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Speaker 4: Welcome into the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel. Your

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Speaker 4: latest NFL Draft betting update. We come to you in

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Speaker 4: early April. Missed out last week with the March madness

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Speaker 4: and uh, not much to update. We are back Brendon

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Speaker 4: glas Sheen with two of our very best that cover

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Speaker 4: the NFL Draft at Action. We've got Luke Swain, Vegas

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Speaker 4: Refund Travis Reed. They're here every episode that will be

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Speaker 4: joining you leading up to the draft. We're going to

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Speaker 4: be here the next couple weeks. Three weeks from Thursday

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Speaker 4: is the first round April twenty seventh, So we'll be

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Speaker 3: For of course updates rumor mongling.

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Speaker 4: But also how to bet the NFL Draft. That is

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Speaker 4: what we want to serve you here on the Action

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Speaker 3: So Fellas. Good to talk to you again. We didn't

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Speaker 3: talk last week.

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Speaker 4: I'll go to Luke first, kind of what we did

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Speaker 4: the first couple episodes, biggest changes from a rumors standpoint,

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Speaker 4: a news standpoint, and you can go whatever direction you'd like,

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Speaker 4: because it all somehow free agency, it all connects to

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Speaker 4: the draft in some capacity. So Luke the biggest piece

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Speaker 4: of information that you think has shifted things since the

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Speaker 4: last time we chatted on the pod.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, we're kind of still waiting

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to make the trade, which the closer

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Speaker 1: day trades happened for non qbs. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's really any notable news, but you're starting to hear

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Speaker 1: what teams aren't interested anymore in terms of trading up

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Speaker 1: We're starting to form a consensus on what the first

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Speaker 1: It's a unique year, so really nothing major, but just

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Speaker 4: We will dive into new markets that are available in

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Speaker 4: Dive in, but with the draft approaching and getting closer,

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Speaker 4: those markets are becoming available, so we can dive into

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Speaker 4: some of the things Luke is sort of teasing at,

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Speaker 4: and the quarterbacks is certainly a topic that we'll update

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Speaker 3: Trav, what's up? How when you look now last couple

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Speaker 4: Something that's caught your attention that you think is worth

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Speaker 4: become a podcast favorite. Now the last well, that's part

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Speaker 4: of me. That wasn't Jeremiah, that was Zerlines, Zerlines mock.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into. Sorry, sorry Dan, Jeremiah. We'll catch you.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you a break there.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't him, it was Zerlines. Zerline is mocks.

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Speaker 1: The defensive players that were expecting to go in the

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Speaker 1: I think we will.

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 5: Well, what you mean is you're hoping a trade goes

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Speaker 4: You're you're using the tree lance example because that happened

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Speaker 4: For and for people like you guys to adjust your

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Perfect. So that's what it needs.

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Speaker 5: So this needs to happen like now, like let's like

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Speaker 3: Well from that.

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Speaker 4: So Travis, when you look at just the Cardinals, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they they want to get out of

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Speaker 2: And I think this is a lot like the Chicago situation.

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Speaker 2: We're all pretty sure Arizona's going to trade the three pick.

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Speaker 2: We just don't know which team is moving up. So

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Speaker 2: much like we had that clarity once Carolina traded up

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Speaker 2: that'll kind of have that cascading effect that Luke was

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Speaker 3: Well, is there a scenario in which they wouldn't take Anderson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a perfect fit for the Lions or

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Speaker 4: So I'm not sure what the Raiders want to do

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Speaker 3: Pat I'm not sure is what they're They're they're gunning

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Speaker 1: Like I think they're going best available. Vic tar for

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Speaker 3: You got a Jalen Carter thought before we move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I so. Luke said it's it's kind of hard

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Speaker 2: if he does, especially with that report, if Seattle isn't

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Speaker 1: But that that would be the nine to one would

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Speaker 2: Right, it's it's Falcons to take Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's not got it get Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 4: Just looking at the other market available at FanDuel position

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Speaker 2: Right, it's even money. So all you're doing is taking

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Speaker 4: Right exactly, So when you correlate those two that experience,

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Speaker 5: Is that quarterback related? Is there a pro day in

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Speaker 1: So this week there was one some Miles Murphy who's

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Speaker 1: I think that is that would be great, And we

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 4: When we talked, and I know we talked about this

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Speaker 1: So the Titans moving up, if that happens and they

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Speaker 1: Is falling if you're zero line, Richardson falling, or and

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Speaker 1: one that just isn't being talked about it at all

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Speaker 1: is if one of the four quarterbacks falls to a

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Speaker 1: pick like the Lions at six, like the Titans, going

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Speaker 1: from eleven to six would cost a lot less and

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Speaker 1: I can see being a lot more realistic for a

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Speaker 1: team like the Lions who have two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: that it would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: For But.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if and this is why, like the Patriots

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Speaker 1: taking mac Jones to me never really made sense. And Brandon,

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Speaker 1: I know you're Patriots, Tanner gonna love this, but like,

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Speaker 1: if you're drafting your franchise quarterback, you either trade up

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Speaker 1: to go get them, or you have a top five

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Speaker 1: pick and you take him there. If you just start

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Speaker 1: hoping that this quarterback falls to you and then you

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Speaker 1: draft him to me, that's not like you truly believe

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Speaker 1: he is your franchise. You either go get him or

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Speaker 1: you have a topic. So the Patriots just let mac

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Speaker 1: Jones fall to him and let the Bears we frog

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Speaker 1: them to get fields. So I think trade is very

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Speaker 1: realistic for the Titans. I think it's the most realistic.

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Speaker 1: If a guy falls, they trade up to like the Lions,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. And then the hen and Hooker. I just

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Speaker 1: don't buy right now, Like the over has gotten destroyed

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Speaker 1: to a point where it is very battable. Hendon Hooker great,

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Speaker 1: but if you look, he is a quarterback coming off

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Speaker 1: of coming out of a spread system. The torn acl

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Speaker 1: A is twenty five years old. Every year around this

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Speaker 1: time there is a quarterback that is starting to get

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Speaker 1: hyped by the media because they have nothing else to

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Speaker 1: talk about that they say they could be. Wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if this guy sneaks in and he never does.

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Speaker 1: Last year was Desmon Ritter. He went in like the

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Speaker 1: second or third got Davis Mills goes in the fourth,

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Speaker 1: like the list goes on. I think I tweeted about

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Speaker 1: it last week, but to me right now, it's just hype.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him like Hendon Hooker could be like

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Speaker 1: it could be different, but if you base it off

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Speaker 1: of history, none of these quarterbacks that were getting hyped

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Speaker 1: or twenty five years old off of an acl etc.

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Speaker 1: Which the vikings to the team. Everyone's trending towards Titans,

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Speaker 1: maybe Patriots. But I don't buy it at all. I

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Speaker 1: would bet the under four and a half. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: bet the over unless it was like really fun Hods.

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Speaker 4: Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft analyst tweets yesterday April fourth,

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Speaker 4: we record to you on a Wednesday, April fifth. Tennessee

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Speaker 4: quarterback Kendon Hooker met with the Saints today as the

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Speaker 4: Titans and Packers too close to close out this week.

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Speaker 4: His schedule is packed pre draft with visits. Does he

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Speaker 4: go first round? Question Mark starting to think, so that's

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Speaker 4: Matt Miller.

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Speaker 1: And those teams can draft him in the second round too.

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Speaker 1: Just an FYI, Yeah, Matt Miller. It's just, uh, the

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Speaker 1: running out of things to talk about until we get

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Speaker 1: a little bit closer. We're like, we're in We're in

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Speaker 1: like a window of yeah, you don't want to put

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Speaker 1: out there's enough time to put out two mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: but not enough time to put out three. And we

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Speaker 1: got pro dasers starting to dwindle. Where these are the

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Speaker 1: types of things that, yeah, I just don't buy it.

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Speaker 4: Oh and by the way I meant to respond to

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Speaker 4: what you said about the mac Jones thing, just really quickly.

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Speaker 3: In certain I agree with you in the Patriots situation.

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Speaker 4: In some team situations like the Colts and how they've

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Speaker 4: handled this position post Andrew Luck, they're probably thinking, well,

501
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Speaker 4: to save face in our front office, to save face

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Speaker 4: for our new head coach, Well we could.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking like I'm the Colts. Well, you know, we

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Speaker 3: had the fourth. We had to take what was best.

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Speaker 4: Available to us, so it almost buys them time. Not

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Speaker 4: saying that's great for the football operation, but the idea

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Speaker 4: of buying time because we had to get the next

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Speaker 4: best quarterback available, what could be possibly done and the

509
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Speaker 4: one that last thing I wanted to talk about, that's like,

510
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Speaker 4: that's not football, that's that's just trying to save people's jobs.

511
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Speaker 3: That's not like trying to be a good team. Anyway,

512
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Speaker 3: keep going.

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Speaker 4: No, I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. I totally got it. And last

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to the Titans. With the coaches meetings

516
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Speaker 1: last week, Rabel had an interview which the build up

517
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Speaker 1: was insane and hilarious. But they were asking about tannha

518
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Speaker 1: and he goes on for like a minute or two

519
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Speaker 1: about Tannehill, where you think he's going to commit to him,

520
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Speaker 1: and then at the very end he just doesn't like

521
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Speaker 1: and I was like, ah, God, this isn't good for

522
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Speaker 1: like the Titans quarterback gods, and he just doesn't commit

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Speaker 1: to Tannel and he says basically saying like whoever is

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Speaker 1: going to be on a roster will have comp where

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Speaker 1: which at that point I was like, Okay, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should go bet more on Titans quarterback. But it was

527
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Speaker 1: like two minutes of losing faith, and then the last

528
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Speaker 1: fifteen seconds you're like, holy shit, he didn't commit to

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Speaker 1: Tanel because they can save a ton of money by

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Speaker 1: not having him on the roster.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Travis way in, please on the latest. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to Stroud and Young in a second here, but

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Speaker 4: just the conversation surrounding the Titans moving up. Jeremiah's got

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Speaker 4: a report coming in that the Titans can move up

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Speaker 4: from eleven and then pendon Hooker.

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Speaker 3: And if you do have an angle on how to

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Speaker 3: play the.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback market from a betting perspective, I will add Tennessee

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Speaker 4: Titans position of teams first draft pick.

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Speaker 3: It goes O line and then quarterback at plus one

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Speaker 3: twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It was right now, it was plus sixteen hundred a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Wow, go ahead, trap.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's one wild card here, and that's

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson that we haven't mentioned, who could throw a

547
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Speaker 2: wrench and pay a lot of things because there have

548
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Speaker 2: been some rumors to Indy for him, and obviously that

549
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Speaker 2: pick would go to Baltimore now as Baltimore draft the

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Speaker 2: quarterback that Indy would have drafted anyway, Maybe I think

551
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson would make a lot of sense just to

552
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Speaker 2: step into the Lamar role and just keep doing your

553
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: running quarterback offense. But yeah, if Tennessee has not committed

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Speaker 2: to Tannehill, they drafted Malik Willis last year. He is

555
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Speaker 2: not any good, but they that's obviously not a good

556
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Speaker 2: sign for Tannahill. So I do think, yeah, I think

557
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Speaker 2: quarterback makes a ton of sense for them and in

558
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Speaker 2: a lot of ways. But yeah, it's are they willing

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Speaker 2: to pay that price because it's going to be not

560
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Speaker 2: just this year's first it's probably next year's draft picks,

561
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Speaker 2: And so are you really confident one of these guys

562
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Speaker 2: to kind of mortgage this year and next year and

563
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Speaker 2: really kind of put your the coaching and the GM.

564
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Speaker 2: They probably don't have a lot of rope left. They

565
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Speaker 2: kind of got to that mountaintop and got the one seed,

566
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Speaker 2: had like their little run there, got to AFC championship

567
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Speaker 2: and never really and now it seems like they're on

568
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Speaker 2: their way down. And so really are they going to

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Speaker 2: just push all their chips in and see like, Okay,

570
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Speaker 2: we're going to try for one of these young quarterbacks

571
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Speaker 2: and hope he can get us back there.

572
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Speaker 3: The latest on Bryce Young CJ. Stroud number one pick.

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Speaker 4: We spent a lot of time on this in previous episodes,

574
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Speaker 4: and because there's just a lot of news around at

575
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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, they already had their pro days, Stroud had

576
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Speaker 4: Panthers ownership there last week chatted but the betting market

577
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Speaker 4: and looking at FanDuel right now, it's it's Stroud Stroud,

578
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Speaker 4: what they think Stroud minus three hundred, number one overall

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Speaker 4: pick Bryce Young plus two to fifty. But Luke, there

580
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Speaker 4: is some Bryce Young love coming in Zeroline's gonna mock

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Speaker 4: out now with you. We'll get to the other stuff

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Speaker 4: on the mack, but Young is going number one and

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Speaker 4: Zerolin's latest mock draft to Carolina. Your thoughts and is

584
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Speaker 4: there a chance that we we might need to take

585
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Speaker 4: a look at Bryce Young at plus two fifty to

586
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Speaker 4: be number one?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's just not I mean, I guess

588
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Speaker 1: if you don't have any number one tickets and you

589
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Speaker 1: just want to have some action on the number one pick,

590
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Speaker 1: like sure, but if you have Stroud tickets, I wouldn't

591
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Speaker 1: be hedging with Bryce Young. I think Jeremiah came out

592
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Speaker 1: on path of the draft last night saying he would

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Speaker 1: be utterly shocked if the Texans didn't take a quarterback

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Speaker 1: at number two, which was like the hottest angle of

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Speaker 1: Zero Lin's mock yesterday, which I don't if we're getting

596
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Speaker 1: into that now because I just have a few thoughts

597
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Speaker 1: about it because it was phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: Well, it all relates because he's got Young going number

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Speaker 5: one in his mock, so go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Zero Like the one thing with zero line

601
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Speaker 1: is we've talked about how like they are specific mockers

602
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Speaker 1: that are connected to teams and the team, and I

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Speaker 1: love the line. He's like one of my favorites, and

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Speaker 1: but the team he's connected to is the Texans, which

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Speaker 1: is why I didn't close the mock out the second

606
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Speaker 1: I opened it where he it was like he was

607
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Speaker 1: taking it to his grave, that he wasn't trying to

608
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Speaker 1: make a mock that would get attention or clicks. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, I think he replied to every

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Speaker 1: single reply that he got on his mock draft on Twitter,

611
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Speaker 1: so which it was great. It was absolutely crazy. But

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Speaker 1: there is a group think consensus right now that I

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Speaker 1: think could be a little bit more dangerous this year

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Speaker 1: compared to other years, because it generally thought that this

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Speaker 1: class is weaker than other years, and like the five

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Speaker 1: six seven pick, this year isn't like years past five

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Speaker 1: six seven, where normally it's if you have five through seven,

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Speaker 1: this guy is the best of the five, he's going

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Speaker 1: to go five, and it's just going to go like

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Speaker 1: those guys are going to go in that order, where

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Speaker 1: this year it's just a little bit more closer because

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Speaker 1: his crop isn't as good. Where one team could have

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Speaker 1: the fifth player at the bottom of the board, another

624
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Speaker 1: team could have him at the top. So there's just

625
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Speaker 1: a lot more on certainty, which again creates chaos, which

626
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Speaker 1: is great, but the group thing could be a little

627
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Speaker 1: bit more dangerous, which is why I appreciated zero lines.

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Speaker 1: I don't take it totally serious, but there needed to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a shake up in terms

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Speaker 1: of what the consensus was amongst the mock because it

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Speaker 1: was getting somewhat copycat.

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Speaker 3: So so you're you're kind of making fun of it

633
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Speaker 3: but also supporting it.

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Speaker 1: I'm yeah pretty much. Like I'm not like there was

635
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Speaker 1: nothing I'd bat off of his mock at all, but

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Speaker 1: it was it was good to like refresh it, like

637
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Speaker 1: just like refresh, like okay, you have to take a

638
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Speaker 1: step back and say, like, okay, things can go off

639
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Speaker 1: the rails. If it does, it could be this year.

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Speaker 1: And like that kind of just like reminded me. I

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Speaker 1: guess you could say where I mean, he had Tyree

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Speaker 1: Wilson going second, which was the Texans? He had it

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Speaker 1: was which you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta right, I got it right here, Will Anderson third

645
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Speaker 3: to Arizona.

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Speaker 4: C J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud going forth to Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: The Ratios Tyree second, So Texan's note in quarterback, right.

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Speaker 4: All right, So young Wilson, Dan Anderson to the Cardinals

650
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Speaker 4: at three, and then C. J.

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Speaker 1: Strad at four to Baltimore. Yeah, and Richardson fourteen to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, like which I'm all for that like, let's go,

653
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I would if his mock happens, we're losing

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. Let's just put it that way

655
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Speaker 1: at least I am, but I don't think it will

656
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Speaker 1: not a lot, eh whatever for our listeners.

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Speaker 5: Lancer Line twenty twenty three NFL mock his mock Draft

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Speaker 5: three point zero.

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Speaker 3: It came out just this week, so thanks.

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Speaker 1: Mcshaye. Came out of the monck yesterday too, which I'm

661
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: a huge macshee fan. I love him. It was it

662
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: was kind of underwhelming because I read because it's way

663
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: more interesting. Yeah, like in I read into the context

664
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the mocks, and it seemed like he

665
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: didn't have any information in this mock, Like it was

666
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: kind of just his opinion, which you love, like he

667
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: does like quote unquote like I'm hearing, et cetera. Like

668
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: there was not a lot of I'm hearing in the

669
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: context of this of his mock, which disappointing, But it's okay.

670
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Travis C. J.

671
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: Straw, Bryce Young, if you have a Stroud ticket get

672
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: close to even money when I mean that was about

673
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: even the minute the deal went down, when Carolina traded

674
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: up to number one, What would you do with the

675
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: current market of Stroud minus three hundred Young plus two fifty.

676
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm the same as Luke. I'm just sitting on the

677
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Stroud ticket. Don't need a hedge yet. If that number

678
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: gets bigger, especially if we get closer and you want

679
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: to just headge out a little bit, that's fine, But

680
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: for now I'm sticking with it. Yeah, that zer Line

681
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: mock did open some eyes. But yeah, it's kind of

682
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: like when somebody makes a crazy March Madness bracket. You're like,

683
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go with that, but I respect that

684
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: you're trying to go for it. But yeah, the interesting

685
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: thing is I have seen what if Young doesn't go second.

686
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: You know what if Richardson goes second and Luke mitched

687
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: the group think you know, there's there's chance that Richardson

688
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: does go second, we're kind of just dismissing that. So

689
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: I think those types of things are interesting. If you

690
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: want to bet, like Bryce Young to go third or fourth,

691
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: there's some long odds there. But if you made me

692
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: pick right now, I'm still gonna go Stroud one, Young two,

693
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: and then then we wait on the trade of three.

694
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's there's an angle with Stroud not going

695
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: number two because he has the same agent as DeShawn,

696
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: which people are galaxy braining that the Texan won't want

697
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: Stroud because of his agent because there's so so much

698
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: tension between DeShawn and the Texans from the past that

699
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: Stroud is the same agent. I don't buy that, but

700
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean if they're if they're making decisions off of

701
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: things like that, then they got a problem in itself.

702
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, every client is their own individual person, and

703
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: I do.

704
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Want to just quick thought, Witherspoon just ran as forty

705
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: and it looks like he ran a four to four

706
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: to two and a four to four six and I

707
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: quote the man of the hour, Dane Deeremiah quote unquote,

708
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: that'll work. So Witherspoon is very much in play for

709
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: top ten, yeah, which I love. I think Raiders or Lyons, Raiders,

710
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: Falcons six, seven, eight are very much in play at

711
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: this point because he hadn't tested yet and the fact

712
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: that he just ran a well four to four, it's great.

713
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: And I don't even think he's one hundred percent so

714
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: in terms of health. So you ran a low four

715
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: to four, not one hundred percent, sign me up.

716
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: All right, Well, that's something we can definitely dive into

717
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: deeper next week, but before we go, so there's your

718
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: quarterback update.

719
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of going on, a lot of.

720
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: Chatter, which is good for our purposes, but from a

721
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: betting perspective, it sounds like don't overreact to the hand

722
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: in hooker high and for the most part, and it relates,

723
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: it's not see I know that when you consume podcasts

724
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: folks about the draft, a lot of it's made about

725
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, but it also is the guys set off

726
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 4: the top. It relates to how you want to bet

727
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 4: defensive positions as well for the teams like the Cardinals

728
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 4: and the Falcons and possibly the Seahawks. Like it all

729
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: kind of connects in that way based on the over

730
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: under kind of place.

731
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: So speaking of which, and.

732
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Speaker 5: We've kind of we've intertwined these throughout today's show, but

733
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Speaker 5: before we get out of here, and also you guys

734
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: are going to give out a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of picks before we get out.

736
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Speaker 4: Any new markets that you guys are eyeing since the

737
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: last podcast, Luke, you first, any new markets that you

738
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: want to tell the listener to explore.

739
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: So there's a bunch the ones that I've gotten the

740
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: US involved with which it's really kind of just the

741
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: over nunner is not fully coming out, and I guess

742
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: needing some action on the draft is team to draft

743
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: position first, which Fandal put up a ton. DraftKings has

744
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: a ton, Caesars has a ton. Now where I got

745
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of the early numbers, there still

746
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: are a few, but those of you can which again,

747
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: whether quarterbacks go one, two, three, four is really what

748
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: hinders at least the top ten terms of position. But

749
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: there's a bunch on there. You got positional over runners available,

750
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: you got conference college conference overrunners available. We had a

751
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: first linebacker come out, which I was surprised. Drew Sanders

752
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: wasn't the favorite. Jack Campbell out of Iowa actually opened

753
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: as a favorite. But if neither of them go in

754
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: the first round, it really gets dicey, and that's when

755
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: like fits come in and winebacker is a interesting, not

756
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: premium position, so I'm not interested in first linebacker. They

757
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: even have a matchup on Draftking which they're tied. What

758
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: else came out, Oh, Michael Mayer on Fandel came out,

759
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: which that was a bad, bad, bad, bad line that

760
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: they opened up. And they opened up Lions at thirty

761
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: four to one, which off of the mocks that I track,

762
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Michael Mayer to the Lions is the highest percentage, which

763
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: is twenty, which is five percent higher than any other

764
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: player going to the Lions at eighteen. Now, I've had

765
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: many friends respond saying, is plus five thousand Titans to

766
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: pick a tight end a better bet? And the answer

767
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: is no, because they have two picks, and that bet

768
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: is for the number six pick. So if you're seeing

769
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: the Michael Mayer ods and you think that the positional

770
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: ows are better, those positional odds are for the number

771
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: six pick, not the number eighteen pick, which would be

772
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: the Michael Mayer which came out of thirty four to one,

773
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: which I bet to come down. I still think they

774
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 1: should be the favorite. It's not like my I bet

775
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: for this pod, but it is a fun one. And

776
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: then they opened up first kicker. What's his name? What's

777
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: the kicker's name? Did you see that, Travis?

778
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Jake Moody. I saw it and I said,

779
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: who the hell is Jake Moody?

780
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is like draftons just teasing us. It's like,

781
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: we want more over runders. And they put out Jake

782
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Moody last night, which was I mean, I don't have

783
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: any thoughts on a kicker, but I did have a

784
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: friend say he bet Jake Moody to the Bears at

785
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: one hundred to one, so I was like, whatever, So

786
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: I think I put like town Bucks on it at

787
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and one, Jake Moody to the Bears, we

788
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: just want the overenders. And number four number five pick

789
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: came out too. That is very interesting to me because

790
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: it's priced out somewhat to the extent that they think

791
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are going to pick at three and

792
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: Will Anderson at four and Will Anderson at five. I

793
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: don't see him getting past five at all if you've

794
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: bet both of them, kind of guaranteeing your stuff profit.

795
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: I think it's plus two twenty five to go fourth

796
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: and then like plus one sixty five to go fifth.

797
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Like the only way you don't make money off of

798
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: those two bets combined is if zero line was correct,

799
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: which I don't think is Travis.

800
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: Any markets that have jumped out to you that are

801
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: new in the last couple of weeks or ones that

802
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: you're you're keeping.

803
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: An eye on, or eye I like the you know,

804
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: the team.

805
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 2: Positional ones are good because you don't have to nail

806
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: the player exactly. You just have to nail the team need,

807
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: especially in the back half of the draft, because there

808
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: is you know, this effect of well, if one team

809
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: just reaches here, it could set off a chain of events.

810
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: But if you can nail the team's needs and the

811
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: mocks are agreeing with those team needs and you can

812
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: get some value there, those are the ones that are

813
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: probably the best to go after. Like Luke said, we're

814
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: still waiting on the over unders. Hopefully those come soon.

815
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of instances where you should shop

816
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: around and look at different it's not even shopping the

817
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: same market. It's if this happens, this market is good.

818
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Like for example, we talked about what if Richardson goes second, Well,

819
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: he's sixteen to one to go second. But if you

820
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: think that means Young goes third, he's twenty five to

821
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 2: one to go third. So if you think those three

822
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: are the picks, you'd be better off betting the twenty

823
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: five to one Young going third than Richardson going second,

824
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: because if Richardson goes second, you're probably hitting that twenty

825
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: five to one.

826
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: Now that NFL Draft is three weeks from tomorrow. The

827
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: actual picks that you guys might want to get on now,

828
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 4: we'll go to Luke first and then Travis before.

829
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 5: We get out of here. Luke, anything you want to

830
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 5: bet or give out.

831
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Speaker 1: Now, there's one I do like, and it's going to

832
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: be a positional where it's some of a planning. My

833
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: red flag on this where the one I do like

834
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: it As current odds are Eagles position to be drafted first,

835
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: which is on FANDOL. It's on all the books, and

836
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I very much like offensive line at plus four hundred

837
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: plus three to eighty either or works where right now

838
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: the trendy pick is Lucas van Ness or maybe a corner.

839
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: I just don't totally buy that. If you look into

840
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: their beat writers. Jimmy Kopenski, who's one of the one

841
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: of my favorite like diamonds in the rough Eagles for

842
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: the Philly in Choir, has come out with a couple

843
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: of pieces lately about team needs, big board, etc. After

844
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: his after the owners meetings that he was at and

845
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: offensive line he has made great arguments for and the

846
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: Eagles are going to be a team that is the

847
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: most analytically driven and going and they always draft the

848
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: premium positions in the first round. They never take linebackers,

849
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: they never take running backs. There there could be an

850
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: exception with Bijon, but I don't buy that totally. And

851
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles have their center Kelsey and Wayne Johnson at

852
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: right tackle who have one year left maybe two, and

853
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles have always had depth, and they've lost a

854
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: few guys, and right now, oh, Paris Johnson is trending

855
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: to go nine to the Bears, which leaves Scaransky and

856
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Broderick Jones, which I could see either of them going here.

857
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: But Skoronski is the perfect pick for number ten because

858
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Kopenski mentioned how drafting alignment that is versatile, who they

859
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: can just put at guard from day one and then

860
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: move to right tackle when Lane Johnson leaves, or maybe

861
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: even center. In Karanski is exactly that his arms are

862
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: a little bit shorter, so everyone is making the point

863
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: that he is not a left tackle and they think

864
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: he might fall, which is why Paris Johnson might go

865
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: ahead of them. Where Skranski is that they guard the

866
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: tackle who knows even the center, And it is exactly

867
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: the type of pick I can see Eagles taking and

868
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: needing at ten in Skronski is very like he is

869
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: power ranking big boards. He is top five on every team,

870
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: but based off of the arms and etc. And guard

871
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna slip and every bet that I make, I

872
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: want at least two or three options. I was very

873
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: interested in the Falcons and the Raiders are like their

874
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: position a lot to interest me. Corner is interesting, and

875
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 1: defensive line for the Falcons at seven, which defensive lines

876
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: plus four hundred corners plus two fifty. But with the

877
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: defensive line you're really kind of just betting on Tyreeve falling,

878
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: which is one option. We're at ten. We could have

879
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: three tackles for the Eagle to pick between, which I buy.

880
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: Corner I don't think is as big as a need anymore.

881
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: Eagles first position, offensive line plus four hundred love it.

882
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: I like it, and that you know Kelsey probably playing

883
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: his last season, they're getting older.

884
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: Could sure that up for a young quarterback on a

885
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: rookie deal. So go out and continue to grow the

886
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: offensive line and keep things going for Jalen Hurts.

887
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: I like it.

888
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: At the top of the draft, Travis, anything that you'd

889
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: like to give out at the end of the show

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00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: before we say goodbye.

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00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Carter to the Falcons at nine to one

892
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: again another one. I think I've give this out before,

893
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: but I'm still kind of piling in, Uh, Jackson Smith

894
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: and Jigba first receiver, he's still minus two hundred. I

895
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: still think that's too short. He's I think he's clearly

896
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: in a tier above those other guys. Most of the

897
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: question marks around his health and everything have been answered.

898
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: There's just like all of the Ohio State players and

899
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: everything like that, Like Garrett Wilson came out and said

900
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: he's better than I was. Like, there's just a lot

901
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: of good rhetoric towards him. So I think he's clearly

902
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: going to be the top receiver in this draft, and

903
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: I think minus two hundred is fine to lay that.

904
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 5: Where do you suspect he goes?

905
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: Probably in that eleven twelve range. A lot of that depends.

906
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: If the Titans don't trade up for a quarterbacks they could,

907
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: They clearly need receivers.

908
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I think those Titans take wide receivers ten to one,

909
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: which that would mean they're taking a wide receiver in

910
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: the first round two years in a row, which would

911
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: be crazy. But I'm seeing it and I do buy

912
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: it too.

913
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those things where as soon as

914
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: the trade happens, like say the Colts do make a

915
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: trade or something, run to go bet that because if

916
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: they're not trading up for a quarterback, receivers going to

917
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: be one of their best needs that and tackle. But yeah,

918
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be in that you know,

919
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen range, and I think he's going to

920
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: clearly be ahead of those other guys.

921
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: He is.

922
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: There is a specific book, a big book that has

923
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: him at minus one seventy five for its receiver taken

924
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: two and I think, what was it? Who's the Ohio

925
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: state wide receivers coach used to be the Dolphins wide

926
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: receiver Heartline right A heart Line had an interview earlier

927
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: this week, and you like listed to his top five

928
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: receivers he's coached, and he put Marvin Harrison number one,

929
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: and he had Jackson number two, and then I think

930
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: he went Garrett Terry, which to me like maybe I

931
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: buy it, Like You're like, you're not going to put

932
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: a guy in his draft process any lower than number two,

933
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: and you're also going to put a guy who's playing

934
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: for you number one, which I Marvin's like Marvin is

935
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: number one, and it just felt like he wasn't trying

936
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: to hurt anyone's feelings. And the Ohio state is wide

937
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: receiver you and everyone's pumping them, which I would pump

938
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: my guys to. So but I think I agree with Travis,

939
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: which minus won seventy five Hell yeah, minus two hundred.

940
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: If Tennessee moves up, I mean maybe there is some

941
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 4: appeal for for Houston to take a receiver. And then

942
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, Patriots are meeting with Zay Flowers, the BC

943
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: kid like of course they are, you know, like just

944
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: because that's just easy for Bill to go right down.

945
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: Please now, yeah, okay, very good fellas, good stuff.

946
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: This was fun.

947
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: We're back off and running. We have three weeks to

948
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Speaker 4: go until the draft, so we'll be with you next week.

949
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Speaker 5: And the week after that and the week after that.

950
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Speaker 4: So the twelfth, nineteenth, twenty sixth, we will be giving

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Speaker 4: you NFL Draft betting updates leading up to the first round,

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