL in twenty twenty three. So maybe improving

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Speaker 3: on some of the stuff might be a little bit

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Speaker 3: more difficult than the Giants and players and coaches might prefer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the problem. When you do well and

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Speaker 1: you overachieve I mean, they still only finished in third

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Speaker 1: place in their division. But the schedule in general is

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Speaker 1: just so difficult of opponents that playing this year that

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Speaker 1: it hurts their defense big time. And is why I

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Speaker 1: think it's unrealistic to have super high expectations and expect

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Speaker 1: this staff to be able to take a relatively similar

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Speaker 1: team with a few upgrades and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: get it back to the playoffs and take that next

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Speaker 1: step like every team, every fan rather would like to

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Speaker 1: see the Giants. Okay, last year we made the wildcard.

660
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: This year, we need to make the division round. You know,

661
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: like maybe the conference championships are too much to ask for,

662
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Let's at least make the division round. Now, the NFC

663
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: in general is weaker, and I'm not ruling out that

664
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Speaker 1: you couldn't take the next step, but you play the

665
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Speaker 1: number one toughest schedule of defenses, which includes the number

666
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Speaker 1: one toughest schedule of past defenses. It is the second

667
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: largest increase in scheduled difficulty for any team for any

668
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL this year. And if you just

669
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Speaker 1: look at like some of these teams we're talking about,

670
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Jets, the Bills, the forty nine,

671
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: the Packers, the Saints, and the Eagles all had top

672
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: ten pass defenses last year. And you play all of

673
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: those teams, some of them multiple times. So yeah, so

674
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy for this passing attack whatsoever.

675
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: And mind you, when we're talking about the Cowboys or

676
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, or the Jets or the Eagles,

677
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: we're not just talking about they're good defending the pass,

678
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: like good secondaries and good cornerback play. We're talking about

679
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: they also have great pass rushes too, and that makes

680
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: life very difficult for quarterbacks and very difficult for offenses

681
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: to go up with answers and game plans for how

682
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: to attack them when they can both get after the

683
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and play coverage behind it and do equally well.

684
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Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, the second most difficult increase

685
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: year over year. And now you're playing the number one

686
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Speaker 1: toughest schedule, whereas last year I think you played nineteenth

687
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: toughest pass defenses. Now you're number one toughest. You got

688
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: your work cutout for you for sure.

689
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Warren, let's talk about the defense quickly before

690
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: we say goodbye. It is this is no different on

691
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: the other side, right, the schedules for the defenses are

692
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 3: a lot tougher. I mean, I'll just keep it simple

693
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: for Giant fans, And I've said this before on our

694
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: other shows. I'm sure they're tired of hearing me saying it.

695
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: Just look at the quarterbacks in the AFC East and

696
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 3: look at the quarterbacks in the AFC South and compare

697
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 3: Josh a, Josh Allen, Aaron Watt Rodgers, the passing attack

698
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: of the Dolphins Matt Jones to what was in the

699
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: AFC South last year.

700
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Speaker 2: And it's night and day. So this defense is gonna

701
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: have a much tougher road this year as well.

702
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: No, they will. And one of the problems I think

703
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball is you guys

704
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: were so good on some of the key areas that

705
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: are less likely to be repeatable.

706
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 3: Situation on football. Last year was off the charts good

707
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: for the Giants team.

708
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Off the charts, ridiculously great. I mean, third down defense,

709
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: red zone defense number four and third down number eight

710
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: inside the red zone. You guys were elite in both

711
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: of those areas. These things tend to regress a little bit.

712
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: Now.

713
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Wink does operate a very unique defense, and as a result,

714
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: maybe there's the chance, like you can cross your fingers

715
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: and hope that there's a chance that some of this

716
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: stuff is a little bit more repeatable because he has

717
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: this unique scheme that might be able to do things

718
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: on third downs to opposing quarterbacks that many other teams

719
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: don't have the ability to do. But expecting both of

720
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: those units third down and red zone to rank eighth

721
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: or better this year is probably very unlikely, especially against

722
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: the schedule that you just mentioned, where you were playing

723
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth rank schedule last year of opposing offenses.

724
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I now have you pegged for the sixteenth most difficult,

725
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: so a league average, But in reality it could be

726
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: even better than that, because I don't think the Patriots

727
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: are going to be worse than they were last year,

728
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: and not that they have an actual offensive coordinator. The

729
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Jets offense is obviously going to be significantly better this year.

730
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Tua is going to be there. Hopefully he's healthy. For

731
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: your sake, I know, like you would love to be

732
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: able to play backups.

733
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: We want everyone healthy war and we want everyone we can.

734
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: We can't root for playing backups here. Tua, if he's healthy,

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: is going to be more difficult than the backups that

736
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were bringing to the table last year. And

737
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: then you talk about the NFC West, and I know

738
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you've got like Kyler Murray and Matthew Stafford and how

739
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: good are those guys and what's brock Purty actually going

740
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: to be and all these question marks surrounding them, And

741
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm really down on the forty nine. Sorry on the

742
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: Raiders this year. I don't think Jimmy g is very

743
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: good fit whatsoever with what Josh mcganos wants to do

744
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: and the way that he was using Derek Carr last year.

745
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: I think there could be some big time problems out

746
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. But by and large, you were playing

747
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: a much more difficult schedule on the defensive side of

748
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: the ball. So once again, like you're gonna need more

749
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: things to go your way, and I already feel like

750
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: last year, so many things did ultimately go your way

751
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: in terms of like some of the performances in close games.

752
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: You're what like, you had an above average rate in

753
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: performance in close games, you were positive turnover margin, your

754
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: positive and penalty margin. There were just a lot of

755
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: different factors that went your way last season that we

756
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: can't necessarily bank on all of these things going your

757
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: way this upcoming year. You were number six than field

758
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: goal luck, which basically measures how good you are at

759
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: exceeding expectations with the kicks that your kicker is making.

760
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: That might be a little bit more repeatable if you

761
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: have a kicker that you have faith in, But you

762
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: were also very good at the opposed opponents that you

763
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: were facing. They were missing far more kicks than they

764
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: should have based on the average distance that those kicks

765
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: were to rank top six and field goal luck, like

766
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: that's going to change dramatically every single year based upon

767
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: who you're playing. So a lot went your way last

768
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: year for you to get to where you were. Things

769
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: are more stacked against you this year. I just think

770
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Speaker 1: it's going to be tough to get back to where

771
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: you were last year. And I think the coaching staff

772
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: might call plays better this year. You might do better

773
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: earlier on in games. Daniel Jones might actually play better

774
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: because I was a little bit down on how he

775
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: played last year. All of those things could happen, but

776
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: yet you might not make the playoffs. And I'm just

777
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: throwing that out there as a warning that like Giants,

778
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: fans shouldn't get down on this team or the staff

779
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: or the players if they don't make the playoffs. If

780
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: they're actually playing better football this year, it's just things

781
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: are so stacked up against him right now.

782
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a legitimate chance that they could be a

783
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: better team, play better football, and have a worse record,

784
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: and that is very legitimately possible, one hundred percent. Final question, Warren,

785
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: I'm curious to get your opinion on Wink Martinzell's defense

786
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: because you study all these metrics, how the way you

787
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: play defense affects what it looks like on the field

788
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: and some of the statistical profiles. What are some of

789
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: the quirks or results of playing the type of defense

790
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: that Wink does with so much blitzing, so much man,

791
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: so much aggression. It really going against the grain of

792
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: all these two deep defenses we're seeing around the NFL.

793
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: How does that type of style impact the numbers when

794
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: you take a look at them and aggregate at the

795
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: end of the year.

796
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: It does play a role. Because I am a firm

797
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: believer and I don't care like it doesn't really matter

798
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: whether your offense defense, what side of the ball we're

799
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: talking about. If you do something different and you do

800
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: it well, that is going to create edges for your team.

801
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: And so the fact that he plays so much more

802
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: man and blitzes at such a high rate, as long

803
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: as he's not terrible at those things, which is not

804
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: cause which is not will cause problems for opposing teams,

805
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: and opposing like they're gonna have to figure out, Okay,

806
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: this game plan is totally different than what we've been

807
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: doing for the last four weeks. Now we have to

808
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: change up because this defensive coordinator plays defense this way,

809
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: and now it's going to create more stress on this

810
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: side of line, that side of the line than we

811
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: were having to deal with for you know, the vast

812
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: majority of the field. Or now instead of just on

813
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: third downs, we're gonna be dealing with this on first

814
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: down and second down. So you know, offenses have gotten

815
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: more used to defenses playing this too deep shell over

816
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: eighty yards of the field. And then when you get

817
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: down into the red zone, teams do play more man still,

818
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: so they're used to a man down there. But like

819
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Wink's style is able to throw teams off, and now

820
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: he's got two years to practice it. Like I'll just

821
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: tell you I'm super excited for a guy like Vic

822
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Fangio to go to the Miami Dolphins. I think he's

823
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna help that defense immensely. But I went back and

824
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: looked at and I think the Dolphins are going to

825
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: have a good team this year, and they're gonna have

826
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: a good defense. So I'm not saying they're gonna be terrible.

827
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is that I went back

828
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: and I looked at Vic Fangio, because he's been to

829
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: a few different teams in his career. What is his

830
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: defense like that very first year versus what is it

831
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: like year two and year three? And there was improvement

832
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: every single stop that he made after that first year,

833
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: whether it came in year two immediately or it started

834
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: to develop in later half a year two and into

835
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: year three. I'm saying that to say that I think

836
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Speaker 1: Wink Martindale was such a unique scheme. Playing in year

837
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: two with this team is going to give them an

838
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: advantage that they didn't have last year because opposing offense

839
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: is alwaysknew this is what Wink's going to do, but

840
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: now his defense is more suited to prepare this way.

841
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: They understand which players are going to fit in better.

842
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: He's gone out and gotten a couple more players there

843
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: to help play the style he wants. All those things

844
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: are positives. All those things are positives, and you know

845
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: they take risks. But the other thing I'll add to

846
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: it is this, that style of defense that we're talking

847
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: about is much better when the offense becomes extremely one dimensional.

848
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: And last year you weren't leading enough games in the

849
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: third quarter to allow Wink to just go crazy on

850
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: these teams and have the success that he might otherwise have.

851
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: Well, probably the run defense was so bad they couldn't

852
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: get teams into third and long because they gave up

853
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: so many early down yards.

854
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: And the other thing that would help that run defense,

855
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: even if it's not markedly improved this year, is if

856
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: those teams are now losing in the second half and

857
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: can't just sit there and run the football in the

858
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: third quarter as much. And so if your offense. That's

859
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: why like complimentary football is big, especially when you're playing

860
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: like a defense that has Wink Martindale there. And we

861
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: saw some of the Ravens' best seasons is when their

862
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: offense with Lamar was jumping out to big leads. In

863
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and then Wink could pin his ears back

864
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: in this defense would cause havoc. And that's exactly what

865
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: ideally the Giants try to focus more on, is how

866
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: do we get out to these leads early. That's going

867
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: to make the defense look even better as well. So

868
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: there is optimism for me on that side of the ball,

869
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: despite the fact that you're playing a brutal schedule with

870
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: simply the fact that it's year two with Wink slightly

871
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: better personnel in my opinion, and then you have the

872
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: ability potentially to play with more leads. That's going to

873
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: allow him to get more creative defensively and offenses to

874
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: have to be more one dimensional in throwing the football

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Speaker 1: against his defense.

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Speaker 2: Warren, great stuff.

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Speaker 3: Tell the folks where they can find your book and

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Speaker 3: tell them why you think it's different, special and why

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Speaker 3: they should go buy it, and maybe why you do

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00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: that give fans like either a surprise team or a

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Speaker 3: disappointing team from all your numbers this year, that that

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Speaker 3: you've kind of discovered.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean the book is five hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty two pages. I spend months writing it. I've got

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Speaker 1: unique insights about all thirty two teams ors thirty two

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Speaker 1: chapters in there. One on the Giants, John and I

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Speaker 1: touched on I don't know, maybe the surface like fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty five percent of what the chapter has. There's

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Speaker 1: so much more in there, so much more from a

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Speaker 1: fantasy football perspective or other perspective, investment pursuits of yours

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Speaker 1: that I think teams are fans are going to love

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Speaker 1: for all teams in addition to the Giants, A team

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Speaker 1: that I think could surprise this year is actually I

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Speaker 1: think it's smarter to pick teams from the NFC because

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Speaker 1: that division or that conference is more wide open to see.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. I've been big on the Atlanta Falcons. This

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Speaker 1: team was not very good down inside the red zone

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Speaker 1: last year. Arthur Smith always almost always as great inside

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Speaker 1: the redsiden. I think Desmond Ritters going to improve. They

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Speaker 1: could not hit any deep balls either. They were worse

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Speaker 1: than the Giants last year in terms of hitting deep

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Speaker 1: balls having accuracy for Marcus Mariota, who is one of

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Speaker 1: the worst in the league last season. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to improve a little bit this year when you

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Speaker 1: hit more deep balls and then you're better inside of

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Speaker 1: the red zone. Guess what you're going to score more

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Speaker 1: points and this team. Obviously, there are thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. There were only two teams that were

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Speaker 1: what I call in more games than the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: last year. That was the Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: What do I mean by in more games? I mean

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Speaker 1: that they either won or lost by one score or less,

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Speaker 1: so they were never out of the game. In terms

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Speaker 1: of late they could have always either tied it or

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Speaker 1: taken a lead on that final possession. The Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: were in fifteen of seventeen games last year, they finished

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Speaker 1: only seven to ten. They got much better on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball with personnel, a little bit

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Speaker 1: better on the offensive side of the ball. They shed

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Speaker 1: a ton of dead cap. Their dead cap situation in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two was ridiculous. They are substantially better this year.

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Speaker 2: Sounds.

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Speaker 1: I think this team is better on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball, and I think that they're going to go

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Speaker 1: out there and prove it. The NFC South without Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is a wide open division. In my mind, I

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Speaker 1: took some long shots on them to win the division

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Speaker 1: or for them to make the playoffs, and I think

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Speaker 1: that they go over their win total. I thought that

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Speaker 1: they would go over eight wins this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a nine win team in a

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Speaker 1: pretty average situation, with the outside shot of maybe winning

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Speaker 1: ten and possibly making the playoffs. So I like the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons a little bit this year.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: By the way, folks, I know Warren was, you know,

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Speaker 3: tempering expectation with the Giants, and this happens at eight

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Speaker 3: and a half wins, as is over under in the book.

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Speaker 3: So that's basically right where they were last year, give

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Speaker 3: or take. So make sure you go check it out.

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Speaker 3: And Warren, where can they find the book?

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Speaker 1: You can find at shore Football analysis dot com.

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Speaker 3: Perfect Warren, great stuff. This is always fun, it's always educational.

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Speaker 3: I always get great feedback on it. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: joining us again and let's get ready for football to start.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sean.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Warren Sharp for joining.

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Speaker 3: Us on the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 3: the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you all next time.