WEBVTT - Will LHR tech solve the graphics card shortage problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>John van Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and I love all things tech. And Twitter user

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<v Speaker 1>Janusian w O seven asked if I could do an

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<v Speaker 1>episode talking about LHR versus non LHR or f HR

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<v Speaker 1>graphics cards, And that's actually a gateway question to really

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the proof of work style cryptocurrency mining operations.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're gonna talk about what that process actually involves,

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<v Speaker 1>how that process has affected the graphics card industry, what

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<v Speaker 1>a s i C is, what an fpg A is,

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<v Speaker 1>and how companies like Nvidia are trying to respond to

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<v Speaker 1>the issue so that gamers can act they get their

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<v Speaker 1>grubby little hands on graphics cards because, in case you're

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<v Speaker 1>not familiar, uh, graphics cards are sometimes very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get hold of, especially to get hold of at their

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<v Speaker 1>market price. They often end up on secondary markets at

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous markups. So we'll also touch on some other elements,

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<v Speaker 1>like the proposed stopping the grinch bought acts in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, But first let's talk about what it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to mine some cryptocurrency that uses the proof of work approach. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, what the heck does mining mean? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency is digital, right, It's just a digital record when

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<v Speaker 1>you get down to it. So when you really boil

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<v Speaker 1>it all down, you ultimately get to machine language of

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<v Speaker 1>zeros and once. How the heck do you mind zeros

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<v Speaker 1>and ones? Well, since the whole intended point of Bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, kind of the the cryptocurrency that

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<v Speaker 1>really started at all, at least as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>current craze is concerned. If you assume that the creators

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin were being sincere they wanted it to perform

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<v Speaker 1>as a currency, well, that means you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of systems in place in order to make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen. So let's take Bitcoin as our example. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>just to be clear, the issue with graphics cards doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>relate to bitcoin. Bitcoin has outgrown graphics cards. When we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about cryptocurrency, mining and graphics cards, we're more frequently

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<v Speaker 1>talking about ethereum, not Bitcoin. But we'll get more into

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<v Speaker 1>that later in this episode. But Bitcoin is the easy

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<v Speaker 1>one to talk about, right because that's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has heard about. A lot of people have heard

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<v Speaker 1>about ethereum, but not as many as have heard about bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>So in order for bitcoin to work, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have a record or ledger of who has bitcoin and

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<v Speaker 1>who is transferring bitcoin to whom. So without a verifiable

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<v Speaker 1>record of all the bitcoin that are in circulation, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be possible for someone to duplicate a bitcoin and

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<v Speaker 1>to spend it repeatedly. Right, It's just a digital file.

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<v Speaker 1>You can copy digital files. I'm sure you've done this

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of times, whether it's to copy a file from

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<v Speaker 1>your hard drive to go also onto a network drive

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe onto some form of physical media, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're just copying a file on your own computer multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times for some reason. I don't I'm not judging you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Duplicating files is easy, Like it's just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>clicks on your mouth, right, So that would mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a way to counteract that for

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<v Speaker 1>digital currency, otherwise you could just print your own money essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>And they have to be able to prevent people from

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<v Speaker 1>copying or counterfeit bitcoin, otherwise the whole system would collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>So one element that helps with this is a distributed

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<v Speaker 1>ledger of all transactions. To be involved in bitcoin mining,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to connect to the Bitcoin network, and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>connected to this network can see a shared ledger that

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<v Speaker 1>records each and every transaction dating back to the origin

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin itself. Actually, the transactions propagate outward from their

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<v Speaker 1>point of origin throughout the network. It can take a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of time, as much as fourteen seconds. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that is an issue that is a limiting factor for

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin in particular. But it's a that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>matter for another podcast because it goes a little beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what we want to talk about today. So Bitcoin protects

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<v Speaker 1>itself in part by having this ledger visible to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the system, so that it would be pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>impossible for someone to to cheat the system because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can see the history of transactions. It gets more technical

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<v Speaker 1>than that, but we'll leave it here. However, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a way to verify transactions to authorize payments.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you're going to a brick and mortar store.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just like a an example from everyday life.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're going to a store physically yourself, and you

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<v Speaker 1>fill your shopping card up with whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're buying, and you're going to use a credit card

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for it. So when you go up to

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<v Speaker 1>the cashier and you swipe your credit card or inserted

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<v Speaker 1>into the machine, whatever it is, the system does a

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<v Speaker 1>quick check to make certain that you have the available

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<v Speaker 1>credit in order to make that purchase. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the point of sale at the cashier would send an

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<v Speaker 1>electronic request to the appropriate bank or processor for that

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<v Speaker 1>particular merchant via a phone line or an internet connection.

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<v Speaker 1>So the request goes from the merchant to a bank.

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<v Speaker 1>That bank then forwards the details of the credit card

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<v Speaker 1>to a credit card network like Visa for example, that

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<v Speaker 1>can then clear the request to send a message on

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever bank issued the credit card, and it's this

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<v Speaker 1>bank that authorizes payment if you have the available credit

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<v Speaker 1>if everything lines up. In other words, so if it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the credit card is is a valid card

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<v Speaker 1>and that there is UH credit on it. In the

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<v Speaker 1>case of filling out stuff online, it would check things

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the building address that you filled

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<v Speaker 1>out matches the one that's in the records, all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So, assuming everything is cool, the issuing

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<v Speaker 1>bank since the approval backed down the same chain, so

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<v Speaker 1>the approval goes to the credit card network. The credit

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<v Speaker 1>card network then sends that over to the merchant's bank.

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<v Speaker 1>The merchants bank then sends it to the merchant and

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<v Speaker 1>says transaction complete. The money has been transferred from the

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<v Speaker 1>airline of credit to you, and the merchant then prints

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<v Speaker 1>up a slip that's usually either you sign it or

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a you know, receipt. UH. This whole process

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<v Speaker 1>takes very little time typically with the classic system. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got incredibly fast communication systems, so assuming everything's working it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's rarely much of a delay. You might be standing

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<v Speaker 1>there for a couple of seconds while you're waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the approval to go through, but it doesn't take long

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<v Speaker 1>at all. UH. There's also transaction fees that are involved

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<v Speaker 1>with this. That's important too because it's going to play

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<v Speaker 1>into cryptocurrency. So with this approach, merchants who accept credit

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<v Speaker 1>cards also have to pay transaction fees on every sale

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<v Speaker 1>that involves a credit card. UH. It's usually a small

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of whatever the overall price is for the items,

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<v Speaker 1>and merchants typically seek out the cheapest available processing fees,

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<v Speaker 1>or they might also you know, increase the price of

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<v Speaker 1>their products to help compensate for that expense, or they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do both. So credit cards have these centralized authorities, the

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<v Speaker 1>issuing banks. They ultimately authorized transactions and they verify that

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<v Speaker 1>money has changed hands. So again, in this case, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a line of credit issued to the card

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<v Speaker 1>holder and then transferred over to the merchant that amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money. But one of the big selling points of

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrencies like bitcoin is that there is no centralized financial

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<v Speaker 1>authority at the middle of all this. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>issuing bank, but you still have to verify transactions otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>we get back to that problem that someone could duplicate

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency and crash the whole system. So the way bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>does this is it groups transactions together in blocks, and

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<v Speaker 1>these blocks form a chain, a block chain if you were,

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<v Speaker 1>and bitcoins blocks currently have a limit of one megabyte

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<v Speaker 1>in size. That's how big a blockchain block in bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>can be. In twenty nineteen, a simple transaction from one

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin wallet to another would take up around around the bytes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do some math and you take one megabyte

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<v Speaker 1>and you divide it by three eight bytes, you end

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<v Speaker 1>up with around two thousand, seven hundred and sixty transactions.

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<v Speaker 1>A little less than that, actually, uh, that can fit

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<v Speaker 1>in one block of the Bitcoin blockchain, so two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>seven sixty or so uh per block. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this leads us to some serious limitations of bitcoin when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to actually using it as a currency, but

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<v Speaker 1>again that's the story for another matter, another podcast episode. So,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the bitcoin system currently works is that a

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<v Speaker 1>block of transactions are to join the chain every ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So really the goal here is that every ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>you add a block, whether it's full of transactions or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if let's say it's a super slow time

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not that many transactions, you still need to

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<v Speaker 1>add a block every ten minutes, because that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way the system works. So you have all these computers

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<v Speaker 1>that connect to the bitcoin network, right these are uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have all these transactions that are waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for verification. So every time a bitcoin has changed hands,

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<v Speaker 1>as it were, all of that has to be verified.

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<v Speaker 1>So the computers that are connected to the bitcoin system,

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<v Speaker 1>the miners, in other words, when you really break it down,

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<v Speaker 1>their auditors. They are auditing the list of transactions to

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<v Speaker 1>verify that they are all valid transactions, that in fact

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<v Speaker 1>the entity that transferred bitcoin to another entity, that all

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<v Speaker 1>of that is accurate and valid that in fact there

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<v Speaker 1>was that bitcoin to transfer, that the wallet it came

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<v Speaker 1>from is valid, and the wallet it's going to is valid.

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<v Speaker 1>The computers connected to the bitcoin system are all trying

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<v Speaker 1>to process this at the same time. They're taking on

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<v Speaker 1>a role that would normally go to a centralized bank authority,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of a merchant paying a transaction fee of

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<v Speaker 1>the auditors, you've got the bitcoin system itself releasing some

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin into circulation, and that that circulation goes straight to

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<v Speaker 1>whichever auditor is able to verify the transactions first. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the mining element here, So when you mine bitcoin, what

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<v Speaker 1>really means is that you were able to validate a

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<v Speaker 1>block of transactions before anyone else could. Now, interestingly, bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>mining will only last as long as there are bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>left to be mined. But there is a finite amount

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin. There didn't have to be, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have created a system where there is no limit,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not how bitcoin was designed. So there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a cap of twenty one million bitcoin, and once they

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<v Speaker 1>are all mined, there will be no new bitcoin going

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<v Speaker 1>into circulation. Interestingly, the number of bitcoin released upon verifying

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<v Speaker 1>a block of transactions goes down by half every two

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<v Speaker 1>d thousand blocks, which because a new block has added

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<v Speaker 1>every ten minutes or so, we can essentially say that

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<v Speaker 1>around four years, you see the number of bitcoins released

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<v Speaker 1>per block, mind go get cut in half. So when

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin first launched back in two thousand nine, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to mind a block of transactions, that would get

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<v Speaker 1>you fifty bitcoins. So if your computer was the first

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<v Speaker 1>one to mind it, you got fifty bitcoin. Now, back then,

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins were worth a fraction of a dollar, right, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin was nothing back then. Today a single bitcoin is

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<v Speaker 1>worth more than fifty seven thousand dollars at least as

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<v Speaker 1>I record this episode, that's where the value is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>above fifty seven thousand dollars per bitcoin. So imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to get fifty bitcoin for mining a block.

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<v Speaker 1>That means, assuming that the value was the same back

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<v Speaker 1>then it wasn't, but let's say it was. That would

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<v Speaker 1>mean you would pull in two point eight five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars just for verifying block of transactions, and another block

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<v Speaker 1>would join every ten minutes. So let's say that you

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<v Speaker 1>had built out the best mining system to verify transactions,

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<v Speaker 1>and if bitcoin had been as valuable back then as

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<v Speaker 1>they are today, then you would soon be a billionaire, except,

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<v Speaker 1>of course bitcoin weren't worth nearly as much back then.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, people would spend thousands of bitcoin just to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a pizza. It's a very different world. But the

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<v Speaker 1>number of bitcoin released per block has gone down since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine. In it was twenty five per block,

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<v Speaker 1>so went from fifty to twenty five. It reduced again

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve point five bitcoin per block. Mind today it's

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<v Speaker 1>at six point to five bitcoin per block. That process

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<v Speaker 1>will continue until nearly all bitcoin or mind. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you're having and having and having means that eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a point where it's like, not all

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin will actually be mine. There'll be some that will

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<v Speaker 1>rum unmind, but it's like a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction,

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<v Speaker 1>right um. But that means that once you get to

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<v Speaker 1>that point and there are no more bitcoin to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>then auditors will not be paid out in mind bitcoins

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<v Speaker 1>because they're they're all gone. Instead, they'll be paid in

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<v Speaker 1>transaction fees, very similar to the way that merchants have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay transaction fees on credit card purchases in their establishments. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole system of bitcoin, where we're only looking at

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<v Speaker 1>transaction fees. That's the good ways off. In the future,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't be tillt before all the bitcoin or mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So for now, the promise of mind. Bitcoin provides an

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<v Speaker 1>incentive to miners to dedicate their computer processing power to

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<v Speaker 1>verify blocks of transactions. And when I say computer processing power,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about the desktop or a laptop. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about specialized machines that are drawing enormous amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>power in order to process this as fast as possible. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the mining process fulfills some very important functions. It creates

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<v Speaker 1>a predictable rate of adding more bitcoin to circulation. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that every ten minutes we're gonna get six point

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<v Speaker 1>to five more bitcoin, at least until we hit that

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<v Speaker 1>next milestone, in which case it will be had yet again.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also brings in auditors to perform the task

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<v Speaker 1>of verifying transactions, which is necessary for the system to

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<v Speaker 1>really work alright, So mining ultimately boils down to someone

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<v Speaker 1>using a computer or these days bloods of specialized computers

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<v Speaker 1>to comb through a block of transactions and verify them

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<v Speaker 1>before anyone else does. And then the winning computer system

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<v Speaker 1>gets some bitcoin for their trouble. But when I say,

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<v Speaker 1>verifying it's kind of misleading, like that's one way to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. But really, what the computers are ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>doing is trying to come up with a hash value

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<v Speaker 1>that most closely matches one created by the bitcoin system.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to talk about hash values. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this does tie in to those LHR graphics cards. So

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<v Speaker 1>hash values are really good at establishing the identity of

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<v Speaker 1>something like say a file. Uh so this gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little confusing, but just stay with me, all right. So ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a computer file, just like any other computer

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<v Speaker 1>information is data that you can ultimately reduce down to

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<v Speaker 1>binary to zeros and ones using a hashing algorithm, which

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially a set of rules that say this is

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<v Speaker 1>the process of operations you should perform on any incoming data. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what an algorithm does, is just algorithms are just instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>So a hashing algorithm is a specific type of algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>where a machine takes this binary data these zeros and

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<v Speaker 1>ones that represent a file, performs some mathematical operations on

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<v Speaker 1>that data and generates a hash value. Hash value is

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<v Speaker 1>a fixed length value, and it can you know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's hexadecimal, it can contain numbers and and other characters

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Um, so a lot of hashing algorithms convert

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<v Speaker 1>data into hexadecimal values. I'm not gonna go deep into

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<v Speaker 1>hexadecimal here. The important bit is that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>fixed lengths set of values. That means you have a

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<v Speaker 1>fixed number of characters that will always appear as a

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<v Speaker 1>hash value no matter what you fed into the UH.

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<v Speaker 1>The algorithm is going to produce an answer or a

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<v Speaker 1>result that is that number of characters long. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it's sixty four characters long. That means you feed

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<v Speaker 1>a big file into this algorithm, it will generate a

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<v Speaker 1>result that's sixty four characters long as a hash value.

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<v Speaker 1>You feed a tiny file into the same algorithm, it

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<v Speaker 1>will also generate a different sixty four character lengths UH

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<v Speaker 1>hash value. So another words, just looking at the hash values,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way for you to tell what the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the file was, let alone the content of that file,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of file it was. But it will, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's used on a lot of security measures

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<v Speaker 1>right because just glancing at it doesn't give you enough

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<v Speaker 1>information for you to draw any conclusions about what was

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<v Speaker 1>fed into the algorithm. So again, let's say that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got an algorithm that puts hash values that are sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four characters in length. It doesn't matter how you know

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<v Speaker 1>how large the file is, if it's huge or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's tiny, you still get a sixty four character length answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will always get that answer based upon the input.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I have file A and I feed it

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<v Speaker 1>through the algorithm a hundred times, I will get one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred identical hash values. But if I feed file B

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<v Speaker 1>into the algorithm a hundred times, I'll get that one

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<v Speaker 1>same times, but it will be different from file A.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like, the hash values are unique to whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>input is. So hashes are also not reversible. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>get a hash value and then magically reverse it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the original file. So if you sent me a hash,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do anything with it other than really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and compare it against hash values that

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I can't. I can't reverse it and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you took a copy of pac Man and you hashed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know. So what you can do is you

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<v Speaker 1>can use hash values to verify that a file, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>that someone has is the exact same file that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You both use the same algorithm. They hash their file,

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<v Speaker 1>you hash your file. They send you the hash value,

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<v Speaker 1>not the file itself, and you compare it to your

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<v Speaker 1>hash value. If it's the same, then you say, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>we both have the same file. That's a way of

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<v Speaker 1>verifying that someone is who they say they are. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you ask them to prove that they are

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<v Speaker 1>who they claim to be, and they send you a

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<v Speaker 1>hash value that could only come from them because it's

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<v Speaker 1>unique to something they possess, and you have a record

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<v Speaker 1>you have like a database that matches this, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can say, ah, ha I got it. You're in Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's basics for hash values. We're gonna take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break because I've been going on a long time here.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I'll talk a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about hash values before we move on. Okay, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>before the break about hash values and how you can

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<v Speaker 1>use them for verification processes where you don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>the content that was in the original piece. Necessarily you

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<v Speaker 1>just can compare hash values to each other. Well, hashes

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<v Speaker 1>are used in lots of other ways. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>some anti virus databases will take known malware and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>create a hash value from the malware, and then anti

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<v Speaker 1>virus saw where will have a whole database of all

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<v Speaker 1>these hash values, and the antivirus software will search a

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<v Speaker 1>suspected infected computer system and hash the various files that

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<v Speaker 1>are on the computer system, compare it against that database

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<v Speaker 1>of known malware hash values, and if it finds matches,

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<v Speaker 1>it says, aha, your computer has been infected by the

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<v Speaker 1>specific types of malware. All right, but let's let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to bitcoin and talk about what hash values mean

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So, for each block of transactions in a

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin blockchain, the bitcoin system itself assigns a sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>digit hexadecimal hash, and the auditors the miners are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to generate a hash that is closest to the one

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<v Speaker 1>provided by the system without going over. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>miners that joined the system, the more possible solutions there

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<v Speaker 1>will be to the hash value. So as more auditors join,

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<v Speaker 1>as more computational processing power is added to the Bitcoin system,

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<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin system increases the difficulty of the guessing game

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<v Speaker 1>problem that all the computers are engaged in, and that

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<v Speaker 1>means you have to have even more computing power if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be the one to first mind a

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<v Speaker 1>block of transactions. Now, computing power is expensive, both to

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<v Speaker 1>acquire all the pieces for the computing power and to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain it. Right, you have to pay for specialized hardware

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't, then others will. Then you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>left behind. Right the older stuff that you're using won't

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<v Speaker 1>be up to task. It would be like if you

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to enter a street race and you were

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<v Speaker 1>driving like an old Volvo and everyone else is driving supercars.

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<v Speaker 1>You would do it doesn't matter how good a driver

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<v Speaker 1>you are, your your equipment just won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep pace and uh. And since bitcoin mining is effectively

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<v Speaker 1>a race to guess a very complicated number as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, being left behind means you're stuck with expensive

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<v Speaker 1>equipment and a reward. So now you've got you know, costs,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not bringing money into offset those costs. You

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<v Speaker 1>would be out of business. So there becomes this escalation

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<v Speaker 1>among bitcoin miners to get hold of the most advanced

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<v Speaker 1>machines possible that can work at screamingly fast rates in

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to mind blocks before anyone else can so.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, a block is worth around three fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. I got that by multiplying fifty seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per bitcoin times six point two five bitcoins per block,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get a new block mind every ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So a day has one thousand, four hundred forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means there are one hundred forty four ten

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<v Speaker 1>minute blocks per day. So let's let's say hypothetically you

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<v Speaker 1>create the best killer mining system and you improbably managed

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<v Speaker 1>to beat out everyone else in the world for every

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<v Speaker 1>single block in one day. That would mean one day's

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<v Speaker 1>mining would let you fifty one million dollars at the

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<v Speaker 1>current value of bitcoin per day, fifty one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a heck of an incentive. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>why you hear about huge bitcoin mining operations that co

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<v Speaker 1>locate with power plants, because to run those machines, you

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<v Speaker 1>need a lot of electricity, and electricity costs money. Right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're paying for your electricity, that bill

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<v Speaker 1>is an operating expense you have to factor in. And

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<v Speaker 1>while you could theoretically net around fifty one million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day, in reality, you're you are competing against lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other big bitcoin mining operations around the world. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to succeed with every single block, So bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>mining becomes a balancing act. You know, can you make

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<v Speaker 1>more money then you have to spend to cover the

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<v Speaker 1>costs of operation. Can you make a profit? So for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of miners, the answer is yes. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the value of bitcoin is so high that it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>going to these extremes to try and go after it

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<v Speaker 1>because the payoff is better than what the costs are. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about how bitcoin mining involves lots of computers

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<v Speaker 1>all racing to guess the number that will produce a

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<v Speaker 1>hash that is equal to or less than the hash

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<v Speaker 1>value that the bitcoin system generates. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into further detail with that because, um this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be super long already. But but the

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<v Speaker 1>important part here is that, you know, the more miners

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<v Speaker 1>that join the system with more computing power makes these

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<v Speaker 1>problems get even more difficult, which means the bitcoin miners

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<v Speaker 1>have to feed even more computational power into the system

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to be competitive. It becomes this vicious

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<v Speaker 1>cycle that will continue as long as the value of

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<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin is greater than the cost sunk to chase.

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<v Speaker 1>After that bitcoin. Right, if you get to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where the value of the bitcoin is lower than that,

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously people are going to ease off because otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you just lose money. Now this we'll switch gears now

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about graphics cards. So again, graphics cards are

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<v Speaker 1>more relevant to ethereum mining than bitcoin mining. Uh. Ethereum

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<v Speaker 1>one point oh follows a similar approach to bitcoin, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a proof of work system. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I focused on bitcoin first because a lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about with bitcoin also relates to ethereum one

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<v Speaker 1>point oh. Alright, So when it comes to computer processors,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of different kinds. So your basic

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<v Speaker 1>central processing unit or CPU is a microchip that has

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<v Speaker 1>one or more core is dedicated to executing commands operations

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, on input data. You know, numbers. So

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<v Speaker 1>a very oversimplified approach might say, like, take whatever data

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and then add this specific number to that

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<v Speaker 1>incoming data and produce a result. That would be a

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<v Speaker 1>very very very simple operation. Right now, your basic CPU

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<v Speaker 1>has to be flexible. It needs to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>process information for lots of different kinds of programs. It

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be able to allow anything from a spreadsheet program,

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<v Speaker 1>to a media player, to a web browser, to complex

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<v Speaker 1>computer simulations to run on a machine. These are general

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<v Speaker 1>purpose microchips. In other words, they need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do pretty much anything. But there's a trade off

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<v Speaker 1>with this. While a general purpose processor can pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, that doesn't mean it can perform any specific

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<v Speaker 1>task better than a microchip that is only nt to

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<v Speaker 1>handle that specific task. So, in other words, your basic

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>CPU lacks optimization for particular tasks because the CPU has

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<v Speaker 1>to be concerned with everything, not just that one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Enter the graphics processing unit or GPU. When these emerged

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of decades ago, the whole intent was to

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>offload calculations relating to computer graphics that would normally go

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to the CPU and instead redirect those to the GPU,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>so the CPU would be freed up to work on

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>other stuff, and the GPU would be optimized to do

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the kind of work needed to produce more sophisticated graphics.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>So one element that you find in processors is called

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>an a l U or arithmetic logic unit. GPU cards

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>typically have a lot of a l U s, and

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's this specific element that becomes really useful when you're

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to perform calculations to guess the right hash value

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to mine a block of cryptocurrency that's

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>on a proof of work style blockchain. The GPUs are

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>great at performing repetitive tasks at very high speed. That's

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>what they were built to do. So Bitcoin miners originally

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>sought out powerful graphics cards to build bitcoin mining rigs.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh And there are some cryptocurrency mining rigs no longer

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:27.239
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin Bitcoin outgrew graphics cards, and again we'll get to that.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>But like ethereum, mining rigs that are essentially a computer

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>case that holds as many graphics cards as the motherboard

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>can support. And typically these are part of larger networks

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of similar systems, all with similar buildouts. So you end

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>up with a very high demand for graphics cards to

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>mine ethereum. Moreover, as more miners jump on to try

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and mine you know, ethereum or bitcoin, it creates a

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>demand for the fastest machines on market. So it's not

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>just good enough to have a ton of graphics cards.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's ethereum, it would be graphics cards. It's

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>not just good enough to have a lot of graphics cards.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You need graphics cards that work at the best rates,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>at the best efficiencies possible. You're possibly modifying them a bit.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're new to it, you might over clock your GPUs.

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>That means make them run faster than they were meant

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to run uh in order to try and process this

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>information faster. But interestingly enough, experienced miners typically won't over

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>clock their their GPUs. In fact, they might underclock the

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>GPU because they're more concerned with efficiency than they are

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>with speed, so they'll still get really fast GPUs, but

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>then they'll reduce the amount of power going to the

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>GPU to make them more efficient. Now, this means that

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>crypto minors have a big incentive to rush out and

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>grab all the best graphics cards that are available, So

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>when a new graphics it hits the market, crypto minors

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>are among the most let's say, enthusiastic customers. Meanwhile, graphics

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>card companies are producing products based on their own manufacturing capacity.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>In other words, you can't make more cards than what

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>your facility can produce, right, I mean that just makes sense.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You can't, like, if you're limited to cards per day,

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't magically produce five hundred cards in a day.

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So we often see a problem where the demand for

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a new graphics card is way higher than the supply

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and the rate of production is such that bitcoin miners

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>will keep on scooping up as many cards as they

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>can until something better comes along, and then they repeat

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the whole process. Meanwhile, gamers find themselves struggling to track

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>down a new graphics card. This also creates a pretty

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>vicious aftermarket for graphics cards, because there are profiteers who

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 1>will rush out and buy graphics cards as fast as

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>they possibly can in an effort not to join bitcoin mining.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Like they're not necessarily interested in mining bitcoin themselves instaid,

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>what they want to do is sell off the cards

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they have bought at an incredible markup, like on eBay

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. These folks are exacerbating an already tough problem,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and they probably don't really care if the person who's

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>buying from them is a gamer or if it's a

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>crypto minor. They're just looking to make a profit. And

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>this brings us to the stopping the Grinch Act proposal

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. See One way to get an

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>edge on others is to develop automated scripts or bots

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that shop for specific items faster than any human could

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>possibly manage. So the idea is that you design a

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>bot to go after something specific, like the latest graphics

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>card from a specific manufacturer, and you buy up all

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the available stock as fast as you possibly can. Now,

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're doing it because you're a bitcoin miner and

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you just want to dedicate that to your sister. Stim

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're doing it because you're a profiteer and you

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just plan to sell the cards to whomever wants them

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>on the aftermarket for a huge markup. Either way, you're

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>beating regular human customers to the punch. Well. In twenty nineteen,

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>several US politicians introduced proposed legislation that would make it

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>illegal for people to use those kinds of automated scripts

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>or bots to get the jump on normal retail customers.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And they call it the Stopping the Grinch Act, because

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the Grinch is a character from Dr SEUs who sneaks

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>into a town on Christmas Eve to try and ruin Christmas,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>which partly involves him stealing all the presents in the town.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>While the two thousand nineteen version of this legislation stalled

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>out in committees in Congress, but that was back in

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. That was before, problems like the pandemic and

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the semiconductor chip shortage really made things worse now because

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of supply chain woes and shortages. The fear is that

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>people using these automated scripts will make a tough situation

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>even worse for millions of people who are just trying

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to do stuff like buy some gifts for their loved

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>ones for the holidays. So, should this legislation pass, the

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Federal Trade Commission or FTC in the United States will

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>be in charge of enforcing this law, and the hope

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>is that this would create a more even playing field

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>for everyone seeking certain retail items without fear that some

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>automated bot is gonna scoop all of them up before

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you even have a chance to go to the store virtually,

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and we'll end up scalping these at a much higher

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>cost down the road on other you know, sites like eBay.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we might just see this legislation dying committee

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the way it did the first time. Okay, I'm gonna

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>take a break here. Then then we're gonna join in

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>with some more information about crypto mining and graphics cards.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>But first I'm gonna catch my breath. Okay, let's talk

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>about the issue of ethereum miners going after graphics cards. Now,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 1>according to the John Petty Research Group, crypto miners bought

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>up of all GPUs all GPUs in the first quarter

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of one, so one quarter of all GPUs on the

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>market were claimed before gamers could get a chance at them. Now,

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that might sound like a bummer, but not too bad.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that means three quarters of GPUs we're not

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>claimed by crypto miners like ethereum miners, right, But then

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you have to remember that crypto miners were targeting the

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>best of the best, the highest end cards, specific graphics cards,

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>which meant that a lot of gamers were left with

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>cards that weren't at the highest of performance levels. And

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not that much fun when you're a gamer and

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to really invest in building out a good

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>gaming PC. Then you find out you're gonna have to

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>settle for less and the best because there's just none

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of the cards you want are available. Also, sometimes miners

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>will choose to sell off used GPUs. This could happen

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>for lots of different reasons. Let's say that the value

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of a certain cryptocurrency like Ether goes down. Well, if

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it goes down enough, it could get to a point

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>where the cost of operation is so high that it's

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>no longer profitable to run a large scale mining operation.

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd be paying more money to run things

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>than you would be making in mining. So that's one

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>time when people might start selling off used GPUs. Or

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it might be that the miner is changing things up,

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe they want to switch to a different GPU, or

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe even the different system altogether, And so occasionally miners

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>will sell off the GPUs they had been using to

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>mine crypto. So the question is should you buy a

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>used GPU from a mining operation, Well, you gotta keep

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in mind that those GPUs have been run for twenty

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>four hours a day, seven days a week, for however

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>long the operation was relying on them. Now, it's possible

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that a used GPU will be in good condition and

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that you'll be able to run it just fine, and

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that there won't be any appreciable difference in its useful lifespan. However,

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it's also possible that the mining operation was cramming as

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>many components together as they could in order to conserve space,

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and if the card received insufficient cooling, because these cards

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>do generate a lot of heat, and heat is bad

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for electronics, right, Well, not only are these cards generating

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of heat individually, they're packed in with other

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>cards that are also generating heat. So these these bitcoin

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>mining operations get real hot if they are not sufficiently

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>cooled down while then those cards could be damaged right

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>just from being exposed to heat for so long. So

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that's something you need to look out for. It's possible

0:37:55.680 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that used GPU from a mining operation really doesn't operate

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>at what it should anyway, because just the wear and

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>tear and the heat wore it down. So it really

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>all depends on the mining operation and how it was

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>set up and how it was maintained. Also, you're not

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>likely to see a big mark down in price. Yeah,

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a used GPU and it was used for months,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean it's going to be cheap. Doesn't

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>mean it's even gonna be less than what the market

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>prices for those cards, because they are still in such

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>high demand. I mean, GPUs are are in such high

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>demand that even a used one will end up being

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>valuable enough that people are willing to pay market price

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>or higher than if it were brand new, because again

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that the supply is so low compared to the demand. Uh,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>this is dependent upon the actual card and the region

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you're in and all that kind of stuff. But yeah,

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a harsh reality. Now I've said it a few

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 1>times in this podcast, but when it comes to graphics

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>cards used in crypto mining, we're typically talking about Ethereum

0:38:55.680 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and Ether rather than Bitcoin. Ethereum has some similar at

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 1>east to bitcoin, but there are also a few major differences.

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>For one, Bitcoin, as I mentioned earlier, has a cap

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of twenty one million bitcoin. There will never be more

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>than twenty one million bitcoin in circulation. Ethereum does not

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have a cap. There are actually more than a hundred

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>million Ether coins out there today and there's no cap

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>on supply. Bitcoin's value, as I record this podcast, is

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>more than fifty seven thousand dollars per coin. One Ether

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>is equal to around four thousand, seven hundred dollars. Now

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>four thousand, seven hundred dollars. That's a lot of money,

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's less than one tenth of what you would

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>see with bitcoin, right and you only get to Ether

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>per mind block. Remember right now, with Bitcoin it's six

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>point two five bitcoin per block. Ether you only get

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 1>to per block. However, you can also mind blocks more

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>frequently in Ether than you can with Bitcoin, because with

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin it's unblocked every ten minutes. With Ether it's one

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>block every fifteen seconds on average. So you do get

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>smaller payouts per block with a bit more than nine

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>grand in value of ether mind per block, but you

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>also have way more blocks mind per day, so it

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>is a different beast from Bitcoin. Graphics cards are still

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the rage when it comes to mining Ether, but for

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin many miners have moved on to heavier artillery in

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the form of a S I C S or a

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>SEX If you prefer and FP G A S or FOOTCAS.

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess you don't. I guess you don't actually pronounce

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the the initialism. Okay, So, and a s I C

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is an application specific integrated circuit. So remember how I

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>said CPUs are general purpose machines and GPUs are more

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>specialized machines. Well, the A s I C is even

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>more specialized than a GPU. This is a cir it

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that has been hard coded to do a specific task.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It cannot do other stuff because that's just not how

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the circuit is wired. So an A s I C

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>can be optimized to do something ultra specific and do

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it wicked fast. A lot of bitcoin miners have spent

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of money developing A s I C machines.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>They are more expensive than your typical computers are, and

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>they have finally tuned these A s I C machines

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>specifically to generating those hash value guesses in order to

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>mine bitcoin. It's not something that would necessarily be economical

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>for ether mining because again, the scale of the payout

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>is different, so you wouldn't necessarily use these to mine ether.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>There'd be too expensive to acquire and maintain, you wouldn't

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>get enough of a payout for it to be worthwhile.

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>But for Bitcoin it makes total sense because of the

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>scale of the value. As for f p g A,

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that stands for fuel programmable gate array, this is another

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>type of integrated circuit. It is very similar to a

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>S I C with one major difference, and that is

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>with a s I C, what you have is what

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you got right. It's kind of like the old style

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>video game cartridges. You can't write to it, you can't

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>change it. You're limited to whatever was hard coded programmed

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on the circuit board itself. But an f p G

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>A is at least slightly alterable, slightly programmable so you

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>can make changes to it. Only recently have fpg as

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>started to reach a level of performance that puts them

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>on par with A S I C systems. Before that,

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>they were considered much slower and less efficient than A

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>S I C s, so you didn't see them as

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>much in bitcoin mining operations. That's starting to change, by

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the way, the bitcoin situation eventually will change dramatically, because

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>either we'll get to a point where the number of

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin your that you mind per block is gonna drop

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to a level where it just doesn't make financial sense

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to run expensive operations, or we'll get to a point

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>where the miners all become just auditors because there's no

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>more bitcoin to mind. They're only paid in transaction fees,

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and it wouldn't make sense to run these super huge

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin mining operations anyway, and they'll all fade out. So

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say temporary problem, because it's a problem

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that could potentially last beyond all of our lifetimes, since

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin will continue to be mined until but it isn't

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a problem that lasts forever with bitcoin right. Also, we

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>have to remember that as the amount of computational power

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>reduces in the bitcoin system, the problem. Uh, difficulty will

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>also reduce, so it will become easier to get to

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that hash value uh as more computers drop out the

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin system. So it is one of those things that

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>will correct itself in theory over time. Obviously, if the

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>value you a bitcoin continues to skyrocket, this will persist

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 1>longer and longer. Right, I mean we know that in

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years the number of bitcoin released per

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.959
<v Speaker 1>block is going to be cut in half yet again, right, Well,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>if it gets to a point where that number of

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin and the value of bitcoin falls below what would

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>mean operational costs, we'll see a drawbag change. But if

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin value goes up, like let's say it's a

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty thou dollars per bitcoin, then people are gonna say, no,

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's still totally makes sense to keep to keep pushing

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>as hard as we can because the value is so high.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's depended upon a lot of variables, all right.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>That finally sets us up to talk about what the

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>heck and l h R graphics card is. So this

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>was introduced by Nvidia earlier this year, and LHR stands

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>for light hash rate l i t e. Hash rate,

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and you can probably make some guesses as to what

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that means. Now, essentially, this technology is intended to check

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>for signs that the card is just being used to

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>mine cryptocurrency by generating hash values. So when the card

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>detects this, the idea is that it cuts that hash rate,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that is the speed at which the card can make

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>these kinds of guesses, and these are the kind that

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>relate to proof of work cryptocurrencies like Ethereum, one point

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>oh and Bitcoin. So in other words, the card hamstrings

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>itself if it determines that it's being used for mining cryptocurrency.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Now that is a huge disincentive for crypto miners obviously.

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean they want cards that will give them the

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>advantages they need to outperform all the other miners that

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>are going after Ethereum in this case, so they would

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>naturally avoid cards that would essentially slam on the brakes instead. Also,

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the LHR cards have a higher power draw rate. That

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>means they need more electricity to run, So that means

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you have you have cards that are not going to

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>process hash values as quickly as other cards are, and

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>they're drawing more power than other types of cards are.

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>That means they're also more expensive to operate if you're

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>running them seven. Technically they're more expensive to operate for

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>gamers as well, but your your average gamer isn't playing

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, so

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't accumulate as much. It is a bigger expense,

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but hopefully not as um prohibitive as it would be

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>for a bitcoin or rather ethereum mining operation. Now you

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>might wonder if this LHR technology would also inhibit gameplay,

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like if you hear, oh, this graphics card is designed

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:49.720
<v Speaker 1>to put out half it's uh it's output under certain conditions.

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that when I fire up you know,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the latest game, uh, that everything's gonna perform more poorly,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not gonna get the graphics quality and speed

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that I expect. I'm not going to get the phrase

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>per second that I want. The answer to that is no,

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>because that doesn't relate to generating hash values. As long

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>as whatever you're doing doesn't relate to generating hash values,

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>then the cards not gonna kick in that that break system.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>In other words, now, the video's approach is not perfect.

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>When the company released the g E Force r t

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>X thirty six, they did so with including the LHR limited.

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>When it started releasing it's it's thirty or three thousand line.

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Some of the earlier ones came out before in Video

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>had developed LHR, so they don't have an inhibitor on

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>them at all. They can be run at the full

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 1>speed that's f HR full hash rate. But the thirties

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty came out with an LHR limitter. However, in Video

0:47:56.200 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>accidentally included in a beta driver for the card away

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to deactivate the limitter. Essentially, it's like removing a limited

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>on a on a car so that it can exceed

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>its quote unquote top speed. Same sort of thing here,

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you could deactivate that and then run the card

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>as a full hash rate card, and that meant that

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:24.240
<v Speaker 1>crypto minors could use the thirty sixty without worrying about

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the LHR slowing things down. And Video went back to

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the drawing board and reportedly make sure that newer cards

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>will integrate LHR elements closer to the firmware to make

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it more difficult to bypass it. That doesn't mean that

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>minors won't try to find ways to crack the limitter

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and deactivate it. Currently, the r t X thirty seventy

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>t I and the thirty E t I cards still

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>are light hash rate only that's the only version that

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that in videos cells of those two cards. I can

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you there are people who are working to find

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ways to crack the LHR limitters. Okay, we have a

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit more to talk about, but I've been going

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>on for a long time. Let's take another quick break

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back. So I think this issue

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>with light hash rates and graphics cards and the the

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 1>desire for miners to get around it is going to

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>be a bit of a c solve problem in the

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>short term. Um, as long as there is money to

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>be made mining ether through proof of work, then people

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>are going to explore every possible avenue in order to

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 1>make that money, as long as the amount they're investing

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 1>is less than what they're going to get as a payout. Again,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 1>if we eventually, if this all revolves around money, if

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>it eventually gets more expensive to do than you make

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>out of it, then it doesn't make sense to keep

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>doing it. Eventually you'll bankrupt yourself trying to do it.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So if in videos implementation strong enough and hard enough

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to crack, not not perfect, but hard enough that could

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>be enough to push crypto miners to look at different

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>graphics cards and just avoid in video graphics cards because

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they have to spend time to crack that LHR protection

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and time is money. If they take too long to

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>crack LHR before the next round of graphics cards are released,

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>well then it's a waste of effort, right because there

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 1>are better cards that are already on the market. So

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the ideas. It doesn't have to be perfect, it

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just has to be hard enough where there's no reason

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to go that route, you can go some other way.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And not all companies are working to discourage crypto mining.

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Both A m D and Intel are not incorporating any

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of crypto limited on their graphics cards. And you

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>might even say, well, of course, why would they. I mean,

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>the crypto miners represent valuable customers. They demand the best

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>performing cards on the market, so their guarantee, right, You

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have to even market to them. You just have

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to make a screamingly fast card. So while in videos

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to cater to a specific customer base that of gamers,

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>other companies don't necessarily worry about that. Now that could

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>work in gamer's favor if they happen to like in

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Video's cards, because if the crypto minors all go to

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Intel an a m D that frees up in video

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:27.919
<v Speaker 1>means that there will be a greater supply of those

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 1>cards and gamers will actually be able to get their

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>hands on them. If the gamers instead prefer a m

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>D or Intel, well, then they're still competing with the

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 1>crypto minors. Something else that will likely have a massive

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>impact on this whole situation is that Ethereum is actually

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>headed toward a different method than proof of work. That's

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>how you currently mine ether. Proof of work is the

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>same way that bitcoin works. Right that you have these

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>computer systems that are putting out all this this computational

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 1>power to race to get to an answer first, Well,

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Ethereum is going to move away from proof of work

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and head toward proof of steak s T a k E.

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>So in that strategy, participants in the ether community who

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>want to mine ether will have to put a steak

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.479
<v Speaker 1>of some of their ether toward the chance to earn

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:27.120
<v Speaker 1>more ether from mining. So, in other words, they're dedicating

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>some percentage of the ether they own towards this process.

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And the more you stake, the more you dedicate to this,

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the better the odds are that you'll earn more ETHER.

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 1>This quickly becomes a system that rewards the people who

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>have the most already, or at least who are willing

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to stake the most already. And there's other problems with that,

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>but we won't get into it. But you know, there's

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>no hash value guessing in this approach, so there's not

0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:59.360
<v Speaker 1>nearly the same need for computational power. That means that

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that hold scent of structure that is feeding this frenzy

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>around graphics cards falls away, at least for ethereum, so

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it will no longer tie to graphics cards, and all

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>those miners who are currently pushing so hard to mind

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>ether will be in possession of very expensive and largely

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>useless hardware. Right, they'll have these computers with screamingly fast

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 1>GPUs that are expensive to run. But since it's no

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>longer a proof of work system, those systems won't won't

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>do them any good. Those computers won't do them any good. Uh.

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>They could switch to mining a different proof of work cryptocurrency,

0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 1>because there's no shortage of different cryptocurrencies out there. There

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>are hundreds of them. Uh. That and many of them

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>still use proof of work. There's some that use proof

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of steak, but a lot most of them use proof

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of work. However, a lot of those currencies are built

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>on top of the Ethereum blockchain, so things are going

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to change for them, Plaut. A lot of those currencies

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:06.399
<v Speaker 1>have a fraction of the value of Ether, so yeah,

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you could use them to mind these other types of crypto.

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>But if you know, like one Ether is worths and

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 1>one of these other cryptos is worth point zero to

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>five dollars, well it wouldn't make financial sense to dedicate

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>your screaming fast system two getting loose change, right, You

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be making a profit. Plus, uh, you know, the

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:38.359
<v Speaker 1>GPU miners aren't likely to scale up to bitcoin, at

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.800
<v Speaker 1>least not with GPUs, because they wouldn't be able to

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>compete against the bitcoin miners who are using a S

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I C systems out there, because GPU just can't match that.

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So the ethereum miners out there are working on borrowed

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>time at least as the current ethereum process works, and

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>once Ether switches is to proof of steak sometime in

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:06.439
<v Speaker 1>two at least that's the plan, we should theoretically see

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a decline in demand for graphics cards from the crypto community.

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>That should, in theory, give gamers a greater supply and

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>lower the costs for those graphics cards. Uh, you know,

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>there won't be as strong of an aftermarket for them.

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that will be a good thing, And it

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>would also mean that LHR might not be as important

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>unless some other proof of work cryptocurrency gains a ton

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of popularity, in which case the whole process will start

0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>up again. Now, I might do another episode down the

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 1>line to talk about some of the other limitations of cryptocurrencies,

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 1>with Bitcoin being the prime example, and I might really

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>focus on things like the number of transactions that a

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>system can handle per given unit of time. Bitcoin has

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<v Speaker 1>a scaling issue when it comes to processing transactions. The

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<v Speaker 1>limitations on the size of the blocks in the blockchain

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that you only generate a new one

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<v Speaker 1>every ten minutes means that Bitcoin is limited to processing

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of the number of transactions per minute that

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<v Speaker 1>a centralized company like Visa could handle. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like three eight times slower something like that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's it's just in other words, for Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>to work as a currency, so that people can use

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<v Speaker 1>it for regular transactions, then it has to be faster

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<v Speaker 1>at processing those transactions. Otherwise you're waiting forever for a

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<v Speaker 1>transaction to be verified, and that slows everything down. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire capitalist system that we use right now is built

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<v Speaker 1>on speed, and this would be a reversal of that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a moot point, at least at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>because right now bitcoin is really more of a speculative

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<v Speaker 1>investment and it's less of a currency. So it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of doesn't matter because we don't see the number of

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<v Speaker 1>transactions reaching anything close to what VISA handles because people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't buying and selling or they're not they're not spending

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin at that kind of pace. Uh, they're more people

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<v Speaker 1>are investing in bitcoin. They're buying it, but then they're

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<v Speaker 1>holding onto it and hoping that that investment grows up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might not be for another century or so

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<v Speaker 1>before we see that change, so we've got some time anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>My hope is that the combination of LHR technology and

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<v Speaker 1>the oncoming merge of ethereum one point oh, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the proof of work version, with Ethereum two point oh,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the proof of steak version, well, mean, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see some relief for gamers out there. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>have been putting off putting together a gaming rig until

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is a little less hectic. The combined problems

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<v Speaker 1>of profiteers who are buying up cards and selling them

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<v Speaker 1>at huge markups. Then you've got the crypto minors who

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<v Speaker 1>are champing at the bit to scoop up cards left,

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<v Speaker 1>right and center. And then you've got the semiconductor shortage

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<v Speaker 1>and all the supply chain issues that are already made

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<v Speaker 1>the expensive activity of building out a gaming rig to

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<v Speaker 1>become prohibitively expensive, at least for me. Here's hoping for

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<v Speaker 1>better days and better gaming ahead. All right, that's it

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I know that that went well beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck is an LHR gaming or graphics card.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, I think to appreciate why it's necessary we

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<v Speaker 1>had to go through all of that and to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get a handle on the landscape of crypto, it

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<v Speaker 1>is possible that will we will see bitcoin miners return

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<v Speaker 1>to graphics processing cards in the future if the value

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin drops to a point where it would be

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<v Speaker 1>prohibitively expensive to run as a systems or a s

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<v Speaker 1>I C. Systems, and you would want to downgrade because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you'd be losing money by I mean, that's a Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a delicate balancing act that will be dependent upon

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<v Speaker 1>the value of bitcoin and what other miners are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to wait and see how that all

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<v Speaker 1>shakes out over the next few years. Um, I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>not like you could say I have a bias against crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that would be totally fair for you

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<v Speaker 1>to say that I am not a huge crypto fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's it's not a Ponzi scheme, at

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<v Speaker 1>least not in the purest sense of the word. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like it's yet another system that consolidates

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous amount of wealth among a very tiny group

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<v Speaker 1>of stakeholders at the expense of everyone else, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really benefit society in any way apart from

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<v Speaker 1>like the small number of stakeholders who are making crazy

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<v Speaker 1>bank on the whole thing. Ah, but hey, that's my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I fully admit there are plenty of evangelists

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<v Speaker 1>out there who love crypto who would disagree vehemently with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying they're wrong, And then I'm right

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