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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home, y'all, Welcome home.

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Speaker 4: We created this show to create a safe space, and

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Speaker 4: that's so important as we navigate this political landscape, but

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Speaker 4: also our personal landscape as well. So this is why

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Speaker 4: we say welcome home at the beginning of every show

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Speaker 4: and at the end of every show. We want you

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Speaker 4: all to fill welcome Home.

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Speaker 3: So it's been fifty.

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Speaker 4: Nine an full episodes today sixty the mini pods. I

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Speaker 4: hope y'all are listening to those. They drop every Monday.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Maypod.

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Speaker 3: And we did our live shows.

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Speaker 4: So we did thirteen live shows, eight cities, Miami, New Orleans, Shytown,

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Speaker 4: Wise, I call y'all don't like me saying that though Detroit,

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Speaker 4: the atl Philadelphia, and.

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Speaker 3: There was some city I can't even remember it.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think, oh yeah, I wasn't starting to

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Speaker 4: throw Andrew anyway. But we began by telling our stories,

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Speaker 4: our truths. We began with testimony. So a lot of us,

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Speaker 4: you guys have seen all of us on the different networks.

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Speaker 4: We each can come from a different background and came

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Speaker 4: together here because we, like you, noticed a dearth of

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Speaker 4: voices and expertise that dishonored our truth. Still, so often

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Speaker 4: what people talk about on these networks centers the comfort

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Speaker 4: of white people, not just white people, but conservative white people.

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Speaker 4: So we wanted to create a space for everyone where

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Speaker 4: we could censor our lived experience.

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Speaker 3: And it's really been a delight to go through all this.

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Speaker 4: We talked about the outgoing administration, we shuddered it. Speaking

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Speaker 4: about the incoming administration, we caught a lot of flak

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Speaker 4: from folks, and listen, that's a part of it. Some

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Speaker 4: of y'all disagree with us, and you waited and told

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Speaker 4: us as much. But we also got some of y'all's

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Speaker 4: in from our a man corner, which we greatly appreciate.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 4: Angela likes to say that she and I gotten our

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Speaker 4: first fight, but I have to tell y'all it's our second.

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Speaker 1: What was the first one?

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Speaker 3: About the guy?

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Speaker 4: I have to remind you that all the time when

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Speaker 4: we were me and you and Sonny, we were.

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Speaker 3: At lunch, it says this raggedy there.

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Speaker 6: Was not a real argument.

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Speaker 4: I wanted you to come somewhere and you were like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not coming and you left.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I didn't like storm off.

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Speaker 4: I know you did it, but you were like escalated,

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Speaker 4: like and it don't matter. I was feeling protective of you.

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Speaker 4: I know that time I was mad at you. Well, okay,

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Speaker 4: I wish you were mad that time. It had come

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Speaker 4: with me.

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Speaker 3: Pulled me out, and he pulled me out.

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Speaker 4: A year of reflection of the mistakes we made, okay,

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Speaker 4: the mistakes that were made nameless.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, Andrew Tiff and I got into our first argument.

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Speaker 5: She said, it's our second, I said, our first of

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Speaker 5: our nearly twenty year friendship.

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Speaker 6: Andrew and I got in our two hundredth.

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Speaker 1: Did you know did you fight?

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Speaker 6: Andrewes, did y'all fight?

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Speaker 1: I didn't fight anybody? Okay, I just you know, stood

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Speaker 1: my ground well standard then right dangerous one Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the incoming president.

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Speaker 4: We went through all of its ninety one criminal charges,

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Speaker 4: and we talked about the bleach blonde.

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Speaker 3: Bad built state of our union.

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Speaker 4: We even got into the Kendrick Drake beef, which has

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: You could lose a rap beef so hard so many

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Speaker 4: times teams. Yes, but that's you're taking another l like

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Speaker 4: you still losing, like slim.

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Speaker 3: Just go home, back to your corner. That's how it works.

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Speaker 3: And then we're brody. What is it?

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Speaker 4: I just said, brody, Yeah, exactly exactly. We talked about

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Speaker 4: reparations to banning TikTok. We talked about legalizing weed, which

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Speaker 4: I know that's something that's important to you guys.

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Speaker 3: You guys anyway, well it was legal in my house.

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Speaker 4: So I liked our conversation on fatherhood, black fathers and

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Speaker 4: why they matter, but also all your listener questions, your comments,

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Speaker 4: we really appreciated. One of my favorite shows was the

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Speaker 4: that conference, and what made it so amazing were the

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a.

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Speaker 4: Carefully curated group of people who were insightful and leaders

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Speaker 4: the public sector. Our our good sister Jill Taika Edie,

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Speaker 3: We got into our own rat beefs at the d

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Speaker 4: No need to revisit that, but you can check out

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Speaker 3: Exactly we did.

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Speaker 4: This is Angela's baby. She just really wanted to do

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Speaker 4: the Congressional Black Caucus Foundations Annual Legislative Conference.

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Speaker 3: A lot of you guys.

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Speaker 4: Colloquially call it CBC week, but we were able to

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Speaker 4: broadcast live from there. That was the last time they

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Speaker 4: saw us in glam I think in this level of yeah,

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Speaker 5: We sorry, we deprived you exactly, wouldn't that be foss

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Speaker 5: just randomly do a black side show like for no reason,

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Speaker 5: like Yese lap are you could do a pocket square?

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Speaker 6: Was there? Roland got some feathers ones that looked like

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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about Roland Martin, of course, but.

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Speaker 6: Yes we are.

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Speaker 3: We having so crazy. We love Roroad saved us at

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Speaker 3: the DNC to.

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Speaker 6: Shout out, never let us forget it.

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 4: But one thing is for sure, speaking of Rolrod, because

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Speaker 4: he's a part of our community. There will be no

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Speaker 4: US without you. There will be no US without Community

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Speaker 4: Connection Coalition. We are as different as the zip codes

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Speaker 4: we live in, from the nation's capital to the Dirty

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Speaker 4: South to what angel will called the best coast, and

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Speaker 4: so yes and so and everything in between. We welcome

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Speaker 4: you all in this space. So we said goodbye to

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and as we usher in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: we invite you, our Native Lampod family, to journey with

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Speaker 4: us through our inaugural year, which would have meant nothing

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Speaker 3: We want to take a moment to thank you inaugural

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Speaker 1: The whole experience has been the one thing I didn't

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Speaker 1: want but badly needed. And it takes, upon reflection to

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Speaker 1: really consider that I could have stayed a hermit inside

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Speaker 1: my own space and been just fine. I think until

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Speaker 1: and Native Lampod I think did that for me And finality,

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Speaker 1: there would not have been a show without all of you.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't be what we needed to be. But for you,

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Speaker 1: including those of you who disagreed, in fact, in some ways,

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Speaker 1: especially those of you who disagreed on various perspectives, you

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Speaker 1: kept it you know, classy, You clipt it real in

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Speaker 1: was necessary and so for that, I just want to

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Speaker 1: extend heartfelt Native lampod thank you to every single one

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Speaker 1: of you who helped to own and create and continue

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Speaker 1: to populate this space. Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: So I want to thank iHeart Colonel Will and Carrie Connell,

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Speaker 4: Will and Carrie Colonel and I have a private inside

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Speaker 4: joke where I call him Colonel.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know about it, but he does. Thank you, Connell.

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Speaker 4: And thank you to the pod Father Chris Morrow and Leonard,

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Speaker 4: who you guys know as Charlemagne the God. To our

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Speaker 4: production team Lauren, Nick and Lolo, to our video production

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Speaker 4: team Mark, Ena and Dylan who have held us down

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Speaker 4: without our last minute request and traveling, So shout out

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Speaker 4: to you guys, our social media crew Camera, Anda and Chloe,

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Speaker 4: and well I.

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Speaker 1: Call her a and she doesn't know yet, but now

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Speaker 1: you do.

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Speaker 4: It's on my take on Strange because she's always so

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Speaker 4: fly and fash. But Ange our breakfast Club fam Uh

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Speaker 4: for collabing with the US, and all the guests and

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Speaker 4: and the places we had to go along the way,

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Speaker 4: all the friends we made along the way. So we

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Speaker 4: love you all, we thank you, and welcome home y'all.

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Speaker 5: All right, so we asked y'all to let us know

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Speaker 5: what your favorite episodes were from this last year. We

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Speaker 5: can't play them all today, but please make sure you

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Speaker 5: check out the episode description for the full list of

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Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, exhausting, fine, but.

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Speaker 5: A very very eventful year with this podcast. So let's

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Speaker 5: take a look at some of our best moments.

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Speaker 1: I went into the most republican part of Florida. I

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Speaker 1: went to the most Republican precinct in the entire country twice,

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Speaker 3: Don't spend no ad money it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense for me to walk right past them,

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Speaker 1: casting the dispersion that everybody who lives in that area

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Speaker 1: that's not what you're saying, Katie Well.

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Speaker 3: Now we are now all.

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Speaker 4: We've gotten agreements that note, Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: When we were in Atlanta and Kim Blackwell was talking

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Speaker 4: she said white women, we.

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Speaker 1: Were both like Andrew sympathizing Andrew.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like you need to talk to Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like she said it. I wasn't on

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Speaker 5: Are a lot of people they were in dragging both

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna stick by Katrina, as I said in that CLUBB.

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Speaker 7: Don't put me on the opposite side of Katrina at all.

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Speaker 1: I love Katrina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're surrounded.

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Speaker 4: I say, you went for office and you understood that

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Speaker 4: And honestly, I mean, it was a funny moment, but

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Speaker 4: I think that there are conversations to have around that.

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Speaker 6: Please talk to each other.

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Speaker 5: Show you.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what we.

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Speaker 5: I love you, but just know that this is paid

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Speaker 5: I forgive people, and I can love you from a distance,

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Speaker 5: Shout out girl, post the picture and see the comments,

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Speaker 5: because I will never forget you're doing that. Andrew was

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Speaker 1: No forget it, no, but I would know your co

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Speaker 6: Minutes over time because we want to hear you.

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Speaker 1: I know we're not going over time. This will be simple.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Finished shining off.

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Speaker 4: First of all, Andrew, ain't nobody jealous, But is the

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Speaker 3: I want you.

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Speaker 4: I want you part of my epigraph. Okay, I'm going

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Speaker 4: to remember, but ever, every trader who stood out here

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Speaker 6: Said down every nichell bow.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Anne of that was known to me. I

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Speaker 3: The middle of making a point, so I apologize.

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Speaker 1: It's all good.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 6: He's like, poor girl.

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Speaker 3: There's no time girls.

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Speaker 4: I told y'all, I've been ready, and Peaches and her

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Speaker 5: Also, what about TIFF's new favorite holiday Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my favorite hometown.

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Speaker 3: Today we're not going to work in augusta hotel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife's hometownd Montgomery.

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Speaker 6: What's that?

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Speaker 3: God actual.

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Speaker 4: Oppressed that happy one year anniversary? You guys one year

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Speaker 1: Collective.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a collective impact, and I really think

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Speaker 4: if I don't know you. If I see something going down,

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Speaker 4: I'm coming over my phone ready to hear what happened

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Speaker 3: Okay? Over here?

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Speaker 4: I think people have to know because you only see

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Speaker 3: Then it's real gully.

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Speaker 4: But if they know, I can't go over here and

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Speaker 1: They're worthy.

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Speaker 4: It was worthy, some of those voiceovers. I still, I still.

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Speaker 4: I hope y'all want to take a little time and

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Speaker 3: Work on August fifth?

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Speaker 4: But can we declare now just for our viewer, so

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Speaker 3: Do we work on August? I say no, I think

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Speaker 4: Ain't no way still if you're not deported this as well,

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Speaker 6: He's trying to take us back to dred Scott.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I'm declaring here. August fifth is a

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Speaker 6: Powers Invested in Her.

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Speaker 4: Which is an official part of the executive branches of government.

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Speaker 3: Now things are agency, the.

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Speaker 4: They never send the not you know, one of our

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Speaker 4: August fifth is a national holiday.

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Speaker 3: Happy August teenth to you.

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Speaker 1: Is our man.

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Speaker 6: You have to call in sick, It's okay, it's still holiday.

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Speaker 1: Happens, yes, and we will.

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Speaker 4: We will record a message for you on that day,

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Speaker 6: This is for real.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even being silly. I want to shout out

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Speaker 4: And I think if y'all didn't get this message before,

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Speaker 3: You they have to start to understand.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to know you. If I see you

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Speaker 4: I'm coming over to see what happened, because you ain't

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Speaker 5: Talking to us speaking of coming to see what happened.

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Speaker 5: Remember when Tiff has something to say about community peen,

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Speaker 3: Is he here? Like what's happening? And so she says,

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Speaker 3: And we're all like, okay. And also these people look

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Speaker 4: So the girl comes out and she's now like in

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Speaker 3: Okay, And she proceeds to then give us a life instruction.

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Speaker 4: Was verbally talking through it and perform me okay, but

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Speaker 6: Because not now I am okay.

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Speaker 3: I want you to know, before.

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Speaker 4: Before I told this story, I gave them a previous

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Speaker 4: I really don't appreciate telling this story. If you're talking

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Speaker 4: about a cat and angel talking about communion.

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Speaker 5: We okay, you were saying that this was something happened

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Speaker 5: at an event and it was gonna be like heard

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Speaker 5: on the hill kind of scooped.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know that we was gonna be dropped into

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Speaker 6: a to be porno.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know what?

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Speaker 1: That was fine? I felt really g rated after giving

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Speaker 1: our story talking about church and I'm talking about churches.

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Speaker 1: Schizophrenic cat do I said, schizo, not saphantic.

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Speaker 6: It's okay either way.

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Speaker 5: Either way, Tiff had the nerve to be mortified after

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Speaker 5: noting everything that.

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Speaker 1: Was.

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Speaker 6: That was a lot I gave y'all all the kid

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Speaker 6: probably know how.

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Speaker 1: Surprise, but your honesty, thank you. It was frigging nuts

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Speaker 1: blugging crazy.

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Speaker 5: Well, but there's another there's another, you know, risk side

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Speaker 5: of tip for those who don't indulge be dark. We

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Speaker 5: had know we had an episode about we the people,

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Speaker 5: and since she says that marijuana is legalized in High

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Speaker 5: House and we don't run this two.

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Speaker 1: But tell us where do you stand as we approach

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Speaker 1: for twenty?

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Speaker 4: Well this may shock you, oh, legalization of marijuana. Listen,

477
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Speaker 4: if you're watching this on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Every time you're watching this.

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Speaker 4: This Saturday, happy for twenty to you. Saturday is the

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Speaker 4: day that weed smokers unite, I would say in one

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Speaker 4: big puff puff path communion. But before you celebrate that

482
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Speaker 4: sticky iky, I think it's important that you.

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Speaker 3: Know before.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually I'm actually curious how this administration will handle

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Speaker 4: the legalization of marijuana.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was for it in Florida.

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Speaker 4: A lot of his voters like that. That is an

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Speaker 4: issue that is not partisan. It transcends every economics, socio economy.

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Speaker 1: A federal level is still where even though during the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration we saw some classification reduction of the significance,

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Speaker 1: still federally you can't have commerce in federal banks.

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Speaker 3: They put state governments at odd with the federal government.

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Speaker 1: Individuals, we're traveling and we're trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: the law is in every particular place and so forth.

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Speaker 1: You know that DNC thing went off because you know.

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Speaker 3: When our friend came through ye, we thought we was

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Speaker 3: in a.

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Speaker 1: State proper federal yes, yeah, and we're all in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I hope that they changed that though, because for Republican Party,

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Speaker 4: especially who purports to be in favor of small government

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Speaker 4: and who purports to support state rights, well, this is

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Speaker 4: one where you can merge the two and say, you

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Speaker 4: know what, let's just make it legal. So stay tuned,

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Speaker 4: we'll see.

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Speaker 5: And then what about when Tiff was the resident sports

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Speaker 5: expert and I had to ask her, where where did

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Speaker 5: Brett Favre play?

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Speaker 1: Tiff?

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Speaker 6: I love you, I want to talk about Brett Favre. Tiff.

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Speaker 5: I know you're a resident sports experts, so you know

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Speaker 5: what NFL team this man Wents played for.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me just.

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Speaker 4: Say I was reading the Times and they did a

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Speaker 4: whole article on it, so I know that he played

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Speaker 4: for the Tennessee To type, oh right now.

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Speaker 3: About green Bank? I could how about green Back?

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Speaker 5: What we were just trying to demonstrate for you all

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Speaker 5: is how easy it is for people in influential positions

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Speaker 5: who cover the media to be also swayed by misinformation.

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Speaker 6: That was just an exercise. Do not try this at

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Speaker 6: home and scene.

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Speaker 5: You google it later, but our resident sports expert does

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Speaker 5: know down on the inside.

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Speaker 3: That's how you need to know. That's all y'all need

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Speaker 3: to know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so where are we going from here? You guys,

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Speaker 5: you guys want to go to emotional or intense lol, emotion.

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Speaker 4: Or Something that we played that I had a serious

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Speaker 4: challenge with was the clip from of the Black Peace people.

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Speaker 3: Talking about voting for track people Trump Bider? Why you

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Speaker 3: say that the business man he's gonna think and Biden

534
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Speaker 3: is a racist?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think has done more for the black community? Trump? Bider.

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Speaker 1: I ain't even see Biden yet.

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Speaker 4: I know Trump was out, he was at bro he

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Speaker 4: was God.

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Speaker 8: That's why he fuilt has Wall Michael being everything. And

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Speaker 8: you know we've been here for all the time and

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Speaker 8: can't get a free Hamburger and they come here get

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Speaker 8: all the ship. And I'm saying, so that's why I say, yeah, Biden,

543
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Speaker 8: he ain't doing he shit. So but Trump, I would

544
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Speaker 8: feel that he will be the better person to get

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Speaker 8: in Biden.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what my challenge was as a journalist,

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Speaker 4: have to remind myself we're not in the newsroom. And

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Speaker 4: what I was saying is like we hadn't independently verified

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Speaker 4: this footage and Fox you know it is not a

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Speaker 4: trusted source.

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Speaker 1: And when we played it in the show, you and

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Speaker 1: I had an immediate action that show.

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Speaker 3: Oh you want to show that? What I'm saying, yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's let's take a look at that. Now this reminded people.

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Speaker 4: I don't think honestly, I don't think we should play

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Speaker 4: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think any of I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I wouldn't I didn't know that.

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Speaker 6: I want I want to play some of it.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to play what part because it's

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Speaker 1: a whole commercial ridiculous because it sounds like propaganda.

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Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred, But then you were pushing back in

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Speaker 4: roal time, so I don't remember. The compromise was we

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Speaker 4: played a tiny bit. We cut it down significantly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think in reflection for me, I see

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Speaker 1: more now post the election, the value of of hearing

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Speaker 1: just the what felt like ludicrosity. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's a word. I'm making it up, but it felt ludicrous,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the time, and I knew there were

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Speaker 1: elements of sentiment. I just wasn't prepared to buy what

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Speaker 1: I had seen in that video. And the truth is

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Speaker 1: is I think that probably was a sentiment, if not

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Speaker 1: to that extreme versions of it that replayed itself all

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Speaker 1: throughout the cycle that culminated and obviously what we saw

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Speaker 1: in the elections outcome.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's what we saw in the

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Speaker 4: elections outcome yet, but I think for me, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: that the idea that these people may not exist. It

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Speaker 4: was we don't know who these people are. It is

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Speaker 4: a random collection. There is no follow up. We don't

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Speaker 4: know are you a registered voter? Where did this footage

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Speaker 4: come from?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 4: Who are these people? So it wasn't necessarily like, no,

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Speaker 4: it's not true. We shouldn't acknowledge their people out there.

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Speaker 4: It is before we platform something, we have to it's

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Speaker 4: responsible to verify who are these people, where.

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Speaker 3: Did it come from.

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Speaker 4: We've seen networks get caught out there in that, which

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Speaker 4: I think has led to the erosion of public trust

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Speaker 4: in media, where they do these panels of independent voters

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Speaker 4: and then you find out, oh, but this person is

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Speaker 4: a Trump organizer. We didn't know if these people were paid.

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Speaker 3: Anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So I would have like the conversation we had in

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Speaker 4: Atlanta where we ask, and we're hearing from you right

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Speaker 4: in our face directly, we can ask follow up questions, well,

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Speaker 4: how do you feel?

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't the issue of shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: We being shared?

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Speaker 3: Right? It was is this the appropriate way?

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Speaker 6: When?

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Speaker 4: I don't know where this even came from, But I

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Speaker 4: think the bigger debate that a lot of people might have,

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Speaker 4: which I think you and I've had on and off air,

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Speaker 4: should we be talking to those people? I've never felt

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Speaker 4: like we shouldn't be. I've always said I shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: That's not a valuable way for me to spend my time.

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Speaker 4: I think you have more tolerance to talk to people

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Speaker 4: who may feel that way, and I can be a

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Speaker 4: bit like, yeah, I don't really even like if you

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Speaker 4: don't care enough this whole question about what Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: that would do with black people, and you ain't even

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Speaker 4: care enough to google that shit before you ask something

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Speaker 4: that done.

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Speaker 1: That's not the same her opponent the same question.

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Speaker 4: Precisely, precisely so for me, that's not my ministry to

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Speaker 4: do that. You know it isn't, But I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: that ministry shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Exist for me.

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Speaker 5: I saw that sentiment so much and I remember in

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen feeling there, and I've talked about it the show,

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Speaker 5: very cocky, very Hillary gone, you know, Molly wopped his hole,

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Speaker 5: like not thinking at all that it was going to

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Speaker 5: be a contest. And so this time, because remember that

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Speaker 5: episode aired when Joe Biden was still in the race,

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Speaker 5: it was feeling very much like it was going in

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Speaker 5: the direction of twenty sixteen. To me, it did not

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Speaker 5: feel like twenty twenty. So I'm like, here are the

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Speaker 5: things that I'm hearing from the randos in my family.

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Speaker 5: My god brother was talking about supporting Trump until they

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Speaker 5: came after his godsister. So I was hearing this stuff

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Speaker 5: and I ain't give it Dan where it came from.

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Speaker 5: I was hearing that so consistently, not as much as

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Speaker 5: it got when we got closer to after Kamala was

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Speaker 5: leading the ticket. Then I'm like, how are you staying

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Speaker 5: Black people still supporting this? To like, you got your

637
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Speaker 5: sister and they was like, hey, my sister.

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Speaker 6: So I'm like, I'm so confused about this. But I

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Speaker 6: wanted to be I didn't want to be open to.

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Speaker 5: The perspective so that it persuaded me, but I wanted

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Speaker 5: to be be sensitive, sensitive enough to hear it, because

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Speaker 5: I wasn't at all in sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So that was And I think that's the question.

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Speaker 4: Be curious if if you're curious about it for yourself,

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: It's a different bucket than I'm going to platform this,

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Speaker 4: you know, And.

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Speaker 1: I think we had to think that video. I do

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Speaker 1: think we had to platform the perspective. That's because I

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Speaker 1: think it was real and the otherwise is to bury

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Speaker 1: our head. But I think your point is obviously on

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Speaker 1: that particular yeah point in this show, we had not

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Speaker 1: platformed that perspective.

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Speaker 5: Understand what's the way to platform it if it's not,

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Speaker 5: because that's not our perspective.

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Speaker 6: So do we bring in the Trump support.

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Speaker 1: What they have to say?

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Speaker 4: Thank you the guy in the audience in Atlanta who

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Speaker 4: was talking about what he he had like some organization, young.

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Speaker 1: Man he comes into contact with every week and basically

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Speaker 1: is what the me is and we don't feel seen her.

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Speaker 1: That is like to me, this guy's directly in front

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Speaker 1: of us. The video of course, again it just felt

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Speaker 1: like propaganda. It felt like they had spiced together a

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Speaker 1: bunch of and by the way, these could have been

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Speaker 1: real sentiments by real people expressed to me. Felt a

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Speaker 1: little selling.

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Speaker 5: Get that different too, because I've done men or women

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Speaker 5: on the street like I did my my you know,

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Speaker 5: do you know your black facts?

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Speaker 6: And did do you know your politics? And walked up

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Speaker 6: to people in the same way.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't see that, But the randomness of that

674
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Speaker 1: made me feel like there was no one you came

675
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Speaker 1: in contact with who was black. We had a different

676
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Speaker 1: perspective than the one you put in this video.

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Speaker 6: And so it was in Chicago even more so.

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Speaker 3: Then I think that reflects the difference in our backgrounds,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: But also three hundred thousand fewer or maybe half a

681
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Speaker 1: million fewer people Democrats voted in the city of Chicago.

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Speaker 5: This is what I'm trying to tell you, Like, well,

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Speaker 5: a lot of there were a lot of twenty twenty period,

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Speaker 5: but twenty six I get.

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Speaker 1: But overall still I want to see thember.

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Speaker 5: From twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four, just you know,

687
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Speaker 5: just for that contrast. But I'm telling you there are

688
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Speaker 5: members of Congress who have talked to before that we

689
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Speaker 5: aired the video here and now who are overwhelmed by

690
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Speaker 5: the number of black people who said they were either

691
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Speaker 5: going to stay home or voting for Trump, all because

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Speaker 5: of the migrant stuff, which was also propaganda.

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Speaker 3: And yes, and I'm not saying that's not.

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Speaker 5: People's real lived experience, but the way that it's being

695
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Speaker 5: packaged and they force fed to us so that there's

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Speaker 5: no room for nuance.

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Speaker 4: Across social media and everything. But again, I just want

698
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Speaker 4: to be crystal clear, it wasn't the sentiment I was

699
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Speaker 4: applying newsroom sensibility and journalists where this isn't a newsroom,

700
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Speaker 4: you know. But I think I always want to be

701
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Speaker 4: very careful what I put out to people and know

702
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Speaker 4: if I'm ever showing you something it's been veted. I

703
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Speaker 4: made call, I've done it. This it did look like

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Speaker 4: like Project veritized.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, check out a clip that we know

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Speaker 1: what may up because it happened right here on the show.

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Speaker 1: But nowhere near the government of the United.

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Speaker 5: States been sitting down in the Old Office with the

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Speaker 5: president what they have had, were letting down with the president.

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Speaker 1: Can this man is guys, this isn't that. That's not

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Speaker 1: the point. All I'm saying is we can go off.

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Speaker 6: The the point.

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Speaker 3: We can we can let me hear and let me.

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Speaker 1: Hear what you have to say, Andrew, you can go

715
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Speaker 1: off the cliffs clip and never ever ever get power again.

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Speaker 1: You can, you can, you can. That isn't where we

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Speaker 1: are because we have the beginning, he said, this was

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Speaker 1: the last Angela. Angela, you are smart. However, your wisdom

719
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Speaker 1: does not supplant that of all of the American people

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Speaker 1: who went out and voted. And unfortunately I've had to

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Speaker 1: subject myself to the same damn thing. You don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm hurt. I felt awful, I felt humiliating. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to finish my point. I guess what. We've known each

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Speaker 1: other a long time. I mean, y'all, this woman dated

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Speaker 1: my very best friend since.

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Speaker 7: I mean my best friend since that point, you know,

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Speaker 7: and after law school between That's all I'm simply saying

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Speaker 7: is I've had a moderating me.

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Speaker 1: Still living, We're still breathing. There's always opportunity. Listen. The

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Speaker 1: point being, disagreement don't equal the end of a friendship

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Speaker 1: or relationship, a love deep leadership. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: just anthemy between Angela and myself. I mean that fertifany

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Speaker 1: and any other disagreements that occur on this platform, I

734
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Speaker 1: think What surprises me about people's reaction to our disagreement

735
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Speaker 1: is that I think they conclude that it's like, you

736
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Speaker 1: know how I remember those bands when we were younger,

737
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Speaker 1: and we were like, there was such great music. I

738
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Speaker 1: was a super fan, and then all of a sudden

739
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Speaker 1: we hear they broke up and nobody ever knows why

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Speaker 1: they broke up because their stuff didn't necessarily play out publicly. Well,

741
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Speaker 1: we're not those bands, and you're not going to turn

742
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Speaker 1: on the TV and there's a breakup, you know, in

743
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Speaker 1: quite that way. But it people feel uncomfortable. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: people feel uncomfortable about our disagreements to the point where

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Speaker 1: I've heard people say, look, I just fast forward through it,

746
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Speaker 1: or I turn it off and I'll pick up the

747
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Speaker 1: next episode, or you know, something like that. And I

748
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Speaker 1: love your care. But I do think that people need

749
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Speaker 1: to be able to see disagreements happen. They also need

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Speaker 1: to see reconciliation happens. That disagreements don't mean finality to

751
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Speaker 1: anything until someone says it's final, and even then there's

752
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Speaker 1: room for negotiation if they still draw breath, is my belief.

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Speaker 1: But I think there is discomfort about it. Reason why

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Speaker 1: I don't feel complete discomfort.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: What you may not have the benefit of looking at

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Speaker 1: it is the personal conflict that exists on any regular

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Speaker 1: day in and out of it. Right. That's another reason

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Speaker 1: why I'm skeptical when people say, well, I would have

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Speaker 1: done such and such and such and that situation because

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Speaker 1: you're I would have done is absent our experiences up

762
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Speaker 1: to this point. So you're I would have done will

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Speaker 1: look different than mine because we don't share the same

764
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Speaker 1: experience to this moment. But that is okay for that

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Speaker 1: to happen, and it's okay for it to happen out

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Speaker 1: loud and for us to be able to reconcile that.

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Speaker 1: But I think that reconciliation also really should be out loud,

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Speaker 1: just as the conflict is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the thing that's funny to me about

770
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Speaker 5: like our fights, is there's always this I say to people,

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Speaker 5: like even outside, they're like.

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Speaker 6: That Andrew Man, he like, I can say this about Andrew.

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Speaker 5: I don't know you, Like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: So I'll be like, just so we're clear, Andrew's not wrong.

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Speaker 5: Andrew is like the eternal diplomat. He is always going

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Speaker 5: to find some good in some person. Somewhere somehow. Now,

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Speaker 5: every now and then it's somebody that.

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Speaker 1: Crossed the diplomat piece. It's not a it's not a

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fit my perspective to a role.

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Speaker 1: It is what I feel.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm not. Let me let me be. I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying that. I'm not saying that he's trying to

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Speaker 6: fit a role. What I'm saying this is actually.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it's performative

785
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Speaker 5: at all. I'm just saying that Andrew is. I said

786
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Speaker 5: this on the show. Andrew is a new Testament Christian.

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Speaker 5: I am very old testament right until about turning the

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Speaker 5: other cheak. I'll turn another cheek once and then you

789
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Speaker 5: get slapped back. So it's and I will slap you

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Speaker 5: harder for Andrew and Tiff.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 6: So it's like I will I don't mind.

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Speaker 5: People being involved in those parts of our conversations or

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Speaker 5: even the conflict, or even picking sides.

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Speaker 6: But when you go low on one of these two,

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Speaker 6: I'm going lower. I promise you to platform can meet you.

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Speaker 5: I'm backside, so no, but I will just say I

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Speaker 5: think the thing that I appreciate about our conflict.

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Speaker 6: Even when y'all let me yell.

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Speaker 3: There was a there was a.

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Speaker 6: Show we did where TIF was like, but why are

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Speaker 6: you yelling? I said, I'm not hard or whatever.

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm screaming, And it is you learn in

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Speaker 5: therapy like some of these things go back to like

805
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Speaker 5: childhood and you ain't feel heard somewhere.

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Speaker 6: And I'm still clearly working through sixth grade.

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Speaker 1: But you're not the only one. What I know about

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Speaker 1: people and I know about myself is oftentimes when we

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Speaker 1: are in argument, the thing that is driving and fueling

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Speaker 1: what it feels like the passion of the real energy

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Speaker 1: there sometimes isn't the thing we're talking about. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: something else. And all of that, at least for me,

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Speaker 1: I have allowance for to a point, as we all

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Speaker 1: have things to a point. But I think in our

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Speaker 1: community particularly, we have to be able to show that

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Speaker 1: disagreement doesn't mean finality, it doesn't mean the end.

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Speaker 6: Do you know.

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Speaker 5: The only other thing I want to say about this

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Speaker 5: is this Joe Biden having Donald Trump in the White

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Speaker 5: House thing.

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Speaker 3: I still feel.

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Speaker 5: Strongly about that because here's the only reason why, and

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Speaker 5: it's maybe it's not the only here's the biggest reason

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Speaker 5: why we literally were telling people the entire cycle, and

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Speaker 5: I believe this still, that democracy was at stake and

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Speaker 5: you can't say that the entity or the person in

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Speaker 5: all of their backing that is behind this is now safe.

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Speaker 3: And that is what you like.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like he.

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Speaker 5: Was welcoming him into America's home, one that taxpayers pay

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Speaker 5: for and all that. You still may disagree, I get it,

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Speaker 5: but I'll just say, like it may, I was mad

833
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Speaker 5: at him because I felt like in so often we

834
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Speaker 5: are forced to defend Joe Biden when Joe Biden I

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Speaker 5: don't feel like has always protected us or even like

836
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Speaker 5: like even with pardons and you know, all these things

837
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Speaker 5: like the cash for Kids guy and all that, like

838
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Speaker 5: all of that, and we're forced to defend you when

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Speaker 5: you shouldn't be defended.

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Speaker 6: And I'm just beyond it. And I think I've been

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Speaker 6: beyond it for probably about four years, but I just

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Speaker 6: I've never I can't anyway.

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Speaker 1: So we still disagree, but that's the nature of it.

844
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Speaker 1: Keep tuning in if do you still disagree.

845
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Speaker 3: With him inviting him in the White House?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, Well, do we have to build consensus again

847
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Speaker 1: on the to this next clip.

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Speaker 6: He's over it. Let's roll this clip from Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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Speaker 9: You can walk into a room like this where people

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Speaker 9: cheer when you step onto the stage, and you might

851
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Speaker 9: think for a second that you're kind of special. Then

852
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Speaker 9: you go home and your kids remind you very quickly

853
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Speaker 9: you're actually not that big.

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Speaker 5: Of a deal.

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Speaker 3: So my kids keep me humbled.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I want to say some bad words.

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Speaker 5: I really do, Tiff, And I think it's crazy because

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Speaker 5: when I watched that the first time, I wasn't emotional,

860
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Speaker 5: just angry now, like knowing my own IVF journey and

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Speaker 5: what I've been.

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Speaker 6: Through and to be childless, and it's not by choice.

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Speaker 4: It's just mean.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's really mean. And I just wish that.

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Speaker 5: When they go through this journey of what it means

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Speaker 5: to birth people, you know in this country, how much

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Speaker 5: of a struggle it is, how much of a blind

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Speaker 5: eye they turn to black maternal health or maternal health

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Speaker 5: period with the blind eye they turned to the kids.

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Speaker 5: Tipulate out all the data, Andrew you laid out the data,

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Speaker 5: the personal experience you and Tip's own connection as children.

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Speaker 3: To this issue.

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Speaker 5: We have got to have a more holistic, nonpartisan approach

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Speaker 5: to policy making for children and people who desire to

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Speaker 5: have children, and you should not shame people who did not,

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Speaker 5: who chose not.

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Speaker 3: Or who can not have kids. I feel the same.

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Speaker 1: I just cruelty was the point.

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Speaker 3: Cruelty, that's the point.

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Speaker 1: Cruelty was the point, and they're just cruel Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that there are a lot of ways

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Speaker 5: that if we could take a step back. My mom

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Speaker 5: always talks about perspective taking and that being the greatest

884
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: skill we can learn in life. I think our politics

885
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: would be more friendly, our workplaces would be more friendly

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00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 5: places of how our learning would be if we only

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Speaker 5: took a step out of our shoes and into, you know,

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Speaker 5: the shoes of others.

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Speaker 1: Problem is the majority, the governing, the majority that exists.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the they have the freedom never to

891
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Speaker 1: have to look at it from another perspective. When your

892
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: decision's final, when your decision is the one that will

893
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: rule the day every time, why do I have to

894
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: take a moment to hear where you come from. I

895
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: do think that is an incredibly helpful skill, and there's

896
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: one that we've all had to had to deepen into,

897
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: not just develop, but really deepen into in professional work

898
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: environments to have our way. Our listeners will relate to

899
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: that they know what it means to go into a

900
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: room that is opposed, and not just opposed, don't care

901
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: enough to be opposed, but they care enough that their

902
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: perspectives still will rule the day. So how do we

903
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: communicate to a people to stop you where you are,

904
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: say open your eyes and just see me clearly for

905
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: a moment. And maybe if you see me and hear

906
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: me clearly for a moment, you can understand the passion

907
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I bring to why that thing is so important. And

908
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: if they care about you at a personal level, maybe

909
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: maybe you reach them. But I just I don't have

910
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: a belief that Donald Trump, his crew and the like

911
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: are ever going to take a pause and say, I

912
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: wonder how that lands with how that sits with them

913
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: if we do that. But I've never had that hope

914
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: for them, So it doesn't happen. Now, okay, moment the

915
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: only thought I had as I walked, thank you Jesus.

916
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: There are no cameras, No one will ever see me

917
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: this way. They can describe it, but my kids won't

918
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: ever see these chains. It was the biggest source of

919
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: embarrassment for me because I remember back to that story

920
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: of me telling you all that I never wanted to

921
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: make my mom cry for me get into trouble. It's

922
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: all I could think of her seeing me. So they

923
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: weren't there, and we go through the proceedings and the

924
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: judge says, this is the United States of America versus

925
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Gill. I mean I wish, I wish I hadn't

926
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 1: felt so emotional and expressive about it, but that was real.

927
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: Why for me? Well, I mean it, you always in retrospect,

928
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I think sometimes are always like could I have said

929
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: that and just said it and not have felt like

930
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: I come? You know, I came apart.

931
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's so good you did that,

932
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: Like I I honestly andrew it till I want to hear.

933
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: What you said. Because this is a production group up.

934
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 5: I guess I think it would be so dope for

935
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 5: Andrew to have a show with folks who are like

936
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: recovering politicians or who lost the race that they shouldn't

937
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 5: have or whatever, where they are like, okay, now what

938
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: do I do? And like the grief that hits you

939
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 5: after the election because the voters are all like, I

940
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: don't know what I'm gonna do now that you lies,

941
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: You're like, bitcha, what about men?

942
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: You know?

943
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 5: So I think it would be such a good conversation

944
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: with him and others who have gone through that experience.

945
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: I'm glad not that you came apart, but I'm glad

946
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: that you were vulnerable.

947
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: Enough to open up.

948
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean it was what it was.

949
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: If you don't want him to do that, I want

950
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: him to do that show.

951
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 10: Yeah.

952
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: I think what would be interesting is even if it

953
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Speaker 4: was somebody who lost the race and then later went

954
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: on to win a race. It's about you know, what

955
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: you did after defeat, So it doesn't have to be

956
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: you know, people who aren't currently in public office, they

957
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: might still be in public office. I think that's a

958
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: good show.

959
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the journey for all of

960
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: this matters, which can apply to anybody in any sector,

961
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: just happens to be a lot more public when you lose.

962
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: The only thing I reflect on is the number of

963
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: people who still you know, tell me how hurt and

964
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, mad or sad or disappointed because I always

965
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: think like, do you really think that you are more

966
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: that than I? Uh, they might they may think.

967
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: They may think that, yeah, they.

968
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: May think think the cost has been born largely by

969
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: my household and people who I see and care, you know,

970
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: care the most about.

971
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 5: So that being said, sorry, this is I hope I

972
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: won't be down a rabbit hole. But just one thing

973
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 5: I thought about they after losing. I still say that.

974
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 5: I know I probably sound like a trumper. I don't

975
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 5: really care. I don't think Andrew really lost it. They

976
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: would have counted all the ballots, but after losing, they

977
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 5: then went on to indict you mm hmm, what do

978
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: you think would have happened if you were in the

979
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: governor's mansion?

980
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: Have come sooner?

981
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was inevitable.

982
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: I think they they were out to period.

983
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 6: To humiliate, like they would have all all the layers

984
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 6: of it, all the layers.

985
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you thought about that.

986
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: Oh I thought we talked about that, not on the

987
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: podcast when it was like a ran and it wasn't

988
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: a long conversation, but I remember telling you because somebody

989
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: left a comment on YouTube.

990
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: It was kind of mean, but I appreciate what they

991
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 3: were trying to say.

992
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: It was after you guys argued about the the Joe

993
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: Biden walk, and Andrew's point was, I don't want to

994
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: see what your point was, but you at some point

995
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: in that conversation made the point like we pick up

996
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: and we go on. And somebody made a comment and said,

997
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: not Andrew telling us to pick up and go on

998
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 4: when he still hasn't gotten back out there to help

999
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: save us from this maniac in Florida. And there's so

1000
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: many comments like that, like what you out here doing?

1001
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: Podcasts like you see what's going? And Obama tweeted something

1002
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: during the Trump administration, and I will paraphrase the response,

1003
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: but he tweeted some random thing like oh today is

1004
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: like MLK, Dame Michelle and I are celebrated.

1005
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: And somebody responded to said, Ninja help.

1006
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: You know I get away. And I've shared with you

1007
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: privately and otherwise that I get that people. I feel

1008
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: I understand it to be sincere. But we're all very

1009
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: selfish in our in our own ways. And I keep

1010
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: when I have to compare whatever time I'm taking from

1011
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: my own repair work to the fact that I've been

1012
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: elected for more time that I've been on this earth, yes,

1013
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: than the total time I've been on this earth that

1014
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: that it has subtracted.

1015
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 6: It's so damn shallow.

1016
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: Today I've been elected for more times.

1017
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Well, I mean if I went back to that's to

1018
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: a public book. But I mean, yeah, to be in

1019
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: service for as long as I don't have a memory outside. Yeah, yeah,

1020
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: since third grade?

1021
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: Third grade?

1022
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me, no, I mean I've just made you think

1023
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: about it.

1024
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: In leadership running.

1025
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Say to you, which is you're the leader. You have

1026
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: to be out there, you have to set the example.

1027
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: You have to do this, You have to do that.

1028
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Those lessons have been imputing me from They're almost the

1029
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: only ones that I can really have real memory of.

1030
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: And so I get the sincerity of you might be

1031
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: contributing this way all most don't even say that you

1032
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: may not be. You may be contributing because you're lifting

1033
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: up the issues that we should be thinking about, but

1034
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: rather you're not sacrificing yourself laid right there on the

1035
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: front line. Yeah exactly. But if you're not that, then

1036
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: you're not contributing. Rebuke it, but I understand it.

1037
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 5: Do you feel do you feel after hearing that so

1038
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 5: many times? Not just in YouTube comments or on Instagram comments?

1039
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: Which I know you mostly ignore social media. But do

1040
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: you feel after now being back in the public eye

1041
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 5: on a like a bigger scale again with the podcast,

1042
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: do you feel compelled at all? Like do you feel

1043
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 5: poor into public service?

1044
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: No? Not in that way. I don't if I feel

1045
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: pulled in any way. It's about the things that are

1046
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: happening and the way in which it's showing up for

1047
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: the people I care about. But I don't. My default

1048
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: position is not now to let me go figure out

1049
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: what office I can hold that will best impact this.

1050
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: That isn't the default anymore, and I don't know that

1051
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: it ever will be. But should it ever become it,

1052
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I believe that in my faith tradition that God is

1053
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: preparing me for. But whatever I want to read something, well,

1054
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: I whatever it is, I know that I'll be a

1055
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: lot more complete and full of person. Yeah, and doing

1056
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: whatever that thing is, I love it.

1057
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you, brother, proud of y'all.

1058
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: Before we even jump into the substance of the podcast,

1059
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 5: let's roll that clip.

1060
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 10: Beach Blond Bad built, Please, Blond Bad built, Pleach Blond.

1061
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: Bad built, buch body what now?

1062
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh what now?

1063
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 10: Peach Blond Bad Built, Please blond, bad built, Please blond

1064
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 10: bad built, bush body, please blind bad built, Please blind

1065
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 10: bad built, please blond bad built.

1066
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: Butch body. I'm just curious that.

1067
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, that's where we're up against these days. We're

1068
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 5: up against a whole lot of beach blonde, bad built.

1069
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: You're about to say, but we want to replace one

1070
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: of those B words. But we can't stop in ourselves

1071
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: apologies because.

1072
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: You well come, well come, well come, well come, well come.

1073
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 6: We okay, y'all. So we have a very I'm anticipating

1074
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 6: a very busy year.

1075
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: Y'all know.

1076
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 5: We've been drinking out of fire hose is just trying

1077
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 5: to keep up with these cabinet picks.

1078
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 8: Uh.

1079
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: And I think it's gonna be a busy year, not

1080
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 5: just for politics on the federal level, but also state

1081
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 5: and local. There's gonna be some racial justice stuff we're

1082
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 5: fighting on every side. We see in corporations, roll back

1083
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 5: DEI efforts all of that. So as we look ahead,

1084
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 5: what roles shall we play in creating safe space but

1085
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 5: also challenging what's ahead?

1086
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: What do we think?

1087
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: I think one thing that I've been struggling with and

1088
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 4: just thinking about, because it's not always a struggle I

1089
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: feel like a broken record when I say, trying to

1090
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: cover this man is like trying to catch confetti, Like

1091
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: you can get so distracted in that that you lose

1092
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 4: the bigger picture. So I know, well, personally, I would

1093
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: like us to talk about overarching themes, not get so

1094
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: caught up in the chaos of this administration, because there's

1095
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: going to be a ton of it, you know, And

1096
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: by the time that this podcast airs, ten things have happened,

1097
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 4: you know. And that's intentional, Like they want to flood

1098
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 4: the news cycle with nonsense, so that is what people

1099
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: end up talking about. You chase this around and then

1100
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: while you're looking over here, this thing has happened. While

1101
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: you're looking at Jim Comey being fired, mandatory minimums are

1102
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: brought back, you know. And so I think one I

1103
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: want to focus on giving our people something to believe in.

1104
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: What does democracy look like to you? Another thing I

1105
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: want to focus on is big, big, big laws that

1106
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: are potentially changing, Like how are we protecting laws and

1107
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: then protecting our person? And I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: that comes from our physical mental person, but also from

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Speaker 4: a policy perspective that comes to your point from the

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Speaker 4: state and local level. And you can actually impact policy

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Speaker 4: at the state and local level a lot easier than

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Speaker 4: you can at the federal level. So paying attention to

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Speaker 4: what's below the fold, the things that the echo chambers

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Speaker 4: are not discussing, informing people as much as opining, you know,

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Speaker 4: like making sure people walk away armed with oh, I

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Speaker 4: understand this issue better, which encourages action, It encourages participation,

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Speaker 4: and then opening up the space more to hear from

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Speaker 4: people more.

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Speaker 3: We had a good idea the other day.

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Speaker 9: What was it?

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, I would like us to see to do

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Speaker 4: if I'm if I'm previewing something, we're not ready for it,

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Speaker 4: we'll cut it out. But a town hall with people

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Speaker 4: who did not vote, yes, like vetted people we know,

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Speaker 4: like we know y'all didn't vote, and we want to

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Speaker 4: hear straight up from you. How do you feel about democracy?

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Speaker 4: What would it take for you to participate? I would

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Speaker 4: really love that and that might be an ongoing series.

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Speaker 1: I think you said, no, that's that it was going

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Speaker 1: to be like the thing that I think this year

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Speaker 1: hopefully affords us the deepening into like what's real and

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Speaker 1: what isn't I you know, I'll use for example, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the news media has been talking about people's

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Speaker 1: reactions to the really unfortunate murder that occurred in New

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Speaker 1: York with the corporate healthcare CEO, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and all these other platforms people are raising money.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, you know, creating alibis. He couldn't have done it.

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Speaker 1: He was with me, we were on a date, or

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Speaker 1: you know whatever. And they're talking about how just you know, sinister,

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Speaker 1: this feels and sounds and this is and that and third,

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Speaker 1: and I keep thinking, you know, this is how the

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Speaker 1: chasm starts. Like you're all the way over here on

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Speaker 1: the sanctimonious regular folks are are are here, And I'm

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Speaker 1: not ascribing regular folks being at the opposite perspective. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is is the chasms have to like shrinking

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Speaker 1: until they no longer exist. And it's important to me

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Speaker 1: that that happened amongst our community more than more than anything.

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Speaker 1: And it isn't for any political outcome that I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 1: It's because I want to recognize who I'm in community with.

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Speaker 1: I want to and if I say we're in community together,

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Speaker 1: I want that to be true not just for me,

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Speaker 1: but to be true for you. I can't claim you

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Speaker 1: when you disagree with everything that I believe in and

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Speaker 1: stand for, and I the same you know with you.

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Speaker 1: So that deepening into what people what is driving where's

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Speaker 1: the motivation? Is it about a check or is it

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Speaker 1: about respect? Is it about you know? What does that

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Speaker 1: look like? Also, while I I completely receive the point

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Speaker 1: that this administration will be a bunch of stuff just happen,

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Speaker 1: events being mistaken for progress, I know that there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of that happening. But then on the

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Speaker 1: real there's gonna be a lot of a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to warn people about what they're gonna miss, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, I have this today and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be taken from you because most of us,

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Speaker 1: our minds won't be wrapped around the fact that it

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Speaker 1: can really be taken from us. But ask women and

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Speaker 1: men who understand reproductive health. I'm afraid about the what

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Speaker 1: will be stripped from us. That will be taken and

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Speaker 1: it won't be done in the bright lights of the camera,

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Speaker 1: but in the midnight hours and when people aren't paying attention.

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Speaker 1: That will reap real havoc on our community. So our

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Speaker 1: ability to watch, see and guardrail on some of those things.

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Speaker 1: And then I think, lastly for me, hopefully this year

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Speaker 1: is going to be about us sort of having more

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Speaker 1: of our interpersonal show up our you say, you know,

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Speaker 1: tending to ourselves, tending to the health, the mental well being,

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Speaker 1: health and care. I think we talked about that throughout

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Speaker 1: this year. I hope we do a little bit more

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Speaker 1: diving deeper into that to help people fill equipped with

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Speaker 1: some tools on how to navigate this life we're living

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Speaker 1: right now and to personally I need it, and I

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Speaker 1: know that if that's true, that that's probably true for

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Speaker 1: someone else too.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 5: I think the thing that I really am hoping for

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Speaker 5: is more connection with our audience and people who will

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Speaker 5: one day become audience, but they feel like NLP fam.

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Speaker 5: I love if you bringing up the idea around the

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Speaker 5: town halls. I want to do that so bad. I

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Speaker 5: do want to do Battleground, but there are more folks

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Speaker 5: than just Battleground, because as we talked about, it's not

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Speaker 5: just our work that matters, it's our whole being and

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Speaker 5: so really creating space for that.

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Speaker 3: I also.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to a lot more laughs with y'all.

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Speaker 5: We have a good time on the show, whether it's

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Speaker 5: talking about a bee for TIFFs, sports expertise, which reminds

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Speaker 5: me welcome, yes, thank you on that.

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Speaker 3: Who do you have for the Super Bowl? Oh man,

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Speaker 3: where do I begin?

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Speaker 1: You don't begin.

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Speaker 3: I you know, there are so many I like what

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Speaker 3: I see this season so far. I have to tell

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Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a lot of yeah. Right, there's been

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Speaker 4: a lot of good performance out.

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Speaker 3: There, a lot of good, good, a lot of good,

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Speaker 3: a lot of good.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say this year, I got the Falcons

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl bias for Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was a minority owner of the Falcons, so

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Speaker 3: he got out to.

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Speaker 5: You know, doesn't have a conflict or anything. I was

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Speaker 5: going to say, I got Kendrick, So I do.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 5: Want to just shout out there have been a lot

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Speaker 5: of great things that happen this year. One of my

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Speaker 5: favorites is the Kendrick Lamar album After the beef. There

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Speaker 5: was a whole album and him putting all the West

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Speaker 5: Coast rappers and making sure that they got they shine.

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Speaker 5: I have bumped the album NonStop, consistently. And I will

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Speaker 5: also just say that this podcast in so many ways

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Speaker 5: saved my life, and it matters to me that folks

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Speaker 5: feel connected to us, whether they agree or disagree, that

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Speaker 5: they have a space to call home every single week.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm grateful for you all for taking this

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Speaker 5: journey and ride, and I'm looking forward to the roller

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Speaker 5: coaster that will be twenty twenty five, for those projects,

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Speaker 5: for a thousand developments, for its climate changing, and for

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Speaker 5: maybe a lot of good stuff that comes out of this.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes black folks organize the best in terror.

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Speaker 3: So we've been in again.

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Speaker 4: So I really I need some sunshine coming here on

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Speaker 4: every level, on every level, I love it.

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Speaker 5: Well, Welcome home, y'all year, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 5: listening everybody. As always, we want to remind you to

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Speaker 5: leave us a review and subscribe to Native Lam Pod.

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Speaker 5: We're available on all platforms and YouTube, and you can

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Speaker 5: follow us on social media. We are Angela Raie, Tiffany Cross,

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Speaker 5: and Andrew Gillum. Happy New Year. There are six hundred

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Speaker 5: and seventy days until the midterm elections.

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Speaker 3: Morning.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for joining the Natives attention of what the

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Speaker 11: info and all of the latest rock Gilm and Cross

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Speaker 11: connected to the statements that eve on our shows. Thank

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Speaker 11: you sincerely for the pass. Reason for your choice is clear.

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Speaker 11: So grateful to execute.

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Speaker 3: Roles for serve.

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Speaker 11: Defendant, protect the truth. And we welcome home to all

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Speaker 11: of the natives wait.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Welcomelco.

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