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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Yo

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Speaker 1: yo yo. It's Monday, and that can mean only one thing,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly as usual is running late. We've all. I

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Speaker 1: You're being very quiet? What's well? Can you You know?

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Speaker 1: I can hear you, brother, I just can't see you,

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Speaker 1: are you? Are you? Or is it you know? Do you?

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Speaker 1: I guess you feel like you got more depth at

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Speaker 1: did you get your delivery of wing? Shit? Was That's

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Speaker 1: what I was saying? Well, I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: go to stop come and get the wings. And Shannon

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Speaker 1: is supposed to call somebody and have him delivered? How

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439
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Speaker 1: I found this out last week. We have a new

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Speaker 1: wingstop rep. So remember Rolla Bradley that was our our

441
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: guy that would get us hooked up from Megan and

442
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Speaker 1: get us free wings. Right, yeah, he is no longer

443
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Speaker 1: our internal rep. We have a new rep. So that

444
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Speaker 1: may be what calls him the hold. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just know it's not my fault. Let's say lose

446
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: your team. We'll placed flame brother because hey, y'all know me,

447
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: I like some free food just as much the next

448
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Speaker 1: man and I, Hey, you want some free wings? Shannon,

449
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: you're our position coach. He realized, you know we're lighting

450
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Speaker 1: on you to the little of the message, you know,

451
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: and get it right? Well, yeah, we don't. We don't

452
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: care about head coaches and rollers and and you know, rad,

453
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: we're relying on our position coach. Here we'll see these parts.

454
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Folks put put me in a bad spot with you

455
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: guys because they tell me, hey, we're going to do this,

456
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: I relay it to my teammates, and then when they

457
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: don't pull through, I look like the bad guy. So

458
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: you are the bad guy. Okay, here we go as

459
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, is do I hear is Jesse Holly?

460
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Speaker 1: Is he has he joined us? Oh? I hear Jesse

461
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: Holly's phone as sideways? Yeah? There there he goes. Now

462
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: it's right, Jesse. Are you there be our coach opposition,

463
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: our position coach? And I guess we'll talk to Jesse

464
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be if you're gonna be our position coach,

465
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Speaker 1: we're definitely going to eight. Nate, Hey, you know what,

466
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you just got five the five dollars that we show

467
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: you don't criticize your position coach and and show up late.

468
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: So you just got not five bucks. Where have you been?

469
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: What have you been doing? What's more important than this show? Jesse?

470
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Um the job that actually pays me a little bit

471
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: more than the five bucks I'm gonna make on this show.

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: But no, man, we had we had a meeting that

473
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to start at nine thirty and it was

474
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: supposed to be we were presenting our our areas this morning,

475
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: and so it kept getting pushback, pushback, pushback, pushback, and

476
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: we were all supposed to have a three minute prep

477
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: presentation ready to go, but people said, you know, after

478
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: three minutes, and they just went on and just was

479
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: talking and talking and talking, and I was like, towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the presentation, well I got a chance

481
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: to jump on and do my three minutes. So h

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Speaker 1: Once we finally got on, took a little bit of time,

483
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: but we got it done, and I'm here, hey yeah, okay, okay, yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: you were forgiven when it comes to education that trust.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah yeah, okay. All that sounds well, man,

486
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: but you have a constant talk. But yeah, first off,

487
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: I set up You get this random text from Jesse

488
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: last week and it's a screenshot of party like and

489
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: it looks like he's having this one or one WebEx

490
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Speaker 1: with Jesse. So first off, how did that get set up?

491
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: And what the what the hell was that? So um

492
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Speaker 1: I had the extreme absolute honor and privilege which I've

493
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Speaker 1: had for about the last five or six years to

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Speaker 1: speak to the incoming rookies. Uh. And so that was

495
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: set up by by by Campe and by Brian Wansley

496
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: and you know mister Hill. And so they had me

497
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: and another another player on. But his hiss. The awesome

498
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: part about it, This is what I love about Mike McCarthy.

499
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: So you know, they tell us to get in a

500
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit earlier to make sure that we're all up

501
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: and ready to go, and before guys start even coming in,

502
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's there. So there was a moment in time

503
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Speaker 1: for about like seven minutes where it was just me

504
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: him to shar a choice. Brian Wansley, Kay Johnson, we

505
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: just had a chance to just chop it up. So

506
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: it was just real, just it wasn't anything that was scheduled,

507
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: but it was just something that having an opportunity to

508
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Speaker 1: talk to him without him thinking this is some sort

509
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Speaker 1: of media deal or anything like that. So it was

510
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: just raw, real conversation. And I have to admit, I

511
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: have to admit I'm not going to sit here and

512
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Speaker 1: act like I was just like this. You know, I

513
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: had to pull myself back from like a fanboy moment

514
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: for a second, Like when he popped on, I was

515
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: kind of like I almost called him freaky Mike. That

516
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: was this coach to calling him freaky Mike. And I

517
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: caught myself and I called him coach, and I was

518
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: like kind of telling him how excided I was for

519
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: him to be there. And then we got a chance

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Speaker 1: to just talk a little bit about ball, about leadership,

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Speaker 1: about his expectations, uh, some of his um some of

522
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: his leadership style, one of the things that he's expecting

523
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: from his team, and how we're all handed on this pandemic.

524
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: But he was sitting at his desk. You could see

525
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the board in the back. He was working. He was

526
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: putting in a time in a g and effort to

527
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Speaker 1: make sure that that they were ready to go when

528
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: when things got back to normal, things get back to normal.

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Speaker 1: Anything available, Go ahead? Go ahead? Okay, So tell us

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Speaker 1: more what you just told Can we get some specifics,

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00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: as Jesson, We've been waiting for an hour to get

532
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: specific and you gave us a general thing. Come I

533
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: need you, brother, Come on, we've been fans up for

534
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: the last thirty minute. Come on, just tell us some

535
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: one on one with coach McCart if you come in

536
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: and you go, yeah, I talked to him. It was cool.

537
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: So here, So here's some of the things that we've

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Speaker 1: talked about. Like one of the things that because I

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Speaker 1: asked him now, I'm not throwing shade at the people,

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Speaker 1: the previous people beforehand, but even when I came in

541
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Speaker 1: it's either building. Even when I was coming inside the

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00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: building and doing these conversations, when we you know, we

543
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: were back to the old style of things. The previous

544
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: head coach never came in, never, never any of that.

545
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: And Mike and I kind of asked him, I said,

546
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: why are you here so earlier? I've never you know.

547
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: He goes, I want to make sure that your time

548
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: is respected. And he said, I want to make sure

549
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: who's checking in one minute, who's checking it. I want

550
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: to know because that's going to show me a lot

551
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: about the guys on this football team. And he goes,

552
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the one thing that I that I will demand from

553
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: these guys on this football team is you will respect time.

554
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: You will respect people who give their time, and there

555
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: will be accountability that has to be had for every

556
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: single Like they were to treat this as if I

557
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: was standing in front of the room or I wasn't

558
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: standing in front of this call. So he was there

559
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that guys weren't checking in a minute

560
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: before the meeting was starting. He was there to make

561
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: sure that guys were where they were supposed to be,

562
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: that their cameras were on, that they were engaged. So

563
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: he was he was there to hold people accountable, and

564
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: he was saying that will be a focus of what

565
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: we're doing in this in this season and on this team.

566
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: Guys will be held accountable for their actions. Guys would

567
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: be held accountable for their assignments. Guys would be held

568
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: accountable for their character. Guys would be held accountable for

569
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: the things they do on and off the field. So

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00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: that was one of the first things that he said

571
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: in that conversation. He goes, I'm very big on respect

572
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: because you know, you guys don't have to take time

573
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: out of your schedule to talk to our rookies, and

574
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: they should. They should be here and respect you as such.

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: That is that the only thing that got you excited?

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00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Or were there other things that were said that you

577
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: can't know? There are somethings that I won't talk about,

578
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: but you know, of course, you know kind of going

579
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Speaker 1: into what it was as far as this you know,

580
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: XS and O was of what he was looking for

581
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: and this team, team, and he said, this team will

582
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: be explosive. He said, we have the talent on this

583
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: team to be very explosive teams. He didn't go into

584
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: details of how they were going to be explosive, but

585
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: he was just saying that he expects this team to

586
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: be a very explosive team. Uh, they're going to do

587
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: some things different than what they've done in the past.

588
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: They're going to utilize all their assets. They have a

589
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: talented bunch of guys, and he says he's gonna he said,

590
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: he said he's gonna milk every single bit of talent

591
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: out of the guys that he has on this roster.

592
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: That is the goal. That is a plan to get everything,

593
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: every single thing out of the guy that he's had

594
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: on this roster. Did you did you get his phone number? No?

595
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get his phone number for Chicken Wings or

596
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: something there, Nate. You know, I'm gonna tell you something.

597
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I want to applaud Jesse. I'm serious because for the

598
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: first time, there we go. Jesse said, I'm not gonna

599
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: tell you everything. J well here, well, here's the thing.

600
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is that I know how I know

601
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: how the media works, and I know how it works

602
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. I haven't built

603
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: the relationship good enough just yet that if something gets

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: back to him that he and I talked about that

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00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: he you know, because again, this wasn't This wasn't me

606
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: coming at him as a pre and post game show host, uh,

607
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, hanging with the boys. Hold. This was player

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00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: to coach, right. It was that behind the scenes. You know,

609
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: I could let my guard down. You were not gonna

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00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: have a conversation and I not have to worry about

611
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: this going being the front page news or something. So

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00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: it was more so. And there were one thing that

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00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: we talked about that I won't I won't divulge right

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00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: now or whatever, because it wasn't that type of conversation.

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00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: It was one of those where he he he came

616
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: in it as you know, you know the brotherhood and Nate,

617
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: you know the brother was you was you was a

618
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: horny Jesse and he was when he when I saw

619
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Speaker 1: his name pop on and I saw and I was like,

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, and Brian Waltzley, I said he goes,

621
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Speaker 1: coach might pop on. He's like, but I'm not sure.

622
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: They were in meetings, so he might not pop. But

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00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, but he popped on. Like I said, he

624
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: popped on ten minutes before we were even supposed to

625
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: go live. And so when it when he when he

626
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: popped on, I was like, oh and again it was

627
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: just you know how it is, Nate when you when

628
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: you they talked to they talked to us like, you know,

629
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: this is a conversation that we can have because you

630
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: understand the dynamics of thank you, what that's supposed to be.

631
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: So so I haven't built that relationship where I can

632
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: go and say something and he'd be like, you know what,

633
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: screw you. You'll never you'll never talk here again. You'll

634
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: never say that here again. So yeah, once I get

635
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: it once, once me, once me and Freaky might get

636
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: like this, then I'll be able to kind of share

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: more stuff. So Jesse said on fire until his build

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Speaker 1: and wow, wow, And where was your interaction with the rookies,

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Speaker 1: Like do you get a chance to, I guess talk

640
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Speaker 1: to him much or is it more one sided? You

641
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Speaker 1: just given a speech? Yeah, it was more so one sided.

642
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Speaker 1: It was more so of me talking to them kind

643
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Speaker 1: of giving them a perspective, um, and in the way

644
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Speaker 1: that they do it. I love how Brianon Wandley sets

645
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Speaker 1: it up. He kind of brings in guys to kind

646
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Speaker 1: of give a little bit of you know, what coaches

647
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Speaker 1: look for and what coaches look like from a coaching aspect,

648
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: you know. And then I came in as what it

649
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: looks like on the media side of things, you know,

650
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Speaker 1: And I kind of explained to them like you, I

651
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: don't care what university you went to. It doesn't matter

652
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Speaker 1: what university you went to. You're you're never going to

653
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: You've never gotten to coverage you're getting ready to get

654
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. It is unprecedented the coverage that

655
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: you're going to get. Um. Everywhere you go, you are

656
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: being watched, you are being recorded. Um, we will find out.

657
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: So don't think you can high stuff. But I told

658
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: them I go and I asked the question. I said,

659
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Speaker 1: you know, show of hands, how many people are snitches?

660
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: And all of them, to a man looked at me

661
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: like that like I had ten heads, And I said, cool,

662
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gladding on one to raise their hand. But I

663
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: told him, I said, every time you pick up this

664
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 1: cell phone and you put it up to your face

665
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: and you do this, and you go live, and you

666
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667
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: and you do all that kind of stuff. You're you're

668
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: you're you're dry snitching when you're in the club and

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Speaker 1: you're doing this and you're showing everybody behind you drinking,

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Speaker 1: or that person behind you is dak or Zeke or

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Speaker 1: someone else. You just now told us that the starting

672
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the club drinking on a Friday night, right,

673
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: or you just told us that this is happening. Or

674
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: you're in your home and you're showing all stuff that

675
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: you have in your home. You just let me know

676
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: all the valuable that you had in your home. So

677
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: you just basically draw stitch on the people that it's

678
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: in your home or the people that's you know, whatever

679
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: it is, and I go go look, I said, look

680
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: at the draft. Look what happened, you know, the night

681
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: of the draft. Look what happened, you know with whole

682
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: social districting thing with deep Zeke and back and all

683
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So I'm just breaking a downtown

684
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: about what it is to be a player in the

685
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Speaker 1: media with being a Dallas cowboy. Wow, I tell you,

686
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Speaker 1: let's right here, man, m o boy, yes, because because

687
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Here's the thing. When you're a player,

688
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Speaker 1: Right when you're a player, I know what you're going

689
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: to be at every Sunday for three hours, for seven hours,

690
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: every Sunday, like no, no doubt about it. And if

691
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: it's a home game, nine point nine nine percent of

692
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Speaker 1: the time, whoever is in your entourage or in your

693
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Speaker 1: family is going to be at the game with you.

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Speaker 1: So if if all the time you're showing money and

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Speaker 1: jewelry and expending things in your home, well, for eight Sundays,

696
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Speaker 1: for eight Sundays, I know where you're I know you're

697
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Speaker 1: going to be in Arlington for five to seven hours.

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Speaker 1: And then the other eight Sundays, I know that you're

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Speaker 1: going to be out of town for at least two

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Speaker 1: two and a half days. And maybe people are at

701
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Speaker 1: your house, maybe not, But there are sixteen weeks throughout

702
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Speaker 1: the season where I know exactly where you're going to

703
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Speaker 1: be for at least seven hours. So kind of keep

704
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Speaker 1: your personal stuff to a minimum. Now, don't show people

705
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Speaker 1: where you live, don't invite everybody in your house. And

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Speaker 1: the famous quote that Brian wants loved that I use

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Speaker 1: all the time. You know, now that you're here and

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Speaker 1: you have a little bit of money, you'll be uptown

709
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Speaker 1: and lower Green or stuff like that. My coach told

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Speaker 1: me this in college, and I tell to them all

711
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Speaker 1: the time, you ain't that cute, and that ain't her

712
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: first time. That is that is an absolute fact. You

713
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: ain't that cute. That is not her first time, and

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Speaker 1: it's just that's just the nature that And I tell them,

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Speaker 1: I go, you have to understand people have been in

716
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Speaker 1: this city that played basketball, baseball, football and the likes far.

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Speaker 1: You've just got to this city. I've been here ten years.

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00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: Guys have been here longer than me with a lot

719
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Speaker 1: of money. So you ain't that cute and that ain't

720
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Speaker 1: her first time. So don't think you're going out to

721
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Speaker 1: these clubs and just because you're the new rookie town

722
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Speaker 1: that this chick all of a sudden loves you. Nah,

723
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Speaker 1: you gotta kind of watch out with that kind of

724
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Speaker 1: stuff being being a ballplayer. You know what I'm saying,

725
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Speaker 1: Nate Man, I'll tell you what, man, because I ain't

726
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Speaker 1: never been cute, but I showed been along on Green. Hey, Hey, Jesse,

727
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: before before we take our next break, you talked to

728
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Speaker 1: coach McCarthy. We know you had your fangirl pants on.

729
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Speaker 1: Where would you where would you rate him right now?

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Speaker 1: On the list of great coaches in this league? Obviously

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Speaker 1: you would put Belichick up there, and you would probably

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00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: put Sean Payton up there. Pete Carroll's probably in that mix.

733
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Speaker 1: Would you put him top five? Top ten? Where would

734
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Speaker 1: you rate McCarthy before before he steps foot on the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys field? Where do you put him right now? He's

736
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Speaker 1: definitely in a top ten conversation, I mean being being

737
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: out of the game for a little while, and I'm

738
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: not trying to be biased, but he's definitely in the

739
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Speaker 1: top ten conversation when you look at you know, I

740
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Speaker 1: think the top five. You know, guys like Belichick, Sean Payton,

741
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, you know guys like that, those

742
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: that kind of top five conversation is kind of solidified

743
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Speaker 1: with those guys. But he can fit anywhere from six

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00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to ten, even even being off and out of the

745
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: game for a little while. Because Andreid just get went

746
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Speaker 1: into the top five too. So yeah, because ANDREI So

747
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Speaker 1: when when you look at coach McCarthy. Jesse, you tell

748
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Speaker 1: him if I'm close or not. But when you say

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Speaker 1: offensive minds, now you now you know you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the top the top five guy with his his innovation

751
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: early in his career with Green Bay it kind of

752
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: weaned off at the end. But offensive minded, yeah, he

753
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: he is a top five, top six coach. But then

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Speaker 1: when you go overall those other coaches that coach that

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Speaker 1: are Jess and ments mentioned really are a little bit

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Speaker 1: of head of him at this time and not to

757
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: you know and and feel how you feel. But there's

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Speaker 1: no there's no there's no Aaron Rodgers, and there's no

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00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy like he helped develop one of the baddest

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Speaker 1: and most dangerous and of course, being a cowboy fan

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Speaker 1: one one player that we've seen far too often showcases skills,

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Speaker 1: one of the baddest quarterbacks we've ever seen play like.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give Mike McCarthy some credit in that he

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Speaker 1: ice cold man wearing Rodgers man. We've seen it up

766
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Speaker 1: close too many times. All Right, fellas, let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick break and when we come back, we'll give Jesse

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Speaker 1: in the break and I wanted to. I saw Jesse yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it was one. It was something that it was like

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Speaker 1: I had a guest bedroom, and that entire guest bedroom

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Speaker 1: wasn't it was a sneaker closet. And I remember going

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Speaker 1: in one day and I was looking at what sneakers

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Speaker 1: there was there was about a twelve box high row

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Speaker 1: of these sneakers called Nikephone posits and retail at retail

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Speaker 1: there are two hundred and fifty dollars a piece retail.

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Speaker 1: And so imagine what the retail market looks like, and

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Speaker 1: imagine the ones who are you a specific type of

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Speaker 1: two out of the twelve. And I've had those for about,

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849
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: these boxes in a room that I never wore. And

850
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: it just made no sense that I just was spending

851
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: money to hoard sneakers and I wasn't wearing them. I

852
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: was wearing some of them, I wasn't wearing all of them.

853
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: And it was like certain ones you just can't wear

854
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: on the street. I gotta have an event or something special,

855
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: like you gotta see these when I put these on,

856
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and I just looked around and I said, what am

857
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: I doing? What am I doing? I've wasted it far

858
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: too much money, because it's the sneaker game is a

859
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: black hole. And I said, I can't do this anymore,

860
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: um let because let me just get rid of them.

861
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: And so I found they. I found a buyer in California,

862
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: and I found a buyer. I kind of sold some

863
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: pieces separately, but then I found a buyer in California

864
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: to to buy them, and so I loaded them up

865
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: in the U haul and drove all the way to California,

866
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: UM and sold them and bought a house said you

867
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: said there was one thing he bought a household. You

868
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: said there was one pair that you wish you wouldn't

869
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: sold a pair was at Yeah, that was the pair

870
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: they talked about last night, the infamous Flu game UM,

871
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: which was actually the food Poison game. We found out

872
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: for sure last night. Uh in that one with Michael Jordan,

873
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was the Flu Game Jordan twelves era. The

874
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: color way was all black and you know, in the

875
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: gym red Chicago red. And so those are the ones

876
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: that I was like, kind of like, there's something that

877
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: I kept, Like there's about there's about twenty pair that

878
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I actually kept. I was like, I not get rid

879
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: of these, um. They just had they had more sentimental

880
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: value to me. I had them when I was, you know,

881
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: in college and won the national championship with a lot

882
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: of those, UM. But those were the ones I was like, ah,

883
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: and I gave him and I sold them away, and

884
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean they fetched a pretty pretty penny, but I

885
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: wish I didn't. I wish I still had them. The

886
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: Food Game twelves, the Food Poison twelves, whatever you want

887
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: to call them out. Nate, is there anything that you

888
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: spend money on that You're like, this doesn't make sense.

889
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Why I keep spending money on this? But I keep

890
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: spending my money. Yeah, but I stopped. There useduld be

891
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: card trucks, but I stopped because the money ran out.

892
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: What's what's the one what's the one card truck that

893
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: you got rid of that you wish you kid kept on?

894
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: Held on too? Man Ford made this truck to call

895
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: the Excursion. It's a it's big suv and they made

896
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: a diesel. And if I had to do over, I

897
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: bought three or four of them. Thing, iur have every

898
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: one of them. I'll be like Jess, I'll be stacked

899
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: twelve D. Man. That Excursion ain't a better vehicle in

900
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: the world. I'm my favorite vehicles are jeeps and corvettes.

901
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about all around do everything family, card soling,

902
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: hauling that that that Forward Excursion, Boy, it was a

903
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: b special at DC. What about that motorcycle? You ain't

904
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: given that up? Uh? Nah, Man, that's a life threatening

905
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: thing and you don't do it right. So I get

906
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: that up. Man. I like to see other people on

907
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: them more than I do myself. Now, what about you, Kurt,

908
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: anything you just throw money at that, You're like, this

909
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: makes besides your family, I'm gonna say my kids count

910
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: because that's that's about it. I don't know how about you?

911
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: What about you? Shine? You know? You know, I used

912
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: to be really big into trading cards when I was.

913
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: I guess in my college years. I used to. I

914
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: would spend out, you know, listen live those are coming

915
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: back now. If you still have some, If you still

916
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: have some, go you know, to go on mom and

917
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: gross house and go through the attica, the garage and

918
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: if you still have some, you might have some valuable

919
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: stuff that you don't even know that you have, yeah,

920
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: because they're all going digital now. But I used to like,

921
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: literally I was I never really, I was always broke.

922
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we were ever poor, because I never

923
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: My grandfather and my mom and everybody always made sure

924
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: that I had I enjoyed life, but I would we

925
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: were always broken. Like we would put stuff on lailway

926
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: and we would pay for it the whole year, and

927
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: we would you know, so I would literally remember days

928
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: where I had like three dollars in my checking account

929
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: where I would have to decide if I was gonna

930
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: if I was gonna eat a big Mac or you know,

931
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: whatever fast food it was for that day, just stringing

932
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: out all the way till Friday. But I would go

933
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: spend my money on facebo ball and football cards. It

934
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: was so stupid. I mean now, I was like, man,

935
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: why why didn't I just put some of that money away?

936
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: I'd have been a lot better off. But that was

937
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: that was my vice back in the day. So all right,

938
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: let's get back on tracks to some football there are

939
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a little bit earlier about possibly

940
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: Cheeto moving to safety. There's some rumors that Jalen maybe

941
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: movement positions. Kurt, you sent me a note on that.

942
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: Where did you hear that? What? What are the rumors

943
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: around that? Well, that's been discussed, I think in a

944
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: couple of different places. And he was interviewed on one

945
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: of our local Cowboys blogs about, um, yeah, making the move,

946
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: basically switching him in Vanderesh where Chanlin would be more

947
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: of the weak side guy, a little bit more free

948
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: to to rush the passer or freelance maybe and uh

949
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: talking about moving Vanderesh back inside to middle linebacker. Um,

950
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you guys think is that

951
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: a good move? It seemed like Jalen kind of freelanced

952
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little too much last year anyway, and Ken

953
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: vanderesshhold up playing that middle stop. You know, Jesse you

954
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: can go first, because wow, um, I think when you

955
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: talk about both of those linebackers, they're switching positions for them,

956
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of an impact it will have.

957
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: And I say that because their issue wasn't playing out

958
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: of position. They have more fundamental issues. They have more

959
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: things that fundamentally they had to improve on. Jaylen Smith,

960
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: whether he's playing Will Sam or Mike, he has to

961
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: just be a better at not trying to make everything

962
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: a big hit, break down and tackle the man, shed blocks, understanding,

963
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: diagnose plays better. And vanderrests the same thing. Be able

964
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: to shed blocks, be able to to to cover, be

965
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: able to and for him, you know, stay healthy those things.

966
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Changing position still doesn't change the fundamental things of where

967
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: they struggle that last year. They will be helped a

968
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: lot more this year because, in the words of big Natives,

969
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: they got the big greasies in front of them, which

970
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: allows them to keep the fat boys off of them

971
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: or or or not get to them as fast or

972
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: as solid, and now they're able to get downhill and

973
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: get side on the sideline. Jalen Smith and Lady vanderest

974
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: they didn't have position issues. They weren't playing out of position.

975
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: They have fundamental technique issues that they struggle with. So

976
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: whether you move them to Mike, Sam Will or the

977
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: hot dog standman, if they if they aren't doing what

978
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be doing fundamentally technically, being technically technically

979
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: sound in their fundamental training and all the things that

980
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be as linebackers, and it it doesn't matter

981
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: where you put them. They have to be able to

982
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: diagnose the and and hopefully you know, another year of

983
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: experience an off season where all you have to do

984
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: and all you should be doing is studying what was

985
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: previously done and what was now and that will be

986
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: done in the future to better yourself mentally. Linebacker. That's

987
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: a mental game. When you watch a guy like Ray

988
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: Lewis played the game, he would always talk about the

989
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: mental battle that he would play. You have to be

990
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: able and you see you see it with Sean Lee.

991
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Sean Lee has had a successful career when he's healthy

992
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: not because he's the most physically gifted person in the world.

993
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: He's probably the least gifted person on the defense when

994
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: it comes to just sheer athleticism. But what he's able

995
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: to be is he's technically sound. He understands how to

996
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: jack a guy up and get off of him, how

997
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: to take a man halfway on, how to not get

998
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: his shoulders in it, you know, wrong places, how his

999
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: eyes don't lie to him, and how he's able to

1000
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: see when a players being diagnosed, and how when it's

1001
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: being run to attack it and be on the forefront

1002
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: of it and not being on the reaction side of it.

1003
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: So for a linebacker like quarterback, yes, it takes some

1004
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: skill to do it, but it's all about how you

1005
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: process it mentally and can you be technically sound in

1006
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: your fundamentals? For Jalen, do he believe that the team

1007
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: is first? A gap mean a gap? Clarie view, Baby

1008
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: claride view. I can see it. I could see Nate

1009
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: claride view, Baby ev Swipe it up, Baby. I'm with

1010
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: you all the way, Jesse. Can you value the team

1011
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: first and do your job when it's third and five?

1012
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Can you tackle that dude for a four? Yard game.

1013
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: We had several games where it was ten nine. A

1014
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: love of miss tackles and the majority of them up

1015
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: by linebackers. Can Layton fill a hole when when it's

1016
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: third and won, and it's bar and it's Barkley coming

1017
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: down the middle, can you sit there and stop him

1018
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: for no game or loss. It's about can you excel

1019
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: within the concept of the defense and make your plays

1020
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: from there? As we contest Michael Jordan. He you know,

1021
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: you may have thought he was freelancing, but he stayed

1022
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: within the triangle concept so that when he did get

1023
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: himself out of position, he could kick it to one

1024
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: of his boyd bj Armstrong, Steve Kerr, or one of

1025
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: those guys. Can you play with your athletic ability with

1026
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: the team first, so that if you do, mister, mister

1027
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: tackle in the A gap, you you have stopped the

1028
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: guard and you have forced them over to the other

1029
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: guy so the other guy can make the play. Are

1030
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: you just gonna shoot through there with your head down,

1031
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: mister tackle? He h out and he going for a

1032
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: thirty yard game, and now your defense on the field

1033
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: for extra four plays. It's about to w you sacrifice

1034
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: everything you're about for your team. Because I'm up with Jesse.

1035
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: You can leave him at the same position unless the

1036
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: scheme change. You can leave him at the same position,

1037
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: and they should excel. Is there any any worry about

1038
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: a guy like vander Esch, who obviously had a neck problem,

1039
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: they have a chronic neck pop problem moving him to

1040
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: middle linebackers that make a difference, and this if they

1041
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: run the four three scheme, it shouldn't hurt him as bad.

1042
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: But he got to meet them hogs, man, he got

1043
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: to see He got to see them hogs baby them

1044
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: guards and said he got to see them things. That

1045
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a good thing for a man with

1046
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: him make injury. Nah, not throughout twenty five real quick

1047
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, just because I brought

1048
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: it up and I mentioned that, Kurt, you go first,

1049
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to benefit the most

1050
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: on this team, offense or defense? With the addition to

1051
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: cd Land. You had some interesting stats, you said, so yeah,

1052
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: and maybe that's something we can talk about next show,

1053
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: because obviously you would think Dak would would would be

1054
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the big benefactor. But there's been a lot of talk

1055
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: here recently about Zeke and how opening up the offense

1056
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: is really gonna help me. I think his yards pre

1057
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: carry her almost two yards better? Uh in eleven personnel

1058
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: with or excuse me, twelve personnel or what is it

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Speaker 1: with the spread ob and spread out? Yeah than it

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Speaker 1: was with the two tight end set up. So um,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can talk about that more next time. But

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Speaker 1: it looks like this is an opportunity for for Zeke

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Speaker 1: to really up his game even more. Let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's tease it for a week a weekend. Yeah, next Monday,

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Speaker 1: benefit the post on this team from CD Lamb's edition,

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Speaker 1: so tell them more. Yeah, you might be right. Thank

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