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Speaker 1: discretion is advised. This was physical. I really struggled with it.
Speaker 1: The more I remembered, the weirder it got.
Speaker 2: Something has physically happened to me, like in an interview
Speaker 2: like this half an hour ago.
Speaker 3: It turned on.
Speaker 1: What do you mean.
Speaker 2: You've been talking to it ever since? It's working now
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: You can see it.
Speaker 3: You can feel it. Can I feel it? You're not,
Speaker 3: you can feel it.
Speaker 2: It's right here, right under my hand, right now. This
Speaker 2: is a piece of biomechanical technology, an alien implant.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this story.
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Speaker 5: Strange, Welcome to let me King lie God I. Closing
Speaker 5: covers of the third guy, Whittley Shreeper says, they're really
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 4: He is Whitley Strieber.
Speaker 6: There is the book, and it is a continuation of
Speaker 6: his enormous bestseller Communion.
Speaker 1: In the late nineteen eighties. I Reeber had a moment
Speaker 1: in pop culture.
Speaker 6: After I finally realized that this probably was real, something
Speaker 6: that was non human, that was intelligent, started trying to
Speaker 6: challenge it to get through my fear. Over a period
Speaker 6: of months, I formed a relationship with them that I
Speaker 6: believe could be a template, almost almost as if they
Speaker 6: have one end of a phone and we've had two wires.
Speaker 3: How do you know you're not nuts well.
Speaker 6: First of all, we were flooded with thousands of letters
Speaker 6: from people who basically wanted to know if I could
Speaker 6: help them explain what had happened to them. And these stories,
Speaker 6: one after another that had elements to them, unpublished elements
Speaker 6: to them that suggested that this is much more than
Speaker 6: a dream, that there is something happening to people that's
Speaker 6: similar from case to case.
Speaker 1: Late night television talk shows, bestsellers. But outside all the
Speaker 1: mainstream success, there were hundreds than thousands of people who
Speaker 1: reached out to him privately, who were saying this happened
Speaker 1: to me too, some details that weren't even public. And
Speaker 1: that's when the question shifts not is Whitley lying, but
Speaker 1: more like, why are so many people describing the same thing?
Speaker 1: What happens next is where Whitley's story gets even harder
Speaker 1: to categorize.
Speaker 2: About a year later, one of my neighbors came over
Speaker 2: to the house. He shows up and he says, Whitley,
Speaker 2: I saw that happen, and I nearly dropped my teeth.
Speaker 2: He was a retired state trooper. He said we were
Speaker 2: driving home about two o'clock in the morning on that night,
Speaker 2: and he said, I saw what I thought was the
Speaker 2: Goodyear blimp in a field.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 2: I stopped because I thought that us be in trouble
Speaker 2: or it wouldn't be there in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Got out of the car, struggling through the snow, going
Speaker 2: toward it to try to help them. It was obvious
Speaker 2: to him something's wrong. As he moved toward it, he
Speaker 2: heard screaming, and he began to move faster. In his
Speaker 2: mind it was a blip that had gone down and
Speaker 2: people in it were screaming, so he needed to get
Speaker 2: there to help him. Then lights turned on all over
Speaker 2: it started making a growling noise and coming toward him.
Speaker 2: Very quickly panicked, jumped back into his car and drove off.
Speaker 2: He said to me, I'm just so embarrassed, ashamed the
Speaker 2: fact that I ran. And I said to him, if
Speaker 2: you tried to help me, god knows what would have
Speaker 2: happen to you. Then I knew, I knew this had
Speaker 2: really happened. In my opinion, that was me in there then,
Speaker 2: So what he thinks too, It was the right time
Speaker 2: and the right night.
Speaker 3: Everything. Many people have read your book. You caught my attention.
Speaker 7: Okay, how often do these people visit you?
Speaker 6: I have been with them a couple of times. They're real,
Speaker 6: and I was not unconscious or in an altered state
Speaker 6: of mind. One night, this very peculiar event took place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were visiting.
Speaker 2: It was in May night in nineteen eighty nine. It
Speaker 2: was about eleven o'clock at night, and had just turned
Speaker 2: in and I was going to sleep. Were open because
Speaker 2: it was warm, and I heard crunching up gravel in
Speaker 2: the driveway. I thought, very bad news. It was clearly
Speaker 2: a vehicle of some kind. Plus they had no car
Speaker 2: lights on. I had a shotgun under the bed and
Speaker 2: a pistol in the door beside the bed, plus a
Speaker 2: bank of switches that could turn on floodlights.
Speaker 4: All around the house.
Speaker 2: As I became fully awake, I heard a man's voice say,
Speaker 2: condition red. I'm not talking about aliens now, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about people. I started to go for the lights. The
Speaker 2: man and woman standing in the doorway of the bed.
Speaker 2: They looked like people. I was scared to death. Alarm
Speaker 2: system was right beside the door of the bedroom. Led
Speaker 2: was still red. In other words, they hadn't breached the system,
Speaker 2: but they were still in the house.
Speaker 4: They had to have breached it.
Speaker 2: Somehow, because you can't get in the house without breaching it.
Speaker 2: Forget floodlights. I'm going for the Benelli Riot gun under
Speaker 2: the bed. The next thing I know, they pushed me
Speaker 2: over onto my right side. I can't move, can't see.
Speaker 2: I'm totally helpless, paralyzed. He's pushing the side of my
Speaker 2: head into the pillow again and again like that, and
Speaker 2: the woman's voice is talking very gently. A couple seconds later,
Speaker 2: there's a huge flash of light. I jump out of bed.
Speaker 2: I grabbed the pistol. I run through the house looking
Speaker 2: for a breach in the system. There's nothing. It's all intact.
Speaker 2: I think, is this a lucid dream or what happened?
Speaker 2: I go out to the garage. Alarm systems still intact.
Speaker 4: It's not tripped. So on damn, garage door is wide open,
Speaker 4: and that's not possible.
Speaker 2: The alarm system is still armed and the garage doors
Speaker 2: wide open. Sometimes you rationalize that, well, I called the
Speaker 2: alarm man, I said, something screwed up with the alarm system.
Speaker 2: My garage door is wide open. I'm looking at it,
Speaker 2: and the system's not tripped. He comes over his gus
Speaker 2: meter finds this incredibly powerful magnetic field on the garage
Speaker 2: door that we have no explanation for whatsoever. It's not
Speaker 2: his switches, it's just there magnetic field so powerful that
Speaker 2: the door was wide open and the switsch hadn't been tripped.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about dreams or sleep paralysis. We're talking
Speaker 1: about a locked house, a homeowner with a firearm, an
Speaker 1: alarm system that never trips, and people, not aliens or ghosts,
Speaker 1: but other people inside his home. When he says, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about aliens now, it almost becomes more confusing,
Speaker 1: and fear sounds different when it's human.
Speaker 4: A few days past and my ear begins to hurt.
Speaker 1: His ear would turn red and he felt this little
Speaker 1: bump inside it. The doctor says, it's a cyst. My
Speaker 1: ear would turn red. I touched this and I feel
Speaker 1: a bump.
Speaker 2: My ear would turn red, and I'd hear this noise.
Speaker 2: About three or four years later, we moved down to Texas,
Speaker 2: my home down of San Antonio. Having dinner with some friends.
Speaker 2: One of them was a doctor, and I mentioned my ear.
Speaker 2: He feels it, and he said, it feels like a
Speaker 2: little sister to me. I can pop it out at
Speaker 2: my office. Come over tomorrow morning. We go to his
Speaker 2: office and we videotape the whole thing. This is what happened.
Speaker 1: I didn't take an incision around there.
Speaker 2: Again, he opens an incision, he sees a white disc.
Speaker 1: But this little laugh Whitley did in fact film this.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's the best quality ever, but it
Speaker 1: looks like he's actually at the doctor.
Speaker 4: When he touches it with his scalpel.
Speaker 3: It moved on its own, but it goes.
Speaker 8: I guess it went on under.
Speaker 9: But that's the heart.
Speaker 7: Aren't just say again?
Speaker 4: Waves actually now, well he's talking it, but it went under.
Speaker 1: I mean I got I got a loopis there's some here?
Speaker 4: It goes under the skin down into my ear.
Speaker 10: Lobe, like a little tiny white disc.
Speaker 3: It's all in the video.
Speaker 4: It's there.
Speaker 2: He got a little corner of it with the scalpel.
Speaker 2: Can see the doctor looking at it and describing it
Speaker 2: and seeing it move on its own. The implant is real.
Speaker 2: He puts in a stitch and I go home. The
Speaker 2: morning after that, my ear starts burning things in my
Speaker 2: ear lobe. I can feel it, and it moves back
Speaker 2: up here where it.
Speaker 3: Is to this day. It's still there right now, right now?
Speaker 3: Can you see it. You can see it. You can
Speaker 3: feel it.
Speaker 2: No, you can feel it's right here, right under my
Speaker 2: head right now.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yoh.
Speaker 2: Lab technician calls him and says, is this a practical joke?
Speaker 2: He says, no, it came out of a patient's ear.
Speaker 2: DAB tech said, this is a piece of biomechanical technology.
Speaker 2: This is a piece of metal that has cilia on it,
Speaker 2: and they're motile, they move.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Cillia are little hair like things that enabled something to move.
Speaker 2: That's how it moved down into my ear lobe. Something
Speaker 2: has physically happened to me, like in an interview like
Speaker 2: this half an hour ago.
Speaker 3: It turned on.
Speaker 1: What do you mean.
Speaker 2: You've been talking to it ever since? It's working now
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: The whole thing seems like a fever dream. Is Whitley
Speaker 1: just going around life further narrating its fiction, making up
Speaker 1: stories and writing books about it? Maybe did these things
Speaker 1: actually happen to him? And if they didn't, does he
Speaker 1: still believe they did? And what does that mean exactly?
Speaker 1: I'll admit I've gone back and forth a lot. I
Speaker 1: come from true crime. I'm used to looking for some
Speaker 1: universal truth, a verdict yes or no. True or false,
Speaker 1: no gray area. The thing is, you don't have to
Speaker 1: believe Whitley Straeber for this story to matter, because stories
Speaker 1: like his exist everywhere.
Speaker 8: The first thing I like to dispel is a frequent
Speaker 8: misconception that UFOs all limited to this country. Very often
Speaker 8: people ask me, how come I never hear about UFOs
Speaker 8: in other parts of the world. How can we only
Speaker 8: hear about UFOs in America. Well, UFOs now not in
Speaker 8: American phenomenon. They are a worldwide phenomenon. That's one of
Speaker 8: their most dramatic characteristics.
Speaker 1: People all across the world describing counters with the same shapes,
Speaker 1: the same paralysis, the same missing time, the same physical effects,
Speaker 1: different languages, different belief systems, all the same information. And
Speaker 1: when something repeats itself like that across borders, across generations,
Speaker 1: across technology gaps, it stops being like folklore and becomes
Speaker 1: more like a data set.
Speaker 9: It is very international. It's a global phenomenon.
Speaker 1: UFOs are not an American problem. They never were. They're
Speaker 1: reported by pilots in South America, tracked on radar in Europe,
Speaker 1: documented by militaries in Asia, whispered about in places that
Speaker 1: don't benefit from telling the story at all. The phenomenon
Speaker 1: itself is global. Nick Cook has spent in his career
Speaker 1: in investigating classified aircraft programs.
Speaker 9: Having investigated classified aircraft programs, the Calvine picture, it's like
Speaker 9: no plane I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: The Calvine photo. In nineteen ninety two men were hiking
Speaker 1: near Calvine, Scotland, and took a series of photographs. What
Speaker 1: they captured would later be called the clearest UFO image
Speaker 1: ever recorded.
Speaker 9: The Calvine photo shows a source of diamond shaped craft
Speaker 9: hovering in Scotland. Quite a remote area near Calvine.
Speaker 11: This little corner of central Scotland has become the center
Speaker 11: of activity.
Speaker 1: It's what's known as a hotspot, an.
Speaker 9: Area I where have people claimed to have seen unidentified
Speaker 9: flying objects. The Calvine photograph, which some people have touted
Speaker 9: the world's best photograph of a UFO, it's quite clear.
Speaker 4: This photograph could be real.
Speaker 9: This good circums actual evidence that says that could be
Speaker 9: a genuine UFO.
Speaker 1: Since you're only hearing this, if you want to see
Speaker 1: the photo yourself, go to the high Strange Instagram. It's
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Speaker 9: The problem with it is its provenance. Whoever took the
Speaker 9: photograph disappeared off the face of the earth. No one
Speaker 9: has been able to find the individuals who actually took
Speaker 9: the photograph, if.
Speaker 1: They ever existed. There was a diamond shaped craft, stationery,
Speaker 1: structured silent, and if this story wasn't strange enough, the
Speaker 1: people who took these photos have never been found.
Speaker 5: One of the early investigators of the case, Royal Air
Speaker 5: Force press officer Craig Lindsay, kept one print.
Speaker 9: Its surfaced later a Ministry of Defense produced another photograph.
Speaker 9: There was some kind of trail to this thing.
Speaker 7: The story was killed under circumstances which remain murky to
Speaker 7: this day.
Speaker 1: This is Nick Pope. For years, his job title at
Speaker 1: the UK Ministry of Defense was literally one word.
Speaker 7: The Ministry of Defense telephone directory was about two inches thick.
Speaker 7: There were very detailed job descriptions, something like coordinating Officer
Speaker 7: for updating NATO war books, deep specialist stuff. But with
Speaker 7: regard to my job, it just literally said UFOs. So
Speaker 7: it was a little bit of a question mark. Having
Speaker 7: seen all six images and having seen the intelligence community analysis,
Speaker 7: we all concluded this was a real solid, structured craft
Speaker 7: about seventy five feet a grass and we have no
Speaker 7: idea what it is how it even flies. This is
Speaker 7: pretty extraordinary stuff. Not all of the UFO sightings that
Speaker 7: we get are going to be where the balloons or
Speaker 7: the planet venus.
Speaker 9: What I always like to do is look around in
Speaker 9: a sort of geopolitical sense as to what's happening at
Speaker 9: the time.
Speaker 1: Nick Cook isn't a UFO investigator. He's an aviation journalist
Speaker 1: who spent years embedded in classified aircraft programs. Part of
Speaker 1: the whole UFO debate is whether some of these things
Speaker 1: people are seeing are actually ours new technology, secret technology.
Speaker 4: Suspicious thing about it.
Speaker 9: The Calvine photo was snapped on the eve of Sadam
Speaker 9: Hussein's invasion of Kuwait.
Speaker 11: Iraq invades Kuwait and overthrows its government. Iraq's president, Sadam
Speaker 11: Hussein warned that he would turn Kuwait into a graveyard
Speaker 11: if any foreign country tried to intervene.
Speaker 9: I was covering a lot of classified US craft programs,
Speaker 9: like the Stealth Fighter, which had been developed in secret
Speaker 9: during the nineteen eighties. There was another mythical beast called Aurora.
Speaker 9: An Aurora was reputed to have gone really fast, five
Speaker 9: times the speed of sound, maybe six mythical because there
Speaker 9: were sightings of it, but never anything officially revealed or admitted.
Speaker 9: But there was plenty of technological evidence that this thing
Speaker 9: was built in the black in secret.
Speaker 1: Nick Cook had seen stealth programs years before they were public.
Speaker 1: He understood sometimes secret tech can hide in plain sight.
Speaker 1: Does this explain the Calvine photo.
Speaker 9: Aurora just happened that one of its operating bases was
Speaker 9: on Scottish airfield called Macrahannish, which is not a million
Speaker 9: miles from Calvine. Late eighties, early nineties. A good deal
Speaker 9: of those pro have not seen the light of day.
Speaker 9: I went to interview the boss of the Locked Martin
Speaker 9: skunk Works. I sat down and we started talking about
Speaker 9: all the aircraft programs he'd worked on, and he said,
Speaker 9: I've worked on fifteen real flying aircraft programs while I've
Speaker 9: been here, but I can only talk about twelve of them.
Speaker 9: Locked Martin Skunk Works. Their mantra was, if you can
Speaker 9: imagine it, we can make it happen. Whatever you dream
Speaker 9: up we can do. Where money meets imagination, you get
Speaker 9: the most phenomenal innovation breakthroughs now talking of the Aurora
Speaker 9: in the late nineties. I then interviews the head of
Speaker 9: US Air Force Research and Development programs. A guy called
Speaker 9: General George Mulner on the day he retired. On the
Speaker 9: record in that interview was black programs, secret stuff. Here
Speaker 9: we were able to talk about secret programs. I could
Speaker 9: ask him anything I wanted. It was like, finally here
Speaker 9: we go. I said to him, so, let's talk about
Speaker 9: whether you might have commissioned a Mark five plus hypersonic
Speaker 9: s byplane. And he said, let me tell you a story.
Speaker 9: So he goes, what would you do if you were me?
Speaker 9: We have a Mark three reconnaissance aircraft in the Blackbird that.
Speaker 4: We are retiring.
Speaker 9: We have a new generation of spy satellites able to
Speaker 9: deliver real time reconnaissance digitally, which is a first. But
Speaker 9: those satellites aren't quite ready yet. So we have a gap.
Speaker 9: What would you do? So I said, well, I'd probably
Speaker 9: fill it with an interim capability, something that's just going
Speaker 9: to do the trick in the short term.
Speaker 4: So it goes go figure.
Speaker 9: My inference from his statement is that a few prototypes
Speaker 9: of this aircraft were built. It filled the gap, and
Speaker 9: then they got rid of it. If you wanted to
Speaker 9: put reconnaissance on the ground very quickly. Around about the
Speaker 9: time Saddam Hussein was invading Kuwait, you might want to
Speaker 9: send a very fast spyplane to take reconnaissance imagery. You
Speaker 9: had an air base very close to Calvin in Macrahannish
Speaker 9: where a lot of spooky things were going on. As
Speaker 9: a result of the invasion of Kuwait, the.
Speaker 11: United States has put six warships in the Gulf on
Speaker 11: high alert and another six are on their way.
Speaker 9: The crisis has found the Prime Minister with President Bush
Speaker 9: to coordinate the British and American responses. You might just
Speaker 9: want to divert attention away from that with some strange
Speaker 9: speculation about a UFO which then subsequently appeared. There are
Speaker 9: a lot of red flags in it.
Speaker 1: For me, here's the problem with Colbine. The photo exists.
Speaker 1: It's a real physical photograph. All the analyzes exist. There's
Speaker 1: no debate on whether the photo itself is real.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: But what are we looking at and why is there
Speaker 1: a big mystery behind who took these? Are we still
Speaker 1: learning things or are we just at a point where
Speaker 1: it's sweet.
Speaker 9: Here's the whole thing about the UFO world, the very
Speaker 9: confusion about it. The whole thing is a wonderful distraction.
Speaker 9: If you're in the military and you want to hide things,
Speaker 9: break through secret stuff that might have happened in the
Speaker 9: US military. Well, let's put some real noise, disinformation noise
Speaker 9: around places where we want to keep things secret, Strange
Speaker 9: anomalous photographs that cover up the fact you're flying spyplanes
Speaker 9: that are secret. Still UFOs present a brilliant smoke screen.
Speaker 1: Everything becomes mixed.
Speaker 9: Up in a great miasma of real information and crap,
Speaker 9: and in the end it's very hard.
Speaker 1: To work out what is truth and what is fiction.
Speaker 9: And that suits a lot of people in the intelligence world.
Speaker 9: There's too much evidence from too many different directions, much
Speaker 9: of which converges on the same data sets, to say
Speaker 9: that everybody is making this stuff up. What you're beginning
Speaker 9: to get now is the military and intelligence world saying
Speaker 9: there is a phenomenon here. In twenty twenty one, Director
Speaker 9: of National Intelligence published a report saying exactly that the
Speaker 9: phenomenon is real, and that was the first time an
Speaker 9: official body had admitted this was a thing.
Speaker 1: What, of course, they.
Speaker 9: Didn't say, because they professed not to know, was what
Speaker 9: was causing it. Are they extraterrestrials? Are they coming from
Speaker 9: out of space? Psychological people hallucinating stuff, or is this
Speaker 9: a middle ground that is worth investigating. Maybe they're interdimensional,
Speaker 9: it's some glitch in reality that is letting stuff through
Speaker 9: that we don't understand. I'm more inclined to look at that.
Speaker 1: This, to me, is the unsettling part. Even if Calvin
Speaker 1: was secret human technology, that explanation alone doesn't close the case.
Speaker 1: It opens one more because the same shapes, the same movements,
Speaker 1: the same witness reactions. They show up long before nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety and long after.
Speaker 9: Weird shit comes with a UFO sighting, poltergeists phenomena in
Speaker 9: their bedrooms at night, Bigfoot is seen in the backyard.
Speaker 9: All of this weird shit comes with it. If I'm
Speaker 9: inclined to look into what may be causing UFO sightings
Speaker 9: and experiences, consciousness is a really good.
Speaker 1: Place to start.
Speaker 9: How do we perceive reality? If you flip the aperture
Speaker 9: a bit, let's look at the nature of reality. Let's
Speaker 9: see if we can find out whether there are anomalies
Speaker 9: in the way we perceive reality which may explain paranormal
Speaker 9: phenomena like UFOs.
Speaker 1: Most of us walk around assuming reality is just what's
Speaker 1: in front of us, what we can see what we
Speaker 1: can touch, what everyone else seems to agree is actually happening.
Speaker 1: But the older I get, the more obvious it becomes
Speaker 1: that reality is not a fixed thing.
Speaker 4: It's an experience.
Speaker 1: You can be in the same room as someone, hear
Speaker 1: the same words, watch the same moment unfold, and walk
Speaker 1: away with a completely different understanding of what just happened,
Speaker 1: not because one of you is lying, but because perception
Speaker 1: isn't neutral. What if multiple truths could exist. Your brain
Speaker 1: is constantly filtering, filling in gaps, making assumptions, protecting you
Speaker 1: so you can function without being overwhelmed. That's consciousness at work,
Speaker 1: not as some mystical concept, but as a practical system.
Speaker 1: It's how you survive the day. But here's the part
Speaker 1: that messes with me. If your experience of reality depends
Speaker 1: on what you notice, what you expect, and what you ignore,
Speaker 1: then two people can live in entirely different worlds without
Speaker 1: ever leaving the same place. And once you realize that,
Speaker 1: lots of things start to click, and why arguments go nowhere,
Speaker 1: why certainty feels comforting, and why new ideas feel threatening
Speaker 1: before they feel interesting. It also explains why encounters with
Speaker 1: the unknown are so destabilizing because they don't just challenge
Speaker 1: what you believe, they challenge how you know anything at all.
Speaker 1: When it comes to consciousness. Even our smartest scientists are
Speaker 1: still guessing. We can explain what the brain does, but
Speaker 1: not why it feels like being you. So every now
Speaker 1: and then I try to check myself. Maybe my version
Speaker 1: of reality isn't the only one operating here, realizing that
Speaker 1: two people can be honest, vulnerable, and trying at the
Speaker 1: same time, but still be living in slightly different realities
Speaker 1: the same room, same words, same intention, but filtered through
Speaker 1: different histories, fears, and expectations, not because anyone failed, because
Speaker 1: consciousness does not always line up on the same frequency.
Speaker 7: The Ministry of Defense standard line we dish out to
Speaker 7: the media and the public on this was that this
Speaker 7: subject was of no real interest. It was always downplaying.
Speaker 7: We just glance at these reports. There's nothing of any
Speaker 7: particular defense significance, but we take a look just in case.
Speaker 7: But the reality, of course, was quite different. Things that
Speaker 7: I had access to in that job was the archive.
Speaker 7: We'd looked at this phenomenon since nineteen fifty three. We'd
Speaker 7: had a permanent research effort on it since nineteen fifty three,
Speaker 7: but reports went back further than that. We had a
Speaker 7: huge archive, hundreds and hundreds of sightings from different locations
Speaker 7: around the UK. Ninety ninety five, maybe ninety nine percent
Speaker 7: of all of this is going to turn out to
Speaker 7: be misidentification, censor error or hoax, something fairly mundane. But
Speaker 7: don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, because there's
Speaker 7: something here. These things sit in the files must like
Speaker 7: an unsolved crime in a police file.
Speaker 9: The whole plethora of UFO sightings that are out there,
Speaker 9: a lot of it is born out of witness testimony.
Speaker 9: The sightings that people are reporting today are not that
Speaker 9: different from sightings they were reporting fifty or sixty years ago.
Speaker 7: One of those cases in the Ministry Defense file that
Speaker 7: doesn't have a definitive explanation to it. A whole class
Speaker 7: of school children seeing something.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy seven in the small Welsh village of
Speaker 1: Broad Heaven. Something landed, not once, not briefly, multiple sightings
Speaker 1: in daylight. Sixteen school children, a teacher, no prompting, no
Speaker 1: group discussion, and they all drew the same thing. This
Speaker 1: is one of those stories that feels like it's right
Speaker 1: out of a movie. Because kids don't gain status from ridicule.
Speaker 1: They didn't have TikTok back then. Kids don't protect reputations,
Speaker 1: they don't know what to fake. Yet in all these
Speaker 1: kids describe seeing the same thing. One of those kids
Speaker 1: has never stopped thinking about that day. His name is
Speaker 1: Dave Davies, and I flew all the way across the
Speaker 1: pond to try and track him down.
Speaker 3: Yes, is that good? Right? Take me all the way back.
Speaker 10: I mean, this is the thing that's been going around
Speaker 10: my head for fifty years. My intent that afternoon was
Speaker 10: to try and prove that there wasn't anything there. I failed.
Speaker 10: I've known skeptics who try and rationally way out of
Speaker 10: it as much as they can, But I don't think
Speaker 10: I haven't done that. If there was a convention explanation
Speaker 10: for what I saw that day, I'd have already gone
Speaker 10: fair enough, that's it then. But there is no other
Speaker 10: explanation for what we saw that day. I've spent nearly
Speaker 10: fifty years, countless books, any sort of reference material. I've
Speaker 10: always pretty much shared. This is proof that I'm not lying.
Speaker 10: I wouldn't have wasted all my money and time on
Speaker 10: all this crap on the surface of it. You just
Speaker 10: say air flying sources, whatever. But the more you look
Speaker 10: at it, there is a trickster things sort of going on.
Speaker 10: There's a lack of logic to what they're doing sometimes
Speaker 10: and you just think it's completely mad. But it was
Speaker 10: just the sudden realization that I've got something in front
Speaker 10: of me that shouldn't exist, but does. I went through
Speaker 10: the school as being the kid who saw the space ship.
Speaker 12: A claim that something strange came out of the skies
Speaker 12: and landed in the Welsh village of broad Haven.
Speaker 10: I stepped over the primitive fence and as I got
Speaker 10: one foot over, it literally rose up from behind trees.
Speaker 12: Whatever it was was spotted three times by children from
Speaker 12: the local school.
Speaker 10: What we saw was definitely physical that was beyond our understanding.
Speaker 12: The children say the object had a large dome cigar shaped,
Speaker 12: silver in color. I've just been on the phone to
Speaker 12: their headmaster.
Speaker 3: I know that the sixteen children saw it.
Speaker 11: Suddenly, the silver cigar shaped object seem to pop up
Speaker 11: from behind the bushes.
Speaker 3: How clearly did you see it? Well, I couldn't see
Speaker 3: its face.
Speaker 7: How you say you saw a man as well?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 10: Yes, there was a thought in my brain I should leave.
Speaker 9: Were you frightened at the time, Yes, and that's where
Speaker 9: the weirdness starts.
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