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Speaker 1: right off top. You know that here at Meat do

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Speaker 1: we take calendars, real serious print calendars. And our second

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Speaker 1: call your freshman effort? Is that what you call it?

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Speaker 1: And then so our debut calendar was funked up old

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Speaker 1: don't we have the ones that were it's a great

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Speaker 1: You're like, you can't crate up all that, you can't

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Speaker 1: a great calendar. Seth did the cover photo. What else

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Speaker 1: We put out all company, where's the fish? That's stupid.

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Speaker 1: I'm not on it, but slack I don't use it.

425
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: So put out of all companies. I offered twenty reward

426
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: another company. My wife's enough already with a stupid fish.

427
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: If it was missing electronics, right, if it was missing electronics.

428
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: We wouldn't just wouldn't just sweep it under the rug.

429
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: And it's like if someone took it by accident, someone

430
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: took it by accident accident, yeah, or like there's all

431
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: this free or if I like stuff around, wasn't thinking

432
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: and gave it to him, they'd be like, dude, you

433
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: gave me that fish. But it's not true. No one

434
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: will come forward. So Steve wants another part of the

435
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: story because then after you put out the all company emails,

436
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: didn't the cooler we found the cooler with the dang

437
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: talon in one of our one of our equipment guys

438
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: who manages equipment um and many other things, says, oh,

439
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: I found that cooler with a towel in it. Empty

440
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: cooler with a towel in it in like the cardboard

441
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: box area. No one will come forward. So what we're

442
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: trying to find is we're trying to find a polygraph

443
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: examiner who can come into the studio. But in Montana,

444
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: polygraphs are not admissible. We've done a little bit of

445
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: research actually, so it's not like we don't have a

446
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: shipload of polygraph examiners running around because polygraph evidence isn't

447
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: admissible in court in Montana, but they use it on

448
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: sex offenders. So we need someone that's got the damn

449
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: polygraph machine knows how to run it. They're gonna come

450
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: into the studio and we're gonna start with Chester and

451
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: work out from there and polygraph exam as part of

452
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: a podcast episode. I'll just say this as a disclaimer.

453
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: It probably is illegal to force our colleagues to take

454
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: a polygraph test. So we're gonna ask them to step

455
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: forward and if they won't do it, and I'd be like, also,

456
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: where's the fish. If someone's like, I'm not doing app

457
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: like they give me the fish bag, Because if you

458
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: won't do it, that's the best way. It's like coming

459
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: to do a polygraph. I'm not doing a polygraph. Then

460
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: you know they're guilty. It's like, what do they do

461
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: with the Baracuda plays? The other way I'm gonna catch them.

462
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: The other way i'm gonna catch him is I'm gonna

463
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: start talking about man, I've never tried barracuda, and someone's

464
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'm like, how would you go? And

465
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: then I'll know they stole the fish? Said guys, Stay tuned.

466
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Part two of the saga, Yeah, you and your machine

467
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: will just come to the office. CRD will fly you

468
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: out with your machine. I don't know, they look like

469
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: it really looks some people up. I'm looking set up.

470
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm hooking Chester up, and I'm just gonna start hooking

471
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: random people up from the office. Kylie sent out that

472
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: she's my lead suspect because because she's the one that's

473
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: so hot to find the person. It's like us, like

474
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: ston't smelled her first, you know what I mean, she

475
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: is truly the last person ever. So, oh, here's the

476
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: other big need. And this is more complicated than Spencer's

477
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: being a pain in my ass right now about it.

478
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: We bought that punt gun. We bought a punt gun

479
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: at auction for not a small amount of money. Uh,

480
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like a little bit controversial

481
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: in the office. Is the punt gun? Um, what we're

482
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: really having a hard time finding is we're having a

483
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: hard time finding shells for it. Someone that can make

484
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: the shells for it. So I think when we estimated

485
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: it out, it's a it's a Holland and Holland. It's

486
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: an H and H punt gun from the late eighteen hundreds,

487
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: I think we estimated it. They don't go by gauges,

488
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: but it's like a two gauge huge chee. We have

489
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: like one or two casings. We have one or two

490
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: casings for it. There's all this stuff too, like you

491
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: can't use, so we need someone that can load the

492
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: shells for us. We've been checking around with some shell makers,

493
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: but people it seems that people don't really want to

494
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: go near it. The guy we bought it from said quote,

495
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm a little hesitant to just forward the info because

496
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: it basically amounts to pack a whole bunch of black

497
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: powder and lead shot and do a really big cartridge

498
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: based on info from a guy in another country that

499
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: you've never met, related to you through two other guys

500
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: you've never met. So he goes on, so please check

501
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: into all this all that, he says, But I know

502
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: you guys are professional, so you'll figure it out. To

503
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: ounces twenty DRAMs of course black powder, ten ounces a shot,

504
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: two mini camera, Yeah, two ounces of course black powder.

505
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: And there's something like you got to use like an

506
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: old timey black powder because the integrity the barrel and

507
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: it's ten ounces shot or one point five ounces of

508
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: fifteen DRAMs or or one point five ounces or fifteen

509
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: DRAMs of course black powder and eight ounces a shot

510
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 1: phil case with powder, measure out shot, fill space between

511
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: powder and shot, making sure no air gap overshot card

512
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: wad to keep shot in place, using scotch tape to

513
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: secure primer. It'll be either a thirty eight or thirty

514
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: two pistol blank or you can figure out a way

515
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: to rig a standard shotgun and primer in it. I

516
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to get him made. Someone out

517
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: there has to have a whole pile of old punt

518
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: gun casing or know someone who does. And well, how

519
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: our safety glasses on? Please write us at meat Eater

520
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: at the meat eator dot com. I'm gonna put a

521
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: safety glasses and maybe like a cut and torch thing

522
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: on clear you know, you know I'm talking about. That

523
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: was one of the funniest things about the pandemic because

524
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, everybody the face shields. It look like a

525
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: welder that they all said face shield on him. It's like,

526
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: not many products say what you know? I mean, so

527
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: a few products say what the product is. It's like, oh, okay,

528
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: all right. Those are the two primary needs I want

529
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: to follow up on one quick thing before we get

530
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: back into what we're talking about, is, at one point

531
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: we're discussing scrolled them injuries and I don't know where

532
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: how did you rEFInd this from? You didn't rEFInd this?

533
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: The guy emailed me like a couple of days ago.

534
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: We hadn't heard from him since January of That's when

535
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: we talked about it on the pod and he yeah, um,

536
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: he just he just emailed me back out of the blue. Okay,

537
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: So so I'm gonna revisit what happened, so so damn long.

538
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: It was one of the better scroll of him stories

539
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: that came in. He was riding horses down his family

540
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: lives in West Texas, UM, but they were down in

541
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: the Chiuahuan Desert of Old Mexico. He came across what

542
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: he now believes was a rattlesnake, and the horse freaked out. Um.

543
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: He fell off the horse and thought he was okay,

544
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: but then looked. I was surprised to see that one

545
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: of his testicles was actually out of it, out of

546
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: the scroll, hanging on by its cord. It's like you

547
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about freeballing, okay, hanging out of his

548
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: jeans and out of the scroll. They had the wherewithal

549
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: to pack it. Ice still hooked to the court kind

550
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: of looked like that conk you're cleaning yesterday. Packed it

551
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: nice and headed for the border, got stopped by federalis.

552
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: One of the kids had a air soft pistol spray

553
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: painted black so it looked like a real gun. The

554
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: FEDERALI see this, he says. There's lots of shouting and

555
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: waving the guns. Someone notices the scroll, the testicle starts

556
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: yelling vominals, fominals and waves of groups. He gets sixteen

557
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: stitches in his leg and twelve stitches. They talked. They

558
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: tucked the nut back in and twelve stitches to the

559
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: scroll to put it back in there. Doctor said ice

560
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: was the best thing that could have done. Now, he

561
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: writes back in, just got to thinking about it, thinking

562
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: about it, and he wanted to add some details. He

563
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: wanted us to know that the cord is called the

564
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: epididymus unsevered that the medical professional said it was a

565
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: good move that he packed in ice, especially because it's

566
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: so hot and dry down there. The main follow up

567
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: possess his uncle worked in a prison for years. His

568
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: uncle said that this is one of the most common

569
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: self inflicted wounds that inmates used to get themselves sent

570
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: to the hospital. It's called a d glove to testicle

571
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: and they do it with a sharpened pencil. For what

572
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: that's worth. Oh, one other thing we gott get into this.

573
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: This is gonna be put bad after this. The fish

574
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: heightst is just getting started. But this is gonna be

575
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: put the bad. Uh. White tailed. So so as everybody

576
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: knows the proper way to say, like the scientifically accepted

577
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: way to say the white tailed deer, the dear we

578
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: all know and love America's dear. If you're ever writing

579
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: a letter to someone, you're supposed to say, you're supposed

580
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: to write white dash tailed deer, not white tails. I

581
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: was saying how heffle Finger is stupid for believing this,

582
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: and I also, in that same conversation regular guest heffle

583
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Finger also who's set to come on pretty soon. I

584
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: also said that he's nipple deep and jaguar stuff. He

585
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: wrote in to say I'm also nipple deep and dear

586
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: stuff he's saying. Despite anding I've said, white tailed deer

587
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: isn't an old version, It isn't something from Pat's world.

588
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: It is the official and correct name of that species.

589
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: It is common to use the colloquial form white tail

590
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 1: or white tails. I use that cont this heffle finger.

591
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: I use that constantly to mix it up and not

592
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: sounds so stiff and formal as one does using the

593
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: correct full name all the time. Then he goes on

594
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: to say it is uncommon among knowledgeable people to use

595
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: white tailed deer or white tails. Pat goes on, this

596
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: is a group email, calls me a thing that I

597
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: can't repeat. On error, he says, you ignorant, it's words

598
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: is not even in my vocabulary. I clearly said that

599
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: white tailed deer is wrong and white tailed deer is right.

600
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: Changing it now on one man's personal preference, long after

601
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the proper name is established in science and literature, as

602
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: shown in the Deer books. I referenced earlier as a

603
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: kin to Fox News calling the Democratic Party it's official name,

604
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. Okay, back to cleaning bluegills from Pat,

605
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm done, Okay, go ahead, but then we're done. Pat

606
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: used a Saturday Night Live reference and called Steve an

607
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: ignorant slut. Okay, because man, when I came back from

608
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: New Zealand, I had a very bad word that got

609
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: into my vocabulary and speaking to my wife again, I

610
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: used it one time who had not go I was like,

611
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're being sua uh alright, So

612
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: first off, Cameron, I want a little more, like a

613
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: little more detail around the story you told about, uh

614
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: saving the your friend. First off, explain your professional occupation,

615
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Like in the story you say like you were in

616
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: were out of can't may where you were somewhere in Florida.

617
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: We're on the west coast Flordia, and you were doing

618
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: you were doing tarban guiding. So I worked at the time,

619
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I got a school and started working on ships. That's

620
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: what I went to college for. Him, to the Merchant

621
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Marine Academy. Yeah, you're you're qualified for anything that floats. Yeah,

622
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: and if it's not floating, we decided I don't want

623
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: anything to do with it. But like you can pilot

624
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: any ship, yes, or drive any whatever the hell you

625
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: call it? What do you call it ships? Yeah? So

626
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: I have an unlimited tonnage captain's license basically like trans

627
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: oceanic stuff we're involved in. So, as you've noticed this week,

628
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I have major fomo you know, for like whatever the

629
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: best thing is going on at the time. So I

630
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: would work for four months at a time and travel

631
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: around the world, um, you know, working on the ships.

632
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: And during that time, I had unlimited resources for charts.

633
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: So I would look at charts like all day long,

634
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: and as the places I would go would be like,

635
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: this looks like it would work because it you know,

636
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: they're blah blah blah. So I would just plan the

637
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: places I was gonna be for my four months off

638
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: for surfing, fishing, spear fishing, and I just traveled around

639
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: the world, just immersed myself in each of these places.

640
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: So like a place like the West coast of Florida, Um,

641
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: I had a buddy that was a Tarpen guide there.

642
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we knew the spear fishing was

643
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: great there. He's like, you know, on our days off,

644
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: we can go, you know, spear fish. I was like,

645
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: all right, I'll come mate for you make two hundred

646
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: bucks a day, you know cash and get to go

647
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: fish for Tarpen every day. So that's when you guys

648
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: were taking you guys were like taking chartering clients to

649
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: fish Tarpen correct and then on a day off. I

650
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: remember like trying to smooth that out, and we were

651
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: editing the the project is uh, you're like you very

652
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: quickly said, I was helping people, You were helping people

653
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: catch tarpen. Yeah. Yeah, So I was working as a mate,

654
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: like on a charter boat there if I do like

655
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: two months at a time with him. But at that

656
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: same time, you were merchant marine and doing the ship work, right,

657
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: So that was in you're done with that, now done

658
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: with that. So that was during my four months you

659
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: know vacations, because you usually you worked for four months

660
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: and then you had four months off. So I knew that,

661
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, Indonesia was good that time of year. So

662
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I'd go to Indonesia for two or three months and like,

663
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, just basically go as far as I could

664
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: and listen to story after story that was gonna link

665
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: me to the next spot to check out, you know,

666
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: and see a picture of a fish in one place

667
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: and figure out where that was and go to the

668
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: next one, and just just kind of grew my you know,

669
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: knowledge base, you know, by traveling, traveling and like really

670
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: being there, you know, not going for two or three days,

671
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: but going for months and then coming back again for months.

672
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: And that's how I like you know, really obviously got

673
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: good at what I do now, but um yeah, fell

674
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: in love with with being at the edge of the

675
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: earth all the time, and and hit real quick, I

676
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: know you're you got your like. You do a handful

677
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: of things, but talking about your like, that's sort of

678
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: like guiding into your business. So my core thing was

679
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: about Um, I guess ten or twelve years ago, somebody

680
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: asked me, hey, will you take me spear fishing? I

681
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: was like, sure, okay, um and they said, what are

682
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you gonna charge? Was like, I don't know because there's

683
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: no real spear fishing guide at the time. Long story short.

684
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Halfway through the first day, he's like, you're really good

685
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: at this. This is what you need to do for work.

686
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: There's a niche for this. It's okay. And he's like, well,

687
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: i'll read book you. I want you to find me.

688
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Uh you know a boat in the Bahamas. Um, take

689
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: my son and his buddies and you know, do a

690
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: trip with them. I'm like, okay. By the time I

691
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: got home from that trip, he had told too of

692
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: his buddies and they called me and from there at man,

693
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: it just blew up. And you know, I always you

694
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: can get the boat, operate the boat. Yeah, so we

695
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: take care all the paperwork. Mostly what I do is

696
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I am hired to go and basically captain other people's boats,

697
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, around the world and mate and guide. So

698
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: my core knowledge base is where and when to go

699
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: and the way my mind has always worked. If I'm

700
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna spend my own money to be on the edge

701
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: of the earth, I want to be at the best

702
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: place at the right time and the right moon tied

703
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: everything to have a chance to world record, and that's

704
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: been one of the hardest things for me. Two shift,

705
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: too is expectations for people might not be there, you know,

706
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: like you know, to go and just get enough fish

707
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: for dinner is what we're doing nine nine percent of

708
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: the days. You know. The record thing is such a

709
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: small part of it. But coming to terms with that

710
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: myself has been tough because my drive is so hard,

711
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: like to go and get records, and personally, I think

712
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I've had fifteen or eighteen records. I've had a bunch,

713
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: but I've I've guided clients even if it's their first

714
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: week ever spear fishing, to a total of like I

715
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: think twenty or twenty five. It's been a bunch. So

716
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Kim and I were talking about this. What I take

717
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: the most pride in now and enjoy the most is

718
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: being able to convey that knowledge to other people to

719
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: get them enjoy you know, what we're doing and enjoy it.

720
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: So now where that's taking my business is I have

721
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: myself and a couple other guys that work with me,

722
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: and people hire us to take him all over the

723
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: world too, you know, hunt different fish. How do you

724
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: get their boats there? Usually I have connections for boats

725
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: in different countries. Um and a lot of guys have

726
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: have the means with these really big, badass boats that

727
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: we can take all over the world. So I've got

728
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: some groups that we've got stuff planned two years out,

729
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: Like we know that we're gonna go to this island

730
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: group in Tahiti this part of the year, and then

731
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: the boat's gonna shift Fiji. Then it's gonna go to

732
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Tonga and go here, here, and here. So we plan

733
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: like there are tenneries as well, like all over the

734
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: world and they fly in and out. Okay, So now

735
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: let's get on with the guy. The guy who pulled

736
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: the bottle of the bottom. He wasn't near the bottom

737
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: of deep thank God, he wouldn't hear the bottom. We're

738
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: like eight foot, so that that's what happens to him,

739
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: if I mean his ear drum's gotta be cooked, right,

740
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: oh man. So when he came up, like Steve's got

741
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: a kind of blue colored on with a it's a

742
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: meat eator shirt with some muskie or something eating another

743
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: fish eating another fish. That color blue on that color

744
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: blue on your shirt is what he was, like, his

745
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: whole face and everything. Like when Karin was c sick

746
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: the other day, she was pretty green, literally turned green.

747
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: He was. He was even more passed. I didn't know

748
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: he he was blue like for all intensive purposes, I

749
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: thought he was dead. And then he had blood coming

750
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: out of everything. You think how hard it is to

751
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: go to the bottom of your pool without equalizing your

752
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: ears that pressure you feel in your ears, imagine going

753
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: like when I pulled the trigger on him, I I

754
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: think I was in seventy ft or eighty foot by

755
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: the time I got to the surface. By the time

756
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: they started pulling him up. God knows how deep he was, oh,

757
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: because he would have kept sinking that he kept sinking,

758
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: because you figure from the depth I was at, it

759
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: would have taken. He's talk about a guy that passed

760
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: out in the water and just started to sink, and

761
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: you have like the this is the I think you

762
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: get into this too. There's like a reflex I didn't know.

763
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't really know about this. You want to like,

764
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: if you pass out under water, why don't you just

765
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: instantly drown? Right, there's like a like a reflex probably

766
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: the dates back to when you're in your mother's womb

767
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: that you don't breathe. It shuts off, like you just

768
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: don't breathe. Your body is doing everything and it's power

769
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: to survive for you doing some dumb ship move that

770
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: kept it from getting ops oxygen. Basically, it's so weird

771
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: to your body just says, right, take a big old

772
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: sucking a big old gold water, so you're your vocal

773
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: courts close and lock down your throat so you're not

774
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: taking any water in and basically you go. You're passed

775
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: out unless you have your snarkle in your mouth exactly.

776
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons we take o. If

777
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: you have your snarkle in your mouth, then you pass out.

778
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: It'll actually funnel water straight down your throat and you've drown. Faster,

779
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: you will actually drown instead of it instead of locking up,

780
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: it'll just like a straw. Before I did, I had

781
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: to learn and later you're supposed to take that thing out.

782
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: We're kids, man, we always kept the right in. There's

783
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: a good reason to take you think about it's like whoop.

784
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: You know that that pressure to because you and any

785
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: there could be like an air pocket there which you

786
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: think you're gonna sip air, right, and so the your

787
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: body shuts down, you're you know totally, you know out basically,

788
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: and you've got these sensors on your face. So when

789
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: you when you come up to the surface, that's what

790
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: your body is waiting for is to feel air because

791
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: you're the sensors on your face can feel that you're

792
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: in the water, and your body is just saying, hey,

793
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: we need to go in total survival mode. We're gonna

794
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: slow down to heart, We're gonna stop breathing, We're gonna

795
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna close or track you like we're I'm sorry,

796
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: close our our vocal cords, like we're just gonna survive

797
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: as long as we can until we feel air again.

798
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: So if you don't feel air, eventually, your body is

799
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey man, we're about to run out

800
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: of all fuel all together. We gotta do a last

801
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: ditch effort, and that's called terminal gap ASP and that

802
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: does eventually happen. Eventually happen. So when you pull someone

803
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: a drowning victim up, who like a who blacked out underwater?

804
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: Now who drowned at the surface. So you gotta you

805
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: gotta really differentiate drowning and blackout. They're totally two. You're

806
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: at the surface golden water when you're drowning, correct, So

807
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: a blackout victim is way easier to deal with than

808
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: than a drown But that blackout victim will eventually inhale water. Correct.

809
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: And you hear about like little Timmy that fell through

810
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: the ice and survived thirty minutes or whatever, age, temperature

811
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: of the water, like all the conditions everything determine how

812
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: long before the terminal gas exactly. So like Timmy falls

813
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: through the ice or whatever, it's basically putting him in

814
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: the refrigerator and slowing him down. Her name for the

815
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: episode the terminal gas. Yeah, that's that's about big What

816
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: about Big Conkin? Though, we need to get a bunch

817
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: of Timmy might survive thirty minutes, you know, and they

818
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: pull him out, and that's such a common store, Yeah,

819
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: Timmy from Minnesota, the ice, uh, but like in warm

820
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: water like that, realistically, you've got four or five six

821
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: minutes maybe, you know, and then you're gonna do that

822
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: terminal gap. And when you do that, then you're in

823
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: deep ship because then you've taken a huge mouthful water

824
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're really in deep ship. So our

825
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: goal is obviously get your get ahold of them as

826
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: fast as you can, close their airway, get them safe

827
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: for the surface, lay them on the back, get their

828
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: mask off, blow tap and talk. So you blow across

829
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: their cheeks, you tap on their face and you tell

830
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: them breathe, breathe, breathe. And in the I mean ten

831
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: people that I've saved and parents been there, four of them. Um,

832
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: almost every one of them has come back with that

833
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: first breath, that first breath across their face. They go

834
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: and take a breath because your body is just like

835
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: waiting for that air. As soon as they feel it,

836
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: it's ready to roll again. And then they're normally like,

837
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: get off me, I'm fine. Yeah. So they have you

838
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: have short term amnesia when you black out, or they're

839
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: crying hysterically, or they're laughing hysterically. You never know what

840
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: the first time I saved someone, he was like I

841
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: was also dancing. So this the he came up and

842
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: how was he? Like, we didn't really get into this,

843
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: like what was his sort of litany of health problems

844
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: after the fact, So he went into he went in

845
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: intensive care unit for like three days because they were

846
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: worried about he had so much fluid in his lungs

847
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: because the aviola and your lungs or whatever, they just

848
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: burst and like you have all that's what all that

849
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: orange foam is that you had, Like he was spitting

850
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: out and all that. So he had so much fluid

851
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: in his lungs. They were worried about pneumonia, you know,

852
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: secondary drowning, all that kind of stuff. So try to

853
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: they treat the ear problem. I don't even know when

854
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: he's bleeding out his ears. Yeah, ears, I mean I

855
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: want to say I remember him bleeding out of his eyes.

856
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean there was blood everywhere. Like if you if

857
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: you had a picture of him right when he came

858
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: up and be like that guy, there's no way, like

859
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: he's got to have so much stuff going on, but

860
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: and he got back in the water after that. Yeah,

861
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: he actually had a samba about a year later when

862
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: we were together and I grabbed him when he was soombing,

863
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's when he's like close to blacking out.

864
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: I was like, Steve, his name is Steve, Steve, don't

865
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: funk with me on this. It's like, don't do this

866
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: ever again. You know. And he's an avid diver. Yea,

867
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: I told you he's my insurance guy. Yeah, right, what

868
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: are the chances of that? Yeah, I like something happened,

869
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: you'll understand. Uh so you guys, you guys do a

870
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: little business together. Yeah, yeah, mostly he does business for me.

871
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: I guess now, did he come out of that super cautious?

872
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it was an eye opener.

873
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: And honestly, like I've gotten so many messages over the

874
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: years from like the next morning after that happened, I

875
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: just wrote the story down, you know, no filter, just

876
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: exactly how it happened, and um, it was most it

877
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: was mostly like cathartic for me, just to kind of

878
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: get it off my chest because it was so traumatic

879
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: for me. But I can't tell you how many you know,

880
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: dozens and dozens of people's over the years have said

881
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: that made me conscious enough to be watching my buddy

882
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: to save their life. You know. Thank you for sharing that,

883
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: because it's such a I don't want to say it's taboo,

884
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: but it's like a ma cheesy, mooth thing that like

885
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: people don't talk about in diving because they're usually embarrassed,

886
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, because like people aren't gonna think that I'm

887
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: that good of a diver or whatever, but like you

888
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: gotta be aware, like that's more dangerous than any shark,

889
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, is blacking out your own drive to not survive. Basically,

890
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: it's so true. It really, It is something that when

891
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: it happens, everyone just kinda keeps quiet, you know, and um,

892
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to embarrass somebody. But when when that article,

893
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: because what you wrote got published in What You Skin

894
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: Diver magazine, And when that came out and I read

895
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: it like it, I was grateful for it, Like it

896
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: definitely made me that much more careful to always like

897
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: watch the person, like even after they come up, because

898
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you're so eager to die that you see them

899
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: take a breath and then you go down. But it's

900
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: like you got to actually wait you know, because sometimes

901
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: people can come up, breathe even talk and then pass

902
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: out what you were recognized by the coast Guard. Yeah,

903
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: so what was that? So the coast Guard met us

904
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: like as soon as we got him up, like I

905
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: was like the Tasmanian devilill run around the boat when

906
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: we got in. Um, you know, cut the anchor on

907
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: and get on the radio called coast card blah blah blah.

908
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: So we start running in. We're like sixty miles off shore.

909
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: The coast Guard met us about forty miles out, put

910
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: him in the basket in the helicopter and took him in. Um.

911
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: So about six months later I got a call from

912
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: the Coastguard and you're like, hey, this is you know

913
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: Officer so and so. Um, you know we're doing investigation

914
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: into you know, this thing that happened with Steve off

915
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: shore blah blah blah. And I'm like ship man and

916
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: told hi. Us was like, hey man, look I've been

917
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: through a lot with this, Like I didn't do anything wrong.

918
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: They're like no, no, no, no, no, Like it's actually

919
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: a good thing. Um, the Coastguard wants to recognize you

920
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: for uh possibly getting an award. Was like Okay, so

921
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: it did this investigation. Doing a long story short, the

922
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: Coastguard gives out two life saving awards, a silver and

923
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: a gold, and the um they awarded me the silver

924
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: life Saving Award, which is the basic premise behind it

925
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: is someone that basically completely forgets about their own safety

926
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: puts themselves in in total peril to save someone else. Um.

927
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: And when they gave me the award, the Admiral Um,

928
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: the head of the Coastguard, was there and I think

929
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, all the senators, can or spends and all

930
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: the military people. It was a big deal. Um. He

931
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: told the story, and I mean, it's hard for me

932
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: to tell a story like having it on the audiobook

933
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: is the best thing ever for me because I never

934
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: have to tell it again. That's what you're saying. Now

935
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: you can just people like you can refer people to

936
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: the link because it's tough to tell. Um. But you know,

937
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: everybody like started standing up in there and everything. It was.

938
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. But he said, in my you know,

939
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: forty years of being in the Coast Guard, I've only

940
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: given this award two other times and it was posthumously. Uh,

941
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: like the people died saving somebody else. If So it

942
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: was the the award that I would least want to

943
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: have for the reason I would least want to have it,

944
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, you know, because it's something you

945
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: never want to do and you could never plan, you know.

946
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: But in all the years of spear fishing with people

947
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: around the world and being in remote places, we had

948
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: always said, you know, if you can't get me, or

949
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: you're thinking you can't get me, shoot me, because at

950
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: least you'll be rigidly attached. Because if I'm already gonna die,

951
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: shoot me in the leg, you know, don't shoot me

952
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: in the chest from whatever, you know, shoot me in

953
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: the leg. But that was that would have been My

954
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: original goal was to shoot him in the calf, but

955
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: he turned. I met a guy just recently who was

956
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: recovering a victim, and he was on tanks and he

957
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: dove down to the base of an oil rig found

958
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: the victim. I couldn't get him up, and decided to

959
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: drag him over and tie him to the foot of

960
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: the rig so that he wouldn't have to worry about

961
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: trying to find him again later, and then tying the

962
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: guy's body to the foot of the rig. He got

963
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: so messed up, he wound up ape, he lost track

964
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: of time, and he wound up one of those decompression

965
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: chambers because he had to bomb up to the surface. Yeah,

966
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: it's the diving thing. Honestly. I I personally think free diving,

967
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: with having been trained for it, is way safer than

968
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: the scuba because you can take any person off the

969
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: street street, give him a scuba tank it, you know, wherever,

970
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: and then go down as deep as they want, because

971
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: all they gotta do is breathe, you know. Whereas free diving,

972
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: your body is telling you, hey, you need to go up,

973
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, like you if if you have that self

974
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: preservation gene you know which everybody in this room has

975
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: just from spending time with you. You know, we all

976
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: want to come home. We know we're gonna be able

977
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: to get fish, but we all want to come home.

978
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: There's people that just don't have that synapse in their brain.

979
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, They're they're gonna push it as hard as

980
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: they can every time. And parent I call it like

981
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: the the race car driver, you know, thing like if

982
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: they're on a motorcycle, they're gonna pin it every time.

983
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna go as fast as they can. If in

984
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: the class. They could do a d FT free dive

985
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: every dive. That's how deep they think they can go.

986
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: And you think about even when we're diving in t

987
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, for the lobsters, it's not every time you

988
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: can even you know, spend more than ten seconds down there.

989
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes you didn't get to good breath or whatever. Imagine

990
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: trying to do that super deep. Here's asking for trouble. Okay,

991
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: back to the Bahamas. I want to I want to

992
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: get into a little bit about like the sort of

993
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: regulatory structure in the Bahamas. And the reason I bring

994
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: it up is the only place I've ever been where

995
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: size limits on fish is expressed in pounds. Have you

996
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: ever heard of that anywhere? I think in the Mediterranean

997
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: they do that. And the boat limit is in pounds

998
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: as well. The other thing to note is for a

999
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: Bahamian registered boat with Bahamians on board, the regulations are

1000
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: different than for us because we're a foreign flagged vessel.

1001
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh there's not at all. Yeah, for them, there's nothing,

1002
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: none at all, no lot, no size limit for lobsters.

1003
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: You still got your size limit, philpsters, your group and

1004
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But we can get as much as

1005
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: we want got it, So give me hit me with

1006
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: a couple of these like size things. It's weird because

1007
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: like a lobster, for for a foreign vessel, a lobster tail,

1008
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not the lobster, it's how long his tail is.

1009
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: And that's expressed in regular old inches, so five and

1010
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: a half inches, right, So it's five and a half inches,

1011
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: which for the area that we are, and for the

1012
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: number that we're allowed to get, which is ten, you're

1013
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: never even gonna come, you know, worry about that because

1014
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: most of the ones we got were like five pounds.

1015
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean they were big. Well I'll point out that

1016
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: in my um very juvenile efforts in the Bahamas some

1017
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: a few years ago, we couldn't find one of the

1018
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: five half We're like, you know, right out like kind

1019
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: of like out in front of where they lived, right

1020
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: along Long Island. Couldn't you know, You'd think it looks

1021
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: huge and you bring it up like in different areas

1022
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: of the Bahamas have general different sizes. I don't know

1023
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: what it is about here and a couple other spots

1024
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas, but the access to deep water or

1025
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: the temperature or whatever, these big giant ones off the

1026
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: wall and come up in shallow um, but other places

1027
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: you go, you'll you'll just never find one in all

1028
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: your time, you know, looking um, they're all going to

1029
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: be those little ones that are just barely legal. So

1030
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: you can take them by hand by a hook, which

1031
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I think we probably have some video Brandon hooking him.

1032
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: What is it called hook hooking? Hook and joke? Hook

1033
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: and joke? So what's the word hook and joke? Like

1034
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: a j j Okay, so tell them so like the

1035
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: bottom when you kill him, that's the joking pot joking,

1036
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: hook and joke. Do you use the word joke for

1037
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: other things or does it just mean like specific to lobsters,

1038
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: that means stab stop? Okay? So, uh, you can shoot

1039
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: them with a pulse bear or sling, which the regulations

1040
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: for underwater hunting here is just something triggerless. You can't

1041
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: have a way of resting, you know, or how how

1042
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: of this hit so basically loaded power that you don't

1043
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: have to you know, touch or whatever you can like

1044
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: let go and then shorthand you can't use a spear gun, correct,

1045
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: You have to use the thing where you like hand,

1046
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: your hand is holding it and it's triggered, not triggered,

1047
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: you release your hand and let it go. There's no

1048
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: way to store the energy. Right, So for the rest

1049
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: of the world, what they call a Hawaiian sling, the

1050
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: rest of the world does is a hand spirit what

1051
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: we call poll spear, in which Hawaiians call not a

1052
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,959
Speaker 1: Hawaiian sling three prong or there is a Hawaiian sling,

1053
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a little different. I think that

1054
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: normally has like a free flying shaft, and so what

1055
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: we use on this chip we just call it pull spears.

1056
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: But then it has a three prong on it, then

1057
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: we just don't even call it a pul spear, just

1058
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: call it a three prong, right, And the local go

1059
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: to is a true Hawaiian sling, which is basically a

1060
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: piece of cylinder would with a hole through the middle

1061
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: of it and a piece of and tied to it,

1062
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: and they'll put like a notch in the back of

1063
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: a spear gun looking spear with no um you know,

1064
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: rests on it or whatever, and they shoot it like

1065
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: a bow arrow and it just goes free. So for

1066
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: most that's used here, that's the traditional way to do it.

1067
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: That's why I like in those holes where we found

1068
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: the grouper, there's multiple shafts in there because you shoot

1069
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: a fish and they haul butt with it. We would

1070
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: never have gotten a yellow jack like if we'd been

1071
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: using those because they just take off with it. Oh,

1072
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: so that's what the shafts were. That's all makeing sense now.

1073
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: And then uh, a little more on regulatory who like

1074
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: who is the governing regulatory body in the Bahamas for fisheries,

1075
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: the defense false defense force? That sounds real hardcore and yeah,

1076
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: and how would like how often is it that? And

1077
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say this as a way to

1078
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: promote any kind of like derelict behavior, but how often

1079
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: do they patrol? Yeah? Well the main places a Nassa,

1080
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: that's where the base is, but they also send boats

1081
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: to different islands the station now for a short period

1082
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: of time, and their patrol these areas. But an avocode

1083
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: I barely see him. Okay. Another regulatory thing, like we're

1084
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: talking about the weight things, so certain grouper need to

1085
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: be three pounds. It's not an inch thing. So I

1086
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: think that's the reason that's so tricky is like take

1087
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: take something that you know what it weighs. Like let's

1088
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: say you have like a certified three pound weight and

1089
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: then go grab a whole bunch of scales, right and wait,

1090
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of times you're gonna get two pounds fifty

1091
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: ances you're gonna get three pounds two. It's like with

1092
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: by measuring of fish, it's like it takes out some

1093
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: level of debate. It's like that fish is blank long.

1094
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: It just seems like I'm into it. It just seems

1095
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: like a strange thing to enforce. Yeah, it's a shot

1096
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: in the dark. And it's weird because that's the only

1097
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: isn't that the only fish there's actually but they're actually

1098
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: and um talking about slot sizes nobly it would probably

1099
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: be a good thing. The other thing is like, so

1100
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: that's Brandon making that. But the other problem is you

1101
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody to enveloce agreed, agreed, and from a foreigner,

1102
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, coming here and seeing all the dere look

1103
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: people that do bad stuff here, you know, Um, sadly

1104
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: it's it's mostly people visiting, you know that don't follow

1105
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: the regulations. And you know it's unfortunate because there's such

1106
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: an unbelievable resource here and um, you know, you want

1107
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: to protect this, you want this to be able to

1108
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, keep going for our kids to be able

1109
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: to do it, obviously, but the the the different regulations

1110
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: they have are wild. So they've got it's ten lobsters

1111
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: per boat. For foreign vessel, it's eight conk with a

1112
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: developed lip lip which we've got in the bucket here

1113
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: and we'll clean those in a it. Oh yeah. People

1114
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: get frustrated when we're doing stuff on the show, like

1115
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: we had a guy making Clovis points and people are

1116
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: really annoy because they couldn't see it. This can be

1117
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: one of those things that really annoys people. Well, video

1118
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: it to listen to someone clean account it's no. Yeah,

1119
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: it's a noisy process though, right, kept off film it

1120
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: and we'll put on Instagram. There we go. So even

1121
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: for logic's different as well. So it's eighteen is read

1122
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: Gosh that what I sent you? You read it? So

1123
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: I think during COVID they've updated some regulations because they

1124
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: had some time. Um. But it used to be you're

1125
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: allowed eighteen polagic fish. It can be a combination of dolphin, wahoo, tuna, um.

1126
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's their main ones are worried about.

1127
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: There's no billfish landing in the Bahamas unless it's for

1128
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: a tournament. So for a tournament, they'll say, hey, if

1129
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: you get a fish over five pounds or whatever the

1130
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: size limit is for that specific tournament, they can kill it,

1131
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: which is a very strange. That's real weird, real weird.

1132
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: So you asked about swordfish here, Well, that's kind of

1133
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: like a money talk sort of thing that right, Like

1134
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: you're bringing like a massive amount of economic activity down.

1135
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: But the thing is not many get killed during tournaments. Surprisingly,

1136
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: which is now fifty and twenty years ago. That's a

1137
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: different story. It's a lot more bigger maleins in. Sharks

1138
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: are totally off limits in the Bahamas? Is that true now? Yes,

1139
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: so it's totally closed. They're not allowed to kill him.

1140
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: You can catch them, you just gotta release it. And

1141
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: what about turtles, you're not allowed to kill them? No,

1142
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: Unfortunately in your lifetime where turtles ever open, they had

1143
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: a season just like um they used to open and

1144
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: closed the same time as crossing season. Oh, how long ago,

1145
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: like when you're six years ago, seven years ago? Doing

1146
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: at the most? Yeah, for a commercial market, personal personal

1147
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: and what ones were you after? Green turtles? And how

1148
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: would that go down? It's kind of violent, but I

1149
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: mean we used to use fifteen foot pole and I

1150
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 1: had a pair of grains on the entire to rope

1151
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: and a gallon bottle and just strike them with it

1152
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: and they'll take it and run with it and just

1153
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: pull them back up. Strike them with what pair of grains?

1154
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: What it is? It's uh you well, like two barbs,

1155
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: Like they're probably about that why they go in and

1156
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: they can't come out and you drive it with what

1157
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: a pole? Yeah? Just straight through the shell? Well, typically

1158
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: we like to do it down towards the back end,

1159
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: that little striple just shell, so you don't damage the insides,

1160
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: the guts and all that. But me's started when I

1161
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: first started doing it, I got cursed out many times

1162
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: from my phone. He's sending up shoving it straight through

1163
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: the top end bottom, No, because you mess up all insides.

1164
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: And he used to eat the bottom pot as well,

1165
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: like calop that's traditionally in the camant. Can't stand that.

1166
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't like what is that is that? It's like

1167
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: a it's like a gelatine. What's the yield on a turtle?

1168
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of people actually just when they kill turtles,

1169
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: they just take the two front flippers, that's the biggest.

1170
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: But when you get turtles. The best size they eat

1171
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: is anywhere from fifty pounds. Anything above that is it

1172
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: starts to get a little tougher, Like I've gotten some

1173
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty hundred and sixty pounds, and you will

1174
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: taste the difference the taste of the turtle and the

1175
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: texture of the main meat is in the front flippers.

1176
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: That's where the most is. That's where the most that's

1177
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: the biggest muscle mass. I noticed that checking them out

1178
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: when they're just when they decided kicking in high gear.

1179
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: The back feet don't do ship. Yeah, they're talking go man,

1180
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: I had no idea they could go that fast. Oh.

1181
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: Then things sometimes like when we chase them, if they

1182
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: don't just stay there on the bottom, we'll have to

1183
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: get on playing and chase them around until they come

1184
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: on fire. Then you stick them. Man, that's gotta be

1185
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: like a good time. That is a very good I

1186
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. They have a lot of guts. Huh. I

1187
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: heard that cleaning them can be pretty stinky. No, I

1188
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: mean to me, I'm kind of used it. But yes,

1189
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: another interesting thing with them, like you know we're used

1190
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: to like fish blood where you when you shoot a

1191
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: fish in a hole. You see the blood coming out

1192
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: just kind of disperses or whatever looks green even on

1193
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: the surface of blood kind of comes out. Man, when

1194
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: you clean the turtle, it's like leshmon blood, it's got

1195
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: so much oxygen in it. Like I hit one with

1196
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: the boat accidentally many years ago, and I looked behind me.

1197
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell did I hit like

1198
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: a red tarp and went back and it was a turtle,

1199
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: and I mean it had an area the size of

1200
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: this room full of blood. And I was like, jeeze,

1201
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: I was in the US, Like I felt so horrible,

1202
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: but like, you know, what are you gonna do? Like

1203
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: they come up and the such a big animal. Man. There.

1204
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: One of the most surprising things I have been countered

1205
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: eating turtles is I was in South America and they were, uh,

1206
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: preparing turtle eggs. And you know, when you take a

1207
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: regular chicken egg right and cook it, the yolk solidifies obviously,

1208
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: it's like the white part or sorry, not the yolk.

1209
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: The white solidifies like the yolk does its thing, and

1210
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: the white does its thing. When you cook turtle eggs,

1211
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: the yoke, like the orange part turns into what you'd

1212
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: imagine it would like a very intense it's like a

1213
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: it's like a chicken egg times ten intense flavored yolk nous,

1214
01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: but the white doesn't solidify, so you'd bit out of there.

1215
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: It was a hard thing to get into. The most

1216
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: sought out, like a lot of people have died side,

1217
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: so the most sought after, like when I was a kid,

1218
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, for getting soft shell turtles, and then you know,

1219
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: our family down at the Cayman Islands for the turtles

1220
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: was the undeveloped eggs still inside of turtle, like when

1221
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: you ever those ones that are still yellow and they're

1222
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: all they're like a pink membrane around him. And those

1223
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: were the best ones because then you just cook that

1224
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: whole thing whole, really cooking in a pan, like next

1225
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: time you catch like a soft sheller. But I can't remember,

1226
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: to be honest, like we only did it when I

1227
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: was a little kid. No, I can't do all that

1228
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: speaking almost dying, Krian, I didn't, uh, I didn't know that.

1229
01:11:53,760 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: You're so susceptible, dude to the seasickness. You're like Janice, Really,

1230
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: he's that bad? Is so bad? We were one time.

1231
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: Not we're on like a twenty two ft boat was

1232
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: so seasick. He didn't realize we were fighting a swordfish,

1233
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: and there's no like cabin like a boat was steering

1234
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: wheel in the middle. Came under the realization that we

1235
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: were fighting a swordfish seasick. So maybe I could have

1236
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: been a little bit better prepared. It's been a long

1237
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: time since I got in seasick. But growing up, I

1238
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: was one of those kids on the big yellow school

1239
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: bus who always was carrying like a brown paper bag

1240
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: in case I bombed. So, Um, you were green. You

1241
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: were actually green yesterday. God, I never picture of me.

1242
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: I would have wanted to see that, but yeah, no,

1243
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: just day one minus drama. Men. I didn't take anything

1244
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 1: for it. I thought it would be great, and I

1245
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: was fine for for a number of hours. Um, and

1246
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: you guys were all in the water and I was

1247
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: hanging I was brandon on the boat, and at some

1248
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: point it just hit me. I think I was maybe

1249
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: mid sentence with you, and I just was like, excuse me,

1250
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: gotta go, and nothing, nothing came out. But I went

1251
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: to yeah, a little bit of a dry heave, and

1252
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: a went went to the to the pit of the

1253
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: boat and just kind of like rolled into a little

1254
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: ball uh and was like that for a while, and

1255
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: then I thankfully was able to I got some drama

1256
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: mean in me I slept, but then I was still sick.

1257
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: I probably took the drama mean too late. It was terrible.

1258
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's insane. For anyone who's ever been

1259
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: seasick before, it's almost like there's nothing worse. You just

1260
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: totally You're disoriented, everything hurts, you're don't it's just bad.

1261
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I'll ask Brandon about this too, because

1262
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: whenever I'm was someone who's getting sea sick, we tell

1263
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: not to go down out of sight, but to stay

1264
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: up and walk, like concentrate on something that's not moving,

1265
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: like try to look off at the horizon. Didn't work

1266
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: for me, But you suggested that she go down because

1267
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: because of the because there was air conditions to keep you.

1268
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: There was a c it was in the center of

1269
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: the boat down below, and I was moving less. That

1270
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: somewhat therapeutic. So it was somewhat therapeutic. And I also

1271
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: hadn't like slept that much the past couple of days,

1272
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: but that I was the fact that I was able

1273
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: to get like just a tiny bit more comfortable and

1274
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: then you got some drugs in me, and then I

1275
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: was able to pass out. And then I woke up

1276
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: hours later and I'm like I have to record them

1277
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: coming up with this fish. And he's like that that

1278
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: already happened like four times over. He missed half the day, sweetheart,

1279
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: and then you got deserted. You got so then I

1280
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: thought I felt better. When you guys came back on

1281
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: the boat, I was a little bit better. And then

1282
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: it happened all over again. I guess that's when I

1283
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: turned green again. And uh, and they all they brought

1284
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: me to a deserted island and left me there like castaway,

1285
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful island. It was beautiful. She had a little

1286
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: volley what was that little volleyball on castle that they got?

1287
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: Pack of dogs ever come there? That I was. No

1288
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: pack of dogs didn't come. They just they left me

1289
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: to the dogs, guys. But no, as soon as I

1290
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: was ashore, I mean, that was the whole point, right,

1291
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 1: Like Steve, you were like, you're gonna feel better in

1292
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: just like five minutes, and it's probably three minutes and

1293
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 1: I felt totally normal again. You guys took off and

1294
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, screw this. I'm not the type of person

1295
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: who just like lies down in the sand and sun basee.

1296
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go hunt. So then I

1297
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: went and got conk for the first time. So that

1298
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: was my first getting conk out of the water. And

1299
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: you were fine, like you found the proper, proper I mean,

1300
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: the next couple of days you found the proper little

1301
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: cocktailer meds yeah, totally yeah, non drowsy drama means, my friend,

1302
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: it was great. Yet the rest of the trip, I

1303
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: had absolutely no problem with zero zero issue, zero issue,

1304
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: day two, day three, etcetera. You're gonna have a lot

1305
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,440
Speaker 1: of people writing you, um folk remedies. My neighbor in Alaska,

1306
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: Ron Layton, here's what he told me. I mean, he

1307
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 1: was like a professional longliner, right, like he's like a

1308
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: man of the sea. And he said, there's one way

1309
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: to cure seasickness. He told me that they made him

1310
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: do it when he was a kid. Every time you

1311
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: start getting seasick, you drink. They make you drink a

1312
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: big mug of salt water and so you puke. And

1313
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: he said that's how you cure it. I mean, but

1314
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 1: he half the stuff that guy tells me, it's like

1315
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 1: everything he tells me, where he tells me, I'm like,

1316
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: there's no way that's true. Now ever, sent the things

1317
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: he tells me, my initial thing is that can't be true.

1318
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: Fifty of the time it is, so now you can't

1319
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: ignore I can't ignore anything he tells me because I'm like,

1320
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: there's a like half half the time he tells me something,

1321
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, it is true. I mean, I can see

1322
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: that as kind of like a miserable lead up to

1323
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: a lot of relief because if you throw up, you'll

1324
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: feel better. But I don't. I mean, with that really

1325
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: like carrier, then I feel like you'd be on round two.

1326
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: That cures. That's what he had to do. And that's

1327
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: if you're if that's if you want to get serious

1328
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: about solving your six problem, you had drink big things

1329
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: of salt. It seems so miserable, dude, when you're like

1330
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't know, do drink a picture

1331
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: of salt water that'll feel great. I'm somehow not convinced,

1332
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 1: But okay, um, what is the story with what's the

1333
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: story with a lot? Like? What? What? What? What y'all

1334
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: call a lobster condo lobster trap in the States, they

1335
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: call it a condo, which is they're illegal. Now they've

1336
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 1: they've outlawed being able to put out artificial structures for lobsters.

1337
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: There was a big hubbub about it. She was probably

1338
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago now in Florida, UM, and they just

1339
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: did away with it completely. Um. But in the Bahamas,

1340
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: the commercial lobster guys, you want to talk about dedicated

1341
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: people to working year round, to making their living. It's

1342
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. But I'll let Brandon tell kind of how

1343
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: it's done. So for like lobster, and it's a lot

1344
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: of money involved in it just to make it. So

1345
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: you'll buy it's basically roof and tent, but it's treated

1346
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: with I think it's um galvanized tent a lost long ago.

1347
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: So what you'll do You get a stock a tent

1348
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: that comes with a hundred sheets in it. Then you'll

1349
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: get some two by sexes cement blocks. Then you need

1350
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: uh the Cuban rope, the block we call it trap rope.

1351
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: So you're your blocks dof yes, you're tied it blocks

1352
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: to the tin. Nail it off then off. That's for

1353
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: the setting. Them describe the structure like how you make

1354
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: a structure like where where the positioning or the wood

1355
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Okay, so the would would be

1356
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: length wigs of the tent, so to be I think

1357
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: that's six by three would be the measurement of the

1358
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: drop when you finished. So you're making you're making an

1359
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: artificial ledge for lobsters, basically a hole that's the perfect

1360
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: height six inches off the bottom and six ft deep

1361
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: three ft wide, and you put it out where there

1362
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: there's no other real structure. Um it can be in

1363
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: proximity rocks or whatever, but the majority and they put

1364
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: up in the grass, so it's not even near where

1365
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: people are normally gonna go. Look, but the lobsters are

1366
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: out there feeding in the grass, so like you know,

1367
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: feeding and they're like, oh yeah, there's a great place

1368
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: to live, and they stay there. And each lobster boat

1369
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: will have thousands of these. They'll set thousands of the

1370
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: big thousands, big commercial boats they set thousands, tens of

1371
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: thousands waiting matt let Let's imagine like this, some people

1372
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: can understand. Imagine that you took a sheet apply wood,

1373
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just make it understandable as possible. He took

1374
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: a sheet apply would and bolted or nailed a couple

1375
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: four by fours to it, and set the four by

1376
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: fours on the bottom of the sea so that the

1377
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: sheet apply would is sitting how many inches off the

1378
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: bottom six inches? And then all manners ship can crawl

1379
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: under that sheet apply wood and fit between the bottom

1380
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: and the sheet apply would and they just so what

1381
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: the crawfish does as well. If you ever noticed the traps,

1382
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: then they more than six inches deep, So what the

1383
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: craw fish should do when they go in, they'll dig

1384
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: it out. And if you ever noticed in front of

1385
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: the traps you see them shells, they eat them. They

1386
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: dig it out the bottom and eat it, and they

1387
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: come and go as they So what are called spiny

1388
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: lobsters you guys called croes. Yeah, it's a claw that's

1389
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: just folks on. It's a clawless lobster, which has an

1390
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: enormous range. I mean they're everywhere. But like Americans, when

1391
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Americans visualized lobster, always thinking of the main lobster, the

1392
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: claude lobster. Uh. And when you set one of those out,

1393
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: when you when you were doing this professionally, you set

1394
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: one of those out, like what kind of volume of

1395
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: lobsters would turn up under one of those. So the

1396
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: most way've ever I would say I've gotten from one

1397
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: that's about sixty pounds of tails, So that's probably under

1398
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: one of those. I've seen it sometimes when crawfish move

1399
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: off at a heavy cold front com I've seen crawlfish

1400
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: as so many they can't fit under it. They just

1401
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: stocked all on the outside. When you get there, you

1402
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: can see the big dog spot on the bottom. It's

1403
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: so much around it and on top it's like opening

1404
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: like a condo cabinet in New York City shining a

1405
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: flashlight and the cockroaches scatter out. So when you notice

1406
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: one time when you were going down to check one,

1407
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: you went down and kind of knocked on it. What

1408
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: were you doing? So what happens like that's just me

1409
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: personally doing it. But if you knock on it to

1410
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: come today edges and stick to antenna's out interesting taking

1411
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: and just knock it buying it and you can see

1412
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: him they come out, stick to antenna's out a little

1413
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: bit and you kind of get an assessment what's going

1414
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: on in there? Yeah, I thought you were gonna say

1415
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: it's because of the more it is, Because the more

1416
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: it will come back. I don't even check for all

1417
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: that stuff. So then you went down and you got

1418
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: your You got a hook basically got three and a

1419
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: half foot Dowell. So what it is, it's actually uh

1420
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: Hawaiian sling shaft. I cut it in half. That's six

1421
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: ft shaft, so it's three ft long. You take a

1422
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: paint bush brush roller the handle off of that, use

1423
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: that uh brass fitting for it's the al adopter for

1424
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: you dry gas tanks. You put that on the end

1425
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: of the spill and you're shopping at top point. Then

1426
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: how it's got the thread, You could screw it into

1427
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 1: the handle of the print brush roller, drop through it,

1428
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: put a little pin in it. Then you fill the

1429
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: handle up with fiberglass resent to give it more wait wait,

1430
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: and also the whole it long ago that the top

1431
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: piece is just I think it's a ten old fishing hook,

1432
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: and just shave the little bed off so they can't

1433
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: get stuck on it. The barb the barb, and you

1434
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: screw it on, put a little screw through it, tighten

1435
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: it down. Then over it you slide a big crimp,

1436
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: take it to hydraulic press and they press it and

1437
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: that's your hook made up compared to what they sell

1438
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars. And then you go down and it

1439
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: surprised me. I don't know if you just reach none

1440
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: of their hook in the mouth, but you go out

1441
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: down and just flip the whole damn thing over while

1442
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: they go all over the That wasn't intentional. Oh you

1443
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: weren't trying to do I don't. I don't flip it

1444
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: over for that same reason. They just I like the

1445
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: lift up. I thought maybe you were showing me what

1446
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: was going on, or I could tell what you're doing.

1447
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: So that's not normally. Normally when when we do it,

1448
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: we have a shot piece of PVC pipe, Okay, we've

1449
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: propped one side up on it when you're doing like

1450
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: industrial grade. So what I'm doing when I was doing

1451
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: a commercial and just rake out all you could hook

1452
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 1: from it down, but I like to rake out a

1453
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: certain amount. Look through it. See what's big enough, what's

1454
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: not big enough? Hook whatever, say is big enough? Let

1455
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: the raskill go back, rak out some of the next

1456
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: side opposite side what you just did, because all the

1457
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: dust and mud and everything, so you can see on

1458
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: the side. Just go from side to side, and you

1459
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: always do when you're doing this commercially, you're doing it

1460
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: tankless right with a compressor, or you do do okay,

1461
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: so you're down there just working away commercially. If you

1462
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: want to do it on a commercial scale, free divan

1463
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: is in the way to go. I see that's too much.

1464
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: And watch up and down because you yeah, and you

1465
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: hook it, and you take the hook and you're basically

1466
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: hooking it under his right where his tail meets his head. Oh, which,

1467
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: what do you call it? Carapist? So it's interesting to note,

1468
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: like it's even hard to get a video this most

1469
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: of the time. But when they're hooking him, they're hooking

1470
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: them there and you hook and then your other hand

1471
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: is here, Oh my other hands like just sitting to

1472
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: the side, and I bring it to me, hold it

1473
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: like this, same time I grab it, I push up.

1474
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is like when you hook him,

1475
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: you're hooking them and they're normal, they're like feet around

1476
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: the bottom, but you hook him and their tail flips,

1477
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: they flip upside down and he's catching their tail now

1478
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 1: facing towards him, and then in one motion he's joking it,

1479
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: killing it right in the center of the carapace. Underknee,

1480
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: tossing that the side and doing it again. And it's

1481
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: kind of like if you're holding a fry pan and

1482
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: you're flipping it. I'm just trying to give the audience

1483
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: a visual like you're just kind of like flipping it

1484
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: towards you pretty much. And it's the efficiency with which

1485
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: they do it is unbelievable. Like on a I don't

1486
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: know how to gauge like how many can be done

1487
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: in a certain period of time, but saying a in

1488
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: a in a free dive, in a one minute free dive,

1489
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: a free dive like where he was the other day.

1490
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: If it was just me, I probably could oak six

1491
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: or seven at a time, and you just kind of

1492
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: scared them around on the bottom. I just throw him

1493
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: out from under the trap. If you kill them, yeah,

1494
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't lost like when you were stopping to pick

1495
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: them up. I don't like other people picking oak a

1496
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: little track. Then I'll sit up around. I didn't know

1497
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: what you were doing because I thought you lost him. No,

1498
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: I kept I always keep accounting. So then I went

1499
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: and put him in your little pile because I didn't

1500
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: realize you were putting them there on purpose. I thought

1501
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: you dropped it something. I'm just trying to figure it out.

1502
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: And you do not like what you do that you

1503
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: can't hear what you're saying. You're underwater something like pieces

1504
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: together and you guys would sometimes do five hundred pounds

1505
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 1: in a day of tails. Tales, just tales. It's working

1506
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: your ass off. The most I've ever done with my

1507
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: father was almost eight hundred and one day. That's a

1508
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: big like, that's a big day financially, right, that's a

1509
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: huge day. Depending on the price too. Sometimes little average

1510
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: normally to start like seven eight dollars aupong, but last

1511
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: year was I think it was last year. Last year

1512
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: was the highest it's been for a very long time.

1513
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: It started at fourteen and to the end of the season,

1514
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it ended off like twenty two or how

1515
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Now this year it started off as ten dollars. Have

1516
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:02,879
Speaker 1: you done commercial conk isshing? No too much work involved

1517
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: For the price of cong what is it? What? What

1518
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: would be the price of cock? I think it's like

1519
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: to the wholesale place, what we're setting the two would

1520
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: be like three dollars a pound, god dollars clean clean, cleaned,

1521
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: no no shell, nothing, no skin on it, everything cleaned,

1522
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: it's too much work for the price. You guys will

1523
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: find out why soon because we're going to clean the

1524
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: conck on areas. It's not gonna get that from your

1525
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: normal podcast. But the way this season is going so

1526
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: far and Abago, my father said he's just gonna set

1527
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: fish pots. He can make more money really just because

1528
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: the markets. It's no girlfish. Oh there's none really. The

1529
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: first day he had he got a hundred and eleven

1530
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: pounds compared to average of four to five hundred pounds

1531
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: the first day. So what do you think makes a

1532
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: difference from year to you as to whether there's a

1533
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: good season or not out of season fishing? Really you

1534
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: think so? You don't think it's environmental conditions or hurricanes

1535
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: or current or any of that. Interesting. Oh yeah, all yeah,

1536
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: all summer long. My father said that there's small boats

1537
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: down neckar official and what the first day is to be. Now,

1538
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stock at a point of patrol, and

1539
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw any nations under the bus. But

1540
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other nations that are historically blamed

1541
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: here for invading Bohemian waters. And there is a which

1542
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: is true hatred, I mean a solid hatred for good

1543
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: reason for them coming and stealing the resource because they

1544
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: kill everything. They kill everything. They go out there and

1545
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: dive on compressors in two of water because there's just

1546
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: not the enforcement for it. And it's interesting because the

1547
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 1: from from my understanding of the Behaming Devins Force and whatever,

1548
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 1: they do have a fair number of boats. The problem

1549
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: is they don't have the funding for like fuel, so

1550
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: like we're always asking like, what where the hell are

1551
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: you guys at the dock, Like we don't have any

1552
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: money for fuel to go out and actually patrol, because

1553
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: you think in one day they could go and confiscate

1554
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: all the boats they would ever need for patrolling, you know,

1555
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: because there's all these big old boats coming over from

1556
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: all over that don't have I have not checked into

1557
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: the US or whatever, because you gotta check in and

1558
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: do customs in immigration, pay your your um you know,

1559
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: entry fees, and get your licenses before you can go

1560
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: and do anything. You're not allowed to take anything until

1561
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: you've landed in the Bahamas and done that. And people

1562
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: do day trips that come over here and they hammer

1563
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: the place and they run back so famous pla man.

1564
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: It's it's really unfortunate coming from Miami. Yeah, there's just

1565
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: not enforcement. They just don't have the money for fuel.

1566
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: It's not allocated for it, unfortunately. And hopefully that changes

1567
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: here in the next ten years as they you know,

1568
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: just make it better. Let's talk about whole hunting for

1569
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: a minute. We've covered various aspects of of of spear fishing,

1570
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: but we haven't talked about whole hunting for big grouper.

1571
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: It would be I could see how someone would look

1572
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: and think that it was like naughty because someone made

1573
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: the comment about shooting fish in a barrel. Explain the

1574
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: basic like why are the rules different underwater in what way? Explain?

1575
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: How explain how you go a whole hunting for grouper um,

1576
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: So a grouper and most of these reef fish that

1577
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: we're hunting there on the reef, so somewhere is going

1578
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: to be there at home, and they live in holes.

1579
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: They live in hole, so you're eventually gonna go in

1580
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: a hole. So like as kids and growing up, and

1581
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, until about fifteen years ago, I'd never

1582
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: really used a light except for lobsters. And you know,

1583
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, you said that to be handful of times

1584
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: about lights. You're like, if we'd have had these lights

1585
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 1: and we were kids, dude, have been a whole different programs. Huge.

1586
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: So like you know, we you know, would follow a

1587
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: group when we were kids, and you go in a

1588
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 1: hole and you look in there and just black. You're like,

1589
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's go find something else. Yeah, let me

1590
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,600
Speaker 1: let me spend a couple seconds on these holes. It

1591
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 1: might be that that um like when we're saying a hole,

1592
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it's I want you to people to understand like how

1593
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: like what exactly we're talking about. It might be that

1594
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you have a hole. I mean, there's all kinds of configurations,

1595
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be unusual to find a hole that

1596
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: would be big enough for you to get your head

1597
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: and shoulders into the mouth. I mean, it's like a

1598
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: hole in the rocks. They're a little cave opening. You

1599
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: could get your head and shoulders into it or not.

1600
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: Or it might be that you can just look under

1601
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: it and you couldn't get any party you in there,

1602
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: but you shine a light in there, you realize you're

1603
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: looking into the space that could be the size of

1604
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: a five gallon bucket. It could be the size of

1605
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: a household refrigerator in these cavities, and then and then

1606
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: off of that is all these other little pockets and

1607
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: ledges and holes like a coffee can, and that like

1608
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: a hole the diameter of a coffee can that goes

1609
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: back in three ft and you wonder how the hell

1610
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: that form? Right, But like like holes of all makes

1611
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: and sizes Swiss cheese. A good way to think of it,

1612
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,879
Speaker 1: A good way to describe it so people can visualize

1613
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: it is think of your house. Then think of five

1614
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: of your friends houses. All of them are shaped differently.

1615
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: You think about being able to come through the front door,

1616
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: walk into the first room, then go into a hallway,

1617
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: then it opens up into another's, then there's a bathroom,

1618
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: and there's all these different spaces and they turn and

1619
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: all that, and they got upstairs and downstairs, and that's

1620
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: how it is. So you shrunk a house down to

1621
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: the size of a car, that would be like a

1622
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 1: grouper hole. And every single one is different. So there

1623
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 1: was one towards the end of the day yesterday were

1624
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: instead of like kind of prefering prepping you on it,

1625
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I was like, just go go look at it and

1626
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: tell me what you think the approach is for let's

1627
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: focus it on that fish for minute, because this fish

1628
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: had a this has had uncertain fate. Who you found

1629
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: the fish? Yeah, so you found it out and about

1630
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: doing his business. And I chased him man as fast

1631
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: as I could swim for probably two fifty yards. Yeah.

1632
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: When you take off after one, you're gone. Yeah. I

1633
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: can't Like a lot of times I can't find I

1634
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: like kick to try to look around, and I'll oh,

1635
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: ship there he is way over there. Yeah, you like

1636
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: stay on top of him. Yeah, So I haul asked

1637
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: after him because I know he's going to a hole

1638
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and that one had the choice of heading to the

1639
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: right and going out off the drop off and going

1640
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 1: into a hundred foot of water and it's but instead

1641
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: he turned and went shallow, so he actually went in

1642
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: to about thirty water. So I followed him. He went

1643
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: a hole, and looking at the hole, I could tell

1644
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: by the way it was swept out, you know, with

1645
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: sand and stuff, that was his spot. So I waited

1646
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: for you guys to come, and I knew it was

1647
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: like a twenty pound yellophin grouper. And I went down

1648
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: and put the light on him and put a camera

1649
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: in there to record actually in the hole while he

1650
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: was in there, and you can tell when you look

1651
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: in there on a hole like that, he's not leaving,

1652
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: like that's where he knows, the absolute safest place within

1653
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: whatever proximity, Like that's the spot. So the challenge with

1654
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: that hole is he had swept it out so that

1655
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 1: the entrance, which was like if you make if you

1656
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 1: make a circle with your arms right now towards your

1657
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: chest and kind of bring it in a little bit

1658
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: of it's kind of oblong shape, and you had to

1659
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: go down a little bit and then up into it,

1660
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Because he swept out the sand,

1661
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: you can't get a spear in there. If you put

1662
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: a spear in the whole, you're it's blow him, Yeah,

1663
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 1: because of the lip of the ledge is basically pushing

1664
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: your spear down, and you couldn't excavate anything to make

1665
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: room for the butt end of the spear because it

1666
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: was all just rock coral, hard coral. So you tried

1667
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: and you never even could get the angle, and so

1668
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, whoever wants to try it. Parent was

1669
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: giving me all kind of advice behind to do it.

1670
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I said, then you go do it, And I tried,

1671
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: and he got in there with his with his spear

1672
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: and got it all lined up. That notice that he

1673
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: had to get his body back out and take a

1674
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: blind shot, trying to configure the spirit at the angle

1675
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: of what you think it needs to be, because you

1676
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: can actually be up in the hole while you shoot.

1677
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: Then Cameron went back down. Who don't, don't steal all

1678
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: his glory here. So you pulled the trigger and you

1679
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: can hear I at least for me, it was one

1680
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: of the most satisfying noises ever, was to hear you

1681
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 1: hit solid rock that was rock, solid rock. So then

1682
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: you did not clear the lip. So of course we

1683
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: give shipped to parentesses surveys like all right, will you

1684
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: go catch him with your hands? Then I was like,

1685
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: all right, I think I can do it. So I

1686
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,480
Speaker 1: went down there and blocked the whole hole with my shoulders,

1687
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: put my head in there, and I had him like

1688
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 1: I had him in my hands multiple times in the hole.

1689
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: He just wouldn't open his mouth. The trick is to

1690
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: get him to bite you so that you can get

1691
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: your hands in his mouth and then you can get

1692
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: your hands in his gills and it's basically noodling, which

1693
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I've I've done plenty of times, but man, that was

1694
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 1: a noodle. Yeah. So I had a pretty good battle

1695
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: with him. And during this, you know, all of us

1696
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: mucking around down there, we had two sharks that had

1697
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: come up, and one of them just as I came

1698
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: to the surface after a noodle him and all that

1699
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: hell was breaking loose, was like right there at the

1700
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: mouth of the hole, and that grouper came out like,

1701
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, like a guy that had almost got knocked out.

1702
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: Here's the things, like nothing had actually happened to him,

1703
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: but he had just had the most harrowing he had

1704
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: had probably the most harrowing minutes he's ever had in

1705
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: his whole life. And the way that shark is like

1706
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: something is with that fish. What I mean, he had

1707
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: his number. Yeah, So the grouper just came out of

1708
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: the hole, and you know, it's like he's been in

1709
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: a dark room for forty five minutes. He walked out

1710
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: of the sunlight and right there is a six ft

1711
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: shark like, something's wrong with you. I couldn't believe with

1712
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 1: that shark recognized that. He's like, I don't know what

1713
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: it is, but you're not right. And man, they both

1714
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: took off like a bat out of hell and they

1715
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: were instantly gone. If I had to bet money, I

1716
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: think the group was not alive. I think so too,

1717
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: because here's what I think what happened to him. He's

1718
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 1: he can't go to his main hide out, and he's

1719
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna go into like he's got to know exactly where

1720
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 1: he's going. And if he goes into any place that

1721
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: we're a dead ends or there's another grouper, he's gonna pause.

1722
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: That dud's on him. Man. Yeah, bad for him. I

1723
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: think he survived. It would be surprised. The group was

1724
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: a tough fish, especially a shop on him. I can't

1725
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 1: believe that was wild to fit himself in a small

1726
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: little but you don't think he could fit him so

1727
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: and that I hope he's alive. That's something interesting to

1728
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: say for both the grouper and the shark. Like the

1729
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: fish are amazingly hardy. Like the grouper that uh that

1730
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: we got with Kimmy, that one had an old scar

1731
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: in it from where he had been shot and had

1732
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 1: ripped out, you know, and he had healed over and

1733
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 1: you actually pointed it out. Oh yeah, I mean he

1734
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: was playing it like the plane his day. Yeah, and

1735
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot of those big old warriors like that, they're

1736
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: going to have that. And then on the on the

1737
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum, the sharks, like how fast

1738
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: that shark went, Like we're always like yeah, you know,

1739
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: like look at the shark, or Al Roker said, you know,

1740
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: redirect the shark, you know, when they're coming at you

1741
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. Seeing how fast that shark goes, there is

1742
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: nothing you can do. If they want you, if they

1743
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: want to bite you, you're getting bit. There's no way

1744
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: to stop them. They're just so fast. I was really

1745
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: impressed by how fast that shark swam. I normally would

1746
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: would put money on the grouper, but seeing that shark

1747
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 1: just chase that grouper and just how much he gained

1748
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: on him, I would put my money on this shark.

1749
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: What a little more, what a morsel man, a big

1750
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 1: meal dude. And so let's let's talk about the let's

1751
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: come around on a whole hunt that went right. You

1752
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: saw him out mine in his own business. Yeah, Like,

1753
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you with me every time we go

1754
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 1: for groupers, because as soon as you and I jump

1755
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: in the water, the bubbles clear, we see one. Yeah,

1756
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: so we jumped in that spot and um. As soon

1757
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: as bubbles cleared, like, I kicked towards the reef and

1758
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: I saw a big one, like the biggest grouper we've

1759
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: seen the whole trip. And he started hauling butt um

1760
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: up the reef and I took off like about out

1761
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: of hell. Yeah. How far did he go before he

1762
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: went into his hole? Probably forty yards fifty yards um,

1763
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: And we're talking about we're talking about a forty pound fish. Yeah.

1764
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: And it's tough in that shallow stuff because you're like

1765
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,560
Speaker 1: your neck is so craned. Think about laying flat on

1766
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the floor on your stomach and having a crane to

1767
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: look in front of you along the floor. That's a

1768
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: weird position. And like in the shallows, they're like straight

1769
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: front of you. It's not like looking down, so they're

1770
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: already on the edge of visibility. So I'm hauling but

1771
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 1: after him, and he went up into a section of

1772
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: the reef that um Zach Brown and I actually found

1773
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: together um And in fact, I call that that spot.

1774
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 1: I think Zach Hole or Zach black or something Zack

1775
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: black black. Yeah. And he went in the same hole

1776
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: that Zach and I had gotten a big yellopin grouper

1777
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: in and I mean you said it was like the

1778
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: most happy you see me a long time. Like I

1779
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 1: was just like, yes, yes, because I knew the hole.

1780
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: And the only way to figure those holes out is

1781
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: to have an experience like we did yesterday. Is like

1782
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 1: you gotta just spend a ton of time in there

1783
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: and figure out I can get my body into this

1784
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: hole by twisting this way. Then I got to bring

1785
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: the pulse spirit in this way. But once they go

1786
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: in these dark holes where they think they're safe, for

1787
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: the most part, those groupers like to have an exit.

1788
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 1: That particular hole does not have an exit, but it

1789
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: has enough space in there that he can go in

1790
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: and turn around. So their m O is to go

1791
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 1: in those holes, go way back up in the dark,

1792
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 1: and just lay up against the back of it so

1793
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: that anybody looking in there is just going to think

1794
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: it's the back of the hole. Because their camouflage and

1795
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: their coloring they can change, you know, like a chameleon,

1796
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: they can change to match whatever they're doing. So when

1797
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: they're they're usually just jet black. So I went in

1798
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: there and looked with the light. Once kind of the

1799
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, the dust settled, and then we started having

1800
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,560
Speaker 1: to strategize like how how can we get in that

1801
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: hole with a spear short enough to get in the

1802
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: hole and then shoot him. Yeah, because you actually said,

1803
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 1: even though you knew that hole and you found that whole,

1804
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: you guys weren't successful because it was too small for

1805
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: zax body and it was a tricky hole. Like it

1806
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: was great, it was a wonderful opportunity. And of course

1807
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: having you put all those spotlights on the fish so

1808
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: we could see it was everything, because Steve and I

1809
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: couldn't even see it at first. But then trying to

1810
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: figure out because you really had to go deep into

1811
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: that hole because he was way in the back and

1812
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: and it's like a narrow little thing that's like just

1813
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: enough to fit my body. But trying to then figure

1814
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: out how to get a spear in there at the

1815
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: right angle and how to have it loaded in there,

1816
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: that was a lot. And for reference, the hole that

1817
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about was probably just wide enough that Steve

1818
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: or I or Kimmy's shoulders could get in, so we

1819
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: could sneak our body in there. But then you had

1820
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: to go easy six ft just you your feet are

1821
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: sticking out, just your feet are sticking out, so you're

1822
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: and it's not like it's straight down, so you're going

1823
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: probably down two ft and then immediately turning and going

1824
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: to the left five ft six ft and the fishes

1825
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: back there about nine he's way in there. So it's

1826
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: it's wild. It's like a weird like kind of side

1827
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 1: shaped chimney, and it's it's just it's weird to squeeze

1828
01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: yourself in this like twisted tunnel that's just enough to

1829
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: fit your body, knowing that there's no possible way when

1830
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 1: you're in all the way to your ankles and you

1831
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 1: know that you can't turn around. That's a weird feeling,

1832
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 1: really weird, because going backwards is not the easiest thing

1833
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: to And how and how many feet were you guys underwater?

1834
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: I was And this is on a breath, you know,

1835
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: on a single breath. So and this is one of

1836
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: the things that I love about the whole hunting is

1837
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: the strategy behind it because all of us are you know,

1838
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: we're students of whatever sport it is, you know, hunting, diving, fishing,

1839
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: and for each one of these situations, you have to

1840
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: draw on every experience you had leading up to that

1841
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: to make it happen. Because like general people would have

1842
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: like a big long pulse fore we've been using the

1843
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: whole time and be like this, it's not gonna happen.

1844
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 1: You just can't get the thing in there, or you

1845
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: know he's around the corner, blah blah blah, We're not

1846
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get it. Yea, we kicked around,

1847
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: harpooning it. Yeah, just pushing into him. So in my mind,

1848
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: and there's there's usually a way that you can figure

1849
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: it out. Um, it's just being patient, you know, because

1850
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: once you touch him that one time, he's gonna blow

1851
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: out of there. So making that first shot count and

1852
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: not just taking a pot shot is really important. What

1853
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you gotta wait for the sand to settle. It's got

1854
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 1: to be clear enough you can see him. You know.

1855
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: Steve was backing you out, and I think I told you,

1856
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, like if she starts getting stuck, you know,

1857
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: pull her out. Um. And I told Cammy, I was like,

1858
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 1: when you do go and shoot him, if you don't

1859
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: have the perfect shot, don't don't let it go. But

1860
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 1: when you do shoot him, just let go of everything.

1861
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: All you need to focus on is getting out of

1862
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: that hole because there's not enough space for both of

1863
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: you guys to be in that hole at the same

1864
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 1: time at the entrance because it's so narrow, and then

1865
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you've got a spear coming back at you too. So

1866
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: the danger factor in the complexity of all is is

1867
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: what makes it very challenging, very dangerous, and and you

1868
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,959
Speaker 1: know awesome as well. Yeah, I just want to illuminate

1869
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: the picture. It's like I was on the top watching

1870
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: this all go down. It's like multiple dives down from

1871
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 1: all of you, sometimes one of you, sometimes a couple

1872
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 1: of you guys two together, checking it out, seeing it

1873
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: coming back up, readjusting the plan, thinking of different, you know,

1874
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: ways to get him out. Who was going to do what,

1875
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: who was gonna you know. It was just kind of

1876
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 1: this battle plan unfolding as you'd go and lay eyes

1877
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: on him, or at one point maybe he was like

1878
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: further back in the hole you couldn't see him. I mean,

1879
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: it's just like your your team coming together to try

1880
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: to figure out whose job, who's doing what, how to

1881
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 1: get this and then to see it all come together

1882
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: from the surface was comple I mean it was insane

1883
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 1: to see, like Kimmy jam that spearing Steve was behind

1884
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: her went in and I mean immediately, like Camerin said,

1885
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: Cameron just looked me in the eye. I was like,

1886
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: after your spirit, do not even try to horse it out.

1887
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: Get out of there. You came up with a smile

1888
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: on your face. I knew, I knew I got him good.

1889
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, when he came up, was that on

1890
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: the work exactly? Who knew? You hit him solid fist

1891
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 1: camera on the way up, and then said, I said,

1892
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work. And then when he started

1893
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 1: talking to me, I just happened to put my face

1894
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: back in the water, and Steve was already going down

1895
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: there to retrieve it. I'm like, oh, Steve's already in it,

1896
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: so tell us from from your side, because I mean,

1897
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: I know, like, at least in my mind, I think

1898
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: that's the first time you realized how strong fish can be.

1899
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the first thing that surprised me

1900
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: is when I put my arm and I couldn't find

1901
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: the shaft and that thing's long. I was like, damn,

1902
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: that thing isn't there far. And I've actually reached up

1903
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: in there pretty good and got ahold of shaft and

1904
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 1: started to pull him. I was surprised that I could

1905
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 1: actually pull him a little bit, but then he come out.

1906
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Did he come out and head first? Tail man? I was,

1907
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I was, I had no idea that fishes that big

1908
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: Steve was whipped and it was just nothing. But like

1909
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: I just like I could see his just tail. No, no,

1910
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: he came out head first, but somehow that there was

1911
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: so much silt sediments ship and I just saw like

1912
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: what I thought, like a hall of it tail, you know,

1913
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: just tail. His tail is probably easily two hands fans

1914
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: like your hands, yeah, your hands easily. Oh wait, did

1915
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: we did we say how big this grouper was? Yeah,

1916
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: like I feel like forty pounds, Brandon feels like upper third.

1917
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: It was. It was like a man and they were

1918
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: getting dragged around in circles. He got me like, so

1919
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you got it coming out, and like what was kind

1920
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 1: of your plan? Like I'm just gonna take him the surface.

1921
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like, I don't know what

1922
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: I thought. I had to hurry because I thought if

1923
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: he just came out, so I kept taking if he

1924
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: comes out and just slims away with the whole kit

1925
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: and caboodle, which yeah, so I thought it was like

1926
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was like an essence of like and

1927
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: that's weary. And you know because if he came out

1928
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: and for all the serpent, he just like swam off

1929
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: after he just swam off. So I thought you had

1930
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: to kind of be like Johnny out the spot. I

1931
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: was gonna pull him out of the hole. I don't know,

1932
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: you guys are eyes hanging around making sure nothing bad

1933
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: happens to be so sure I got him out of

1934
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 1: the whole. Someone else to do something just from from

1935
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: as soon as I looked down. I was just trying

1936
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: to be helpful. You pull you pulled him out, and

1937
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: you're kind of facing the hole. You pulled him out,

1938
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: and in the video you can see he comes out

1939
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 1: like a bad comes to life and spins you around.

1940
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 1: I was crazy at least, and you had made a

1941
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: comment about you like the kind of fish where you

1942
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: gotta dig your heels in try to drag him out

1943
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: of the hole, which is hard with a fin on.

1944
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 1: But I actually when he went under that next ledge,

1945
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: I had like I was trying to brace myself like

1946
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna do a dead list. I was like

1947
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: getting set up for a dead list. And then once

1948
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: he was free of the hole, and Kimmy was down

1949
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: there and then I was like, holy ship, that fish

1950
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: is big. Man. It just seems like in that I

1951
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: don't know why, but like in that because most of

1952
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: fish are looking there aren't big. You know, you're looking

1953
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: at all kinds of fish, like you know, two three

1954
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 1: four pounds, I mean, just aw the reef fish. And

1955
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 1: I just didn't know that something like that was around

1956
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: when I went and looked at it, because you are

1957
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 1: looking at like there's like a portion of a fish

1958
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: when you put a light. Now you like, just look

1959
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: where the light is. I'm like, fish, I don't know.

1960
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 1: Hear what about this? He says, like thirty forty something

1961
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,440
Speaker 1: pounds When you're looking at in the cooler, what's its dimensions?

1962
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: It filled a YETI one, It's lips and tail are touching, yeah,

1963
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: and just fat and chubby in between those those big blacks. Um,

1964
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: we can always tell, like they're over thirty five when

1965
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: they get that big bottom jaw, Like you can see

1966
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: the big shoulders, but that big bottom jaw. As they

1967
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: get bigger, it just gets bigger and bigger, and you're like,

1968
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: that's a real one, you know. But less than that,

1969
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 1: I still think it's kind of not a juvenile I

1970
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 1: mean they're good fish, but that's a stud like that,

1971
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: a big one. You know. A thing I've learned from

1972
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 1: I think I'll learn from spear fisherman that I had

1973
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: to put together for like after a whole life of

1974
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: rod and reel and fish. Is that like grip Like

1975
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 1: that if you get your hand up in his throat,

1976
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: so your thumb is under one gill plate and your

1977
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: four fingers go on to the other guilt plate, and

1978
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: you're basically like grabbing his trachia. You're grabbing the base

1979
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 1: of his gills, pushing all of his gills together too,

1980
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: closing it. Man, you can manage a hell of a

1981
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: big fish like that, and it's so much easier to

1982
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: swim them and turn them by their head. You got them.

1983
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 1: You're thinking, you're they shut right down. You're not letting

1984
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 1: water go through their gills. They're like, oh jeez, I

1985
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: mean this is difference, Like it puts you in the

1986
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: driver's seat in a way, the holding his tail and ship.

1987
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: It just makes them that much more. I mean, that's

1988
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: how they're shaped to be hydrodynamic. So oh yeah, that

1989
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't believe the first time I did.

1990
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: I did it on a on a yellow tail and

1991
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: it was like he was just like very hard to man,

1992
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: it's wrapping all over, beat me inside of the head

1993
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: and I met you got him like that and he's

1994
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: just like okay, Uh, if you curious what all this

1995
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 1: looks like all the whole hunting parent as a camera,

1996
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 1: as a underwater cameraman, how would you rank coverage. It's

1997
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 1: one of those difficult things to shoot ever, because you

1998
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: guys are disappearing inside of a cave, and it does

1999
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: make it doesn't create certain complexities. It well, it's dark

2000
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 1: and you have a flashlight and they're silt everywhere. So honestly,

2001
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,799
Speaker 1: the camera rigs like we can barely get them inside

2002
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: the holes. UM. Having go pros and things rigged up

2003
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 1: in the cave like camera setting up is super helpful

2004
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: for us, UM because the grouper and stuff they just

2005
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: disappeared into the dark. So it's not the easiest thing

2006
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: to shoot. And one thing people forget is that the

2007
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: camera guys have to keep up with you athletes or divers,

2008
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 1: and uh, that's that's gonna be hard. Sometimes we have

2009
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: this great, great stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, if you were

2010
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: too great, like the footage that we've been getting recently.

2011
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's as good as it gets

2012
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: for the Bahamas UM, and there's a lot of team

2013
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: we're involved in that with you guys hunting, but also

2014
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: like Kimmy and and Cameron, I've been diving with them

2015
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: for almost a decade now. So when we're all diving

2016
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: together is the most fun for me because we don't

2017
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: even have conversations. We just look at each other and

2018
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: all of us know exactly what to do at all

2019
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: times in the water, and it's like this unspoken communication

2020
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 1: when we're hunting and filming, that's just like everything is seamless,

2021
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,639
Speaker 1: and creating with professionals and and getting it all on camera.

2022
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 1: It's just what we've created this past week is going

2023
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 1: to be one of those badass Bahamas shows I've ever seen.

2024
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it. That's not I'm talking about

2025
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 1: and they'll be able to see it where Kimmy on

2026
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: meat Eater YouTube. I think it's going to release in

2027
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: October and um yeah, I'm gonna have my own little

2028
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 1: series on meat Eater what other what other places are

2029
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,600
Speaker 1: on there? So this is our our travel episode. It

2030
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: is UM currently a four part series and so we

2031
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: have Maui my origins, um, and we have other places

2032
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: in Hawaii Big Island and this is the travel episode Bahamas. Yeah,

2033
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,759
Speaker 1: but paren Um and my husband Justin have been filming

2034
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 1: all the underwater stuff and I think it's just it's

2035
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 1: so damn cool to have like people who are not

2036
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: just really really good cameraman, but they're also they're also

2037
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 1: holding their breath with us. I don't think a lot

2038
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: of people understand that. And they're also just that their

2039
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 1: knowledge and understanding of spear fishing, Like like they're not

2040
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: just Okay, we're gonna work our cameras and then be done.

2041
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: Like any break they get, they're out there poking fish too.

2042
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: And that's what makes it so cool, is it? Like

2043
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: when we say it's teamwork, I mean it is such teamwork.

2044
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Half the times when we're diving, like it's even our

2045
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: camera guys like grunting or getting our attention to show

2046
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: us like a fish that we're not seeing and you

2047
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: guys are capturing it, but you're you're hunting it with us.

2048
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: And that's what I think like makes the filming of

2049
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing so fun. Definitely my heart. The problem

2050
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I have with the way they grunt when they see something.

2051
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: It first takes me five minutes figure out where they

2052
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: all are at because it never just like automatically occurs

2053
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 1: to me there behind me. I always start looking like

2054
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: in front of me because you're like underwater noise, it

2055
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 1: just no direction to it. But every time I hear

2056
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: him grunt and I start looking in front of me,

2057
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, the one place I know he's not is there,

2058
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: But I still like where is he? They'm like, oh,

2059
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: that's right somewhere behind when you got a fish or

2060
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: just what like, what are you talking about? Going idiot? Idiot,

2061
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: idiot right there? I only had grant you a few times,

2062
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 1: teams so much if we could talk underwater, little underwater chokboards,

2063
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 1: He's like, look to your right, there is a large

2064
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: hog fish staring at you. Cute cards. No, it was

2065
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: so cool is that you guys put each other on

2066
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: so many different fish species so you were able to experience,

2067
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 1: like what it was catching gellow jack, black grouper, a

2068
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: lot of you know, and just to to have that

2069
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: different experience with each species. And I love I love

2070
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: seeing the learning curve because I mean I said it yesterday,

2071
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: like Kimmy is arguably one of the best female and

2072
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 1: male spiritfish period in the world. Like she's phenomenal. She

2073
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: just has that way in the water. Um, but even

2074
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: still like nerves using different rig and you know, the

2075
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: water the first day, like you kind of worked out

2076
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 1: the kinks and same thing with Steve, you know, by

2077
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 1: the end of the trip. I mean we still made

2078
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: some mistakes, but night and day different than you know

2079
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 1: the first day, like your guys learning curves like this,

2080
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Like it was pretty incredible. That's the fun part. Okay, So,

2081
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: uh got one A couple of things left. One major thing. Uh,

2082
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: A conk is a large marine snail. What's a big conk? Way,

2083
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a few pounds, right, I've had something

2084
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: with the actual meat itself. Way is up to two pounds,

2085
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: all the meat itself and the whole damn shells weigh

2086
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: heavier than that, probably a foot long, and tastes real

2087
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 1: good paint and the as to clean. Oh but you don't.

2088
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: Let's I want to cover an oar thing. You don't

2089
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: like lobster anymore? You got burned out. You're like someone

2090
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: who gets the job at of ice cream play pretty

2091
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 1: much and they pretty eat an ice cream. I mean,

2092
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I'll still eat it, but I really lost a taste

2093
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: for it. Handled too many of them, seeing too much,

2094
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: smelled it, eating it too much. But you still like conk? Yeah,

2095
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: I love conk. It's not cleaning. Conk is not um

2096
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 1: intuitive count No, you like, Well, I'll back some, but

2097
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna clean. You're gonna clean one

2098
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 1: for us again. I think I told you to store.

2099
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell it again. The first time we tried

2100
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: to clean one one. We're in the southern yuk Tam

2101
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Peninsula and we were kind of camping in this old

2102
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 1: bombed out house. Was like the roof had burned off.

2103
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 1: It was sort of like just a structure and the

2104
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 1: windows were gone, but it had the window frames. And

2105
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: we had a rental car, and we took the bottle

2106
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 1: jack out of the rental car and we put the

2107
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: conk up against the top of the window frame and

2108
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: put the bottle jack on the bottom of the window frame,

2109
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: and put a two by four between the conk and

2110
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: the window frame, so it's like from going from it's

2111
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 1: like the window frame a bottle jack or two by

2112
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 1: four on top of the bottle jack. Then the conk

2113
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: sandwich between the two by four and the roof of

2114
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: the window frame of a house, and then start working

2115
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 1: the jack. There's a bottle jack didn't make that noise,

2116
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: but you get the noise. And then we'd like pick

2117
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 1: crush it and then pick all the chunks of shell

2118
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: and ship out of there and try to start out

2119
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 1: what was edible. And then one day we found where

2120
01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: someone had been cleaning some ages ago, and we're like,

2121
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: why do they all have that little hole? And then

2122
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: it began to occur how one breaks into a con

2123
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: But I still had really ever figured it out till now.

2124
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: I say, people completely destroyed the shell to get it out.

2125
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Take a big hama or sledge holm and just completely

2126
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: explode the shell and like you said, picked the pieces off. Okay,

2127
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna deal with that real quick. We gotta step

2128
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: outside the right because it's a messy business, all right,

2129
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: blocked up. So we got you got the conk in

2130
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: your hand, what's he wait? Two three pounds, three pounds,

2131
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: two pounds snail in your hand, and he can and

2132
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: he's he lookal and he comes to a point and

2133
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: those are like his growth rings. And you're gonna chisel

2134
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 1: into that snail shell where the end of his body

2135
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 1: curls all the way around. So we had a special hammer.

2136
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Is that made for that? Yeah? Actually it is. It's

2137
01:59:54,720 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 1: like imagine, um, it's like two I can't what the

2138
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,879
Speaker 1: blade is called, like a yeah, like two hatchet blades

2139
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 1: set at ninety degree angle. So one side's got a

2140
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 1: one side's got a vertical, and one side's got a

2141
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 1: horizontal depending on your stroke. Right, different strokes for different folks,

2142
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 1: that's right. So you're gonna take that, you're gonna bore

2143
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: into that shell. Yeah, So what you're gonna do is count.

2144
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I know they typically count up instead of counting down

2145
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 1: practically the same. So I'll count two up. So you

2146
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 1: stop from this one where it's more defined one two

2147
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: in between the second and the third. Well, how do

2148
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 1: you know where to start accounting? Yeah, that's immediate argument

2149
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: because you go to where it so the first role

2150
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: is well defined. But that's someone's preference, so that you'd count.

2151
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 1: He'd be the one count and you count that one

2152
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,240
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, that would be one that would be

2153
02:00:53,320 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: too okay, then bullshit with with but right, come come

2154
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 1: to from the sef you could get and that's a

2155
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: funny thing because I guarantee you would never get him up. No,

2156
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 1: because that's not technically that's not horns one too, and

2157
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: you break that, you get So this goes to show

2158
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 1: that it's it's almost by it's like common sense that

2159
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be where it's gonna be, you know, like

2160
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 1: that's where you gotta crack it. Yes and no. But

2161
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying like for us, like you look at it,

2162
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: that makes total sense. It's gonna be there. For me,

2163
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 1: it makes total sense, it's gonna be he you know

2164
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: what he said to me A handful of times he

2165
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: said to me something about how he was trained or

2166
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: how he was taught. He's got like a yeah, an

2167
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 1: allegiance to what I'm saying. Three four, five, seven, that's

2168
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 1: between the seventh and eight. Let's do it, guys. If

2169
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to count all the sorry, and how do

2170
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: you know where you're gonna whack it? I count the notches.

2171
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 1: So you go, you count too, not just one too.

2172
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: And it's in between the second and third, but you're

2173
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: you're counting the first match that has texture, Yes, the

2174
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: one really defined you know, defined, horny little growth ring, Yes,

2175
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 1: And you just count up too. In between the second

2176
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: and third is where you're going to crack them. And

2177
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: the goal is that you're going to break a little

2178
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: teeny hole in there and then sever his mooring because

2179
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: he's like curled inside there and just the muscles stuck

2180
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 1: to the shed itself. That's what it touches him. So

2181
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: he's only attached him one little spot inside there. You're

2182
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 1: not really cutting nothing off to say, detouch it. You

2183
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 1: just removing it. It, just trying it free pretty much,

2184
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: loosening his grip on his shell. Yes, got it, and

2185
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 1: that's it. What Yeah, there's a little whole third inch

2186
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: by an inch Now that's onny one though, I don't

2187
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 1: snakes a bendy dexter flame knife and air and you're

2188
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: just freeing up so the flexi blades billiam corn Huh

2189
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: To be honest, no, I prefer to use um but

2190
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: a knife. Yeah, And then you grab his foot, Wow,

2191
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: comes right out of there. You never guess. That's just

2192
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 1: slides right out. He's got a little dinosaur claw for

2193
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:34,480
Speaker 1: a hook. Orange section of black, second brown section in

2194
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 1: a big old white section. So what all this is edible?

2195
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 1: All of it really and truthfully all of it is

2196
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: edible besides the spur, the gut and the mouth dies

2197
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 1: and everything. It looks like a little alien. And then

2198
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: you gotta get the rubbery skin off there. You don't

2199
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 1: have to. You don't have to, like yments, No, mony,

2200
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 1: they won't cut it off, really, the skin and everything.

2201
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 1: So Steve cut it off for us because we're not behaving.

2202
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean that probably we had you all out, and yeah,

2203
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: let's probably have a different point of view on it.

2204
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 1: If it's got the skin on, people say it makes

2205
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: it tough all but not really. So what come out

2206
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: of there is like a big I mean what your

2207
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: leftover was, I would say you left over like a

2208
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 1: big Hamburger patty of meat pretty much. Yes, And so Steve,

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02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 1: what's your hot tip take away from con cleaning? Don't

2210
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: use a bottle jack? Okay, So one last thing, speaking

2211
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,840
Speaker 1: of conk. The other day we had this is where

2212
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 1: your listeners get involved. The other day we had h

2213
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 1: conk fritters at a restaurant. That is just it's crazy.

2214
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 1: I gues stop thinking about the guy in the restaurant.

2215
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 1: It's amazing. There's a guy, his family has been on

2216
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 1: this island for out and how long hundred fifty years

2217
02:04:57,160 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 1: something crazy. He lives alone for the most part, lives

2218
02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:06,400
Speaker 1: alone on an island, collects rain water and has a

2219
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 1: brackish water well, completely off the grid, and if all things,

2220
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: he runs a restaurant that he used to run with

2221
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: his mother who grew up there. His siblings were like

2222
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: born on the island. He likes to point out that

2223
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was born in a hospital and take

2224
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 1: him back to the island. Family dates back over a

2225
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 1: century and like the stude named Chester has his restaurant

2226
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 1: and you need to call and tell him you're coming,

2227
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 1: and you pull a boat up. I mean he's many

2228
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 1: miles from the nearest road. You pull a boat up

2229
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: and he makes fried fish count fritters and during season

2230
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 1: he cooks you lobster. Cameron's friends with him, and it's

2231
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 1: like it's not it's hard to explain the like, nohemer

2232
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 1: you think of a restaurant, you think of someone like

2233
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 1: he's just like he's just trying to get by in

2234
02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 1: a way that makes sense to him, right and provide

2235
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: like like a really nice service. It's like it's like

2236
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: a restaurant, but it's that no one's getting rich at

2237
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 1: this restaurant. It's just like he like lives the way

2238
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:11,200
Speaker 1: that makes sense to him and the way he's been

2239
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,839
Speaker 1: there and is a restaurant. It brings about a tremendous

2240
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 1: amount of goodwill. You call him, you come in, you

2241
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 1: park your boat, you walk up, and he makes crying

2242
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 1: fritters and fried fish and sells beer. It's a great

2243
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: place and like slamming rump. But for him to get

2244
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:29,280
Speaker 1: fuel is a real pain in the assid and Cameron

2245
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: can explain the fuel situation. So he had he's always

2246
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 1: run on generator. It's not like there's power out there.

2247
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: And I think in a thirty mile stretch there might

2248
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: be five other people that live like he's just right

2249
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 1: smack in the middle of no man's land. So he's

2250
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 1: got a diesel generator that he had for the last

2251
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 1: ten years or whatever that died just after this past hurricane.

2252
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,560
Speaker 1: So about ten miles away on another island, we had

2253
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 1: heard that there was another generator that had been up

2254
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 1: in the woods in the bush for like fifteen years

2255
02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: left like and the guy who owns that island said,

2256
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:04,640
Speaker 1: you guys can have that if you want. So him

2257
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: and two other guys went and got that old generator

2258
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 1: has just been overgrown or whatever. Put it on a

2259
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 1: boat and drug it back to the island, and we

2260
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: drug it up the hill and put it back in there,

2261
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: and somehow a mechanic got it going after you know,

2262
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 1: a week. So now he's got this dilapidated old generator,

2263
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 1: and to get fuel for that, he's got to get

2264
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 1: in his boat and go fifteen miles get deesel, put

2265
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 1: it in jerry cans and bring it back to that

2266
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 1: and hump it up the hill and refill that generator constantly.

2267
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: So just before COVID, I got a guy to he

2268
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 1: then got weirdly, he got shut down for nine months

2269
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 1: during talk about brutal, like a place that would no

2270
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: one even know about. He's like restaurants gotta showed down.

2271
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,520
Speaker 1: I closed so weird, Like I would have been like,

2272
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep staying open because we're gonna know

2273
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 1: who's gonna know. Um. So he's always he's always said,

2274
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you can get me a generator, you know,

2275
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: that'd be great. So a while back I went there

2276
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 1: and looked in the generator shed man, there's like five

2277
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 1: generators in there, Like a diesel generator is just not

2278
02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:11,240
Speaker 1: the way to go. They're just gonna keep dying. Yeah,

2279
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 1: they die and just live there, and he's gonna moves

2280
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 1: over and put another one in him. So I was like,

2281
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: why not do solar? You know? So I was like,

2282
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 1: started looking into getting quotes for solar. Howd a guy

2283
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 1: go out there and figure out the amount of power

2284
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:26,280
Speaker 1: he needed and give us a quote and a game

2285
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 1: plan for doing solar. And that's where I got Steve involved,

2286
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,320
Speaker 1: you know. I said, you know, if if you can

2287
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 1: give back anything for this trip, it would be to

2288
02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:39,320
Speaker 1: help him, to get him solar, just because he has

2289
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 1: done such a service for everyone that has ever visited

2290
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 1: that place will never forget it. That's one of the

2291
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: coolest spots on the planet. And just to take one

2292
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 1: aspect of us giving back to him and this worldwide

2293
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:57,200
Speaker 1: community that loves that place so much and putting solar

2294
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 1: that's going to help the environment and help that island.

2295
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I would love to do that. And we are rolling

2296
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: right now. We're with Chester. Can you introduce yourself and

2297
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 1: where we are right now? All I'm chest Advil. Yeah,

2298
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 1: it flows kunk Shack and Little Habba and the Barry Islands,

2299
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 1: Bahamas and how big is this island that we're standing

2300
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: on and who inhabits it? The island is about two

2301
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:28,240
Speaker 1: and a half miles long and about a quarter mile wide.

2302
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 1: Current population. Current population right now is too well, usually

2303
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 1: there's one. So years ago, I was down here in

2304
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 1: the Bahamas and we've been fishing up in the Northern

2305
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Barres Islands. We're running back down south and we ran

2306
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: past this island and I was like, man, who lives

2307
02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:51,440
Speaker 1: on that island? There's like two little houses, and a

2308
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:55,960
Speaker 1: buddy's like, man, that's that restaurant. It's called Flows. It's like, well,

2309
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 1: how in the heck do they get anything there? But

2310
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 1: let's go check. We gotta go check this out. So

2311
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 1: we pull in running ground a couple of times trying

2312
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 1: to get in here, and finally get in here to

2313
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 1: the dock and walk up and I was like, hey,

2314
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 1: can we have lunch? Chester was like, do you have

2315
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 1: lunch tomorrow? And just segued into the next fifteen years

2316
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 1: of getting a no Chester and just what he has

2317
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 1: to go through day to day to live on an

2318
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 1: island by himself and run a restaurant which is arguably

2319
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 1: the best kunk and fresh fish, fried fish I've ever

2320
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 1: had my life anywhere in the world. It's so good,

2321
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:36,800
Speaker 1: so good. Thank you very much for that game. I mean,

2322
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: it's gotta be wild for you seeing this every day.

2323
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 1: But you know every little bit of history because your

2324
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 1: family has been here for more than a hundred years. Yeah,

2325
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 1: what basically what got me started with this? When I

2326
02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:54,880
Speaker 1: was in school, My mom told me that this was

2327
02:10:55,080 --> 02:11:00,080
Speaker 1: our father's dream before you pass So in school I

2328
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 1: used to think about it all the time. And what

2329
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm doing here right now is just trying to fulfill

2330
02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 1: his dream because he's not here, So I took it

2331
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 1: upon myself to make it my dream. And what's your

2332
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 1: family's history here? You're telling me about your great or

2333
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 1: great great grandmother. Her name was Agnes Johnson. I think

2334
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: she was born in eighteen fourteen, if I'm not mistaken,

2335
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 1: And she was the founder of this island, Little Harbor

2336
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 1: under the keys around it, and it's been in our

2337
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:42,440
Speaker 1: family ever since. It's generation property. You said she used

2338
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: to what did she used to do on this island.

2339
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 1: She used to cook for the pirates before she bought

2340
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 1: this island. She did Insistent Key, which is opposite Great Harbor,

2341
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,720
Speaker 1: and she's to cook for the pirates, and they used

2342
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 1: to pay and go. She was a slave and that's

2343
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 1: why she made her fortune. And she overheard the pirates

2344
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: talking about purchasing the harbor, so when they went out

2345
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 1: to see she went in asa and purchase it. And

2346
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,400
Speaker 1: when they came back and they met her. Yeah, that's

2347
02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 1: how she got this island. How did that go over

2348
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 1: the pirates, Well, they didn't have a choice in about it.

2349
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 1: She already paid for it. That's pretty wild. And they

2350
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 1: when you as soon as you pull up here, you

2351
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:34,840
Speaker 1: see generations and generation pile the biggest colle pile kunk

2352
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 1: shells I've ever seen. You're looking at over as a conkin.

2353
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's literally close to a million conk. Well,

2354
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:45,640
Speaker 1: what you got to look at, what you're looking at

2355
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: is only half or what used to be here because

2356
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 1: the shell it rots after a while and it turns

2357
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: into sign. Hm. That's why you're saying so pretty good

2358
02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: from all that conk. I guess. So, so you run

2359
02:13:00,680 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 1: a restaurant, you live on this island. There are needs

2360
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,920
Speaker 1: for power electricity to keep things running. What's what's your

2361
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: current situation with this now? Well, right now, I'm just

2362
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 1: skating on nice right now. That's what's going on with

2363
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 1: me right now, and you know I need help. If

2364
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 1: whoever can help me, I'd appreciate it very much. What's

2365
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:28,120
Speaker 1: the what's the back story for the The major challenge

2366
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:31,560
Speaker 1: here is Chester lives fifteen miles from any other civilization,

2367
02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 1: So to get even fuel for the generator, he's got

2368
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 1: to go down getting his boat if the weather allows,

2369
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:42,160
Speaker 1: and then run another fifteen miles up to gas cans up,

2370
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,520
Speaker 1: get him filled with diesel, hop back in the boat,

2371
02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:46,800
Speaker 1: run back here, and then hump him up this hill

2372
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,360
Speaker 1: and then back another hundred fifty yards back into the

2373
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 1: bush to a generator that is probably thirty or forty

2374
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 1: years old, you know, and it's been it's I mean,

2375
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: you're just hanging on by a thread keeping that thing running.

2376
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:04,440
Speaker 1: And how how hot was it today? About nine degrees?

2377
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 1: Having even a fan is helpful here, So you know,

2378
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:15,400
Speaker 1: having that generator there's a big deal. But I had

2379
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 1: had the idea just before COVID to try to get

2380
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 1: your solar. He's got a perfect piece of land here

2381
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of protected from you know, the hurricanes. There's

2382
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 1: a good spot to put the solar kind of out

2383
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:31,040
Speaker 1: of the way, Um, it's gonna save you know, moving

2384
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:36,040
Speaker 1: diesel and not having to rely on fossil fuels period um.

2385
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:39,280
Speaker 1: And just you know, you think about the things we

2386
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 1: do day to day just to survive, you know, at home,

2387
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 1: and how many people we have helping us. He doesn't

2388
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:51,320
Speaker 1: have anybody help him. He's just him. So you're having

2389
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 1: an off day, and you know it's the however many

2390
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:56,440
Speaker 1: how many how many days you run on diesel before

2391
02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:59,440
Speaker 1: you got to refill? Uh? Well, the tank I have

2392
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 1: is about uh about every three three days. I usually

2393
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:11,320
Speaker 1: put in about fifteen gallons roughly m So it's a

2394
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 1: lot of work. Yea, Let's get some solar on this island.

2395
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:21,080
Speaker 1: So personally, I couldn't fund it, and I wanted to

2396
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:23,280
Speaker 1: get some friends together to help do it. And everyone

2397
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,720
Speaker 1: I talked to had offered to help. But you know

2398
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:29,240
Speaker 1: Steve and talking to him, and you know, a group

2399
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,480
Speaker 1: of friends with here is like, let's do this, you know,

2400
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 1: let's really help him out. We can use our reach,

2401
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 1: you know to help a good guy in a cool place,

2402
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to keep you doing what

2403
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:42,360
Speaker 1: you're doing so more people can come and enjoy this.

2404
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:45,560
Speaker 1: And this is there's not enough places like this on

2405
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 1: the planet with people like you. We spent we spent

2406
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 1: um number of hours over a couple of days here

2407
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:57,560
Speaker 1: at Chester's and this was the base camp for part

2408
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 1: of the film shoot. He fed us from the restaurant.

2409
02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:06,120
Speaker 1: It was a scene for Um, we used his kitchen

2410
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:09,000
Speaker 1: and his restaurant for a cooking scene for the show.

2411
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, I mean it's something that anyone who's

2412
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 1: in this area like needs to come and experience. It

2413
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:21,640
Speaker 1: is something that you really I can't imagine finding anywhere else. Um.

2414
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:24,640
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of preservation of history and and

2415
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 1: continuing that. Yes, you can say that again. He also

2416
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:35,040
Speaker 1: makes a slam and rum punch by it as flows

2417
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 1: famous rum punch flows cock check right flows called check Solar. Yeah. Um,

2418
02:16:42,320 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 1: that's that's what I've put together on camer instead of

2419
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 1: a goal fund me to help. He might be sitting

2420
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 1: there thinking like, um, why would I give a shit

2421
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:54,880
Speaker 1: about this place? I don't think I can't explain to you.

2422
02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 1: It's a cool place. It's a really cool project. He's

2423
02:16:58,240 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 1: a great guy, that's a nice guy, and it's like

2424
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:04,600
Speaker 1: it'd just be fun to to do that. I feel like,

2425
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like a lot of listeners would

2426
02:17:06,520 --> 02:17:08,480
Speaker 1: kick in a few bucks. Yeah, I'm gonna kick in

2427
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: some money. Yeah, any I mean anything helps, you know,

2428
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,960
Speaker 1: And if it takes us five years, you know, to

2429
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 1: do it, you think about how many thousands and thousands

2430
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 1: of gallons of diesel burned that that'll save, you know,

2431
02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:22,959
Speaker 1: in one of the most pristine spots in the world.

2432
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 1: To be able to do it solar and to take that,

2433
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, out of it, those fossil fuels out of it,

2434
02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 1: would be pretty amazing. It's just such a nice and

2435
02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:33,480
Speaker 1: usual guy. You just want that place and what he's

2436
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 1: doing to exist in this world. I mean he has,

2437
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:39,200
Speaker 1: like you said, over hunt, over a century of history there.

2438
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:41,520
Speaker 1: He said to himself, like I'm never leaving this island.

2439
02:17:41,600 --> 02:17:43,240
Speaker 1: That's what he wants to do for the rest of

2440
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 1: his life. But it's like not exactly like fitted for

2441
02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:50,440
Speaker 1: today's world, you know, and so but to me, it's

2442
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:53,720
Speaker 1: like those are the little gems, a little splashes of

2443
02:17:53,879 --> 02:17:57,360
Speaker 1: like awesome unique diversity that makes the world that much

2444
02:17:57,400 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 1: more interesting. So if we all could help it out

2445
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:04,040
Speaker 1: just so it can exist, Like what a better place

2446
02:18:04,720 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 1: history floes conk Shack Solar, Yeah, you can have it

2447
02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 1: all set up. Ye, flows conk shack solar. One thing

2448
02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:15,039
Speaker 1: he mentioned as it being his dad's dream. I feel

2449
02:18:15,040 --> 02:18:17,240
Speaker 1: like it was like a couple of generations back. Was

2450
02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 1: it Cam his great great great great grandmother Flow she uh.

2451
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:28,120
Speaker 1: He told us a story about how she used to

2452
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: serve food on that island to the pirates. She was

2453
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:37,280
Speaker 1: she was born a slave, but yeah, but got into

2454
02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:39,640
Speaker 1: feeding the pirates when they would come in and would

2455
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 1: get collect goals. Made a little fortune off of that

2456
02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:45,840
Speaker 1: and not to stand them on the island for a while.

2457
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:49,000
Speaker 1: And had heard the pirates like that island. So when

2458
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:51,200
Speaker 1: the pirates went out to do their thing, she went

2459
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 1: to Nassau and bought the island. So they were a

2460
02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 1: little bitter about that, That's what I asked. I was like,

2461
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 1: so what did the pirates do? They must have been passed.

2462
02:19:00,560 --> 02:19:04,200
Speaker 1: So let's keep that history up into the president. It's fun.

2463
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:06,760
Speaker 1: It's a fun project. We'll talk more about it. You're

2464
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:08,280
Speaker 1: also gonna put a get We also got a little

2465
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:11,440
Speaker 1: video of showing the place. Sweet. Maybe sweet people could,

2466
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:12,960
Speaker 1: like I said, kick in a couple of bucks and

2467
02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 1: we'll pull that whole thing together to be fun. Yeah,

2468
02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 1: it's where it's where Kimmy did her cooking second or

2469
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:19,199
Speaker 1: the three of us, I should say, did our cooking

2470
02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:23,560
Speaker 1: segment um for her show in the series. And Chester's

2471
02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:26,440
Speaker 1: on it, Chesters on it all right, not to be

2472
02:19:26,480 --> 02:19:32,400
Speaker 1: confused the Chester the divester different, Chester, polygraph Chester, yeah

2473
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:37,160
Speaker 1: line Chester al right, everybuddy, thanks a lot,