1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Tom Holman 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: started off the day bright and early eight am Eastern 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: seven am in Minneapolis. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: I love it. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: As a guy who used to get up early for radio, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: buck when I was on live at five am Central 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: every day for five years, nobody in media elsewhere was awake. 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: I have been on radio row for five am starts 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: when I was the only guy there. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Media hates getting up. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Early in the morning, So I actually loved Tom Holman 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: starting off the day and setting the agenda for the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: entire day with what I thought was an incredibly fantastic 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: performance at his press conference. And we're going to get 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: into that. President Trump right now is having a live 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: cabinet meeting. It has been going for about twenty minutes. 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: Judging by how these cabinet meetings have gone in the past, 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: he may be talking for a couple of hours. The 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: most transparent and open administration that we have ever seen, 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: answering questions on every object under the sun. We will 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: discuss that when we as we are continuing to move 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: through the program. But Buck, I would say major blockbuster 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: revelations on Alex Pretty, the hero nurse who was alleged 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: to have been completely killed with no idea. 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 2: It was just a quiet standby protester. 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: And this video that came out was it is echoed 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: across the entire Internet such that I think it's hard 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: for reasonable people who are not in complete left wing 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: silos to not say, my goodness, this guy. 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Again. 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I encourage you if you haven't seen the video, I 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: understand a lot of you may not be active on 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: social media. 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: Buck. 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: About ten days before the shooting, this pretty character was 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: out on the street screaming, I don't even think we 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: can play the video because there's so many curse words 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: in it. At ICE agents to basically fight him, with 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a lot of expletives included. He then spits on them 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: and he kicks out the tail light of the vehicle 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: that they are in. The ICE agents get out of 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle, they tackle him, and this, to me is 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: a good example of toxic empathy because one billion percent 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: the guy should have been arrested for attacking the vehicle, 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: for assault on ICE officials. 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: For his behavior. 49 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: This was not a mentally stable individual, and anybody who 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: watches this is going to have a hard time believing. 51 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: And I want to play this, Anna Navarro cut seventeen 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: on CNN. This whole narrative much like the mom who 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: just dropped her kids off story. It's completely gone up 54 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: in smoke. But here was Anna Navarro saying, this is 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: the perfect guy, the guy you want to date your daughter, 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the man you want your son to be. This is 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: embarrassing for her in the wake of this latest video, 58 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: Cut seventeen. 59 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: They killed the wrong guy, right because this is the 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: perfect guy. Alex Petty is the guy you would want 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: to date your daughter, the guy you'd want your son 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 3: to grow up to be a decent human being, who 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: was serving humanity, serving sick veterans. Who is you know, 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: there is nothing that has been said about that man 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: can't malign him because we have the videos. 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, this video came out. I know you've 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: been reacting to it. I've been reacting to it. My 69 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: hope is my mother in law staying with us because 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: her power is still out. 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: She said. 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Nobody who needs to see this video is going to 73 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: see it, So there may be wisdom from my mother 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: in law there. But what were your thoughts when you 75 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: saw this video of hero nurse Alex pretty well? 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: First off, on the CNN side of this, if you 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: think that she's going to be embarrassed by the truth, 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: you don't understand the nature of CNN. As I put 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: on X, this is her job. Her job is to 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: lie to make the audience believe whatever they want to believe. 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: So she did her job. There's no shame in lying 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: at CNN as long as their pleasant lies that libs 83 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: wish to hear. 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: That is the gig. 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: And as for watching this video, it's interesting, Clay, because 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: we were trying to be as we always try to be, 87 00:04:54,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: very fair and adhere to the facts they came out 88 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: about all of this. And yet yesterday several times I 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: used the word to describe this guy, that he was 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: alone a lunatic, and that was quite obvious even from 91 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: just the initial exchange. Now, while you have Anna Navarro 92 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: and CNN saying this guy was basically some kind of saint, 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: and you have MSNBC pretending that he's much more handsome 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: than he was, which by the way, shouldn't matter at all. 95 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: But it matters to that audience because they're creating a 96 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: narrative and they're making a fable. This is a myth, 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: this is myth making they are engaged in. But then 98 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: you turn on this program and we're saying, well, the 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: guy's clearly a lunatic, and then video comes out showing yeah, 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: he's clearly a lunatic. But we were saying that before 101 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: the video came out, because we actually do analysis here 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: and use deductive reasoning and think things through and care 103 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: about being right and be honest with you all the time. 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: So it's just interesting to see how quickly this thing came. 105 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: Yet again, there are people, especially you know, I would 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: say Monday Clay, there are a lot of conservatives maybe 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: put that in quotes, A lot of people on the 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: right put that in quotes. 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: Oh, I think we need to like really reassess everything. 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: No, we do not need to reassess deporting millions of 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: illegals who don't have a right to be in the country, 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: And we certainly don't need to reassess prioritizing the deportation 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: of true public safety threats, scary violent criminals in many cases, 114 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: rapist murderers, et cetera. Who are in the country illegally 115 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: and already have deportation orders, and who Democrats are harboring 116 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: and sheltering and obstructing law enforcement efforts to deport Yes, 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: this is some people fell for this, and I sit 118 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: here and I go, you know, these are like it's 119 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: the same. 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Routine from the lib media over and over again. 121 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: No, now you finally, you finally have to agree with 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: us because of. 123 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: How horrible this. 124 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: No, no, sorry, that's not going to work this time 125 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: didn't work last time or the time before that, not 126 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: on this show. 127 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: But I think it just goes to show you, man, 128 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: they will do anything. 129 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: They will lie, they will cheat, they will steal, they 130 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: will use AI to give someone a square jaw and 131 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: a winning smile, whatever they have to do to get 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: the easily fooled, the low iq and the cowardly to 133 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: go along with the abandonment of this central effort of 134 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: a Trump administration. So I just I feel very good 135 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 4: about the analysis we did here on this. By the way, 136 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: I still think he's probably gonna get a huge judgment 137 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: from the city because now you're gonna get into Well 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: that doesn't change that, okay, but we all know what 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: really went on here? 140 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Right? 141 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: You know, we all know that this guy was quite 142 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: truly literally asking for it in that video. 143 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Yes, sold me you you know, mf and this and 144 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: cursing and everything else. 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Man, we pull that for the team and edit the 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: but I do think the uh vile nature of his 147 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: interactions with Ice, this audience should hear what he was screaming. 148 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: On that video. 149 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Again, we've got FCC restrictions, so we'll edit out the 150 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: curse words. But yes, look, and do you agree with me, 151 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: by the way, that if that guy, if he had 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: been arrested, if he had been arrested on that day, 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance he might well still 154 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: be alive. Because one of the things that unfortunately happens 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: when you allow violent crazy behavior to continue, you incentivize 156 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: more violent crazy behavior. 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: And look, this is why I said. People got mad 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: at me. 159 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Some people were like, oh my god, hell, this is 160 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: why I said, Tim Walls and Jacob Fry have blood 161 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: on their hands because this guy thinks he's a hero 162 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: and he is taking direction from them. 163 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: And so the family. 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: By the way, for anybody out there who is questioning 165 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: is this video real, because it is a reality sadly 166 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: that we're going to be in now where every video 167 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: that comes out, people are going to say it's Ai 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: if it has a story that may have evidence that 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: they don't like. 170 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 2: The family has acknowledged it's him. There is zero. 171 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: Dispute that he attacked ICE agents in the time leading up, Buck, 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: I bet there's a bunch of other videos of him 173 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: engaging in behavior just like this. He wanted to have 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: a confrontation with ICE. It's why he had the gun, 175 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: It's why he behaved the way that he did. And 176 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: you know, frankly, I just it's a reality of where 177 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: we are that he engaged in behavior that was intended 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: to provoke confrontation, and unfortunately for him, he got a 179 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: confrontation that ended up being fatal. But this was not 180 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: some accidental incident or some completely innocent bystander who found 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: himself dragged into a violent encounter. He'd been seeking this 182 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: for weeks. 183 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is the reality of the situation unfolded, 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: unfolding before us. Clay is the I had to convince 185 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: everyone this guy as we heard that one preposterous clip 186 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: on CNN. But her job, that woman, she's one of 187 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: the dumbest commentators on TV, and her job is to 188 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: say stuff like that. So, like I said, it's not embarrassed. 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 4: That wouldn't change It wouldn't change a word of it. Now, 190 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. This guy was supposed to be. Oh, 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: it could have been your dad. It could have been 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: your brother, or your friend, or your coworker, your next 193 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: door neighbor. This guy's an American as apple pot. No, 194 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: he's actually a lunatic who runs at cops and spits 195 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: in their faces and kicks their cars because he doesn't 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: want the enforcement of completely legitimate laws passed by the 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: United States Congress, enforced by people like Barack Obama, I 198 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: might add, among other Democrats. We might get to some 199 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: of those old Obama clips coming up. He's like, look, 200 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: I know people want to be here, but you got 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: to go, you know. So we're seeing that once again 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: the martyrs of the left or maniacs and their heroes 203 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: are actually often criminals, frauds, maniacs themselves. So this is 204 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: something that I think is a reminder for anybody who 205 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: started to fall for this. Look, it doesn't mean that 206 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: the shooting wasn't possibly an overreaction by ice under the situation. 207 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: We got to have a full investigation, we got to 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: see all the body camera footage. But this guy was 209 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: truly asking for exactly what we saw, which is multiple 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: violent encounters with immigration custom enforcement. If you play this 211 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: game with cops and you get shot, you asked for 212 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 4: the dangerous situation to happen, and what that is. Unfortunately, 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: how this tragedy came to an end. 214 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: And for anybody out there to build on Buck who said, 215 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we've got to consider, Oh we've got 216 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: to pull out of Minneapolis. Oh my goodness, this is unacceptable. 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: This is I think a strong evidence yet again to 218 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: wait and see. Most of these people are engaging in 219 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: violence behavior and trying to incite this kind of outcome sadly, 220 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: and Democrats bragged about wanting it in July. The other 221 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: thing I would say about this Buck as we get 222 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: ready to go to break here is I do think 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: this could be substantial evidence of his behavior. Now, it 224 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't justify the shooting, but if they find more and 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: more videos of him engaging in behavior, and there is 226 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: some sort of knowledge about this guy, which maybe there was, 227 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be crazy to say, hey, this guy kicked 228 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: our tail lights out these guys talk. I believe that 229 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: was Ice Border Patrol was involved in the shooting. There 230 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: are a bunch of different agencies involved here. But this 231 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: is yet again evidence that these are not heroes. These 232 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: are to a large part, mentally unstable wackadoodles who are 233 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: trying to create violent situations for our federal law enforcement. 234 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: And there are people, and I think this is important, 235 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: there are people who are making you know, two three 236 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: hundred grand to sit around and write garbage at the 237 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: Washington Post, and people making millions of dollars sitting in 238 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: CNN studios and MS now and ABC News in these places, 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: who know that they are praying on the deranged and 240 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 4: know that they are going to get people like this 241 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: guy so riled up that they do stupid and dangerous things, and. 242 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: They don't care because if it's. 243 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: In any way allowing them to play out their emotional 244 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: combat with Donald Trump, they're totally accepting of whatever casualties 245 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: in that battle are necessary. That's the real truth. The 246 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: really the sick part of this all is that they 247 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: encourage Preddy to do what he did. He died, They're 248 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: using him, and they don't actually care about the next 249 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: pretty at all, because if they did, they would stop 250 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: saying that these are Nazis or even worse than Nazis 251 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. They don't care. Yes, totally using these people, 252 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 4: totally using Jimmy Kimmel tears. 253 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 254 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: Natalie Portman, by the way, among the most overrated in 255 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: every respect on the planet. Natalie Portman my list of 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: the most overrated. I'm not trying to get into a 257 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: whole their digression of Natalie Portman. 258 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, oh, I can't co sign there. I think she's 259 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: actually a talented actress. Did you see the Black Swan? 260 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: Not very in the Black Swan, awful garbage, very movie garbage. 261 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Not she's not look she's not that pretty, because we're 262 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: always told and I don't even say that's me she's 263 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: a famous, like actress, worth a hundred million dollars, told 264 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: she's the most beautiful woman in the world. Okay, okay, Natalie, 265 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I did not think you're just gonna take a tube 266 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: by forded Natalie Portman today. 267 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: Just not that just not that good, not that not 268 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: that good. It's good. 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: In the Star Wars movies, a lot of you know, 270 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: kind of kind of looks like a fourteen year old boy. 271 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: A lot of the time, I'm just saying I'm not 272 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: a fan, not a fan. Uh where were we? We're 273 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: you gotta read? 274 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean Natalie, I'm just had Portman was a secret 275 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: fan and she's just driving her set. Definitely not right now, 276 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: definitely not. She's like she's under the radars. She loves 277 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck and you just torpedoed that right off 278 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: the bat here off the top of the show. 279 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: Her name is Natalie. 280 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: Her name was true True story. Her name is Natalie Horschlog. 281 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: That's her real name. Yeah, I understand why she changed 282 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: her name, but I understand why she changed her name 283 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: to all Right, Puretalk's monthly cell phone service just twenty 284 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: five dollars a month. Compare that to your current monthly 285 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: cell phone bill. 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Thank you, mister Clay. 310 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: Making America great again isn't just one man, It's many. 311 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: The team. 312 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: Forty seven podcast Sunday's at. 313 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: Noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find 314 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 315 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in here. To Clay and Buck. 316 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: We got a pretty quick turn. So we're gonna come 317 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: back in a second and get deeper into the latest 318 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: about this individual that we were told we all had 319 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: to find as an I guess an avatar of all 320 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: that is good and decent in the world, cared so 321 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 4: much about illegals and just wanted it. No, it turns 322 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 4: out he's running around and he's spitting at cops and 323 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: he's causing mayhem in traffic. He should have been arrested 324 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 4: for that and should have been prosecuted for that, and 325 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: he wasn't because he's in Minneapolis and things are messy 326 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: there because Democrats. 327 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Don't believe in the rule of law. 328 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: And then he ended up getting shot again confronting officers. 329 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 4: And did they react too quickly or did they did 330 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: they overreact the situation. We'll look at the body camera 331 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: footage before we determine that. But this guy was not 332 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: who we were told he was. He was gonna say, 333 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: led to believe Clay, we didn't believe it. Yeah, good check. 334 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: I was like this guest Stratt, I think the word 335 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: loon came out of my mouth a couple of times. 336 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: The guy's a loon, which he was sorry, he's dead. 337 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 4: Should not have been doing what he did with the 338 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: cops though. It was a very very foolish thing to do. 339 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: And that's where we are. That's where we have it 340 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: right now, our friends. Okay, Owning gold isn't a get 341 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: rich quick tactic. 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Make right now your first time to buy gold. 362 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: Text Buck to ninety eight ninety eight, ninety eight. 363 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show President Trump 364 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: having a cabinet meeting today, and we've got a funny 365 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: cut from President Trump about trying to keep the cabinet 366 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: meeting shorter because even he got bored when it went 367 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: on for so long recently. But I believe we have 368 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: removed the explotives from this. But I did think it 369 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: was important for you to hear what Alex Pretty was 370 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: saying to the Ice agents about eleven days before he 371 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: was shot. 372 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: Here. 373 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 4: He is just I mean, it's it was think of 374 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 4: like the founding fathers and the great rhetoric of our nation. 375 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: I was amazed, you know. He came forth and he said, hear, ye, 376 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: hear ye, I speaketh on behalf of my first Amendment 377 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: rights of this great nation of patriots. To address you 378 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: with my grievances or or clay this way. 379 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: Yes, listen, Okay, so it's a little bit hard to 380 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: hear me. Give me liberty or give me death. 381 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: Patrick, Yeah, I would say, Buck, this was devastating to 382 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: the argument of Alex Pretty's overall saint leads, if only 383 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: for this reason. When I first shared this video, I 384 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: actually went in the comments. I don't spend a lot 385 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: of time in the comments necessarily unless I think you're 386 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna make me laugh, and a lot of times you 387 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: guys do. But I went in and I was surprised 388 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: by how many left wingers were in the comments immediately 389 00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: saying this is AI, this isn't real, because I think 390 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: they recognized and then almost immediately to their credit, the 391 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is basically left going slop in Minneapolis, 392 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: they came out and they said, oh, sorry, this is real. 393 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: And it feels like the story has to a large 394 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: extent Buck vanished. 395 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: Like I'm watching my quad box here. 396 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about Alex Pretti today after that video 397 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: came out. They've actually shifted to talking a lot about 398 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the FBI seizing seven hundred boxes in Atlanta. This is 399 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: a very very prescient moment to talk about manufacturing delusion, 400 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: which is available for pre sale now Clay, where there's 401 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: a whole chapter on how not only is AI going 402 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: to be used for disinformation purposes, et cetera, as it 403 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: already is, but people will seize on AI to continue 404 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: with their own. 405 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: Prejudices about different situations. Meaning all you have to do 406 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if it's verified or not. If someone believes, 407 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 4: for example, that you know, Trump used pudin to hack 408 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: into voting machines in twenty sixteen, you create some video, 409 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: you create some basis for this, and people will believe 410 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: what they want to believe, even if it's fake and 411 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: they're told it's fake, they'll say, no, I don't believe 412 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: that it's fake. Right, So this is what you're seeing 413 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 4: that with pretty right now, That's exactly what's going on. 414 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: They're going, oh no, no, there must be AI. It's 415 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: not that people if they're told it's a I will 416 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: necessarily wake up. They'll believe the AI when they want 417 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: to believe the AI. That's the world that we are 418 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: very quickly realizing we are in. And Clay one other 419 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: thing about this, I think, uh, just be prepared. All 420 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're having these people say, well, this 421 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: doesn't matter at all. What he did before doesn't matter, 422 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: and who he was doesn't matter, and oh, okay, So 423 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: for a few days we're told this guy he's a nurse, 424 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 4: he's a was he a veteran. 425 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: I heard someone say that, I don't even know it. 426 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: All that mattered for the path at once he was shot. 427 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: All that mattered was his past history in life as 428 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: evidence of why he shouldn't have been he was. 429 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: We were basically getting the New York Times having people 430 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: talk about how in high school he helped an old 431 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 4: lady across the street and gave up his seat on 432 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: the bus once in nineteen eighty seven or something. I mean, 433 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: that's all we're being told what a great. 434 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: Human being is. 435 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: I was just waiting for the George Floyd asked murals 436 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: to start popping up in Minneapolis. 437 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: Of course with him with the new square. 438 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: Jaw and the incredible good looks and everything that they 439 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: had fabricated for him. 440 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: But like, we're getting ready. 441 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: So the fact that he was so amazing, Clay was 442 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: a huge part of the news cycle. Yes, until it 443 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: becomes clear that actually people who know him, said he 444 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: had essentially Clay radicalized. This guy was an anti ICE gihottist. Effectively, 445 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: he was getting weird. His family had thought he was 446 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 4: getting weird. Something had happened to him. And then what 447 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: kind of normal person shows up and does this and 448 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: ICE officers in a protest. I'm talking about the stuff 449 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: that's on the video. Now you never mind the stuff 450 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: that led to him getting shot, which also was bizarre. 451 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: The guy's alone, But now it doesn't matter that he's 452 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: allone for days. We were told he was, you know, 453 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: a cross between mother Teresa and Brad Pitt, and now 454 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: it's how dare you? All that matters is whether or 455 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: not he brandished his gun in the moment he was shot. 456 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's how the game is played. I also 457 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 4: think this is. 458 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: So incredibly important associated with this, and it is this fact, 459 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: as he was engaging in this behavior, he should have 460 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: been arrested. We've got to arrest all of these people 461 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: because if we don't, in addition to the fact that 462 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: they're radicalized. Buck, when he kicked the taillight of that 463 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: car out and when he spit on ICE agents and 464 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: nothing happened to him, it emboldens him to act out 465 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: more recklessly because he's seen what he can get away with. 466 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: And so we're actually the empathy here of not arresting 467 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: these protes ess is actually toxic in the end result, 468 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: because I do think if he'd been arrested that time, 469 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: I think he probably would be alive today. 470 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: I really do. 471 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: Accountability matters, and accountability matters in these in these criminal issues, 472 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: it matters as just a person in your day to 473 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: day life. Clay, I'm always reminded of this. Remember the 474 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: Ducal cross case, which now the old Steven Miller footage 475 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: has shown uphere. Stephen Miller was like totally on the 476 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: right side of that, and that was a real moment. 477 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: That was before you or I were doing media. That 478 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: was a real moment though. I mean, they were trying 479 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: to railroad those kids, and I had some kind of 480 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: third order family connections to one of them, where someone 481 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: if someone of my family is very close to someone 482 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: who's very close to one of the kids, and you know, 483 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: we knew that they were getting railroad the whole thing. 484 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 4: I bring it up, Clay, because the accuser, who was 485 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: just a liar and tried to ruin people's lives. She 486 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: should have been prosecuted for making false statements about a 487 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: felony matter, especially a felony sex crime. She should have 488 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: been because they It's not that they couldn't prove the 489 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: ducal cross play. I know we're going back to what 490 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 4: two thousand and five. I'm looking it up right now 491 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: because I was down. It's not that they couldn't prove 492 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: the Duke lacrosse players were you know, it's not a 493 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: not guilty thing, it's they were innocent. Okay, they weren't 494 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 4: even said it. They weren't even there. The whole thing 495 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: was absurd. Two thousand sacks, two thousand and six, close 496 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: fast forward. You know that they didn't bring any charges 497 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: against the accuser who lied, and that is a crime, 498 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: and they knew that she lied, and then she went 499 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: on and murdered somebody stabbed him to death. Now you 500 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: could say, okay, well, one thing doesn't Actually I think 501 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: it would have been better off if she had had 502 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: to face the music on trying to ruin people's lives. 503 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: I think it wouldn't be better for her to have to 504 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 4: look in the mirror, maybe spend a year or two 505 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: in prison for what she did. Instead, of getting fifteen 506 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: to life, which is I think what she ended up 507 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: getting for murder, for stabbing a guy to death. 508 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: You hit on something that I want to continue to 509 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: hammer and I think should be standard in America. If 510 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: you accuse someone of a crime, it could be a 511 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: sex crime, it could be any crime, and you are 512 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: able to be proven to have lied, which actually is 513 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: becoming very common now because there's lots of text message evidence, 514 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: you know the technology. As such, you should be charged 515 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: and face the exact same punishment that the person would 516 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: have faced if you had been able to convict them. 517 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: In other words, if. 518 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: You accuse someone of rape and you made that up, 519 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: like the Duke Lacrosse case, when you are proven to 520 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: be a liar, as happened in Duke Lacrosse, she should 521 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: have faced the exact same punishment that all of those 522 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Duke Lacrosse players would have faced if they had been convicted. 523 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: And other there's a mutuality. 524 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: I think there should be a mutuality in the law 525 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: because we have to treat lies as more consequential because 526 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: again to your point, Buck, process as the punishment when 527 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: we can once you're a guy, if you're accused of rape, 528 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: they put your name out everywhere everybody sees it. You 529 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: may get kicked out of school, you lose your job, 530 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: everything else, and just administry. Yes, and if it later 531 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: comes out that it isn't true, there are absolutely no 532 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: consequences for the woman because we have a rape shield 533 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: law in place, so the mutuality of danger, the mutuality 534 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: of potential punishment doesn't exist. I think we should have 535 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: mirror laws. That's fine. If you commit a sexual assault, 536 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: you should go to prison for the rest of your 537 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: life or however long the statute show, right, But if 538 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: you make it up, you should be prosecuted in charge 539 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: to the full extent of the law. 540 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: You're you're walking though into I mean, by the way, 541 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: I agree with you, but you're walking into a level 542 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: of nuance that a lot of people are going to 543 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: immediately skip past, which is they're going to say, now, 544 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: no one's gonna want to file a rate claim or whatever. 545 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: It's not if you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt 546 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: that the offender did it. That's the standards. It can 547 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: be proven beyond any doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt that 548 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: you lied about the entire thing. Yes, that's that's a 549 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: very high standard. But in the situation like like the 550 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: Rolling stonecase, another very well known one. Well, I mean, 551 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: now that wasn't a that didn't go to a criminal case. 552 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying in a situation where someone just completely. 553 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Fabricates across as the perfect example to your point, like 554 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: that woman lied, Those women lied, they should have been 555 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: prosecuted to the full extent of the law. There might 556 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: be someone alive if they had done it. And again, 557 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: this is proving that you lied. Proving that ulied is 558 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: hard standard, right, So there's still an ability to lie. 559 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: But if you get proven to lie, there should be 560 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: way more. Can I just say than just oh the guys, 561 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: the guys it was. 562 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: That is the the the actual by statute, they should 563 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: have been prosecuted by statute the d but they decided 564 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: not to because of all the stuff, so it. 565 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: Is illegal to do it. 566 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: They just decided not to bring the charge. Why are 567 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: we talking about this pretty How is this guy still 568 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: running around doing this stuff. You can spit in an 569 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: ice officer's face and kick the taillight of and face 570 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: no consequences. You can attack government vehicles and personnel and 571 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: face no consequences at all. 572 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: That's where we are. 573 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: It's weird because I remember with January sixth, if you 574 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: walk into the Capitol building for less than a minute, 575 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: asked Julie Kelly, and she followed these cases all so closely, 576 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: and she followed them when a lot of people had 577 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: kind of forgotten about them, by the way, which is 578 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: one of the reasons why we have so much respect 579 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: for Julie on this show. 580 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: And we tried to elevate these cases. 581 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: I donated a bunch of buddies so they could get 582 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: warriors for people who have forgotten. 583 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: You're rich, so but you know, it was it was 584 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 4: crazy what they were doing to these people. Crazy what 585 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: they were doing to them, and there was no tears 586 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: for them whatsoever. 587 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: From all these people walked inside of ropes inside of 588 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: the Capital, many of them did, and were prosecuted to 589 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: the full extent of the law. Guy kicks out a 590 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: tail light and spits on ice agents and nothing happens 591 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: to him. I'm laughing too, by the way, Buck, because 592 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I just check my email to get ready to do 593 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: this read and I have equal parts reactions to us 594 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: talking about this Alex pretty character and also people fired 595 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: up about your Natalie Portman take. 596 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: So you want to talk about range. In the first forty. 597 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Five minutes, I have side by side emails from Alex 598 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Preddie Take and I'm gonna read this email from a 599 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: guy who has fired up big Natalie Portman fan base 600 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: evidently out there that is wrong, curious and pucker. 601 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: I think punter can they probably They probably like Sinners too. 602 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: Buck's wrong. 603 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't about Sinners. I haven't watched it, but I 604 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: think I appreciate Natalie Portman's work. Storm's like one this 605 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: past week that we are still dealing with in Nashville. 606 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, I needed to tee off in 607 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: this program over this there's still one hundred thousand people 608 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: without power households in Nashville. I've got tons of friends 609 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: and family who don't have power. The Nashville Electric Service 610 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: and the Mayor of Nashville has dropped the ball on 611 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: a level that I haven't seen in a very, very 612 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: long time, and I am super frustrated for so many 613 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: different people. We've been very fortunate we kept our power 614 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: the entire time, but about half the city of Nashville 615 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: lost their power. If you're trying to rely on government, unfortunately, 616 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: especially left wing government, they just fail over and over 617 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: and over again. And that's one reason you might want 618 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: to have rapid radios. Power is still out for one 619 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand households in Nashville alone, a lot of you 620 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: down in Mississippi again. 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Elevate your connection, your experience, rapid radios 643 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: communication redefined. 644 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes all you can do is laugh. 645 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 5: And they do a lot of it with the Sunday 646 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 5: Hang Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up 647 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: in the Klayan Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app 648 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 649 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. 650 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 4: We want to bring you some of the highlights of 651 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: the Tom home in meeting from his morning coming up 652 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: the next hour, because he did a phenomenal job making 653 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 4: the case not only for Ice but also the administration's 654 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 4: deportation goals, the reality of illegal immigration this country in 655 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 4: recent years, how out of control it has gotten. 656 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: He just it just calm, cool and collected. 657 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Holman, you all know from the very beginning 658 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 4: he was one of my favorite picks for this administration. 659 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: He should be leading this deportation effort. He should have 660 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: been leading it from the very beginning. And I think 661 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: that's where we are now. Clay, you said you got 662 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: some emails all from people who are just reminding you 663 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: of how brilliant your co host cultural analysis is, which 664 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: is fantastic. 665 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: Like two different ones that I thought were really funny. 666 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: First of all, a lot of people weighing in with 667 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: how to teach babies to sleep? But here are let's 668 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: see from Anthony buck Is nuts. Natalie Portman is naturally 669 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: pretty with no makeup. She may cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Politically, though, 670 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: I gotta say I Natalie Portman two by four, I 671 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: think she's a she's very pretty. I think you're I 672 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: think you're out to lunch on this one. Now here 673 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: is another one I thought. I thought that I thought 674 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: this was funny, while it's not. While it's still hard 675 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: to believe this is Doug Uh. Given your lack of 676 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: knowledge of football, he'll give you a pass on Pat 677 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Summer all. But and I didn't remember this back in 678 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: the day, Pat Summer al did twenty five years of 679 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: US Open tennis broadcast. 680 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: Now I don't I didn't even recall this. 681 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: But like what was like in like the seventies, But 682 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: what do you guys think This is like you think 683 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna know the TV announcers for sports from the seventies. 684 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: What are you also gonna ask me if I if 685 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: I went to Woodstock or I used to watch the 686 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: Beg's Live, Like, what do you? 687 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: What are you doing here? Guys? I don't I don't 688 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: know what year. I'm gonna have to look this up. 689 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: I had no recollection of this. 690 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that he's I'm guessing that Pat Summer all 691 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: did the US Open in the in the eighties, in 692 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: maybe the seventies. By the way, can we put in 693 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: her official request to Susie Wiles? Because I actually I 694 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: know she doesn't do very much media. I actually think 695 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: she might want to come on and discuss her dad's 696 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: legacy and Buck's lack of knowledge of it. Just an idea. 697 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: Can we put in a request? I don't even know 698 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: that Susie Wiles has done. She better have to do 699 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: anything after the Vanity Fair article. By the way, but 700 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: if she's gonna do one, it might be this to 701 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: respond to the Pat Summer all blasphemy from Buck. 702 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 4: It's not blasphemy. I'm sure he's great. I just don't 703 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: know who he is. 704 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: You know play. 705 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 4: You know you can tell me who your favorite soap 706 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: opera stars from the mid seventies were. You would know that. 707 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I'm not saying they can act. I'm just 708 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 4: saying it was before my time. 709 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I was the big days of our live stand because 710 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: my grandma watched it. I liked Bo and Hope. That 711 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: was a great storyline they had back in the day. 712 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: Look John Black