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Speaker 1: guys were joined today by a good friend of mine. Hello,
Speaker 1: we have Louise from Susia b K. Right now, are
Speaker 1: are y'all expanding? We're trying to grow. We're trying to
Speaker 1: evolve me. We're trying to to to make sure that
Speaker 1: our name represents that evolution. I love that. Now y'all know,
Speaker 1: Susie has comprised with three people, myself, my fiance, Organa,
Speaker 1: and our business partner. Gecko Jones is amazing man. Gecko
Speaker 1: Gecko is um. He's something else. He's a powerhouse. He
Speaker 1: does he does a production, he does a lot of
Speaker 1: He's also the soundtrack. He's a DJ. A lot of
Speaker 1: our parties, Um, Susi the space or Susia the brand,
Speaker 1: what su is? It's a lifestyle. Can we get into
Speaker 1: Susia because some of us su like what it means?
Speaker 1: What Susia? Alright, So Susia originally was a party I
Speaker 1: did with my homegirl DJ Juicy What's Up Juicy years
Speaker 1: ago at madame x And it came up because Uh,
Speaker 1: I like the words. She liked the word. We we
Speaker 1: knew what it meant, and it was that was basically it.
Speaker 1: But when we um started up all over again, right,
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, we're doing these parties. And I
Speaker 1: think Susia is a dope fit because it is the
Speaker 1: feminine derivative of dirty you know really yeah, dirty girl.
Speaker 1: Oh I just thought it was dirty. It's dirty girl.
Speaker 1: Susio is dirty guy. Susio is dirty guy. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what it's for me, It's kind of like like
Speaker 1: anti patriarchy type ship. I like Susia because, um, it
Speaker 1: signifies in my mind a woman that is behaving like
Speaker 1: a man. And if that's the case, then all the
Speaker 1: women in my life are Susiasm and I love that
Speaker 1: and I appreciate and respect that, and I encourage them
Speaker 1: that's way to thinking that way. That's the only way
Speaker 1: to think of it for me, you know, especially being
Speaker 1: Latino and what mean Wait is that where you're from?
Speaker 1: From Nicarawa up. So let's about is it brand? Is
Speaker 1: it a space? Is it like a physical It's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a physical space and it's a brand. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's a secret location in Bushwick. It's a speak easy
Speaker 1: kind of vibe. Uh. It's a safe space that was
Speaker 1: created with the intent to be um a safe space
Speaker 1: for black and brown woman and for an l g
Speaker 1: B t q I family. Can I tell the audience
Speaker 1: now that sounds cute? Can I tell the audience y'all?
Speaker 1: This is the space that I go in Brooklyn when
Speaker 1: I've spoke on the last two years about finding a
Speaker 1: black lifestyle club, which was actually introduced to me by Marge.
Speaker 1: And then let me ask the question that we've heard
Speaker 1: about it. Yes, I want to ask you if it's
Speaker 1: a speake easy, if it was meant to be private,
Speaker 1: why promote the space and how do you keep yourself
Speaker 1: safe from I would say this, I would say this, Well, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's actually that's actually a great question, because the whole
Speaker 1: point of what we're doing is to make it accessible
Speaker 1: for black and brown humans to be in safe spaces,
Speaker 1: in places where they could explore the sensuality and sexuality
Speaker 1: without judgment. The reason it's important to have them in
Speaker 1: the blacks basis because we have different hangups, we have
Speaker 1: different cultural things going on. Even with the words Susia itself,
Speaker 1: you know, RUPs people the wrong way all the time.
Speaker 1: Why yeah, uh not nothing, especially older women they're like
Speaker 1: Susie like that. And then when I talked to him
Speaker 1: about it, it's a whole flip. You know, why are
Speaker 1: we promoting it. We're promoting a lifestyle acceptance, and we're
Speaker 1: promoting black and brown people taking control of the narrative.
Speaker 1: It would be your goal for some that you just
Speaker 1: said that that's actually well, the reason I have said
Speaker 1: regarding the word whore and regarding the word slut like
Speaker 1: and having and having the way people are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's a bad word, the way that you
Speaker 1: reclaimed it and explained it in a way to where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, actually, why is it a bad word?
Speaker 1: You can make it an empowering word. You can make
Speaker 1: it mean whatever you wanted to meet. What's the goal
Speaker 1: for it to? Like? What? What? What could you ultimately? Um,
Speaker 1: there are several goals, you know, we have goals as
Speaker 1: as a unit. Susia NYC also does dance parties. That's
Speaker 1: the thing about it. We do dance parties in our
Speaker 1: space that it's actually what I thought it was like,
Speaker 1: it's both to check it out. It made me mad
Speaker 1: that but I got brought I got brought to the
Speaker 1: play party first day. Let me say I got brought
Speaker 1: to the play party first day. Did not know about
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, we didn't know friend.
Speaker 1: He knew my my ex, he's my example, so he
Speaker 1: knew him. So we went to the play party and
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh, let's go to the Sunday party,
Speaker 1: same spot. So I get drunk as fun, thinking oh
Speaker 1: well we can go downstairs and funk now, and they're
Speaker 1: like so actually no today, there's no Yeah, it's got
Speaker 1: that type of party, and I was like shit, but
Speaker 1: literally it just makes you that comfortable. Everyone there is
Speaker 1: like great looking. But yeah, I didn't know about the
Speaker 1: I learned about the play party, then the party party.
Speaker 1: It's it's Susy A play which is his name speaks
Speaker 1: for self. We do our sex positive events. We also
Speaker 1: do our mixers um for people are interested. We do
Speaker 1: game nights. We do workshops built around people's questions are.
Speaker 1: One of our workshops where I really enjoyed was how
Speaker 1: to identify toxic masculinity in the play space. You know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk about it. You acknowledge that also sometimes women
Speaker 1: carry those traits. You teach people about enthusiastic consent. You
Speaker 1: let him know, um, when it's time to reset, you
Speaker 1: let him know. It's particular men or people who exhibit
Speaker 1: those uh toxicities that other bodies are not there for
Speaker 1: their pleasure. You know, you're not there to go get
Speaker 1: a nut. You're there to be part of a community,
Speaker 1: and you're there to build and do something a little better.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm always maybe that was Mandy on
Speaker 1: that Sunday. They're not, but I make sure everybody can.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to make I think
Speaker 1: Mandy being there was was was really dope because you
Speaker 1: you bring that energy and it was dope and it
Speaker 1: was for me my power. I didn't hi power high.
Speaker 1: I like high power, not pol energy. She's giving however, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, hi, that's my brand, so that that's dope.
Speaker 1: Talking about the panels um something I had in the
Speaker 1: main questions that I'm curious about, of course, to get
Speaker 1: off the top. So I've done some like coverage on
Speaker 1: like sex clubs and will makes them legal. But I
Speaker 1: realize everybody says something different, and I think it's dope
Speaker 1: to understand and put it at the top. How is
Speaker 1: doing a play party legal in your space? How is
Speaker 1: it being well, damn grow with the cops that there
Speaker 1: are no laws against people having sex, a group sex,
Speaker 1: having sex, having b D s M. Why do people
Speaker 1: are so scared to do it? Then because there aren't
Speaker 1: laws around because people are afraid of sex. It's actually
Speaker 1: considered then a private public space. So your space is private. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a private space, but you're having sex, is what?
Speaker 1: Because it's not that someone's you know, public sex would
Speaker 1: be like I'm thinking outside now, we're we're we're in
Speaker 1: a safe space. That's true. I'm in the t Fridays
Speaker 1: parking lot once. That's fun. That's definitely public sex. That's fun.
Speaker 1: Which I was eighteen. Shut up, Wait, neither of us
Speaker 1: had an apartment because now it would be catch So
Speaker 1: you did you have any like So I'm gonna assume
Speaker 1: you started with the dance party, did you? Uh No,
Speaker 1: We opened up the space with Incentive being a play party.
Speaker 1: We were used like scared of when you started it
Speaker 1: because we were my my, my fiance and I put
Speaker 1: a lot of years and are you know shout out
Speaker 1: to Pam and X our our primary couple should We
Speaker 1: started building this community a few years ago and then
Speaker 1: other people started adding on to it. My biggest fear
Speaker 1: was is and always will be exposing the people I
Speaker 1: love and care for two elements that aren't cool, and
Speaker 1: also exposing people because that's that space. Even though to
Speaker 1: save the space and it may not be for somebody
Speaker 1: who's hiding trauma, doesn't really know what's going on, and
Speaker 1: and the naked body will trigger them. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, that can happen, but luckily with
Speaker 1: spaces like this, it does the opposite and it opens
Speaker 1: people up. It's part Luis. I wanted you and your
Speaker 1: fiance to be a part of my Memorial Day party.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it because the environment that you create,
Speaker 1: so for anyone that was able to attend, Dear Memorial
Speaker 1: Day weekend, I threw a party, a private party. After
Speaker 1: the FED dinner. I spoke with T and Mal and
Speaker 1: everybody so much the the stress and anxiety that I
Speaker 1: had building up to that play party. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening or like, y'all should do more,
Speaker 1: where's a horrible one coming? And that was my first time.
Speaker 1: You don't know how anxious I was in not wanting
Speaker 1: to be someone that triggered someone to have a negative experience,
Speaker 1: and not not not to be a part of someone
Speaker 1: experiencing something that traumatic for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: And those type of parties, which is why the vetting
Speaker 1: process was so crazy, which is why normally a lot
Speaker 1: of these these parties are hard to get into because
Speaker 1: the vetting is is you gotta know, you gotta know somebody,
Speaker 1: you gotta catch a vibe first. But that party, when
Speaker 1: I threw it, we at one point mails very um ambitious.
Speaker 1: It wanted to have like, well, maybe we could have
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty people in year. I said, no way,
Speaker 1: I want to cap it. The amount of people even
Speaker 1: allowed to go into the space. It was very important
Speaker 1: that we didn't. Hey, we create created an environment with rules.
Speaker 1: But be even with rules, people break them. People also
Speaker 1: don't understand boundaries. People don't understand, um, the consent and
Speaker 1: what is what do you always say enthusiastic consent? And
Speaker 1: before we get into the layers of this, before we
Speaker 1: get into our vanilla ship, I wanted him a part
Speaker 1: of it because you've had the best consent speeches that
Speaker 1: I have partakes in. I've I've brought hell of people
Speaker 1: to your spot. Now I'm a fucking chaperone. Now, so
Speaker 1: the sex clubs in Bushwick, But could you just give
Speaker 1: us I'm gonna cueue you up. What would an enthusiastic
Speaker 1: consent speech sound like if I came into Susia play
Speaker 1: for the first time. First, I'm a little overdressed, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta got it. You would have to take off
Speaker 1: some clothes. No, not really, a son. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta earn. I think any part of you you definitely
Speaker 1: gotta earn that you're over addressed for the conste speech.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking when you said that, I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: dick swing keeping down with box. We're about to talk.
Speaker 1: This is welcome, guys. I'm more personality forward. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: so we're in the circle of people. Hey, guys, how's
Speaker 1: everybody doing tonight? I want to welcome you to our space,
Speaker 1: all right. I know it takes a lot of bravery
Speaker 1: to be in here, and for that alone, I want
Speaker 1: to thank each and every one of you for being
Speaker 1: inside here and for taking the time to come inside
Speaker 1: here and be one with everybody. Now. I don't want
Speaker 1: anyone at all to feel pressure to do anything, because
Speaker 1: the main thing is that you're here. Now, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about enthusiastic consent, what it looks like, how it feels,
Speaker 1: and what it is. Enthusiastic consent number one is the
Speaker 1: bedrock of our community. Enthusiastic consent is when you approach
Speaker 1: someone and you maybe want to touch their knee as
Speaker 1: you're talk and then understand, we're all vulnerable. We're all
Speaker 1: the different states of vulnerability right now, so you have
Speaker 1: to ask, do you mind if I touch your knee
Speaker 1: while I talk to you? Some people are handsy, but
Speaker 1: it's different when you're naked, or you're close to being naked,
Speaker 1: or you can be fully clothed in the space where
Speaker 1: the sexual energy is really high. Right, So you want
Speaker 1: to be really respectful of people's hidden traumas. If you
Speaker 1: have a person who's in the space and is dealing
Speaker 1: with someone and you come up behind them and just
Speaker 1: even if it's an innocent caress and small they're back,
Speaker 1: that could really trigger them. You may not even know
Speaker 1: about it, but I'm sure you don't want to be
Speaker 1: responsible for triggering somebody and leaving that person dealing with
Speaker 1: the mess the next day, you know, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times people won't show it in the moment. All right.
Speaker 1: Another thing I want people to be really, really aware
Speaker 1: of is that you need to be aware of your
Speaker 1: alcohol and drug You have to be in charge of
Speaker 1: your yeses and your nose. Saying no it's sexy as
Speaker 1: fuck because that lets you decide and puts you in
Speaker 1: a position to say, hey, I don't want that now.
Speaker 1: If you ask someone if you could be in their
Speaker 1: space and they're kind of like, okay, okay, take that
Speaker 1: as a noe, just back up, reset, because there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who don't know how to say no,
Speaker 1: and they may just go through the motions and just
Speaker 1: go through the motions, and then the next day they're
Speaker 1: left with like, why why did I do that? I
Speaker 1: don't want to go back ever again, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's important for all of us here to take care
Speaker 1: of each other. Um, that's kind of like a bit
Speaker 1: of what I say. And then I was like, literally,
Speaker 1: this is literally like and it makes the fact that
Speaker 1: you let the room know that Noah is sexy, like
Speaker 1: you'll let everyone in the room. You can say no here,
Speaker 1: And a lot of people assume, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: do I have to have sex if I go to
Speaker 1: a play party? For me those parties and I'm start
Speaker 1: to instrupt you. But this is something like it's I
Speaker 1: think if people are curious about going to parties, go
Speaker 1: to different parties, go to go to the whack ones,
Speaker 1: go to the good ones. Because honestly, if you come
Speaker 1: to anything we our name is on it. You skipped
Speaker 1: all these steps. You went from not you, You went
Speaker 1: from having like fucking fried steak to for naming young
Speaker 1: and you don't know the steps it takes to get there.
Speaker 1: What's the ideal amount of people for a party if
Speaker 1: you could be in your idea for me, not for
Speaker 1: any beginning or anything for you me, um in our space, okay,
Speaker 1: in any space for me. I like, I like um
Speaker 1: open more plans. The reason I like open floor pants
Speaker 1: is because they're they're less rooms, they're less stores, and
Speaker 1: there's less of an opportunity something fund up could happen
Speaker 1: where she said. She said, that's interesting, that's very interesting. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I thought. I thought, because this maybe someone's first
Speaker 1: time having private rooms would be a benefit. You're like,
Speaker 1: actually not, in my opinion, if it's your first time,
Speaker 1: don't even try to fun talk to people. Maybe give
Speaker 1: each other littlehead of something that I don't come in
Speaker 1: my first time talking to somebody. They thought I was
Speaker 1: ready to fun, but you talked too long to somebody
Speaker 1: my friend. Oh yeah, because I was just like, I'm nervous,
Speaker 1: let me just talk. I realized after for five minutes
Speaker 1: they were like all right, And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: ship like weather movies. I've talked myself out of pussy
Speaker 1: so many times a party. Yeah, I'm I'm as a
Speaker 1: rebel dude, like I'm like, hey, um um, I'll ask
Speaker 1: you about your life. And some people I learned over
Speaker 1: the years come into a space with alter egos. You know,
Speaker 1: it protects them. So WHI I'm asking questions and they
Speaker 1: open up and I'm like, yeah, so, so when was
Speaker 1: last too you saw your dad. We just talked about this.
Speaker 1: That is my thing that I've so if you guys
Speaker 1: are in a space where you either want to be
Speaker 1: a unicorn or you want to add someone as a
Speaker 1: third and I just recently saw the difference between us.
Speaker 1: In why I prefer this environment, it's because I've gone
Speaker 1: there and I had to ask people did we funk?
Speaker 1: Like I don't remember, don't don't really know your name,
Speaker 1: don't know anything about your life. And to me, that's
Speaker 1: been a safe place for me in terms of engaging sexually.
Speaker 1: I'm expressing myself sexually. We're having a great time, but
Speaker 1: the emotional aspect of getting to know both women and
Speaker 1: men to me as draining. And it's probably why during
Speaker 1: my twenties I've had so many relationships that didn't amount
Speaker 1: to relationship. But I enjoy with women just sex. I
Speaker 1: don't like the clean nature. I don't like the knowing
Speaker 1: much about them, and so the sex cluff is allowed.
Speaker 1: It's great that it's amazing that or even in situations
Speaker 1: like I've been asked before, the difference between like swingers
Speaker 1: and polyamorisms and and my thing, you know, and from
Speaker 1: my experience, there's a real blurry line is there because
Speaker 1: the longer you're in it, the more you realize it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: these definitions are are very pigeonholing because for instance, uh,
Speaker 1: my partner and I we may fund other people, but
Speaker 1: it's always in this in the same space. Do we
Speaker 1: love some of the people we suck? Yeah? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've known some of these people for like six seven years.
Speaker 1: You know, our primary couple who we started this community with.
Speaker 1: You know, those are people's you know, like we love
Speaker 1: the funk out of them. Um. But do my partner
Speaker 1: and I engage separate? No, we don't. You know, It's
Speaker 1: not like she goes on a date and I'm at
Speaker 1: work wondering what the fun is going on? How long
Speaker 1: have you been with your with your seven years? So
Speaker 1: you have a kid, right, two kids? Do your kids
Speaker 1: or your family know about what you do? And I
Speaker 1: have to talk to my son, um about he's seventeen
Speaker 1: year old daughter and seven teen year old son. So yeah, grown,
Speaker 1: I got I got two grandkids around. Yeah old Um.
Speaker 1: With my son, it was it was an easy conversation.
Speaker 1: He's a dope kid. We spoke about what sex positivity
Speaker 1: means to him, you know, and and the and behold
Speaker 1: look like I mean, you're fucking already. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Um, they have access to more
Speaker 1: listen I've ever had at that age. But what they
Speaker 1: don't have is the is applicable knowledge or the wisdom
Speaker 1: behind it. So it's it's all theory, you know. So um.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason we have a space, part of
Speaker 1: the reason why are space is the way it is
Speaker 1: is because I wanted, uh, people like my son and
Speaker 1: and and my little brother Milo to feel safe and
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable, to be like yo, and my little
Speaker 1: brother Milo's you know, it's my little bro wasn't always
Speaker 1: my little brother, but he's always been my little brother inside,
Speaker 1: and now he's my little brother outside, you know. And
Speaker 1: and if I could be part of a space where
Speaker 1: my son and my brother and and other people of
Speaker 1: the l g B t q I community could feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and then assists heads could come in there and
Speaker 1: not function it up, then then my daughter, because I
Speaker 1: feel like with women, they're more like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like I don't want my dad here. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's she's way three, Like she's obviously fucking like like
Speaker 1: her man's pulled out game is not good her grandfather.
Speaker 1: I know what's going on, but like you didn't feel
Speaker 1: like your kids were just and maybe that's how you
Speaker 1: raised them. They were listen. It's not like I'm explicit
Speaker 1: about what goes on. I just you know, when my
Speaker 1: son is like, you know, I'm part of a sex
Speaker 1: positive community. I promote sex positivity and enthusiastic consent whatever
Speaker 1: that means. It's a broad spectrum, you know. I don't
Speaker 1: need to to really get too deep and with my
Speaker 1: son because he is my son, he's seventeen. I don't
Speaker 1: want to suck his head up. For people that are
Speaker 1: listening that have kids in't that like tween teenage, like
Speaker 1: and maybe you're in the lifestyle or have other partners,
Speaker 1: Like what would be your advice for like bringing those
Speaker 1: partners around? What do you think those conversations in terms
Speaker 1: of what Because we stick it here and in this
Speaker 1: our auntie and our uncle, well we know, like let's
Speaker 1: say maybe you're maybe you're in and you're you know
Speaker 1: what I mean like that for me, I haven't. I
Speaker 1: think our pamin next may have met my son a
Speaker 1: few times. They definitely have met a few times, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of in passing um when because as
Speaker 1: we do so many events in the space that we
Speaker 1: live in, like I don't be having niggas over. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm not. There's not an event. I'm not you know, no,
Speaker 1: like I'm chilling. Yeah, I've been in hostility in my
Speaker 1: whole adult life. I'm always around a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So it's just like you know when when I when
Speaker 1: I get alone time, it's like fun everyone and just
Speaker 1: your kids are coming over. So then what advice would
Speaker 1: you have if someone is say lifestyle um and maybe
Speaker 1: has a non traditional, non monogamous relationship introducing someone that
Speaker 1: may not like their children. The team be honest talked
Speaker 1: about the beauty of relationships and how many different forms
Speaker 1: it can have. You know what, I think that's important,
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't you want your kid to have a
Speaker 1: healthy outlook on sex? Because if you're doing that and
Speaker 1: you think about the journey you had to go through,
Speaker 1: and think about the ship you had to go through,
Speaker 1: and and all the handgups you had to let go of,
Speaker 1: and the things that you still feel when you're in
Speaker 1: the moment, sometimes, why would you want your kid to
Speaker 1: go through that? You know, why would you want to
Speaker 1: say if your daughter the challenge of saying, you know
Speaker 1: what I own my pussy? Yeah you do. I don't
Speaker 1: need to know what you're doing with it as a dad,
Speaker 1: but I could want to make sure that whatever you're
Speaker 1: doing is because you want to do it, and also
Speaker 1: not to mention like we are. For some reason, I
Speaker 1: feel like people can think that the conversation around your
Speaker 1: sexual orientation is easier than like the type of relationships
Speaker 1: you have, Like I could tell my kid I'm game,
Speaker 1: but maybe I can't tell them I'm Polly. And I
Speaker 1: think it's just had enough years of open and like
Speaker 1: understanding what that means, you know, seventh seen, I did
Speaker 1: not know what Polly meant. I never heard of the
Speaker 1: word polly, even a seventeen super sex. But that's not
Speaker 1: familiar with all the terms that we've learned even over
Speaker 1: the last six years. I learned from a show on
Speaker 1: Showtime from sex for Polly. Oh no, no, you're right, No,
Speaker 1: it's called polyamory on Showtime. A matter of fact, one
Speaker 1: of the chicks her sister now, is a Patreon like
Speaker 1: subscriber of ours, and um that was when I first
Speaker 1: like was like, oh, like I like women like this,
Speaker 1: What could I be in the trouble like? And my
Speaker 1: brain started to work And I think that was like
Speaker 1: my biggest awakening into understanding multiple relationships because I knew
Speaker 1: polygamy wasn't something I wanted right but even because I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, me neither. If you could funk out
Speaker 1: the pussy on need other dick, it wasn't even on
Speaker 1: the deck like they don't they don't funk each other.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I need to be a the bitch.
Speaker 1: I brought up your your kids because we had a
Speaker 1: vanilla ship we wanted to do, and Mandy was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a dad, let's be perfect. Look ahead, vanilla vanilla
Speaker 1: ll We're not giving you a vanilla shake right now. Basically,
Speaker 1: there was a viral clip of a guy bringing McDonald's
Speaker 1: to his son. I don't know if you saw it,
Speaker 1: and the woman basically spazzed out because she has two
Speaker 1: other kids, and she was like, neighbor, what the fun?
Speaker 1: Where's the food for my So I'm gonna play a
Speaker 1: little bit of this clip just so you can see it.
Speaker 1: Daddy come here with one and for my child, but
Speaker 1: I have three other kids. We have one kids together.
Speaker 1: But you only want to come or break one thing
Speaker 1: to McDonald's. One about my other kids? How can you
Speaker 1: can't see my other kids? McDonald's. Poe like this, feel
Speaker 1: like you're not going to sit here and make my
Speaker 1: other kids feel left out and you're only bringing one
Speaker 1: child something you may agree with that. Wait do you
Speaker 1: what about? Okay? I don't know if you've ever been
Speaker 1: broken your life? Okay, do your do you do your kids?
Speaker 1: Do you? They did their mothers have other children? H No? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I feel you said just one? Actually see god?
Speaker 1: She said she looks like you have multiple baby mother
Speaker 1: You did say mothers? I feel right away? Yea? Anyway, right,
Speaker 1: isn't that she said you got took? But she say
Speaker 1: you gotta beard, you light skin. It's different baby moms.
Speaker 1: You'll pull out a game week. I was like, play parties,
Speaker 1: you know, big moments. Okay, you said you agree and
Speaker 1: you're broke? Is the broke days? What if? That was? Like?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you want to do something? You
Speaker 1: know what I did in my broke is the broke days?
Speaker 1: I would have fucking because you could buy cheap ice
Speaker 1: cream and whatever, a little mixer, throw that it in
Speaker 1: a blender and make enough of the three kids. The
Speaker 1: problem with it is as as a as a parent,
Speaker 1: even if you're outside or just just an adult, why
Speaker 1: would you want to single out one child because when
Speaker 1: you single out that child, they deal with different percussions
Speaker 1: of being the only ones in. Yes, kind of agree,
Speaker 1: so like I can't even believe I'm doing like two
Speaker 1: things at one time or thinking two things at one time.
Speaker 1: Here I agree, and then the other like turning point
Speaker 1: of this, I'm like, but would that keep somebody from
Speaker 1: being a good dad? Like, for example, I never had
Speaker 1: that experience my parents like group together, but I do
Speaker 1: remember one of my home girls just being like, oh,
Speaker 1: like he didn't take me and my sister anywhere? What
Speaker 1: if he just couldn't afford to fucking kids in the moment?
Speaker 1: And then what if he had to think, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like if there are more kids
Speaker 1: in the house, I've got to do this with all
Speaker 1: the kids, and I just can't, so I'll just ignore it.
Speaker 1: But I also agree with you because how fucked up
Speaker 1: is it? But also do you not pick your kid
Speaker 1: up and take them to go somewhere or do you
Speaker 1: have to take all the other kids. No, no, But
Speaker 1: if you're spending time something as small as as a
Speaker 1: shake like on some real ship, we I think a
Speaker 1: lot of times we we project thoughts of niggas being
Speaker 1: that broke. But he looked like he had some gear on.
Speaker 1: Not to look at the video and look at the
Speaker 1: fit in the video. I bet you he's looking, you know, decently, presentable.
Speaker 1: You know. So those are financial decisions you make beforehand.
Speaker 1: And if you allow those decisions like sucking a chick
Speaker 1: who got mad kids raw and getting her pregnant, know
Speaker 1: that there's other things attached to that, and and and
Speaker 1: and and I don't I'm not saying you're not you're
Speaker 1: not responsible for raising them, but the little ship like
Speaker 1: a fucking milkshake or a bag of chips. Don't single
Speaker 1: out your kids like that. It's weird. I grew up um.
Speaker 1: So my mom has two baby daddies. One of the
Speaker 1: mes got deported back to Haiti and my dad. When
Speaker 1: my mom did ask for more help because she was
Speaker 1: taking care of all of us, we had to all
Speaker 1: get DNA tests and we didn't speak to him for
Speaker 1: a year, and it became very awkward because she just
Speaker 1: needed help, even just for the two of us out
Speaker 1: of the three, and so that's hard I understand though
Speaker 1: from all aspects. Where to me that to me, I
Speaker 1: put that on my mom even growing up, and we've
Speaker 1: kind of had this conversation as an adult, like you
Speaker 1: pro created with man that ended up being deported. I
Speaker 1: don't think my father should have showed up for my
Speaker 1: other sister. He did for Christmas and holidays, but always
Speaker 1: not as much as he showed up for me and
Speaker 1: my other sister. And I and I never faulted my
Speaker 1: dad because he's living his life. He created me and
Speaker 1: my sister and then he had another son. So to me,
Speaker 1: I never thought it was right for my mom to
Speaker 1: expect him to show up as a father for my
Speaker 1: younger sister, knowing that the other person she created this
Speaker 1: kid with couldn't show up. And so to me, that
Speaker 1: was just unfair. So when I saw this clip, what
Speaker 1: about when he picked you guys up? Did you guys?
Speaker 1: Did you pick up all three of you? A um,
Speaker 1: For the most part, yes, he did. Okay, for the
Speaker 1: most part, yes, from from what I can remember growing up,
Speaker 1: he he did get all of us. But I know Christmas,
Speaker 1: Holidays and birthdays I don't remember him really doing her
Speaker 1: birthday and holiday specifically, she'll get one gift. Me and
Speaker 1: my other sister got a lot of gifts. She would
Speaker 1: just be she would have something, but it would never
Speaker 1: be to the extent of me and my sisters. But
Speaker 1: I never expected him to show up for that way.
Speaker 1: She got a whole different daddy, and before her daddy
Speaker 1: got deported, he would show up only for her. The
Speaker 1: Haitian daddy like my sister's uh father. Me and my
Speaker 1: sister never got nothing from his ass. My dad showed
Speaker 1: up more for my sister than her dad showed up
Speaker 1: for her. So I just but I believe that that
Speaker 1: was my mom's responsibility. Any any any hang ups and
Speaker 1: how the father showed up, what's her responsibility? My mom,
Speaker 1: you're a single mother now hate that you are, but
Speaker 1: these are these were your choices and men, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what's the It was her responsibility to just show up
Speaker 1: as a mom, maybe makeup where these niggas shows, not
Speaker 1: to make up for I never expected my my little
Speaker 1: sister's dad to be hard dad. And even though my
Speaker 1: dad showed up more for her, to me, that was
Speaker 1: a responsibility where Ms. Tammy maybe you show up a
Speaker 1: little bit more and we kind of tas No, we
Speaker 1: grew up in a single parent house. I saw my
Speaker 1: dad whenever the nigga chose to show up, and we
Speaker 1: got gifts, and he made my mom feel like ship
Speaker 1: because he bought us all the name brand ship my
Speaker 1: mom couldn't afford because she's running a single parent household.
Speaker 1: But in terms of how both of our dads showed up,
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever expected my sister's dad to
Speaker 1: show up for me as a child, and in vice versa.
Speaker 1: Growing up now, I understand the difference I feel as
Speaker 1: a father of two children having two grandkids if I
Speaker 1: were to have a child with a woman who has
Speaker 1: like two other kids, um, just because of just growing
Speaker 1: up Latino, Like, those are my kids. So that's a
Speaker 1: conversation you gotta have early. No, of course, got a conversation.
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about a milkshake like Orphandonald order
Speaker 1: and there's niggas actually trying to fucking justify, like how
Speaker 1: broke are you? Like if you're respond no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie to me. That's my problem with social media,
Speaker 1: Like bro handle that to me. That's something that you
Speaker 1: videotape your nigga dropping off food for his kid and
Speaker 1: made him seem like a bad dad for taking care
Speaker 1: of his child. So that to me was nuts. Do
Speaker 1: you know what? I feel like he could have the
Speaker 1: only thing you so, you know, like a woman is
Speaker 1: not wrong at all? In oh, no, I think she's wrong.
Speaker 1: I was gonna saying, I'm sorry. Why can't the owners
Speaker 1: also be on the nigger for knowing who he's putting
Speaker 1: his nicken? You know, like if if you like, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. How many times have we dated someone and
Speaker 1: they do some ship months down the road? They were like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck it right right away? Plan B fifty
Speaker 1: five dollars maybe more than I know what a nigga
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good baby dad? Get crazy, my
Speaker 1: whole reals acting crazy, and I'd be like, damn, who
Speaker 1: then have you come like valid? And I especially would
Speaker 1: love I don't know who I became less what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: love make you do crazy things, and then he might
Speaker 1: got a new bitch and you're like, fuck you and
Speaker 1: this McDonald's come back to that hole. That's where it's
Speaker 1: always another You took it, You took an extreme. I
Speaker 1: did but so does she. But anyway, get four bags
Speaker 1: and chips dollars. He could have walked it like tip
Speaker 1: of non inflated life. Do you live in I just
Speaker 1: went to the grocery store for the first time in
Speaker 1: a long time. Chips are not four for one. I
Speaker 1: don't know where them niggas them? Chips is hot? Do
Speaker 1: you know? Fetter cheese is sixteen dollars and nigga? That
Speaker 1: was that was at food Bizarre. I wasn't even fet
Speaker 1: a cheese was sixteen dollars. I was like, let me
Speaker 1: get some short rooms fifty eight dollars. I said, no,
Speaker 1: it's staying in there. I also did not get the
Speaker 1: sixteen dollars a cheese, the sixteen bro I went some
Speaker 1: foods five this one. Black people like to doller anyway, hope,
Speaker 1: okay all the time. I know, but I don't even
Speaker 1: feet a hole. But you eat cheese, but not fatter.
Speaker 1: You just don't eat fetter, but you eat cheese. No,
Speaker 1: I like to get a plate of it's called a shark. Oh,
Speaker 1: she said, I like sharkucci sharkui Haitian nigger. I was corrected,
Speaker 1: shark Wait, what is it? What is that? It was
Speaker 1: so embarrassing again. I mean, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: say it like that man the French new or the
Speaker 1: creole which one? Because Haitian is not French, bitch, it's
Speaker 1: a broken French. His is not anyway, He's a special
Speaker 1: Haitian and it's beautiful and it is all right when
Speaker 1: they be pulling that, I don't do that. Don't you
Speaker 1: don't do that? Don't like you? Just we stop? Welcome
Speaker 1: to stop? Can we start doing that? No? See that's
Speaker 1: your French person be like differently. Horror is our next segment.
Speaker 1: Sex tip. It could be receiving giving something for women
Speaker 1: men they they am I don't know. Give us a sexip,
Speaker 1: Louise a sex tip. I think the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: I've learned in my experience as as as an adult
Speaker 1: is listen, wenna that okay, okay, like an actual take
Speaker 1: give me some freaking we like I love eating pussy
Speaker 1: like a my things. Right here we go now joining
Speaker 1: you like getting my finger just maybe like up to
Speaker 1: the second digit inside uh and concentric circles also consensual
Speaker 1: you're you think a lot of big words. Circles just
Speaker 1: get a little bigger and get smaller again. Circles, circles,
Speaker 1: you know, that's my favorite. Pressure pressure on the claturist
Speaker 1: itself on the and then you know you sound like
Speaker 1: right there, But the thing is what I've noticed the
Speaker 1: baseball turn that way and then start moving down like
Speaker 1: right where the ass is at. But you're selling the
Speaker 1: pussy and putting pressure on that area. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of nerves there too. So as far as eat and pussy, like,
Speaker 1: that's that's my ship. You I mean, I like to
Speaker 1: think of the beer. I can tell you who I know.
Speaker 1: If you get this far in life and don't know
Speaker 1: how to fuck or eat pussy or suck dick, then
Speaker 1: it's not Yeah, definitely. Men have no idea that they
Speaker 1: need to start with just a little bit and you
Speaker 1: can maybe quick though it's like and I think they
Speaker 1: just can't grasp that, like like you have to stop
Speaker 1: thinking it's it's not. The pussy is very sensitive. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of nerve endings. Just give a little and
Speaker 1: we will get a lot and we will let you
Speaker 1: know if we want more. Like I've had that been
Speaker 1: really okay with it, and then suddenly I've pulled someone's
Speaker 1: risk closer to me, Like let someone lead you more
Speaker 1: than we push you away, because nothing is worse than
Speaker 1: doing this when someone's eating your pussy. I get so
Speaker 1: embarrassed to do that because then I gotta explain how
Speaker 1: terb like like going to teach you. Yeah, mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get stuck with. I know it's
Speaker 1: up to you, not in my pussy. Power, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see a sub the power. Let's figuring
Speaker 1: out you like to be a sub. Okay, I'm the
Speaker 1: dumb over here, so you see it's a dynamic. This
Speaker 1: is how this is working. Sider line for this show.
Speaker 1: I own a sexpob basically, So how did you grow up?
Speaker 1: And what what did you think you were gonna do? Um?
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a teacher. Yeah, it's still I
Speaker 1: mean I'm a musician. Um that as I do music fingers,
Speaker 1: that's not my focus right now. Look, I hate you
Speaker 1: edit too. Should we call you Carlos Santana? That's awful?
Speaker 1: Was not ready actual? Now this has given whole nid.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you same. Um. The question was what
Speaker 1: did I think I'd be doing? Definitely not doing this,
Speaker 1: But I am I am, I'm always been a community
Speaker 1: building in a community organizer on whatever level, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's always been my thing. Um, and I
Speaker 1: happened to like fucking right, like I gotta thanks for it.
Speaker 1: Tell me if you think this is dirty? Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We had this conversation or if I
Speaker 1: did another interview where somebody it was like a conversation
Speaker 1: like I think it was me and you, and we
Speaker 1: were talking about our parents, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: think I've always been kind of sexual, but not in
Speaker 1: this way of like my mom grew me up to
Speaker 1: be a horn. We were talking about the hord baby.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh I knew. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: do you think you grew up like that? Like, do
Speaker 1: you think you had it? You grew up to be
Speaker 1: a horr Um? I think I I was a fun
Speaker 1: boy for a minute. You don't say what your tribal
Speaker 1: tats and beard? But I got those after that? Well, no,
Speaker 1: it's happened. Did you have the kids and the tattoos?
Speaker 1: It happened. Since I'll say this, um, and this is
Speaker 1: directly related to the question. It took a lot of
Speaker 1: women to raise me. It took my mom my, thea
Speaker 1: uh my daughter's mother influenced me a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: my son's mother and the woman I'm with right now
Speaker 1: to get where I'm at. So before or I was honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I was, um a demisexual, which
Speaker 1: is I like connections. So I was trying to fuck
Speaker 1: and finding myself like this isn't cool, and then being
Speaker 1: in relationships and always I've only I've been in four relationships.
Speaker 1: What's the difference though, between a demisexual and a sapio sexual.
Speaker 1: Sapio sexual is really just more the brain, like just
Speaker 1: thinking about things, like talking like like Demi is actual.
Speaker 1: Demi is a connection, like I want an emotional collect
Speaker 1: connection with somebody you are. Demi is fun, That's all.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out because it ain't really
Speaker 1: Stepio hurt. Yeah, I think it's not me, not like
Speaker 1: it's hard I do, like don't you don't know? But
Speaker 1: they loved me and giving Demi giving Demi. He loves me.
Speaker 1: He has a big bite, Oh my god. And maybe
Speaker 1: I drop this gun off to this homeboy for him off.
Speaker 1: Oh he picked it up. He said it's in there,
Speaker 1: but hood because it's different. I can't explain this ship, bro.
Speaker 1: I love hooding. You've been to jail? Me deal inid me?
Speaker 1: Do you want to know something? Trolin not your person.
Speaker 1: I've been day and recently has a great job. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you know? We connected and bonded one night drunk
Speaker 1: over how many times we've been to jail. I was like,
Speaker 1: look at us, look at who would have thought? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, like what about you? And he was like,
Speaker 1: damn there that one. And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: got me. Tell what you know been a jail what
Speaker 1: does it matter? You know? Damn that's a felon girl. No,
Speaker 1: he was like seven misdemeaners. I mean no, Like I
Speaker 1: think that we can all eyes above it, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. I love that that we connected over jail
Speaker 1: words and yo, I've been a lot of like four times. No,
Speaker 1: way we're at that's nut. That's nut. That's nuts. So
Speaker 1: technically you are a community builder and an education Like
Speaker 1: you're still kind of an education totally. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the role that that I've been privileged to be allowed
Speaker 1: to do in the community. Okay, So it's like cool
Speaker 1: if this is the role that that that I'm lucky
Speaker 1: to be doing, and that's fine. I'm good with it
Speaker 1: with your family raising you what what's the tea on
Speaker 1: any of the family members that like anyone not sport?
Speaker 1: My mom knows because my partner's older. Um, were you mad? No,
Speaker 1: my mom is cool at fun. Man Like, she's cool
Speaker 1: as fun. It's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: she she she was just open enough with me growing up,
Speaker 1: Uh where she you know, she didn't hide things from me,
Speaker 1: but she didn't bullshit me. My mom manby, but she
Speaker 1: was seventeen. So it's one of those things where like
Speaker 1: I was lucky that she was mature enough to handle
Speaker 1: a ship. But also you know, she was just open
Speaker 1: about things. I never felt like I couldn't go and
Speaker 1: talk to her. Um, so I need to talk to
Speaker 1: her about my swinger parties. Probably not, it's cool, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear like, oh you got it honest, Like,
Speaker 1: let's that's a lot, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: and like Mama's boy last week. Yeah, but also it's
Speaker 1: funny that you say that too because with this with
Speaker 1: us having his podcast and he shares, No, it wasn't
Speaker 1: he covered his dick, he covered it. It was just
Speaker 1: his body. It was dick was not there. The dick
Speaker 1: was not there. It was just like the p But
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, mamma, look where I'm sucking. But
Speaker 1: then show called me and try to talk about her
Speaker 1: sexual experiences and get advice from me, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: my no, I have my pot. And she's like, but
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you because I didn't have this
Speaker 1: opportunity to be this open. She'll like, ask me about toys.
Speaker 1: She'll be like, oh, girl, that rolls baby, and I'm like, Ma,
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. I'm not having that conversation
Speaker 1: with my mom. But what okay, but what about as
Speaker 1: a man? Then? What about what the mail? The man
Speaker 1: in your life is a hardcore joble witness. Wait he
Speaker 1: didn't raise me though, Okay, okay, okay. I remember one
Speaker 1: of the funniest moments of my life. My my, my
Speaker 1: mom or not I opening. My mom was on the
Speaker 1: phone with him and she started laughing and I heard
Speaker 1: him screaming and she had the phone on him and
Speaker 1: She's like hysterically laughing. Why was it He called her
Speaker 1: a fornicating whore? You know, ye, But I'm the hor Wow,
Speaker 1: you know that ain't good to know it's been this
Speaker 1: way for generations. So I'm like, I don't any any
Speaker 1: other family members. I don't need to talk too much
Speaker 1: people about it to too many people, uh in my
Speaker 1: family about it. My my little brother knows, you know,
Speaker 1: so if he wants to come to an event, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll make sure I'm not there because I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I'm not gonna lie. We've
Speaker 1: talked about um. There was a vanilla and a couple
Speaker 1: probably last year now, where a father and son went
Speaker 1: to a sex party together, or was it a mother
Speaker 1: and daughter. I remember something like that. Have you had
Speaker 1: any like crazy experiences where people ran into each other
Speaker 1: and like I've had, I've seen a brother and sister
Speaker 1: but they weren't doing anything, and somebody was triggered by
Speaker 1: the presence of a brother and sister they went together,
Speaker 1: hold his pants down in front of his sister and said,
Speaker 1: there you see his dick now, And she flipped. She flipped.
Speaker 1: Seeing things like that or why we fucking curate because
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't know what. Then I was
Speaker 1: right there, I was right there watching. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that that ship. She really did that
Speaker 1: you know they went together. Yeah, but they were fully dressed.
Speaker 1: They weren't doing anything. It was, but they like, why
Speaker 1: go together? Why? Man? I don't. I don't mean I
Speaker 1: do I judge. I don't. I don't think there's I judged. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going in there and its support
Speaker 1: system and you're not sucking each other, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like, I think it comes down to your
Speaker 1: perspective and what you're comfortable with what I'm saying now,
Speaker 1: it's your space. Do you have hard limits for any
Speaker 1: kinks that cannot happen like ship that involves like blood,
Speaker 1: unless it's specifically I just got lightheaded thinking about sucking
Speaker 1: Orlando talking about that ship with a butterfly maybe like
Speaker 1: czy Orlando. The last party I went to his spot,
Speaker 1: Orlando was there in a whole fucking fishnet body suit.
Speaker 1: I said, Orlando, why are you dressed like this? Like
Speaker 1: because I'm bad, I'm a bad bitch or some ship,
Speaker 1: my god, but outside of blood, you're cool with any
Speaker 1: other king happening ship. I mean stuff like that. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to yuck anyone's yums or someone likes
Speaker 1: that cool not here they black? Oh you did. I
Speaker 1: ask you, what has been the craziest thing you found
Speaker 1: in cleaning your spot? Oh? I fuckings for sure? Tampon? No, No,
Speaker 1: that's not the look I mean. I grew up in
Speaker 1: a household full of woman that wasn't crazy. My mom
Speaker 1: sent me to the store again time pans like that
Speaker 1: ship when in the storm, thirteen years old, getting like
Speaker 1: fucking assorted. Remember a little boy, but you do use them,
Speaker 1: don't the big ones that they got him? Home? Boy?
Speaker 1: They ship? So wait, I thought of tampon the what
Speaker 1: else did you see? I my fit my hand, I
Speaker 1: was pulling the sheet back, and there was a used
Speaker 1: them okay, and it was very discolored. Oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: have no idea where it was at? What the shiver
Speaker 1: like my split crawled in a wave up here toped
Speaker 1: my hand offs kind of shipped. I didn't know whose
Speaker 1: it was. It was the next day I was cleaning
Speaker 1: and it was a nuts ship in there too. It
Speaker 1: was a look. I didn't inspect it. I saw, I
Speaker 1: saw quickly, but you know, and you gotta chill. I
Speaker 1: got a chill? How and why lay the way? Have
Speaker 1: you already pussy so hard that you forgot to breathe
Speaker 1: and then oh wow, wow, wow, wow wow you in here. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it up. That's happened with this man
Speaker 1: right here, biggest Spanish all the year Apple Podcast said
Speaker 1: this is the English. Yeah, man, that's like one of
Speaker 1: my Mexican girl and you've re clueless. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't speak Mexican. She you know what she does mean
Speaker 1: when I get real, get real, she'd be like, bitch,
Speaker 1: here you go with your chicken. Ship says that we
Speaker 1: just go out with each other. She's black when we
Speaker 1: all says, and we just be going on. But I
Speaker 1: love because like any when I got my grill, she
Speaker 1: was like, there you go, that's the chicken right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've never I've gotten short of breath.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, it's really you're about to die.
Speaker 1: He Almo died. So there's that. Well, we've got a
Speaker 1: homemail and the reason I wanted you to join in
Speaker 1: lists because yes, we could give advice, but you may
Speaker 1: know what that man would want. So hey, ladies, Love
Speaker 1: the Podcast, got a new partner and we have really
Speaker 1: great sex. And today he texted me and said, make
Speaker 1: it exciting for me when I come back, please, don't
Speaker 1: judge me because I actually started freak out goods so insecure,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, damn. On the camera he
Speaker 1: said this pussy is so good, So I'm confused. Are
Speaker 1: there any tips? Tad excitement? He's long distance things in
Speaker 1: advance does not mean your puss she isn't good to me.
Speaker 1: I think it's just sexting and flirting and trying to
Speaker 1: hype it up. I think you probably. I think she
Speaker 1: should ask him what excites him? Why? Like why guests, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? Because one thing
Speaker 1: I have noticed is that, you know, relationships and conversations
Speaker 1: with other people, is that a lot of times us
Speaker 1: fellas tend to get like repetitive with our ships. So
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you want me to excite you, what
Speaker 1: do you like? And are you willing to do the
Speaker 1: same for me? It's a negotiation, right, like like like
Speaker 1: this is not just giving giving, giving, giving and not getting,
Speaker 1: So like, what do you like? I think there's a
Speaker 1: really easy answer, and I think people are so scared
Speaker 1: to ask that, but it's kind of good to put
Speaker 1: the ball in their court. Um. I was going to
Speaker 1: suggest the checklist when he wasn't watched Sex Cells. The
Speaker 1: first episode, Um, it's all about uh sexual healing and ship.
Speaker 1: Long story short, I go hang out with Freddy Gibbs
Speaker 1: and him and I talk about sex so much. We'll
Speaker 1: be talking about like the different ship we do, the
Speaker 1: ship we're scared of. So in the episode, we meet
Speaker 1: with someone who does sex therapy, jet Setting Jasmine, and
Speaker 1: we go through this b D s M checklist and
Speaker 1: it was so fucking funny because we go through this
Speaker 1: list and everything he said no to, no color, no this,
Speaker 1: no that, And literally after the episode he was like, Nick,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you about all the ship I just did.
Speaker 1: And there is a yes no maybe on the b
Speaker 1: D s M checklist. You just gotta google it. It'll
Speaker 1: pop up. But we kind of don't know until we
Speaker 1: go there, you know what I'm saying. And that's just
Speaker 1: like a really basic, kind of fun way to figure
Speaker 1: out what that person is into. And it might seem
Speaker 1: like you're giving them homework, but it's so exciting to
Speaker 1: talk about in fun. And like even me on the list,
Speaker 1: I said no to something that I did a week ago,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I think we just
Speaker 1: don't know and Also a note could be you may
Speaker 1: not feel like doing something with a certain individual that
Speaker 1: you're open to do with someone else. But I think
Speaker 1: it's crazy that you say that. I'm sure you do
Speaker 1: a peggy. Well, I would think just then outside of
Speaker 1: doing ing, outside of doing a checklist, or like asking well,
Speaker 1: what what what makes you exciting? One of the things
Speaker 1: that my partner used to do is Max when we
Speaker 1: would be in bed, he would be like, play the
Speaker 1: porn that you like to watch, and he'd be like,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you like to watch, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have have our fun, but watch what you like to watch.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's always something I said, maybe
Speaker 1: since season one of this show, and not really season
Speaker 1: You're one, You're one of the show, is to see
Speaker 1: what the person likes to watch in their porns. Like,
Speaker 1: I think that that's very indicative of what someone's into.
Speaker 1: To me that this is why I don't like straight porn?
Speaker 1: Do I like dick a whole lot? But is that
Speaker 1: why I watch gay porn? No? I like men being sensual,
Speaker 1: I like men moaning. I like men that trim. I
Speaker 1: don't want to Nigga fucking me and Tim. I don't
Speaker 1: know if my phorn is my my point is gay
Speaker 1: gay porn because of what I visually like to see
Speaker 1: and what I would like out of a partner, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very present and a lot of
Speaker 1: straight porn, and I like big old black dick. I
Speaker 1: just do baby see me all day. And I don't
Speaker 1: like unattractive women. I'm very visual in that gape point
Speaker 1: look good. I actually don't mind how the women look
Speaker 1: more than I might when a wig is bad. It's
Speaker 1: all the wig because bid looking girl. And I'll find
Speaker 1: attractivity in it because there's something sexy about it. I like.
Speaker 1: I like shitty porn. You like wait wait wait oh yeah,
Speaker 1: am oh no, I need the Lighting movie right now
Speaker 1: because at that point for me, amateur ship is like okay,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I'm watching um valid. I like imperfections.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Um off, dude, if you're
Speaker 1: making me think of something. So on sex Cells, I
Speaker 1: do episode about porn and we basically highlight a top
Speaker 1: earner on Only Fans lending the plug and then Evil
Speaker 1: Angel the studio, and it was so insane because they
Speaker 1: both make crazy amounts of money. Let us specifically talks
Speaker 1: about how like she only uses an iPhone because people
Speaker 1: like amateur ship. Right, she'll do her makeup but not
Speaker 1: crazy and like maybe the camera will sunk up whatever
Speaker 1: people are into that. And then with Evil Angel, the
Speaker 1: guy was saying to me, I was like, do you
Speaker 1: feel competition from only fans? And he's like, no, like
Speaker 1: people are watching this porn for this reason, right, Like
Speaker 1: the girl that was in there, it was just like
Speaker 1: beautiful house, all white, you see the pool in the back,
Speaker 1: need mansion, but like I don't want to see. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see. I don't want to see floral
Speaker 1: sheets and pillowcases the dope. Maybe I like that sometimes
Speaker 1: I like that ship, give me the fancy. Her house
Speaker 1: is limp, but like but they look on the floor. Look, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't magic on the phone. I do
Speaker 1: like a parking lot. But clearly because I had to
Speaker 1: teach Friday experience, that's probably a thing. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't need his narrative important. I don't care,
Speaker 1: not that I'll tell you watch part of the A
Speaker 1: one like it's training me. Like I drink off in
Speaker 1: the bath and I lived on myself. Now, y'all was
Speaker 1: playing video games and made a bet, Oh yeah, they'd
Speaker 1: be playing on basketball court lose, are gonna suck? Like
Speaker 1: that's the type of ship that I like. I like
Speaker 1: the narrative, like I love when I'm lost. No, no,
Speaker 1: even though they'll be they'll be sucking in the car
Speaker 1: and it's like this is what I did to my
Speaker 1: uber driver and now like I love, I love it.
Speaker 1: And then I started obsessing it is it real? Like
Speaker 1: I love, but I'd be like, oh every time like
Speaker 1: she scored to make a mistake, is it really a mistake?
Speaker 1: Like I don't thinking too much, but actually I got
Speaker 1: some really basic advice. You want spice stuff, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to do too much. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is go to sex store. You bout the fish net
Speaker 1: body suit is like eighteen dollars and then they just
Speaker 1: ripping when they're sucking you, and it's fun, a vanilla
Speaker 1: of you that's just like but that's basic, but it's
Speaker 1: still fun because you're ripping, you're fucking, they're tearing it
Speaker 1: up and there's a whole right for the pussy. Um,
Speaker 1: how can people support you more than like even following,
Speaker 1: like what can they do to support your your brand
Speaker 1: and up here party on Sundays, just Sunday's check this out.
Speaker 1: So it's Susia NYC. Info at Susia n y C.
Speaker 1: S u C I a NYC. Um if interested in
Speaker 1: our dance party, uh, email us via that and put
Speaker 1: Susia dance in the subject, let us know who you are. Um,
Speaker 1: same thing for play. Put Susie a play in the subject.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're gonna get in, and I don't
Speaker 1: want anyone to feel upset that they didn't get in.
Speaker 1: It's usually because we cap at a certain number for
Speaker 1: both our parties. Um, we offer a premium experience. UM,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to say, this is gonna
Speaker 1: come out super after. I'm really excited because I'm going
Speaker 1: to experience my first of them party this weekend, madus
Speaker 1: in my ID life time. So I am going. I'm
Speaker 1: excited because, Yeah, I like women. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of the women that are gonna come. A lot of
Speaker 1: the girls that I have brought are interested in coming.
Speaker 1: Um and I've never been to an all them play party,
Speaker 1: Like I gotta find somewhere to go. Basically, you'll be there.
Speaker 1: Get your grass out the speech. What do you say
Speaker 1: we don't play. We're gonna play your speech via FaceTime.
Speaker 1: You cannot be so funny. I'm excited. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: you still need a speech. I'm not saying it's but
Speaker 1: generally women are not always the craziest aggressor. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying with each other, no, No, I've found that women
Speaker 1: treat me a lot more kindly in my lifetime and
Speaker 1: are a lot more cautious of making me feel and
Speaker 1: anywhere sex clubs included, women have definitely paid more attention
Speaker 1: to being consensual with me. The dudes. It's weird because
Speaker 1: we also talked about to me, no, especially having the podcast,
Speaker 1: the meet and greet, it's been and I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with y'all right here to me and greet for this podcast. Specifically,
Speaker 1: they grab our as our breasts like we've had and
Speaker 1: to me, women understandably so cool. We all love each
Speaker 1: other as our bodies are, what our we vary, our
Speaker 1: bodies are, we we we we we like. I want
Speaker 1: to say we respect each other's body, but in the
Speaker 1: way we put ourselves out there, I would say we've
Speaker 1: been violated in our in our meet and greets and
Speaker 1: in public. To me, way more than personally. Thing that's
Speaker 1: ever happened to me is someone not leaving when it
Speaker 1: has to leave. Actually, that wasn't here. I think also
Speaker 1: context is important, like if you're again, if you're in
Speaker 1: a situation where there is a certain level of vulnerability
Speaker 1: and people want to come and explore something new, is
Speaker 1: important to to really if you are able to define
Speaker 1: your boundaries and what enthusiastic consent is before they even
Speaker 1: get to the space to get take their clothes off
Speaker 1: or meet and great or whatever, you're ready, you're setting
Speaker 1: the tone. It's the onus. I feel there's always in
Speaker 1: the people doing the events to make sure that they
Speaker 1: have um I would I call it the buoyon. Have
Speaker 1: your crew of people that you've been nurturing and you've
Speaker 1: been rocking with, have them be there. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a ship, the ship ship all right? And the instagram
Speaker 1: is what sousa nyc um. And one last thing I
Speaker 1: just want to say when you reach out to us, um, no,
Speaker 1: we don't need a picture. You don't. We don't need
Speaker 1: a picture. No I need a picture because you Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a nice space you've curated. Don't just be allowed
Speaker 1: to anybody. No, we when people are when people are
Speaker 1: in their highest truest form and they're naked and they're
Speaker 1: feeling good, they're beautiful full. You've seen the crowd, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, and like, I haven't seen really seen
Speaker 1: an ugly pussy. But I will say this, I've seen
Speaker 1: an ugly face. I've seen I've seen when get a
Speaker 1: chance person and you're like, yeah, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: stop talking niggas you see you because you like talking
Speaker 1: to people. I told you when I going to be faces.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk, but yeah, I know. I
Speaker 1: just want you to look good, give me a little.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk, so I don't want you
Speaker 1: to become attractive to me. I want to look at
Speaker 1: you and be like, eat, I just want to say
Speaker 1: something really quick. Uh, for any any if you're coming in,
Speaker 1: and ladies too, if you're coming in as a couple, Um,
Speaker 1: it's important for the fellows to understand that your girl
Speaker 1: isn't there just for you. Boom, thank you, she's if
Speaker 1: she's If she's lying and tells you that she just
Speaker 1: wants to fun other women and watch you be pleased
Speaker 1: you that's the first couple of times if a nig
Speaker 1: came in and looked better than my nigga cool I
Speaker 1: had an ex to just everybody wanted to climb. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I gonna step down when this
Speaker 1: is the prize in the building that I think. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you're just into someone, your brain is there,
Speaker 1: and I think women just go there. But I agree
Speaker 1: with you after having mad women come up to me
Speaker 1: and be like, Yo, can you talk to my man
Speaker 1: and let him know that I would like I would
Speaker 1: like to engage. It's been like a couple of months
Speaker 1: of me come to this party and all I've done
Speaker 1: is eat pussy and suck his dick with like other girls,
Speaker 1: and they want to be involved. So understand that don't
Speaker 1: don't be selfish niggas, don't sing um and also especially
Speaker 1: for men, besides hard dick and a smile, what do
Speaker 1: you bring into our community? What makes you so dope
Speaker 1: that we should embrace you and bring you in it?
Speaker 1: It could be anything. It doesn't have to be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know I'm a scholar now and I'm just a
Speaker 1: cool motherfucker. Um. Yeah, I love that. Well, if you
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of our cinema. We have
Speaker 1: been talking about Johnson's cabarets so much chat we weren't
Speaker 1: able to do it on nothing else. I will tell
Speaker 1: you guys this, even if you don't watch the show,
Speaker 1: we promise we will make it relative, make it fun.
Speaker 1: It's also such a hot mess that should probably seen
Speaker 1: the show. This is just every ratchet show reincarnated that
Speaker 1: you've ever watched on DV. I really like it. I
Speaker 1: really think that what Zeus is doing uh with their
Speaker 1: content is really really good. I'm watching um. Let me
Speaker 1: give you a gauge from what I know from other people,
Speaker 1: so we could take maybe a guess of what we think.
Speaker 1: Bad Girls Club Girls get anywhere from two to four
Speaker 1: thousand an episode. Love and Hip Hop gasts three thousand
Speaker 1: an episode for first timers, ten thousand for like that's
Speaker 1: all because I know people all love it hip guy
Speaker 1: from talking about like for the first show, three thousand
Speaker 1: for like a no name for first timers to ten thousand,
Speaker 1: So you could try to get anywhere from one to
Speaker 1: one fifty and the other thing with Love and Hip Hop,
Speaker 1: though it's based on appearance, So sorry handing the line,
Speaker 1: but I do know that Quimby was paying about five
Speaker 1: thousand an episode for new shows, and Quippy had a
Speaker 1: larger budgete than Zeus, but they didn't have anyone as
Speaker 1: big as Joscelyn. Johncelyn's putting out and I'm shocked. I mean,
Speaker 1: Quimby also went out in six months. They did, but
Speaker 1: they had mad bread though. They were giving it all out.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, they were spending it on production,
Speaker 1: building studios, so they just used their money wrong. But
Speaker 1: if these shows give it out that much, what do
Speaker 1: you think Joscelyn is getting on a streaming platform not
Speaker 1: TV or cable. I'm not gonna hold you. It depends
Speaker 1: how good her attorney is. I know too many people
Speaker 1: that have done TV who have been like, it's worth it,
Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of people who have done
Speaker 1: TV and said, yeah, it ain't worth it because it's
Speaker 1: really they can guarantee exposure, so that's where they're like,
Speaker 1: you can go and get kill things and bookings. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't be watching these people. I
Speaker 1: think that she definitely is a millionaire out of all
Speaker 1: of the ventures she has, but I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know watch the jobs you but I did do.
Speaker 1: We probably watched the Call Her daddy Ship. Whenever something
Speaker 1: is going on or if anything, I always want to
Speaker 1: know what people in my lane are getting paid. That's important, bro,
Speaker 1: for the job that I have. Now, I called three
Speaker 1: people that worked at Audible. I called Charlotte, I main,
Speaker 1: I said, I know y'all don't get along nowaday' friends,
Speaker 1: but I said, I know y'all get alone, but I
Speaker 1: need to talk to the people that do my job
Speaker 1: on your side, like we I think getting undervalued and
Speaker 1: undersold is like something that is super important, and we've
Speaker 1: definitely been conscientious of that too. Like I'm really happy
Speaker 1: with what we got, you know, for a black Effect contract.
Speaker 1: But even now it's like, what if we grow crazy
Speaker 1: then what? Like it's it's good to know your competition
Speaker 1: and um not that I will start a tripper show.
Speaker 1: But she's just so phenomenal that I am curious because
Speaker 1: even when I watched season one, it wasn't given With
Speaker 1: season two gay, it wasn't giving way that supposed to
Speaker 1: gay naked. Season two was gorgeous, she was fine, the
Speaker 1: bitches was batter Like. That show is really impressive to
Speaker 1: the point where like, now that I'm done and waiting
Speaker 1: for that next episode, now Zeus got me clicking on
Speaker 1: other ship them nig is smart, bro, real good didn't
Speaker 1: be Samoneople on there too. Yeah, did you watch it
Speaker 1: for like the love of the Simone or something? I
Speaker 1: just got zeus. No, I didn't. I didn't watch your show.
Speaker 1: T T got one to the dude from with the
Speaker 1: blue hair. I wish I could. He's not trance, he'd
Speaker 1: just be putting a wig on up good. I got
Speaker 1: everybody I gotta show on that motherfuck anyway. Out of
Speaker 1: all the women or men that have futured, you've got
Speaker 1: her husband and a therapist. Who would you want to
Speaker 1: fuck from Jocelyn's caberet? Uh, it's damn? What's her name?
Speaker 1: How long? I got the one she has the short hair,
Speaker 1: like short red hair. LEXI blow yes, so the one
Speaker 1: that Johnson was like so Lexi Lexie and Miss Natural.
Speaker 1: Those are my two favorite ms. Natural. Maybe she's just
Speaker 1: turned me off somebody because she'll be here going nuts.
Speaker 1: I like her so I like Miss Natural and I
Speaker 1: like Lexi those ms LEXI blow LEXI blows hot. But
Speaker 1: that's the lightest I've ever seen you. Um find somebody attractive?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about you saying that my my
Speaker 1: ex is the same way? Now, Like we'll go to
Speaker 1: a club and uh, he'll like already know. And he
Speaker 1: says that he's like, you don't like light skinned girls,
Speaker 1: like you don't like