WEBVTT - Omarosa Got To Get Out 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.040 Hey, the folks today, we are talking about the all 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.559 time greats. You know, those people in the world will 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.160 reached such a level of fame, such a level of accomplishment, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.640 such a level of greatness that they just go by 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.360 one name. Yeah, so we're talking about the mononym of 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.560 folks out there in robes. We're gonna start this episode 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.840 a little different. Everybody knows these names. You give me 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.560 your reaction when I say Madonna. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:33.080 Oh, material girl, Shack, amazing basketball player, share, I mean, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.560 could you get a better singer? 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:35.360 Zendaya? 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.960 Yeah, she's gorgeous in a phenomenal actress. Beyonce Yeah, I 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.880 mean enough, I mean, hello, she is Beyonce. Kobe Yeah, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.920 shooting some hoops, sting. Yeah, he knows how to sing 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:50.680 as well. Bono Yeah, another great musician. Nelly, love him too. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.000 I gets getting hot in here. Adele, Yes, she can 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.240 sing a few notes. Rihanna, Yeah, I love her. Mega 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:02.960 Eminem one of the greatest. Prince Yeah, hello, Oprah Wow, yes, 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.720 of course, Yeah, Lizzo, They're They're all incredible and we 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.080 know who they are immediately. Yeah, what do you want 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.440 me to say with that? 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.640 Folks? Welcome to this edition. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:25.160 Amy, do you Jay Oh Baco battle can sing and 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:26.920 you're like, what do you want me to say? 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.000 You know what I'll tell I'll tell you a morosa 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.759 the word that came in my mind. And I know 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.080 it's going to piss you off because it would piss 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.280 me off. But villain, that is the word that came 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.360 to my mind. You have been vilified no matter what 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.160 you do, no matter what show you're in, no matter 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.600 what book you write, there's always a way to vilify you. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.880 So yes, that word came to my head and I 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.600 didn't want to say it out loud, but I'll say it. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.240 I'll say that is the word that came to my mind. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.240 It's unfair, it's unfounded, but that that is how you 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.400 have been portrayed is. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.640 An unfair unfounded Do you welcome that label sometimes? 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.640 You know, I understand where it comes from. But you 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.240 guys have been vilified to you know, sometimes this is 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.560 fairly and unfairly. But I have leaned into the villain 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.600 persona at different times in my career. But twenty years later, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.919 I'm a little surprised, right because you know, after twenty 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.680 years you kind of get to realize that reality TV 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.960 is what it is. But I lean into it. I 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.240 don't mind and speaking my name right on the check. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:34.480 Okay, yeah, speaking of reality TV, Yes, let's backup and 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:39.120 introduce yes, mss Omerosa Manigault Newman, who, of course is 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.160 reality show reality competition show royalty in this Country, also 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.880 author of the book Unhinged Poses to Get That Right, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.720 an insider's account of the Trump White House. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.560 Yes and insider. Yes, she is a best selling authorber Welcome, Welcome, wealthy. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.440 It is so good to see you. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.200 When when is y'alls book coming out? 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.959 Well, we've talked about. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.040 It, new's here today. When when is the book coming out? 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.680 Okay? I am not okay, we Morosa is so funny 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.800 you said this and Robes doesn't even know this yet. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.600 But as we're recording this sixteen minutes ago, I got 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.440 a email from a book agent. I kid you not. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.359 That is so weird that that just happens, same wavelength. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.680 But we don't know when the book might be coming out. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.000 But welcome, welcome. Why look, you've done a lot of 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.280 reality shows. Why this one now? On this new one? 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:28.480 On? 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.560 Who help me with the title here? I got to 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.680 get out? Got to get Out is the title of it. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.120 But why did this one appeal to you? 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.480 Well, first of all, thank you all for having me on. Sorry, Amy, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.680 I didn't mean to get you know, on you so early. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.160 No, no, it's not all right. You're living up to 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.800 your reputation. A morosa set it. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:55.480 Off early in this interview. I'm celebrating twenty years in 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.480 this amazing business. I'm celebrating twenty years of doing what 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.040 I'd love to do and so so I kind of 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.760 challenged my agent, amazing Anthony DiBiase, to find something fun 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.800 for me to do to celebrate my twentieth year anniversary 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.560 and reality TV. And this pitch was so it was 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.800 so crazy and fun and exciting. The more he described it, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.800 I was like, now tell me again, what do I 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.359 have to do? Just get out of the house for 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.880 a million dollars to sign me up? And it's an 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:28.919 amazing mansion, thirty five thousand square foot million dollar mansion 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.560 in Canada, And it was. It was incredible. It was 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.360 an incredible experience and I'm so happy that I did 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.240 it in order to give my fans exactly what they 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.480 wanted my twentieth anniversary. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.479 Ah, I love that give the fans exactly what they wanted. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.919 Do they expect you to be a villain, to be 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.360 you know, conniving, to be manipulated. I mean, you said 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.400 you leaned into it, but are you acting in a 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.880 way or are you just drawing on that side of 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.240 your personality? How do you go into a show like this? 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.720 Do you have a a persona in mind or almost 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.480 like a script in your head? Or is it truly 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.160 just you being authentically yourself. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.600 I mean, not to get too deep on this early morning, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.920 but the reality is is that if a woman goes 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.839 into a competitive environment and she decides to play the 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.760 game just as tough, as strategic as the men, we 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.039 get the labels right. So there's a million dollars on 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.080 the line and I'm trying to find every twist, turn 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.320 up down strategy to get out of this house to win, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.240 and instead of being labeled the hero for doing so, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.599 then the title is the villain. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:36.039 Right. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.000 I like to win and from the first time that 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.800 you saw me on your TV screens, you knew that 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.400 I wanted to win, and still did everybody else. But 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.200 because I played the game my way, it was labeled 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.279 as a villainous approach, as opposed to some of the 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.760 other labels that people got, So that's fair. But the 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.680 truth of the matter is women trying to be competitive 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.160 in an environment like that, We're going to get every 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.720 single name that you can attach to women who are 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.960 strong and smart and strategic, as opposed to just calling 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.600 us what we are, which is fantastic, fabulous, go get 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:10.000 or women. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.760 I love that, I mean, and it's funny. I even see, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.000 like my daughters who are now young women, they actually 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.839 lean into the term boss bitch. I mean they own 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.880 it in a way like it's really bit right, like 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.440 that kind of like it's a compliment. It's not a negative. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.800 But it's something that we've had to turn around as 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.200 women specifically, because yeah, when you're demonstrative, when you're when 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:32.960 you know what you want and you know how to 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.320 get it, suddenly you're a bad guy. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.040 So both of y'all though, actually both you Robes and Morosa. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.160 Has that changed? Has it changed Morosa since you were 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.279 on twenty years ago first started. Do we view women 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.560 differently in these environments or is it feel exactly the 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:48.560 same as always? Oh? 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.039 No, it is not changed. Unfortunately, I would have loved 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.159 to say that the industry has evolved, or the persona 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.520 the perceptions have evolved for strong women, but it hasn't, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.000 and we constantly have to defend decisions that we make 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.159 to advance our own interests. I'm tired of apologizing for 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.119 going out there and getting what I want, going after 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.680 what I want, and accomplishing my goals. Call me what 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.000 you want, but don't call me late for dinner, okay? 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:16.360 You know. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.119 And as to what you're saying, if you think about 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.680 even obviously not many people have the reality show experience 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.920 you've had, the New York Times best selling author of 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.320 experience you've had, and a political career on top of it, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.360 And when you think about what we've seen from Hillary 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.760 Clinton to Kamala Harris, I mean, powerful women can't even 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.240 get elected by other women. I mean it really is true. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.760 And you've seen the inside workings of politics and what 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.160 it's like behind the scenes. How are women treated in 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.920 the White House in that environment. Is it the same 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.360 as what you've experienced in reality shows or is it different? 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.400 Well? I kind of feel like I mean that I've 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.680 had a chance to watch you go through your career 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.240 over the years, and I've seen how you've had to 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.720 fight for your career and fight for your position and 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.600 your stature. I think you could probably attest that we 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.280 have to work even harder than our male counterparts to 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.920 gain the type of respect that we want to get 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.240 to the levels that we want to get to. And 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.560 I do see it no matter what industry I'm in. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.040 I've worked in politics, as you know, I've worked in entertainment, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.720 I've worked in business, and I see the same dynamics 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.840 playing over and over again. And the one thing I 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.520 want to just say to any of the women that 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.720 are watching, stop apologizing for going after what you want. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.920 Stop trying to get people to like you or to 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.000 get them to invite you into spaces that you're not welcome. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.400 Create spaces for yourself, define for yourself who you are 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.079 and what you want to accomplish, and then go after it. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.400 I love what you just said. Omris we Robock and 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.120 I debated about should we start with some politics stuff, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.360 should we do the reality show stuff first? And I'm 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.760 glad we've gone the direction we've gone. That is great, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.880 great advice from someone who has seen it at many 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:05.280 different levels. What is it, though, that you find that 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.600 women struggle so hard with? Because because I've had that 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.920 said before, had some people say I've been in a room. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:15.280 I've never said that to women, but I've been when 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.600 it's been said, and sometimes the reaction is wow, that 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.840 sounds so easy. But like, what is the butt to 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.520 try to get someone over that hump? Like that's easy 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.480 to say, and that's not my personality or I'm just 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.120 trying to play nice so I can get this job. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.839 What is the butt to get people over that hump? 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.560 I think the butt is the freedom of defining your 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.560 own terms, laying out your own path. That's the freedom 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.320 that I have now. You know, I hear people when 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.079 you say the name a Morosa, you get these different reactions. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.480 And at this point, I truly am free from what 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.000 people think of me. And the moment you get to 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.800 that point where you no longer care about other people's opinion, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.640 it is a level of freedom that people you know, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.760 aspire to to get to. And so I'm happy that 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.800 I am here at this point in my life and 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:10.240 that I can actually empower and inspire other women to 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.480 embrace that power as well. 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.400 This is an absolute personal question. How long did it 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.640 take you to get there? I'm serious, that's so hard 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.800 for people like us. I think we're getting better about it, 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.840 but we aren't there yet. What did it take? How 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.640 long did it take for you to get to that? 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520 No, for TJ, I've known you long enough to know 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.640 that you have handled these situations with a lot of grace, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.880 a lot of grace under fire from attacks that some 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.719 of them you just truly didn't deserve. So I appreciate 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.040 that you're still going through that storm, but I'm going 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.200 to tell you, at the end of that storm, the 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.520 only thing you have are the people that you truly 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.040 love and the things that are important to you change 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.120 over time, and you change because of those challenges and 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.800 those obstacles that you have to overcome. I know that 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.840 I've changed over the years. You've watched me through my 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.320 ups and downs, my battles, whether it was in the 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.119 White House, whether I was battling for positioning in Hollywood. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.080 You've watched those changes. And I can tell you because 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.160 of those storms, I'm a better person. I'm a stronger person, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.560 and I can absolutely tell you that I'm a wiser 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 person and act accordingly. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.200 Yeah, all of our show was a therapy se. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.520 Right, so tell us more. But it's funny because we 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.880 did get to probably one of our lowest points was 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.840 when everyone has said the worst possible things about you 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.200 that you could have never even imagined someone would print 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.320 about you. Once you get to that place, you're kind 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.360 of like, there is a freedom on the other side 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.960 of You're like, what else can they say? They've already 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.760 said it all. There's actually nothing else they could say 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.240 that would be worse than that, And so there is freedom. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.599 When you start looking at it through that lens. It's 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.000 a tough spot to be in, but it is perspective 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.200 that ultimately will give you peace and will set you free. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.560 But you and I and TJ, we all know that 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.160 we're still potentially when you've got that background or someone 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.559 can google you and find. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.839 Whatever your clickbait forever, Like, does the clickbait ever end? 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.160 Even when you're going through this new reality show and 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.040 you've got new adventures in new projects, you're still like 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.840 one of those people who will I don't know forever 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.480 be potentially clickbait. How do you deal with that? 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.400 Oh my gosh, the clickbait. The reason the clickbait bothers me, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.040 And not all of it does, but the people who 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.400 I'm close to that causes those headlines, and some of 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.040 it is very innocent. One of my castmates who I 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.439 absolutely adore on this show. Her name is Susan. She's 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.640 from the Golden Bachelor, and I think quite innocently gave 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.640 an interview where she talked about her first encounter with me, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.720 which was captured by the cameras and is a part 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.040 of the episode. I walk in, I say, Hi, Susan, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.040 I'm omar Rosa. Nice to meet you. The headline says, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.840 Susan and Omrosa have a huge spat, a huge arch 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.280 And I'm reading the article going, what art that we have? 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.760 This is a person who I adore, who every morning 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.920 I woke up and had incredible breakfast for. But there 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.560 was one line in her interview where she talked about 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.840 saying I don't watch reality TV, and I said to her, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.719 you might want to change your tune since you are 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.480 in fact shooting a reality show like right now. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:21.400 That's good advice. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.640 That was the headline that came out of it, that 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.920 we had some huge fats. So when it's people that 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.360 I care about, people who are in my inner circle, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.040 and they become kind of caught up in this web 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.640 of clickbait, that does in fact bother me. But for 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.760 the most part. The other stuff, I just kind of 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.760 throw it away. It doesn't bother me. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.400 I felt. And you talked about Susan Knowles, who we love, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.880 we adore her, and I told her you were going 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.560 to be on the show, and I don't think she 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.600 will mind me saying this, but she flat out wrote 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.840 she is a sweetheart. She knows her shit. Oh that 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.520 is what she wrote about you. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.640 But no one will print that headline because it's kind, 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.120 because it's nice, because it's women supporting women, and that's annoying. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.480 It is. It is quite annoying. But then, on the 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.200 other hand, I had another pastmate and he sent me 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.800 a text and said, I'm doing an interview and I'm 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.439 going to just tell them how we had such a 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.479 great time on the show and how much of sweetheart 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.920 you were. The next headline I'm telling you twenty four 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.880 hours later was the Daily Mail saying that this housemate said, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.760 you will never believe what Omerosa did in my bed. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.120 I said, what, I'm happily married. We went to a 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.000 pastor for eight years. What do you talk about what 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.800 I said of it? I put a one of the 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.680 props in his bed. It was a rat, like a 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.120 rat heead and I put it in his bed walked away. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.600 It was a practical joke. But for the headline to 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.960 say you will never believe what she did in my bed, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.440 as if I did something lascidious in his bed, it was. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.280 That was one of those things where I was like, Okay, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.000 this is taking clickbait way too far. He instantly corrected it. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.120 But those are the moments where they're like your friends 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.640 and people that you you care about, and they get 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.320 caught into that deception. And the deception is click here, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.840 read the story. But the story has nothing to do 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:08.680 with the headlines. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.040 We knew that intellectually when we were a journalists, but 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.880 until it happens to you, you can't actually really know 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.040 what it's like and the impact it has. To the 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:24.080 point now, TJ and I have made a pact between 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.320 us when we're researching from morning run and doing you know, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.800 we have to click on a lot of articles to 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.040 get all the information we need when we see something 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.240 that we know has to be clickbait, and it's so 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.520 temping because you're thinking, really, what, we will not click 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.680 on it just for the principle of the matter. Yeah, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.400 I will read the link and say is that clickbait, Yes, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.320 do not click it. Go to make a point like 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.800 we won't give them one more click, and we can 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:49.120 help it. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.760 With all the Megan Marco stuff, you know, any mean 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.960 Marco star, ninety nine point nine percent of the time, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.560 it's going to be clickbait, like none of it is real, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.560 and some of it is so tempting, you know, because 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.080 I adore her, I interacted with her when I was 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.640 out here in Hollywood, wonderful, her mother is wonderful, She's 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.320 a great person. So you're you care about her, so 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.480 you want to read if there is something happening. But 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.600 ninety nine point of everything written about her is in 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:16.360 fact clickbait. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.360 What would you say, so far, o Morosa in this interview? 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.640 What is what do we give people that they're going 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.400 to pluck out and make a negative headline about? Have 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:36.440 we blown it already? 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:37.640 Probably? 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.600 Well no, I will. I will, however, say that the 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:47.160 idea that you all are writing this amazing book is 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.160 a headline I just or you and I'm so happy 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.320 I'm a part of this because I'll get the first 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.960 copy and you'll have to autograph it. But breaking news, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.320 Amy and Day are writing a tell all book. And 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.880 it'll be on your bookshelves in time for Christmas. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.160 Boy, she knows the game. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:07.960 I was just gonna say, she knows what she's doing. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.679 Yeah, speaking of that, when I saw that you were 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:15.080 going to be on this new reality show, celebrity reality 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.000 competition show, I immediately thought, that's unfair. Obviously she's gonna win. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.520 She has an advantage of Do you feel like that? 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.280 When I look at you and the people you were 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.040 up against, I'm like, that's not fair. She's gonna wipe 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.040 the floor with these folks, right, But. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.000 I have a built in disadvantage because they know everything. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.440 If you want to know anything about how I've played 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.320 in these competitive games going all the way back from 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.879 The Apprentice, Brother, Fear Factor, Girls, Behavior, you name it, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.879 you can watch how I've competed. So they kind of 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.040 know my strategy. And a lot of them, particularly the 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.439 folks who are movies, that's what they call them, movies, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.520 they didn't want to work with me. They're like, oh, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:53.879 I don't want to team up with her, so they 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.240 would team up with people who just were completely ineffective. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.080 So they would rather lose with somebody who was ineffective. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.679 Then you know, team up with me, so I had 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.440 to evolve my game and it was okay. I didn't 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:09.840 take it personal. Actually I leaned into it. You try 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:15.600 to get intel good information, and it worked quite well 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.120 for me, I believe. But yes, the disadvantage is that 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.359 everybody knows a lot about me. The advantages A lot 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.159 of people know a lot about me and they know 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.720 I like to win. So if you want to be 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.639 able to winner, you know, sign up with me. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.520 Now, Homer, have you been able to watch the season 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.000 all the way through yet? How far have you watched 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:35.480 on your own? 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.399 I watched it with my my, my dear husband, and 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.520 what he did was not prepared for was that I 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:48.280 had that encounter with Spencer in our primary bathroom. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.800 We haven't made it to that yet. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.399 Oh okay, okay, I don't want to ruin for the viewers, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:57.720 but I will give you this little tippet. Kim Zaziak 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.639 and Cynthia Bailey from the House Vibes my roommates. I 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.679 was very blessed to have them because it was just 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.160 such a good time in our room. But we did 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.159 kidnap a life size bear from a girl from the Bachelor. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.480 I know this sounds like crazy town, from a girl 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.840 from the Bachelor who I just love. Her name is Demmy. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.080 We stole her bear as a part of a clue 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:22.160 to get almost six hundred thousand dollars. I'm just gonna 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.920 preview that for you, and it all held broke loose. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.919 It was the craziest episode of the entire show. You 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.760 see me running through the house with a bear. You'll 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.919 see Kim hiding the bear and us trying to disguise 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.879 this life size bear. When I tell you, it's the 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.240 most fun that I've had in a very long time. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:37.919 That's cool. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.480 I mean, it was just I'm an adrenaline junkie. I 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.480 got all my fix from the adrenaline because they're race 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.600 cars and Lamborghinis and clues and big money at stakes 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.080 and runs and a lot of laughs. So it was good. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.600 Omros, we heard a kidnap bear. That sounds like a 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.240 funny enough prank. So what in all that scenario did 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.960 your husband particularly have an issue with and didn't like 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.119 so much? In that episode? 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.000 She thought she was like getting around that and not 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.359 actually having to directly answer that we were podcaster. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.919 I've forgotten big pros. Y'all were not going to allow me, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.399 so in order to not film in the bathroom, a 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.679 person cannot be in a state of undress. That's a 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.840 rule on reality TV. They the cameras just can't come 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.240 into the room. Spencer comes with his big camera crew. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.240