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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Monday, January nineteenth, and since

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Speaker 1: President Trump did not to win the Nobel Peace Prize,

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Speaker 1: he says he no longer feels an obligation to think

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Speaker 1: purely of peace, Greenland, watch out. Those words were for you.

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Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes.

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Speaker 1: You read this. We're getting some new words, folks, from

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Speaker 1: the President from a letter he sent to European leaders.

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Speaker 1: And Robes, you just read it. This is just coming out.

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Speaker 1: This is still a developing story that people are talking about.

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Speaker 1: But Robes, you used a word that I'm seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of places. Extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you told me about this. I was

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Speaker 2: off doing something else. I came back in. You described

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Speaker 2: what this text said, what these this letter said, and

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Speaker 2: you know, you say, my jaw dropped you You looked

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Speaker 2: at me and you said, your.

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Speaker 3: Jaw is actually dropped. Right now that.

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Speaker 2: We say this, I feel like almost daily now, surely

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Speaker 2: this can't surprise me. At this point, something he does

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Speaker 2: or says can't be shocking anymore.

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Speaker 3: And yet somehow he still finds a way.

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Speaker 1: No way, you're shocked by this one too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my jaw dropped and I didn't even know that

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Speaker 3: my jaw had dropped. You pointed it out.

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Speaker 2: It was just a physical reaction to hearing the word choices.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the word choices, And this is what

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Speaker 1: you need to know, folks, is that the president two

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Speaker 1: headlines here. One of them is that he is still

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Speaker 1: talking about Greenland. He's still talking about possible military action,

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Speaker 1: but now he has linked military action to him being

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Speaker 1: snubbed for the Nobel Peace Prize. You're hearing me correctly,

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Speaker 1: but you're going to hear the president's words in just

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Speaker 1: a moment. The other headline is that, yes, he did

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Speaker 1: a short interview a short time ago with NBC News

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Speaker 1: by phone. They asked him directly or it was about

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Speaker 1: using force in Greenland. Will tell you verbatim what he said.

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Speaker 1: It was a short answer. But he's essentially not ruling

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Speaker 1: out military action against Greenland. So this is where we are.

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Speaker 1: How did we get here? It was a weekend really

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Speaker 1: of developments. It was the meeting last week was that

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Speaker 1: with the foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland.

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Speaker 2: The Greenland former minister left in tears and couldn't compose herself. Actually,

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Speaker 2: she was so emotional doing an interview about that meeting, and.

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Speaker 1: That kind of started what's been a series of events

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Speaker 2: Yes, and this is not, by the way, open for

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Speaker 2: making it very clear how he feels that. He is

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Speaker 2: is absolutely holding that country and others responsible for his snub.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people know the lead up. The

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Speaker 1: President's been talking about this for a long time, it seems, now,

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Speaker 1: wanting to acquire Greenland, says he wants to purchase it

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Speaker 1: now talking about the possibility of military action. At least

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Speaker 1: it's not off the table. But this has been talked

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Speaker 1: but after that there were demonstrations in Greenland out there

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Speaker 1: protesting and saying we don't want They have made clear

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Speaker 1: we have no interest in being Americans. Then after that,

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Speaker 1: the President issued a tariff threat against eight countries if

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent. And then there was an emergency summit

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Speaker 1: to respond. That takes us now to this moment, and

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Speaker 1: this letter rove that the President didn't put out publicly.

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Speaker 1: I give the Norwegian Prime minister credit for this one.

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Speaker 1: He received the response from President Trump, and he for

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Speaker 1: whoever they decided to put it out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that they sent him a text basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: temperature down? And his response to that was this, Dear Jonas.

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Speaker 2: This is President Trump to Norway's Prime Minister. Dear Jonas,

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Speaker 2: considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel

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Speaker 2: Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus. I no

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Speaker 2: longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although

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Speaker 2: it will always be predominant, but can now think about

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Speaker 2: what is good and proper for the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Stoff right there. That is a threat. That is a

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Speaker 1: military threat. That is I got a gun in my hand. Threat.

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Speaker 1: That isn't remarkable. I don't feel an obligation to think

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Speaker 1: now I really got to think about what's good for us.

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Speaker 1: That is gangster. We keep using gangston. This is mob

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Speaker 1: stuff and all this stuff we're hearing. He is writing

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Speaker 2: Right again, if this was a Hollywood script, I would

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Speaker 2: say you've gone too far. No, you as president would

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Speaker 2: he put it in writing. That is remarkable. He goes

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Speaker 2: on to say Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia

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Speaker 2: or China, and why do they have a right of

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Speaker 2: ownership anyway, There are no written documents. It's only that

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Speaker 2: a boat landed there hundreds of years ago. But we

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Speaker 1: Also.

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Speaker 2: I have done more for NATO than any other person

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Speaker 2: the United States. The world is not secure unless we

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Speaker 2: have complete and total control of Greenland.

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Speaker 1: He's putting world security. World security is based on the

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Speaker 1: United States control in Greenland, is what he's saying. Look,

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Speaker 1: we take that for what it is interpreted. However, whatever

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Speaker 1: or another, but it it stands on its face. Roades

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Speaker 1: is that. I mean, what a weird threat. You didn't

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Speaker 1: give me the peace prize, so I ain't got to

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Speaker 2: Now, that's how his mind works.

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Speaker 3: He's all about retributions.

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Speaker 2: He has created this drama because we have heard from

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Speaker 2: plenty of European leaders who have made it very clear

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Speaker 2: that there is no interest, has never been any interest,

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Speaker 2: This is all, according to most of the European leaders

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Speaker 2: by President Trump.

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Speaker 1: And he's not letting you go. Things are going up, up,

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Speaker 1: to this point. Now included here we talked about this Norway.

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Speaker 1: The Norwegian Prime Minister was the one that put out

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Speaker 1: but said, we conveyed our opposition to his announced tariff

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Speaker 1: the need to de escalate and proposed a telephone conversation.

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Speaker 1: The response from Trump came shortly after the message was sent.

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Speaker 1: It was his decision to share his message with other

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Speaker 1: NATO leaders. There you go. So Norway's position on Greenland

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Speaker 1: is clear part of Norway. Excuse me, Greenland is part

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Speaker 1: of the Kingdom of Denmark and Norway fully supports the

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Speaker 1: NATO is a responsible way. As regards to the Nobel

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Speaker 1: Peace Prize, here you go, ropes. I have clearly explained,

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Speaker 1: including the President Trump, what is well known the prize

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Speaker 1: was awarded by an independent nobele Bail committee and not

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Speaker 1: the Norwegian government. That he had to throw that in

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Speaker 1: There seems the President knows right, he knows who does.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't believe it.

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Speaker 3: He does, he doesn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: He thinks that the Norwegian government can control or sway

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Speaker 2: Nobel Peace Prize. And I think he may think that

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Speaker 2: to go a certain way, he does put pressure on

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Speaker 2: politicians and using tactics of carrots and sticks. Yes, so

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Speaker 2: that's how it works in his administration, and he is

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Speaker 2: having a hard time understanding that that might not be

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Speaker 1: A few reactions from some European leaders. The Danish Foreign

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Speaker 1: Minister's simply saying, you can't threaten your way to ownership

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Speaker 1: of greenland. Really, I'm going to save this one in

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Speaker 1: a file and see if that went ages. Well, you

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Speaker 1: can't threaten your way to ownership of greenland. Really, Presidents

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Speaker 1: allow ourselves to be blackmailed. Blackmail between allies of two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years, blackmail between friends is obviously unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: We Europeans must make it clear the limit has been reached,

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Speaker 1: that statement. Does everybody feel that thing, because there hasn't

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Speaker 2: Well, now that they've said it and they've written it,

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Speaker 2: now let's see if their actions back up their words.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to push back was we haven't reached it?

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Speaker 1: going to take this anymore. We haven't reached that yet.

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Speaker 1: We keep taking it, keep taking it. Eye, it's Trump

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Speaker 1: being Trump. Oh here we go. Oh that's crazy, but

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Speaker 1: oh it's just Trump. Here we are. We haven't demanded

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We just Yes, this is I hear.

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Speaker 1: But I like that line. At some point, somebody's got

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Speaker 3: Wow, When you put it like that, it seems ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: If somebody wants our home that we are paying for robes,

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Speaker 1: our answers no, but they say let's have a meeting

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Speaker 1: about it. Why would we.

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Speaker 2: Say yes, right, There is no there is no situation

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Speaker 2: in which we would say yes.

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Speaker 1: That's just you're not going to just take our stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're about to take this.

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Speaker 2: I think they thought that cooler heads could prevail, that

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Speaker 2: they could talk with Marco Rubio, that they could talk

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Speaker 2: with JD.

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Speaker 3: Vance, and that they could say, hey, we understand why

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Speaker 3: you all are concerned. Let us offer this.

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Speaker 2: Let us you all can reopen your military basis here

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Speaker 2: that have kind of crumbled and fallen into, you know,

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Speaker 2: just disrepair. I think we have eight or nine military

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Speaker 2: could reassume they're saying, yeah, go ahead, put your shield up.

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Speaker 2: Like I think they thought there were things we needed

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Speaker 2: that could give Trump what he wanted, which is security

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Speaker 2: for the United States, and he claims security for the world.

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Speaker 2: So if they can give the United States as much

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Speaker 2: larger military presence in Greenland, to have some of the

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Speaker 1: And he did want to have a discussion with NBC

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Speaker 2: Which does he realize that he appears in that sense

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Speaker 3: That That is literally a two year old tantrum. I

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know if he really realizes that. I

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Speaker 1: ended eight wars. How many times have you heard that

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Speaker 1: The United States of America in hot pursuit of Greenland,

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Speaker 3: Prize, so you owe me this.

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Speaker 1: So I ain't got to think about peace no more.

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Speaker 2: Keep saying this. That's gangster. That is gangster mentality. It

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Speaker 1: But does he have a case to make Robes Nobel

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Speaker 3: I think he's up to.

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half. Now, doesn't he say like eight?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what the extra was.

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Speaker 2: Conflict, war of words, not an actual physical fighting situation.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, all right, And the ones that he does get

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Speaker 1: But that's one where they give him credit, okay, for

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Speaker 1: But again eight overwhelmingly, folks will tell you that's a stretch.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get nominated again next year and there will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this point, because he's used such strong

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Speaker 1: You might have to. He's done it on few rare

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Speaker 2: We will certainly keep our eye on this developing story.

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Speaker 3: There seems to be new Greenland headlines every day.

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Speaker 2: Never thought I would say that in my professional career,

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Speaker 2: but we'll be on it. We appreciate you as always

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Speaker 2: listening to us. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside my partner TJ.

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Speaker 3: Holmes. We will talk to you soon