WEBVTT - Free Agency, Part II

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your host, Paul. Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Scharchi, and my co host, as he frequently is

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<v Speaker 1>almost every week, Brian Johnson. Hi, Brian, what's up charge,

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<v Speaker 1>Good to talk to you again. Last week we dove

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<v Speaker 1>into free agency with quarterbacks and running backs. This week

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<v Speaker 1>we're focusing on wide receivers and tight ends. The tampering

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<v Speaker 1>period starts Monday, so it'll be fascinating to see where

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<v Speaker 1>these guys go. Who goes early, who goes late, has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of wide lot of wide receiver talent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the hitting the market and it's it's fascinating. And

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the wide receivers and the tight

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<v Speaker 1>free agents, let's let's mention this. This Cam Newton decision

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<v Speaker 1>by the Patriots and Bill Belichick baffling. Not a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>shocked they brought him back at any price, b at

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen million dollars. I mean, that's starter quarterback money for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy Bill Belichick benched three? Is it four times

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<v Speaker 1>during the season, Brian, I'm I just I'm stunned by this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it so many times. Bill Belichick GM undermines

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick head coach all the time. I have no words,

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<v Speaker 1>really my only this could just be the most Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever where he has lulled the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>a f C East into think he may have a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the Bills were the a f C championship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, is this like this like the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate Kaiser? So's a play by Bill Belichick bringing back

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Newton who he benched. There's three that I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of off the top of my head, and they

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<v Speaker 1>can not finished last year through so five touchdown passes

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I think it was a nine

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown past season, which is unfathomable. Now here's what this.

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<v Speaker 1>Apologists are saying, he had COVID. He was better before COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>that after COVID he was never the same guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>then it'll be further removed from COVID. Maybe bad receivers

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<v Speaker 1>and his his receivers were bad. The fair points, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the team had ten players on their COVID opt out

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<v Speaker 1>list was the most in the NFL. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>majority run defense. I think they had one offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>Um most of the you know, most of that was

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<v Speaker 1>was defense. Still, it's just you know, the eye test.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at Cam Newton and maybe the worst part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no guarantee Cam Newtons the starting quarterback Week one,

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<v Speaker 1>but at fourteen million dollars, he's in play for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Damien Harris. Ye, that's torpedoes his fantasy value. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the worst part of this. This is right up

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<v Speaker 1>your alley. Signs st Beard right transition you need, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would. I Belichick could go better than anybody he's faced.

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<v Speaker 1>He's faced Stu Beard so many times. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you need a transition quarterback to get you the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>to get you to whoever's next, whatever young kid you've

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<v Speaker 1>decided is your next up and coming quarterback, Ryan fit Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your guy. They don't have a they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>an option outside of canis As. It seems like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're out on DeShawn Watson. I guess if someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>trade for them, they're not gonna draft one of these

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're higher in the draft, and we ever see

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. I think they're picking nine. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's they It wouldn't take a lot from them to

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<v Speaker 1>get from like nine and nine might get them one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big four quarterbacks. It might. It probably won't,

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<v Speaker 1>but from them to get to nine to like six

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<v Speaker 1>to go get one, you know, is possible. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think cam Newton was the one who was most surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by this signing. It's got be like, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>found money. I mean, just I gotta believe in. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta believe he was prepping himself to be a backup

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<v Speaker 1>for two million dollars. Yeah, it's bizarre, unbelievable. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the free agent wide receivers. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of teams that have have wide receiver need.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna list them off briefly. I see it Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>which has we're gonna talk about older receivers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to free agents Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Houston, in the Vegas, Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>New England, the Giants, Jets, Philadelphia, Tennessee, in Washington. Alphabetically,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's your laundry list of teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>real need at wide receiver. These are all teams that

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<v Speaker 1>basically have got one receiver or less that they can

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<v Speaker 1>really count on. So given that as a backdrop, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at some of the available free agent wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers a little background and where what got them to

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<v Speaker 1>where they are today and ideal landing spots for each

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys. I've done all the talking so far, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll go first, Ken eat Holiday. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best name out of this crop, right, elite

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<v Speaker 1>level player, potentially on a Hall of Fame pace. The

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<v Speaker 1>Lions decision not to franchise Glidy is a clear sign

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<v Speaker 1>that they are in full blown rebuilding mode again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>perpetually rebuilding. And it is a team that's allowing its

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<v Speaker 1>number one, number two, and number three wide receivers from

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<v Speaker 1>this year all to walk in free agency. Unbelievable. They've

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<v Speaker 1>also forced one of the greatest wide receivers of all

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<v Speaker 1>time into early retirement and Calvin Johnson. And they also

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<v Speaker 1>drafted like five wide receivers in the first round in

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands, like multiple years. That was Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Millin's fault, of course, but yeah, curse that the wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver position essentially. Holiday played four full games last year

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<v Speaker 1>was weeks three through six. He was a killer. He

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<v Speaker 1>scored or topped one yards and all four of the

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<v Speaker 1>games he might have been the highest scoring wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in fantasy football on a per game basis. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>first four games, um and and he really he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really truly healthy for even any of those four games.

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<v Speaker 1>He played those four games hurt. It was hamstring injury

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of the year, and then the hip

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<v Speaker 1>injury that knocked him out for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>year after that. And it was an unfortunate season for

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Golladay. But he's more than proven himself as an

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<v Speaker 1>elite receiver. I think the ideal landing spot for him

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<v Speaker 1>is just any place with solid quarterbacking. The problem here is, though, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>the intersection of wide receiver needy teams with good quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>and who have requisite cat salary cap space is very small.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the only teams that I think are possible

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<v Speaker 1>landing spots. Houston with the Shawn Watson for the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill, Baltimore with Lamar Jackson and as

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<v Speaker 1>a sneaky one Las Vegas, because I think Derek car

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<v Speaker 1>is sneaky competent, So that's it. I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's only four really ideal landing spots for Kenny Golladay.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is Golladay he wants top tier wide receiver money,

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<v Speaker 1>which he deserves. It's gonna to get it, but he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't proven to stay healthy, and that's where there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a big disconnect. I feel like in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the market for teams asking price and what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to sign for. But uh, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>he plays sixteen full games, he's got wide receiver one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, top twelve wide receiver ability written all over him.

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<v Speaker 1>In redraft leagues, I think Kenny Golladay's value here is

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<v Speaker 1>medium high. His current ADP is only the fourth round

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<v Speaker 1>in these in early drafting, but he's got room to

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<v Speaker 1>go way up from there if he lands in the

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<v Speaker 1>right spot. I mean, if he goes to any place

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<v Speaker 1>with the competent quarterbacking, I think he goes, Kenny Golladay

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<v Speaker 1>could move as high as the second round. In dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also medium high here. He's only twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old, so he's really entering the prime of

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<v Speaker 1>his career, kind of in the prime and and and

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this next contract that will probably like a four

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<v Speaker 1>year contract, he'll be operating through the latter part of

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<v Speaker 1>the prime of his career. So I think he's good

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<v Speaker 1>for another three is years and I think Kenny Golladay

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<v Speaker 1>remains very valuable. Let's go to our our next free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, Will Fuller. Will Fuller till turns twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>in April, So, like Galladay, entering the prime of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>and despite only playing eleven games in twenty finished as

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver twenty four on a total points basis, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was tied for fifth in points per game because

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was going off and that that included

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<v Speaker 1>a Week two against Baltimore when he was literally blanked

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<v Speaker 1>zero catches. I think he might have had a target,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh was this on an incredible pace the points

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<v Speaker 1>per game pace, he was tied with A. J. Brown

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<v Speaker 1>for fifth, only trailed Stefon Diggs, Calvin Ridley, Tyree Kill

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<v Speaker 1>and Davante Adams and good company right there, very good company. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we all know, his season was cut short

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<v Speaker 1>because of the pe D suspension and before this year,

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<v Speaker 1>Galada had some trouble staying on the field. Fuller, but yes, Fuller, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my bead uh played eleven games in seven and ten seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>All it was always a hammy, I'm pretty sure for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. So did the p e D s

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<v Speaker 1>keep him healthy make him a better player? There's some

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<v Speaker 1>red flags there, but again he was going off last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was arguably the most reliable wide receiver in fantasy football,

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<v Speaker 1>and right now he's going off. The board is wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver twenty seven in Best Ball, So that caution is

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<v Speaker 1>it's out there, for sure, it is. And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>all the wide receiver needy teams, but ones ones that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't mention. I think the Packers and the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>are are else also in the monent for a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Packers for sure, about the Cardinals, but you're absolute right

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay should have been in that list. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk leaves, you know, the Texans love shipping, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cardinals love receiving Texans over from Houston J J.

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<v Speaker 1>Wat DeAndre Hopkins in the like. But man Golladay m

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying Gollady Fuller, Uh, he seems about right where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at. I'm not I'm not fully on board with

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<v Speaker 1>him staying healthy for a full sixteen game season without

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<v Speaker 1>the help of p DS. I know it was an

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<v Speaker 1>honest mistake. I'm not gonna throw him under the bus

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<v Speaker 1>too much, but I think his value is right about

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<v Speaker 1>right and uh in redraft and you gotta bump it

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit, a little bit in UH Dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just not sold. He's a every week player

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<v Speaker 1>that you can rely on. You know, where I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>him to go. I want his landing spot to be

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<v Speaker 1>wherever Deshaun Watson is. How about that? You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>Watson stays in Houston, I'd like will Fuller if to

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<v Speaker 1>sign with his original team. Actually, we don't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Arizona because Hopkins is there and Hopkins

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<v Speaker 1>always stabbed his talent outside his hands on hamstrings. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep him and Hopkins away from each other. They're

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<v Speaker 1>probably buddies, but they don't need to play together anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Ex Up Marvin Jones. Uh. He got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>extra volume due to Kenny Golladay's mostly missed season last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw career highs and targets and receptions last season.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with all that, Brian Marvin Jones didn't crack

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand yards despite being the go to receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>you know for at least twelve games. And here's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting staff that I came across. I believe he's the

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<v Speaker 1>only wide receiver with nine or more touchdowns in three

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<v Speaker 1>of the past four seasons, which is pretty shocking. He

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<v Speaker 1>finished last year's wide receiver fifteen. Not bad for Marvin Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Ideal ending spout from Rvin Jones any team where he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be the top receiver. Unlike Fuller and

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<v Speaker 1>Golliday that have proven they can be a top receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Jones can't. It's just you know, he had he

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<v Speaker 1>had good quarterback in for Matthew Stafford and wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a thousand yards last season. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a number one. He feels like a number two.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he could go to Baltimore behind Holliday, behind

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<v Speaker 1>uh Hollywood Brown. He could go to Chicago behind Allen Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami behind Parker, the Giants behind Sterling Shepherd and Darius Slayton,

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee behind A. J. Brown, Washington behind McLarin. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see him be a regular number two like he

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<v Speaker 1>was for Kenny Golladay. What about Green Bay alongside Green Bay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>green Bay. Davante Adams perfect, I love. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>double revenge game angle for any player. Marvin Jones readraft

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<v Speaker 1>value is medium low. I think unless he falls into

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect spot in his dynasty, value is low. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty one year old and he's entering his tenth season,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you forget he played four years for

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati that we don't even remember anymore. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was John Kittener throwing him the ball or something

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. But Scott Mitchell maybe even knowing not

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<v Speaker 1>that old, not that old, but Scott Mitchell was Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he finish his career in Cincinnati? And I forgot?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were talking about Detroit quarterbacks still there now,

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<v Speaker 1>since that's how he got got crossed right there? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to us about Antonio Brown. It sounds like he'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to stay in Tampa. You would think he would

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay in Tampa because I'm not convinced he

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<v Speaker 1>can keep his head on straight without sharing bunk beds

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<v Speaker 1>with tom Brady. Tom Brady keep him in line, even

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<v Speaker 1>though Tom Brady is kind of like a drunk uncle

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<v Speaker 1>right about now. But yeah, Antonio Brown turns thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>in July, so he's more than based in the twilight

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<v Speaker 1>of his career for lack of better turn you see

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<v Speaker 1>a single play last year that you would describe as like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, game breaking, like Antonio Brown used to be

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<v Speaker 1>in his prime, not necessarily, but he did turn it

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<v Speaker 1>on towards the end of the year. Though. Here here's

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<v Speaker 1>a random stat though most games with ten plus catches

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history, Antonio Brown with the most, twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>with Andre Johnson, who never had a competent quarterbacks career

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<v Speaker 1>but but more pertinent to fantasy football last year in

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<v Speaker 1>in PPR points per snap, So this is essentially based

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<v Speaker 1>on how much you play, right, how many points you

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<v Speaker 1>produced per snap. Davante Adams was first at point for

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<v Speaker 1>eight PPR points per snap. God, that's a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>a per snap basis cheats, and then number two Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown really point three nine, right ahead of Tyreek Hill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean Brown didn't come into you know, come

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<v Speaker 1>into play into a week seven Week eight when Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay signed him, took some some time to get ramped up,

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<v Speaker 1>but again as a season war on, he he looked great.

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<v Speaker 1>That that helped with Mike Evans being hurt a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit late in the season. But uh, Brown looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not interested in him unless he stays in

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay. I think he's got to stay there too. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Baltimore and Miami or just my gut, like

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<v Speaker 1>those are places he could end up. I could see

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<v Speaker 1>them taking up a flyer on Antonio Brown with him,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not yet. The Dolphins maybe keep him in Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, I Antonio Brown in on South Beach

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a bad comb. It does, especially with the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, Brown his redraft value. He's going around

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver forty five. You're drafting him as a wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver three with upside. He's kind of more of a

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<v Speaker 1>best ball play. And when it comes to dynasty, he

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<v Speaker 1>has value, but not in a startup If I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>a start up draft, I'm not. I'm not drafting Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown anywhere. He's He's a wide receiver three reserve player

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<v Speaker 1>for a contend in dynasty. In an existing league, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a break when we come back. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other wide receivers and tight ends available in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. As I mentioned deep deep pool. We still

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<v Speaker 1>got guys like Juju Smith, Schuster, and Curtis Samuel to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. And that's just at the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Brian Johnson with you. You

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<v Speaker 1>can follow us on Twitter at Paul Charchion at b

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<v Speaker 1>t x J. Continuing with the wide receiver free agents,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Corey Davis finished his wide receiver twenty nine. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an all or nothing fantasy producer who generally fared

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<v Speaker 1>well against bad defenses, struggled against most of the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the league. He crushed to Jacksonville, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>His big games were not connected to A. J. Brown's health,

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<v Speaker 1>which was interesting. You know, you might have thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when AJA Brown was there, either did really well with

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Brown because Brown was sucking up all the

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<v Speaker 1>big you know, all the best UH coverage, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't do you would do better with A D. Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Ow it didn't. It turns out it didn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>H Pro Football Focus loved Corey Davis. They ranked him

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<v Speaker 1>as the eighth highest. They graded him eighth highest wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver eight by Pro Football Focus, immediately behind DeAndre Hopkins,

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Robinson, and Adam Feeland. Wow, that's some good company

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<v Speaker 1>right there. And the guy who was essentially left for

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<v Speaker 1>dead in draft season last year. He was like a

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<v Speaker 1>late round flyer for in most leagues, undrafted, undrafted in

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<v Speaker 1>most leagues. Yes, the ideal landing spot for him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Corey Davis feels like a wide receiver one

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<v Speaker 1>on any team. I think he's a wide receiver to

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<v Speaker 1>He did very little for three seasons before last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's going to give people a pause. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>like Marvin Jones, I think he's best suited when there's

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<v Speaker 1>another talent on the field, so he didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>try to be a number one, which he isn't. Baltimore, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, Miami, the Giants, Tennessee, Washington all makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The redraft value for Corey Davis here, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a medium low um. But he's still only twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>years old, so in dynasty and Empire leagues, Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a little more sense to roll the dice

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and I could see him going a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of rounds higher in the Dynasty League because he is

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<v Speaker 1>still so young. Yeah, he probably will still remain undervalued

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he ends up. He could blow up in your face,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still has very high stealing It was not

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<v Speaker 1>long ago he was the top wide receiver. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to Central Michigan, a smaller school and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a blue chip prospect not long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Juju Smith Schuster. This very podcast absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nailed that Juju Smith Schuster would be heading to free

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<v Speaker 1>agency last summer. We talked about it many times that

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<v Speaker 1>we thought that odd man out of that crowded wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver room was gonna be Juju Smith Schuster. And here

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<v Speaker 1>we are. He said it for a free agency Yeah, Juju.

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<v Speaker 1>Four seasons now he has played, and he just turned

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four November. Got incredibly young a season to vet

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty four years old and newly minted twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>year old. And last season it wasn't as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered, like off the top of my head, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was a huge bust. He did have some landmine games,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't as bad as I remembered, especially starting

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<v Speaker 1>from Week nine through the wild Card game, which was

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<v Speaker 1>ten games. He scored in seven of those ten games

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<v Speaker 1>and four of his last five. He became incredibly reliable.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, Pittsburgh letting him walk, and the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the team for Juju because I believe Jameson

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<v Speaker 1>Crowder might be leaving. I don't worry. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember that. We don't have talk Crowder, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. All the wide receiver needy teams should be

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<v Speaker 1>enticed by Juju because last year Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger

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<v Speaker 1>is in the twilight of his career too. Juju is

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<v Speaker 1>very intriguing for any wide receiver needy team. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>command twelve to fifteen million year as see him something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna need cap space too. I would not pay

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<v Speaker 1>him that much, but I wouldn't, but maybe some team will,

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<v Speaker 1>um I it'll be fascinating to see where he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a pure slot receiver, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that that really changes the window of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that could end up going after Juju. Smith Schuster

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<v Speaker 1>and right now, right now, and redraft, he's like wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver thirty. He's going after guys like Tyler Boyd, will Fuller,

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<v Speaker 1>who he talked about earlier, Cooper Cup, Brandon Aiyuk And

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<v Speaker 1>granted those guys might deserve to go ahead of Juju,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still met that range where he can outlive

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<v Speaker 1>that a DP And I don't think he's gonna blow

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<v Speaker 1>up in your face too much. He's not gonna bought

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<v Speaker 1>them ount entirely. So I like his value and redraft

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<v Speaker 1>and in Dynasty Tennessee, to me, would be the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>landing spot. So he gets Ryan Tannehill, highly competent quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and they need a slot receiver. They let Adam Humphreys go.

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<v Speaker 1>That would end up being a bad free agent contract

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<v Speaker 1>that they gave him, and you know, maybe they give up.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they tried Juju Smith Schuster. Curtis Samuel finished last

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<v Speaker 1>year's wide receiver twenty five, and he's actually been sneaky

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<v Speaker 1>productive for three seasons with seven seven and five touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year. He said career highs in receptions, yards, rushes,

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<v Speaker 1>and rushing yards for Curtis Samuel, and they use him

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<v Speaker 1>more in that jackknife role where they asked Samuel will

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of different things, which I love. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a true gadget player who can be used in

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<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of ways. Generally runs his routes from

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<v Speaker 1>the slot, but he's always been a hit or miss

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy producer and actually, last year, looking through his his

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<v Speaker 1>his game logs, his rushing production actually bailed him out

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<v Speaker 1>of some otherwise really bad games. And so if he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to run the ball wherever he goes, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be it would be fascinating to see what he could

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<v Speaker 1>end up doing, and that does end up saving you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. From a fantasy standpoint. The ideal landing

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<v Speaker 1>spot here is I think pretty broad. You know, Curtis

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel has proven he doesn't have to have a lead

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacking to be good because he has never He's never

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<v Speaker 1>had a lead quarterbacking And so all you gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>is find a spot with an open slot receiver role

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<v Speaker 1>like Green Bay, New England, Washington, Miami, Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. All of them have got open slot receiver spots.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, anybody any of those could work. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it really just depends on the team's willing. His fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>value depends on the team's willingness to use him in

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<v Speaker 1>the wide variety of ways that his skill set merits. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that wide receiver twenty five finishes impressive considering uh D J.

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<v Speaker 1>Moore and Robby Anderson who are playing over him. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>we're top twenty four wide receivers on a total points

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<v Speaker 1>breaking basis. So yeah, read draft value for Curtis Samuel's

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<v Speaker 1>medium low. He's unlikely to emerge as a focal point

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<v Speaker 1>of any passing attack. Uh in my mind, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the dynasty value is probably medium. He's still really young.

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<v Speaker 1>He's twenty four years old, and he's I just see,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of see. Curtis Samuel is a back off

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<v Speaker 1>your roster, bye week filling guy for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whatever team he goes to next, you periodically

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<v Speaker 1>start him and feel okay about it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's got a good matchups here and there and

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<v Speaker 1>you start him. But I don't know that i'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to have Curtis Samuel a is a every week starter.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like a guy a team is gonna overpay

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<v Speaker 1>for in the real world perspective. Sounds right, Um, final,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you see we're gonna talk about Nelson Aglare,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe it? I didn't think we know. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was done all last year, especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrrell Williams. Uh, the Raiders have like seven wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Nelson Agiler that you would consider more relevant

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.919
<v Speaker 1>drafted one, Brian Edwards, Yeah, Brian Edwards, and Henry Ruggs

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy who was gonna mention the first wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver taken in the in the draft last year. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you had big time whoopsie there. Uh, which we've pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out many many times over the course of this show

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>or since his tenure in the NFL. But Nelson Agilar

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<v Speaker 1>eight touchdowns last year, the eighth most among wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>same amounts guys like Stefan Diggs, Keenan Allen more touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>than guys like Justin Jefferson, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson Aglar and only on eighty two targets. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Stefon Diggs had like so it's to he he only

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<v Speaker 1>had about fifty catches nine hundred yards, but it's under

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>understandable that he only total those numbers on eighty two targets.

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<v Speaker 1>He was top eight in average depth of targets. He

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<v Speaker 1>just at fifteen plus yards. He just wasn't utilized a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and with the Raiders. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna go back to the Raiders because he essentially

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<v Speaker 1>called them out for their the whole team, for their

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<v Speaker 1>their their lack of effort towards the end of the ear.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing he was right, most likely. But wherever

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up, he's probably only going to see that

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>same eighty to ninety target share. He's not the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he moved out of the slot role where he

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<v Speaker 1>was rotting away in Philly. We used them more on

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<v Speaker 1>the boundaries with Vegas, but this is really where he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up. If he's the content, complimentary outside piece to

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 1>say Davante Adams in Green Bay, I'm more intrigued than

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<v Speaker 1>if he lands with the Giants and some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>muddled roll or something like that. But uh, he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>way more of a best ball play for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a guy to be targeting in redraft or Dynasty,

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>but in best ball he's womped in the mid sixties,

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>which makes him a wide receiver four ish type guy.

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>But uh dynasty. I think he's peaked essentially, but late

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>round flyer more so. In Bestall Nelson. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break when we come back the free agent

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>tight ends, and there's a bunch of good ones here too.

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just a crazy year. We'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>free agent tight ends, who matter and where we like

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>them to go, possible uh dynasty and redraft value for

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<v Speaker 1>the free agent tight ends coming up next. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Football Weekly. Third segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a free agent related show. We've already broken down

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and running backs last week, Wide receivers last two segments.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Now the tight ends. We've got one, two, three, four

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>guys that we want to talk about that we think

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<v Speaker 1>our fantasy notable. There are a bunch of teams that

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<v Speaker 1>have tight end need and money to spend. I think

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that looks like Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, l A Chargers,

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>New England, the Jets, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tennessee. All teams

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that have tight ended need and money to spend. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>begin with Hunter Henry. His recap last year was a

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<v Speaker 1>little more disappointing than I had remembered it being when

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and looked. He's been productive by tight

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<v Speaker 1>end standards, but just really, no season has he blown

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>people away like we thought he would based on draft position, pedigree, size,

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability. It feels like in no season has it

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>really all come together. If you want six hundred yards

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and four touchdowns from your tight end, he's your guy.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But six hundred and four is mundane, honestly, and you

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>can almost stream your way to six hundred yards and

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>four to four touchdowns in a season. So um, I

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think now, this is just who Hunter Henry is. And

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the that the Chargers didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>use their franchise tag on him tells you a little

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>bit about where they how they feel about him. He's gone,

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>He's gone from l A. I think so too. The

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>ideal landing spots to me are Arizona that needs a

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>tight end. We're gonna talk about another Arizona tight end

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Um, He'll be teamed there with Kyler Murray.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati to team up with Joe Burrow would be great.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo needs tight end help and Josh Allen is there,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 1>and then Seattle assuming Russell Wilson stays Seattle always managed

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to manages to put together solid, tight end numbers with

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the Ross Dwellies of the world. And you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of guys coming and going New England also needs

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>tight end And I remember, yeah the Chargers and yeah

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<v Speaker 1>last last year, and there was a almost an awkwardly

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>long embraced between Bill Belichick and Hunter Henry start there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I had to put money on it, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's going to the Patriots. Maybe they got money,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>they just don't have a quarterback, true, but yeah, us

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>they do have a lot of money, and I did.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually I listed the Patriots there. But let's and

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and so back to Hunter Henry just for a second year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the re draft value in him is pretty low.

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<v Speaker 1>Um does he get materially better in his next landing spot,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean maybe because he won't have

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen soaking up balls, but he also won't have

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback like Justin Herbert throwing either, probably where he goes,

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I think it's medium low. He's

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he's only twenty six years old, so he's got another

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<v Speaker 1>like four or five years of solid contributions left, but

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>it's that's just that's all you get is the solid

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>contribution and not outstanding play from Hunter Henry. No matter

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>where he ends up, I feel like he'll could be

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>overvalued on draft because he's just a name that sticks

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>in football players mind, feels comfortable and easy, and there

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>are always guys in your league who want that. All right,

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>let's go to speak of Patriots and tight ends. Let's

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>go to Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, Rob Gronkowski, former Patriot of

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>course current Buck, well not so current Buck. But you'd

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna go back to Tampa. But turns thirty

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>two in May might be the oldest thirty two, and

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it is a lot of miles. His liver is probably

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>about fifty years old. But Gronk played in all sixteen

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>games last year, finished tight end seven in total points,

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>but just eleventh in points per game. Um, he has

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<v Speaker 1>some major landmine weeks mixed into his a couple of

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 1>ditch catch games that's certainly have killed you in a

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>guillotine league. But uh, he has to be resigning with

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks. I don't see. I don't play anywhere else.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason he does, He's dead to me. But

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>even if he signs with Tampa Bay, which most people

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>are expecting, he's going off the board right around tight

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>end nineteen right now in redraft, and that he's a backup.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather Break or would you rather have Gronkowski

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>in a redraft best ball scenarios rather than redraft Gronk?

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>But in dynasty. If I'm doing a dynasty startup, I'd

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>probably take Break. I mean, has value in a dynasty league,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>but as a backup. But if you're doing a first

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>dear draft, just shoot for upside anywhere else outside of Gronk,

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>We've kind of seen the best at him, but again,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>he he kind of came on strong towards the end

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the year. He was more reliable than I expected

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>him to be. But the just pretty much avoid Gronk

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>on draft day though for the most part. All right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we turned our attention to two guys near and dear

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<v Speaker 1>to our hearts, John John, You and Dan Arnold. Who

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<v Speaker 1>loves who more? I would be like the ultimate cage

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>match of devotion. I got it. I think I love

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>John U John Wu more than you love Dan Arnold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go first. So last year you'll remember Johnny John

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>has started the season on fire. Through week five, he

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was second only to Travis Kelsey in fantasy points and

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I looked freaking brilliant for five weeks and then and

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he hit five touchdowns through week five

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and he was averaging seven targets and five catches per game.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Then he suffered an ankle injury in Week six, and

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>john U Johnu was never the same. Yeah, I think

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>very gallantly he played through the injury, but they used

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to mostly as a blocker because he's actually a very

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>good blocking tight end um and I think his mobility

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.479
<v Speaker 1>was very compromised, and that's such a big part of

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>his game is the fact that he can run like

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<v Speaker 1>a running back after the catch. So uh is after

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<v Speaker 1>after that Week six ankle injury, his usage dropped off dramatically,

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<v Speaker 1>basically in half three targets and two catches per game

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>half from week six forward down from against seven targets

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and five catches per game. He was tight end twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one after that ankle injury. Well, he ran like a

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>running back in the red zone where they utilized him.

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>He had like two or three rushing touchdowns too. Yeah,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he's the uh yeah, he's like essentially the full package

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>which comes to a football player at the fantasy football

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>players care about that. But yeah, let us say he

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is a top five percent athlete for his position. Incredibly fast.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Linebackers have a nightmare matchup because of his speed and size.

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I just I want to see John

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and John who go to a team that will utilize

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>him and utilize the things that make him special, the athleticism.

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, Seattle's got a history of getting great production

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>out of nobody's at tight end. I'd like to see

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>him teamed up with Josh Allen's big arm. That could

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>because I think he can be a downfield receiver. Justin

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Herbert would be a great fit for downfield passing if

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>he wants to replace Hunter Henry. Way more dynamic than

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Henry. So those are all some places I like.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I think John U John is redraft value is middle

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of the pack for tight ends. With the right team,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll slot in around tight end ten in

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>redraft leagues. You know, with the wrong team, I think

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he slides like tight end fifteen or twenty dynasty value.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>He's still young. He's only twenty five years old, and

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got a ton of tread on the tire after

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>being lightly used in Tennessee. So I think his dynasty

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 1>value is a little higher than that. Now, when you

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>said top five in terms of athleticism when it comes

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to tight ends, what a segue for Dan Arnold oh

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<v Speaker 1>perfect who turns twenty six on Monday March period starts

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna be a birthday and my guy deserves

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to get paid. Yes, he only finished his tight end

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty one on a total points basis last year, but

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>missed a couple of games, only saw forty five targets. Now,

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>for reference, guys like Hunter, Henry, Noah Fant, Dalton Schultz,

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the full time Cowboys tight in last year, Mike Kasicki,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Eric Ebron all saw roughly ninety targets from like eighty

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>five to nine. All these guys in that range. So

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>if you double Dan's uh forty five targets into that

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>ninety range, he would have finished with sixty one catches,

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and eighty yards and eight touchdowns. That will

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>put him in the top five or some five comfortably

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>among tight ends. But you have to but you're doubling

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>his output not a safe assumption, but on a per

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>target basis. He was money and there is lots of

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>love in the underlying metric. First among tight ends, an

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>average depth of target last year twelve point six yards.

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>That's like wide receiver caliber dot ninth in yards after

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the catch per reception, a total force in the red

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>zone and the end zone more specifically. And he he's

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>still somewhat raw. He had some pretty crucial drops towards

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the ends of the end of last year. But I

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>still think he can put it all together. And uh,

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>if he's given the target, you know, workload, he can

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>be a top eight, top ten tight end quite easily

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>in the right spot. And Arizona might not be the

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>right spot. They don't utilize their tight end, never had,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and they still gave Max Williams adequate targets and even

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>some other guy I can't remember his name caught a

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of touchdowns for the Cardinals or third string tight end.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So tight end thirty six right now for Dan Arnold

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in in redraft, A lot of appeal for me at

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that price, especially in dynasty leagues, if you went like

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the one team we didn't mention that has a gaping

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hole at tight end, the Carolina Panthers yeah, yeah, I

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>don't even know their quarterback is gonna be. But the

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Carolina may they may end up with a really good quarterback,

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>either through the draft because they're drafting, you know, they're

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>moving their draft position would make that possible. Or maybe

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they there's a lot of rumors are gonna do something

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>splashy at that position. Maybe they make they may they

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>pull off a trade, maybe they get to Shaun Watson.

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Who knows. And we should say that this might be

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the deeper tight end classes when it comes

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to the NFL draft to We'll talk about that in

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>future weeks. Kyle, if you had, if you said charts

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>right now, you have to name one player out of

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this year's draft to go to the Hall of Fame.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>kW pits, I hope you're right. I got I got

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>him as a debbie player last year and one of

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>my they made up for, you know, Benjamin being my

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>debbie player year before. But yeah, Kyle Pitts, I got

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>this going into this year, so I'm feeling good. But

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Dan Arnold, no shocker coming from me, and keep him

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>on your radar. So back, okay, uh eno, Benjamin. I

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know that we dropped him quite yet no ill

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in these long in these in these you know, big

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>big roster debby leagues and dynasty, you know, because Kenyan

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Drake's gone, right, you know, Benjamin and a lot of

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>running backs. It takes two years, two year window on

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>running backs. I don't mind that he got basically don't

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>work in year one. I wonder if he is not

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a regular change of pace player this year, if he

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>hasn't basically this year's Chase Edmonds, and Chase Edmonds is

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the is now the lead back? Yeah, I mean, like

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you said, Drake likely gone. And if they don't draft

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>another running back unless it's like way late in the

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>draft or sign Uh, they're not gonna sign mark Ingram.

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>We know that. But yeah, you know Benjamin that there's

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.479
<v Speaker 1>still a pulse there for sure. Even though I wish

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't drop Lynn Bowden in favor of you know, Benjamin,

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the tiebreaker Wash you know, was my debbut player. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is before the Dolphins released. This is like week four,

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<v Speaker 1>week five. But I'm regretting holding out the eno over

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<v Speaker 1>Linn Bowden right about it? Doesn't I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>looks Is there anything about Lynn Odin that makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you really missed the boat on him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was playing football last year though, But

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I like the I like the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin close, that's uh, it's about his head ease. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets for a tight end wide receiver. Podcast for talking

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<v Speaker 1>you know Benjamin, don't you know it's the off season.

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