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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling

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Speaker 1: with all of you. Thursday edition of the program. I

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Speaker 1: have joined Buck in the Free State of Florida. I'm

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Speaker 1: in the northern part of Florida. He is in the

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Speaker 1: absolute most southern, nearly part of Florida. But we have

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Speaker 1: got the entire sides of the state covered. I'm on

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Speaker 1: the Panhandle, Buck, and I know you talked about when

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Speaker 1: you were in the Highlands how everybody who comes up

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Speaker 1: is super I bet per capita the Panhandle of Florida,

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Speaker 1: particularly down in the beach area, maybe the number one

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Speaker 1: most indexed I love you, Clay and Buck audience in

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Speaker 1: all of America. So this is fun. I'm in Panama

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Speaker 1: City Beach for the next couple of days and we

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Speaker 1: are monitoring a bunch of different stories that are out there.

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Speaker 1: President Trump is as we speak, I believe, unless something

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Speaker 1: has happened in the last couple of minutes on a

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Speaker 1: phone call with Vladimir Putin. Trump is Buck. He's it,

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Speaker 1: you know when you you know he got the role

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Speaker 1: going a little bit. Maybe whatever your game is table stakes.

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Speaker 1: Hey JB. Pritzker, one point four million dollars. We've have

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Speaker 1: some fun with that in gambling earnings last year. Did

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Speaker 1: you guys see that the governor of Illinois. But you

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Speaker 1: have the Maybe you're on the crabs table and the

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Speaker 1: roles are going your direction. Maybe you've just hit blackjack

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Speaker 1: against the dealer and you got some money in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just hit on a few of our prize

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Speaker 1: picks winners. But President Trump is feeling it right now.

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Speaker 1: He's got the peace agreement in the Middle East, and

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Speaker 1: he now is stepping up. He's got Zelensky coming into

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Speaker 1: the White House on Friday, and I think he's increasingly

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Speaker 1: emboldened at his hand, so to speak, and the string

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Speaker 1: of victories that he has put together. And I think

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Speaker 1: he has expectations that he's going to be able to

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Speaker 1: find peace in this Ukraine and Russia deal. And it's

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see what his negotiating lever is.

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Speaker 1: We got a bunch to get into. But right off

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Speaker 1: the top, Buck, it seems like right now Trump has

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Speaker 1: decided that maybe the way to get peace is to

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Speaker 1: make Russia fear if the war continues. Right now, there

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Speaker 1: is no fear. If you look in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people disagreed with you and me,

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Speaker 1: but we were right the strike in Iran basically let

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Speaker 1: everybody know, Okay, there are consequences if we step outside

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Speaker 1: the lines of acceptable behavior, and right now there are

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Speaker 1: no consequences for Russia. Those consequences can be economic as

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Speaker 1: it comes to oil and gas, and Trump has tried

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Speaker 1: to bring that to bear on India. But it seems

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's officially going to do it,

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Speaker 1: but it seems that Trump has decided that giving Ukraine

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Speaker 1: weapons that can reach into Russia and directly attack Russia's

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Speaker 1: ability to produce oil, which is what is the money

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Speaker 1: funding source that is allowing this war to continue, that

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Speaker 1: maybe Trump is at least willing to threaten, if not

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Speaker 1: actually willing to do it. Does that kind of seem

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Speaker 1: to be your read from a negotiating standpoint in what

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Speaker 1: exactly is at stake here or what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we should dive into some of the specifics here.

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Speaker 2: I would just add to it that there's also the

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Speaker 2: very high stakes negotiation with China going on over trade,

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Speaker 2: over tariffs, where on the first of January, as of

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Speaker 2: right now, it's supposed to be one hundred percent tariff

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Speaker 2: going into effect on Chinese goods, which this is true

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Speaker 2: trade war stuff. I mean, one hundred percent tariff is

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Speaker 2: in a little certax. That is now the products will

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Speaker 2: no longer be competitive entering the US market at the

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Speaker 2: current rates.

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Speaker 3: So that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: China is thinking that they can out maneuver Trump by

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Speaker 2: cutting rare earth minerals to.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the world.

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Speaker 2: This is a very complicated topic on its own because

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Speaker 2: rare earth. We have rare earth minerals here, we haven't

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Speaker 2: been mining them. I think a lot of this is

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Speaker 2: because the environmental lobby and concerns about, oh, the mining

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Speaker 2: is going to be so terrible, So China's been doing it,

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Speaker 2: and now China is this massive provider of rare earth

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Speaker 2: to day lives. So the China negotiation clay is heating

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Speaker 2: up right At the same time, we are entering now

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Speaker 2: another fate of the Russia negotiation, which you were laying out.

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Speaker 2: Here's my sense of this. I do not believe that

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Speaker 2: this time around either. I think that Putin still believes

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Speaker 2: of progress via words meaning Putin and we're going to

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Speaker 2: Trump saying I'm going to bloody your nose on this

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Speaker 2: if you don't stop is not going to be enough.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have to.

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Speaker 2: See an actual change in what's happening on the battlefield

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Speaker 2: because of US weapons and support, and then maybe you

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Speaker 2: can get to a deal. I think Trump has to

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Speaker 2: turn up the heat, not just threaten to turn up

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Speaker 2: the heat, to get to any kind of meaningful just

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Speaker 2: cease fire, never mind peace deal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's build on that to what extent is

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Speaker 1: giving Ukraine offensive weaponry going to lead to a more

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Speaker 1: significant battle ground, a more deadly, a more serious Remember

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Speaker 1: that Russia has nukes. Do you fear that if we

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Speaker 1: accelerate the weaponry on Ukraine side, that Russia will accelerate

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Speaker 1: the use of weaponry on their side, Because that's the

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Speaker 1: rationale for which giving you weapons that could strike into

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Speaker 1: Russia have not been done to this point. Do you

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Speaker 1: buy that as a fear that Russia will accelerate or

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Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 2: I think that Putin will make noise about that. But

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Speaker 2: I think that there are a few reasons why he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. For one, you have Russian and Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: troops in essentially a trench warfare standoff in very close contact,

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Speaker 2: such that if this was used, even a so called

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Speaker 2: tactical nuke used on the battlefield, you would be taking

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Speaker 2: I think, a substantial risk to your own forces most likely.

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Speaker 2: Now people can say, what if you nukes Kiev or

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Speaker 2: goes deep into the interior, Well, that's a massive escalation

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Speaker 2: beyond what we have even seen. That would bring I

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Speaker 2: think the international you know, forget about the international community, America,

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Speaker 2: the UK, even China at that point be like, what

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Speaker 2: the heck.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing?

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Speaker 2: And you might have reprisals, you might have a respect

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Speaker 2: from nations that you know get takes us to a

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Speaker 2: very scary place. I don't think that they're willing to

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Speaker 2: do that. I don't think they would do that if

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Speaker 2: we started, If they start lobbying missiles into Moscow maybe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know that there are red lines that

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Speaker 2: Russians have, but I don't think that more effective weapons

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Speaker 2: deploying and you know, using a nuke. That would be

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Speaker 2: a very scary world if that happened. And I know

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Speaker 2: that this is very high stakes poker, but keep in

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Speaker 2: mind they've been dangling that threat this whole time. I

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Speaker 2: think at some point people have to be willing to

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Speaker 2: call the bluff on it. I'm not sure that Trump is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how far deep down this rabbit hole

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to go. But I also think that

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Speaker 2: he recognizes the Hey, Vladimir, let's be reasonable. Let's be

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Speaker 2: let's be reasonable men here does not work. That's not

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Speaker 2: gonna work with Putin. He is not reasonable in the

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Speaker 2: sense of how we view reasonableness.

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down. I think the only thing

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Speaker 1: that Putin responds to is fear. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: as he is clearly willing to be to them. And

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Speaker 1: I think Trump has come to see that that might

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Speaker 1: be necessary. And I think you hit on something important here,

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Speaker 1: which is the China component. I wonder to what extent

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Speaker 1: a piece deal that could be brokeered might involve China

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Speaker 1: starting to step away for just a short period of

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Speaker 1: time from purchasing Russian oil because Trump brought the hammer

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Speaker 1: down on India, and to be fair, a lot of

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Speaker 1: this Russian oil embargo is complete bs by which I

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Speaker 1: mean people say, oh, we're not going to buy Russian oil.

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Speaker 1: They're invading Ukraine. This is unacceptable, and so Russia share

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Speaker 1: sells the oil to India at a discount. India then

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Speaker 1: rest of the world. It's a ridiculous shell AGAUS. It's

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Speaker 1: not a bad business for India, right because they're getting

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Speaker 1: reduced oil gas cost and then they're able to still

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Speaker 1: sell at a reduced price as the middleman. But this

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Speaker 1: whole idea that we've cut off Russia's outlets to the

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Speaker 1: rest of the world with their oil is a total

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Speaker 1: shell game. And Trump has recognized it. He's put the

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Speaker 1: pressure on India. Now, will China bend in any way?

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Speaker 1: Because really, if you want to curtail the financial might

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Speaker 1: of Russia. You have to end a fake game. Here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing they could do, and there has been

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Speaker 1: some discussion about this, much of it in Europe. Start

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Speaker 1: letting Europe use all of the frozen Russian assets that

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Speaker 1: have been seized in overseas bank accounts to pay for

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Speaker 1: the war against Russia. That to me is something that

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Speaker 1: could get Putin's attention in a significant way as well.

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Speaker 1: I think Buckett is around two hundred or three hundred

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Speaker 1: billion dollars that has been seized in Russian assets in

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Speaker 1: European banks by and large. And if you just give

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Speaker 1: buy all the weaponry that you want, and we'll let

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Speaker 1: Russia fund the war directly against Russia, I think that

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Speaker 1: feels like to me a significant step that should be taken.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot here that could be done. Again,

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Speaker 2: I think Trump is going to have to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the talking about it to Putin,

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Speaker 2: even from President Trump, is going to result in any

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Speaker 2: real change here. That's just based on how this has

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Speaker 2: gone so far. I would also say one of the

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Speaker 2: in my discussions with the Taiwanese leadership in Taipei. One

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Speaker 2: of the challenges is that even when America now wants

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Speaker 2: can defend themselves, we run into problems. We don't have

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Speaker 2: the World War Two all of the above. What was

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Speaker 2: We don't have that economy anymore for understandable reasons, but

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Speaker 2: that's not the situation we are in. So we can't

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Speaker 2: even ramp up the production of some of even things

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Speaker 2: here as well. So we can give them more advanced systems,

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Speaker 2: but just giving them part of the problem is that

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Speaker 2: Russia can just put more men and materiel on the

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Speaker 2: battlefield with a whole lot more in reserve, and our

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Speaker 2: ability to try to match them for the Ukrainians in

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Speaker 2: any meaningful way is constrained by we can't make the

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Speaker 2: stuff fast enough. Yeah, so that's another problem that we're

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Speaker 2: running up against here. You know, and you can't just

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Speaker 2: build advanced factories to make whatever it is, you know,

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Speaker 2: the various missile systems. There used to be a lot

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Speaker 2: more defense contractors. There were dozens in the I think

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Speaker 2: they're just a handful that are the major defense contractors.

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Speaker 2: And they're not going to operate at a loss with

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Speaker 2: capacity they don't use, so they're just churning out what

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Speaker 2: So we had some interesting stuff going on the political

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, I'm not gonna say that

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Speaker 1: read it. Top Democrats in Pennsylvania are maneuvering to run

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Speaker 1: against Senator John Fetterman in a twenty twenty eight primary contest,

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Speaker 1: threatening to tear the party apart in the biggest battleground

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Speaker 1: state in the nation. Axios is Holly otterbeinn rights potential

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Speaker 1: Democrat challengers bashing Fetterman years ahead of schedule. They think

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Speaker 1: that it could be Representative Brendan Boyle, Chris Deluzio, Connor

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Speaker 1: Lamb and they are already running ads. They are already ripping.

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Speaker 1: This is funny. When Axios began reporting this story, Fetterman

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Speaker 1: texted back in response, enjoy your clickbait. Ask to follow

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Speaker 1: up question. Fetterman responded, please do not contact.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 1: This is where they are. They demand total agreement on

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Speaker 1: all issues. How does this play out? Buck so Fetterman,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight still a ways away, but Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 1: going to be a battleground. If they truly primary him,

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Speaker 1: it would be nasty, it would be expensive. It would

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Speaker 1: be I think beneficial to the Republican Party in a

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Speaker 1: big way because it keeps the Democrats from uniting in

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Speaker 1: maybe the most important state still in twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: there's no pathway to the presidency for Democrats if they

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Speaker 1: don't win Pennsylvania. How does this play out? Where do

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Speaker 1: you think we go from here? Did they end up

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Speaker 1: coming together and singing Kumbaya and the challenges don't happen.

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Speaker 1: Or is Fetterman on the Tulsa Gabbard path even if

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Speaker 1: he himself potentially does not recognize it.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I would say, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I love watching democrats fight. You know, this is this

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Speaker 2: is fantastic when democrats are going after democrats. You just

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Speaker 2: get to get to take out that popcorn, you know,

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Speaker 2: you get to if your clay, kick back with a

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Speaker 2: mountain dew even and really enjoy it. Right, So it's

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Speaker 2: it's so good and and you can just watch and

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Speaker 2: have a great time. I think that the likelihood here

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Speaker 2: is that Democrats will back off of this because it

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Speaker 2: would be so disruptive in a critical state. I think

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania by population is the fifth largest state in the

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Speaker 2: country and obviously the biggest purple state in the country.

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Speaker 2: Right am I missing one my population?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think of the toss up state you are correct,

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Speaker 1: and is the biggest prize. It's the biggest prize, so right,

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Speaker 1: Number one is California by population. Number one is California.

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Speaker 1: Number two is Texas. Number three is Florida. Number four

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Speaker 1: is New York. Number five is Pennsylvania. I think, so

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, they don't want to blow their

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Speaker 1: own hand off, so to speak. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: they want to not do something crazy here. But it

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Speaker 1: does show a few things.

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Speaker 2: It shows that the Democrats cannot rein in their left wing. Really,

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Speaker 2: the left wing is the base now right, it's actually

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Speaker 2: the moderates who the Democrats are trying to play kate.

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Speaker 2: The left wing of the party is the party and

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Speaker 2: people who are more centrist or you know, the old

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Speaker 2: union guy who's been voting Democrat for forty or fifty

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Speaker 2: years or whatever. The Democrat Party is now just set

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Speaker 2: up to try to fool that person. That's the Joe

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Speaker 2: Scarborough I mean, sorry, Joe Biden. Well maybe Joe Scarborough too.

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Speaker 2: Scraw Biden thirteen is Scranton, Joe right, with the lunch

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Speaker 2: panel on the Chew Chew train. The whole thing, that

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Speaker 2: whole scam that they ran with Biden is meant to

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Speaker 2: make old school Democrats think that they still have a

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Speaker 2: place in this current party. And that's even I think

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Speaker 2: that goes to the shutdown Clay. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: another press conference with Speaker Johnson this morning. I'm enjoying

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Speaker 2: these press conferences as I drink my cross.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're watching them, because I'm just completely tuned

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Speaker 1: out of mind.

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Speaker 2: I know you told me you're not into it, so

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I guess one of us is going

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Speaker 2: to watch these. So I'm sitting there watching and he says,

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Speaker 2: this is not your daddy's daddy's Democrat party to everybody,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's absolutely true, and the data you

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Speaker 2: could pull together for that is.

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Speaker 3: Irrefutable in my mind.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that they're trying to hold things up

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Speaker 2: now to make sure that there's all these Obamacare subsidies.

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Speaker 2: The Obamacare experiment is a failure. That's one part of

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Speaker 2: this that I wish people would spend more time on.

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Speaker 2: But beyond that, it's like Russia with the oil. If

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Speaker 2: California is getting all these crazy federal dollars just shoveled

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Speaker 2: to it for healthcare, well, of course, California can cover

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Speaker 2: illegals as part of its state health care program because

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Speaker 2: the money is fungible, right, And so this is where

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Speaker 2: Democrats are being completely disingenuous when they're holding up the government.

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Speaker 2: They are holding up the government because they don't want

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Speaker 2: any cuts to funding because they know that the first

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Speaker 2: thing that they would have to cut in places like

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Speaker 2: California is covering health care for illegals. They're not gonna

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Speaker 2: They're not going to cut Medicare recipients or something. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a you know, they first of all,

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Speaker 2: they can at the state level, So it's the illegals

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Speaker 2: and those programs that would get trimmed. And I think

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Speaker 2: that someone like John Fetterman is in some ways, at

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Speaker 2: least ideologically more of a more more of a throwback

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Speaker 2: to that old Democrat party, although I know he's voting

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Speaker 2: to keep the government shut down. So that's you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to watch these guys, man, They're wiley, They're

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Speaker 2: some of these You look at someone like, what's isn't

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Speaker 2: he had the book that just came out Joe Manchin,

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Speaker 2: Yeah Man dead Center or a clever title that was

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Speaker 2: I'm giving his book a plug.

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Speaker 3: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, He's a guy who you think is really reasonable

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Speaker 2: until the Democrats put enough pressure on him and then

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Speaker 2: it becomes very unreasonable.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the problem is that Fetterman is

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Speaker 1: still ninety four percent I think likely to have supported

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Speaker 1: Democrat positions, But it doesn't take much to be the

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Speaker 1: most reasonable Democrat. I can't even think of who the

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Speaker 1: second most reasonable Democrat is right now.

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Speaker 3: You know what? You know what this is, though. I

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Speaker 3: think they're going to.

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Speaker 2: Wait out all of the heat from the Democrat left

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Speaker 2: on the Israel issue is going to die down, and

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Speaker 2: they're hoping that that's what happens here, I think, and

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Speaker 2: then Fetterman won't. Then Fetterman will be he'll be voting

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Speaker 2: for big spending and you know, he'll be there's a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of things that he'll be right in line

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Speaker 2: with the Democrats on. So they'll go back to being

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Speaker 2: okay with him in that purple state. I just think

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Speaker 2: right now there's all this sensitivity from the lunatic left

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Speaker 2: about Israel and the end of this war. And I

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Speaker 2: would also note whatever happened to hearing all about the

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Speaker 2: genocide and the starvation, and there was no starvation there.

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Speaker 2: It was no genocide. And I think people who were

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Speaker 2: saying those things should be ashamed, yes, or they should

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Speaker 2: just be they should be embarrassed for being so foolish

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Speaker 2: and so we easily misled. But people who were saying

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Speaker 2: that who knew it wasn't true should be absolutely ashamed.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm seeing a lot of people say, now,

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Speaker 2: well it wasn't It wasn't starvation play in Gaza, it

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Speaker 2: was food insecurity. Do you know how many people in

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Speaker 2: America are considered food insecure? Yeah, fifty million. Fifty million

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Speaker 2: Americans are food insecure. There's a world of difference between

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Speaker 2: food insecure whatever that means, and starving to death, which

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Speaker 2: is what we were told was happening and was not happening.

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Speaker 2: And Fetterman, to his credit, knew it wasn't happening and said,

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Speaker 2: so well.

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean there is no one even who is

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Speaker 1: food insecure in the United States that is starving. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a lot of those people who would count as food

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Speaker 1: insecure are severely ovario, right, Yes they are. They are

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Speaker 1: very fat, and so I mean that's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: For history, people out there. Being fat used to be

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Speaker 1: a sign that you were very wealthy, because there was

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Speaker 1: actual huge food insecurity and lack of food in the

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Speaker 1: Middle Ages and in times such as those. Now, the

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Speaker 1: poorer you are, the fatter you are in general in

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Speaker 1: the United States, which is a sign that you have

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Speaker 1: access to plenty of food. Maybe not the healthiest food

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Speaker 1: the options that you're choosing, but you are not in

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Speaker 1: any way in danger of actually starving. And there are

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Speaker 1: very few people that I've seen in Gaza. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know who's actually food insecure? Were the hostages. I

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Speaker 1: mean they lost a lot of weight, they were skinning

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Speaker 1: bones when they were released on Monday.

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Speaker 2: They were being starved. They were being starved, yes, and

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Speaker 2: they're stuh Christian, I'm on poor saying that, oh the

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Speaker 2: average hotes. You had to apologize for this on CNN,

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Speaker 2: but the average hostage was treated basically as bad as

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Speaker 2: the average person living in Gaza. And then she you

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Speaker 2: saw that clip, right, I mean she I did not,

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Speaker 2: and she is a vile moro on though, and a

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Speaker 1: Pull that clip, Greg if you would. Because we didn't

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Speaker 1: I misspoke. I want you to hear it, because I

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Speaker 1: but let's play that audio because I do not believe

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Speaker 2: and let's get into this. Ohthough you mentioned this, I'll

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Speaker 1: Do you want to do the call?

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Speaker 3: Do you going to Christianna. It's up to you.

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Speaker 1: Let's call and then and then we'll do them on

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Speaker 1: a Christy Talk.

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Speaker 2: I'm poor, the fanciest accent ever to be on television.

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Speaker 2: Eric in Panama City Beach, Florida wants to chat with us.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? My friend?

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Speaker 6: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. You know it's so funny. I

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Speaker 6: don't believe in coincidences, but I'm driving on Front Beach

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Speaker 6: Road in Panama City Beach, and Clay says no, I'm

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Speaker 6: in the Panhandle. Oh, I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I'm in.

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Speaker 6: I had to pull over and call. I am a

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Speaker 6: born and bred in New Yorker, born and raised there,

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Speaker 6: live there now. But I'm down here house hunting on

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Speaker 6: the on the Panhandle because I've had enough. I'm a

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Speaker 6: minority member, English speaking, heterosexual, male, right conservative Jew, So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I've had enough. The people down here are the nicest, sweetest,

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Speaker 6: most polite, family oriented. It's amazing, it really is. I

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Speaker 6: was talking to some of the police officers here. Zero troubles,

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Speaker 6: you know. So I just want to tell you a

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Speaker 6: couple of things. The other day you had mentioned you

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Speaker 6: were talking about what's the percentage of the Jewish vote

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Speaker 6: that well, you know, was for common and all that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, welcome to God's Country, the Gulf Coast

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Speaker 1: of Florida and we will break down Mom, Donnie and

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Speaker 1: Moore next