1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar arings and rating Win and Jonas Knox 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: on Boxorts Radio. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: We opened up the show talking about the latest on 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. Reportedly, according to Ian Rappaport, the expectation is 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: they will not release Stefon Diggs, which would make some sense. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: He was at OTA's wave to reporters there. Nice to 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: see you, guys. Uppere do not have any sort of 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: a pink substance with him in possession of him. While 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: at OTA's Frank Ragnow has decided to call it a 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: career For the Detroit Lions, that's another loss for them 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: and everybody's kind of monitoring and tracking what is happening 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. A very fascinating storyline where the Cleveland Browns 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: have decided, you know what, why just focus on one 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: quarterback when we can just have a bunch that all 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: do different things and all have different storylines. Joe Flacco 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: is in his forties, trying to give it another go 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: here after winning a Super Bowl a few years back. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett's trying to revitalize his career because things didn't 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: go well in Pittsburgh. But he did get a Super 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles. You've got Dylan Gabriel there, 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: who was drafted in the third round. You've got shad 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Or Sanders who was drafted in the fifth. Meanwhile, off 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: in the distance is Deshaun Watson. Uh, you know, rehabbing 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: or making another TikTok video, which I believe, by the way, 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: is he did they get married? Is that is that happening? 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Look like they got engaged, and so it looks like, well, hey, 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: you know there, you go. Listen, we listen. 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: We've all uh, we've all had to overcome something, and 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: so it's good to see that he overcame whatever. 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Go and touch it. Yeah, I'm not going touch No, 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: don't worry. 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: They already did so, not mary yet, Nope, just just 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: engaged as of right now. Okay, Well, good for them, 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: that's good for the for the happy couple there, and 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 2: hope everything works out for him. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: But while everyone's focused. 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: On the future, in the quarterback room with the Cleveland Browns, 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Dion Sanders did take time to talk about his son, 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and sort of the conversation and narrative that 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: was surrounding him going. 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: Into the draft. 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: And he was on the Say What needs to be 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Said to podcast and he spoke about the perception and 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: what it did for not only Shador but also Shiloh 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: as well. 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: The Bible says God uses the foolish things to confound 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 5: the wise. So it was some foolish stuff that went on, 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: but you know what, that that gave them something that 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: they needed, Like this gave them something that they said, 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 5: I you know that, like that, like the edge that 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 5: Tom had, Like that edge. It gave them that edge 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 5: that you had. It gave them the edge that I had, 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: you know, say we're gonna be that we want to be. 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 5: We had to prove that that gave them the edge 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: that they needed. When you sit up there and and 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 5: say something like he went in a meeting unprepared, like dude, 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: chadors Anders, who's had six different coordinators, who has still 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 5: function and went up, leveled up every time we brought 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: somebody new end and you're gonna. 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: Tell me every situation. 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: You're gonna tell me he had on headphone, chaud or 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: anybody know my son, I understand he's a professional. Like 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 5: he's gonna go into a meet with headphones on, like. 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: YO, come home. 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: So that was Dion Sanders defending his son and some 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: of the various reports that were out there. 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: Following uh the draft slide that took place, and I mean, look, 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: he does. 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: I was waiting for him to be more vocal about 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: defending his son because I think I actually expected him 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: to talk more openly about it. But I think he's 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: just sort of taken. I'm gonna take a step back. 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: It's my son's career. Maybe I don't want to interject 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: too much, but I'm calling it right now. If shaud 76 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Or Sanders has the type of success that they believe 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: that he could have, and apparently the reviews out of 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: OTAs have been very, very good for shaud Or Sanders, 79 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: now he's performed. If he ends up getting that starting 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: job and ends up playing well, Dion Sanders is going 81 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: to have something for everybody, Like he's going to have 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: something for everybody who questioned his son's commitment, his preparation, 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: his ability, so on and so forth. Based on all 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: of that, I think he's just letting it marinate, letting 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: it all sit there, and he's going to have something 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: for all the naysayers and the haters out there of 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: shoud Or Sanders going and going through the draft process, 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: all right. 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: What Dion said is what a parent would say about 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: their their child, because of parents knows their child better 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: than anybody else does, so I think he was speaking 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: from a parent perspective in that SoundBite, not from a 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: coach's perspective. Is what I would offer to that as 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: it applies to where Shador is now and what that 95 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: situation looks like. Again, I'm going to continue to maintain 96 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: what I've maintained, and not reports, not reviews, or anything 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: else is going to change how I see this. It 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: is an uphill battle for Shador Sanders, and for what 99 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: it's worth, it's not like like just thinking sensibly of 100 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: it and practically about it. If a kid gets drafted 101 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: in the fifth round of the draft and that very 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: team took a player earlier in the draft in the 103 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: third round at the same position, it is going to 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: be a very very hard task for anyone take that. 105 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: Remove the name, remove the name, remove the reasonings why 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: like you want you want to say, the reason why 107 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: he went in this round is because of X, Y 108 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: and Z. Remove all of those things and just look 109 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: at at look at this from a face value perspective, 110 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: you have a quarterback that's worth over two hundred and 111 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars that isn't even going to be ready 112 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: to play. You bring in two vets ahead of the draft. 113 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: One of those vets played very well for the Cleveland 114 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: Browns a year removed from that, played well in his 115 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: spot duties where he was at last year in Indy. 116 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: Gets called to come back and to compete for the job, 117 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: and made it very clear he's going to compete for 118 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: the job in his interview he's not interested in being 119 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 3: a role model. Canny Pickett is like, he's the one 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: that's the one element, that's the one piece of this 121 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: puzzle that is the most undefined piece as it applies 122 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: to why would you bring him? Because he wasn't successful 123 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: As he was not successful as a starter in Pittsburgh, 124 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: he took on the role of being a backup, gets 125 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: a super Bowl in Philly. But what does that lead to, 126 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: Like does his time in the league equate to him 127 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: being prepared to now be a starter in Cleveland? I 128 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: don't think so. So your problem probably looking at Kenny 129 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: Pickett as being a backup. That's what you're probably looking 130 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: at and projecting Kenny Pickett to be I do not 131 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: think you're projecting him to be a starter for your team. 132 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: So you bring in Joe Flacco to compete to be 133 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: the starter. Who is he competing to be the starter with? 134 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Are we basically saying there are going to be enough reps, 135 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: which this conversation has already been had plenty of times. 136 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: There's going to be enough reps between four players to 137 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: be able to find your way to the starting position 138 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: from the last position drafted. Now, I will say this 139 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: is daunting a task as it is for a fifth 140 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: round draft pick that has a third round draft pick 141 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: in the same exact draft class with two vets. This 142 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: could be And this is where what when you bring 143 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: up Dion and how you say he'll have something for 144 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: everybody if if Shador Sanders pulls through and is able 145 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: to somehow defy the odds. Because this is one hundred 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: percent of defying of the odds situation for Shador Sanders, 147 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: whether people want to admit that or not. That's the truth. 148 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: The faith element of this, you know, it's like the 149 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: spiritual element of this. It's such a major part of 150 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: Dion Sanders's life. It's such a major part of Shador 151 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: and the Sanders families' lives. It's it's a major part 152 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: they're god fearing people. Well, it's it's one of those moments. 153 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: Is the one that was last going to end up 154 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: being the one that's first? You know, It's like Bob 155 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: mar really had a song and one of the lyrics 156 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: in the song was but the stone that the builder 157 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: refused shall be the head corner stone. 158 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 6: Right. 159 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: So basically, Shador Sanders, in the situation that he is 160 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: he is in, finds himself with an interesting opportunity because 161 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: if he were to become the starter, that is probably 162 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: the biggest story in all of the National Football League 163 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: when it happens. 164 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: And wouldn't you say that if that's the case. 165 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: And he ends up being as good as Dion thinks 166 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: he's going to be, and he ends up giving Dion 167 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: the opportunity to shout and talk about you guys were wrong, 168 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: so on, it doesn't that call into question the draft 169 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: process and evaluation process of everybody else who did pass 170 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: on him, because if the if the idea was well, 171 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: we passed on him not because of maybe skill set, 172 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: but more how he acted in meetings and how he 173 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: came across why. I can understand that to a point, 174 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: but five rounds, there's going to be. 175 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: A lot of people come out. Mel Kiper's going to 176 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: come out thumping. There's going to be a lot of 177 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: people that come out and have something to say. If 178 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: it plays out where Shador Sanders ends up being a 179 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: superstar and you know, in Cleveland, I would just ask 180 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: the question, Lee. Look it up. How many fifth round 181 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: draft pick quarterbacks end up starting their rookie year. 182 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: I can think of one off the top of my head. 183 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: Who Kyle Orton due to injury? I mean, that was 184 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: that was due to injury and he had to play. 185 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he was a fifth round pick if 186 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, But. 187 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: That was, you know, that was. I don't know that. 188 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: It's not like he won the job. That was due 189 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: to injury. 190 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: He had, he had an opportunity to play and going 191 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: there and the second that Rex Grossman was back, they 192 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: made the move to go to Grossman, so that I 193 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: didn't even think that this was a him. 194 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: Just winning the job outright. But other than that, it's. 195 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: I can't I can't think of. According to ESPN's mel 196 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: Kiper Junior, none of the QB's picked in the fifth 197 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: round have become regular starters over the last thirty years. 198 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: I just don't. Again, I hate to be the one 199 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: that kind of injects some just logic to the scenario. 200 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: But it's a daunting task, man, and it's a task 201 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: that won't It just doesn't seem like that'll work out. 202 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: And correction, Kyler was taken to the fourth round, fourth round, 203 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: not the fit. 204 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: And for what it's worth, how did his career go? 205 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: Well? 206 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: Was it not bad? You know? 207 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Well? 208 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: How long did he make it in? How long was 209 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: he a starter for? 210 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: Uh? 211 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: I remember him being pretty good out of Purdue. It 212 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: was a really good quarterback at produe, like really good. 213 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: He ended up playing nine years. 214 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: It's not bad. Yeah, how many did he start? 215 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: He had eighty two starts in nine years, forty two 216 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: and forty record, one hundred and one touchdown, sixty nine picks. 217 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just hate the round pick. I 218 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: hate to be the bearer of bad news fifth round 219 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: draft picks. It's just it's especially again, especially with a 220 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: third round draft pick in the mix, it's not enough, Like, 221 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: how can you sit here and people say we're going 222 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: to justify downgrading and downplaying the fact that Dylan Gabriel 223 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: is the third round draft pick for this like Dylan 224 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 3: Gabriel is a non factor in the conversation. 225 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: All right, So let me ask you this. If we're 226 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: talking about quarterbacks drafted by a team in the same 227 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: draft at different points in the draft. You were in 228 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: Washington when they took RG three and then took Kirk 229 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: Cousins later in the draft, what was the conversation like, 230 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: Because I remember at the time when they did that, thinking, well, 231 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: that's interesting. That seems a little uh, it seems kind 232 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: of interesting that that's how that would play out. This 233 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: is third and fifth, so it's a little different. But 234 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: that was also a situation in a scenario where I 235 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: don't know if anybody got the feeling going into it 236 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: that maybe Kirk Cousins had a real shot or if 237 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: this was just a best player available. 238 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: But that was a debate day one, and it was 239 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,359 Speaker 3: a debate day one because of all of this dysfunction 240 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: that was taking place in Washington. And that was one 241 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: of those deals where it was like one of the 242 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: picks was Shanahan's and one of the pick was was 243 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: Dan Snyder's. And from what I heard it was a 244 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: matter of he was an insurance policy to RG three. 245 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't remember it off the top of my head, 246 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: but I feel like I feel like it wasn't Kirk 247 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: Cousins was the insurance policy based off of if RG 248 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: three was going to be able to do it at 249 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: the pro level. Like that that was how how I 250 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: got it, Like somebody, somebody didn't want to take RG three. 251 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: I just don't remember off the top of my head. 252 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to mess it up, but I would 253 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: assume I would assume that kirk Cousins would have been 254 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: the one that the Shanahans wanted. I would have assumed. 255 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: I would assume that, But I could be wrong. 256 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean? 257 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think people felt like some people felt like 258 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins came in with more of a skill set 259 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: that would fit what the Shanahan's offense. What it was. Wow, Wow, 260 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: RG three was more of a you know, more of 261 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: a mobile quarterback. 262 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: I do wonder on that point, because listen, we don't 263 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: know who's going to be the quarterback. I mean, we're 264 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: you know, we can kind of speculate. I think it's 265 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: going to be Flacco. We don't know who the starter 266 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: is going to be. We know Deshaun Watson still got 267 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: more time left on his deal, whatever the hell happens there, Like, 268 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: the one thing that we do know is if the 269 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: Browns are bad again this year, Kevin Stefanski's probably gone, 270 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: like this is probably it. And I just wonder Stefanski, 271 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: which is why I believe he's going to ultimately go 272 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco as a starter, because he looks at 273 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: this and goes, Man, if I have another bad year, 274 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm out, yes, and I got to save my job. 275 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: And I just wonder how he felt about the decision 276 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: to take another quarterback with my fifth round pick after 277 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: we just took one in the third, whether he looks 278 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: at that and goes, look, I need all the help 279 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: I can get. We can only start one quarterback. What 280 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: are we doing? Like, what's what's the plan here? Because look, 281 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: you you saw the faces in the room and they made. 282 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: The decision no real real emotion, So you know. 283 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe this, Maybe this is another example of 284 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: Jimmy HASLM getting involved and being like, well, I like 285 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: the storyline, much like maybe Dan Snyder got involved in 286 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: wanting to take RG three. 287 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: When he did. 288 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: I mean, they're just it's still is a strange. 289 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: Move to me. 290 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Was a huge success though, Yeah, and they had and 291 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: they had great success with him. He was the rookie 292 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: of the year. RG three just got hit by a 293 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: sledgehammer and a steam engine by the name of Hellodi 294 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: not and and Dangaire knocked his leg off of his body. 295 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: I've seen it with my own two eyes. It was 296 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: an injury. It was an injury that that allowed for 297 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 3: as you mentioned with Kyle Orton, it was an injury 298 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: that allowed for for Kirk Cousins to get the opportunity 299 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: to even play. It wasn't in the cards. It wasn't. 300 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't set up for kirk Cousins to be a starter. 301 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: He was going to be a backup until he probably 302 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 3: left in free agency and went somewhere else after he 303 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: was done in Washington. It just happened to be. You know, 304 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: RG three injured his knee and couldn't stay healthy after that. 305 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: Like literally, he could not stay healthy after he injured 306 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: his knee in that in that playoff game. So it 307 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: was it was an opportunistic moment for Kirk Cousins. Does 308 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 3: that opportunity come for for Shador Sanders, it's it's to 309 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: me if it plays out where again, like Q isn't 310 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: here to say it, but we've said it enough. If 311 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: one of these guys doesn't get the starting job, are 312 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: they really gonna actually ask to be released to go 313 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: somewhere else? Like to me, I don't see how that 314 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: makes sense. If I'm Kenny Pickett, if I'm on this 315 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: roster and I'm set to be a backup on this 316 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: roster to an old ass Joe Flacco, why would I 317 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: ask for Why would I ask for a release to 318 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: go somewhere else? And what's the guarantee that you're gonna 319 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: get picked up by another team that's gonna put you 320 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: in a situation that could be as advantageous as the 321 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: one you're in right now? How has that happened? So, 322 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: if I'm Kenny Pickett, I'm not asking for a release. 323 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna play my role as the backup 324 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: until I get an opportunity. There's two ways I can 325 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: get on this field right now. One Joe Flacco doesn't 326 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: hold up. Two Joe Flacco doesn't play well. That's how 327 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: I can get on the field. So I'm gonna just 328 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: buy my time. But as it applies to the two rookies, 329 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: I'm just I cannot I cannot rest logic on the 330 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: idea that a fifth rounder is going to outperform and 331 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: play and get enough time and enough reps to outperform 332 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: the third rounder. The third rounder is going to be 333 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: given the reps, the backup is going to be given 334 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: the reps, and the starter is going to get the 335 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: lion's share of the reps. So I don't see how 336 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: the odd man out is the fifth round pick. They're 337 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: going to have to play him because he's the on 338 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: Oh he's e'sha door Sanders, and the situation is what 339 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: it is, but it's it's got to be considered a 340 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: long shot for him to be able to make this 341 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: meteoric rise up the depth chart to being the starting 342 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: quarterback in Cleveland like that, to me, it's a pipe dream, 343 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: if I'm being totally honest. 344 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: And if you just take a step back and look 345 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: at it, it all goes back to ground zero, which 346 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: is everybody's been putting a tough spot. So Kevin Stefanski's 347 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: been putting a tough spot, Joe Flacco's been putt in 348 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: a tough spot. Kenny Pickett's been putting a tough spot. 349 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: Shod Or Sanders and Dylan Gabriel been putting a tough spot, 350 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: and they've all been putt in a tough spot because 351 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson put everybody in a tough spot. 352 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: And it was Jimmy. 353 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: Haslam who put everybody involved in the tough spot by 354 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: making the move to bring in to Shaun Watson and 355 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: it failing completely from the get go, Like it just 356 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: so now they're just sort of scrambling to try and 357 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: figure out what direction to go, and they've got a 358 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: bunch of the same thing all in the room and 359 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: everyone looking around and going, Okay, I guess this is 360 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: how we're doing it. 361 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: It's just it's bizarre, man, really. 362 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: All if all this and that and the way things 363 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: have been handled leads to Shador Sanders starting as the 364 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns at face value, it 365 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: will be the biggest story in all of the NFL, 366 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: and good luck to him. Like it's a great situation 367 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: in the sense that if you're a fifth rounder, this 368 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 3: would be the situation I would want to be in. 369 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: Like you got an old man, you got a backup unproven, 370 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: and he Shador probably feels like he's a better ball 371 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 3: player than Dylan Gabriel. So but Dylan Gabriel is a baller, 372 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: and maybe he's undersized, but the dude's a baller. He 373 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: won the Big Ten, made it to the college playoffs, 374 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: like was a successful quarter back in college. Like like, 375 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: let's not downplay Dylan Gabriel for the sake of, you know, 376 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: trying to hype up, you know, Shador Sanders, Like, let's 377 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: see who wins the job. 378 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 379 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 380 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 381 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 382 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, the tight end for the Atlanta Falcons, is 383 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: dealing with a little bit of an issue, and Raheem Morris, 384 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris, he actually spoke about Kyle Pitts and not 385 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: being available dealing with some sort of an undisclosed injury 386 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: yesterday at OTA's extremely. 387 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 7: Cautious with Kyle right now and what's got what's got 388 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 7: going on? Obviously, you know, talk about injuries this time 389 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 7: of year, but definitely being cautious with them so you 390 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 7: won't see him. He's been here. He's done such a 391 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 7: great job of all stuff that we'd asked him. He's 392 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 7: been in every single meeting, he's been in every single 393 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 7: thing that we've done other than the field, and he's 394 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 7: been absolutely outstanding to be around. 395 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, all of a sudden, an undisclosed injury 396 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: for Kyle Pitts. And then you look around and you go, gosh, 397 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: sure are a lot of trade rumors involving Kyle Pitts 398 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: around the league, A guy who was drafted very high 399 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: but just hasn't quite lived up, even though he's shown 400 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: flashes to his potential there in Atlanta. 401 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: And I just wonder, is. 402 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: This undisclosed injury that he's dealing with code for Well, 403 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: we just don't want to get him hurt before we 404 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: end up trading the guy. And we're having conversations with people. 405 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: Maybe he's got the uh. Maybe this is the hyper 406 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: extended trade bait injury that's going on here. Maybe that's 407 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: what it is. Because I don't buy for one second 408 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: that Kyle Pitts has got some sort of an undis 409 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: closed injury. I think the Atlanta Falcons are trying to 410 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: make a deal and they're just keeping him out of 411 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: harm's way so they can execute this deal sooner rather 412 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: than later. 413 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: What do you think of that? 414 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: Bar Uh, it's not a horrible it's not a horrible theory. 415 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: Can I get a little bit of an endorsement? 416 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: It's not a horrible theory. I'll say this full awareness. 417 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: His contract does run out this year, and I think 418 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: that it's a matter of getting a contract extension done 419 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: at the least an extension or a new contract deal 420 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: done before you start putting him out there. I think 421 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: it might be as simple as that. So you think 422 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: it's more of an extension and not it's a negotiation. 423 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: I mean, he's speaking very highly of him, and listen, 424 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: Rahiem is a players coach. The players love him. He's 425 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: a relatable dude. So he's not going to say anything 426 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: crazy about col Pits unless it was really necessary. So 427 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: it could be a smoke screen to be able to 428 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: keep his value high and maybe see that a trade 429 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: suitor would would jump at it. I mean, there's certainly 430 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: people that could use him, there's teams that could use 431 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: use his services. But I think that he would be 432 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent valued as an Atlanta Falcon. And you 433 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: know he doesn't have a contract beyond this year. His 434 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: contract runs. 435 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: Out, so you think he's going to get a deal. 436 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: I think he's going to get a deal. His sticks 437 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: picks bam. 438 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 4: I think he's going to get traded. 439 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean they picked line, they picked up his they 440 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: picked up his fifth year option in twenty four in April, 441 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: they picked up his fifth year option. So I just 442 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: you know, I think he's going to he wants a deal. 443 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: I think he'll redo a deal. I think that that's 444 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: what they're waiting on it. They'll have a deal done. 445 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: By the way, one of the great fantasy football team 446 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: of all time as Kyle Pitts. You just assume he's 447 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: going to put up monster numbers and for some reason 448 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: it has not worked out. It is just not panned 449 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: out the way everybody thought it was. So we'll keep 450 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: you posted. But those are our picks, calling our shot 451 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: and Kyle Pitts. 452 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 453 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 454 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 455 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: We welcome in the man himself a Tuesday tradition. He 456 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: is Pete Prisco Senior NFL calumnist for CBS Sports. He's 457 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: a CBS Sports HQ analyst and you can get him 458 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: on X at Prisco CBS Pete, good morning, how are 459 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: we feeling? 460 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: Good morning? 461 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: Oh, Brady Quinn today? Huh? 462 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: Now? 463 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 6: Or next week or the week after? 464 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: Keep going, keeping, keep going going. 465 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 6: We're going going. How long. 466 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 3: He's going to be on an enter jazzer, bunny break? 467 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 6: You know how long? 468 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: A little while at. 469 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 6: Wile You know what, LeVar, You get a lot of 470 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 6: airtime that way. Then, because I know Brady, I know 471 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: Brady Brady. You know, we used to call it like 472 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: Brady would intercept. It would go okay, the host would 473 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 6: say something, then Brady would say something, and then it'd 474 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 6: come to me or whoever on the end. And then 475 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 6: always before it went back to the host, Brady had 476 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 6: intercept it and make his final points. You know what 477 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 6: I mean. He never played he never played dB in 478 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 6: his life, but he always knew how to intercept when 479 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 6: he was when it comes to sit on the deck, 480 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: I'll tell you that right now. You know what I say, LeVar, 481 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 6: what's good for me is good for me, and so 482 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 6: Brady's not there, it's good for you. You get more air. 483 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: Right, So, Pete, I got like listening to Jonas, you know, 484 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: that's all Pete. 485 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: I got to ask you a I got to ask 486 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: you a question because I wanted you to just further 487 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: explain something that you put on social media. I was 488 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: looking at one are your tweets from from Pete Prisco 489 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: Prisco CBS on X quote, it's that time of the year. 490 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: Every player at OTA's is in the best shape of 491 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: his life. Every surgery they had has been a success. 492 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: They are all ready to take the next step. And 493 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: even lollipop throws on air make this app droole. It's 494 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: boys of summertime, no pads, no tell I mean, what 495 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: sets you off in that direction? 496 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: Because every single day on Twitter or x every single day, 497 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 6: somebody is getting lauded for the way they look, or 498 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 6: how great or shape they're in, or this through they 499 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 6: put the video of a throw. Look at this guy, 500 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 6: he's throwing great, He's throwing one on one with nobody 501 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 6: covering anybody. I mean, give me a break. And so 502 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 6: it's just always been that way. I remember way back 503 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 6: in the day when I covered the Jaguars in the nineties, 504 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 6: this guy showed up and he was a wide receiver 505 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 6: and he came in and he was making all these 506 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 6: plays and he's talking all this smack, and then the 507 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: veterans came in. They said, wait, we get them in pads. 508 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 6: And as soon as you got him pads, he disappeared. 509 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: And so I just think that we get so enamored 510 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 6: with what's going on, and the reality is you can't 511 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: read anything into this. Nobody can hit, nobody can get 512 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 6: real physical. We don't know what they're doing because you 513 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 6: don't know if and I have many a quarterback when 514 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: I traveled around my training camp tours and talking to 515 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 6: guys and saying, look, if I don't know why they 516 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: chart passes in training camp, I might work on something 517 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 6: here where I wouldn't even do it in a game, 518 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 6: just to see if it might work and if it's intercepted, 519 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: oh well, And yet here we are charting plays. I 520 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 6: saw the other day at a Cleveland Browns camp they 521 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 6: charted the throws of the quarterbacks. What are we doing? 522 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy, they say, look like Tarzan Gang like Jane 523 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: that was. 524 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: You know, LeVar you know how it is. And by 525 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 6: the way, and by the way, having said all that, 526 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be at Bucksmith of Ota practice today was 527 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 6: here go get it. 528 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: Think another Bucks practice. There's a Sanders on the Bucks team, 529 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: so that'd be interesting to see how you know he's performing. 530 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: But I guess I want to ask you, Pete in 531 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: terms of am I wrong? You know, the coach Dion 532 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: Sanders came out, had to say what he had to 533 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: say about the situation with with Shador Am I wrong 534 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: for saying? Can we take the name out of the pick? 535 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: You're the fourth or fourth? I would want to say 536 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: fourth pick of the fifth round? There was a quarterback 537 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: taken in the third round they brought into free agents. 538 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: There's Deshaun Watson. That's like whatever his situation is? Am 539 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: I wrong for saying? If you take out and you 540 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: remove the name from that fifth round pick? What is 541 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: the likelihood of a fifth rounder surpassing a third rounder 542 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: that's first, first, and foremost, which is the largest one, 543 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: that's the biggest one. How does a fifth rounder overtake 544 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: a third rounder for one and then two? How does 545 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: a fifth rounder overtake that third rounder then overtake the 546 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: backup then overtake the starter to become the starter of 547 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: the team. How I mean, if you take the name 548 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: away from it and you look at it at its 549 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: bare minimum and exercise common sense, it doesn't make any sense. Pete, 550 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: Can you make it make sense for me? How should 551 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: we be looking at this Because to me, I'm not 552 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: going to look at it as it's Shador Sanders. I'm 553 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: going to look at it as this was a fifth 554 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: round draft pick. What are his his you know, possibilities 555 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: in terms of being a player on this team. 556 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 6: And I can guarantee you LeVar sentence exactly how the 557 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns are looking at it. I mean you made 558 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 6: the point. Look, Dylan Gabriel is picked in the third 559 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 6: round ahead of him for a reason. They clearly thought 560 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 6: he was a better prospect and a better player and 561 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 6: had the attention to be a better quarterback. Now that's 562 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 6: not to sit here and say that mishad Or Sanders 563 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 6: can't go in there and now play them. He can 564 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 6: and he has that opportunity. But when you look at 565 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 6: it on the surface, if his name wasn't Sanders and 566 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 6: it was something else, he'd be a fifth round pick 567 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 6: that everybody would sit there and say, oh, boy, I 568 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 6: hope he plays well enough to maybe even make the team. 569 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 6: That's the reality of it. And now they're talking about, 570 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 6: like you said, going past Dylan Gabriel, going past Picket, 571 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 6: going past Joe Flacco. I mean, let's get real. And sometimes, 572 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 6: you know, we put so much into this stuff before 573 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: the process, and when the guy goes in the fifth round, 574 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 6: everybody goes, oh, he got it. Nobody they didn't draft 575 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 6: him because of his dad. They didn't draft them because 576 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 6: of this. They didn't draft them because it fits around, 577 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 6: because that's what they thought of them. You know, I 578 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 6: was on with a guy when they did draft him, 579 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: one of our analysts, and he said, oh, they got 580 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 6: one over on Pittsburgh. I said, they got one over 581 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 6: on Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh wanted them, they could have drafted 582 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 6: him anytime they wanted to. Nobody wanted to pick him 583 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 6: until the fifth round. And that's why the fifth round 584 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: pick period. 585 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: He is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, 586 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ analyst, also a columnist for CBS Sports 587 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: as well too, and you can get him on ex 588 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: at Prisco CBS. All right, so then let me ask 589 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: you this because Russell Wilson, speaking of Pittsburgh, was the 590 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: Steelers quarterback last year. He goes on with this podcast 591 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: with Carmelo Anthony. He's talking about all the reasons that 592 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: he liked the Giants. You know, he's familiar with the 593 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: locker room because that's where he won a super Bowl 594 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: at MetLife. Malik neighbors Brian Dayball and his you know, 595 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: his acumen when it comes to calling plays as an 596 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: offensive mind. Isn't though, the real reason that he's in 597 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: New York with the Giants because the Steelers didn't want 598 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: him anymore. 599 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: Nor did anybody else except for the Giants. I mean, 600 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 6: let's be real. And by the way, the whole locker 601 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 6: room thing, give me a break. I won a super 602 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 6: Bowl there, so I'm familiar with it. Well that's why 603 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: you went there, Come on, But he said some of 604 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 6: the weirdest stuff. It makes no sense to me. He 605 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 6: went there because they gave him an opportunity to play 606 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 6: and be a quarterback on their team. And maybe not 607 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 6: for the long haul, but for right away he will 608 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 6: be probably be their starting quarterback on opening day. And 609 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 6: so that's why you went there. Why can't you just 610 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 6: say that. Why can't I just be honest about it. 611 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 6: I didn't have a lot of opportunities elsewhere. The Steelers 612 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 6: didn't want me back, and I decided to go to 613 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: the Giants. And that's fine, that's what you did. But 614 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: don't say it's because of the locker room and you 615 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: had elite neighbors and everything else. They wanted you. You 616 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 6: came to a deal, you went there. It had nothing 617 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 6: to do with anything else. 618 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 3: Pete bringing that fult today. 619 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: I mean, let's what did Russell Wilson do to you, Peet? 620 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 6: Nothing? I just I just I just always look, I look, 621 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, I 622 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 6: always thought he was a little overrated. And uh and 623 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 6: and you know, I kind of stood in that hill 624 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 6: and he had a couple of good years and people 625 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 6: came back at me, and and then the reality is 626 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 6: is he has been overrated. So just you are what 627 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 6: you are. You know, look, he's a good, solid quarterback. 628 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 6: I never thought he was a great quarterback. And so sometimes, 629 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 6: like I say, he had the top scoring defense in 630 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 6: the league four straight years in Seattle. You know, the 631 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 6: last team to do that was the fifties dynasty of 632 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 6: the Browns. I mean, it makes playing quarterback a lot easier. 633 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 6: And and based on that, one time I went around 634 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 6: asking a lot of quarterbacks that summer, what would you 635 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 6: rather have the top rank scoring defense, or or two 636 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 6: good wide receivers, And every single one of them said 637 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 6: the top rank. 638 00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: Scoringah, it makes your life easier, absolutely. Pete uh speaking 639 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: of top scoring, what's your take on Stephan diggs Man? Like, 640 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: start wherever you want to start, and wherever you like, 641 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: you know, you take it how you want to take it. 642 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, tucy man, come. 643 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 6: On, come on, what is he doing? First off, why 644 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 6: would you even be around if that is indeed what 645 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: that was? And we don't know that's what it was. 646 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 6: It sure looked like it. But if it was, why 647 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: even be around it? I mean, they you know, if 648 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: he was not doing it, which is you know, probably 649 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 6: maybe he did. Maybe he'll testament find out. But why 650 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 6: would you if that's what that was, why would you 651 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 6: be in your even be around it? It makes no sense. 652 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 6: Why would you be the one handing it out? I 653 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 6: don't get it. And I know, look, you get caught 654 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 6: up in the in the whole Hollywood lifestyle and whatever, 655 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 6: and and you get two enamored into that and maybe, maybe, 656 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 6: just maybe he wasn't doing it. He just got caught 657 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 6: up in and handed it off. Who knows, But he's 658 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 6: got to be better than that. And not only that, 659 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 6: you're coming off the thirty one and you're coming off 660 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 6: a major injury, I mean thirty one and coming off 661 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 6: a major injury wide receiver is never a good thing. 662 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 6: It's never a good thing when you have stuff going 663 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: on as well. So it was an ugly look for him, 664 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 6: h you know, And should it have happened? No, But again, 665 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 6: we don't know what that was. We have an idea 666 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 6: you think it is, but we I'm you know, I've 667 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 6: never seen that stuff, and neither of any of you, 668 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 6: I would imagine, So I just you know, who knows. 669 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 6: And by the way, I did do research on it, 670 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 6: just to look it up. It didn't cocaine. You know, 671 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 6: people think it's pink cocaine. That's not what it is. 672 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask your pete, like when 673 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 2: whatever you do to see like, what are the side effects? 674 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 4: Is it similar to what you know? 675 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 6: All right, party all night and get up the next 676 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 6: day and do it all over again. I mean, it's 677 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 6: like you know, no, I read, I read, I read, 678 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 6: I read what it was. You know what it is. 679 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 6: It's it's like some synthetic drug that has ketamine in 680 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 6: it and like Molly, and it keeps you up all 681 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: night partying and everything else. And I just don't know. 682 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 6: I don't understand why he would even be around that. 683 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 6: It makes no sense to me. So, I mean, I 684 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 6: could see when he gave it away. I saw how 685 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 6: happy is his audience was, so maybe that had something 686 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 6: to do with it. But I just don't understand why 687 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 6: he would even be around that. And by the way, 688 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 6: I want to see how the Patriots handle this, because 689 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 6: remember it's Mike Rabel. It's a whole new regime, and 690 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 6: you know they're not going to tolerate anything. Well, we'll see, 691 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 6: because he wandered onto the practice field yesterday and didn't 692 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 6: seem like there are any repercussions, did there. 693 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz's buddy Ian Rappafort said that they're not expected 694 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: to release Stefon Diggs. You know, they don't expect for 695 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: him to get cut or anything like that. 696 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 697 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 6: I wouldn't, no, I wouldn't. But the only thing that 698 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 6: would get him cut would be if he didn't look 699 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 6: like Stefan Diggs. Yeah, that's real. I mean that the 700 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 6: reality is, you know. And look, he was in Buffalo. 701 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 6: He was a pain of the ass. And I can 702 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 6: tell you this from being there and last summer they 703 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 6: were thought it was additioned by subtraction. When he was gone, 704 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 6: I mean, he became, you know, a guy that wanted 705 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 6: the ball all the time, and Josh Allen would you know, 706 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 6: lock in on him and he'd hear it from him 707 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 6: all the time. And not that they didn't have a 708 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 6: good relationship, because they liked each other. But that gets 709 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 6: annoying after a while, and then it bleeds over to 710 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 6: the other receivers. I mean, go back to Gabe Davis, 711 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 6: by the way, go back to Gave Davis in that 712 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 6: playoff game against the Chiefs way back in the day. 713 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 6: Remember how he looked like he was going to be 714 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 6: an emerging star. Yea, Well, well what happened to him? Well, 715 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 6: you know, I think he got Digs a little bit. 716 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 6: I think he got into that, you know, in the 717 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 6: fact that he was like, you know, I thought he 718 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 6: had arrived and he didn't. And so he goes to Jacksonville, 719 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 6: and you know, gets heavy, he got hurt a little bit, 720 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 6: and one of the same player now he's out there, 721 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 6: and so I think sometimes, you know, you like having 722 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 6: a wide receiver who wants the ball. And by the way, 723 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 6: they all want the ball. I mean, you know, I 724 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 6: go back to when I covered Jacksonville back to day 725 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: they had Jimmy Smith. It was a great, great, great, 726 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 6: great receiver who would have been a Hall of Famer 727 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 6: if his career and did derailed by you know, failed tests. 728 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 6: And Keenan McCardell. And Keenan was great too, And I 729 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 6: used to tell Keenan, I go, you're meaning because he 730 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 6: wanted the ball time. Then he went to Tampa and 731 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 6: it was keys Sean and Keenan and they won the 732 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. And I always used to say it was 733 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 6: me Sean and Meanan playing wide. 734 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 3: Hey, howing Jimmy Smith together was pretty wild though. That 735 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: was pretty much. 736 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 6: God they were. They were fantastic. Keenan McCardell, by the way, 737 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 6: now the wide receiver coach who but who actually was 738 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 6: there when a big part of Stephan Diggs development is 739 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 6: a wide receiver coach of the Minnesota Viking's one of 740 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 6: the best in the business. Uh, and he still would 741 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 6: complain about not getting the football. 742 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: That's the coach, Pete, Pete, I want to ask you 743 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: because this seems like a bunch of crap to me. 744 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts has an undisclosed injury and is not working 745 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: out with the Atlanta Falcons. And I think they're keeping 746 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: him safe because they're trying to trade him. 747 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: What say you? 748 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 6: They are trying to trade him and uh, but you 749 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 6: know what, there there's I don't think there's going to 750 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 6: be as a robust to market as they think it 751 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 6: might be out there. And look, everybody thought Kyle Pitts 752 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 6: had the tools, the talent, the skills to be a 753 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 6: big time tight end in this league. But he's not tough. 754 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 6: Let's be real. I mean that that's the knock on 755 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 6: him around the league. He's not tough, and that they 756 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 6: concerned about that, and so I want you want to 757 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 6: you know, he gets knocked around a little bit and 758 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 6: that's that's that's the knock on him around the league. 759 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 6: And so yeah, I don't think he has an injury. 760 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 6: I think they're sitting him on the sideline and uh 761 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 6: and letting them hope somebody makes a move. To go 762 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 6: get him. And and by the way, there's some guys 763 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 6: that you know, Jalen Ramsey's sitting there to be traded too. 764 00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 6: I mean, Miami totally bots Miami boughts that situation. Miami did. 765 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 6: Miami gave him a new contract last year, then paid 766 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 6: them a four million dollar roster bonus in March, and 767 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 6: now they want to trade them. Miami's a disaster that team. 768 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 6: They gave out all these extensions last year, threw them 769 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 6: around like nothing, and they're a disaster. And now Jalen 770 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 6: Ramsey is sitting there. Who's going to trade for Jalen 771 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 6: Ramsey in that contract unless Miami eats a bunch of it? 772 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 6: And will they be willing to eat a bunch of it? 773 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? H Pete. Did you see the question that was 774 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 3: asked to the receiver and Jamar Chase and Cincinnati about 775 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: preseason and the correlation of slow starts based off of 776 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 3: this new trend of how preseasons are being handled, Like 777 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 3: what what do you subscribe to? 778 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 6: Like? 779 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: What was your takeaway on that? Because to me, I've 780 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 3: always felt like preseason is a necessary evil. You gotta 781 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: feel what it feels like to tackle, you gotta feel 782 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 3: what it feels like to beled. You got to feel 783 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: what that the physicality of the game feels like in 784 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: order to get yourself ready for the regular season. Now, 785 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: I say that limited, right, first, first game limited, you know, 786 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 3: second game a little more. Third game you've you've played 787 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: into the second half and then you know you come out. 788 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 3: Now there's not the same amount of games anymore. But 789 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 3: what's your take on on how the preseason should be 790 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: handled by these pros and these coaches. 791 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 6: You're one hundred percent spot on. By the way, they 792 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 6: don't hit in camp anymore, barely. They don't tackle in 793 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 6: camp ever. And so if you don't play in the preseason, 794 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 6: by the time you play an opening week, that's the 795 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 6: first time you're having any contact or tackling. And that's 796 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 6: why if you look at the tackling in the first 797 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 6: month of the season, horrible. And they can do all 798 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 6: the drills they want on angles, and you know they 799 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 6: have dummies and electronic dummies they work on angles. Give 800 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 6: me a break, it's not the same. And you played 801 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 6: the game of our you know that you got to hit, 802 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 6: got to be and I think you know they've gotten 803 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 6: away from that. The fear of injury is become magnified 804 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 6: to the point where they're not getting the good fundamentals 805 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 6: in and I think it's hurtinged the gate. I mean, 806 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 6: when was the last time you've gone to a practice 807 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 6: in training camp and watched nine on seven the middle drill. 808 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 6: They don't do it anymore. 809 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 3: They don't. 810 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 6: Nobody lined up on the goal line and hits nobody. 811 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 6: It's it's minimal hitting, it's pass and tapping. But I'm 812 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 6: talking about a full on hitting drill. They don't do it. 813 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 6: And then so then they wonder what's wrong with the 814 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 6: offensive line. Well, offensive lines have to work together and 815 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 6: again go back to the dummies. You can work a 816 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 6: double team to the next level when you're working against 817 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 6: the dummy or your fellow offensive linemen who's standing there 818 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 6: like a load of a lump of you know, large there, 819 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 6: and you can get to them easily instead of a 820 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 6: two hundred and eighty pounds defensive tackle who can move. 821 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 6: Let's see how you handle that when you're trying to 822 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 6: get off him. Hope, you're you know, you're the tackle. 823 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 6: You get off him, get to the next level and 824 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 6: you think your guard has them handled, but he's quick enough. 825 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 6: The nights through and make the play. You don't know 826 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 6: how you're going to handle that, And so I think 827 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 6: that all the fundamentals of football have gone out the 828 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 6: window because we're so protective of the players now. Sometimes 829 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 6: you need to just go hit, you need to just 830 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 6: go tackle, and if you're not going to do it 831 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 6: in the preseason, you have to find a way to 832 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 6: do it somewhere, because I think when you get the 833 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,479 Speaker 6: Week one and you have it tackled and you haven't 834 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 6: been hit, and you haven't been jammed at the line 835 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 6: of scrimmage and thrown to the ground, I think that's 836 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 6: where we're losing a lot of the good football early 837 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 6: in the season. 838 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 2: Pete, before I let you go, just wanted to get 839 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: a prediction from you. Obviously, the your Florida Panthers are 840 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 2: taking on my Edmonton Oilers, and I know Lebar and 841 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 2: I are big Oilers fans, so I just wanted to 842 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: know how you thought that's you are? 843 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bar and I. 844 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 6: Both No, you're not. LeVar is not LeVar is not it. 845 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 6: LaVar is not an Edmonton Oiler. Say he couldn't name 846 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 6: one player on it. 847 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: Penn and Caps, give me, give me, give. 848 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 6: Me, give me an Edmonton oiler player, LeVar. 849 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 3: I told you I'm Pins and Caps, I'm Penguins, okay. 850 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 6: But you still shouldn't be able to give me an 851 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 6: ed You still should be able to give me an 852 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 6: Edmonnton oiler player. 853 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: No, I shouldn't. I don't, I don't watch. 854 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 6: He's the best player in the world. 855 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: Connor McDavis, I'm today years old when I knew that, 856 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 3: today years old. 857 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 6: He's the best player to work And Jony, you're not 858 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 6: You're not, You're not a Edmonton oiler. 859 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: No. 860 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to get you get your okay. 861 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 4: By the way, bitting fire. 862 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 6: Off, how long has it been since Canada won a 863 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 6: Stanley Cup? 864 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 4: Was it ninety three? Was it the Canadians last time. 865 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 6: It's been a long, long, long, long time. And you 866 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 6: know what, it's going to be another long, long year 867 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 6: because Florida is a better team. They're tougher, they're more physical, 868 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 6: and we saw last year what happens when you're physical 869 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 6: that the Edmonton Oilers team, they go hide and they're 870 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 6: going to beat him up. No, Zach Heyman is big 871 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 6: for Edmonton. Uh And the depth of the Florida Panthers 872 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 6: is way too much and they beat him up, they'll 873 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 6: beat him in six six games, not gonna go seven 874 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 6: this time around to beat him in six. 875 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: Look at that hockey analysis, Pete, Prisco there, I will. 876 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 6: Tell you about Kinner. The goalie has been playing well. 877 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 6: I'm a little he's played well for for Edmonton. But 878 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 6: you know what, before he started playing really well, he 879 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 6: was going really bad. So I think he's gonna gave 880 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 6: a chance to go really rotten. And Lebroston never goes. 881 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 4: Are you going to get to a You're going to 882 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 4: get to a game in Sunrise? There, Pete? You get 883 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 4: a ticket too? 884 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 6: Maybe because I'm going out to training camp, I mean 885 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 6: the mini camp next week, so I don't know. Maybe, 886 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 6: but I will definitely be glued to every single one 887 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 6: of them. I love it. I can't wait. 888 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 2: There he is, get him on x at Prisco, CBS, 889 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: your NFL Calumnist, the CBS Sports CB Economy. 890 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 6: That's in the world of our Connommicavid. 891 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,879 Speaker 3: I won't remember people will I will not use my 892 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: my brain cells to commit that to memory.