1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian don't be afraid to come on live radio. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: It's it's you know. We still hear that quite often. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: We kind of make it easy. We're not here to 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: pet you up. We're here to just help educate you 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: and everybody else. And we learned to the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Now one of the nice things about Volkswagen. Let me 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: check it hasn't frozen over yet. I'm saying something nice 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: about Volkswagen. I suppose we shouldn't know. I'm better than 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: to trust you Volkswagen. After all, you invited the b 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: W Bug, the car whose very appearance makes people punch 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: their friends. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: five five five six and now he running. Hey, come 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: on in, sit down, Ronal ending in the Car Doctor. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by. Phone number here is eight five 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero. As always, you can find 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: us out online. Car Doctor show dot com. You'll find 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: links there to tune in dot com, i heeart dot com, 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: iTunes dot com, and if you need me during the 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: week Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. What do 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: you do when you have to fix the unfixable? It 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: happens a lot, and you know, it seems like lately 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: the the cars, that generation of cars that we're seeing 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: is kind of encroaching the Well, maybe it's time to 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: get rid of it, and maybe we shouldn't really work 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: on it, and well maybe maybe we should, but we've 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: got to be careful about how we go about it. 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Ford Expedition Wheezing its last as I like to think, 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: made its way to the doorstep of our automotive this week, 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: a once every five year customer because I'm the only 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: guy that he trusts. I'm not sure who's working on 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: it the rest of the time, but it just seems 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: to work out like that, and I understand it. You 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: know what it's people sometimes don't see that you do 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: everything else. They just think you're gonna sit there and 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: do the hardcore diagnostics and truth be told, you know, yeah, 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: I guess that's the way it kind of works out. 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not thrilled with it, and sometimes it's easier, 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: And it's definitely easier, I shouldn't say sometimes when you 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: know the vehicle that you see it on a regular basis, 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: it's easier to keep that customer and the car on track. 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: This expedition had a misfire, had a misfire on cylinder four. 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: And the problem was that the quote unquote regular mechanic 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: that had been doing all the other stuff, all the 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: other stuff, decided he couldn't work on it, didn't want 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to work on it. Maybe was confused by it. I'm 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: not sure, but somehow it ended up on my doorstep. 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: It was simple enough to me. It had a P 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: zero three oh four P zero three or four. If 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: you've been a listener to this radio show for low 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: than six months by now, you know a three series 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: fault code with a number at the end is a 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: is a miss on that particular cylinder. It was a 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: misfire on cylinder four, and I gotta go about diagnose it. 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: What a really neat tool about a year ago. In 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: addition to the scope, it's a it's a it's a paddle. 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: It kind of looks like a a long ping pong paddle. 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: But it's got a very small pad. It reminded me 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: of something when I was in the hospital not too 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: long Remember when I hit my head. You know they 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: tape to your heart. It's like a heart monitor. It 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: just feels the pulse it. It kind of reminded me 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: of that. And you lay this on top of the 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: ignition coils and you can actually take a reading off 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: the coil looking at the firing voltage, and I'll put 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: a pattern up on the scope and it's it's sort 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: of a nice quick way to do things and at 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: least give you a direction where do you want to go. 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: We had a misfire on cylinder four. Scope the coils 74 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: at least the right bank. I can't say a scope 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: every coil on the left bank because it was so 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: difficult to get to, but I so a regular pattern 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: on the first three number four coil was dead. Nothing 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: was happening. It looked plugged in. Everything seemed like it 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: should be there. Cart truck had two or eight thousand 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: plus miles on it had power on the feed side. Okay, 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: you know what, Let's get the coil out. Let's see 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: where we're going. The result of trying to pull that 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: coil out is on the Facebook page that that that 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: picture you see is my left hand that was scraped 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: and cut up. Because over the course of the last 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: twenty years or eighteen years of this truck being on 87 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: the road, things have been moved around and pushed around. 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: The battery didn't have a cap on it, the main 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: junction block was missing, and wires were hanging and dangling, 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: and the cables going out to feed everything inside the vehicle. 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: We're not in the proper position, so it was a 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: little tough to do. Got the coil out, scraped all 93 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the mud off that was on it. Took a eighteen 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: inch blowgun, bent the tip at a right angle, put 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: it down on the spark plug well because I could 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: see with a mirror that the well was filled with 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: mud and crud. Blew all the mud out and after 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes of figuring out the right let's see, 99 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I need this depth socket, this depth extension, this size ratchet. 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I was able to get a socket on there and 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: proceeded to try and pull the plug the plug. The 102 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: removal of the plug was easy. The plug was loose, 103 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: was rattling around in the threads. Why it didn't blow 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: out well, I guess it's this guy's advantage because had 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: it it might have ruined the cylinder hadn't been an 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: even bigger problem. Fresh plug, fresh coil, put it together, 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: and while I had the connector off, I could actually 108 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: go at it and look for a signal there on 109 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: the primary side, no signal. I had power. Where's the 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: ground traced back the wiring harness on the feet side. 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: And you've got to love these things that people, you know, 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: the posers, as I like to say, that think they're 113 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: fixing cars. Somebody used a butt connector a butt connector 114 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: similar to what you might use putting together speaker wire 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: when you were installing a radio back in the seventies, 116 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: exposure to the elements wide open, barely hanging onto the wires. 117 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: They had used a butt connect, and that butt connect 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: was broken. The wire had dislodged itself from the coil 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: some time ago. And I didn't feel bad about changing 120 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the coil because the coil was covered in monty and 121 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I had three cracks down on the bottom of the case, 122 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: and it told me the coil was if it wasn't 123 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: bad bad, it was on its way because it was 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: original A two thousand miles and the plug had been 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: changed somewhere in the life of this car, but you 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: could see that it had started to rust in the 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: head and disintegrate. Now the problem was how do you 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: fix And when I tell you it was tight, somebody 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: needs to yell how tight was it? It was so 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: tight here it comes. It was so tight that if 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: it was a room, you were standing and you have 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: to go outside to change your mind, because it was just, 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, don't quit my day job. It was a 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: very small, confined area. But the problem was, how do 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: you reach that the wiring harness comes off the back 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: of the cylinder head? How do you find that ground 137 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: lead back there where they were trying to splice in 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: the answer, you don't you find it up front? Broke 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: out a wiring diagram, went to pin fifty three, the 140 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: PCM which was the pink light green, and traced it 141 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: forward pink light blue. The other one was red green, 142 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the power was red green, the feet side, the control 143 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: side was pink and light green, pink and blue, and 144 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: brought it forward. Found that ground point and connector one 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: fourteen in the passenger side rear corner of the engine 146 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: compartment broke this broke the wire there, snipped it, spliced 147 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: in a new connector with a new feed, soldered it in, 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: which is the way it should be on heat, shrunk it, 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: wrapped it in silicon tape for weather proof, tucked it 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: back in the harness, connected it in low and behold 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: the truck ran on all eight cylinders. And why didn't 152 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you know it? The customers shows to pick it up. 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: And when I explained everything to him, he looks at 154 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: me and is it really fixed? I don't know. Let's 155 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: go outside and see. We went outside, started up. He says, gee, 156 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: it sounds good. And I said, here's the ultimate test. 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Put my hand over the tail pipe. It wasn't blah 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah anymore than miss wasn't there. And 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: he said, m I guess you can fix cars. How 160 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: about that? How about that? Hello? And welcome Ron and 161 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. The things I have to 162 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: put up with on a weekly basis, it's just beyond 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: my comprehension. Why why I do it sometimes? Here to 164 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: take your calls and answer your questions. Zero. The point 165 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: of that was that it's not emotional. We were talking 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: about emotion and and gut checks the last hour. In 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: terms of diagnostic routine, it has to be about step 168 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: by step diagnosis. And Steve had written in from Cincinnati 169 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and we were talking about that last hour. My diagnostic routine, 170 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: it varies by car. You can't follow it each and 171 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: every time. Did I check fuel pressure on that expedition, No, 172 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a fuel pressure problem. I 173 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: did scan it for codes. I did look at fuel trim. 174 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: I saw a fuel trim erratic on the right bank 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: telling me that oxygen was in excess and that yeah, okay, 176 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the miss was there, whether it was mechanical fuel or ignition. 177 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I did listen with a stethoscope. I could hear the 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: injector that sounded the same on number four, the same 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: as it did on one, two, and three on that side. 180 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: So diagnostic routine, it's not exactly the same every time, 181 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: but it does have some consistencies to it. I guess 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to leave it there and lay it 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: like that. But anyway, we are here to take your calls. 184 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: At zero zero. Let's sub pull, overtake the pause. When 185 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: the car doctor returns, will open the garage doors up. 186 00:09:52,240 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Hey, welcome back. Why don't any of the 187 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: car doctor. Let's kick open the garage doors this hour, Harry, 188 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Who do you have for me today this hour? By 189 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: the way, looking um, looking a little dapper. I understand 190 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: your ladies coming up to visit in two weeks. Uh 191 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: uhh yeah, Well, what what's the what's the shake of 192 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: the head? No, and it's yes or no, Harry. It 193 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: was a surprise, but it was a surprise. Why who 194 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: are we trying to surprise that? Never? You mind? So? Yeah, 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. Yeah, yeah, How many girlfriends do you 196 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: have this week? How many girlfriends do you have this? 197 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: We only have one to love in my life. Yeah, 198 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: that's you know. Uncle Steve used to say that you 199 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: ever learn how Uncle Steve, let me tell you about 200 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: let me tell you on national radio. Go ahead, right, 201 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: let me tell you. It's like I've had volkswagons all 202 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: these years. I was praying for a Ford and God 203 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: gave me a Lamborghini. That's all you have to say. Now, 204 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: let's get onto business here, shall we? Oh? Yes, let's 205 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: is that? Yeah? Sure? When did I lose control of 206 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: the show today? Go ahead, Harry? What do you got? 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: All right? Tom is calling from Mount Salon, Virginia. He's 208 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: got a Jetta, a Frontier, Anemiata and the little meeces 209 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: to pieces, remember Mr Jinks, the cats, those meeces to pieces. 210 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: They're tearing up all the wires under the hood, the insulation, 211 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: everything else. I hey, that's a good question. Yeah, that's 212 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: a great question. Okay, let's see what's going on here, Tom, 213 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. And as the stomach turns, 214 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the new soap opera here for the airwaves. How can 215 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: I help you, sir? Well, uh, I think you've got 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: the clue. It's it's mice under the hood. I live 217 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: in a rural area. I think the extended warm fall 218 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: and so forth kept those mice moving. And another fact, 219 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: we park outside on gravel. But all three vehicles have 220 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: evidence of mice underneath. They've gotten in the insulation. They 221 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: have not torn up any wires yet. That's a good thing. 222 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: A couple of things, A couple of things I can try. 223 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Um do you do you do you have any any 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: other critters around? I'm sure you do if you're in 225 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: a rural area. Well, there's a lot of cows, and 226 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I have a dog. I don't have a cat. Maybe 227 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: I should get one. Maybe should get one, although I 228 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know my two cats, I have two cats. I 229 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: still have to have an exterminator come to to set 230 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: the mouse traps and get rid of the mices. So yeah, 231 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: and they've been had in our house this year. This 232 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: has been probably the worst year we've ever had. Um 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: uh stuff the mouthball or two up in the car 234 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: installation where they got in the worst. Um. But I 235 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: don't is there anything else to do other than being 236 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: vigilant and checking under the hood every day or so well, 237 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: get them out there. What I'll do you the mothballs 238 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: is a great idea. What I'll do is I'll throw 239 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: a couple that you do a couple in a plastic 240 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: bag and take an ice pick or a sharp punch 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and just punch holes in the bag and then throw 242 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: that under the hood. Uh, that would work. That would 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: do it. You know, the smell might be a little 244 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: obnoxious in the car. Um, so that's that's an issue. 245 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: But one of the things you can try. Honda actually 246 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: came out with it, and it's quite expensive. Part number 247 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: four zero one nine DASH, I believe is the part number. 248 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: You can just google search Honda mouse or Honda rodent 249 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: tape and it'll come up. It's somewhere between thirty and 250 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: forty roll. And what you can do is, you know, well, 251 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: if you're making a wiring harness repair, you can use 252 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: that as the repair tape. But what I like to 253 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: do in certain situations is take that tape and wrap 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: under the hood. Don't go don't go a one for 255 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: one rap, do a loose wrap, so you spread it 256 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: out over the higher wiring harness in the areas where 257 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna be prone to chew. And it 258 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: is a it is a rodent repellent tape. It's got 259 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: a acousticness to it that will actually if they bite 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: into it, they're gonna be like you know, it'd be 261 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: like biting in and heating. Um. Let's see cauliflower. Uh, 262 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: because I personally I'm not a cauliflower kind of guy. Um. No, 263 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: not cauliflower. Um. Brussels sprouts, that's the thing. Brussels sprouts. Yeah, 264 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: Tom Tom likes brussel sprouts but not me. Um. But 265 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: it will it will cause them to be like to 266 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: the pewee. So Honda rodent tape. You can probably find 267 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: it out on Amazon, but you can definitely find it 268 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: at your local Honda dealer and that can help remove 269 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: them as well. Okay, all right, sir, that's that's a 270 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: big help. I'm gonna keep my eye on it and 271 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: and if it keeps up, I'm gonna get the tape. 272 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Get the tape, because I'll tell you what, you'd be 273 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: amazed at the damage animals can cause. And it does 274 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: not take long for them to really get in, and 275 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: then they can get in their seeds and twigs and 276 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: stuff underneath, you know, some of the plastic covers. And 277 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: one of the things my exterminator tells me, and we're 278 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: in a rural area, but not too rural, but um, 279 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things he tells me is 280 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: sometimes setting traps around the house, even on the outside. 281 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: We have we have roading boxes outside. Will you know, 282 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: put tip the scales in your favor, so to speak, 283 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: so that it's just enough that you catch enough of them, 284 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: get rid of enough of them. The rest um have 285 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: enough of a food supply elsewhere that they don't have 286 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: to start looking under the hood. Because they love the 287 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: They love the the material that the wiring harnesses is 288 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: made from. They enjoy that taste and that's the idea 289 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: behind the road and tape that it takes that taste 290 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: away from them. Um, so you know, just something to 291 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: think about, all right, sir, All right, Ron, thank you 292 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: very much. You're very welcome. You're very welcome, and happy 293 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: New Year. Let's go and talk to Bob Phillisburg, New Jersey. Robert. 294 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: I bet we got I bet you got a Volkswagen question. 295 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Yes I do. How did I know that the U 296 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: N sixty five Volkswagen Beetle? Uh? Who was? I flat 297 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: towed it with the Volkswagen Rabbit convertible last week for 298 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: about forty miles. Oh, you should have seen it was 299 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: It was awesome. I kept on having this little blue 300 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Beetle follow me. But anyway, I took it to my 301 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: friends repair shop because the two wheel cylinders and everything, 302 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: and I help him out with computer work. So I 303 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: end up getting free lift time and I'm gonna pull 304 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: the motor out and replace the lol cooler seals, crankshaft seal, 305 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: make sure the clutch is okay, But what should I 306 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: be using for engine oil? Well, if memory serves me correct, 307 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: back in the day, it was a ten forty way 308 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: back when. Yeah, back in sixty five and I don't 309 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna find a ten forty anymore. And 310 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I would be talking to some of the vintage oil 311 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: suppliers in terms of additives and formulation so that you 312 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: have correct formulation for that engine that's a flat tap 313 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: at motor if ninety five, that was a solid lifter camp. 314 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I remember spending high school adjusting vowels on a friend's 315 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Volkswagen forever. It was like I was underneath it in 316 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: the parking lot all day long, and um, you know 317 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: you want to be you want to just be mindful 318 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: of that, you know. I've never I've never really thought 319 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: about the need for a zinc editive in an old 320 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Volkswagen engine. But I guess the argument is there that 321 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: if if you know, if it's a flat tap at 322 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: motor um, it has to have zinc just like everything else. 323 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: So I would think you're gonna have to look for 324 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: something in the correct viscosity with a zinc additive that's 325 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: formulated for that. I would think it's probably not too 326 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: hard to find, Bob. There's a there's a big market, 327 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's a big following for old older Volkswagons, 328 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: older eatles like that. I would. I would think some 329 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: trips around the internet will turn it up for you 330 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: and uh, um, you know, kind of take it from there. 331 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: The other the other question I have and somebody had 332 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: given me, believe it or not, as a set of 333 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: tires the correct size five sixty and they were taken 334 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: off and back in sixty three or sixty four. They 335 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: were taken off a brand new car. And these tires 336 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: have never been on the road. I guess they would 337 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: be all right, maybe to use for a spare tire. Yeah, 338 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't see it as a you know, as a 339 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: long term solution, Bob, because at the age I'll tell 340 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: you what, Robert, pull over and let's take a plus 341 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: sit with me through the plause and we can kind 342 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: of ponder this when we come back. I don't want 343 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: to rush this question. Um, I don't want to get 344 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: you off here real quick. I'm on an any of 345 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Robert and I will both be back 346 00:18:51,720 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: right after this start. Zero zero is the phone number seven. 347 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: Call leave a message fast, Harry. We'll call you back 348 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: if we're not on the air and get you in 349 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: queue for the following live broadcast Saturday afternoons to to 350 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: four pm. Eastern time. Let's get back to Bob Phillipsburg, 351 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Robert, you're still there, sir. You know the 352 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: concern I've got is, just like you said, the age 353 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: of the tires. The tires are from sixty four. Uh 354 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't trust them to be on the 355 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: road as a spare, as a display piece, sure, why not. 356 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: But beyond that, um, other than that, I think they're 357 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: just a kind of a throwback. It's funny when you 358 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: look at them, how skinny the tires were, and uh, 359 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a testimony to what cars have 360 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: become in the designs from which they sprang. I did 361 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I did find online? Uh Coker, Okay, you are a 362 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Coker tire? Yeah yeah, yeah, Nope, nope. And do you 363 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: know why because they don't have they don't have to 364 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: be they've got them. You know. It's the golden rule 365 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: with the one with the gold makes the rules. Yeah, 366 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: and uh you know they do have they do have 367 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: the tires. Coker has been around forever in the vintage 368 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: car industry, and uh they do got just about everything 369 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen people go looking for. But not 370 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: bashful at all. Are they quality? Tires. Yeah. Um, I 371 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of people that use them and they're 372 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: happy with them. It's just you know, they've either purchased 373 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: the mules or they've purchased the ability to reproduce. I 374 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: would just question, as I tell everyone, when you're looking 375 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: at a vintage tire, where is that tire made? Is it? 376 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Is it US manufactured? Is it off shore? And uh, 377 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: you know, if it was off shore, I've got issues 378 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: with that, as we do on anything made off shore. 379 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: We're we're and what and who? But in some cases 380 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: we have no choice. M hm. And I a question. 381 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: I have real quick gasoline. You know, way back when 382 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: in you know, we had leaded gas and I believe 383 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: the octane rating was what nine, Well it was higher 384 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: than what it was, but the octane rating was done 385 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: differently than the way that it's done today. For me, 386 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: for my money, Bob, I would, I would. I would 387 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: think that car is going to be very fussy and 388 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: particular on fuel. And I think it's gonna be a 389 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: little bit of a of a science project finding a 390 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: brand that runs well and a blend or octane level 391 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: that runs well. And I wouldn't be afraid to start 392 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: with a premium fuel and work my way down, not 393 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: while you can still get it. And and I would 394 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: also consider using a fuel system cleaner on a regular basis. Uh, 395 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, something something like a CRC one tank power 396 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: renew or a techron fuel product, something that will keep 397 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: the tank clean just because of carbon issues. I out. 398 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait till the first time when I pulled 399 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: up to a gas station and see how long it 400 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: takes them to find a gas cut. I can tell 401 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: you how much it takes to fill the gas tank 402 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: on a Volkswagen Beetle. If a Volkswagen Beetle is below 403 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: an eighth of a tank and gases twenty nine cents 404 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: a gallen, they will take three dollars and twelve cents. 405 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: And that's and that's filled right now. And I'm not kidding, 406 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: that's filled right to the top. I know because I 407 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: used to pump gas back then and that that was 408 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: the most I ever put in the Beetle. I remember 409 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: that to this day. Three dollars and twelve cents is 410 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: what it would take to fill up the car. And 411 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: then I would see the guy in another week. So 412 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of fun with this car 413 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: because it will be a daily driver. Now good, I'm 414 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: glad to hear it. Robert. Let me get onto my 415 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: next call. And uh, always always a pleasure to hear 416 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: from you. And you have yourself. A good rest of 417 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the weekend and a good week next week. And we 418 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: look forward to continued conversations. Bob from Phillisburg, New Jersey. 419 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Always always a great time and Bob is a long 420 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: time listener. Let's get and talk to Ralph. Detroit, Maine. 421 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Is that right, Detroit Main? Ralph, yes, route Detroit Main. 422 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: There you go. I've never heard of Detroit, Man. What 423 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: part of the state is that? It's between the waters 424 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: there and bangor? Okay, okay, how can I help you today? Sir? Well, 425 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: I haven't automatic and I can't keep the fuel pressure up. 426 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: You know when you just turn the key on and 427 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: cycle it and it should say it pounds right and 428 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: it drops right down. Okay, as soon as the pump stops, 429 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: it drops down to almost zero. Right, and let me 430 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you can keep that pressure up. Okay, that's running. It 431 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: runs good. Okay, let me and let me say that 432 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: that the pump turning off is correct. If you if 433 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: you sit there, key on, engine off, it will prime 434 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: for two to three seconds and then stop the pump, 435 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: but it should hold pressure. So so the question here 436 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: is where is it losing the residual? Where is it 437 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: bleeding off? This is a port fuel injected engine in 438 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: eighty six, okay, individual injectors. There should be a return 439 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: line in six. We didn't have returnless fuel systems back then. 440 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: We're going to have to one. One of the things 441 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: we would normally do is find a rubber section of 442 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: hose and pinch it off. Does does it does it 443 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: maintain pressure? If it maintains okay, if it maintains pressure, 444 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: then we've got to start to look up the line. 445 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: The pressure regulator should be upwind of where we pinch 446 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: it off. I would be considering a pressure regulator as 447 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: a possible source if it can. Okay, okay, did you 448 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: pinch off the line yet? Though? Yeah, that's the next step, 449 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: because I was gonna say if if it doesn't hold pressure, 450 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: going back the other way or there should be a 451 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: check valve in the pump itself as well, and if 452 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: the system drops pressure, then I would say that we've 453 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: got a problem with the check valve in the pump, 454 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: and you need a pump assembly or a pump well, 455 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: I pump in it, okay, a pump assembly, just pump it, okay, 456 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: because you know, looking at and I would if you 457 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: go through, if you're going through this back and forth, 458 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: you've got to stop to consider do we have a 459 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: pinhole leak somewhere, especially on something so old in terms 460 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: of the tubing inside the tank that the pump is 461 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: attached to, and and consider that if you take that 462 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: pump assembly out and just look at it closely, is 463 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: there a way to put liquid through it? Block the 464 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: one end and look to see if you see see 465 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: page anywhere, you're looking for a needle in a haystack. 466 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: Ralph is what it is. What it comes down to 467 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: say again, I've I've run the truck. I've done it 468 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: for it doesn't matter right, it's it's you know, it's 469 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: it's it's twenty and that's thirty years old. And is 470 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: it thirty years old? It is thirty years old. So 471 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: we've got to be mindful of rust. You know, you're 472 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: going about it the right way. You've got the skill 473 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: in the will my friend. Um, you've just got to 474 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: look a little deeper. There's there's got to be a 475 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: pinhole somewhere letting the fuel bleed off, and the fact 476 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: that it's not you're not smelling fuel, then I would 477 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: say that we've probably got something dumping back in the tank, 478 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: or last possibility, we've got an injector that's just hanging 479 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: open a little bit and it's allowing the fuel to 480 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: leak out that way. Yeah, I was thinking that very 481 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: it seems well, yeah, and I understand that, but it doesn't. 482 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't take much for it to bleed off. The 483 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: only way you're gonna know that, though, is to pull 484 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: the fuel rail out of the engine with the injectors 485 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: hooked up and prime the pumping sea Does anybody leak 486 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: fuel out of the bottom of the injector or do 487 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: an inject or bleed down test one at a time 488 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: watching fuel pressure. Does anybody make a difference here? Yes 489 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: or no? You know. Sometimes, back when there were more 490 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: of these, we would hook up adapters and provide a 491 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: separate fuel source and a separate fuel pump depending upon 492 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle. We would get very creative and just do 493 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: it on vehicle pressure test using fuel pressure to see 494 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: does one injector flow better than the others and diagnose 495 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: it from there. So there's only three possibilities regulator, pump 496 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: lines actually four, and injectors. It's it's got to be 497 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: somewhere between the four of them. So, and of course, 498 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: keeping in mind you've done a new pumping a new regulator. 499 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: New doesn't mean good, New means never ever worked, So 500 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: I always consider that. Don't just assume because you've changed it. 501 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: Tell me the part where you tested it, and then 502 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: I'll say, all right, let's move on to the next possibility. 503 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero nine zero zero. Run on any 504 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Hey, 505 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: welcome back, ning of the car doctor. Eight five zero 506 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's get some phone calls going. Let's go 507 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: over and talk to Stu Springfield, Illinois. Line to Stu, 508 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doc. For sure. How can I help? 509 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Thank you? I got an O five up Lander purchased used, 510 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: got about add on it? Um, I got a transmission 511 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: service question. I don't know. It's a shifting fine and 512 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: operates fine everything. I don't know if it's ever any 513 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: service done on it, and says service and now the 514 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: independent mechanics says leaveing a loan service and now would 515 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: lead to problems. Well, the question is when do you 516 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: want to find out that it's a problem now or 517 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: when you've got your family loaded in at three o'clock 518 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: in the morning going off on a fishing trip. That's 519 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: an easy one, right. So it's if it were me, 520 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: I would change it now, all right, And I want 521 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: to know when there's going to be a problem, and 522 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: and changing the fluid is gonna tell me that, Um 523 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: it may it may not. I mean, obviously you're not 524 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: afraid of buying something older and driving something older because 525 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: you just bought this and if it needed a trans 526 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: and it was another two grand or at dollars, whatever 527 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it is, it's not gonna tell you I don't want 528 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: the car you've if you've already got it. Um But 529 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I tend to look at cars as component level, 530 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: all right, And you know, at a hundred thousand miles, 531 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I owe the car. Trans It seems 532 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: like we've made it. We've made engines to go three 533 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles, Transmissions not so much. I expect the 534 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: trends between a hundred and a hundred and fifty, and 535 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: if I get more than that out of it, I 536 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: can count you know. I'm lucky. I did my maintenance, 537 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: my due diligence worked out, and yeah, I get it. 538 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Some transs go two hundred thousand miles, you know what, 539 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: they still have to have fluid changed in the majority 540 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: of cases, or the filter and all that this should 541 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: be that this should be the smaller GM trans with 542 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: the pan and no dip stick, and you're gonna pull 543 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: the ten millimeter the eleven millimeter out the side and 544 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna drip out through the side. I'm gonna say 545 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: I would start with a fluid change, just change fluid 546 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: and filter and then come back in ten thousand miles, 547 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: drop the pan and change that fluid and into an exchange. 548 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Doing an exchange on that's a little involved, So if 549 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: he can't get into it, I would just change the 550 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: fluid again in ten thousand miles and monitor it that way. 551 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: One one last thought, this particular trans has, if it's 552 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: the one I'm thinking of, and I'm pretty sure it is, 553 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: has the propensity that the there's tubes inside the pan area. 554 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: When they lower the pan down, there are some hydraulic 555 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: tubes that are gonna be up in the area where 556 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: the valve body once was just above the filter. Just 557 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: tell them to look very carefully at those tubes where 558 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: they braise the bracket, the support bracket to it. They're 559 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: known for pinholes as they get older, and if there's 560 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: any signs of wearer damage or fatigue, they will change 561 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: those tubes as well. It will cause a shift problem 562 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: and be an issue for you somewhere down the line. 563 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: All right, sir, you're very welcome. Still, you take good 564 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: care of a good rest of the weekend. Let's get 565 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: over and talk to Trevor up and said, oh wait, 566 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: buick on clave. Trevor. Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 567 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: how can I help? Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. Yeah, 568 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: it's a two thousand eight un clave. Uh. We purchased 569 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: it used, it's got a hundred and twenty eight thousand 570 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: miles on it, and last week it developed an issue 571 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: where it will not shift into second gears. Okay, And 572 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: your question is why or your question is next step? Well, 573 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: the first I guess the first question would be, um, 574 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: why we we were looking into some of the possible issues. 575 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: The transmission that's in that car has some known issues. 576 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: But I guess more specifically, the question that we had 577 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: was I could recommend a particular scanner for a code 578 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: reader that would uh, that would be able to home 579 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: in on what might be happening. Well, And keep in mind, 580 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: a scanner is gonna give you, you know, and a scanners. 581 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: You've definitely got a scanner. If you're gonna try and 582 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: work on this yourself, you've got to have a scan toil. 583 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: You've got to have the ability to get in there 584 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and and see what's going on. But it's it's going 585 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: to give you a third of the picture before you 586 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: start having to do some other testing. And you know 587 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: that becomes an issue. I'll tell you what, Trevor. Let 588 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: me pull over and take the pause, and I don't 589 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: want to rush this. Just sit tight. Let me do 590 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: this quick pull off to the side, and we'll be 591 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: back right afterwards. I'm runing any in the car, doctor, 592 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: don't go away, welcome back. Why don't they need in 593 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: the card octa her wine and things down this hour, Trevor, 594 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir oh eight buick enclaves some transmission 595 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: issues not shifting into second gear. So does it shift 596 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: one to three? No? It uh? It basically right there 597 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 1: uh at first and it won't shift right. It won't pist, 598 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: it won't shift past, it won't shift past first gear, 599 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: and it just hangs and flares the engine. Okay, first things, 600 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: first scan tool. I like Launch, uh you know, and 601 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: this is all hands on stuff. I'm using it in 602 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: the shop. I like the Launch any of the Launch stuff, 603 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: the X four thirty one, which is their older platform, 604 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: the Pad two which is their newer platform. They make 605 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: some really neat stuff to CRP two nine, really good 606 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: scan tools. Will they fit and do everything you wanted 607 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: to do? You've got to look at it because there's 608 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: a price point at at at where things are in 609 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: the tool and where things are not. We just had 610 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: more than a couple of listeners have gotten back to us. 611 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: They've gone out and they've purchased the X four thirty one, 612 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: the older version Windows XP platform. So you might find 613 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: something used online. You might find it cheaper from one 614 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: of the supply houses to make it more price point comfortable, 615 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: because obviously a full fledged scan tool you'll be five 616 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. And I don't think you want to 617 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: do that yet. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Um, 618 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: but we like right, we like the Launch stuff. Um, 619 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can also find some scan tools out 620 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: online other manufacturers. Uh, the OTC Genesis, was it not 621 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: the Yeah, the Genesis, I'm sorry. The Genesis and the 622 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: Genesis EVO was a good scan tool for its day, 623 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: and this is older technology. You might find some of 624 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: those because a lot of repair shops now are upgrading. 625 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: They're they're realizing they've got to get into this part 626 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: of the century and use use computer PC based diagnostics 627 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: because that's the future. That's where it's going. Um. As 628 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: far as what could be wrong with this, this could 629 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: be anything from a problem with the trans control module 630 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: inside the trans self to a problem with the control 631 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: solenoid for first or second gear. Uh. There is one 632 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: bulletin if you want to know about where components already 633 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: have a pencil, handy, get a get to take a 634 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: look at GM bulletin Oh seven dash O seven DASH 635 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: thirty DASH O twenty five, and it's just general information 636 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: on how that transmission transaction is constructed. That's the four 637 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: TT or the four forty five, whichever one you've got, 638 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: and I think you're the forty UM that'll talk about 639 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: solenoid location and component location and some of the things 640 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: that can go wrong. But first things first, get a 641 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: scan tool. I think you're probably gonna find yourself, uh 642 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: in terms of codes with a seven fifty two. Uh, 643 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: it sounds like it from the fact that it doesn't 644 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: shift into second or maybe in eight seventy two, and 645 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: that bulleton will help you tell you where you gotta 646 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: go next. After that, Trevor, the clock is gonna take me. 647 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'll run any of the car 648 00:36:50,840 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you seven