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Speaker 1: Blood on the Tracks is the production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and Double Elvis. Phil Specter was a musical genius,

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Speaker 1: one of the most successful record producers of all time.

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Speaker 1: He's now sitting behind bars, serving a nineteen years to

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Speaker 1: life sentence for murder. This is his story told by

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Speaker 1: his so called friends. This is Special Agent Polomon with

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Speaker 1: the Federal Grew of Investigation, working case number double oh

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Speaker 1: four Dash one zero DAP seven four one nine case

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Speaker 1: subject of Specter, Philip Harvey. This information pertains to the

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Speaker 1: period end in December. Interview subject of Specter, Veronica Yvette.

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Speaker 1: Interview number seven dash zero five Dash three six Dash

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Speaker 1: six three Recall number one, February fourteenth, two thousand five.

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Speaker 1: As time went on, they started writing about him being

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Speaker 1: a genius. He'd say, yeah, I am a genius, and

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Speaker 1: then they'd say he's the mad genius. So he became

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Speaker 1: the mad genius. Anything they wrote about him became He's

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Speaker 1: a recluse, So he became a recluse. I think if

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Speaker 1: Phil hadn't read anything about himself, he'd still be the same.

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Speaker 1: But that's the story that he became a replicate of

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Speaker 1: everything he read about himself. I wouldn't say he's mad.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times he's pretending to be,

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Speaker 1: because I've seen him straight, and I've seen him act

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Speaker 1: with that way of his A lot of it may

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Speaker 1: be mad, but a lot of it is certainly intentional

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Speaker 1: to let people wonder what is this guy all about.

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Speaker 1: I think he's always wanted He's always wanted to be

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Speaker 1: an artist on his own. He just didn't have the

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Speaker 1: talent own or the voice. I think he's afraid to

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Speaker 1: go back in the studio, afraid that it won't be

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Speaker 1: a hit and that people would start saying he's not

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Speaker 1: such a genius. Wants to keep that title, and you

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Speaker 1: can't keep that title. We gont We have a little

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Speaker 1: bottle traps Chapter two. Phil Specter and Ronnie Specter m Oh, honey,

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Speaker 1: I knew them all the rolling Stones opened for us.

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Speaker 1: Keith Richards put his eyes on me, honey. He wished

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Speaker 1: his hands were on me too. When the Beatles came

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Speaker 1: to America for the first time, Ringo called me from

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Speaker 1: their hotel room. They were so green. Can you picture it?

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Speaker 1: Ringo star calling Veronica been at a girl from Spanish

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Speaker 1: Harlem calling Ronnie for a hot tip. From the first time,

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Speaker 1: Me and the girls put our hair up and beehives.

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Speaker 1: From the first time we walked down West forty with

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Speaker 1: thick eyeliner, dressed to the nines, we floated on air.

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Speaker 1: We glided real smooth, you see. From the first time, Honey,

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Speaker 1: it was go time. It was We stood in line

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Speaker 1: at the Peppermint Lounge, walked that walk. That walk got

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Speaker 1: us the nod. The bouncer thought we were the entertainment.

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Speaker 1: We took the Expressway to the front of that line.

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Speaker 1: From that first time, doors opened behind one door, Keith Richards,

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Speaker 1: behind another door, John Lennon behind doin number three, a

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Speaker 1: hit record like you wouldn't believe you couldn't walk half

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Speaker 1: a block in New York City in the summer of

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three and not here be my baby coming

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Speaker 1: out of some tenement window or a car stereo. So,

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Speaker 1: of course I thought that a life with Phil would

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Speaker 1: lead to more of the same. We'd be cut into

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Speaker 1: the front of every line, calling up the stars on

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Speaker 1: the phone, webbing elbows all that. Baby. But life with

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Speaker 1: Phil closed more doors than it opened, Honey. The only

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Speaker 1: door that Phil opened for me was the closet door,

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Speaker 1: and he shoved me in there. I am serious, honey.

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Speaker 1: The closets at the house unlock Collina were big, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't that big. He kept me in that house

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Speaker 1: like a prisoner. I have said it before and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again. I was his prisoner. If I wanted

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Speaker 1: a drive, go shopping, go see my friends, I had

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Speaker 1: to ask George Brand to let me out of my

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Speaker 1: own damn house. You see, I was treated like a child.

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Speaker 1: I was a prisoner. George lived in the basement. George

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Speaker 1: and his gun permit. Phil hired him as his latest bodyguard.

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Speaker 1: This was after Big Red, after a mill farcus bodyguard.

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Speaker 1: Though George was just another way of Phil justifying all

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Speaker 1: the ship he did made him feel like a big man.

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Speaker 1: Phil could tell you to fuck right off, and if

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Speaker 1: you didn't like it, George would appear from behind Phil's

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Speaker 1: this closet, though, He locked me in the damn closet upstairs, Honey.

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Speaker 1: He wanted the prize so he could say he had

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Speaker 1: He had me, And there I was that night, locked

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Speaker 1: But honey, I took a screwdriver to that lock and

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Speaker 1: There wasn't much I could do from inside that closet.

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Speaker 1: I screamed, Oh I did, I yelled. I banged my

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Speaker 1: fist against the doors. This wasn't no live from the

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Speaker 1: Peppermint Lounge, Honey. I wasn't floating my way out from

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Speaker 1: between that rock in a hard place. With a beehive

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Speaker 1: and a smile, Phil went downstairs to shoot pool with

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Speaker 1: Don Krishner. They probably reminisced about the past, which Phil

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Speaker 1: was obsessed with, his past hits, his past success, his

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Speaker 1: past fame, all of which eluded him now and when

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Speaker 1: was this nineteen sixty nine. Probably. I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: his twenty one room mansion in Beverly Hills. Is it

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Speaker 1: any wonder that fame eluded him? Fame is a fickle bitch.

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Speaker 1: Honey Manson had him paranoid and anxious wired. Why do

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Speaker 1: you think George was sleeping in the basement with loaded weapons.

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Speaker 1: We came home from a trip to Vegas that August.

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Speaker 1: Right after it happened, Phil went into a crisis mode.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood went into crisis mode. He installed a chain link fence,

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Speaker 1: you know, no trespassing, that kind of thing. And then

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Speaker 1: you got a couple of dogs, attack dogs. I hated

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Speaker 1: the divorce process once we were not living the life

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Speaker 1: dropped it. He had me caged like an enemy. Don

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Speaker 1: someone was in need of his help. Phil. Phil wouldn't

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Speaker 1: he kept going. We walked fast, right past Phil, past

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Speaker 1: It started real sweet, real innocent. He started with guitars

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Speaker 1: He started with the promise of two and a half

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Speaker 1: minute song, short but life changing. It started down an

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Speaker 1: You'll be amazed just how much can be done with

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. Throughout was twenty Phil was three. I didn't

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Speaker 1: It was Darlene who told me he was married. He

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Speaker 1: all me. He definitely favored me over a Stella Nedra.

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Speaker 1: He focused on me, doated on me, and I ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna lie, honey. I liked the attention. Pretty Soon he

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Speaker 1: He's got me smiling when I should be ashamed, got

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Speaker 1: throwing his weight around. He would put himself between me

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Speaker 1: First off, he was married, newly married, you know the type.

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Speaker 1: And second he was unreasonable for a guy who was

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Speaker 1: awfully entitled. Before we were even official. He was pulling

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Speaker 1: this bangers, can't drive that car. Phil's cravings were routine,

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Speaker 1: air that got stale, Honey got stale real quick. Phil

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Speaker 1: Ship was knocked around, a chair upside down, Mike's hands

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Speaker 1: Phil was out of breath, his face was red. His

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Speaker 1: He looked three seconds away from exploding. He called Sunny

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Speaker 1: Sonny Bozo. After that, Sunny's girl Share took me dancing

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Speaker 1: one night at the Purple Onion on the Strip, a

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Speaker 1: and all of that, and here comes Phil, a bat

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Speaker 1: We kept our relationship secret for many years, even though

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Speaker 1: I was a little embarrassed, not just that he was

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