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Speaker 1: here's your host, Paul. Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm
Speaker 1: Paul Scharchi, and my co host, as he frequently is
Speaker 1: almost every week, Brian Johnson. Hi, Brian, what's up charge,
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again. Last week we dove
Speaker 1: into free agency with quarterbacks and running backs. This week
Speaker 1: we're focusing on wide receivers and tight ends. The tampering
Speaker 1: period starts Monday, so it'll be fascinating to see where
Speaker 1: these guys go. Who goes early, who goes late, has
Speaker 1: a lot of wide lot of wide receiver talent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hitting the hitting the market and it's it's fascinating. And
Speaker 1: before we get to the wide receivers and the tight
Speaker 1: free agents, let's let's mention this. This Cam Newton decision
Speaker 1: by the Patriots and Bill Belichick baffling. Not a I'm
Speaker 1: shocked they brought him back at any price, b at
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. I mean, that's starter quarterback money for
Speaker 1: a guy Bill Belichick benched three? Is it four times
Speaker 1: during the season, Brian, I'm I just I'm stunned by this.
Speaker 1: I've said it so many times. Bill Belichick GM undermines
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick head coach all the time. I have no words,
Speaker 1: really my only this could just be the most Belichick
Speaker 1: thing ever where he has lulled the rest of the
Speaker 1: a f C East into think he may have a chance.
Speaker 1: And of course the Bills were the a f C championship.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, is this like this like the
Speaker 1: ultimate Kaiser? So's a play by Bill Belichick bringing back
Speaker 1: Cam Newton who he benched. There's three that I can
Speaker 1: think of off the top of my head, and they
Speaker 1: can not finished last year through so five touchdown passes
Speaker 1: or something like that. I think it was a nine
Speaker 1: touchdown past season, which is unfathomable. Now here's what this.
Speaker 1: Apologists are saying, he had COVID. He was better before COVID,
Speaker 1: that after COVID he was never the same guy. So
Speaker 1: then it'll be further removed from COVID. Maybe bad receivers
Speaker 1: and his his receivers were bad. The fair points, you know,
Speaker 1: the team had ten players on their COVID opt out
Speaker 1: list was the most in the NFL. I think the
Speaker 1: majority run defense. I think they had one offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Um most of the you know, most of that was
Speaker 1: was defense. Still, it's just you know, the eye test.
Speaker 1: Look at Cam Newton and maybe the worst part of this,
Speaker 1: and there's no guarantee Cam Newtons the starting quarterback Week one,
Speaker 1: but at fourteen million dollars, he's in play for it.
Speaker 1: Poor Damien Harris. Ye, that's torpedoes his fantasy value. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's the worst part of this. This is right up
Speaker 1: your alley. Signs st Beard right transition you need, and
Speaker 1: he would. I Belichick could go better than anybody he's faced.
Speaker 1: He's faced Stu Beard so many times. You know, if
Speaker 1: you need a transition quarterback to get you the Patriots,
Speaker 1: to get you to whoever's next, whatever young kid you've
Speaker 1: decided is your next up and coming quarterback, Ryan fit Patrick,
Speaker 1: that's your guy. They don't have a they don't have
Speaker 1: an option outside of canis As. It seems like they're
Speaker 1: they're out on DeShawn Watson. I guess if someone's gonna
Speaker 1: trade for them, they're not gonna draft one of these
Speaker 1: maybe they're higher in the draft, and we ever see
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think they're picking nine. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's they It wouldn't take a lot from them to
Speaker 1: get from like nine and nine might get them one
Speaker 1: of the big four quarterbacks. It might. It probably won't,
Speaker 1: but from them to get to nine to like six
Speaker 1: to go get one, you know, is possible. Do you
Speaker 1: think cam Newton was the one who was most surprised
Speaker 1: by this signing. It's got be like, oh my God,
Speaker 1: found money. I mean, just I gotta believe in. I
Speaker 1: gotta believe he was prepping himself to be a backup
Speaker 1: for two million dollars. Yeah, it's bizarre, unbelievable. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to the free agent wide receivers. There are
Speaker 1: a bunch of teams that have have wide receiver need.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna list them off briefly. I see it Detroit,
Speaker 1: which has we're gonna talk about older receivers are going
Speaker 1: to free agents Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Houston, in the Vegas, Miami,
Speaker 1: New England, the Giants, Jets, Philadelphia, Tennessee, in Washington. Alphabetically,
Speaker 1: there's a there's your laundry list of teams that have
Speaker 1: real need at wide receiver. These are all teams that
Speaker 1: basically have got one receiver or less that they can
Speaker 1: really count on. So given that as a backdrop, let's
Speaker 1: let's look at some of the available free agent wide
Speaker 1: receivers a little background and where what got them to
Speaker 1: where they are today and ideal landing spots for each
Speaker 1: of these guys. I've done all the talking so far, Brian,
Speaker 1: but I'll go first, Ken eat Holiday. It's got to
Speaker 1: be the best name out of this crop, right, elite
Speaker 1: level player, potentially on a Hall of Fame pace. The
Speaker 1: Lions decision not to franchise Glidy is a clear sign
Speaker 1: that they are in full blown rebuilding mode again, you know,
Speaker 1: perpetually rebuilding. And it is a team that's allowing its
Speaker 1: number one, number two, and number three wide receivers from
Speaker 1: this year all to walk in free agency. Unbelievable. They've
Speaker 1: also forced one of the greatest wide receivers of all
Speaker 1: time into early retirement and Calvin Johnson. And they also
Speaker 1: drafted like five wide receivers in the first round in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, like multiple years. That was Matt
Speaker 1: Millin's fault, of course, but yeah, curse that the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position essentially. Holiday played four full games last year
Speaker 1: was weeks three through six. He was a killer. He
Speaker 1: scored or topped one yards and all four of the
Speaker 1: games he might have been the highest scoring wide receiver
Speaker 1: in fantasy football on a per game basis. You know,
Speaker 1: first four games, um and and he really he wasn't
Speaker 1: really truly healthy for even any of those four games.
Speaker 1: He played those four games hurt. It was hamstring injury
Speaker 1: at the start of the year, and then the hip
Speaker 1: injury that knocked him out for the rest of the
Speaker 1: year after that. And it was an unfortunate season for
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay. But he's more than proven himself as an
Speaker 1: elite receiver. I think the ideal landing spot for him
Speaker 1: is just any place with solid quarterbacking. The problem here is, though, Brian,
Speaker 1: the intersection of wide receiver needy teams with good quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and who have requisite cat salary cap space is very small.
Speaker 1: So here's the only teams that I think are possible
Speaker 1: landing spots. Houston with the Shawn Watson for the moment,
Speaker 1: Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill, Baltimore with Lamar Jackson and as
Speaker 1: a sneaky one Las Vegas, because I think Derek car
Speaker 1: is sneaky competent, So that's it. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think there's only four really ideal landing spots for Kenny Golladay.
Speaker 1: The problem is Golladay he wants top tier wide receiver money,
Speaker 1: which he deserves. It's gonna to get it, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't proven to stay healthy, and that's where there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big disconnect. I feel like in the in
Speaker 1: the market for teams asking price and what he's going
Speaker 1: to be willing to sign for. But uh, yeah, if
Speaker 1: he plays sixteen full games, he's got wide receiver one,
Speaker 1: you know, top twelve wide receiver ability written all over him.
Speaker 1: In redraft leagues, I think Kenny Golladay's value here is
Speaker 1: medium high. His current ADP is only the fourth round
Speaker 1: in these in early drafting, but he's got room to
Speaker 1: go way up from there if he lands in the
Speaker 1: right spot. I mean, if he goes to any place
Speaker 1: with the competent quarterbacking, I think he goes, Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: could move as high as the second round. In dynasty.
Speaker 1: I think it's also medium high here. He's only twenty
Speaker 1: seven years old, so he's really entering the prime of
Speaker 1: his career, kind of in the prime and and and
Speaker 1: throughout this next contract that will probably like a four
Speaker 1: year contract, he'll be operating through the latter part of
Speaker 1: the prime of his career. So I think he's good
Speaker 1: for another three is years and I think Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: remains very valuable. Let's go to our our next free agent,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Will Fuller. Will Fuller till turns twenty seven
Speaker 1: in April, So, like Galladay, entering the prime of his career,
Speaker 1: and despite only playing eleven games in twenty finished as
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty four on a total points basis, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was tied for fifth in points per game because
Speaker 1: he was he was going off and that that included
Speaker 1: a Week two against Baltimore when he was literally blanked
Speaker 1: zero catches. I think he might have had a target,
Speaker 1: but uh was this on an incredible pace the points
Speaker 1: per game pace, he was tied with A. J. Brown
Speaker 1: for fifth, only trailed Stefon Diggs, Calvin Ridley, Tyree Kill
Speaker 1: and Davante Adams and good company right there, very good company. Um.
Speaker 1: But as we all know, his season was cut short
Speaker 1: because of the pe D suspension and before this year,
Speaker 1: Galada had some trouble staying on the field. Fuller, but yes, Fuller, yeah,
Speaker 1: my bead uh played eleven games in seven and ten seventeen.
Speaker 1: All it was always a hammy, I'm pretty sure for
Speaker 1: the most part. So did the p e D s
Speaker 1: keep him healthy make him a better player? There's some
Speaker 1: red flags there, but again he was going off last year.
Speaker 1: He was arguably the most reliable wide receiver in fantasy football,
Speaker 1: and right now he's going off. The board is wide
Speaker 1: receiver twenty seven in Best Ball, So that caution is
Speaker 1: it's out there, for sure, it is. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: all the wide receiver needy teams, but ones ones that
Speaker 1: you didn't mention. I think the Packers and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: are are else also in the monent for a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Packers for sure, about the Cardinals, but you're absolute right
Speaker 1: Green Bay should have been in that list. But if
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk leaves, you know, the Texans love shipping, uh.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals love receiving Texans over from Houston J J.
Speaker 1: Wat DeAndre Hopkins in the like. But man Golladay m
Speaker 1: keep saying Gollady Fuller, Uh, he seems about right where
Speaker 1: he's at. I'm not I'm not fully on board with
Speaker 1: him staying healthy for a full sixteen game season without
Speaker 1: the help of p DS. I know it was an
Speaker 1: honest mistake. I'm not gonna throw him under the bus
Speaker 1: too much, but I think his value is right about
Speaker 1: right and uh in redraft and you gotta bump it
Speaker 1: up a little bit, a little bit in UH Dynasty,
Speaker 1: But I'm just not sold. He's a every week player
Speaker 1: that you can rely on. You know, where I'd like
Speaker 1: him to go. I want his landing spot to be
Speaker 1: wherever Deshaun Watson is. How about that? You know, if
Speaker 1: Watson stays in Houston, I'd like will Fuller if to
Speaker 1: sign with his original team. Actually, we don't want him
Speaker 1: to go to Arizona because Hopkins is there and Hopkins
Speaker 1: always stabbed his talent outside his hands on hamstrings. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let's keep him and Hopkins away from each other. They're
Speaker 1: probably buddies, but they don't need to play together anymore.
Speaker 1: Ex Up Marvin Jones. Uh. He got a lot of
Speaker 1: extra volume due to Kenny Golladay's mostly missed season last year,
Speaker 1: and he saw career highs and targets and receptions last season.
Speaker 1: But even with all that, Brian Marvin Jones didn't crack
Speaker 1: a thousand yards despite being the go to receiver and
Speaker 1: you know for at least twelve games. And here's an
Speaker 1: interesting staff that I came across. I believe he's the
Speaker 1: only wide receiver with nine or more touchdowns in three
Speaker 1: of the past four seasons, which is pretty shocking. He
Speaker 1: finished last year's wide receiver fifteen. Not bad for Marvin Jones.
Speaker 1: Ideal ending spout from Rvin Jones any team where he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the top receiver. Unlike Fuller and
Speaker 1: Golliday that have proven they can be a top receiver,
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones can't. It's just you know, he had he
Speaker 1: had good quarterback in for Matthew Stafford and wasn't able
Speaker 1: to get to a thousand yards last season. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a number one. He feels like a number two.
Speaker 1: So then he could go to Baltimore behind Holliday, behind
Speaker 1: uh Hollywood Brown. He could go to Chicago behind Allen Robinson,
Speaker 1: Miami behind Parker, the Giants behind Sterling Shepherd and Darius Slayton,
Speaker 1: Tennessee behind A. J. Brown, Washington behind McLarin. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see him be a regular number two like he
Speaker 1: was for Kenny Golladay. What about Green Bay alongside Green Bay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: green Bay. Davante Adams perfect, I love. I love the
Speaker 1: double revenge game angle for any player. Marvin Jones readraft
Speaker 1: value is medium low. I think unless he falls into
Speaker 1: a perfect spot in his dynasty, value is low. He's
Speaker 1: a thirty one year old and he's entering his tenth season,
Speaker 1: and you know, you forget he played four years for
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that we don't even remember anymore. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was John Kittener throwing him the ball or something
Speaker 1: at this point. But Scott Mitchell maybe even knowing not
Speaker 1: that old, not that old, but Scott Mitchell was Detroit.
Speaker 1: Did he finish his career in Cincinnati? And I forgot?
Speaker 1: I thought we were talking about Detroit quarterbacks still there now,
Speaker 1: since that's how he got got crossed right there? All right?
Speaker 1: Talk to us about Antonio Brown. It sounds like he'd
Speaker 1: like to stay in Tampa. You would think he would
Speaker 1: want to stay in Tampa because I'm not convinced he
Speaker 1: can keep his head on straight without sharing bunk beds
Speaker 1: with tom Brady. Tom Brady keep him in line, even
Speaker 1: though Tom Brady is kind of like a drunk uncle
Speaker 1: right about now. But yeah, Antonio Brown turns thirty three
Speaker 1: in July, so he's more than based in the twilight
Speaker 1: of his career for lack of better turn you see
Speaker 1: a single play last year that you would describe as like,
Speaker 1: you know, game breaking, like Antonio Brown used to be
Speaker 1: in his prime, not necessarily, but he did turn it
Speaker 1: on towards the end of the year. Though. Here here's
Speaker 1: a random stat though most games with ten plus catches
Speaker 1: in NFL history, Antonio Brown with the most, twenty two
Speaker 1: with Andre Johnson, who never had a competent quarterbacks career
Speaker 1: but but more pertinent to fantasy football last year in
Speaker 1: in PPR points per snap, So this is essentially based
Speaker 1: on how much you play, right, how many points you
Speaker 1: produced per snap. Davante Adams was first at point for
Speaker 1: eight PPR points per snap. God, that's a lot on
Speaker 1: a per snap basis cheats, and then number two Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown really point three nine, right ahead of Tyreek Hill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean Brown didn't come into you know, come
Speaker 1: into play into a week seven Week eight when Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay signed him, took some some time to get ramped up,
Speaker 1: but again as a season war on, he he looked great.
Speaker 1: That that helped with Mike Evans being hurt a little
Speaker 1: bit late in the season. But uh, Brown looked good.
Speaker 1: But I'm not interested in him unless he stays in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I think he's got to stay there too. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore and Miami or just my gut, like
Speaker 1: those are places he could end up. I could see
Speaker 1: them taking up a flyer on Antonio Brown with him,
Speaker 1: probably not yet. The Dolphins maybe keep him in Florida.
Speaker 1: But right now, I Antonio Brown in on South Beach
Speaker 1: sounds like a bad comb. It does, especially with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: But right now, Brown his redraft value. He's going around
Speaker 1: wide receiver forty five. You're drafting him as a wide
Speaker 1: receiver three with upside. He's kind of more of a
Speaker 1: best ball play. And when it comes to dynasty, he
Speaker 1: has value, but not in a startup If I'm doing
Speaker 1: a start up draft, I'm not. I'm not drafting Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown anywhere. He's He's a wide receiver three reserve player
Speaker 1: for a contend in dynasty. In an existing league, of course,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break when we come back. Some
Speaker 1: of the other wide receivers and tight ends available in
Speaker 1: free agency. As I mentioned deep deep pool. We still
Speaker 1: got guys like Juju Smith, Schuster, and Curtis Samuel to
Speaker 1: talk about. And that's just at the wide receiver position.
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Speaker 1: t x J. Continuing with the wide receiver free agents,
Speaker 1: Brian Corey Davis finished his wide receiver twenty nine. He
Speaker 1: was an all or nothing fantasy producer who generally fared
Speaker 1: well against bad defenses, struggled against most of the rest
Speaker 1: of the league. He crushed to Jacksonville, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland.
Speaker 1: His big games were not connected to A. J. Brown's health,
Speaker 1: which was interesting. You know, you might have thought, you know,
Speaker 1: when AJA Brown was there, either did really well with
Speaker 1: A J. Brown because Brown was sucking up all the
Speaker 1: big you know, all the best UH coverage, or maybe
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do you would do better with A D. Brown.
Speaker 1: Ow it didn't. It turns out it didn't really matter.
Speaker 1: H Pro Football Focus loved Corey Davis. They ranked him
Speaker 1: as the eighth highest. They graded him eighth highest wide
Speaker 1: receiver eight by Pro Football Focus, immediately behind DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, and Adam Feeland. Wow, that's some good company
Speaker 1: right there. And the guy who was essentially left for
Speaker 1: dead in draft season last year. He was like a
Speaker 1: late round flyer for in most leagues, undrafted, undrafted in
Speaker 1: most leagues. Yes, the ideal landing spot for him. I
Speaker 1: don't think Corey Davis feels like a wide receiver one
Speaker 1: on any team. I think he's a wide receiver to
Speaker 1: He did very little for three seasons before last year,
Speaker 1: and that's going to give people a pause. And so,
Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones, I think he's best suited when there's
Speaker 1: another talent on the field, so he didn't have to
Speaker 1: try to be a number one, which he isn't. Baltimore, Chicago,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Miami, the Giants, Tennessee, Washington all makes sense.
Speaker 1: The redraft value for Corey Davis here, I think it's
Speaker 1: a medium low um. But he's still only twenty six
Speaker 1: years old, so in dynasty and Empire leagues, Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: that makes a little more sense to roll the dice
Speaker 1: on him, and I could see him going a couple
Speaker 1: of rounds higher in the Dynasty League because he is
Speaker 1: still so young. Yeah, he probably will still remain undervalued
Speaker 1: wherever he ends up. He could blow up in your face,
Speaker 1: but he still has very high stealing It was not
Speaker 1: long ago he was the top wide receiver. You know,
Speaker 1: he went to Central Michigan, a smaller school and all that,
Speaker 1: but he was a blue chip prospect not long ago.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Juju Smith Schuster. This very podcast absolutely
Speaker 1: nailed that Juju Smith Schuster would be heading to free
Speaker 1: agency last summer. We talked about it many times that
Speaker 1: we thought that odd man out of that crowded wide
Speaker 1: receiver room was gonna be Juju Smith Schuster. And here
Speaker 1: we are. He said it for a free agency Yeah, Juju.
Speaker 1: Four seasons now he has played, and he just turned
Speaker 1: twenty four November. Got incredibly young a season to vet
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old and newly minted twenty four
Speaker 1: year old. And last season it wasn't as bad as
Speaker 1: I remembered, like off the top of my head, like
Speaker 1: he was a huge bust. He did have some landmine games,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't as bad as I remembered, especially starting
Speaker 1: from Week nine through the wild Card game, which was
Speaker 1: ten games. He scored in seven of those ten games
Speaker 1: and four of his last five. He became incredibly reliable.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, Pittsburgh letting him walk, and the Jets
Speaker 1: feels like the team for Juju because I believe Jameson
Speaker 1: Crowder might be leaving. I don't worry. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't remember that. We don't have talk Crowder, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. All the wide receiver needy teams should be
Speaker 1: enticed by Juju because last year Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: is in the twilight of his career too. Juju is
Speaker 1: very intriguing for any wide receiver needy team. He's gonna
Speaker 1: command twelve to fifteen million year as see him something like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need cap space too. I would not pay
Speaker 1: him that much, but I wouldn't, but maybe some team will,
Speaker 1: um I it'll be fascinating to see where he goes.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a pure slot receiver, so that you
Speaker 1: know that that that really changes the window of the
Speaker 1: teams that could end up going after Juju. Smith Schuster
Speaker 1: and right now, right now, and redraft, he's like wide
Speaker 1: receiver thirty. He's going after guys like Tyler Boyd, will Fuller,
Speaker 1: who he talked about earlier, Cooper Cup, Brandon Aiyuk And
Speaker 1: granted those guys might deserve to go ahead of Juju,
Speaker 1: but he's still met that range where he can outlive
Speaker 1: that a DP And I don't think he's gonna blow
Speaker 1: up in your face too much. He's not gonna bought
Speaker 1: them ount entirely. So I like his value and redraft
Speaker 1: and in Dynasty Tennessee, to me, would be the perfect
Speaker 1: landing spot. So he gets Ryan Tannehill, highly competent quarterback,
Speaker 1: and they need a slot receiver. They let Adam Humphreys go.
Speaker 1: That would end up being a bad free agent contract
Speaker 1: that they gave him, and you know, maybe they give up.
Speaker 1: Maybe they tried Juju Smith Schuster. Curtis Samuel finished last
Speaker 1: year's wide receiver twenty five, and he's actually been sneaky
Speaker 1: productive for three seasons with seven seven and five touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Last year. He said career highs in receptions, yards, rushes,
Speaker 1: and rushing yards for Curtis Samuel, and they use him
Speaker 1: more in that jackknife role where they asked Samuel will
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things, which I love. He
Speaker 1: is a true gadget player who can be used in
Speaker 1: a wide variety of ways. Generally runs his routes from
Speaker 1: the slot, but he's always been a hit or miss
Speaker 1: fantasy producer and actually, last year, looking through his his
Speaker 1: his game logs, his rushing production actually bailed him out
Speaker 1: of some otherwise really bad games. And so if he
Speaker 1: continues to run the ball wherever he goes, it would
Speaker 1: be it would be fascinating to see what he could
Speaker 1: end up doing, and that does end up saving you
Speaker 1: a little bit. From a fantasy standpoint. The ideal landing
Speaker 1: spot here is I think pretty broad. You know, Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel has proven he doesn't have to have a lead
Speaker 1: quarterbacking to be good because he has never He's never
Speaker 1: had a lead quarterbacking And so all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is find a spot with an open slot receiver role
Speaker 1: like Green Bay, New England, Washington, Miami, Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. All of them have got open slot receiver spots.
Speaker 1: You know, anybody any of those could work. I think
Speaker 1: it really just depends on the team's willing. His fantasy
Speaker 1: value depends on the team's willingness to use him in
Speaker 1: the wide variety of ways that his skill set merits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wide receiver twenty five finishes impressive considering uh D J.
Speaker 1: Moore and Robby Anderson who are playing over him. Essentially,
Speaker 1: we're top twenty four wide receivers on a total points
Speaker 1: breaking basis. So yeah, read draft value for Curtis Samuel's
Speaker 1: medium low. He's unlikely to emerge as a focal point
Speaker 1: of any passing attack. Uh in my mind, And you know,
Speaker 1: the dynasty value is probably medium. He's still really young.
Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old, and he's I just see,
Speaker 1: I kind of see. Curtis Samuel is a back off
Speaker 1: your roster, bye week filling guy for a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever team he goes to next, you periodically
Speaker 1: start him and feel okay about it, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's got a good matchups here and there and
Speaker 1: you start him. But I don't know that i'd want
Speaker 1: to have Curtis Samuel a is a every week starter.
Speaker 1: He seems like a guy a team is gonna overpay
Speaker 1: for in the real world perspective. Sounds right, Um, final,
Speaker 1: why did you see we're gonna talk about Nelson Aglare,
Speaker 1: can you believe it? I didn't think we know. I
Speaker 1: thought it was done all last year, especially with you know,
Speaker 1: Tyrrell Williams. Uh, the Raiders have like seven wide receivers
Speaker 1: ahead of Nelson Agiler that you would consider more relevant
Speaker 1: drafted one, Brian Edwards, Yeah, Brian Edwards, and Henry Ruggs
Speaker 1: is the guy who was gonna mention the first wide
Speaker 1: receiver taken in the in the draft last year. But uh,
Speaker 1: you had big time whoopsie there. Uh, which we've pointed
Speaker 1: out many many times over the course of this show
Speaker 1: or since his tenure in the NFL. But Nelson Agilar
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns last year, the eighth most among wide receivers,
Speaker 1: same amounts guys like Stefan Diggs, Keenan Allen more touchdowns
Speaker 1: than guys like Justin Jefferson, DeAndre Hopkins, Allen Robinson, Wow,
Speaker 1: Nelson Aglar and only on eighty two targets. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs had like so it's to he he only
Speaker 1: had about fifty catches nine hundred yards, but it's under
Speaker 1: understandable that he only total those numbers on eighty two targets.
Speaker 1: He was top eight in average depth of targets. He
Speaker 1: just at fifteen plus yards. He just wasn't utilized a
Speaker 1: lot and with the Raiders. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna go back to the Raiders because he essentially
Speaker 1: called them out for their the whole team, for their
Speaker 1: their their lack of effort towards the end of the ear.
Speaker 1: That's the thing he was right, most likely. But wherever
Speaker 1: he ends up, he's probably only going to see that
Speaker 1: same eighty to ninety target share. He's not the guy,
Speaker 1: but he moved out of the slot role where he
Speaker 1: was rotting away in Philly. We used them more on
Speaker 1: the boundaries with Vegas, but this is really where he
Speaker 1: ends up. If he's the content, complimentary outside piece to
Speaker 1: say Davante Adams in Green Bay, I'm more intrigued than
Speaker 1: if he lands with the Giants and some you know,
Speaker 1: muddled roll or something like that. But uh, he's definitely
Speaker 1: way more of a best ball play for me. I'm
Speaker 1: not a guy to be targeting in redraft or Dynasty,
Speaker 1: but in best ball he's womped in the mid sixties,
Speaker 1: which makes him a wide receiver four ish type guy.
Speaker 1: But uh dynasty. I think he's peaked essentially, but late
Speaker 1: round flyer more so. In Bestall Nelson. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break when we come back the free agent
Speaker 1: tight ends, and there's a bunch of good ones here too.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a crazy year. We'll talk about the
Speaker 1: free agent tight ends, who matter and where we like
Speaker 1: them to go, possible uh dynasty and redraft value for
Speaker 1: the free agent tight ends coming up next. Welcome back
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly. Third segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. This
Speaker 1: is a free agent related show. We've already broken down
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and running backs last week, Wide receivers last two segments.
Speaker 1: Now the tight ends. We've got one, two, three, four
Speaker 1: guys that we want to talk about that we think
Speaker 1: our fantasy notable. There are a bunch of teams that
Speaker 1: have tight end need and money to spend. I think
Speaker 1: that looks like Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, l A Chargers,
Speaker 1: New England, the Jets, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tennessee. All teams
Speaker 1: that have tight ended need and money to spend. Let's
Speaker 1: begin with Hunter Henry. His recap last year was a
Speaker 1: little more disappointing than I had remembered it being when
Speaker 1: I went back and looked. He's been productive by tight
Speaker 1: end standards, but just really, no season has he blown
Speaker 1: people away like we thought he would based on draft position, pedigree, size,
Speaker 1: athletic ability. It feels like in no season has it
Speaker 1: really all come together. If you want six hundred yards
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns from your tight end, he's your guy.
Speaker 1: But six hundred and four is mundane, honestly, and you
Speaker 1: can almost stream your way to six hundred yards and
Speaker 1: four to four touchdowns in a season. So um, I
Speaker 1: think now, this is just who Hunter Henry is. And
Speaker 1: the fact that the that the Chargers didn't want to
Speaker 1: use their franchise tag on him tells you a little
Speaker 1: bit about where they how they feel about him. He's gone,
Speaker 1: He's gone from l A. I think so too. The
Speaker 1: ideal landing spots to me are Arizona that needs a
Speaker 1: tight end. We're gonna talk about another Arizona tight end
Speaker 1: in a minute. Um, He'll be teamed there with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to team up with Joe Burrow would be great.
Speaker 1: Buffalo needs tight end help and Josh Allen is there,
Speaker 1: and then Seattle assuming Russell Wilson stays Seattle always managed
Speaker 1: to manages to put together solid, tight end numbers with
Speaker 1: the Ross Dwellies of the world. And you know, a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys coming and going New England also needs
Speaker 1: tight end And I remember, yeah the Chargers and yeah
Speaker 1: last last year, and there was a almost an awkwardly
Speaker 1: long embraced between Bill Belichick and Hunter Henry start there.
Speaker 1: So if I had to put money on it, I
Speaker 1: feel like he's going to the Patriots. Maybe they got money,
Speaker 1: they just don't have a quarterback, true, but yeah, us
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of money, and I did.
Speaker 1: I actually I listed the Patriots there. But let's and
Speaker 1: and so back to Hunter Henry just for a second year.
Speaker 1: I think the re draft value in him is pretty low.
Speaker 1: Um does he get materially better in his next landing spot,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe because he won't have
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen soaking up balls, but he also won't have
Speaker 1: a quarterback like Justin Herbert throwing either, probably where he goes,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's medium low. He's
Speaker 1: he's only twenty six years old, so he's got another
Speaker 1: like four or five years of solid contributions left, but
Speaker 1: it's that's just that's all you get is the solid
Speaker 1: contribution and not outstanding play from Hunter Henry. No matter
Speaker 1: where he ends up, I feel like he'll could be
Speaker 1: overvalued on draft because he's just a name that sticks
Speaker 1: in football players mind, feels comfortable and easy, and there
Speaker 1: are always guys in your league who want that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to speak of Patriots and tight ends. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, Rob Gronkowski, former Patriot of
Speaker 1: course current Buck, well not so current Buck. But you'd
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go back to Tampa. But turns thirty
Speaker 1: two in May might be the oldest thirty two, and
Speaker 1: it is a lot of miles. His liver is probably
Speaker 1: about fifty years old. But Gronk played in all sixteen
Speaker 1: games last year, finished tight end seven in total points,
Speaker 1: but just eleventh in points per game. Um, he has
Speaker 1: some major landmine weeks mixed into his a couple of
Speaker 1: ditch catch games that's certainly have killed you in a
Speaker 1: guillotine league. But uh, he has to be resigning with
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I don't see. I don't play anywhere else.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason he does, He's dead to me. But
Speaker 1: even if he signs with Tampa Bay, which most people
Speaker 1: are expecting, he's going off the board right around tight
Speaker 1: end nineteen right now in redraft, and that he's a backup.
Speaker 1: Would you rather Break or would you rather have Gronkowski
Speaker 1: in a redraft best ball scenarios rather than redraft Gronk?
Speaker 1: But in dynasty. If I'm doing a dynasty startup, I'd
Speaker 1: probably take Break. I mean, has value in a dynasty league,
Speaker 1: but as a backup. But if you're doing a first
Speaker 1: dear draft, just shoot for upside anywhere else outside of Gronk,
Speaker 1: We've kind of seen the best at him, but again,
Speaker 1: he he kind of came on strong towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year. He was more reliable than I expected
Speaker 1: him to be. But the just pretty much avoid Gronk
Speaker 1: on draft day though for the most part. All right now,
Speaker 1: we turned our attention to two guys near and dear
Speaker 1: to our hearts, John John, You and Dan Arnold. Who
Speaker 1: loves who more? I would be like the ultimate cage
Speaker 1: match of devotion. I got it. I think I love
Speaker 1: John U John Wu more than you love Dan Arnold.
Speaker 1: I'll go first. So last year you'll remember Johnny John
Speaker 1: has started the season on fire. Through week five, he
Speaker 1: was second only to Travis Kelsey in fantasy points and
Speaker 1: I looked freaking brilliant for five weeks and then and
Speaker 1: by the way, he hit five touchdowns through week five
Speaker 1: and he was averaging seven targets and five catches per game.
Speaker 1: Then he suffered an ankle injury in Week six, and
Speaker 1: john U Johnu was never the same. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: very gallantly he played through the injury, but they used
Speaker 1: to mostly as a blocker because he's actually a very
Speaker 1: good blocking tight end um and I think his mobility
Speaker 1: was very compromised, and that's such a big part of
Speaker 1: his game is the fact that he can run like
Speaker 1: a running back after the catch. So uh is after
Speaker 1: after that Week six ankle injury, his usage dropped off dramatically,
Speaker 1: basically in half three targets and two catches per game
Speaker 1: half from week six forward down from against seven targets
Speaker 1: and five catches per game. He was tight end twenty
Speaker 1: one after that ankle injury. Well, he ran like a
Speaker 1: running back in the red zone where they utilized him.
Speaker 1: He had like two or three rushing touchdowns too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the uh yeah, he's like essentially the full package
Speaker 1: which comes to a football player at the fantasy football
Speaker 1: players care about that. But yeah, let us say he
Speaker 1: is a top five percent athlete for his position. Incredibly fast.
Speaker 1: Linebackers have a nightmare matchup because of his speed and size.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just I want to see John
Speaker 1: and John who go to a team that will utilize
Speaker 1: him and utilize the things that make him special, the athleticism.
Speaker 1: You know, Seattle's got a history of getting great production
Speaker 1: out of nobody's at tight end. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: him teamed up with Josh Allen's big arm. That could
Speaker 1: because I think he can be a downfield receiver. Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert would be a great fit for downfield passing if
Speaker 1: he wants to replace Hunter Henry. Way more dynamic than
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. So those are all some places I like.
Speaker 1: I think John U John is redraft value is middle
Speaker 1: of the pack for tight ends. With the right team,
Speaker 1: I think he'll slot in around tight end ten in
Speaker 1: redraft leagues. You know, with the wrong team, I think
Speaker 1: he slides like tight end fifteen or twenty dynasty value.
Speaker 1: He's still young. He's only twenty five years old, and
Speaker 1: he's got a ton of tread on the tire after
Speaker 1: being lightly used in Tennessee. So I think his dynasty
Speaker 1: value is a little higher than that. Now, when you
Speaker 1: said top five in terms of athleticism when it comes
Speaker 1: to tight ends, what a segue for Dan Arnold oh
Speaker 1: perfect who turns twenty six on Monday March period starts
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a birthday and my guy deserves
Speaker 1: to get paid. Yes, he only finished his tight end
Speaker 1: twenty one on a total points basis last year, but
Speaker 1: missed a couple of games, only saw forty five targets. Now,
Speaker 1: for reference, guys like Hunter, Henry, Noah Fant, Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: the full time Cowboys tight in last year, Mike Kasicki,
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron all saw roughly ninety targets from like eighty
Speaker 1: five to nine. All these guys in that range. So
Speaker 1: if you double Dan's uh forty five targets into that
Speaker 1: ninety range, he would have finished with sixty one catches,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty yards and eight touchdowns. That will
Speaker 1: put him in the top five or some five comfortably
Speaker 1: among tight ends. But you have to but you're doubling
Speaker 1: his output not a safe assumption, but on a per
Speaker 1: target basis. He was money and there is lots of
Speaker 1: love in the underlying metric. First among tight ends, an
Speaker 1: average depth of target last year twelve point six yards.
Speaker 1: That's like wide receiver caliber dot ninth in yards after
Speaker 1: the catch per reception, a total force in the red
Speaker 1: zone and the end zone more specifically. And he he's
Speaker 1: still somewhat raw. He had some pretty crucial drops towards
Speaker 1: the ends of the end of last year. But I
Speaker 1: still think he can put it all together. And uh,
Speaker 1: if he's given the target, you know, workload, he can
Speaker 1: be a top eight, top ten tight end quite easily
Speaker 1: in the right spot. And Arizona might not be the
Speaker 1: right spot. They don't utilize their tight end, never had,
Speaker 1: and they still gave Max Williams adequate targets and even
Speaker 1: some other guy I can't remember his name caught a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns for the Cardinals or third string tight end.
Speaker 1: So tight end thirty six right now for Dan Arnold
Speaker 1: in in redraft, A lot of appeal for me at
Speaker 1: that price, especially in dynasty leagues, if you went like
Speaker 1: the one team we didn't mention that has a gaping
Speaker 1: hole at tight end, the Carolina Panthers yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even know their quarterback is gonna be. But the
Speaker 1: Carolina may they may end up with a really good quarterback,
Speaker 1: either through the draft because they're drafting, you know, they're
Speaker 1: moving their draft position would make that possible. Or maybe
Speaker 1: they there's a lot of rumors are gonna do something
Speaker 1: splashy at that position. Maybe they make they may they
Speaker 1: pull off a trade, maybe they get to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Who knows. And we should say that this might be
Speaker 1: one of the deeper tight end classes when it comes
Speaker 1: to the NFL draft to We'll talk about that in
Speaker 1: future weeks. Kyle, if you had, if you said charts
Speaker 1: right now, you have to name one player out of
Speaker 1: this year's draft to go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: kW pits, I hope you're right. I got I got
Speaker 1: him as a debbie player last year and one of
Speaker 1: my they made up for, you know, Benjamin being my
Speaker 1: debbie player year before. But yeah, Kyle Pitts, I got
Speaker 1: this going into this year, so I'm feeling good. But
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, no shocker coming from me, and keep him
Speaker 1: on your radar. So back, okay, uh eno, Benjamin. I
Speaker 1: don't know that we dropped him quite yet no ill
Speaker 1: in these long in these in these you know, big
Speaker 1: big roster debby leagues and dynasty, you know, because Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake's gone, right, you know, Benjamin and a lot of
Speaker 1: running backs. It takes two years, two year window on
Speaker 1: running backs. I don't mind that he got basically don't
Speaker 1: work in year one. I wonder if he is not
Speaker 1: a regular change of pace player this year, if he
Speaker 1: hasn't basically this year's Chase Edmonds, and Chase Edmonds is
Speaker 1: the is now the lead back? Yeah, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, Drake likely gone. And if they don't draft
Speaker 1: another running back unless it's like way late in the
Speaker 1: draft or sign Uh, they're not gonna sign mark Ingram.
Speaker 1: We know that. But yeah, you know Benjamin that there's
Speaker 1: still a pulse there for sure. Even though I wish
Speaker 1: I didn't drop Lynn Bowden in favor of you know, Benjamin,
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker Wash you know, was my debbut player. And
Speaker 1: this is before the Dolphins released. This is like week four,
Speaker 1: week five. But I'm regretting holding out the eno over
Speaker 1: Linn Bowden right about it? Doesn't I don't think he
Speaker 1: looks Is there anything about Lynn Odin that makes you
Speaker 1: feel like you really missed the boat on him. No,
Speaker 1: at least he was playing football last year though, But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I like the I like the you know,
Speaker 1: Benjamin close, that's uh, it's about his head ease. It
Speaker 1: gets for a tight end wide receiver. Podcast for talking
Speaker 1: you know Benjamin, don't you know it's the off season.
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