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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well goodness, my name is a cole.

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Speaker 3: Then we got Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: and we got tear it eagle through. It threw me off,

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Speaker 3: I know, I was like, whoa, goodness, guys, we got

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Speaker 3: a win over here. We got to come back to

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Speaker 3: Oxnar with a win against the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We got to start with the offense. So I'll start

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Speaker 3: with you Patrick. It seems like this offense, with Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance stepping up big took a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, First of all, I don't care about wins

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, so let me put that out there

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Speaker 1: right now. However, that being said, it's definitely a morale

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Speaker 1: booster for Trey Lance to be able to go out there,

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Speaker 1: look at the film some of the errors that he

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Speaker 1: made against the Los Angeles Rams and repair those. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it took a little while for him to

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Speaker 1: get started. He's kind of suffering that cold start syndrome

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Speaker 1: first quarter, third quarter. But once he settled in, and

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Speaker 1: he tended to settle in more frequently than he did

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Speaker 1: against the Los Angeles Rams, he was making the throws

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Speaker 1: that he needed to make. He was running and using

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Speaker 1: his legs when he needed to as opposed to using

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Speaker 1: it as a reason to not make the throw. So

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Speaker 1: the timeliness was there, decisiveness was there. He trusted his

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Speaker 1: arm more, he pulled the trigger, and his receivers they

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Speaker 1: helped him out. Ryan Flinoy, for example. You saw some

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Speaker 1: other guys Kelvin Harmon continues to step up. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, great outing by Trey Lance when

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Speaker 1: compared to what happened in Los Angeles. Was it perfect? No,

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Speaker 1: And I continue to be impressed with his maturity and accountability.

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Speaker 1: Talk to him after the game. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that he said was, I left a lot of players

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Speaker 1: on the field that tells me he's looking to improve

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Speaker 1: going into the charges for now.

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Speaker 5: Now I've we said it on Talking Cowboys, I think

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Speaker 5: last week where it's like a preseason l doesn't really

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Speaker 5: matter in the grand scheme of things, but a preseason.

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Speaker 1: W I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 6: I'll see you at the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, yeah, don't be that guy.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: I like what I saw of the both offensive defensive lines,

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Speaker 5: Tyler Guidon, Cooper BB almost playing an entire half of football.

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Speaker 5: Great snaps, Cooper BB beating two guys from I think

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Speaker 5: on the very first play, and Nick Eatman told me

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Speaker 5: a story about Derek and Nick in that first that

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Speaker 5: first snap, you watching Cooper BB, him watching Tyler Guid

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Speaker 5: and just being impressed and having to.

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Speaker 4: Go back and watch the other the other player.

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Speaker 5: On that same snap, and just it's it's it gives

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's hilarious because I actually I looked over at

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Speaker 7: Nick and I was like.

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Speaker 1: Did you see you?

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Speaker 7: And he was like did you see And we were

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Speaker 7: both like, Okay, let's go back and watch the other guy,

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Speaker 7: and both of us were equally impressed when we watched

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Speaker 7: the other guy as we were with the guy that

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Speaker 7: we mentioned.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it was a good game.

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Speaker 7: It was a lot of things that in that game

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Speaker 7: that you look at and you're like, Okay, we're starting.

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Speaker 1: To starting to cook a little bit. I kind of

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Speaker 7: For And I don't know if I don't want to

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Speaker 7: jump too far ahead if we're going to talk about

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Speaker 7: Trey Lance and death.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to be a player. I know

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Speaker 1: how it is when you're hosting.

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Speaker 7: I don't like people starting to take my show and

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Speaker 7: take it the wrong direction.

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Speaker 8: I want you to follow me. So I'm just trying

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Speaker 8: to make time.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, no, but I mean when I when I look

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Speaker 7: at Trey Lance, my big thing about him is from

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Speaker 7: last week to this week, I think we all saw

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Speaker 7: an improvement. Right, question becomes do we run out of

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Speaker 7: likelihood is he doesn't play another down until this season

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Speaker 7: is over. And if that's the case, have the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: seen enough to be able to make a decision he's

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Speaker 7: a free agent? Have they made enough to have seen that?

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Speaker 7: Have they seen enough to be able to make a decision.

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Speaker 7: Have other teams around the league seen enough to be

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Speaker 7: able to make a decision. Has Trey gotten to the

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Speaker 7: point where he's able to really show the best of

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Speaker 7: him yet?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: And I think I'm starting to see things I like,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I see enough. And that's the

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Speaker 7: problem I have right now for Trey is how do

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Speaker 7: you get him to that point?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna run out of time? Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I see three things on the table for what the

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Speaker 9: Cowboys can do with Trey Lance. One, they see enough

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Speaker 9: from him this preseason to make him QB two on

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Speaker 9: this roster in twenty twenty four. Option number two, they

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Speaker 9: don't see enough to make him QB two now, but

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Speaker 9: with all three quarterbacks having expiring contracts going into next offseason,

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Speaker 9: they see an opportunity to bring him back and make

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Speaker 9: him QB two after this season. And the third option

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Speaker 9: is to see what kind of value he can raise

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Speaker 9: for himself and see what that looks like out on

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Speaker 9: the old market after this preseason.

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Speaker 4: So they do have the luxury of options.

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Speaker 9: And I think whenever you look at Trey Lance as

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Speaker 9: a backup quarterback option, you have to kind of look

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Speaker 9: at it From a holistic perspective, what do you want

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Speaker 9: in a backup quarterback? You want reliability and you want

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Speaker 9: something that he can bring to the table. He hasn't

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Speaker 9: turned the ball over in two games, and he brings

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Speaker 9: for an injured Dak Presscott or anything like that. I

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Speaker 9: think Cooper Rush is still your guy. But Cooper Rush

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Speaker 9: is over thirty years old. Now you have to look

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Speaker 9: at the youth that Trey Lance brings and again the athleticism.

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Speaker 4: He showed it yesterday.

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Speaker 9: He had the rushing touchdown, He had a couple of

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Speaker 9: Reid option plays that are very specific to him in

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Speaker 9: that offense. You're not gonna see Dak Prescott at Cooper

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Speaker 9: Rush run those plays. And so I really liked what

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Speaker 9: Like as that second half went on, you could really

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Speaker 4: And again, no turnovers.

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Speaker 9: I think that's what you're looking for if you're evaluating

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Speaker 3: My next question to you is kind of what Derek

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Speaker 3: value his upside right what you see in the foreseeable

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Speaker 3: Do you think that his value future wise is higher

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Speaker 3: than what Cooper Rush brings right now? What's your thoughts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's tough.

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Speaker 9: I think Cooper, excuse me, Trey Lance, I think he

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Speaker 9: does have a deeper tool bag. You know, he's I

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Speaker 9: think he has the better arm whenever he can use it.

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Speaker 9: The touch isn't quite there. I think Coop's got the

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Speaker 9: better touch. Obviously, Trey Lance has the better athleticism, so

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Speaker 9: it can kind of open up a Mike McCarthy offense

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Speaker 9: into some some other things. But I think if I

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Speaker 9: I'd probably make the decision to bring him back as

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Speaker 9: a backup past twenty twenty four. You know, let Cooper

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Speaker 9: Rush be that QB two this year. This is just

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Speaker 9: my evaluation right now. There's still one preseason game left,

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Speaker 9: But let Cooper Rush be that QB two this year

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Speaker 9: and then you know, you bring back Trey Lance and

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Speaker 9: make him the QB two of the future.

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Speaker 1: I like that, and I would add to that you

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Speaker 1: have to take into to account the free market variable. Well,

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Speaker 1: so let's say Trey Lance goes and you know, significantly

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Speaker 1: So now he's boosted his value and he leaves leaves

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Speaker 1: the season on a high note because, like Derek said,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to take another snap until next season,

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Speaker 1: be it with the Cowboys in preseason or with another team,

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have the issue of their knock

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Speaker 1: didn't say it starter, but then you can it is.

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Speaker 1: But then you have the issue I should say, the

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance more money for QB two than the Dallas

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Speaker 1: And that's what that's the note that he leaves on

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Speaker 1: this August so that's definitely on the table. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: the past several seasons under Mike McCarthy, they've been trying

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Speaker 1: to get that developmental quarterback. This is their developmental quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They give it before fourth round pick to get him,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to using a fourth round pick in the

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Speaker 1: I think that goes to Nick Harris's one of Nick

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Speaker 1: Harris's options in that I don't see right now that

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Speaker 1: he has beaten out Cooper Rush. I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: He would have to have an unbelievable game against the

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Speaker 1: Charges for that to happen. I think this is more

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Speaker 1: so the long game, Dak Prescott's contract notwithstanding, because I

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Speaker 1: think that gets done. But I think you're looking at

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Speaker 1: the plan being Trey Lance, being QB two and twenty five.

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Speaker 9: Question, what did you spend a fourth round pick on

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Speaker 9: a quarterback that you would only have for two years

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Speaker 9: instead of four. That's that's where I'm like, Okay, where's

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Speaker 9: the value.

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Speaker 1: When they gave up the fourth pick.

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Speaker 7: When they gave the fourth round pick, I don't know

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Speaker 7: that that was the equation I think I think more

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Speaker 7: I know that that's an expensive cost just to see,

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Speaker 7: but that's what you're doing. You're paying to be able

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Speaker 7: to see if the guy has a future. And if

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Speaker 7: you find out that he has a future, then you

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Speaker 7: have options. You can either say he could be our guy.

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Speaker 7: You could say, hey, rest of the NFL, or you

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Speaker 7: quarterback star of teams, we have a guy that we

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Speaker 7: think might be good for you. What are you willing

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Speaker 7: to give us for him? And then you leverage that

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Speaker 7: fourth in some great you know cosmos, you get it

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Speaker 7: Like when you go into games and it's a job,

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Speaker 1: This is fun. It's hard.

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Speaker 7: I don't care. I got a capable starting quarterback, that

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I love what he brought. You talked about that

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Speaker 5: And I'll do it to bro Kauffman for making that

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Speaker 7: What I always do when you look at Cooper BB

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Speaker 7: I'll do realize what y'all doing here, right yea, y'all

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Speaker 7: offensive you think about it, you think about it. And

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Speaker 7: we have talked so much about Tyler Guiden, We have

441
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Speaker 7: talked so much about Cooper Bebe over the last few days.

442
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Speaker 7: We obviously going back to drafting. Obviously, Tyler Smith is

443
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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith. You've got Zach Martin, Terrence Steele, whatever you

444
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Speaker 7: think of Terrence Steele. The fact is the Cowboys have

445
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Speaker 7: in a very very short period of time, if this

446
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Speaker 7: plays out the way that they are being talked about

447
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Speaker 7: right now, they have rebuilt their offensive line and they

448
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Speaker 7: are able now to sustain the possibility of someone like

449
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Speaker 7: Zach Martin moving on if he chooses to do so

450
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Speaker 7: in the next year to three years, because not only that,

451
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Speaker 7: you've got bad people behind him like TJ. Bass, who

452
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Speaker 7: you really like. You got Hawk Hall who you really like.

453
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Speaker 7: You've got guys awesome Richards who you really like they

454
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Speaker 7: have remade this offensive line. And yes, they've had some

455
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Speaker 7: first round picks in there, they've also had some other

456
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Speaker 7: picks that are not first round picks that they've turned

457
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Speaker 7: into what looks like they may be players. Now again,

458
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Speaker 7: I think you have to be you have to I

459
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Speaker 7: want to caution fan slow down just a bit, because

460
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Speaker 7: Guidon and and BB have not taken NFL SNA snaps

461
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Speaker 7: in a regular season game, so we just don't know.

462
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Speaker 1: What we're seeing.

463
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Speaker 7: Tells us that there are some positive signs and that

464
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Speaker 7: we think there may be some some real positive signs

465
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Speaker 7: of these guys can be players in the NFL. But

466
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Speaker 7: if this turns out the way it's looking right now, man,

467
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Speaker 7: Will McLay, you did your.

468
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Speaker 1: Thing, brou I think, objectively, fans should be excited. This

469
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Speaker 1: is not us using hyperbole. This is us five having

470
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Speaker 1: seen these young men from the draft, through rookie minie camp,

471
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Speaker 1: through mandatory Mini camp, and now through training camp and

472
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Speaker 1: through two preseason games, and we're sitting here objectively saying

473
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Speaker 1: first handful of practices for Cooper BB, the snap wasn't there,

474
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Speaker 1: it was here, it was there, was there. He needed

475
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Speaker 1: to get that down. Brock Hoffman had him leaps and bounds.

476
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Speaker 1: But now in that same breath, we can honestly sit

477
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Speaker 1: here and say, based on the analysis that he's closed

478
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Speaker 1: that gap and he's taken the lead. Now will that

479
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Speaker 1: lead be grown by what happens against the Los Angeles Chargers?

480
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Speaker 1: Quite possibly, But if Brock Kaufman has a good game

481
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Speaker 1: and BB takes a step back, then we'll reevaluate next week.

482
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Speaker 1: In fact of the matter is between Gut and Cooper BB.

483
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Speaker 1: We talk about work ethic on Cooper BB, Tyler Guidan

484
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Speaker 1: as well. Both of these young men have dedicated their

485
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Speaker 1: entire off season to becoming NFL starters, not week seven,

486
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Speaker 1: not week twelve, week one of this regular season. I

487
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Speaker 1: can't point out something real quick.

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Speaker 7: Today I was walking over by our little tent where

489
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Speaker 7: we work. I went over there because I had to

490
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Speaker 7: give me Dr Pepper. I was like Feena and Pepper,

491
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Speaker 7: So I went over.

492
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Speaker 4: There givings.

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Speaker 1: Docror.

494
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Speaker 8: Pepper is always involved in everything to do around there,

495
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Speaker 8: but I was Feenie.

496
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Speaker 1: I went over to get it.

497
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Speaker 7: Look out on the field day after a game, who's

498
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Speaker 7: out there working? And I was like, man, that says

499
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Speaker 7: everything I need to know about that young man.

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Speaker 1: He just played a game yesterday.

501
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Speaker 7: And usually you come off a game, and he played

502
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Speaker 7: the whole first half. You come off a game, your

503
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Speaker 7: body needs a little bit of a break. You take

504
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Speaker 7: that little bit of a break.

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Speaker 1: You know. That wasn't like he was out there. He

506
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Speaker 1: was working.

507
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Speaker 7: And I was like, and by the way, by himself.

508
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Speaker 7: It was like he was out there working anyone else.

509
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Speaker 7: He's out there by work, himself, working by himself. I

510
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Speaker 7: just I love that.

511
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Speaker 1: I love that work.

512
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Speaker 8: Honestly, I didn't wait around to see sometimes.

513
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Speaker 7: Not only that, not only that, but I did want

514
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Speaker 7: and as you got, as you guys know, I love food, right,

515
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Speaker 7: What I also did say is I have food in

516
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Speaker 7: my hands, and so I run over get a drink.

517
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Speaker 7: And I was like, I could wait around and see

518
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Speaker 7: or I could go eat. I go, all right, bro,

519
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Speaker 7: I saw you working. That's all I need to see working.

520
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Speaker 7: I just didn't see that for camping out right. Yeah,

521
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Speaker 7: you're doing your thing, work out.

522
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Speaker 9: The one thing on Tyler Guiden, it looked great yesterday.

523
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Speaker 4: Once again.

524
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Speaker 9: The one thing that I would like to see him

525
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Speaker 9: improve upon is you know, he's got this link, he's

526
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Speaker 9: got this power. He does a good job of using it.

527
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Speaker 9: But his hands are come so wide out on out

528
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Speaker 9: on the edge. That's gonna that's gonna bite him in

529
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Speaker 9: the butt at some point during the season. You know,

530
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Speaker 9: a guy like Miles Garrett who's a power rusher, he's

531
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Speaker 9: gonna come right in the middle of those hands and

532
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Speaker 9: it's gonna knock him back a little bit. So I

533
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Speaker 9: want to see him bring those hands in a little

534
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Speaker 9: bit more. He just gets so wide that he almost

535
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Speaker 9: gets around like the biceps of edge rushers. I want

536
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Speaker 9: to see him get up in the chest played a

537
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Speaker 9: little bit. That's the that's the only knock that I

538
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Speaker 9: really had from yesterday's game.

539
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Speaker 1: Or like an exceptional speed rushing like a T. J.

540
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Speaker 1: Wattle get him off the edge and then it becomes

541
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Speaker 1: like a holding penalty because you're wide and then your

542
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Speaker 1: arm gets away and it's yellow flags.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll see all kinds of things that think sometimes

544
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Speaker 7: with him where you're like, ooh, that didn't look like

545
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Speaker 7: it was textbook. But that's also the thing. He's so

546
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Speaker 7: athletic and so strong and so long. He has a

547
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Speaker 7: way to recover. Like sometimes you'll see him he kind

548
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Speaker 7: of gets over, leaning over too far as not back

549
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Speaker 7: into his set and and he still doesn't get beat.

550
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Speaker 7: He has a way to kind of recover. I'm like,

551
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Speaker 7: when he figures that part out, oh my gosh. Like,

552
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Speaker 7: if he has enough athleticism and strength to be able

553
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Speaker 7: to overcompensate for that, then then that's a good thing

554
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Speaker 7: right now in his career because he's by the way,

555
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Speaker 7: he's gonna face some pass rushers that are going to

556
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Speaker 7: give him some problems this year if he's the starter,

557
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Speaker 7: because that's just the nature of coming into the NFL.

558
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Speaker 6: Well, he had snaps yesterday with Max Cross.

559
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Speaker 1: Absolutely did. Yeah, it made Max, which Max won't say.

560
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Speaker 1: That's why Max went over to the other side.

561
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Speaker 4: So he made a play on the other side that

562
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Speaker 4: he did not make.

563
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Speaker 1: And we've seen Tyler gut out here in camp. And

564
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Speaker 1: i mean, obviously Michael Parsons can be rather unstoppable at

565
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Speaker 1: several points against whomever you line him up against. But

566
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Speaker 1: the fact that and in full speed reps, there were

567
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Speaker 1: times where Tyler got In walled him off even after

568
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Speaker 1: losing on the initial move from Michael Parsons, which goes

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Speaker 1: to your point, Derek, it's the footwork of Tyler got

570
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Speaker 1: and so his basketball background keep in mind Tyler gott

571
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Speaker 1: And didn't get switched to football until high school. Right

572
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Speaker 1: late in high school, he was already he thought he

573
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Speaker 1: was going to be an NBA player, That's what he

574
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Speaker 1: was aspiring to be. So that footwork that you're seeing,

575
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Speaker 1: it's translating from the hardwood over to the grid iron.

576
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Speaker 3: And you see obviously the respect is there from Michael too,

577
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Speaker 3: because you see them dapping each other up after after

578
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Speaker 3: he may have him beat You know who wasn't dapping

579
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Speaker 3: him up, Jared vers I.

580
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Speaker 1: Was actually a fun battle to wist. That was a

581
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Speaker 1: fun battle.

582
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Speaker 3: Another fun battle to watch is actually that running back battle. Guys.

583
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Speaker 3: It's getting up and not many people are talking.

584
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Speaker 10: About it, like somebody, go ahead, you would do that,

585
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Speaker 10: I'll do the one job nowhere Yet I did.

586
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Speaker 3: We got a chance to see all the guys though

587
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: in action yesterday. The rest come on now tighten up

588
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: here the book just at.

589
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Speaker 1: That's sorry, just don't worry about it. You good.

590
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, But nobody.

591
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Speaker 1: Dot com you want you don't watch naked in afraid

592
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Speaker 1: to see the bugs protein. Yeah, that is nasty.

593
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Speaker 4: I couldn't have said like Survivor mansus, But no, guys.

594
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Speaker 3: We got a chance to see all the running backs

595
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Speaker 3: in action aside from Ezekiel, Elliott, Enrico, o'donald, those guys

596
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: are bubble wrapped in that game. But when you talk

597
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Speaker 3: about how crucial was that for him to have a

598
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Speaker 3: performance like that, Derek, I'll start with you.

599
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Speaker 7: I think it was very important because that's I think

600
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Speaker 7: the one thing that I believe of this running back

601
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Speaker 7: by Committee group that they have. The one thing I

602
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 7: keep saying is or keep thinking, is who's going to

603
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 7: give him the juice? Like, who's gonna give him Who's

604
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Speaker 7: that guy that's going to provide those runs that can

605
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Speaker 7: really make a defense be really afraid of what he

606
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Speaker 7: can do. I think he can beat up on a defense,

607
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Speaker 7: and that's what his role is going to be.

608
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Speaker 1: I think Rico Donald's a good running back.

609
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Speaker 7: And I said on our show last week, I was like,

610
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Speaker 7: I really believe that if Rico stays healthy, I think

611
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Speaker 7: Rico can have the kind of season where he'll be

612
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Speaker 7: up there a top ten running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: I really believe that the question for him has always

614
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Speaker 7: been can he stay healthy? And this is the opportunity

615
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Speaker 7: that he's going to get to have that kind of

616
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Speaker 7: workload where he can actually be one of those top

617
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Speaker 7: ten running backs. So if he stays healthy, I think

618
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Speaker 7: he can do that. The question still becomes, who's your

619
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Speaker 7: guy that really puts fear in the defense, because at

620
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Speaker 7: any given moment, he can break a big run, he

621
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Speaker 7: can do something special. If Duce can do that, if

622
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Speaker 7: they can get him to do that, and again it

623
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Speaker 7: doesn't have to be all the time.

624
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Speaker 1: If you can get him a few.

625
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Speaker 7: Times a game where he does something special, I think

626
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Speaker 7: that can be what this running back by committee needs.

627
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Speaker 7: And I think that makes it work because you've got

628
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Speaker 7: now all the pieces are are laid out there as

629
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Speaker 7: far as the different running backs and what the roles are.

630
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Speaker 5: By saying top ten in the NFL, are you thinking

631
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Speaker 5: that he has more yards than Zeke does at the

632
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Speaker 5: end of the.

633
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Speaker 1: Year, Uh, yes, I do.

634
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Speaker 7: I do, because I honestly the way I look at Zeke,

635
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Speaker 7: I think Zeke's that kind of running back that and

636
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Speaker 7: I don't know if the Cowboys will use him in

637
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 7: the way of, you know, pound the defense early, and

638
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 7: then that gives you a situation where later in the

639
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 7: game they're kind of there's more opportunity for Rico, or

640
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 7: they go at Rico and then at the end of

641
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 7: the game they're like pounding you because you're tired with Zeke.

642
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 7: I don't really know how they're going to use it,

643
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 7: but I think Zeke is more that guy that just defenses.

644
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Are tired they don't want to have to tackle him.

645
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then but I think Rico my personal belief,

646
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Speaker 7: I think Rico is going to be the lead back

647
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 7: for this team.

648
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it.

649
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 5: Wow wow, And I've got on record thinking that Zeke

650
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 5: would be your red zone solution basically compared to last year,

651
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 5: and seeing Rico get more snap I would be really

652
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 5: surprised if if Rico has more snaps than Zeke or

653
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: carries this year than Zeke.

654
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Speaker 6: But I wouldn't hate to see it.

655
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

656
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 7: I mean the interesting part is right now, you look

657
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Speaker 7: at what they're doing on kickoffs and having Rico back there,

658
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 7: maybe that offsets that maybe they don't have he doesn't

659
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Speaker 7: have as many carries as Zeke because they're also using

660
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Speaker 7: him in kickoffs. Who knows, but I personally believe Rico is,

661
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: in my opinion right now, the running back that I

662
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Speaker 7: think gives you the best chance to do a lot

663
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Speaker 7: of different things. Like his skill set and where he

664
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Speaker 7: is in his career, I think he can do a

665
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Speaker 7: lot of different things, probably more so than any other

666
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Speaker 7: running back on the roster. The question just becomes, as

667
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 7: I said before, can't he stay healthy? That's the big

668
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 7: key for him in my opinion.

669
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Speaker 1: My thing for Deuce Vaughn is number one. It was

670
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: huge for him to have the game he had against

671
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Speaker 1: the Raiders for a couple of reasons. One, he missed

672
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: the preseason opener and several practices surrounding that with the

673
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. We talked to him after the game and

674
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: he said being sidelined by the hamstring injury was the

675
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: first time that he dealt with that kind of soft

676
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: tissue issue sidelining him. So he had to kind of

677
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: keep motivating and throughout that. But he comes back and

678
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: what does he give you? Six point nine yards per

679
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Speaker 1: carry on all five carries and it wasn't explosive plays

680
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: on each one. You had the big explosive play where

681
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: he just absolutely stole the ankles of the defender in

682
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: open space. That can be terrifying for a defender. But

683
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Speaker 1: and I spoke to him about this, I asked him

684
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Speaker 1: about this specifically. He also showed power. There were one

685
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: of those plays where he made the first contact was

686
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: made behind the line of scrimmage. He powers through that guy,

687
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: sheds that guy, goes and powers through another guy and

688
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: pushes him forward for a couple yard game. Those are

689
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Speaker 1: the kind of dirty runs that you wouldn't expect to

690
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: see from Ducevam and he said that that was a

691
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Speaker 1: focus for him this offseason, building up his strength, building

692
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: up his powers, because his power, he said, those dirty

693
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: runs are where the hay is made in the NFL.

694
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Speaker 1: So that's clicking with that young man. But what I

695
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: will say to Derek's point, I think that when you

696
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Speaker 1: look at the totality of the Cowboys running back Droom

697
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: first and foremost, you have to start at the offensive

698
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: line because it was a complimentary failing for lack of

699
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: a biter way to put it as far as why

700
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: the running attack was so pared last week or last

701
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: year to Mike McCarthy's admission, So the offensive line. We're

702
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: giving this praise for the offensive line. We believe it

703
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: will ultimately be what it needs to be. There will

704
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: be some hiccups from BB and Tyler, guy in their rookies.

705
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna get baptized once or twice. Be it Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt,

706
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Speaker 1: one of these other guys. I think they'll hold their own.

707
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Speaker 1: But assuming that the offensive line holds strong and does

708
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Speaker 1: what it needs to do, that's half the battle. The

709
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Speaker 1: other half is who terrifies you in this room if

710
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Speaker 1: you're an opposing defender. There aren't any running backs on

711
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys roster that make me, if I'm the opposing defender,

712
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: say point at them and say that person gives me nightmares.

713
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: This isn't twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen. Ze I think

714
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Speaker 1: Rico Daudo can have a twenty Pollard year breakout type year,

715
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Speaker 1: But until it happens, it's not going to terrify you.

716
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Deuce Vaughan, you need to see more from him. Struggled

717
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: last year and getting on the field when he was

718
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: on the field didn't shocking all like he wanted to,

719
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys wanted him to small sample size, so

720
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Speaker 1: he did against the Raiders like, Okay, I brow up,

721
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Speaker 1: are you terrified? You're not terrified? And it goes from there.

722
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, capable running back, does he scared the one,

723
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Malik Davis capable running back, does he scaredy one? Snow

724
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: kaminate Daniel Pete. He's an undrafted guy. So these guys

725
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: can be impact players, and Zeke will be an impact player.

726
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Rico will be an impact player. But they're not Derrick

727
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Henry right there. They're not those types of they're not

728
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey right those are When I think of running

729
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: backs that give you nightmares before you face them, I'm

730
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: thinking CMC those types of guys. Am I saying that

731
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't have the guy? I'm saying that because

732
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: there's a reason they have guys plural. It is by committee.

733
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: It's going to be Zeke and Rico one A, one

734
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: B on any given week. Week one, Rico might have

735
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: more touches for more yards. Week two, Zeke might have

736
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: more touches for more yards, and vice versa mix and

737
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: some deuce. But they don't have the guy. That's why

738
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: they have several guys. Can I take you back real quick?

739
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw out a name. Some of you may

740
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 7: know the name, some may not. Dave Meggott. Remember Dave Meggotts.

741
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 7: Remember Dave Maggott he was a running back for the

742
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 7: New York Giants back in the Probably I'm guessing this

743
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 7: was the maybe the Bill Parcells was the coach there.

744
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 7: And what I when I talked about I agree with

745
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 7: what you're saying. When I talked about Deuce, Dave Meggett

746
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 7: is the guy that comes to my mind. Again, I'm

747
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 7: not saying Deuce is going to be a terror like

748
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 7: teams are like, oh my gosh, we got to deal

749
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Speaker 7: with him.

750
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Speaker 1: The issue is when you.

751
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 7: Have that little gadget player, that little gadget you can

752
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 7: move around. Yeah, when you can move him around, you

753
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: can do these different things. Now he becomes a matchup issue.

754
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 7: So yes, he may not scare you from the standpoint

755
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 7: of just his overall skills, Like you don't look at

756
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 7: him and be like, this is the best running back

757
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 7: in the league, but you do say, man, this guy

758
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 7: becomes a matchup issue for us because they line him

759
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: up here and it's going to match him up with

760
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Speaker 7: someone or put him in a situation where he has

761
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 7: an advantage because of whatever, right, And I think that's

762
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Speaker 7: where you can create some issues.

763
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Speaker 1: If if he can be.

764
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Speaker 7: The kind of electric player that he was, that's not

765
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Speaker 7: quite Frankly, in my opinion, the best run he had

766
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Speaker 7: last I was a two yard pick up for the

767
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 7: first down. Like that was the run where I was like,

768
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 7: he bulldozed his way to that first down. That's not

769
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Speaker 7: something we saw from him last year. Last year contact

770
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Speaker 7: he went down, that was not what we saw last night.

771
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 7: We saw multiple times where the powle moved after he

772
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Speaker 7: had contact. So if they can get that kind of

773
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: production from him and those electric plays from him, I

774
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 7: think he creates a matchup problem for other teams. And

775
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 7: that's where this running back room can have a little

776
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 7: bit more of that spark than what it has right now.

777
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Speaker 1: And I have a question to follow up on that,

778
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to toss this to Harris and I

779
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: want Josh to wade on this as well. We're talking

780
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: about this running backs room, and as I said, I

781
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: believe any one of these guys can be impactful. I

782
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Speaker 1: believe it's going to be Zeke leading alongside Rico figure

783
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: out how to get Duce mixed in. But Hunter Lipkey,

784
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: I was waiting. I was waiting, waiting, And that's my question.

785
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: How do the Cowboys factor Hunter Lifkey in Because obviously

786
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: he's going to give you some some M nine blocking

787
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: and I formations and power and go situations. But they

788
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: want to utilize him as a receiver out of the

789
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: backfield at times. It's kind of like their pressure release valve.

790
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: What are the handout? What do the splits look like?

791
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: From the Cowboys as far as the Handoffso yeah.

792
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 9: From a hundred, from a hundred lid key perspective, or

793
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 9: are you asking more so in general? Yes, okay, So

794
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Speaker 9: I think I think yesterday I'm gonna go kind of

795
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 9: a round about answer here. I think yesterday told us

796
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 9: a lot about the running back room. Like you can

797
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 9: kind of start to see the picture a little bit

798
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 9: because last week you don't have Deuce Van, you don't

799
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 9: have Royce Freeman, and you go, what is it? Sixteen

800
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 9: carries for forty seven yards just between those two guys yesterday,

801
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 9: twelve carries for sixty six yards. So I think those guys,

802
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, while they have missed

803
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 9: probably about a week and a half each at training

804
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 9: camp due to injuries, those are the guys that are

805
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 9: going to be competing for that quote unquote RB three spot.

806
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 9: I think that's those are the two guys you're looking

807
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 9: at Malik Davis had his opportunities. Snoop Connor has had

808
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 9: the carries, He's had his opportunities. Same with Nathaniel Pete.

809
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 9: When it comes to Hunter Lofkey, I view him as

810
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 9: almost off on an island, just because he's no one

811
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 9: can play his role other than Princeton Fan. I believe

812
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 9: like if Lippy were to get hurt at any point

813
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 9: during the season, it's Princeton Fan that would probably jump

814
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 9: in and fill that role for them. But you look

815
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 9: at Lippy and you see him as a downhill blocker,

816
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 9: lea leading running lanes. You see him split out as

817
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 9: a tight end, which we didn't see a lot of

818
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 9: last year. He's getting out in the receiving game, but

819
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 9: he's also helping get at the point of attack in

820
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 9: the run game. It gets him closer to the line

821
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 9: of scrimmage so that they can get ahead of the

822
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 9: run game a little bit.

823
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Speaker 4: And you all see him in the receiving ends of things.

824
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 9: I think man I always call back to that preseason

825
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 9: game last year against the Raiders where he was so

826
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 9: active in the receiving game.

827
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Speaker 4: He had the receiving touchdown. He's a guy that can

828
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: do a lot.

829
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Speaker 9: Of things, and it's no discredit to the rest of

830
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 9: the running back room, but none of those other guys

831
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 9: can do what he does. So I view him purely

832
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 9: as that full back option and purely as that guy

833
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 9: who's gonna have that roster spot regardless. And then when

834
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 9: I look at the running back pictures specifically we look

835
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 9: at the Kerry split, I think you're maybe looking at majority,

836
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 9: like over fifty percent. I would say to Zeke, you

837
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 9: have Rico Dawdle, who's probably right behind, and then you

838
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 9: have Deuce Slash Royce, who's coming in as a change

839
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 9: of paceback, coming in as that third down back, coming in.

840
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: As that receiving type back.

841
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 9: So looking at those kinds of guys, and I think

842
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 9: that's probably how the carry split from a lipcky respective

843
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 9: as far as carries go one or two a game,

844
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 9: similar to how it was last year. But they're getting

845
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 9: him more active in the receiving game too, so they

846
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 9: want to get the ball in his hands.

847
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: They're just looking for.

848
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 6: More creative ways and to kind of backpel a little bit.

849
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: When we're talking about running backs that you're afraid of,

850
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: I don't think that that's going to happen on this team.

851
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a running back that you're afraid

852
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 5: of necessarily, but by this time or sorry, by Thanksgiving,

853
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 5: I think at least the idea is that you want

854
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 5: to be afraid of this offensive line no matter.

855
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 6: Who's running the ball.

856
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

857
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Speaker 5: And that was a clear indication on how they handled

858
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: the draft and just even looking at them now that

859
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: the talent is there, you want to be afraid of

860
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 5: this offensive line come Thanksgiving.

861
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: And you very well could be if they continue on

862
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: this trajectory and you know, they remain healthy. I can't

863
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: stress that enough because you know, when you look at

864
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: the carousel that the Cowboys had to endure on their

865
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: offensive line last season, which also helped cost them a

866
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: winnable game against the Arizona car it was That's just

867
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: one example. If this Cowboys front five can remain healthy,

868
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: that will help them jail and build chemistry that much

869
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: more quickly to start the season that they will carry

870
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Speaker 1: them through the remainder of the season.

871
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Speaker 7: So I got a question for you guys. Yet, y'all

872
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 7: might know this, y'all might not know this right off hand.

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Speaker 4: Battling. Go ahead, We're good, We're good, We're good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we spent a lot of time talking about the offense.

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Speaker 3: We got to switch gears to the defense before we

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Speaker 3: wrap things up on camping Out. Marshawn Knelan guys.

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Speaker 1: A dude, A dude, A dude.

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Speaker 3: I'll start with Josh this time. I feel like I

928
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: haven't a little bit. What did you think about Marshawn

929
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: nalan In as far as just his past passing situations,

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00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: past rush, Because that's something that I feel like he's

931
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: really improved on as the couple of weeks have really

932
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Speaker 3: uh you know, kind of gone on.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I don't want to, I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but when you saw without a one, but I

935
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Speaker 5: don't want to, I'm gonna does he seem sort of

936
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Speaker 5: like plug and play at this point, like he's kind

937
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Speaker 5: of it seems like he's been there before.

938
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Speaker 7: Going there, man, is he hasn't He hasn't had an

939
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Speaker 7: NFL regular season.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm not going.

941
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 6: There with what we're seeing.

942
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: Does that what we're seeing?

943
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 6: It seems a level of maturity.

944
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 7: To what we're seeing is if this is a this

945
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Speaker 7: is a good college prospect coming into the NFL, that's

946
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Speaker 7: what we're seeing. That's that's all we're seeing right now.

947
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Speaker 7: Once I get to see him against NFL caliber offensive tackles,

948
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Speaker 7: then I can tell you, yes, he is what I

949
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Speaker 7: thought he was gonna be, or he is well above

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Speaker 7: what I thought he was gonna be, or whatever. We

951
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Speaker 7: just I can't say.

952
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Speaker 5: That right so that we can't say the tank comparisons

953
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Speaker 5: can't be there just yet.

954
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Speaker 7: And I can call him a baby tank right now.

955
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Speaker 7: He's a baby tank, right have to. He shows me

956
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Speaker 7: some things that makes me think he could be like Tank.

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Speaker 7: I don't know yet when when I put him into

958
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Speaker 7: a game in a regular season against offensive tackles that

959
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Speaker 7: are some of the best in the league, is he

960
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 7: going to be the same guy? I don't know that.

961
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 5: So so so to clarify the attributes that I see

962
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: out of Marshall Kneeland are run stopping and stopping like like,

963
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: that's what I'm seeing right now so far, And I

964
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: like what I'm seeing. But that's kind of where I'm

965
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: at with him. Yeah, so socially optimistic.

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Speaker 1: More than you thought during draft season. I think that's

967
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Speaker 1: what I was going to go with. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: quite yet that he's plug and play. Does that mean

969
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: that won't change or can't change over the course of

970
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Speaker 1: one week, two weeks, four weeks. Of course it can change,

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Speaker 1: especially with and I love that you mentioned this. His maturity,

972
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Speaker 1: the way he approaches the game, his football acumen, and

973
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: how hungry he is to learn. We heard coach Greg Ellis,

974
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the assistant assistant defensive line coach, say that. Tell us

975
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Speaker 1: a story. One day during the off season. It was

976
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Speaker 1: his day off. He gets a text from Marshawn Kneeland

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Speaker 1: and Marshaan is like, hey, coach, can we watch film?

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Speaker 1: And Greg Allis is like, on one half, it's like,

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Speaker 1: it's my day off, right, and on the other half,

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Speaker 1: you can't. He didn't want to dampen that young man's

981
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Speaker 1: you know, thirst for learning. So what did Greg Ellis do.

982
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: He looked at his wife and said, Hey, I gotta

983
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: go here what he did it again? And I have

984
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Speaker 1: my own story about that because two days later, I'm

985
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Speaker 1: walking from the mele hall over to the field and

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Speaker 1: Greg Allis is coming out of the meeting rooms and

987
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Speaker 1: I hear this voice yell out, hey, coach Greg, and

988
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: he stops. He turns around is Marshawn, And Marshawn's like, hey,

989
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: can we watch a game film? And Coach Ellis is like,

990
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Speaker 1: I'm heading into like the meetings like right now, and

991
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Speaker 1: this is Marshan. He's like, oh okay.

992
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: But after you think like Greg Ellis on the off

993
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: days and wearing a hoodie.

994
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: His food on, that type of hunger and starvation to

995
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Speaker 1: learn and get better is why I believe it will

996
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: be no time at all before Marshaw Kneeling is in

997
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: fact that plug and play guy. But if you're talking

998
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: about instantly coming in and replacing what Sam Williams probably

999
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Speaker 1: was going to give you, I'm with Derek. I'm not

1000
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Speaker 1: there until I see it. Even though I am high

1001
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: on Marshaan Nlan coming out, but I will disagree slightly

1002
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: in one aspect. Run defense absolutely elite. That was his

1003
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: calling card coming out of college. I'm already seeing past

1004
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: rush ability start to blossom. Go back and look at

1005
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: that film against the Raiders. They had such a hard

1006
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: time with him and he wasn't breaking out all the moves.

1007
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: It wasn't spin moves and speed rush bull rush, and

1008
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: he was beating them to the point where you see

1009
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Speaker 1: hold here, no flag, hold here.

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Speaker 4: No.

1011
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's getting the Michael treatment already.

1012
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, the past rush is starting to develop. Is it?

1013
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: Is it Sam Williams level? No? Is it Michael Parson's level?

1014
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: Who's is Is it de Marcus Lawrence prime? De Marcus

1015
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence level? Even though Tank is still playing at the

1016
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Speaker 1: high level. No, not quite yet, but it's developing. In

1017
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: his run defense is already stout. So yeah, I think

1018
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: he can make some he could do some damage.

1019
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 5: And my argument is that he's going to play. He's

1020
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: going to play a lot. I feel like a ton

1021
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: So I mean, so, I mean that is the argument

1022
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: in itself. It is sort but then you also have

1023
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 5: out of necessity and.

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Speaker 1: Also factor in the Carl Lawson variable. That's true, So

1025
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson they bring him in. So yes, marshawn Eland

1026
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: is going to get a ton more snaps than if

1027
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: Sam was here, but maybe not as many as if

1028
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson was not here. On Carl is all. But

1029
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: think about last year.

1030
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 7: We had Fowler and Armstrong here and they all got

1031
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 7: lots of snaps, like there's a rotation they're going to

1032
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 7: work with.

1033
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: So I think both of them are going to get playble.

1034
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: But that was a change though, because well, yeah, ain't

1035
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: quoity in my him and he looked great against the Raiders.

1036
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: But the challenge here is when you look at it

1037
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: comparatively to last year, it was a struggle getting Fouler

1038
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: on the field, for example, So it's a great problem.

1039
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 7: There's also the thing you got to think about though,

1040
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 7: is I think last year Sam for the most part, Yeah,

1041
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 7: for the most For the most part, you had Michael

1042
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 7: last year with his hand on the ground defensive end

1043
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 7: or on the outside of defensive end. And I actually

1044
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 7: think he's gonna move around a little bit more in

1045
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 7: this defense. I think there's gonna be some time they're

1046
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 7: gonna have him just moving around the field, which means

1047
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 7: you're gonna have two other defensive ends on the field.

1048
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: So I think, look at the end of the day.

1049
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna have an opportunity neland's gonna have

1050
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 7: an opportunity to shine.

1051
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: What he does with that will be completely up to him.

1052
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna have some opportunities.

1053
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: The depth of defensive end with al Kady Mahamad, you

1054
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: got Carl Lawson, Marshawn Neeland. Do you feel like that

1055
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: makes up for the loss of Sam Williams.

1056
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: It can, yes, it can, Yeah, it can tbd, and

1057
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: it has to be TBD because while while Carl Lawson

1058
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: was effective last year, what does he look like right now?

1059
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: And he needs to ramp up and he's not quite

1060
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: here yet and we haven't gotten word yet. It was

1061
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: supposed to be the deal signed today. We'll see if

1062
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: that's the case. Nonetheless, they need to ramp him up

1063
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: to get him ready for the regular season. Marshaw Kneeland

1064
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: is a rookie, so he's going to have a rookie

1065
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: learning curve that needs to be overcome. And then when

1066
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: you just look at the totality of the defensive end

1067
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: room outside of DeMarcus Lawrence, the talent is there, the

1068
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: veteran ability is there. Even if you take Marshawn's rookie

1069
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: situation out, there's enough there to make an impact, to

1070
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: make the loss of Sam Williams staying a lot less

1071
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: than it could otherwise. So I applaud them because Muhammad,

1072
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: not many teams and not many many media folks were

1073
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: talking about AQM like that. Right, They gave Shaka Toni

1074
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: a shot. He looked good in camp, and then he

1075
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: got injured. And then they didn't waste any time. They

1076
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: picked up the phone and say, hey, Carl, you're still

1077
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: in the area, Come on, back spin the block, right.

1078
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: So this is a defense under Mike Zimmer, and they're

1079
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: doing the same thing with linebackers. They're not necessarily waiting

1080
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: until the issue either presents itself or becomes untenable. They're

1081
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: bringing in God cycling out guy. So I think they can,

1082
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: but TBD.

1083
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 7: The thing I'll say too is I think, and I

1084
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 7: want to be careful. I say this because I love

1085
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 7: Sam to death, and I think Sam has a lot

1086
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 7: of I think Sam has a lot of talent. But

1087
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 7: Sam still had not gotten to the point where he

1088
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 7: was consistently contributing in the way that you needed him

1089
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 7: to contribute. This was gonna be that year when we

1090
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 7: got him where he was gonna get more opportunities and

1091
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 7: we're gonna get to see can he be a consistent

1092
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 7: contributor on this team and can he get rid of

1093
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 7: some of the negative plays that he had last year? Right,

1094
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 7: that was the part, That's what we were hoping to

1095
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 7: be able to see. That's why I was so devastating

1096
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 7: when he went down, because I was excited about seeing

1097
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 7: that about Sam. So when you start asking can they

1098
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 7: be can this replace Sam? My thought is like, we

1099
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 7: didn't know what we had in Sam at that point,

1100
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 7: Like we just were hopeful that he could ascend to that.

1101
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 7: I actually feel, maybe this might sound weird, I feel

1102
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 7: a little bit better about relying on the experience of

1103
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 7: somebody like last and more than I do the inexperience

1104
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 7: of someone like Sam, because I think Sam had a

1105
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 7: higher ceiling, but his floor might have been less.

1106
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: We just don't know that. We just don't. We hadn't

1107
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: seen that yet.

1108
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 6: And the discipline with Sam as well.

1109
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: That's my point. Yeah, So maybe so maybe the question

1110
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: is is less of And that's an excellent point. Maybe

1111
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: the question is less of Can the trio that you

1112
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: mentioned a QM. Carl Lost and Marshaun Leland, can they

1113
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: effectively replace what you lost? In, Sam Williams, Dante Fowlers.

1114
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: That's the question, that's the questions. And if that's the question,

1115
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: then I'll say yes.

1116
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: Interesting. M all right, Well before we go, I've got

1117
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: one question to ask each of y'all on the defensive

1118
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: side of the ball. If you had to pick one

1119
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: player that you want to see take a big leap

1120
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: next week, this week, this week, who would it be?

1121
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: Aside from sorry, let me throw a little runcher in there,

1122
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: Aside from Marshawn Leland and aside from Yeah, that's it

1123
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: because we talked marsh what you got.

1124
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: Josh, stop it. I'll go Mazzie Smith? Can can we?

1125
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1126
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 9: Start with Smith obviously had a freak accident on on

1127
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 9: Friday that that forced him to miss the game yesterday,

1128
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 9: and that's just tough because he needs these reps right now.

1129
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 9: But you know, everyone's looking at this Jordan Phillips trade,

1130
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 9: and I think initially Cowboys Nation was like, Okay, so

1131
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 9: Mazi's been relegated to the second string, And I don't

1132
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 9: think that's the case here. Yeah, I don't think that's

1133
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 9: the case here. I think Mazi is still going to

1134
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 9: be heavily relied upon in the run game at the

1135
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 9: one tech position. I think that's still the plan here

1136
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 9: and so yeah, I would like to see him take

1137
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 9: that step forward next week and have an even better

1138
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 9: performance than he had against the Rams last week. I

1139
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 9: think if he just continues to get reps, continues to

1140
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 9: show that you know, he's making improvements under Jeff Scanina,

1141
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 9: that would be great to see going into the season

1142
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 9: because defensive tackle is still my biggest concern on that

1143
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 9: defensive side of the ball.

1144
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Mine is Israel Makuamu.

1145
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 7: I think right now, you look at this defense and

1146
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 7: you look at the safety position, really just look at

1147
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 7: the defensive backs. It's getting harder and harder to make

1148
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 7: this team like there are gonna be some good defensive

1149
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 7: backs on the Cowboys roster right now that will be

1150
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 7: available once cuts happened. And I think for Israel, this

1151
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 7: is a moment where he's got a he needs to

1152
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 7: he needs to have a game and uh, And I

1153
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 7: think uh, And I think he's a good player. I've

1154
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 7: seen some things that I love his attitude. So I

1155
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 7: want to see him have one of those kind of

1156
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 7: games where he really gives him something to think about

1157
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 7: the safety position.

1158
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: And I don't think the expectations are there necessarily to

1159
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: the sealing. I don't know where the expections expectations are

1160
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: for Justin Rodgers, but as a seventh round pick, I

1161
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 5: want to see some a spark from that position and

1162
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 5: to see him uh play well in that next game

1163
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 5: for the soul's sake of depth at that position.

1164
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 13: Uh.

1165
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: I could go with the pretty pick, which would be

1166
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: like a Trey Lance obviously, but I think collectively defense

1167
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: can do it all defense, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

1168
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: with Willie Harvey Jr. And I love the camp that

1169
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Willy Harvey Junr. Is having, But he did take a

1170
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: step back against the Rams, and that made the conversation

1171
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: at that time coming out of that game, then it's

1172
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Willie Harvey versus Nick Vigil, because you know what you

1173
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: got above them, right? So you got Eric Kendrick, Damone,

1174
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Clark de marve On overshown, Mary Sluyfile. So there are

1175
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: You're four and I'm willing to carry five. So give

1176
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: me a plus one. And for me, the plus one

1177
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: was Willy Harvey going into the Rams game. But then

1178
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: Vigil flashed in the Rams game, especially on special teams.

1179
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: Vigil has pre existing relationship with a couple of defensive

1180
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: guys like Mike Zimmer. But Willie Harvey took strides against

1181
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Had he nearly had a pick six. You

1182
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: got to come down with that. Will He helped me out,

1183
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Help me out. I'm right in with you. You gotta help

1184
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: me out. But also had another pass break up and

1185
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: that was all in the first quarter. So coverage skills

1186
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: are absolutely there. That's something that Mike Zimmer absolutely loves

1187
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: from his linebackers. And I just want to see Willie

1188
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: Harvey take that next step, maybe get that interception, get

1189
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: that pick six, maybe get a takeaway force of fumble,

1190
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: something like that. So yeah, I want to see that

1191
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: because I want the plus one battle, the battle for

1192
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: plus one the linebacker. I want that to be hot heavy,

1193
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: not that it already isn't, but I want to see

1194
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: it really start cooking.

1195
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: Have a chance on Saturday against the Charge. Yeah, three

1196
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: pm kickoff. Wait, we didn't even get a chance to

1197
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: highlight Brandon Aubrey, who would have tied.

1198
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: All You got to say, sixty six yarda. That's that's enough.

1199
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: Like we get sixty six yarda and congratulations to the

1200
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: Aubrey's They welcomed Colt Aubrey uh into the world not

1201
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: long after the game against the Rams.

1202
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 9: So yeah, we weren't talking about him coming around the

1203
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 9: edge before the show, you know, like that's the possibility.

1204
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: It was list st Brandon, Aubrey's dad strength. Now are

1205
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: we wrapping here? Yeah? You get no, I was, I was.

1206
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 13: No.

1207
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I was asking for a reason. Was because I had

1208
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: something I need to say before we wrap the show. Wrapping, Yeah,

1209
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: we are all right, so real quick, can I get

1210
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: one with Come on hall pick six? Seeing that young

1211
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: man he was claimed off, we go with it? Go ahead, GMG,

1212
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: call o good.

1213
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: Wait that's what you'all do? Oh wow, hey, don't even

1214
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: don't even.

1215
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: From Howard got a pick six?

1216
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: Don't do wow? Hey, come on, you see what you

1217
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: see what you're calls him? But no real shouts out

1218
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: to that young man because you know he's approaching thirst.

1219
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: So he's twenty seven, I believe. But his NFL journey

1220
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: has involved a lot of turmoil as far as short

1221
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: stints on teams. You know, waved signed waved claim wave

1222
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: sign uh and here he is. Second stint with the Cowboys.

1223
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Last stint was very abbreviated practice squad twenty twenty, and

1224
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: he comes out and he gets to pick six. But

1225
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that wasn't a flute play because he had a multiple

1226
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: interception day earlier in August in training camp. He had

1227
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: a pick that day on Trey Lenz. He had a

1228
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: pick on Cooper Rush. So since he was claimed from

1229
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers after they waived him earlier, this

1230
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: this training camp, he's been making waves in practice and

1231
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: now he's making waves on the in games as well.

1232
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: You talk about that defensive back battle and trying to

1233
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: cut that down. Kemon Hall is going to make that

1234
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: conversation that much more difficult. So shouts out to that

1235
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: young man. Butler too, I think he's Josh Square is

1236
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: another one as well. So and also funny story, real short,

1237
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: kem On he doesn't want to bring up to Jerry Jones,

1238
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: will remind him that it was kam On Hall in

1239
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: his time with un T versus Arkansas when they blew

1240
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: the doors off of Arkansas. Keim On Hall with the

1241
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: twenty six I believe yard pick six off of John Stevens. Yeah,

1242
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: so life goes full circle. So shouts out to that

1243
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: young man no doubt, Oh yeah, it's a personal thing.

1244
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 7: I gotta say, it's roughly about what's at ten fifty

1245
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 7: six back home fifty six. Al right, So in roughly

1246
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 7: about an hour and four minutes, we will hit midnight,

1247
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 7: and it will be my twenty fourth wedding anniversary.

1248
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: And I gotta I.

1249
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 7: Gotta take a second, because for those of you out

1250
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: there who have been like watching us come out to

1251
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 7: training camp every year, what you don't know is the

1252
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 7: part of the people that you leave back home, and

1253
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 7: particularly spouses that you leave back home. My wife is

1254
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 7: a rock, when I tell you, every year, what can

1255
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: go wrong goes wrong while we're at training camp. And

1256
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: for twenty four years, she has been holding it down.

1257
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 7: For twenty twenty of those years, she's been holding it

1258
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 7: down with a kid or two kids and making things

1259
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 7: happen while I'm out at training camp and having the

1260
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 7: time of my life doing what I do and what

1261
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 7: I enjoy my passion, right, and she's at home holding

1262
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 7: it down.

1263
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: And so I just have to say, Honey, I.

1264
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 7: Appreciate you, thank you for twenty four years, and let's

1265
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: keep this thing going. We got we got at least

1266
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 7: twenty six twenty seven more left Innnis rolling.

1267
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Tell it you ain't got but a couple more years.

1268
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: I know she's talking like ninety five. I know she

1269
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: does act like although, to be fair, he is making

1270
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: the sounds when he sits down. We talk all the time.

1271
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: He does. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.

1272
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm okay with.

1273
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: That has been I have been out presented by Solo

1274
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: Stove for Josh Rodriguez, Patrick Nosey Walker, myself in the court,

1275
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: Sindari Eagleton, and Nick Harris. So long Cowboys Nation.

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00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,160
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