WEBVTT - 9. Agents of Sabotage (Season 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Diversion audio. A note this episode contains descriptions of violence

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<v Speaker 1>that may be disturbing for some audiences. Please take care

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<v Speaker 1>in listening. This series is based on historical characters and

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<v Speaker 1>real events. Some dialogue has been imagined for dramatic purposes

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<v Speaker 1>when no primary source material is available. Virginia Hall's life

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<v Speaker 1>had changed again. She was back and occupied France, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was no longer working for the British. She was

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<v Speaker 1>an agent of the O S S, America's first independent

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence agency, the forerunner of the CIA. Virginia was living

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<v Speaker 1>in the Cone farmhouse of a respected resistance leader named

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Vessroau. She was spending the majority of her existence

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<v Speaker 1>in disguise as an old woman, decked out in multiple

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<v Speaker 1>wolf skirts, makeshift prosthetics, and dyed gray hair, all the

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<v Speaker 1>while constantly walking by wanded posters stabled around town with

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<v Speaker 1>sketches of the limping lady. But this new life promised

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia is something she'd been waiting for since she'd had

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<v Speaker 1>a fleet France almost eighteen months earlier, the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>take the fight directly to the Nazis. After making initial contact,

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Vesserot got straight to the point with his newest operative.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let to you, Virginia, but they've got no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what's they're doing out there? They need the structure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mackie was a new faction of French, British and

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<v Speaker 1>German freedom fighters. I called them Ragtag in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>They were scrappy guerrilla warfare fighters who could blend in

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<v Speaker 1>with the French citizen ray and sabotage German trains, trucks

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<v Speaker 1>and tanks using weapons air dropped by the British. What

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<v Speaker 1>actions have they been engaged in the confection a run

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<v Speaker 1>occasional ambushes on wandering German forces. But our sizes are

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<v Speaker 1>growing too large. It's good we have more men joining

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<v Speaker 1>the resistance, but when now in a difficult position, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're too large, we attract attention. We'll never built an

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<v Speaker 1>army big enough to beat back the Nazis, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the food or weapons to supply our current stock.

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<v Speaker 1>The sad truth as the matter is, we work better

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<v Speaker 1>in the shadows, and more men shrink our cover. How

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<v Speaker 1>many just over a hundred now, Split them up, arrange

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty five in each group, trend them and them separately.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone who could lead the other groups

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm off training each other. Yes, Colonel you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Steven Talty and from diversion. This is good Assassin's

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<v Speaker 1>Season two. Being killed would be the easy part. Being

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<v Speaker 1>tortured would be the hard part. Our intel suggests she

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<v Speaker 1>is behind many of the prison bricks all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>She's dangerous, so sabotage plus a little espionage paramilitary operations

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<v Speaker 1>make things blow up. The message for Captain Bobby, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I have found the nest of the Limping Lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode nine. Agents of Sabotage in May of Virginia had

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<v Speaker 1>split Colonel Vessero's Macki faction into smaller groups of fighters,

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<v Speaker 1>each allowing them to continue working in secret without attracting

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<v Speaker 1>attention from the Nazis. The Makis were ecstatic to be

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<v Speaker 1>led by a real secret agent, though they were slightly

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<v Speaker 1>put off by the site of Virginia in disguise as

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<v Speaker 1>an elderly limping woman. But as Brad Catling, Virginia's great nephew,

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<v Speaker 1>reminded us when we spoke to him, she had a

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<v Speaker 1>commanding presence. I mean, if she walked in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew who was in charge immediately. The words that

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<v Speaker 1>she spoke were inevitabilities. In fact, there was one member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Marquis that had worked with Virginia who said

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<v Speaker 1>that she was very strict and very authoritative, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was one instance where this band said that he had

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<v Speaker 1>taken a home, Eric Bolloxing from Virginia because he hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>done the right thing. In the beginning of her work

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<v Speaker 1>with the Maquis, Virginia felt it necessary to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>her cover. After all, she didn't know who could be

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<v Speaker 1>a defector secretly giving information back to the enemy, and

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't have time to interrogate them all. She was

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<v Speaker 1>still haunted by Robert Alesh, the only man who had

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<v Speaker 1>successfully burned her back in November of forty two. Alesha

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<v Speaker 1>was still out there somewhere, likely still looking for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's another reason why she split the Maquis into

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<v Speaker 1>smaller groups. She could communicate distinct information to each and

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<v Speaker 1>if one group was compromised, the others wouldn't be Scouting

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<v Speaker 1>out a rat among twenty five men is difficult, but

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<v Speaker 1>much simpler than among a hundred. Virginia's first lesson was

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<v Speaker 1>to teach the makee man how to hail parachute drops

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<v Speaker 1>for supplies. She gave them appropriate times for scheduling cloudy

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<v Speaker 1>nights in the middle of the week, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a list of code words for specific items. Maggots was

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<v Speaker 1>the name for anything related to explosive materials, dough used

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<v Speaker 1>for demolition items, and yeast for incendiaries. Virginia also provided

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<v Speaker 1>radio codes so they could schedule the drops when they

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<v Speaker 1>needed them, but this came with a condition. Too many

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<v Speaker 1>drops scheduled would signal locations and routines to the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>The drops were lifelines to the resistance. If they were abused,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marquis would be obliterated in a few weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>the Allies would lose one of their most important resistance groups.

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<v Speaker 1>So Virginia counseled the Marquis on how to keep their

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<v Speaker 1>actions under the radar literally. She also taught them how

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<v Speaker 1>to suss out bad intel broadcast by undercovered Germans. By

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<v Speaker 1>this point in time, the Nazis were doing everything in

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<v Speaker 1>their power to sabotage the growing Marquis line. By late

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<v Speaker 1>May of forty four, French resistors were getting ANTSI. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been told to expect the arrival of the Americans, who

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<v Speaker 1>are planning their invasion of Europe, but had been given

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<v Speaker 1>no confirmed timeline. The message was clear reinforcements were coming,

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<v Speaker 1>but the time and day that was a different, ambiguous story,

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<v Speaker 1>and every day of waiting saw the Nazis become more

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<v Speaker 1>and more brutal as they upped their retaliations against the

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<v Speaker 1>French citizenry. The Germans were expecting the American invasion too,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to dwindle French forces as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing this escalation, Virginia made the call that the Maki

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<v Speaker 1>would halt all major operations for a time. She wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to attack right before the Americans crossed the border. That

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<v Speaker 1>way they could sabotage German equipment and give the Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>less time to repair or restrategize. Richis London callings in

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<v Speaker 1>the European news service of the British postcast incorporation. Every evening,

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<v Speaker 1>the resistance operatives would huddle around the radio and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to broadcasts made by the BBC France. They were waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the message that the Americans had arrived and the

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<v Speaker 1>invasion had begun, so most evenings were disappointing as the

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<v Speaker 1>notice wasn't given the little call, the little call, the

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<v Speaker 1>American novel lamp, because the American girls lacrobello for the few.

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<v Speaker 1>All the truth direct me who. Of course, the English

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<v Speaker 1>didn't rule the airways alone. During this period, there was

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<v Speaker 1>another voice broadcasting, and she was taunting the Allied forces

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<v Speaker 1>from the safety of Berlin. I left on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of profit her work here. I'm not on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of Aldabelt and his Jewish fairness and his British fairness,

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<v Speaker 1>because Anton brought up to be one under decent American.

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<v Speaker 1>There of everything Americans constable thing, concerts of our enemies

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<v Speaker 1>and the elomy complicie to those people who are taking

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<v Speaker 1>against Germany today and include angels ling in the highly

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<v Speaker 1>against America town. Her name was access Sally, and her

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<v Speaker 1>goals were simple, to infuriate and demoralize the American troops

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<v Speaker 1>who were waiting to invade. She had tried time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again to become an actress of Summary now and

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<v Speaker 1>on Broadway, and fails every time. That's Richard Lucas. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote access Sally, The American Voice of Nazi Germany, the

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<v Speaker 1>first biography of Mildred Giller's also known as access Sally

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<v Speaker 1>Gillers was born in the United States but moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Germany in the nineteen thirties and the hopes of finding fame.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just languishing until she got to Germany. She

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<v Speaker 1>found that she was instead of at the bottom, she

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<v Speaker 1>was near the top, mixing with people who had some

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<v Speaker 1>influence in the German film industry. She was also determined

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<v Speaker 1>to be a success at any cost. In y Geller's

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<v Speaker 1>got a job at the German State Radio Corporation as

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcaster for Reich Radio. She would speak directly to

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<v Speaker 1>American soldiers fighting abroad and their sweethearts back home, and

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<v Speaker 1>she would say, I'm speaking to the women of a miracle,

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<v Speaker 1>the women of America. Don't you wish that you had

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<v Speaker 1>your your husband's home now? Instead they're off fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish and the British. She would talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>American fighting and she would insinuate that their wives and

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<v Speaker 1>sweethearts were fooling around behind their back with the fore ASTs.

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<v Speaker 1>Her broadcasts became extremely popular. I think they are popular

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<v Speaker 1>because of the music and because she was playing jazz,

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<v Speaker 1>which was illegal in Germany. She was playing things that

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<v Speaker 1>no other person on Berlin radio was able to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was immensely popular with most of the soldiers said,

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<v Speaker 1>we never paid any attention to the political content. We

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<v Speaker 1>just listened to the music. And it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a joke too. Because Geller's remained in the American Citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>she was tried as a trader after the war. She

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered because she couldn't bear to part with the

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<v Speaker 1>tape recordings of her broadcasts. A lot of it was

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<v Speaker 1>her ego, her arrogance, her overwhelming desire to be remembered.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the trial, she was convicted. Our

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<v Speaker 1>only one count, and that counts treason. Finally, on June one,

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<v Speaker 1>at nine o'clock at night, the broadcast of Resistance was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for arrived first year as the messengers country the

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<v Speaker 1>Long Sobs of the Violet per formula long in Real,

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<v Speaker 1>Long Off. It came in the form of a poem

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<v Speaker 1>written by the famous nineteenth century French poet Paul Verlaine,

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<v Speaker 1>the lines the long Sobs of the Violence of Bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>We're broadcast by the BBC France channel. It was code

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<v Speaker 1>for the Americans are coming. The Resistance was instructed to

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<v Speaker 1>remain by their radios and await another broadcast the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of the poem that would signal the forty window

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<v Speaker 1>in which the Americans would arrive. And then four days later,

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<v Speaker 1>on June five, the second half of the poem came

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<v Speaker 1>wound my heart with a monotonous languor. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>signal D Day was coming. Ladies and gentlemen, we may

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<v Speaker 1>be approaching a fateful hour. All night long. Bullet must

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<v Speaker 1>have been pouring in from Berlin claiming that D Day

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<v Speaker 1>is here, claiming that the invasion of Western Europe has begun.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet on the ground, on the ground, take cover, he

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<v Speaker 1>walked days. On June, over a hundred and fifty thousand American,

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<v Speaker 1>British and Canadian troops stormed the beaches of Normandy, France,

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<v Speaker 1>and led the invasion against the Germans. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the end for the Nazi occupation of France

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<v Speaker 1>and is regarded as the turning of the tide for

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<v Speaker 1>all of World War two. Quickly here the tides turning

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<v Speaker 1>against the Nazis meant it was time for Virginia Hall

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<v Speaker 1>to get her hands dirty again. Keep your voice down,

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<v Speaker 1>speak only when required goo. While Allied troops were storming

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<v Speaker 1>the beaches of northwest France. Virginia instructed groups of the

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<v Speaker 1>Maquis to set bombs on railroad tracks all around hone

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<v Speaker 1>in the center of the country, laying the groundwork for

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<v Speaker 1>the Allies to continue beating back the German forces. While

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<v Speaker 1>the Marquis groups split up, Virginia herself decided to chaperone

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<v Speaker 1>two frenchmen, Robert and Hiel, on their own excursion. They

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at their designated location and around midnight and quickly

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<v Speaker 1>went to work. The tracks led out of Cone about

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<v Speaker 1>ten miles into the nearby city of sure Pray, Laire,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Nazis would need reinforcement if the Allied forces

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<v Speaker 1>kept pushing forward. Packet in here under the steel niece

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<v Speaker 1>is what needs to take the brunt of the explosion.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see anything. We need to light to know lights.

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<v Speaker 1>There are patrols outlook out sail walk in my books.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it off of me. I don't volunteer boats in

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<v Speaker 1>my lap. Just as Virginia and her men were placing

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<v Speaker 1>the explosives on the tracks, a two man Nazi patrol

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<v Speaker 1>strolled down the other side. We'll find out what happens

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. Hi This is Stephen Talty, host of

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<v Speaker 1>Makia operatives, Robert and Ngiel, rose as they watched two

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<v Speaker 1>German patrol guards stroll their way down the train tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>They had just tied two packs of plastic explosives to

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<v Speaker 1>the rails, and there was no time to remove that.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Nazis saw them, there was no doubt the

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<v Speaker 1>explosives would be discovered and the trio would be shot

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<v Speaker 1>on site. We can shoot them now before they see us.

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<v Speaker 1>If you shoot the noise, will you just bring more gods?

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<v Speaker 1>It will give us time to run and run. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you plan to just lead them back to camp?

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<v Speaker 1>They'll luck us down like dogs, do not shoot hid.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Nazis approached, Virginia appeared the worst. It was

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<v Speaker 1>practically a certainty that they'd be seen and shot. But

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<v Speaker 1>as the German soldiers got closer, she noticed posing to

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<v Speaker 1>stumble against the brush. Their mutterings were nonsensical, and she

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<v Speaker 1>realized they were drawn. Maybe they had a chance on

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<v Speaker 1>to throw these when they done roll under that bush

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<v Speaker 1>this way. One of the Germans stumbled, the other, catching him.

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<v Speaker 1>In this brief window, Virginia tossed a rock, which clattered

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground behind the soldiers. As they turned, Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>and her men managed to roll under nearby shrubbery covered

0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>by the leaves and the darkness. What was that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans? The inision has started. The Nazis approached the

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.800
<v Speaker 1>area where Virginia and the others were hiding. Yeah, let

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.800
<v Speaker 1>him come. Uh the lit bullets just as well as

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the Roopers. They're going to see us. Don't shoot the shields.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait do you see that? Just something? Don't uh give

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anything place. You're not getting your promotion tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ordne guy us made the Nazis didn't find them.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia let out a sigh of relief. Robert asked her

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<v Speaker 1>if they should finish setting up the explosives. Virginia was adamant.

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<v Speaker 1>How else do you expect to win this war? Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>supervised Robert and Gil as they finished their work. They

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<v Speaker 1>tied the pack of explosives to fog signals, two small

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<v Speaker 1>breakable tubes that were glued to the top of the tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>The mechanism was a pretty simple one. Once the train

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<v Speaker 1>rode over and crushed the signals, the plastic explosives would

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<v Speaker 1>detonate under the track, derailing the train, warping the tracks

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and stopping the transport of valuable German supplies. The Marquis

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep the Germans either in the skies, where

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<v Speaker 1>they'd have to deal with American and British pilots or

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<v Speaker 1>on foot, where they'd have to congregate in large groups

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in order to transport supplies. By sabotaging the trains, the

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<v Speaker 1>resistance could poke holes in major German movements. The next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia awoke to good news. The Machi had sabotaged five

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<v Speaker 1>separate rail tracks the night before, derailing four trains and

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<v Speaker 1>obliterating the only feasible pathways for the Germans to move

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 1>supplies and information around France. With the American invasion quickly

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<v Speaker 1>advancing from the northwest, the Nazis would have no choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to retreat. As the master mind, Virginia's operations helped

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<v Speaker 1>turn the tide of the war in France. She went

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<v Speaker 1>on to become a major player in an astounding seventy

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>one rail sabotages that followed, which in turn served to

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<v Speaker 1>inspire even greater French resistance across the country. Allied armies

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of Normandy pushed closer to Eich. Other immediate objectives the

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<v Speaker 1>port of Cherbourg and the railway town of can Ten

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<v Speaker 1>miles Inland, an American flying wedge of parachute troops and

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<v Speaker 1>infantrymen has cut the main line of German communications to

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<v Speaker 1>Cherbourg by capturing the town of Saint Mara Gliza, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>miles away and sweeping on across the main Peninsula railway

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<v Speaker 1>and the highway that runs parallel to it. Virginia's reputation

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<v Speaker 1>in both the O s S and the Maquis continued

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. In a month's time, she reported to London

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<v Speaker 1>that she was now leading a group of four hundred

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Maquis foot soldiers separated its smaller groups. She continued to

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<v Speaker 1>ray neal London with new reports of German movements and intelligence,

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.479
<v Speaker 1>as well as continuing to schedule parachute drops to arm

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the growing resistance. She led dozens of sabotage missions, trapping

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Nazi soldiers with detonations that destroyed bridges, tunnels, and railroads.

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<v Speaker 1>The Germans were becoming boxed in supplies dwindling. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a watershut period for the resistance. They were starting to

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 1>win and other resistance leaders were starting to mimic Virginia's plots.

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<v Speaker 1>All over France, different factions of the Maquis were driving

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the Nazis into embarrassing losses and at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>growing in number. By August, Virginia was leading almost fred

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Maquis resistance fighters. She had come a long way in

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<v Speaker 1>a decade, but she still found herself thinking about her

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>old adversary, Robert Alesh. He had receded to the back

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 1>burner as Virginia took up command to the Marquis, though

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he consistently plagued her nightmares. At the end of the

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.919
<v Speaker 1>war was around the corner. She wondered if she'd ever

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>see him again. She wondered if a leash would be

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<v Speaker 1>brought to justice, and if she'd be the one to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. More about the fate of Alesh after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>After infiltrating Virginia's s OE faction of heckler In and

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<v Speaker 1>turning over many of Virginia's operatives to the s S,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Alsh eventually found himself in an uncomfortable predicament. Hello,

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>can you hear me? This is Alesh awaiting ortis. I

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<v Speaker 1>am on day three of radio silence. If the RASH

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<v Speaker 1>needs me out of Paris, I really need money and transportation,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have not received any new intent. Please uspond.

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<v Speaker 1>In June of nineteen forty four, just days after D Day,

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 1>the Germans slowly began to retreat from Paris, leaving the

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>city torn between Allied and Axis forces. Robert Alesh was

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<v Speaker 1>not an idiot. He could tell that the Germans were

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<v Speaker 1>losing this war. In a matter of three months, the

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis were pushed out of the majority of France, beaten

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>back by combined American, British and French forces, before the

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Allies regained control of Paris and liberated the city on

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<v Speaker 1>August twenty fifth, nineteen forty four. Alesh quickly escaped the country,

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<v Speaker 1>traveling back to his original home in Luxembourg. There, nobody

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 1>knew about his association with the Nazis and he wasn't

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>considered a criminal, but he still needed a job. It

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>was here he decided to officially return to the seminary,

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<v Speaker 1>so he forged a letter from the Archbishop of Paris

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to a Belgian bishop. In it, the fake archbishop spoke

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>highly of Aleshous credentials and even noted that he attempted

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to rebel against the Germans during the occupation. His deception

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>was successful, and beginning in November nineteen forty four, Alash

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<v Speaker 1>began work as a chaplain in Brussels. What Alesh didn't

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>know was that Virginia decided to spend her last months

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>as an intelligence agent with O. S. S writing up

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>a report on Alesh, his movements during the war, as

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>well as his methods and allegiances. It was a damning

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>article that provided a physical description of the man, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as crediting Alesh with espionage and treason that led

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<v Speaker 1>to the arrests and deaths of multiple resistance members. Virginia

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>may not have been given the latitude to hunt for

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Alesh herself, but she refused to let him get away

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<v Speaker 1>that easily. Just six months later, in Robert, Lesh was

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>discovered and identified by the Allies in Luxembourg, arrested and

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>sent back to France. They had used Virginia's reporting to

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>track him down. I know you as me. He is

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a verdict. Alesha must have wondered how exactly he'd been caught.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>He's been so careful for so long. As the jury

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>reached a consensus, he must have thought back on the

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>limping lady. He had found her, but not captured her,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>damaged her network of spies, who was never able to

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>hand her over to his superiors. He must have believed

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that somehow she had a hand in his arrest. Of course,

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we know what Aleshed didn't that. Virginia's writings painted a

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>damning portrait of a priest who abdicated his divinical duties

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>in order a prophet of the Nazi regime, and it

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was her reporting that did him in. Mr Lee, Judge,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the court finds Robert Alsh guilty of high treason. He

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>turned out to be the worst of all possible characters.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>That's bread Catling again, Virginia's grand nephew. She was right,

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>she was right to to not trust him completely, but

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately the rest of her network did, and you know,

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they paid the price. There was only one resolution for

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a lesh. He was found guilty of his crimes and

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to death. He was executed by firing squad on January.

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<v Speaker 1>The end of World War Two was indeed around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>The l has continued to advance, the German forces in

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the East fell to a hellish Russian winter, and on

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<v Speaker 1>April the German radio has just announced that Hitler is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Adolf Hitler committed suicide in a brilliant bunker. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>breaking into our programs for the second time tonight, this

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<v Speaker 1>time with some splendid news from Moscow. Berlin has fallen

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>eight days later, Germany surrendered to the Allied Powers. Note

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<v Speaker 1>that the first atomic bomb was dropped on the Americans

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>would go on to drop two atomic bombs on the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August six and eight,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>killing over a hundred thousand people. Exactly what that cloud

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>looked like, I do not suppose any words will ever describe.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike any other phenomenon in the world has ever seen,

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it was possessed of some diabolical activity, as though it

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<v Speaker 1>were a horrible form of life. Just days later, the

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<v Speaker 1>President announced at seven pm today the unconditional and from

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<v Speaker 1>an unqualified surrender of the Japanese. And then, finally, on

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<v Speaker 1>September two, world War two officially ended. Yes, the NDC

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<v Speaker 1>mobile unit in the heart center on the posting focus

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<v Speaker 1>of a Shire station time enjoy esterday and looked uptown

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<v Speaker 1>over a toy feeling writing back faces lifted charley and

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<v Speaker 1>brightly and grisly happy at the back. In May of Virginia,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Hall had returned to Paris to take stock of the resistance.

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>She discovered that many of her friends and associates hadn't survived.

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Some had been executed on site by the Nazis. Others

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 1>were worked to death in concentration camps, and some disappeared

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>without a trace. Doctor Hussey, however, was not among the fatalities.

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>He had survived both the friend prison and then eighteen

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>horrible months in Buchebald and reunited with Virginia. During her

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>time in the city, Virginia realized that even if the

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<v Speaker 1>war in Europe was going to end, there was still

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work to be done bringing justice to

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the surviving Nazis. Just as she did with Robert Alesh,

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Virginia wrote up multiple reports with regards to what she

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>saw during her time with both Britain's s OE and

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the American Office of Strategic Services. Her reports named multiple

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Nazis and spies and would be instrimental in their respective

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>arrests and trials. But when you think of a trailblazer,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>she absolutely embodies it. It's someone who was willing to

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>defy all convention him. She broke so many barriers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think she she just embodies that selfless sacrifice, that

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>sense of mission that is to that extreme, I think

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>is fairly rare. She did it because she thought she

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>was fundamentally writing a wrong that's Karen Schaefer, a former

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>CIA operative we heard from an episode six. Schaefer sees

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia is a huge inspiration, a key figure in the

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>history of intelligence, and in fact, with Schaeffer retired in

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine, she was given a portrait of Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>There could not be a more incredibly thoughtful retirement gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting me even in the same planet with Virginia Hall

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is about as good as it gets. You don't want

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>bands practice like marching bands practice. The conductor is standing

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>on the platform, Brad Cat, Virginia's great nephew. It seems

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to me that Virginia saw the world that way. She

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>saw the big picture as well as the infinite details,

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and was able to react within those and make really

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<v Speaker 1>good decisions. On and the now declassified memorandum to President

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Truman O s S Director William J. Donovan wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Virginia Hall, an American civilian working for this agency

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<v Speaker 1>in the European theater of operations, has been awarded the

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<v Speaker 1>Distinguished Service Cross for extraordinary heroism in connection with military

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<v Speaker 1>operations against the enemy. We understand that Miss Hall is

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<v Speaker 1>the first civilian woman in this war to receive the

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Distinguished Service Cross, despite the fact that she was well

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<v Speaker 1>known to the Gestapo. Ms Hall voluntarily turned to France

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in March ninety four to assist in sabotage operations against

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the Germans. Through her courage and physical endurance, even though

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>she had previously lost a leg in an accident. Miss

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Hall succeeded in organizing, arming, and training French resistance forces,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>which took part in many engagements with the enemy and

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a number of acts of sabotage, resulting in the demolition

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of many bridges, the destruction of a number of supply trains,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and the disruption of enemy communications. Inasmuch as an award

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of this kind has not been previously made during the

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>present war, you may wish to make the presentation personally. Ever,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the pragmatist Virginia was only willing to accept the prestigious

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Distinguished Service Cross once the fanfare around it died down.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>She refused to distract from honoring the thousands of lives

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that were lost in pursuit of stopping the Germans. Virginia

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>retired from the O s S shortly after, on September

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth, nineteen forty five. She would then go on

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to work for the U. S A's newly formed Central

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Agency in nineteen forty seven, as well as the

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Special Activities Division, but she was never able to get

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<v Speaker 1>along with her superiors, who seemed to undervalue the work

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<v Speaker 1>she'd done in the war. In nineteen fifty seven, Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>married Frenchman Paul Guayot, an agent she had met in

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<v Speaker 1>her O s s days, and finally retired in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six. Of course, she would have continued on had

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<v Speaker 1>she not reached the mandatory retirement age of sixty. Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul eventually moved to a farm in Barnesville, Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>where she lived out the rest of her days until

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<v Speaker 1>she passed away in nineteen eighty two. It's impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>state the historical importance of Virginia Hall. She was an

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional secret agent and one of the most important spies

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<v Speaker 1>in American history. It's believed that were her hands on work,

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<v Speaker 1>she saved thousands of lives across Europe. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental figure in defeating the Nazis. The language employed in

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<v Speaker 1>the official Distinguished Service Cross citation notes working in a

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<v Speaker 1>region infested with enemy troops and continually at the risk

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<v Speaker 1>of capture, torture, and death. Ms Hold is played rare courage, perseverance,

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<v Speaker 1>and ingenuity. Her efforts contributed materially to the successful operations

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<v Speaker 1>of the Resistance forces in support of the Allied Expeditionary

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<v Speaker 1>forces in the liberation of France. How do we define

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<v Speaker 1>our heroes through their work, their beliefs, their sacrifices. Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>Hall was not just a spy. She existed as a

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<v Speaker 1>beacon of determination and persistence in the face of fascism.

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<v Speaker 1>At every turn, Virginia continued to fight, to live undercover,

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<v Speaker 1>in uncomfortable he in hellish circumstances, all to rid our

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<v Speaker 1>world of an epidemic that wiped out millions of lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia refused to accept limits placed on her by others.

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<v Speaker 1>She battled sexism, able ism, and agism throughout her career,

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<v Speaker 1>and she still made for herself an identity not out

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<v Speaker 1>of ego, but of service. She is the very definition

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<v Speaker 1>of a hero. Coming up on the next episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Good Assassins, they took everything out they could. They started

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<v Speaker 1>making fires in the synagogues. Well, when this news got

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<v Speaker 1>back to Gebel's and to Hitler, they blew refused. At least,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what most people believed for more than seventy years.

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<v Speaker 1>But in two thousand sixteen, Armad Purer, the German journalists

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke to meet an amazing discovery. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>any questions for us about Good Assassins, if you're curious

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<v Speaker 1>about some aspect of Virginia Hall story, or have any

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<v Speaker 1>season is hosted by Stephen Talti and written by C. D. Carpenter,

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<v Speaker 1>Produced and directed by Kevin Thompson for Real Jet Packs Productions.

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<v Speaker 1>Story editing by Jacob Bronstein with editorial direction from Scott Waxman,

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<v Speaker 1>additional research and reporting by Sophie McNulty. Theme music by

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