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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to a Wednesday. It's hour one with

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Speaker 1: the Boys, Dan and the Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Will

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Speaker 1: check in with the head coach of the world champion Lakers,

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Speaker 1: Frank Vogel. A little bit later on, Dan Orlovsky, the

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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback now an analyst for the Mothers Ship,

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Speaker 1: will recap what we saw last night. Is the Titans

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Speaker 1: roll over the Bills forty two to sixteen. The Jets

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Speaker 1: have released Levi on Bell, Dodgers braves. That's later on

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Speaker 1: today and the Rays and the Astros is the Astros

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Speaker 1: try to hold on the Rays trying to go to

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Speaker 1: the World Series and the Dodgers down two oh and

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Speaker 1: they have to wait an extra game to get Clayton

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Speaker 1: Kershaw back eight seven seven three d P Show email

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Speaker 1: will have a poll question, we got a play of

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Speaker 1: the day, we got a stat of the day or two.

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Speaker 1: But we begin with the Tennessee Titans. NFL players like routine.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the great things about playing once a week.

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Speaker 1: No team in the league has had less routine than

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans have had. Over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: They had twenty four positive COVID test with the players

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Speaker 1: and the staff since September twenty fourth. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: know for sure that they were playing yesterday, but no

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Speaker 1: positive tests yesterday. The game was played, and somehow, even

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Speaker 1: with very limited practice time, they dominated an undefeated Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills team. And the parallel for the Titans, I guess

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Speaker 1: would be the baseball Miami Marlins, because they were the

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Speaker 1: first team to have a rash of positive tests. They

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Speaker 1: missed games, they came back, they made the playoffs. Tennessee's

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Speaker 1: now four oh and a commanding lead in the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: They got a veteran team. They got a team that

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Speaker 1: really I think epitomizes the personality of their coach and

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Speaker 1: they know the system. You got Ryan Tannehill, the resurgence

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Speaker 1: of Ryan Tannehill. You got Derrick Henry, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a pretty stout defense in there as well. Don't make mistakes,

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Speaker 1: run the football, pick your opportunities to throw the football.

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Speaker 1: And that's been a magic success, a magic elixir for

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Speaker 1: this team. And I wondered the sustainability last year during

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, pleasant surprise and everybody knew what was going

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Speaker 1: to happen. Tannehill might throw for a hundred yards, Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry was going to run it right down your throat,

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Speaker 1: and that defense was going to be opportunistic. And I

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Speaker 1: wondered if they could continue to do it, because it

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Speaker 1: doesn't take long for a defense to go okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: how do we counteract what we see with the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen that yet. Granted it's only a month

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Speaker 1: into the season or four games into the season, but

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Speaker 1: they're four and oh for the first time since they

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Speaker 1: opened ten and oh back in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: That was the last year they won the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: They finished thirteen and three that year. But you start

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Speaker 1: to look at Ryan Tannehi with what he's done with

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Speaker 1: the Titans. You know, when they traded him from Miami

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Speaker 1: to Tennessee, and he was going to be a backup

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Speaker 1: when they got him, I said, I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: if four or five games into the season he would

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Speaker 1: be your starter. I just didn't think Marcus Mariota was

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Speaker 1: going to be able to recapture what he was at Oregon.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he doesn't get that opportunity, but Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 1: took advantage of that. He's had seventeen starts in Tennessee's

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Speaker 1: thirteen and four. He's completed sixty eight percent of his passes.

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Speaker 1: TDed interception ratio is five to one. He's throwing thirty

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Speaker 1: probably still people going, man, I'm not quite sure. You know.

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Speaker 1: All right, they're four and oh right now they play

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Speaker 1: in the AFC South, All right, okay, well we have

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Speaker 1: to you play who's in front of you. And they

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Speaker 1: had two weeks that they weren't sure if they were

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Speaker 1: playing the Steelers, and then they were playing Buffalo, and

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is a good team, but Tennessee at home last night.

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Speaker 1: Is a three and a half point underdog, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and they dominated. Here's Ryan Tannehill after the game. We

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Speaker 1: were set against our team. Our guys really felt uncalled for.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we were a little ticked off about how

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Speaker 1: through that process and believe in each other and wanted

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Speaker 1: We did that little chip on your shoulder there with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Boom. They were ticked Yes, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's bulletin board material. Hey, slow your role there, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: One thing you don't want to do is get Ryan

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Speaker 1: Tannehill ticked off. You do not, No, you do not. Yes, mclovin.

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Speaker 1: So I have a poll question that kind of goes

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Speaker 1: to a were a ranking. It can transition too a ranking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who would you who most want to get a beer with?

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Speaker 1: Out of these three quarterbacks? Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, or

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, And where do you put Ryan Tannehill in

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Speaker 1: the want to get a beer with rankings? If you

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Speaker 1: were going to rank all thirty two quarterbacks like guess

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Speaker 1: he fun? I don't think so. I think he's at

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Speaker 1: the bottom third. I think he's a family Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: is not drinking beer right now. He might sit there

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Speaker 1: and watch me drink a beer. I don't know, because

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Speaker 1: he's a pastor. Yeah, I don't. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's killing it. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: bellowing up to the bar. But he seems so nice

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Speaker 1: when we just had Oh No, I like him, but

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Speaker 1: McLevin said, you're gonna have a beer with So I

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Speaker 1: have to rule him out because he's not gonna have

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Speaker 1: a beer with Yeah, Nick Foles is a lovely walk

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Speaker 1: to Starbucks and sit. Is a lovely walk and coffee

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Speaker 1: with um Nick Foles better than a beer with Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Andy actually is my number one seeded We all know that.

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Speaker 1: But Andy Dollar, he's got red hair, He's probably got

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Speaker 1: funny stories. I don't know what the hill do. You

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be including your crush on the Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: to remove Andandy Dalton look where he's like, well, Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna talk to Ryan Tannehill about over

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Speaker 1: a beer? He's gonna have his his wife and his kids,

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Speaker 1: four tables over watching. They're just like you're watching. You're

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Speaker 1: the one that brought up the question. Okay, new pole question,

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Speaker 1: who's more handsome? Case Keenum, Andy Dalton, that's tie. You

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Speaker 1: want to throw kirk d Cousins in there too. Oh

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Speaker 1: I knew there was someone who belonged on that list.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this list is incomplete. Okay, so I've

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Speaker 1: kirk D Cousins. I don't think he drinks either, ginger beer?

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Speaker 1: if I had Kirk D Cousins, Ryan Tannehill, Andy Dalton. No,

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Speaker 1: nobody is breaking this down anywhere else in America. I

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Speaker 1: don't see Russell Wilson belling up to the bar either,

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Speaker 1: But Russ would be Yeah, Russ probably doesn't drink either, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's cool. Maybe Sierra we'll have a drink with me.

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Speaker 1: But now Russ would be fun. Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's gonna have a beer. Brady used to crush beers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he drinks beers anymore. He would

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Speaker 1: be he'd be a guy that you know, toss a

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Speaker 1: the list till you introduced us to him at Pebble

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Speaker 1: Beach was Matt Ryan. I didn't know. He was a

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Speaker 1: fun guy. Yes, a lot of fun. While he's still

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Who knows where he's going to be after this,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Matt Ryan's good guy. I enjoyed talk too.

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Speaker 1: Already got a tweet that Justin Herbert belongs on the

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Speaker 1: don't know if we need to go down this road. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we like all these guys. Gardner Minshew is the guy

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Speaker 1: probably have a beer with? How's that? Yeah? Yea, But

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Speaker 1: you'll end up in like New Mexico. Hours later you're like,

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Speaker 1: how do we get hating? Yeah, we're on a bus.

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Speaker 1: We're in Jacksonville. Yeah, how do we get on this bus?

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Speaker 1: And we're in New Mexico? Where's my clothes? What? Albuquerque?

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Speaker 1: Like some kind of Jim Morrison telling you man, I

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Speaker 1: remember going Toto too, Brady, Yes, mcle you could get

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Speaker 1: a zinfandewl with Daniel Jones. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: a beer guy either. Why why are we doing this

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Speaker 1: And then when we reach out to the PR. See

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Speaker 1: Fritzie's cringing over there because he knows he has to

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Speaker 1: reach out to the PR people, you know at these

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Speaker 1: with these teams, Hey, could we get such and such

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Speaker 1: a Oh you want to Minshew. I don't know. He

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Speaker 1: goes in New Mexico or something. Yeah, Oh you want

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. I don't know. You go into a Starbucks. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I watched a lot of the Braves and the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: last night, and this is not going well. Clayton Kershawn

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Speaker 1: a couple hours before you get somebody who adding pitched

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. You throw him in the mix here

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Speaker 1: and the Braves hold off the Dodgers. They're up two

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Speaker 1: games to none. I'm watching the Braves and I'm trying

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Speaker 1: We got an unbelievable pitching staff and we got young hitters.

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Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman can't get him out, and it feels like

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers are playing, you know, they're tentative. The Braves

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Speaker 1: aren't Braves just go out there and it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: can do. And they're playing with confidence and not afraid.

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Speaker 1: And you have that talent there and you've seen that

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Speaker 1: through the first two games. An awkward moment after the game.

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Speaker 1: We talk about questions sometimes that are asked to athletes

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Speaker 1: and we wonder why these athletes have a problem with

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Speaker 1: It's like Walker Bueller being asked about is Lulu lemon

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Speaker 1: pants that he was pitching with the Braves. Reliever Mark

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Speaker 1: Mellikon was asked this question last night. I mean, can

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Speaker 1: you take a positive out of even though you blowed

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Speaker 1: most of that lead, you still two oh. I don't

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Speaker 1: really understand your question. Can you still take something positive

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Speaker 1: out of this? You're still up two o in the series,

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Speaker 1: despite you know, blowing a big lead. Can you leave

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Speaker 1: I think that's a terrible question. I'm not ever going

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Speaker 1: to answer. All you have to is say we won,

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Speaker 1: and I will say that the reporter doubled down and

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Speaker 1: I went, oh no, no, don't double down. He just

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to talk himself into a

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Speaker 1: good answer and it wasn't going to happen. There. Let's

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Speaker 1: play it again. I mean, can you take a positive

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Speaker 1: out of it? Even though you blew most of that lead?

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Speaker 1: You still up two oak? Huh? I don't really understand

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Speaker 1: your question. Can you still take something positive out of this?

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Speaker 1: stuff and so I'm getting ready to start, and he

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Speaker 1: must have said that week as I prepared a hundred

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Speaker 1: times you have to outgrind Belichick. You just have to

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Speaker 1: outgrind him, outgrind him, and you've got to get the

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Speaker 1: game into the fourth quarter. And that's what Josh was

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Speaker 1: not able to do last night. Like they just make

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Speaker 1: They forced him to play a disciplined style of quarterback

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to do it. And that was

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Speaker 1: really well done by raybel Are. The Titans are contender

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Speaker 1: for sure. You know, I picked him to win that

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Speaker 1: division just because I think that if you look at

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Speaker 1: the overall strength of the football team, what is it

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Speaker 1: offensive line? Their offensive line is fantastic. Okay, so then

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Speaker 1: you go, what does that allow you to do? When

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Speaker 1: you've got a good offensive line, it allows everybody's else's

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Speaker 1: strengths to be magnified. All right, So Ryan Tannehill is

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Speaker 1: really good in the play action game. Well, if you've

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Speaker 1: got a good offensive line that one can run the

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Speaker 1: football in two is good with their play action fakes,

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Speaker 1: then Tannehill is better at that. Aj Brown's a big

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Speaker 1: time physical receiver. Mary's well with the play action game

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Speaker 1: because you get him crossing the field, you got to

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Speaker 1: be able to make contest the catches. When you do that,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, their play caller, Arthur Smith, I

446
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Speaker 1: think is like one of the more interesting hires of

447
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Speaker 1: the last two years in the NFL. Like when Mike

448
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Speaker 1: Rabel made him offensive coordinator two years ago, no one

449
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Speaker 1: heard about the guy, like I had never heard of him,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he'll be a head coach

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Speaker 1: next year. And so, you know, I think that if

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Speaker 1: their secondary continues to play better as the season goes on, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a problem. Man. They were a problem

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Speaker 1: last year. Tannehill has been MVP level football since he

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Speaker 1: became their quarterbacks. So they're really well coached. They got

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Speaker 1: strengths on both sides of a lot of scrimmage. They

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Speaker 1: got a physical receiver, physical run game, and opportunistic defense.

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Speaker 1: It feels like we got maybe four teams in the

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Speaker 1: AFC who could win it all, maybe two three teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFC that sound AFC teams that can win

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Speaker 1: it all I think are Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Baltimore, UM, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I probably still throw Buffalo into that mix. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we saw the Buffalo team last night that we've

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Speaker 1: seen or expect. You know, if Indie, if Indie's quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: stops to throw on the ball to the other team,

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Speaker 1: I think during the conversation as well, but too many,

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Speaker 1: too many question marks at that position, and they in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, you're looking at Seattle, Green Bay, and Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay to me or the teams that stand out and

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Speaker 1: the Rams. I think the Rams with the way that

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Speaker 1: they're playing, are four bona fide contenders and Saints. My

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Speaker 1: question mark concern with the Saints are this, your defense

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Speaker 1: is not good enough to play those style of football

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Speaker 1: you want to play offensively, like they cannot be explosive offensively.

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Speaker 1: Right now. They'll play well and they'll score and they'll

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Speaker 1: be efficient, but you can't. You can't screen pass your

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Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl. And if your defense is

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Speaker 1: going to get thirty hung on them every week, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be explosive on offense, like you just have

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Speaker 1: to be to counter that. And right now they're they're

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Speaker 1: incapable of being explosive because there's the reality that Drew's

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Speaker 1: arm is not good enough to do that. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to Dan Orlovsky, NFL Live analyst, The Levy on Bell

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Speaker 1: situation's interesting because when he was with Pittsburgh, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to give a running back

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Speaker 1: a second contract. I just there, I can find running backs.

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Speaker 1: I know Leveyon Bell was special. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give you that kind of money.

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Speaker 1: He goes to the Jets. Not a good fix. You've

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Speaker 1: got a coach who doesn't want him there. But now

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Speaker 1: he's out to pasture. But it feels like Leveon Bell

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Speaker 1: still has something and I don't know which system he

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Speaker 1: fits in where you really take advantage of this. The

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Speaker 1: team I thought of initially was the Chicago Bears. Could

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Speaker 1: maybe use somebody like Levyon Bell. But if you were

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Speaker 1: going to handicap where he should go, where would you

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Speaker 1: have him Land? Yeah? I mean the Bears are certainly

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Speaker 1: high on my list. I'd say Chicago, I'd say Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: I'd say Philadelphia. You know, it's teams that you go okay,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's got to be one a contending

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Speaker 1: football team and two a team that's got a really

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Speaker 1: strong culture. Chicago, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Seattle, No, Green Bay. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't see New England. Why is it every time

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Speaker 1: a players available, we always say New England because Belichick's

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Speaker 1: always the king of Like, hey, I'll bide low and

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Speaker 1: make this player that just got released it used to

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Speaker 1: be this end name player into a really good one.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't see knowing that just don't. I

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Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh's a really good fit. I think Philly's gotta

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Speaker 1: get somebody outside of Miles Sanders to be a part

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Speaker 1: of that offense. They hit such an integral part that

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Speaker 1: the tailback for them, So I think that's a really

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Speaker 1: big deal. Baltimore, don't see, Kansas City, I don't see.

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Speaker 1: You know, Buffalo would be interesting. Would Zach Moss getting

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Speaker 1: banged up? You know, I think that would be an

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Speaker 1: interesting one because Singletary is really good, but you always

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Speaker 1: want complimentary pieces. And then in the NFC, like, Tampa's

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Speaker 1: intriguing to me. I've said this for two months now.

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Speaker 1: Tampa has to find a pass catching tailback. You could

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Speaker 1: tell me all you want that that's Leonard Fournette. It's not. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it's not Leonard Fournette. Caught a bunch of checkdowns last year,

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Speaker 1: and you could tell me all you want that it's

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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. Watch the tape, Like, just watch the tape.

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Speaker 1: It's not Ronald Jones. So I think Tampa would be

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Speaker 1: a very interesting place because they have to find a

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Speaker 1: pass catching weapon, versatile back Josh Norman getting still Farmed

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Speaker 1: last night by Derrick Henry. You know when you have

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Speaker 1: these moments and you can't hide from them, what's that like? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know that all too well. You know, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you gotta swallow your bride, man, you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: kinda remove yourself from social media. First third period of

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Speaker 1: time and listen, you're either gonna embrace it and laugh

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Speaker 1: with everyone. Are you gonna get really angry and offended

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna laugh at you? Have you? How often

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Speaker 1: does it come up? When it does? Oh yeah, daily? Daily?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not well, explaining the audience what happened,

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Speaker 1: just so we know we're all on the joke. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So two thousand and eight, we're playing it's my first

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Speaker 1: start in my NFL career. We're playing on the road

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Speaker 1: against Minnesota. Early in the game, we're oh and four,

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Speaker 1: oh and five at this point, early in the game,

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Speaker 1: we're backed up on I think our one or two

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Speaker 1: yard line. It's third and ten something like that, and

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Speaker 1: we call a play I don't like it, called time out,

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Speaker 1: going to my coaches, Hey, can we call a different play? No?

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Speaker 1: They say no, So we get into the huddle. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for that, coach. We get into the huddle and it's

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00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: just kind of a drop back pass again from the

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Speaker 1: one yard on him. In the shotgun. We're double teaming

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen, who's to my left. We decide to not

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Speaker 1: double team Jared Allen. He splits the double team, and

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Speaker 1: just like in a reaction thing, I move backwards and

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Speaker 1: sideways at the same time, but more backwards then sideways,

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Speaker 1: and I step out of bounds untouched for his safety,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually running out of bounds by a good yard

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Speaker 1: before ever realizing I'm out of bounds, So you know

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Speaker 1: that ends up being a safety. We lose that game

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Speaker 1: twelve ten, we go oh and sixteen ironically, And so

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Speaker 1: I'd say it comes up every day man, with someone

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Speaker 1: tries to remind me, like Dan, you ran out of

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Speaker 1: the end zone. Guys, I'm completely aware of that, like

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Speaker 1: I was there. I was there, So I find it

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Speaker 1: pretty funny man. But also when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: like if you say something bad about somebody's team when

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Speaker 1: you're on NFL Live, every response is not critiquing you

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Speaker 1: about what you said about their team. It's like, how

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00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: do you know football? You ran out of the end zone? Dan? Right, yeah, exactly,

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: that's do we really want to trust what you said?

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Speaker 1: The guy that ran out of the end zone? It's like,

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Speaker 1: I got I don't do I have a comeback for you? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've got a hundred of comebacks for you. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to use any on you because you're still stuck

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. Well, Chris Webber had the

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Speaker 1: time out foundation? Did you did you name your foundation

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Speaker 1: back of the end zone or out of the end

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Speaker 1: zone or you know, now that I thought about it,

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Speaker 1: I've never really thought about that My foundation was egotistically

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Speaker 1: after my name, But now that like, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: I have I have in my Twitter bio like end

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00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: zone should be eleven yards. I still think I still

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Speaker 1: want to confirm that that end zone was thirty feet.

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Speaker 1: You know, it very easily could have been twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I know this, Tom Brady forgot what down

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Speaker 1: it was abou oh whoa whoa, whoa whoa. And he's

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Speaker 1: still the greatest quarterback ever. So he gives me a

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Speaker 1: little gives me a good feeling in my stomach. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave you with this, the possibility of an NFL bubble

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00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: for the postseason. Yeah, it's a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, where do we hold the games? Though, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking if you did an NFL stadium and

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Speaker 1: a college stadium in the same city, like let's say

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl or the Colosseum and you know where

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Speaker 1: the Rams and Chargers play, or you did Detroit and

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Speaker 1: you did Michigan, you know, the Big House, and then

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Speaker 1: you did something along the East coast. Could you bubble

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00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: eze those cities and take advantage of two different stadiums there? Oh? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And I think it's like I keep going back to

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Speaker 1: this with the NFL. Your your number one job is

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Speaker 1: to avoid the worst case scenario this year to try

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Speaker 1: to pull this off. Now, five six weeks through, it

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Speaker 1: seems to be going well or as as well as

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Speaker 1: we could have hoped, fingers crossed, and the flexibility has

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Speaker 1: been great. But my question has always been to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: why not? And if it's the sheer amount of number

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Speaker 1: or when it comes to people, that's fine. But the

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Speaker 1: playoffs is going to diminish that and it's going to

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Speaker 1: minimize that, and so you know, if you get to

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Speaker 1: if you're the NFL, you better be plans to pull

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Speaker 1: this off and make this happen. And so, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you could look at Florida. I think that

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Speaker 1: you can look at LA. I think you'd look at

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Speaker 1: you could look at an Arizona area. My only caveat

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Speaker 1: with the with the you know, the Midwest location potentially

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Speaker 1: is I don't want to be a team that has

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Speaker 1: to get penalized and have to play an outdoor game

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Speaker 1: in January while you get to play in a domed

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Speaker 1: stadium in LA or perfect weather in LA. So that

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Speaker 1: would be the logistical aspect that they would have to

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Speaker 1: figure out to kind of make it an even playing field.

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlofsky's Safety Foundation, Safety First, Safety, we got it.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Who's better than you? Man? We don't

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Speaker 1: have time to list. Hey, it's great to see. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're having fun on NFL Live and thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us as always, Mark Klaser, Thanks Bud. That's dan Orlovsky,

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Speaker 1: Safety First, We got it. See. You know what, you

626
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: gotta have a sense of humor in this business. A

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: sense of humor in life will take you a long way.

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Speaker 1: And if you're going to be an analyst, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have a sense of humor because people are going to

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Speaker 1: bring up the worst moments of your career. And Chris

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Speaker 1: Webber when he called the time out in the National

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Speaker 1: title game against North Carolina, that's as bad as it gets.

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Speaker 1: So what did he do? We're gonna call it the

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Speaker 1: time out Foundation. I'm going to get to that punchline

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Speaker 1: before you do. And you know, Doug Gottlie has brought

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Speaker 1: this up before. When you know he stole a credit

637
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Speaker 1: card at Notre Dame and Doug acknowledges that he did

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Speaker 1: this his freshman year, and he brings it up first,

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Speaker 1: like he knows he did it. He was stupid that

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Speaker 1: he did it, but he does. You know, he does

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Speaker 1: admit it, embrace it, understand it, like not embrace it,

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Speaker 1: but he does. He knows it's his. He's got to

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Speaker 1: own it. And people will bring that up if Doug

644
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Speaker 1: says something against your team or a player, Hey, what

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Speaker 1: do you know, look at what you did at Notre Day.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's two decades ago. You know, Dan Orlovsky

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Speaker 1: with this, Chris Webber, you know, they're just certain things

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Speaker 1: that have happened. Bill Buckner at one point finally said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I made the error. I'm gonna make fun of me

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Speaker 1: on curb your enthusiasm where I you know, I dropped

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Speaker 1: the ball you throw to me, but I catched the

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Speaker 1: baby being thrown out of the window. You know. To

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Speaker 1: get to that point, it's difficult because everywhere you go

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Speaker 1: and people think, well, you're the only one bringing this up.

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Speaker 1: But Dan says it's brought up every day because if

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Speaker 1: he says, hey, I got a problem with whoever, that

657
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Speaker 1: fan base is going to go, what do you know

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Speaker 1: you ran out of the end zone. Yeah, the Orlovsky

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Speaker 1: play where he ran out the endzone. It didn't cost

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Speaker 1: him the season. It wasn't you know, that big in

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Speaker 1: the scope of things. But the actual video is so

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Speaker 1: entertaining because he's still looking down field for the open

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Speaker 1: man and he's seven yards. He never gave up on

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Speaker 1: the play and I appreciate you seven yards out about

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Speaker 1: That's why the video is entertaining. Good sense of humor

666
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Speaker 1: when he when he his back runs into the clock

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Speaker 1: that the uh play clock. That's when he should have

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Speaker 1: known that he was really out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: It's just joking there, anybody, anybody on the other setting

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Speaker 1: like I'm watching the video getting right down the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen's chasing him down back in the engine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Jared's pointing safety or loss. He's like checked down

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Speaker 1: and trying to look for the tight end and break

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Speaker 1: it open. It's great. He never gives up on the floor. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm latch you too. The problem is he keeps going

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Speaker 1: through the play as if he doesn't know he ran

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Speaker 1: God ran out of Really he thought he was in

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Speaker 1: the CFL. Let me come on, all right, we'll take

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Speaker 1: a break. Play of the day coming up, and we'll

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Speaker 1: dive into what's going on with the Dodgers and uh,

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Speaker 1: who's l twove the yips at se in base back?

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Speaker 1: After this in The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

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Speaker 1: of the day, God play, This is the play of

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Speaker 1: the day. Check this out to one delivery. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna fly ball left center field deep going back is

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Speaker 1: Pollock at the track at the wall, it's gone caught

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Speaker 1: by Mark Mulanson and the Braves Bullpen solo home run

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Speaker 1: by Ozzy Albys. There's a little insurance. It's eight to three.

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Speaker 1: It's your play of the day and it's courtesy a

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Speaker 1: had an interesting night closed out the gang also caught

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Speaker 1: being scratched, the three times Cy Young winner was two

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Speaker 1: and oh in the playoffs with nineteen strikeouts in fourteen innings,

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Speaker 1: and appeared determined to slay his October demons here. As

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts said, it's kind of World Series or Bust

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Speaker 1: every year, and he's right, but the stakes are even

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Speaker 1: higher this year, because you look at the Lakers winning.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers have been here, They've gotten here before, They've

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Speaker 1: gotten farther than this before and been on the cusp

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Speaker 1: and haven't been able to hoist the Commissioner's Trophy. You know,

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Speaker 1: Doc Rivers lost his job with the Clippers earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: and Dave Roberts knows that he's probably managed for his job.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much cut and dried. That's how

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Speaker 1: high the stakes are. I got an email from a

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Speaker 1: professor who was talking about Josel Twove in the yips,

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Speaker 1: and the professor says, I don't know what you know.

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Speaker 1: He's a professor in, but I'm guessing psychology. Josel Tuve

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Speaker 1: had a terrible season. It's been reported that he is

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Speaker 1: someone who is relatively humble and wants to be liked.

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Speaker 1: For a time, I was not sure if his poor

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Speaker 1: season was just a random baseball thing or he was

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Speaker 1: really affected by the scandal. Seeing the yips at second

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Speaker 1: base starts to clarify that he truly is struggling with overthinking.

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Speaker 1: The yips are the most obvious function of thinking when

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Speaker 1: a play should be automatic. They're very difficult to overcome.

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Speaker 1: Because it's tough to stop overthinking. It seems pretty obvious

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Speaker 1: now that he is really having a hard time overcoming

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Speaker 1: the scrutiny. Imagine if there were fans this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine the fans in the stands if he

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Speaker 1: had the yips right now? And you don't even have

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Speaker 1: support of the home fans here and you're on an

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Speaker 1: island when that groundball comes to you, and then what happens.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like Lonzo Ball has the yips when he

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Speaker 1: gets ready to shoot, and he doesn't want to shoot,

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Speaker 1: but he's wide open. I'm supposed to shoot. I'm a professional,

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Speaker 1: and you could see where he's hesitant in wanting to shoot.

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Speaker 1: Most shooters can't wait to get the ball. Lonzo Ball,

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Speaker 1: it feels like he wants to pass the ball as

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Speaker 1: soon as he gets it. And here's Altuve, who by

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Speaker 1: all accounts is a very good second baseman. But you

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Speaker 1: start to think, and then you become mechanical. Athletes will

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Speaker 1: tell you all the time. They've told me all the time.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you get to the point where you've thought,

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Speaker 1: so when it does happen, you don't think. You just react.

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Speaker 1: And I still go back to the question that I

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Speaker 1: asked John McEnroe many many years ago. I said, how

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Speaker 1: do you do it? He goes, I don't know, because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't break it down. He didn't think about it.

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Speaker 1: He just does it. It's reactionary to it. And that

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Speaker 1: explained everything to me. The great ones don't think they've

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Speaker 1: already thought to get to the moment, so when it

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Speaker 1: does happen, it's reactionary. And Josel Tuve is overthinking everything

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Speaker 1: here and whatever happened in the offseason, whatever happened with

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Speaker 1: the criticisms of cheating, it eventually soaks in. It seeps in,

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Speaker 1: whether it's by proxy or not. And he was the

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Speaker 1: poster child for cheating. And this was the most beloved

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Speaker 1: guy on the team member. You'd have those moments when

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Speaker 1: the Astros would play the Yankees and he'd stand next

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Judge and you'd see, you know, the height

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Speaker 1: differential between the two. Everybody thought it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, that's a guy you can root for. And

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden your public enemy number one

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Speaker 1: in baseball. And you've seen this happen now in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: A couple of times he can't get the ball to

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Speaker 1: second base, and you probably say, I got an eight

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Speaker 1: year old who can do it. Yeah, because the eight

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Speaker 1: year old's not thinking. The eight year old just get

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Speaker 1: the ball and throw Josale two Bay's gonna go on it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get the grounder and I gotta throw it.

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Speaker 1: And as crazy as you're gonna say, you know that

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Speaker 1: sounds who is the Mickey? The Mets catcher, Mackie Sasser.

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Speaker 1: Mackie Sasser, he couldn't throw the ball back to the mount.

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Speaker 1: As simple as throwing the ball back to the mount,

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Speaker 1: and he would lob it back there. John Lester, the

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Speaker 1: pitcher for the Cubs, he couldn't throw the first base

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Speaker 1: Guy'd be on first base leading off, he had a

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Speaker 1: comeback or way through his glove. I think over like

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Speaker 1: he just you know, it's just the mind is so

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Speaker 1: powerful in positive and negative ways. Yeah, PAULI I saw

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Speaker 1: a thing recently. You know. You know baseball players when

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Speaker 1: they're up to bat, they adjust their gloves eight times

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Speaker 1: between every pitch. They do that so they're not thinking

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Speaker 1: about stuff. Psychologists wrote about why a guy adjust his

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Speaker 1: gloves and tafts his back three times and brushes his

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Speaker 1: leg in the dirt three times. You find a routine

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Speaker 1: that you do every time that keeps your mind occupied

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Speaker 1: with that routine and not thinking fastball curveball slide or

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Speaker 1: fastball carball side because you start thinking you're not you're

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Speaker 1: not hitting. Chad in Kentucky joins us on the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey Chad, what's on your mind? Hey? Thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: my call here. My question pertains to the press conference

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Speaker 1: postgame press conference with the Atlanta Brage. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've been in these press conferences. Roll of um.

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Speaker 1: When you ask a dumb question like that, how long

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Speaker 1: before you can ask another question? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's a moratorium on how long? Let me play? Here's

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Speaker 1: the question to ask of the Braves reliever Mark Blanson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you take a positive out of even

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Speaker 1: though you blow most of that lead? You're still up too? Oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand your question. Can you still take

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Speaker 1: something positive out of this? You're still up two oh?

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Speaker 1: In the series? Spike, you know, blowing a big lead.

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Speaker 1: Can you leave this same feeling you know, good that

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Speaker 1: you survived this game. I think that's a terrible question.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer. That's a question you ask

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Speaker 1: after the team lost, not after they won. Now you

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Speaker 1: can say, hey, what concerns you about you know, the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers coming back, you know in the ninth thinning. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can phrase it where you can get

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Speaker 1: something out of it. Where once you say you blew

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Speaker 1: the lead, we didn't blow the lead. You blew the

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Speaker 1: margin of the lead, but you didn't blow the lead.

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Speaker 1: And then so you've automatically got his defenses up. So

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get whatever answer you're looking for,

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Speaker 1: it ain't coming. Dah mclub. It's like saying, are you

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Speaker 1: panicking now that you're up to our How do you

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Speaker 1: feel with your backs against the wall up to nothing? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how nervous do you feel? You're up two games to none?

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Speaker 1: They did win the game. They might be a bit nervous, though,

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Speaker 1: maybe if they start thinking about this, they just play.

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Speaker 1: I told you they're a better version of the Padres.

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Speaker 1: They're young, and they just go out there and they rake,

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Speaker 1: and the pitching has been underrated. Harold Reynolds in the

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Speaker 1: Baseball Network will join us. Coming up next hour, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Frank Vogel, the Lakers head coach. In the

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Speaker 1: final hour. More of your phone calls as well here

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Speaker 1: on The Dan Patrick Show.