Speaker 1: The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.
Speaker 1: It is intended for mature listeners. In the field of
Speaker 1: psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of
Speaker 1: innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled
Speaker 1: to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of
Speaker 1: the sick. Un Orthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not
Speaker 1: only permitted, but encouraged. This is a record of that time.
Speaker 1: This is the control group. Mm hmmm, Dr Hayes, we're
Speaker 1: in here. We took the liberty of creating a little
Speaker 1: space here. The ground's current has been notified that you're
Speaker 1: conducting a bit of special research tonight. I don't expect
Speaker 1: we'll be disturbed. Where's ms Myers? Oh, Karen was in
Speaker 1: the sleep room, drug induced deep sleep. It's taken longer
Speaker 1: than expected to get her on her feet. When can
Speaker 1: we expect soon? And Charlotte, she's here? Who's that? Dr Hayes.
Speaker 1: This is Morgan Hall h h how do you do? However?
Speaker 1: I want to Charlotte, Okay, not really damned if I
Speaker 1: can figure out what's going on with her. She don't
Speaker 1: know what from down. She can't hardly talk. You sure
Speaker 1: did a number on her. Dark I thought we could
Speaker 1: say that she had a mental relapse, left the house,
Speaker 1: was picked up by the police, disoriented, and they brought
Speaker 1: her here for observation. Yes, I suppose that could work,
Speaker 1: but it would be messys you remember Dr Godfrey. Of course,
Speaker 1: we just we want to just weigh our options, see
Speaker 1: if we can determine bacon parton. Excuse me, gentlemen, I
Speaker 1: think this might clarify things. Do you own a house?
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, You everyone a house. I own a house.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you own a house, it becomes damaged due
Speaker 1: to your own negligence. In this case, I'm talking specifically
Speaker 1: about your own negligence. Flooded basement, termites, dry rot, what
Speaker 1: have you now? You could spend years, your entire life
Speaker 1: savings trying to fix it up, make it livable again.
Speaker 1: You're still with me, yes, But at a certain point
Speaker 1: you put down the hammer and the screwdriver. You realize
Speaker 1: it might be better for everyone if you just burn
Speaker 1: the house down and collect the insurance. You're not helping.
Speaker 1: I'm putting it in terms he'll understand. Is he suggesting
Speaker 1: what I think he's suggests Charlotte, God bless her. She
Speaker 1: will never be the same, I mean not after what
Speaker 1: you've not to mention. She has been inside the safe house,
Speaker 1: She's seen the inside of the operation. She was also
Speaker 1: abducted and help host goff Summer. How are we going
Speaker 1: to explicit Listen, I can handle this situation. I can.
Speaker 1: I can personally guarantee that word of this whole incident
Speaker 1: will never spread beyond these walls. You would agree it
Speaker 1: is a mess. It is mess. Yes, must at least
Speaker 1: consider the opportunity we have before us. Opportunity, let's not
Speaker 1: be so hasty has to pass it. Bossum Er Hill,
Speaker 1: please explain to Dr Gottlieb that it's Godfrey godfreed, godfreed
Speaker 1: that that I have a longtime relationship with a family.
Speaker 1: Sure you know the expression terminal studies. It's a concept
Speaker 1: often discussed within our group. We yearn for the opportunity
Speaker 1: to conduct them, but lament the fact that we are
Speaker 1: forbidden to do so, at least on American soil. And
Speaker 1: as we were planning this Litt'll get together with Mr Hall,
Speaker 1: we realized this is it. We hadn't planned it, but
Speaker 1: the opportunity to conduct terminal experiments. Is standing right here
Speaker 1: with us terminal experiment. To follow the course of an
Speaker 1: experiment to its absolute and proper conclusion. It is every
Speaker 1: researcher's dream, and whether you deserve it or not, it's
Speaker 1: now yours, summer hill. He isn't suggesting, can't deny. There's
Speaker 1: a logic to it, a convenient solution to our little problem.
Speaker 1: If nothing else, man, both of you, I won't be
Speaker 1: a part of the trade. You must you see the
Speaker 1: nature of Charlotte's conditioning is such that she is obedient
Speaker 1: to your command and you're alone. Shall I recite the words?
Speaker 1: What what kind of experiment? What kind of experiment are
Speaker 1: you suggest? Same week before? M hm h. Just through
Speaker 1: here and around this corner. The hospital basement is an
Speaker 1: emergency shelter, and this is a barricaded door. From the outside,
Speaker 1: it looks like a sewer cover. If they're watching the doors,
Speaker 1: they'll never see it. Here. Let me help you, okay,
Speaker 1: My car is just over there. Let's hurry. H m
Speaker 1: hm hm. Where are we going to the police? Absolutely
Speaker 1: not garret. Look, I'm getting you out of here. I
Speaker 1: thought I could hide you somewhere on the grounds. The
Speaker 1: Greenhouse maybe, but they are here. We have to go here.
Speaker 1: The people who put you here, the ones who made
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes do those terrible things to you, that the
Speaker 1: s I H. E. Morgan Hall. Morgan Hall is here, Yes,
Speaker 1: Morgan Hall, Yes, and others with him. And they have
Speaker 1: one of our other patients, Charlotte. They have her to somehow,
Speaker 1: they have her here and and they intended I don't
Speaker 1: know Morgan Hall has Charlotte as a hostage to trade
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know. It's it's it's possible. Well,
Speaker 1: then you need to take me to them. Don't be stupid.
Speaker 1: If you walk into that house, Karen, You're dead. There
Speaker 1: isn't a single doubt in my walk into that house.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen to Charlotte? Everything? I'm trying stop?
Speaker 1: Look at me? All right? Okay? How many are there? Four?
Speaker 1: Two men from the s G. Morgan Hall and Dr
Speaker 1: Hayes and Charlotte five? Okay? All right? Now what can
Speaker 1: I do? I'm going with you, Padre. It's too dangerous, Karen. Period.
Speaker 1: They might be aren't. Oh they're aren't. How are you going?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll figure it out. Come on, we
Speaker 1: can do this, okay, ye? Shall I bring her out?
Speaker 1: But by all means, Hello, Charlotte, I am very pleased
Speaker 1: to meet you. You are providing us with a rare
Speaker 1: and very special opportunity, and we thank you for the privilege.
Speaker 1: All right, did my My name is Dr Godfried, and
Speaker 1: we would like to ask you to perform some simple
Speaker 1: tasks for us. Would you mind I surrender my will
Speaker 1: to Dr Hayes. I allow Dr Hayes access to all
Speaker 1: my secrets. Is that I get over all control of
Speaker 1: the conditioning. Dr Hayes, would you mind terribly not at all?
Speaker 1: Begin with a pill? Sure? Hello, Charlotte, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you're sifted arte? Am I Charlotte? Or am I Karen?
Speaker 1: Doctor Hayes? Which one am I? Which are you? M hm?
Speaker 1: In this cup? There is a pill. It is a
Speaker 1: cyanide pill. Do you know what cyanide is? Poison? That's right?
Speaker 1: We I I would like you to swallow this and
Speaker 1: i'd pill even though it will result in your certain death.
Speaker 1: Will you do that? Why? Because I am commanding you?
Speaker 1: Took satisfied? Now? I think she knew it was a placebo?
Speaker 1: How could she know? I could ready bear written on
Speaker 1: it all the way over here. Dr Gottfried, what else
Speaker 1: have you got on that track? Let's see pills? Flame
Speaker 1: you a scalpel. This will leave no room for doubt.
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, What am I supposed to do with you her? Huh?
Speaker 1: Have her? Charlotte? Take that careful? This end is extremely sharp?
Speaker 1: Got it? Well? Let's go haze quiet? Please, I am
Speaker 1: I want you to take the sharp end of the
Speaker 1: blade and cut yourself with it where anywhere your arm,
Speaker 1: just the neck? Nope, what is she's gonna do it?
Speaker 1: She needs to actually do it? How so? You know how?
Speaker 1: So the inside of the rest, so not the rest? Please?
Speaker 1: Why not? Because she wants them? She might actually do it.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the point? Not for her to actually do it.
Speaker 1: We're testing her willingness to comply. Isn't that enough? We
Speaker 1: test her willingness to do something unless she actually does it.
Speaker 1: I should slash my wrist. Is that what you're telling
Speaker 1: me to do? Lengthwise? And not just the surface, but deep, completely,
Speaker 1: severing the arteries and veins. First, one wrist? Is that
Speaker 1: what you're telling me to do? Moment of truth, Hayes,
Speaker 1: it is cut your wrists. It's okay, do it? Quickly, Charlotte, stop,
Speaker 1: who's this? That's very tree. She's one of mine. Dr Hayes.
Speaker 1: I've brought Karen. She's still a little unsteady on her feet.
Speaker 1: So so this is Karen? That's her? All right? Are
Speaker 1: you sure? Jesus? What are they done? Thee doesn't look
Speaker 1: anything like her? Just you wait, pardon me? Do you
Speaker 1: have the same control over her as you have over Charlotte?
Speaker 1: I believe so. Really, let's give her the knife thing.
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? Hold up a second here, you
Speaker 1: want to kill the other one, fine, but you can't
Speaker 1: have Karen. She's mine. I don't care. But she don't
Speaker 1: have been useful to you at one time. But just
Speaker 1: put her through. She's not going to be a reliable
Speaker 1: source of anything anymore. Besides, she gave you up. She
Speaker 1: exposed everything, including your name. At this point, she's nothing
Speaker 1: but a liability. Face it, Morgan, Time to collect the insurance.
Speaker 1: She's all used up. Let me talk to her. Karen,
Speaker 1: You hear me. You have getten yourself into a hell
Speaker 1: of um as little girl? You know that. What do
Speaker 1: you got to say about all this? If I am
Speaker 1: ever to get better again, I must cooperate with Dr Hayes.
Speaker 1: I can trust Dr Hayes. Only when I'm absolutely healthy
Speaker 1: again will I be released. And only by fully cooperating
Speaker 1: with Dr Hayes. You don't have to let them do
Speaker 1: this to you may become well again. Do not confuse
Speaker 1: the issue, Charlotte. Let Karen have the scalpel, please, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Let her take it there. So, Karen, what I'd like
Speaker 1: you to do is use the scalpel to cut into
Speaker 1: your wrist, completely, severing the arteries and veins. If that's
Speaker 1: what you dry, you're gonna let her die then has
Speaker 1: a favor to me. At least be a little more
Speaker 1: humane about it. She deserves that much. Summer Hill, give
Speaker 1: me your weapon, buck you no one takes my gun?
Speaker 1: Please enough, gentlemen, I got it, I got it, College moy.
Speaker 1: Why don't we play it my way? One shell Russian roulette?
Speaker 1: If she pulls the trigger, we consider it a success.
Speaker 1: That sounds good to me. No one bullet? What is that?
Speaker 1: And she can hear you, She can calculate the odds
Speaker 1: even in her states. Sure it's a sign of her compliance,
Speaker 1: but it is not proof. It is weak. It is
Speaker 1: a bad science. You got a better idea, Yes, we
Speaker 1: got a better idea. Huh. Six bullets, one in every chamber,
Speaker 1: one pool of the trigger. Absolute proof. I won't do it.
Speaker 1: It's murdered, not murder, it's that's suicide. If it's Dr Hayes.
Speaker 1: You cannot allow this to happen, can't You can't? What observe? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1: One shell shell number two, three, four, five six. You're
Speaker 1: going to let them do this? You broke her. She's
Speaker 1: no good to anyone anymore. Are you satisfied? Satisfied? Carry on? Hayes, Morgan,
Speaker 1: give her the gun. It's up to you, Karen ms Myers.
Speaker 1: We'd like you to point the gun at your head
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, Doctor Hayes. Will you do the honors? Karen.
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, take the gun that you're holding, raise it up,
Speaker 1: put the muzzle of the gun under your chin. No,
Speaker 1: that's all right, Just like that. I want you to
Speaker 1: pull the truth quiet. Dr Hayes. Yes, Karen, Why are
Speaker 1: you turned away? M hm? Aren't you going to watch?
Speaker 1: I'll watch if that's what you wanted. Oh good god,
Speaker 1: damn did you see that that son of a bitch
Speaker 1: did it? I watched you put the bullets in myself,
Speaker 1: avricate daverd dem Witz should have looked more carefully. I
Speaker 1: palmed one bullet, left one chamber empty, the one that mattered.
Speaker 1: At least I learned something from all that. M k
Speaker 1: ultra horseship, sneaky bastard. Is that enough proof for you,
Speaker 1: summer Hill. I want my gun back. One chamber who
Speaker 1: was empty? That's right, sweet thing, I got the bullet
Speaker 1: right here. See. I wasn't about to turn Lucy. You
Speaker 1: you're my price pony. Now how about give him Papa
Speaker 1: the gun? Sure you want the gun? Dr Hayes, Raw,
Speaker 1: Mr Myers. That was truly impressive and a plus for
Speaker 1: for both you and the doctor. One you should never
Speaker 1: under Don't shoot, Karen, don't shoot please. I this wasn't
Speaker 1: my idea. I only have if you want to shoot someone,
Speaker 1: shoot Hayes. He's the one who did this to what.
Speaker 1: I have plans of my own. Put down my You're right, please,
Speaker 1: boys and theirs, please bergery, Karen, you okay, don't worry
Speaker 1: about me, Charlotte, She's fine. Hayes. I'm a little shaken up,
Speaker 1: but I'm fine. That's not what I'm asking. You have
Speaker 1: every right to shoot me. I wouldn't blame you, but
Speaker 1: only by fully cooperating with me. Can you ever hope
Speaker 1: to become well again? Give over all control, Be respectful.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shoot you. A doctor. God, I'm
Speaker 1: out of bullets. Oh don't kill him, Please don't kill him,
Speaker 1: Carrol Christ's sake, Charlotte, I'm sorry. Stop apologizing. Karen. You
Speaker 1: better go. You can come to me. No, I'll stay
Speaker 1: here and look after the women on award. Why so
Speaker 1: they can hire a doctor with half your qualifications and
Speaker 1: put him in charge because he's a man. You're right,
Speaker 1: I probably can't change that, but I'm going to stay
Speaker 1: here and do what I was trained to do, take
Speaker 1: care of my little award in one little hospital. I'm
Speaker 1: a nurse. Now, you please get out of here. I'm
Speaker 1: going with you, Charlotte. You need to stay here owing
Speaker 1: she can come. Charlotte is not like you. I'll take
Speaker 1: care of revergery all right. Good morning, ladies. It's so
Speaker 1: good to see you again after my time away from
Speaker 1: the ward. But I know that Gloria and Debbie have
Speaker 1: been taking good care of you, so you were in
Speaker 1: strong capable hands. Dr Hayes's sudden departure has enabled us
Speaker 1: to change the way some things are done here at
Speaker 1: Central State Hospital. I was privileged to sit down with
Speaker 1: the Hospital Council, the Alabama State Board of Health, and
Speaker 1: other government officials to make recommendations about the operation of
Speaker 1: the ward. In return, I have pledged my full cooperation
Speaker 1: to Central State Hospital, where I will remain ward head
Speaker 1: nurse for the foreseeable future. New Ward policies are as follows,
Speaker 1: effective immediately. The e C T treatment cycle is suspended
Speaker 1: pending further evaluation. The use of the sleep room and
Speaker 1: psychic driving are now complete and immediately terminated, and Graph
Speaker 1: will no longer be assisting on the ward. We thank
Speaker 1: him for his months of service. I'm especially pleased to
Speaker 1: announce that the greenhouse is undergoing a full renovation and
Speaker 1: we hope to be able to plant herbs and winter
Speaker 1: greens for the fall. While the greenhouse is being repaired,
Speaker 1: will be organizing groups to return to the orchard to
Speaker 1: try and put it back in working order. These projects
Speaker 1: will be overseen by the women of Ward B. I
Speaker 1: will be looking to you for ideas and can assure
Speaker 1: you that you'll find the investment of your time in
Speaker 1: these projects to be very well rewarded. The new head
Speaker 1: of the program is Dr Hugh Loftus, whom you'll meet
Speaker 1: sometime this week. Dr Loftus advocates pharmacological methods of treatment
Speaker 1: and will be prescribing a regiment of improbamine and other
Speaker 1: antidepressants and sedatives. He has great optimism about this form
Speaker 1: of therapy and seems to believe it will greatly accelerate
Speaker 1: the healing process. Without going into detail, permit me to
Speaker 1: say that sacrifices were made in order to bring about
Speaker 1: these changes. This is a new beginning. I urge you
Speaker 1: not to take these sacrifices for granted. We are extremely
Speaker 1: fortunate that things turned out as well as they have,
Speaker 1: but it's up to us to keep striving and reaching.
Speaker 1: We must look at this change as an opportunity, something
Speaker 1: to build upon, and it is our responsibility to work
Speaker 1: together to make life here, little by little, that much
Speaker 1: better for everyone. It's Monday, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: a glorious day. M The Control Group is a production
Speaker 1: of How Stuff Works, written and directed by Brett Wood,
Speaker 1: recorded and mixed by Rob Gal, starring John Schmid's as
Speaker 1: Dr Hayes, Hannah Fearman as Karen Lisa Paulson as Verdree,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Bates as Charlotte, and Daniel May as summer Hill.
Speaker 1: Also featuring Andrew Benader, Keith Brooks, Rachel Frawley, Shelby Hoffer,
Speaker 1: Mary Kraft, Kelly O'Neill, Joe Sykes, and Troy Willis. Music
Speaker 1: by Rob Gal and Brett Wood. Additional production assistance by
Speaker 1: Paul deckend special thanks to Sherry Larson and executive producers
Speaker 1: Ben Bolan and Josh Clark