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Speaker 1: Wow, Danae, Freaks and Giggs? What's up? Were welcome the

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Speaker 1: ants of the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. James go, here

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Speaker 1: is you beautiful Wednesday morning? We're talking fantasy man, we're

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Speaker 1: talking football. We got MG, my guy, Marcus Grett in

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Speaker 1: the building. What's up? What's going on? So it's like

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Speaker 1: it's a happy Wednesday? Yeah, it is Wednesday. Right, It's weird,

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Speaker 1: of thrown my days off a little bit. All right, boy,

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Speaker 1: young boy, West Virginia's finest. We got Matt Harmon. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? How you doing? I'm good? Yeah, I'm good. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I did not have a four day weekend. You did not? No? No,

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Speaker 1: a that's not an interesting Were you here by yourself

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Speaker 1: you didn't even have a three day weekend. No, you

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Speaker 1: came in on Monday, because I came in Friday. For

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Speaker 1: those listening was our commissioner's day off. Uncle Roger occasionally

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not part of that NFL life, bro.

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Speaker 1: But the option we had an option in the contract

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Speaker 1: this like when I got I want to need it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why are we talking about this? Nobody cares. All the

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Speaker 1: I was going to not I purposely did not say

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Speaker 1: And then intro you did like a weird like it's

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Speaker 1: don't know. What do you want from? Got a great

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Speaker 1: show in front of us. Here's today, Man, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about franchise tax Well Jarvis got tex so

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Speaker 1: there you go. That's right. Um. We will talk all

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Speaker 1: things Denver Broncos though there's so many storylines surrounding Denver

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Speaker 1: this show. Plus we will talk about a piece that

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Speaker 1: Matt Harmon wrote Combined Players. Well, it's not combined players

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Speaker 1: to watch you. You You wrote a thing about the top

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Speaker 1: regards to the Kirk Cousins pending free agency, the Jets

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Speaker 1: all the great quarterbacks that have come through that Kirk

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Speaker 1: we welcome in Troy Rank from Denver ABC seven, Denver

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Speaker 1: you're seeing stories that might guarantee his entire contract. That

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Speaker 1: would be unheard of. But the Broncos, like Cousins, they

426
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Speaker 1: would prefer a veteran quarterback as they looked to rebound

427
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Speaker 1: after missing the playoffs and back to back seasons. If

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Speaker 1: not Cousins, case, Keenan would then be on the list

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Speaker 1: if he becomes available. If Cousins, for instance, ends up

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and then maybe a placeholder guy like Tyrod

431
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Speaker 1: Taylor would be in that kind of next group. If

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Speaker 1: they go that direction Taylor, then they would likely still

433
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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first or second round. So

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Speaker 1: I tell you a look at the wide receiver room, right,

435
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Speaker 1: So it's Emmanuel Sanders to Marius Thomas. There's a lot

436
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Speaker 1: of question marks as to whether or not one or both,

437
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Speaker 1: or or maybe both will be on the team. Maybe

438
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Speaker 1: none will be on the team. Again, a lot of

439
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Speaker 1: speculation as to what the Denver Broncos might do. How

440
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Speaker 1: is that move maybe tied into whether or not they

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Speaker 1: get Kirk Cousins. It is tied directly from my sources

442
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Speaker 1: that as they pursue Kirk Cousins, they want to keep

443
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Speaker 1: Damerius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders in play UH to help

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Speaker 1: recruit him in terms of the weapons he'd have available

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Speaker 1: if he's signed in Denver. If they feel like they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna get Cousins or they just do not get Cousins,

447
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Speaker 1: then it's possible one of the two would be gone.

448
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Speaker 1: Tomarrius Thomas, you could see them going to him and

449
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Speaker 1: asking to restructure. Thomas is going to go down as

450
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Speaker 1: a Ring of Famer and one of the all time

451
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Speaker 1: great Bronco offensive players. Problem is his production is tailed

452
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Speaker 1: off the last few years. He's more of a possession

453
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Speaker 1: receiver now, but while making elite money. And Emmanuel Sanders

454
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Speaker 1: was their best player for the previous two seasons, but

455
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Speaker 1: last year and ankle injury really sabotaged his year um

456
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Speaker 1: and he could be he would be easier to trade

457
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Speaker 1: than de Marius Thomas given the contract, so they could

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Speaker 1: restructure DT trade Emmanuel or again if they get Cousins.

459
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Speaker 1: The expectations they would like to keep both to have

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Speaker 1: to veteran receivers there for Cousins. You know, you wrote

461
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Speaker 1: recently that there was an offense last year that had

462
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Speaker 1: all the personality of Kaki Dockers. Uh what a dages

463
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Speaker 1: does The front office look at it as simply as

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Speaker 1: if we can get the quarterback we want that everything

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Speaker 1: turns around. Or is there more to fixing this offense

466
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Speaker 1: than that. Well, part of the reason of that comments

467
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Speaker 1: they've had no identity offensive the last two years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you ask people about the Broncos offense, like what

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Speaker 1: do they do well, and you get no answer. They

470
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Speaker 1: just don't do anything particularly well. And last year they

471
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Speaker 1: were awful and protecting the ball. I mean, their quarterback

472
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Speaker 1: play outside of the Browns was the worst in football,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, and part of that's on the quarterbacks, of course,

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Speaker 1: part of its play calling. And they have to fix

475
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. It's not just Cousins. What Cousins would do, though,

476
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Speaker 1: guys is bring certainty. I mean they've had these American

477
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Speaker 1: idol auditions the last two years of quarterback and whether

478
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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, and then it was Simi in and then

479
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Speaker 1: it's Simion beating out Lynch, which is an indictment of

480
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Speaker 1: Lynch frankly that he could not beat out Simeon last summer.

481
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Speaker 1: But it's created. It's overwhelmed all of camp. It becomes

482
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Speaker 1: the overwriting story every day. And they realized that while

483
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Speaker 1: they won on the cheap and the one with the

484
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Speaker 1: compromised quarterback not on the cheap. But they wanted the

485
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Speaker 1: compromise quarterback in Peyton Manning's last year. They haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to do that the last two years. So quarterback

487
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Speaker 1: like Cousins would give them an offensive identity. That's who

488
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Speaker 1: our offense is going through. We're gonna play to his strengths.

489
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Speaker 1: But it isn't a one guy fixed. They would need

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Speaker 1: to get the line better. You know, they'd love to

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Speaker 1: get a Nate Soldier at left tackle or again, if

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Speaker 1: they get Cousins, you could see him going maybe Quentin

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Speaker 1: Nelson at five at the guard, and you know, getting

494
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Speaker 1: a couple of linemen early in the draft they like

495
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Speaker 1: there Nanda's kid from U Tap at guard. They would.

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Speaker 1: That's why if they able to get Cousins, that frees

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Speaker 1: them up in the draft to do a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: If they don't get Cousins, they might feel compelled to

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback with that fifth overall pick. Hey, Troy,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about the other position in the

501
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Speaker 1: backfield there at running back. They have c J. Anderson

502
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Speaker 1: as a contract that they can get out of, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that he had his first thousand yards season.

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Speaker 1: I know. I saw a report the other day, I

505
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Speaker 1: think from ESPN's Jeff Legwald that they and he his

506
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Speaker 1: feeling is that they're kind of insistent on getting uh

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Speaker 1: DeVante Booker into the number one back roll. What do

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Speaker 1: you what's kind of your sense of what's going on

509
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Speaker 1: in the backfield of the direction that they'll take this offseason. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: I mean c J. Anderson's vulnerable. I mean, he had

511
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Speaker 1: a nice year in a bad year. He competed, he

512
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Speaker 1: was admirable the way he went about his business and

513
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Speaker 1: what was just an atrocious year for the team. Um,

514
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Speaker 1: but his salary is prohibitive at this point, and they

515
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Speaker 1: do like Booker. Booker they loved two years ago. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he faded down the stretch and back

517
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Speaker 1: to back seasons has become a bit of a concern,

518
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Speaker 1: like can this guy be the every down back starter?

519
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Speaker 1: And they do like him. That is true. He's a

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Speaker 1: cheaper version of C. J. Anderson. They would like to

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Speaker 1: even if they move on from c J. Anderson, and

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Speaker 1: if they do, I would think Miami might have interest.

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Speaker 1: Given Adam Gatee there in a former running backs coach

524
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Speaker 1: Studentsville in Miami, then they would like to get somebody

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Speaker 1: with bursts. I mean, the one thing Booker hasn't shown

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Speaker 1: he can do is he doesn't break tackles at the

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Speaker 1: point of contact, and that's been the issue with him

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Speaker 1: the last two years. Once in space, he's a better

529
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Speaker 1: receiver than you think. He does some nice things athletically,

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Speaker 1: it's just breaking that initial cackle has been an issue.

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Speaker 1: And obviously with their line it's even more amplified because

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Speaker 1: they haven't had a very good line the last few years.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got Troy Rank from Denver ABC seven

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Speaker 1: Broncos insider Um. Again, you talk about c J. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, just there's so many moving potentially moving parts

536
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Speaker 1: here for the Denver Broncos, and it's in a division

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Speaker 1: the a f C West that is quite frankly their load.

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Speaker 1: Nut man Um, I wonder, and I'd love to get

539
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Speaker 1: your take, is this is this a Broncos team. It's

540
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: a it's a veteran team, but Is this a team

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Speaker 1: that's reloading, are rebuilding? Yeah, they don't really rebuild in Denver.

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00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They don't use the word patients. They

543
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: don't talk about youth movements. They are going to get

544
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: younger though, it's one of those things that's some of

545
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: it's just the evolution of the roster. But they are

546
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: looking to get younger, more athletic at certain positions. Uh.

547
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: And they're trying to stay away from, you know, hanging

548
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Speaker 1: with veterans to the very end. I mean, that's one

549
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: of the things the Patriots do so well. They get

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00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: rid of a guy a year earlier rather than a

551
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: year later. And the Broncos are That's why they face

552
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: tough choices right now with the keep to leave that

553
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, they like Bradley Roby to start, so they

554
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: move on? Would they move on from to leave? Will

555
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: they move on from Derek Wolfe who's dealt with some injuries,

556
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Speaker 1: including a neck injury last year. And they're not really

557
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: they don't want to say rebuilding, but if you would

558
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Speaker 1: look at their roster, if if let's say even half

559
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Speaker 1: of the moves take place, that could in terms of

560
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: veterans moving on, you would look at their roster on

561
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: opening night and go, this is a team in transition.

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Speaker 1: And that's where if you don't get Cousins, then you're

563
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: clearly a team in transition. If you get Cousin, then

564
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: it's more app that they just kind of try to

565
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Speaker 1: band aid a little bit and make another push for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And Joy, I think one of the last

567
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: questions we'll have for you is this. James mentioned the

568
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: rest of the division has been making some big moves.

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Speaker 1: We've got a new quarterback in Patrick Mahomes with the Chiefs.

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00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: The Raiders have brought back John Gruden. What's kind of

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Speaker 1: your reaction and what's been the team's sense of of

572
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: these big moves happening amongst their division rivals. Well, I

573
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: know it's crazy, but the Broncos are They love seeing

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith leaving the divisions. This was really good against them.

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Speaker 1: I think he's three and one his last four starts.

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00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: He beat him in Denver, which few quarterbacks do. Alex

577
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: Smith doesn't turn the ball over. And I like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I mean I covered his dad major League Baseball, LaTroy Hawkins.

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Speaker 1: A friend of mine is Patrick mahomes godfather. So I've

580
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: known about Mahomes since he was a kid. I mean

581
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the kid throws like mis proud off the mound. I

582
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be a big league picture so

583
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: and we saw him against Denver. His talent is breathtaking.

584
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: He does things with the ball you just don't see.

585
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: But are you gonna tell me first year starter he's

586
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Speaker 1: gonna have like five interceptions, six interceptions like Smith. So

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00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: next year I'm not saying going, you know, the future,

588
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: but next year specifically, it might benefit Denver that Alex

589
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Smith is not in the division. And Derek Carr there's

590
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: a lot of question how will he respond to John

591
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Gruden's coaching because he took a step backward. And I've

592
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: been a Derek Carr fan. He took a huge step backward.

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00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Part of it, I think it was related to that

594
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: back injury suffered in Denver. But and then the Chargers

595
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: they're a team they maul the Broncos. That is a

596
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: bad matchup for Denver because of Bosa, because of Ingram,

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00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: they have struggled and Philip Rivers plays well against Denver traditionally.

598
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: So it's a competitive division. But the weird thing again

599
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: is the team at the top. The Chiefs who have

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00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: dominated this division the last few years. For me, they

601
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: have kind of come back to the pack. So it

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00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: makes it more interesting. Man, there's going Uh, this is

603
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Speaker 1: a West Man. I love it. It's gonna be very

604
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: very competitive. Uh next season, and I'll tell you what, Man,

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00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: the Broncos are gonna be in the mix as well. Um.

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Speaker 1: We got Troy righting from Denver. ABC seven. Broncos inside

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00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: or Troy. We appreciate your time, you guys any time.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate thanks for having me on. All right, see

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00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: it all right, let's react a little bit to the

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Speaker 1: stuff that we heard from Troy. Uh. One of the

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00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: things that that I really came away with was I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised that that he believes that if kirk Cousins ends

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Speaker 1: up in Denver, they would try to retain both Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: Sanders and Demarus Thomas. It was my understanding that they

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00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: would have to let one of those guys go to

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Speaker 1: free up enough cash to go get Kirk Cousins. But

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Speaker 1: it sounds like they're gonna try to do whatever they

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Speaker 1: can to kind of sell kirk Cousins on on this

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Speaker 1: pair of wide receivers. That makes sense, you know, I

620
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: mean you're not gonna go out and spin what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to spend to get a guy like Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins in there and then tell him that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be short and weapons on the outside. I think

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Speaker 1: I think in that scenario, the the odd man out

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00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: ends up being c J. Anderson. Troy mentioned his contract

626
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: being prohibitively big, So if they're gonna bring in Cousins,

627
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Speaker 1: they're going to give him guys the throat too, and

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00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: that means they end up probably going to Vante book

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Speaker 1: or in the backfield. Gross. But you're right, like, if

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Speaker 1: you're just from a recruiting standpoint, you want to have

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Speaker 1: both of those guys in place, because that's really been

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: the only thing that's worked about Denver's passing game pretty

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: much the last two maybe even back to three years.

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: Uh So, if you're trying to woo Cousins, you can

635
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: sell them that both those guys are gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: And it's like Troy said, if Cousins doesn't come, then

637
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: you're looking at like a rebuilding operation. Even if they

638
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: don't want to say it, that's more of what it's

639
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna be. I think either way, though, it looks like

640
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: Anderson is out the door, which is I mean, Booker,

641
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: come on, Bookers, shown nothing to to really think that

642
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be you should be a number one.

643
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: He's average like three point eight and three point one

644
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: yards per carrying his two professional seasons and his try

645
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: mentioned he's faded down the stretch in times where like

646
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: you would think maybe this rookie who hasn't seen a

647
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities would come in and show something and

648
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: and kind of run away with his opportunities like we've

649
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: seen lots of rookie running backs do and given a

650
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: chance to shine, Uh, he hasn't done it. I would

651
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: expect them. We always talk about this being a deep

652
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: running back class. If C. J. Anderson's the door, which

653
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: you probably will be because they haven't out there's no

654
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: money against the dead cab and he's got a four

655
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: point five million dollar contract next to you, which isn't astronomical.

656
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: But if for running backs, that's that's a pretty heavy

657
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: heavy and you gotta pinch pennies now if you if

658
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to bring in a veteran quarterback, and it

659
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: sounds like if they're going to keep the receivers and

660
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: they look at Anderson, then they probably look at somebody

661
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: like to leave on the defensive side of the ball.

662
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's this whole You're right, the f

663
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: C West is really interesting and it's funny to like

664
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: guys Paler from the chief had ranked now from the

665
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: from the Broncos. It is a really like the whole

666
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: division is really up in the air. So it was

667
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: interesting too to hear him say how they a lot

668
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: of people view Smith leaving as an upgrade because he

669
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: has been such such a world beater and like you

670
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: think about I mean, like world beater for Smith is like, okay, whatever,

671
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: he throws two touchdowns and five interceptions, but again, like

672
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: he's never losing games for the Chiefs. And in that

673
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: very rare which team has been going to the playoffs

674
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: the last several years? Like every year it's been the Chiefs.

675
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: So I mean you look at I mean, you look

676
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: at Oakland. And it's funny too because there's so many

677
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: headlines regarding so many of these teams, and yet there's

678
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're just right there. They've got a stable quarterback. Um,

679
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I know that Philip Rivers is getting up there in age,

680
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: but still they're ready to charge it up again next year.

681
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, I mean, they're the forgotten team

682
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: in the a f C West, And really, when I

683
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: think about all the transition that's happening with all these

684
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: other teams, they're in a good place man to to

685
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: try and win that division UH next season. So I'm

686
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: very interested. I love the f C West, I always

687
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: have UM. But and again, the Denver Broncos is definitely

688
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why they're such an interesting UH division.

689
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: C J. Anderson to Miami, so it's does It does

690
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: sound like c J. Anderson might be the odd man

691
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: out there, But c J. Anderson to Miami, that's an

692
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: interesting fit to me. I kind of don't want it

693
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't want it to happen either, because

694
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: I really like Kenyan Drake. I love Oh my god,

695
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: you averaged over a hunter total yards in his last

696
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: I think six games to end the season. He looked

697
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: any sort of elusiveness metric, yards created sort of metric.

698
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: He was incredible, incredible both as a receiver and as

699
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: a rusher. I kind of hope that they just look

700
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: at their roster UH and just decide, Hey, I've got

701
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: we've got enough needs, We've got enough to spend money on.

702
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: I almost try to do it somewhere else. I almost

703
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: wonder if Miami, if they did bring him on, uh

704
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Damian Williams, I would, I would. I don't know what

705
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the contract situation is, but maybe they get rid of

706
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: Damian Williams and they bring in c Anderson just simply

707
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: as a gold line hammer, because I think that's the

708
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: role that suits him probably the best. He's kind of

709
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: a weird back because almost more he's short and stout,

710
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: but he's more of a slasher than I think. He is,

711
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: just a straight power batch And I don't know. Anderson

712
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: to me is in this kind of like I really

713
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: I've definitely liked him at times in his career, but

714
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: he's also in this like Carlos hide Mode who we

715
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: were Mold who we were talking about, and Slack this morning,

716
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Like what's the point of bringing in these veteran backs

717
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: when you know they can easily just be cast by

718
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: the wayside or on in the season and if you

719
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: assue them for a younger, cheaper option. To me, that's

720
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: just the way, I know, you know, what do I know?

721
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: But that was what that's how I would approach like

722
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: a backfield situation this year. Go with some of these

723
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: guys in the draft, don't pay you know, three or

724
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: four million dollars a year to bring in something. I'm

725
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: very curious what happens when free agency opens and a

726
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: lot of these running backs are out there, because there

727
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: are still many of them, as you mentioned, the c J. Anderson's,

728
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: the Carlos Hides, who aren't bad players, but they don't

729
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: really do a lot to move the needle for you. Um,

730
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: can I just ask really quick, why don't people like

731
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide? I love them. I think people were trashing

732
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: him and Slack this morning, trashing I think. I mean, look,

733
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: he is a significant step up from c J. Anderson.

734
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: I love c J. He's better. I think he's better

735
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: than I mean, but I think he's a significant, yes,

736
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: significantly better players. But for somebody who really, you know,

737
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: hates on mark Ingram, Carlos had has never had a

738
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: thousand yards. I mean, he had touches and touchdowns this year,

739
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: but otherwise was I mean barely above replacement level back.

740
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I think what we saw um down the stretch when

741
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy g was under center, I think that's the Carlos

742
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Hide we can get excited about the bottom line is man,

743
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: when they were um in their early season struggles and

744
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: completely winless. I mean, we talked about game script all

745
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: the time on this on this podcast. That's that's a

746
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: rough situation for him, you know. And I know that

747
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: he's struggled to stay healthy as well. Um, but I

748
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: just think when healthy, well, c J. Anderson struggled to

749
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: stay healthy too, So I just think I just think,

750
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, for me, Carlos Hide is is a significant

751
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: upgrade over c J. Anderson. I really like him as

752
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: a player. He just gotta stay healthy. Again. It's basically

753
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: it's like market value to me, Well, like why would

754
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: I want to pay, you know, again, like four or

755
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: five million dollars for a back who I can who

756
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: isn't an above average starter? To me, I think he's

757
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: an average starter at fest and and why am I

758
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: going to do that when I can just pursue a

759
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: cheaper option in the draft? To me, I just I

760
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: just don't want to depends on how close you are though,

761
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be spending all this time

762
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: working with a rookie running back that you've got to

763
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: bring along you know what I mean. And you've got

764
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: to in in in the NFL, you gotta win games early,

765
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if you bring in

766
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: a veteran back that that knows the system, and of

767
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: course system is the biggest thing. A veteran back that

768
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: knows the system, he's a good locker room guy. I

769
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: don't know if high it is or isn't, but I

770
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: know C J. Anderson They've raved about him in the

771
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: locker room. If a team feels like they're close, that's

772
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: why I'm like not that interested in Miami. They're not

773
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: that close, you know what I mean. I think the

774
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: benefit with high too, is that he at least is

775
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: a known commodity, Like he said, maybe he's maybe he's

776
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: like right in the he's like the Andy Dalton line

777
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: of like starting running backs kind of thing where he's

778
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: like he's like the sixteenth best starting running back, maybe

779
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: a little higher, maybe a little lower. But like we've

780
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: seen a lot of these teams that have done that,

781
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: like oh we're gonna draft cheap running backs and have

782
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: it completely blow up in their face. Let's look at

783
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: Washington had Matt Jones, samaj p Ryan, like Keith Marshall

784
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: like all these guys, like there's no guarantee that you're

785
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna find that fifth round gem in the draft. You

786
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: could like the Packers got lucky last year taking a

787
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: couple of late round guys and it looks like they'll

788
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: be solid, you know, ish starters. But like you can,

789
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: you could keep taking all those draft picks and have

790
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: it blow up in your face and not have a

791
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: running game. It's a very good point. So I think

792
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: that's a level maybe four or five million a little much,

793
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: but I mean c J Anderson's excuse me, Carlos Hide.

794
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, his track record so far because of injuries

795
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: and stuff, might lower his price tag a little bit.

796
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Or maybe he takes an incentive load laden deal so

797
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: he can, you know, get in with a good team

798
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and then earn his keep later. All right, let's talk

799
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: about wide receivers now, with of course, the wide receiver

800
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: procnastigator himself. It is Matt Harmon. Boy, young boy from

801
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Hi, you wrote, you wrote a great piece

802
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: on the old dot com er. Thanks. Yeah, it's top

803
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: ten receivers to chase. But what I liked about it

804
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: was that you incorporated some incoming rookies that will be participating,

805
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: many of whom will be I think maybe all of

806
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: whom will be uh participating in the upcoming combine, which

807
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: is happening next week. Yeah, correct, next week, back half

808
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: the next time. I like it, um And some of

809
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: the names you mentioned here, James Washington, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutland,

810
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton easy for you to teach. More. Let's start

811
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: with the bullet naough winner James Washington from Oklahoma State. Yeah,

812
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: he's my favorite receiver that I've watched so far. And

813
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: I'm like real, real early in the whole draft process things,

814
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: so don't but some of the yeah, these are and

815
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: that's why they they're on this list because it's a

816
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: mix it, like you said, mix of free agents and

817
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: draft prospects. And but he's the first draft prospect they

818
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: listed at number four overall on the list. Uh. And

819
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: he's got a great college resume, like you mentioned, over

820
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: three thousand yards and three touchdowns over his last two seasons. Uh,

821
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: and really fun to watch. He's a guy that makes

822
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: big plays. I tweeted out a couple of gifts last

823
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: night if you want to go find them of how

824
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: good he is. At adjusting to poorly throwing balls. That

825
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: was one thing that I came away from from charting

826
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: his games is like, man, there are a lot of

827
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: plays left on the field, whether it was extra yardage

828
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: and he could have gotten if the balls were thrown

829
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: batter or just straight up hitting him in stride. Mason

830
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Rudolph Wolf, there were some real misses for sure. I

831
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: don't know much about Rudolph. I know he's a guy

832
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: that people talk about, but I definitely think that he

833
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: left a lot of extra yards for for Washington on

834
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: the field. He's he's gonna he comes from one of

835
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: these offense where he only lined on one side of

836
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: the field wide open, not gonna run all the routes,

837
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot there. He's a really

838
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: combative player, both with the grade at track in the

839
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: ball in the air and also after the catch. I

840
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: really think he's a guy that has an easy projection

841
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: with like I think he's going to be some sort

842
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: of a contributor and like the Marvin Jones level and

843
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: whether there's more upside there to be a number one receiver.

844
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: I think I want to see how he tests out

845
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: at the combine and agility drills and overall. So I

846
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: do want to ask it, and I'm asking this sincerely

847
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: with somebody like Washington. I bring this up just because

848
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: I was looking at Daniel Jeremiah's list and his top

849
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: I think five or six guys. He didn't have Washington

850
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: in that list. Do you take into account the conference

851
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: he played in? F I know, for some guys, that's

852
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: a night like Oklahoma State. The Big twelve is why

853
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I watched Bedlam. I watched Oklahoma State. If you if

854
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: you like defense, that was not the game fild yea

855
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: it was, you know, still like does that? Do you

856
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: factor that kind of thing in that some of these

857
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: some of his performance and some of his numbers came

858
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: against defenses that were shall we say, yeah, no, for sure.

859
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I think you have to. And I think that just

860
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of have to try to contextualize

861
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: what you're watching and really focus in on just the

862
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: individual player as opposed to what the defensive backs are

863
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: are doing, and try to get some of those reps

864
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: where he where you do see him against press coverage,

865
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, and and again try to

866
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: really hone in on those things. But the cool thing is,

867
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: though you get more game tape with somebody like James Washington,

868
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: they throw the ball. Oh man, It's it's exhausting trying

869
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: to like chart those games as opposed to like an

870
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: NFL player where they're you know what I'm saying, thirty

871
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: five routes a game. You're doing somebody like Washington, you're

872
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: getting up to like forty fifty routes. Like that's enough. Um,

873
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: But I do think, you know, I don't know what

874
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: episode title it was, but one of the recent Move

875
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: the Sticks podcasts, DJ and Bucky talked about these receivers

876
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: coming out of these offenses and how there have been

877
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, whether it's Corey Coleman or

878
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Josh Dockson, some of these guys have you know, taken

879
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: a little while to to heat up. It was a

880
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: really good discussion that I thought was interesting because they

881
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: pointed out that like if you draft a guy in

882
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: the first round or the fifth round out of an

883
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: offense like that, they both have the same learning curves.

884
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: They both have to adjust to a pro style offense,

885
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: and you know, there's no I mean and a fifth

886
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: round guy could pick it up much quicker than the

887
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: first round and that's entirely possible. But you also see

888
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: somebody like coming out, you know, coming out of these

889
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: offenses that makes that do have success to coming out

890
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: of the Big twelve, like a sterling Shepherd. So I

891
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: really like Washington and I think the pros outweigh the cons.

892
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because mostly because and I think

893
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm in line with DJ here Um. You know, his

894
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: mesurables aren't great, you know, six one two old five,

895
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: So he's a smaller type guy. Um, as you mentioned,

896
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: he played in a wide open conference. But if he

897
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: I'll be interested see what his forty time is. But

898
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: it's not projected to be He's not projected to be

899
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: a burner, you know what I'm saying. So he's got

900
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: the body type of maybe makes big plays. He makes

901
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: big plays, there's no question. But I just think it's

902
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: if there's a learning curve and he's undersized and he's

903
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: not that fast, I wonder how high he'll go in

904
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: the draft. That's those are just some of the concerns, UH,

905
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: surrounding James Washington. Can we talk about on the complete

906
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: opposite end of the spectrum, this Courtland's Sutton character from

907
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: smu Man. This guy is a physical beast. He's big,

908
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: really really big. Six to eighteen is what he's listed

909
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: at at s m U. And like when you look

910
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: at yeah, when you when you look at him on

911
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: film to like he looks much bigger than everybody else

912
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: out there. Uh that he's you can obviously go out

913
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: and box out defenders. And I posted a clip of

914
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: him too again on Twitter. And when he gets going

915
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: in like one on the long strides, like nobody's gonna

916
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: catch him, Like he's he just can outrun people that

917
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: way he gets rolling, he's gonna get up there in

918
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: a hurry. I mean, there's there's definitely room for improvement.

919
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 1: Though he's not he's a big guy, but he also

920
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: doesn't really normally extend his hands the high point the

921
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: ball or in contested situation to let the ball get

922
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: into his body. That's something you can clean that up,

923
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: for sure. I think he profiles really well as like

924
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: a possession receiver. And you know, if he can become

925
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: a better technician, because he certainly has room to work

926
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: on as a route runner, he can come become more

927
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: of a consistent technician, then you can maybe see him

928
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: be like a late career to Marius Thomas type of players,

929
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: not the athlete that he used to be, but somebody

930
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: that does win contested balls and and is more of

931
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: that possession receiver. One of the comps that that I

932
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: saw for Courtland Sutton, and I don't necessarily disagree with it,

933
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: but it's a bit of a stretch. But des Bryant

934
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: was a guy that some folks have compared Courtland Sutton

935
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: late career. Does Bryant like so like it's like yeah,

936
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: well yeah, like well, honestly, yeah, like now Dez Bryant,

937
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: because now des Briant is no, he has no long

938
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: He's not adjusted to the expectation of what he is.

939
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have not adjusted, most people watching him not

940
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: adjusted those affectations of The immediate thing to say is like,

941
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: what des Bryant sucks? What that Brian doesn't suck? But

942
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: des Briant is just no longer what he used to be.

943
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: Feel like we've buried des Briant on this podcast the

944
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: last month and a half. We've definite every time he

945
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: comes up. Yeah, because again I think it just he

946
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: needs to adjust his game, like Larry Fitz has adjusted

947
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: his game, and he has not done that in the

948
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: role that he plays as the receiver in Dallas. He's bad.

949
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: I just think that he could and we've talked about

950
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: yeah we've we've had But if he if he adjust,

951
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: I think he can still be a very good player. Yeah,

952
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: I saw. I think Lance comped him to Moosin Mohammed,

953
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: and I love, I love to converceive this to Moosi

954
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Mohammed because he's like one of those Panthers that I

955
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: always remember and he's just like the perfect possession receiver arc.

956
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: He was across from a guy like Steve Smith. Not

957
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna be an elite blow you away guy. Although I

958
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know if the record has been passed, but for

959
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: a long time he did own the record for the

960
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: longest receiving touchdown in Super Bowl history, eighty five yard

961
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Patriots. But this is weird again as

962
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: saying he's not gonna make big plays. But I think

963
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: that's a good kind of at least career arc typological

964
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: com for Courtland Suthing. All right, So DJ More is

965
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: a guy that I literally have not seen at all.

966
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about DJ Moore. He's from Maryland,

967
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: but I know nothing about him. Can you educate me

968
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: and the listener. DJ Moore is fun. I think if

969
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: you watch him, you you will think of Golden Tate.

970
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: That was who I thought of when I watched him.

971
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of other people have had that

972
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: same comparison. I know he checks a lot of production

973
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: metric boxes. You know, looking at the box score, it's

974
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: not all that impressive, but when you put into context,

975
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: you know what he did in the in his own offense.

976
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: People who work with market share metrics really like DJ Moore. Um.

977
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: He's definitely creates a lot of separations at the stem

978
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: of his routes. He's tough after the catch. I think,

979
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: like with eleven personnel dominating the league and slot receivers

980
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: no longer really like a pejorative term. I think you're

981
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna see some teams he's a slot. Yeah, I think

982
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: he's a slot and maybe like outside flanker. You know

983
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: exactly what Golden Tate has become with the Lions, and

984
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: he's been a great player for him. He's had ninety

985
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: catches over ninety at least ninety catches over the last

986
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: four years, and I think you could see more have

987
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: that type of production if he ends up in the

988
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: right place Lance. Actually in his if I remember this

989
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: editing it, um made some comparisons with how much of

990
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: a route running technician d J. Moore was to actually

991
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Diggs, who came out of Maryland as well, and

992
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: it's like it's not just like a Maryland wide receivers thing,

993
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: but their games can profile similarly. And as you're talking

994
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: about like a guy who might seem like to be

995
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: a difference maker in the slot but could also line

996
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: up at why that's also Stefan Diggs direct an extent. Yeah,

997
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: you're right. Calvin Ridley will be another big name out

998
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: of Alabama obviously that will go higher in the draft,

999
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: but we are running low on time, so he's on

1000
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: this list too, so if you want to, if you

1001
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: want to check it out NFL dot com slash top.

1002
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Also on this list is ten Targets. Top ten Targets

1003
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: is the Harmon uh I can't quit you list, including

1004
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, John Brown, and Dante Moncreeve. Yeah. I mean,

1005
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: when you look at this receiver class in free agency,

1006
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of these guys from that are hit

1007
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: in the market, uh now, from that draft class, and

1008
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: a lot of them are reclamation projects me, that's why

1009
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: they're hitting the market, right Donte Marcret, John Brown, you

1010
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: mentioned Allan Robbins is obviously topping the list the most

1011
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: upside of anybody. I mean, even Sammy Watkins is gonna

1012
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get franchise tag hits the market to

1013
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: um And I think you just have to if you're

1014
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: a team, you have to weigh when you're looking at

1015
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: free agency. Do I want to pay a beefy market

1016
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: value for somebody like Marquise Lee? Or do I want

1017
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: to take a chance and and that you probably know,

1018
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: like you're you're probably hitting a double if he doesn't

1019
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: get hurt, You're probably hitting a double if you sign

1020
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: Marquise Lee for market value? Or do you want to

1021
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: potentially take a cheaper deal and try to hit a

1022
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: potential home run with some of these guys, like even

1023
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: even a Terrell Prior, Like, do you want to do that?

1024
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: And to me, that's why those guys are on the

1025
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: list and I did not do it makes it makes sense,

1026
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: And I like all these wide receivers. I just found

1027
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: it funny that as scrolling through the list, I was like, yes, yeah, no,

1028
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: it really is all these you have shirts for like

1029
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: half of those guys that yeah, I know, even Paul,

1030
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: that's true. Even Paul Richardson is on there. And he's

1031
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: someone that's really fascinating to me. Because Robbins is gonna

1032
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: get franchise tag that's gonna happen. Watkins potentially could get

1033
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: franchise tagged. And if those guys are off the market,

1034
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: then I think Paul Richardson becomes the top X receiver

1035
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: on on the market. Uh. And so teams like San

1036
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: Francisco that are looking for one of those outside receivers,

1037
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: they could easily look at a at a player like

1038
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: Paul richards who's coming off his best year and what

1039
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: he does best is both rare and valuable. He wins

1040
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: in tight windows and down the field. He like that

1041
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: dude just like sells big place for. He does not

1042
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: make routine catches like slants. No, he needs to be

1043
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: on the sideline toe tapping guy draped over him fifty

1044
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: yards down the field. That being said, I love the way.

1045
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I love the sharpness in which he gets in and

1046
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: out of his break. Oh he's good. I like Paul.

1047
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm really good. Really curious to see where he lands.

1048
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: And he could be a guy that we spend a

1049
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of digital income and fantasy sleeper talk this offseason.

1050
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: I think so, man, And you know it's funny too,

1051
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: because he's a guy that has not necessarily been on

1052
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot of Folks radars. He's had a lot of injuries,

1053
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: like he was a second round draft pick, don't forget.

1054
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: And he had a massive forty time, like a low

1055
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: forty time, like a very impressive one, rather not massive

1056
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: like kind of five f forty is a wide receiver,

1057
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: but uh like big injuries derailed his production and the

1058
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: emergence of other options in Seattle, and now he's starting

1059
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: to finally get a chance to shine. Yeah, I'll be

1060
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: interested in him, man. I'd love to see where he goes.

1061
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he goes back to Seattle, who knows, We'll see um.

1062
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's close out the show with a round

1063
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: of daily depths. We'll start with you. Well, obviously, if

1064
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: the depth Black Panther came out last weekend, I saw

1065
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: it on Thursday night. I know Marcus did. He actually

1066
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: went to see it twice. But I'm sure this is

1067
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna be Marcus's daily DEPP as well. But it was

1068
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: just it was fantastic, Like not only is it an

1069
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: amazing movie, like top to bottom until a great story,

1070
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: it's got great characters, Like it's one of the best

1071
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: Marvel movies I think in terms of just like the

1072
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: depth of the roster of characters and how rich and

1073
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: like fully formed all of them are, Like most of

1074
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: the side characters are really great and have a unique

1075
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: perspective and bring something in his story instead of just

1076
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: being like bad guy number two or like sidekick and

1077
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like that. So and that it's just

1078
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: an important movie. That it was such a predominantly African

1079
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: American cast and then it's smashed box office records. That's

1080
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: not just the cast, but also the director behind the

1081
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: scenes sick. And yeah, it's But the best thing I

1082
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: saw was that Black Panther in four days in the

1083
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: U S box office, outgross the entire two month run

1084
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: of Justice League. Wow. Hello uh Marcus Grant. Uh Yeah,

1085
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna double up on that and and that that

1086
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: Black Panther because it was fantastic. Twice I did. I

1087
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: saw it twice on Thursday night, saw it again on

1088
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: Saturday night. It was fantastic. Also. One of that was

1089
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: one of these I picked theaters. Um They're one of

1090
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: these theaters with so like they have like recliners and

1091
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: like the they have the servers that come into the theater,

1092
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: like you can push the button and somebody you know,

1093
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing better than you're sitting there and

1094
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: then you order some wings and a jack and coke

1095
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Like that's pretty good. And they have blankets and stuff

1096
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: places awesome. Uh sounds like home kind of movie at home,

1097
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: but you pay for it and there's a lot of strangers, right,

1098
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: so you know, you don't get brand new screenings of

1099
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Panther at the big screen. That's big screen experience. Uh,

1100
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: speak for yourself. And then uh my, my last one

1101
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: actually goes out to the kids at Parkland, Parkland, Florida. Yeah,

1102
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: we've kind of just made who really kind of tried

1103
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: to make a difference. Now. Obviously, you know, the shooting

1104
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: was last week and we all kind of watched a

1105
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: lot of us watching from Afar as everything happened there.

1106
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: But just the fact that these kids I've sort of

1107
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: found a voice now, uh and really kind of galvanized

1108
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: and are really trying to make their feelings known. The

1109
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: fact that they have gone to Tallahassee, they've gone to Washington. Uh.

1110
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: You know, I think in an age where everybody is

1111
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: sort of trying to find their voice and their message

1112
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: and their cause, these kids have found one and they've

1113
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: really rallied around it, and I think they've been kind

1114
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: of inspirational for a lot of people. Yeah, no doubt

1115
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: about absolutely, it's been a good one. Um. I will

1116
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: daily dap a place, snow Drift snow Tubing Park. It's

1117
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: in Running Springs, California, which is uh, kind of in

1118
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: between Arrowhead and Big Bear. Um. But I went there

1119
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: for the first time over the weekend. Took my kid

1120
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: out there. She saw snow for the very first time.

1121
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: What think, Oh, she loves Well, it's like a lot

1122
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: of little kids. So when you do the tube, and

1123
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: you also have to go down head first, um to

1124
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: be able to stop yourself with your feet, although she

1125
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: doesn't really do that, but but she's going down head first,

1126
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: and she was not wanting to do it at first,

1127
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, we'll just make We'll just make snowman,

1128
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or do snow angels or whatever.

1129
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, listen, we'll just do

1130
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: it like a couple of times and then and then

1131
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: we'll go and make this. We we did a couple

1132
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: of times and she literally was like, Okay, I want

1133
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: to do it a hundred times. Yeah, got hooked. But

1134
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: the literal quote out of her mouth was I want

1135
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: to do this a hundred I was like, okay, cool,

1136
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: So so we did that. Um, it's actually a decent

1137
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: workout too, because you gotta like take your tube and

1138
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: go up the hill and they kin go up the

1139
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: hill anyways. But but no, it's a lot of fun.

1140
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: As first time she ever saw snow uh side daily

1141
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: DApp really to l A weather. If you think about it,

1142
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: it was it was like seventy five degrees on Saturday

1143
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: in the l A Basin, but when we went up

1144
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: in into the snow and snow drift park, it was

1145
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: like fifty degrees or whatever, and and and God bless snowmakers,

1146
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, artificial snowmaker. But but yeah, man, it was

1147
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: just it's an interesting it's such an interesting experience if

1148
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: you think about it, to go up into the snow

1149
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: and then two hours later you're in eighty degree heat,

1150
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, that's that's something that's

1151
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: very you know, That's what I've always told people is

1152
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: like a great thing about l A is that you're

1153
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: a short ish drive from any sort of climate you

1154
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: could want. Really, like, you want to go in the winter,

1155
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: you want to go see snow, you want to ski,

1156
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: take a couple hour drive to Mammoth the Baby. You

1157
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: wanted to the beach there, it is there, it is.

1158
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: You want to go to the desert. Joshua Tree right

1159
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: over there, daily depths of snow drift, snow tubing park.

1160
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: All right, Matt Harmon, what you got Hmmm, I think

1161
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: I go to producer Erica. No, no, no no, I think

1162
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: I'll daily dap the speaking of l A and and

1163
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: some of what it has to offer. The Kenneth Han

1164
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: Recreation Center right in Culver City or I love that ball.

1165
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: I love That's awesome, Like it's it's a great example

1166
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: of places like right in the middle of the city. Um,

1167
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: and you can go there and do a pretty pretty decent,

1168
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: like fun hike and you've got a great view of

1169
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: you can totally drive by it and not even know

1170
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: it's there. Oh yeah, no for sure, and then you

1171
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: but you get like a great view of the city.

1172
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: I took some pictures there this weekend with the with

1173
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: the dog with the old chuck with old Chuck. Oh,

1174
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: so that was good. Definitely enjoyed that. Um and yeah

1175
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: that I guess that's my daily thing. Okay there. Oh

1176
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: I want to tell the story though about about so. Yeah,

1177
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: shockingly I remembered something about yourself. Well, yeah, that's weird

1178
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: that someone else tells me something about that moment. Forget it,

1179
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: but if it's about me, I will probably remember. But

1180
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: so last so last night, I'm just doing some work

1181
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: late at night or whatever. Get it. Just a pop

1182
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: a tweet pops up in my mentions from Taylor Gabriel

1183
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: and he just says, I feel at Matt Harmon, I

1184
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: feel so disrespected l O L think face. I'm like,

1185
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: what the hell did I do to Taylor Gabriel? Um?

1186
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: So I start my name on Twitter with his and

1187
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I was like I can't find anything. Um and so

1188
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: then he so then he followed me. I was like,

1189
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: I followed back, and he hops in the d M

1190
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: s and he's like reading your top ten lists and

1191
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm not on it? What's up? And I was like,

1192
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: oh sorry, man, Like I was like I think. I

1193
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: was like, look, I think you're good. Like you didn't

1194
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: get enough touches this year. I hope you get your

1195
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: money or whatever, and and he's like he kind of

1196
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: goes on. He went on. It was he was really

1197
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: funny about San Francisco this year. No, I didn't land.

1198
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: You just forgot because they didn't give me any touch.

1199
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: And so that's why he was like, he was just

1200
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: like man, smh, like I can't get I can't make

1201
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: I can't make your top ten if I don't get

1202
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: touches or whatever. No, So I tried to I tried

1203
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: to ask him a little bit like where you think

1204
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna go whatever. He didn't. He's still just being

1205
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: funny about it. So I sent him an article too

1206
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: about about that, because in that name shar it's just

1207
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: popped up. One of my first articles I ever wrote

1208
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: about here was him as like a deep sleeper when

1209
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: he was with the Browns. I was like, look, man,

1210
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm on this, I'm on the chain. He says, somewhere

1211
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: along the line, you lost faith. Don't worry. I got

1212
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: you in Ineen though, and so he was pretty he

1213
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: was pretty cool on it. So I thought that was

1214
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: that was a funny little story. I said. I was like, man,

1215
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: if they'd only let me do top twelve, like I asked,

1216
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: obviously on the list and he said, I think he's

1217
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I think he said it's exactly road was, I gotta

1218
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: go do top ten like top twelve. I gotta go

1219
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: work out, bro, I'll see you later. Wow, that's a

1220
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: great story. That's a great story. Social media, it's great.

1221
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: I gotta love it. Twitter, it was. It was hilarious

1222
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: because but I mean because sometimes players will come at

1223
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: you and the night and I'm on, I'm I'm in

1224
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: favor of this, Like I think players should totally call

1225
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: out writers for for stuff, especially if they're wrong, Like

1226
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: why not That's what I said. He's like, I'm gonna

1227
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: have to save this top twelve or top ten list.

1228
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, I come back next year and throw

1229
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: it in my face. What do I care? So yeah, no,

1230
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm in favor of that. But it's funny

1231
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: when they come in and have like a funny actually

1232
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: also it's funny think like Taylor Gabriel is like sitting

1233
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: there read my article, like, let me tweet this guy.

1234
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I love it. It's fun. It's I absolutely love it.

1235
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: Producer Erica will you close? Hey, Yeah, of course for

1236
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: something we actually heard from. I didn't even get you.

1237
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: You should have called me on the intros. Now it's

1238
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's cool. I'm showing Christina here the ropes.

1239
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: She's back here. What's up. She's gonna be producing us

1240
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: next week, just for Wednesday. Yes, I am going to

1241
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 1: Indie humble b Yeah, just going to the b d um. Yeah,

1242
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: so that would be fun. Uh, daily depths to that

1243
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: in the future, a preemptive Dad's first. I think that's

1244
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: the first preemptive depth we've ever had. Good future depths

1245
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: to the to the steak Okay, cool steakhouses, we get

1246
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: it must be nice. Yeah, it's pretty fun, awesome, lots

1247
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: of snaps. Um, no daily adaps to my puppy. He

1248
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: had his first weekend of training classes like group classes,

1249
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: and he was and he killed it and he was

1250
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: the best one. He got the he was he was

1251
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: the best one. Granted he's actually three and they were

1252
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: all legitimate puppies, right, so you gamed the system a

1253
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Well, yeah, he's just like he's so small

1254
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: dogs Billy Madison. Then these like little pubs that was

1255
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: like it was the size of a cell phone and

1256
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: they were like barely sitting and thora was sitting for

1257
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: treats and so like he got the gold star for

1258
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: like the day, and I was sort of embarrassed because

1259
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: they're like six weeks old, and don't don't be embarrassed.

1260
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing more prideful than when your dog smashes

1261
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 1: in in like puppy training class. It's great because because

1262
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: you're just looking at home, like, look at two idiots

1263
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: and miss paved dogs. Even when I'm walking the dog

1264
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: on the treat and like the other dog like freaks

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Speaker 1: out and like wants to come up and like barket

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Speaker 1: and Chuck just keeps walking like damn right good, that's

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Speaker 1: a good dog right there. Or absolutely killed it. I

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Speaker 1: was so proud he destroyed those dogs. I think you

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Speaker 1: guys take more pride and your respective dogs than I

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Speaker 1: do in my child. Definitely, well because definitely, but your

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Speaker 1: child can almost talk, can talk almost actually right right,

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Speaker 1: So so Thor Thor is a year younger, but he

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Speaker 1: hasn't formed you know, like sentences yet. Yeah, not yet.

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Speaker 1: So we're really working on you know right now. It's

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Speaker 1: it's get me wine. That's why that's why I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: him to training. So you're turning into okay, because he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a service. Yes, yes, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: this is the goal, this is the dream. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: haven't you seen those dogs that can go pull on

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Speaker 1: the fridge and then they can get a beer? I want?

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Speaker 1: Isn't he like as big as a bottle of wine?

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Speaker 1: He's strong? His name is Thor, Like I love it

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Speaker 1: when Tampo is like the perfect type of person that

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Speaker 1: throws out like an outrageous thing and then like comes

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Speaker 1: back at you like, how dare you question that outrageous

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Speaker 1: thing that I just said? Don't get indignant because we

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Speaker 1: called you on an obvious error. Okay, when Thor is

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Speaker 1: getting me wine and would be mad, maybe that can

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Speaker 1: be your new gift. You're not going to deviate from. No, no,

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Speaker 1: all right, What a great show we had here today

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Speaker 1: for Erica Producer Erica, for mg MI guy Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: for Alex Gilhar the whiz kid from Wisconsina, The Wide

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Speaker 1: Receiver Podcast here the broad West Virginia Matt Harmon, I'm

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Speaker 1: still not from there. I'm James. Okay, we'll see. I'm

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Speaker 1: don't I don't