WEBVTT - S1 E10: Terminal Studies

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<v Speaker 1>The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>It is intended for mature listeners. In the field of

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of

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<v Speaker 1>innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled

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<v Speaker 1>to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of

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<v Speaker 1>the sick. Un Orthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not

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<v Speaker 1>only permitted, but encouraged. This is a record of that time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the control group. Mm hmmm, Dr Hayes, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in here. We took the liberty of creating a little

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<v Speaker 1>space here. The ground's current has been notified that you're

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<v Speaker 1>conducting a bit of special research tonight. I don't expect

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be disturbed. Where's ms Myers? Oh, Karen was in

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<v Speaker 1>the sleep room, drug induced deep sleep. It's taken longer

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<v Speaker 1>than expected to get her on her feet. When can

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<v Speaker 1>we expect soon? And Charlotte, she's here? Who's that? Dr Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Morgan Hall h h how do you do? However?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to Charlotte, Okay, not really damned if I

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out what's going on with her. She don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what from down. She can't hardly talk. You sure

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<v Speaker 1>did a number on her. Dark I thought we could

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<v Speaker 1>say that she had a mental relapse, left the house,

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<v Speaker 1>was picked up by the police, disoriented, and they brought

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<v Speaker 1>her here for observation. Yes, I suppose that could work,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be messys you remember Dr Godfrey. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we just we want to just weigh our options, see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can determine bacon parton. Excuse me, gentlemen, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this might clarify things. Do you own a house?

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hayes, You everyone a house. I own a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when you own a house, it becomes damaged due

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<v Speaker 1>to your own negligence. In this case, I'm talking specifically

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<v Speaker 1>about your own negligence. Flooded basement, termites, dry rot, what

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<v Speaker 1>have you now? You could spend years, your entire life

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<v Speaker 1>savings trying to fix it up, make it livable again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still with me, yes, But at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>you put down the hammer and the screwdriver. You realize

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<v Speaker 1>it might be better for everyone if you just burn

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<v Speaker 1>the house down and collect the insurance. You're not helping.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it in terms he'll understand. Is he suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>what I think he's suggests Charlotte, God bless her. She

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<v Speaker 1>will never be the same, I mean not after what

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<v Speaker 1>you've not to mention. She has been inside the safe house,

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<v Speaker 1>She's seen the inside of the operation. She was also

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<v Speaker 1>abducted and help host goff Summer. How are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to explicit Listen, I can handle this situation. I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I can personally guarantee that word of this whole incident

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<v Speaker 1>will never spread beyond these walls. You would agree it

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<v Speaker 1>is a mess. It is mess. Yes, must at least

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<v Speaker 1>consider the opportunity we have before us. Opportunity, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>be so hasty has to pass it. Bossum Er Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>please explain to Dr Gottlieb that it's Godfrey godfreed, godfreed

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<v Speaker 1>that that I have a longtime relationship with a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you know the expression terminal studies. It's a concept

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<v Speaker 1>often discussed within our group. We yearn for the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to conduct them, but lament the fact that we are

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden to do so, at least on American soil. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we were planning this Litt'll get together with Mr Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>we realized this is it. We hadn't planned it, but

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to conduct terminal experiments. Is standing right here

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<v Speaker 1>with us terminal experiment. To follow the course of an

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<v Speaker 1>experiment to its absolute and proper conclusion. It is every

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<v Speaker 1>researcher's dream, and whether you deserve it or not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>now yours, summer hill. He isn't suggesting, can't deny. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a logic to it, a convenient solution to our little problem.

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<v Speaker 1>If nothing else, man, both of you, I won't be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the trade. You must you see the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of Charlotte's conditioning is such that she is obedient

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<v Speaker 1>to your command and you're alone. Shall I recite the words?

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<v Speaker 1>What what kind of experiment? What kind of experiment are

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<v Speaker 1>you suggest? Same week before? M hm h. Just through

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<v Speaker 1>here and around this corner. The hospital basement is an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency shelter, and this is a barricaded door. From the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like a sewer cover. If they're watching the doors,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll never see it. Here. Let me help you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>My car is just over there. Let's hurry. H m

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<v Speaker 1>hm hm. Where are we going to the police? Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>not garret. Look, I'm getting you out of here. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I could hide you somewhere on the grounds. The

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<v Speaker 1>Greenhouse maybe, but they are here. We have to go here.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who put you here, the ones who made

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hayes do those terrible things to you, that the

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<v Speaker 1>s I H. E. Morgan Hall. Morgan Hall is here, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Hall, Yes, and others with him. And they have

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<v Speaker 1>one of our other patients, Charlotte. They have her to somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>they have her here and and they intended I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Morgan Hall has Charlotte as a hostage to trade

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I don't know. It's it's it's possible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you need to take me to them. Don't be stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>If you walk into that house, Karen, You're dead. There

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a single doubt in my walk into that house.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen to Charlotte? Everything? I'm trying stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at me? All right? Okay? How many are there? Four?

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<v Speaker 1>Two men from the s G. Morgan Hall and Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Hayes and Charlotte five? Okay? All right? Now what can

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<v Speaker 1>I do? I'm going with you, Padre. It's too dangerous, Karen. Period.

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<v Speaker 1>They might be aren't. Oh they're aren't. How are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'll figure it out. Come on, we

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<v Speaker 1>can do this, okay, ye? Shall I bring her out?

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<v Speaker 1>But by all means, Hello, Charlotte, I am very pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. You are providing us with a rare

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<v Speaker 1>and very special opportunity, and we thank you for the privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, did my My name is Dr Godfried, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would like to ask you to perform some simple

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<v Speaker 1>tasks for us. Would you mind I surrender my will

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<v Speaker 1>to Dr Hayes. I allow Dr Hayes access to all

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<v Speaker 1>my secrets. Is that I get over all control of

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<v Speaker 1>the conditioning. Dr Hayes, would you mind terribly not at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Begin with a pill? Sure? Hello, Charlotte, I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're sifted arte? Am I Charlotte? Or am I Karen?

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Hayes? Which one am I? Which are you? M hm?

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<v Speaker 1>In this cup? There is a pill. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>cyanide pill. Do you know what cyanide is? Poison? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>We I I would like you to swallow this and

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<v Speaker 1>i'd pill even though it will result in your certain death.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you do that? Why? Because I am commanding you?

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<v Speaker 1>Took satisfied? Now? I think she knew it was a placebo?

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<v Speaker 1>How could she know? I could ready bear written on

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way over here. Dr Gottfried, what else

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<v Speaker 1>have you got on that track? Let's see pills? Flame

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<v Speaker 1>you a scalpel. This will leave no room for doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hayes, What am I supposed to do with you her? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Have her? Charlotte? Take that careful? This end is extremely sharp?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Well? Let's go haze quiet? Please, I am

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to take the sharp end of the

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<v Speaker 1>blade and cut yourself with it where anywhere your arm,

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<v Speaker 1>just the neck? Nope, what is she's gonna do it?

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<v Speaker 1>She needs to actually do it? How so? You know how?

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<v Speaker 1>So the inside of the rest, so not the rest? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Because she wants them? She might actually do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the point? Not for her to actually do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're testing her willingness to comply. Isn't that enough? We

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<v Speaker 1>test her willingness to do something unless she actually does it.

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<v Speaker 1>I should slash my wrist. Is that what you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me to do? Lengthwise? And not just the surface, but deep, completely,

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<v Speaker 1>severing the arteries and veins. First, one wrist? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you're telling me to do? Moment of truth, Hayes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is cut your wrists. It's okay, do it? Quickly, Charlotte, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this? That's very tree. She's one of mine. Dr Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've brought Karen. She's still a little unsteady on her feet.

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<v Speaker 1>So so this is Karen? That's her? All right? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure? Jesus? What are they done? Thee doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>anything like her? Just you wait, pardon me? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have the same control over her as you have over Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so. Really, let's give her the knife thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? Hold up a second here, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to kill the other one, fine, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have Karen. She's mine. I don't care. But she don't

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<v Speaker 1>have been useful to you at one time. But just

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<v Speaker 1>put her through. She's not going to be a reliable

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<v Speaker 1>source of anything anymore. Besides, she gave you up. She

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<v Speaker 1>exposed everything, including your name. At this point, she's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but a liability. Face it, Morgan, Time to collect the insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>She's all used up. Let me talk to her. Karen,

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<v Speaker 1>You hear me. You have getten yourself into a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of um as little girl? You know that. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you got to say about all this? If I am

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<v Speaker 1>ever to get better again, I must cooperate with Dr Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>I can trust Dr Hayes. Only when I'm absolutely healthy

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<v Speaker 1>again will I be released. And only by fully cooperating

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<v Speaker 1>with Dr Hayes. You don't have to let them do

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<v Speaker 1>this to you may become well again. Do not confuse

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<v Speaker 1>the issue, Charlotte. Let Karen have the scalpel, please, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let her take it there. So, Karen, what I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>you to do is use the scalpel to cut into

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<v Speaker 1>your wrist, completely, severing the arteries and veins. If that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you dry, you're gonna let her die then has

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<v Speaker 1>a favor to me. At least be a little more

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<v Speaker 1>humane about it. She deserves that much. Summer Hill, give

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<v Speaker 1>me your weapon, buck you no one takes my gun?

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<v Speaker 1>Please enough, gentlemen, I got it, I got it, College moy.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we play it my way? One shell Russian roulette?

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<v Speaker 1>If she pulls the trigger, we consider it a success.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds good to me. No one bullet? What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>And she can hear you, She can calculate the odds

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<v Speaker 1>even in her states. Sure it's a sign of her compliance,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not proof. It is weak. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad science. You got a better idea, Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a better idea. Huh. Six bullets, one in every chamber,

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<v Speaker 1>one pool of the trigger. Absolute proof. I won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's murdered, not murder, it's that's suicide. If it's Dr Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot allow this to happen, can't You can't? What observe? Gentlemen?

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<v Speaker 1>One shell shell number two, three, four, five six. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to let them do this? You broke her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>no good to anyone anymore. Are you satisfied? Satisfied? Carry on? Hayes, Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>give her the gun. It's up to you, Karen ms Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd like you to point the gun at your head

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry, Doctor Hayes. Will you do the honors? Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hayes, take the gun that you're holding, raise it up,

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<v Speaker 1>put the muzzle of the gun under your chin. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all right, Just like that. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the truth quiet. Dr Hayes. Yes, Karen, Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you turned away? M hm? Aren't you going to watch?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch if that's what you wanted. Oh good god,

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<v Speaker 1>damn did you see that that son of a bitch

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<v Speaker 1>did it? I watched you put the bullets in myself,

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<v Speaker 1>avricate daverd dem Witz should have looked more carefully. I

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<v Speaker 1>palmed one bullet, left one chamber empty, the one that mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I learned something from all that. M k

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<v Speaker 1>ultra horseship, sneaky bastard. Is that enough proof for you,

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<v Speaker 1>summer Hill. I want my gun back. One chamber who

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<v Speaker 1>was empty? That's right, sweet thing, I got the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>right here. See. I wasn't about to turn Lucy. You

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<v Speaker 1>you're my price pony. Now how about give him Papa

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<v Speaker 1>the gun? Sure you want the gun? Dr Hayes, Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Myers. That was truly impressive and a plus for

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<v Speaker 1>for both you and the doctor. One you should never

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<v Speaker 1>under Don't shoot, Karen, don't shoot please. I this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>my idea. I only have if you want to shoot someone,

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<v Speaker 1>shoot Hayes. He's the one who did this to what.

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<v Speaker 1>I have plans of my own. Put down my You're right, please,

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<v Speaker 1>boys and theirs, please bergery, Karen, you okay, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about me, Charlotte, She's fine. Hayes. I'm a little shaken up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm fine. That's not what I'm asking. You have

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<v Speaker 1>every right to shoot me. I wouldn't blame you, but

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<v Speaker 1>only by fully cooperating with me. Can you ever hope

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<v Speaker 1>to become well again? Give over all control, Be respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to shoot you. A doctor. God, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of bullets. Oh don't kill him, Please don't kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>Carrol Christ's sake, Charlotte, I'm sorry. Stop apologizing. Karen. You

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<v Speaker 1>better go. You can come to me. No, I'll stay

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<v Speaker 1>here and look after the women on award. Why so

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<v Speaker 1>they can hire a doctor with half your qualifications and

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<v Speaker 1>put him in charge because he's a man. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably can't change that, but I'm going to stay

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<v Speaker 1>here and do what I was trained to do, take

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<v Speaker 1>care of my little award in one little hospital. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse. Now, you please get out of here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with you, Charlotte. You need to stay here owing

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<v Speaker 1>she can come. Charlotte is not like you. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>care of revergery all right. Good morning, ladies. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>good to see you again after my time away from

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<v Speaker 1>the ward. But I know that Gloria and Debbie have

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<v Speaker 1>been taking good care of you, so you were in

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<v Speaker 1>strong capable hands. Dr Hayes's sudden departure has enabled us

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<v Speaker 1>to change the way some things are done here at

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<v Speaker 1>Central State Hospital. I was privileged to sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>the Hospital Council, the Alabama State Board of Health, and

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<v Speaker 1>other government officials to make recommendations about the operation of

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<v Speaker 1>the ward. In return, I have pledged my full cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>to Central State Hospital, where I will remain ward head

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<v Speaker 1>nurse for the foreseeable future. New Ward policies are as follows,

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<v Speaker 1>effective immediately. The e C T treatment cycle is suspended

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<v Speaker 1>pending further evaluation. The use of the sleep room and

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<v Speaker 1>psychic driving are now complete and immediately terminated, and Graph

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<v Speaker 1>will no longer be assisting on the ward. We thank

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<v Speaker 1>him for his months of service. I'm especially pleased to

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<v Speaker 1>announce that the greenhouse is undergoing a full renovation and

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<v Speaker 1>we hope to be able to plant herbs and winter

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<v Speaker 1>greens for the fall. While the greenhouse is being repaired,

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<v Speaker 1>will be organizing groups to return to the orchard to

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<v Speaker 1>try and put it back in working order. These projects

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<v Speaker 1>will be overseen by the women of Ward B. I

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<v Speaker 1>will be looking to you for ideas and can assure

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<v Speaker 1>you that you'll find the investment of your time in

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<v Speaker 1>these projects to be very well rewarded. The new head

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<v Speaker 1>of the program is Dr Hugh Loftus, whom you'll meet

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<v Speaker 1>sometime this week. Dr Loftus advocates pharmacological methods of treatment

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<v Speaker 1>and will be prescribing a regiment of improbamine and other

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<v Speaker 1>antidepressants and sedatives. He has great optimism about this form

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<v Speaker 1>of therapy and seems to believe it will greatly accelerate

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<v Speaker 1>the healing process. Without going into detail, permit me to

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<v Speaker 1>say that sacrifices were made in order to bring about

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<v Speaker 1>these changes. This is a new beginning. I urge you

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<v Speaker 1>not to take these sacrifices for granted. We are extremely

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate that things turned out as well as they have,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's up to us to keep striving and reaching.

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<v Speaker 1>We must look at this change as an opportunity, something

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<v Speaker 1>to build upon, and it is our responsibility to work

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<v Speaker 1>together to make life here, little by little, that much

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<v Speaker 1>better for everyone. It's Monday, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a glorious day. M The Control Group is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of How Stuff Works, written and directed by Brett Wood,

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<v Speaker 1>recorded and mixed by Rob Gal, starring John Schmid's as

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Hayes, Hannah Fearman as Karen Lisa Paulson as Verdree,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Bates as Charlotte, and Daniel May as summer Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Also featuring Andrew Benader, Keith Brooks, Rachel Frawley, Shelby Hoffer,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Kraft, Kelly O'Neill, Joe Sykes, and Troy Willis. Music

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<v Speaker 1>by Rob Gal and Brett Wood. Additional production assistance by

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<v Speaker 1>Paul deckend special thanks to Sherry Larson and executive producers

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Bolan and Josh Clark