Speaker 1: Literally hello to everyone out there listening. It's me Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers of this very podcast Laws Culture Usas, And before
Speaker 1: we get into this episode, I just wanted to hop
Speaker 1: on here and tell you guys all about something I'm
Speaker 1: extremely excited about, which is the premiere of my show
Speaker 1: Game Show on Quimby on April six. So if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard me talk about Game Show before, it's a
Speaker 1: show that I created with not just a friend of
Speaker 1: the pod, not even just family of the pods, sister
Speaker 1: of the pod, Dave Mazzoni, where we take two straight
Speaker 1: contestants too straight mail contestants and put them head to
Speaker 1: head to see which one of them will emerge victorious
Speaker 1: as honorarily gay as fun and Rain as Queen of
Speaker 1: the Straits. So we take two straight dudes, we put
Speaker 1: them through our challenges, which are you know, pop culture
Speaker 1: trivia challenges, emotional challenges, physical challenges, and one emerges victorious.
Speaker 1: So yes, um, this is two straight people competing to
Speaker 1: be called gay as fuck, and that's one reason why
Speaker 1: is not so bad. So that doesn't entice you enough,
Speaker 1: I did just want to share some of the guest
Speaker 1: stars that we're gonna be having on the show. Each
Speaker 1: straight contestant gets as signed a life partner, either a
Speaker 1: wise queer or a woman, who gets it to help
Speaker 1: them on their journey to win the title of Montorelli
Speaker 1: Gay as Fun and they are as follows Nicole Buyer,
Speaker 1: Joe Kim Booster, Brendan Skinnell, Patty Harrison, Trixie Mattel, Liza Trigger,
Speaker 1: Allana Glazer, Guy Brand, I'm Tawny Knews, some Bob the
Speaker 1: Drag Queen, Sydney Washington, Rachel Bloom, Robin Feede, John Lovett,
Speaker 1: Darcy Cardon, and of course you know, we had to
Speaker 1: book the one and only Bowen Yang for the gig
Speaker 1: that is Game Show on Quimby. April six is the
Speaker 1: launch new episodes every day over the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: Super super excited. We've seen all the episodes and we're
Speaker 1: really thrilled for you guys to watch them. And also
Speaker 1: it's a ninety day free trial if you signed up
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, so pre order now, utilize that
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Speaker 1: also really excited for you guys to enjoyed this episode
Speaker 1: of Lost Culture e stas here we go, look mad,
Speaker 1: oh I see you? Why why? And look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding Dong. Lost Culture
Speaker 1: is just calling itchy? Itchy? Why itchy? I've told you
Speaker 1: this right? Oh yeah, what's with your body? I think
Speaker 1: it's stress hives or something. But I need to go
Speaker 1: see a doctor when I go back to New York.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I'm uninsured. How could you be
Speaker 1: an unsured? Because I was kicked off SAG insurance because
Speaker 1: I just didn't sign up in time for this next year.
Speaker 1: Because for a second there they booted me off because
Speaker 1: they're like, you didn't qualify for this period. And then
Speaker 1: and then I started making enough money for them, like
Speaker 1: just kidding, you can do it, but like they a
Speaker 1: lot of mix ups with the mailing address of it all.
Speaker 1: And then it's too complicated. It's too complicated in the
Speaker 1: w g A, I guess I haven't paid my dues
Speaker 1: and I don't have MPGY insurance, so I just don't
Speaker 1: have any insurance. Wow, you need it. I've playing simple
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to argue with you about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not going to push back either,
Speaker 1: but I don't push back. It's weird, and I will
Speaker 1: pay out of pocket for that bow. And that's cook.
Speaker 1: You're in two unions, I mean two unions, but they
Speaker 1: make it, they make it hard on purpose for you
Speaker 1: to like pay on time. I'll say this anything. If
Speaker 1: I get any email that says insurance on it or
Speaker 1: like anything for life, like a bal or something, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I have to remember that. This is the thing
Speaker 1: about being an adult, a thirty year old man. It's
Speaker 1: just like you got to actually do things like that.
Speaker 1: It's difficult. I am still so. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to be itching. I know. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is you have you slept with anyone? Weird? I truly
Speaker 1: have not had sex of any kind in the last
Speaker 1: several months. Well, that's something that has you have. You
Speaker 1: have to sign up for two things, health insurance and
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse. We have to make sure. I think the
Speaker 1: w G I in this and definitely SAD can get
Speaker 1: you some sex. I don't know. I don't get invited
Speaker 1: to the events are you talking about. I'm literally going
Speaker 1: to know we're not doing we're doing the wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna say I'm saying I often get invited
Speaker 1: to events because of you. That's not but not SAG events.
Speaker 1: I'm talking you don't get in event what you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to go to a SAG screening? Accidentally brush your
Speaker 1: elbow a little too hard next to someone you're seeing
Speaker 1: I don't know, a screening with and then say oh,
Speaker 1: sorry for that, and they say, actually, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal at all. Hi, I'm Michael. And then you
Speaker 1: shake their hand and have sex with them. Yes. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you God, that's all I want. I just
Speaker 1: want the sparks to fly. I have not felt that
Speaker 1: you haven't felt sexual attraction with another human. I felt
Speaker 1: sexual attraction, but truly it all nothing were like starshour
Speaker 1: is happening. You know you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Tell her swift song did not say everything. Now meet
Speaker 1: me and the boy rain, kiss me on the side,
Speaker 1: take away the past for one second? Can we cannonically
Speaker 1: make it so that it's not sad Walk, but it's
Speaker 1: sad walk like I want to add more melisma into
Speaker 1: into Taylor. Yes, so let's do sade Walk, take away
Speaker 1: the pain, and then just for to to change one
Speaker 1: other song instead of Um, what dreams? What do you
Speaker 1: want it to be? I wanted to be what the streams?
Speaker 1: But that that melisma is fucking up the tempo and
Speaker 1: why don't you want to change it? Because you know
Speaker 1: she can't execute it? Now what I liked about the
Speaker 1: Ryan Adams cover album and of course he is canceled.
Speaker 1: Uh that of course Ryan Adams is we we don't, yes,
Speaker 1: we can say it on the pod. Ryan Adams was
Speaker 1: fucked up to Mandy Moore. And it's actually real culture
Speaker 1: number three. You don't be fucked up to Mandy Moore. Um,
Speaker 1: you actually don't. But but Ryan Adams cover a while
Speaker 1: the streams, he goes, love it well, hu, well hu
Speaker 1: the streets which actually actually lay on a train track
Speaker 1: for that one. I'm gonna have to ask him to
Speaker 1: lay on a train track for that one. Now Here
Speaker 1: here's someone who I would never ever ever want to
Speaker 1: lay on a train track. No, And in fact, if
Speaker 1: he laid on a train track, I would just I would.
Speaker 1: I would do this. I would scream, Jimmy mean, Jimmy me, no,
Speaker 1: I would say, and I would call the police, and
Speaker 1: I would call the first of all, Well, the first
Speaker 1: thing you do if you see someone laying on the
Speaker 1: train tracks, called the police. Scream before you even say anything,
Speaker 1: and go, I'm at this address, in this address, so
Speaker 1: they can dispatch immediately. Hi, let's do it. And when one,
Speaker 1: what's your Hi? My name is Matt Rodgers, and don't
Speaker 1: even tell them your name. You gotta tell them. Then
Speaker 1: try again our time. I'm at the train tracks and
Speaker 1: my name is Matt Rock. Should I not tell them
Speaker 1: my name? Should I? What? What? What? At what point
Speaker 1: do I tell them my name? Because they're going to
Speaker 1: ask one as soon as you're done saying I'm at
Speaker 1: this train track. You've got to be specific with a
Speaker 1: train track you're at. One more time, when one, what's
Speaker 1: your emergence? Hi, I'm at the Los Angeles train tracks.
Speaker 1: My name is Matt Rogers, and I'm seeing a friend
Speaker 1: of mine laying on the tracks. We're sending someone over
Speaker 1: right away. Oh my god. Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, and I should just wait here, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: And see the beautiful thing about that is you were
Speaker 1: Los Angeles train track. I'm there, I'm there, I know
Speaker 1: where I know where you are. Yeah, we all know that.
Speaker 1: We can see it in mine anyway, if you were
Speaker 1: laying on train tracks, I would be very upset, and
Speaker 1: I would of course call the police and post taste
Speaker 1: post taste post taste now um I but not post taste,
Speaker 1: not post taste. So he I think I see him
Speaker 1: as a true genius. Um White people doing improv is
Speaker 1: iconic culture. I got a culture. He plays every single
Speaker 1: character in an improv class. It's the funniest thing I've
Speaker 1: seen in there. You want to know what's something I
Speaker 1: respect more than like anything, Yeah, Malawa is done? Is
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Fowley put up the I'm a Stone so
Speaker 1: Long Boulder City genius. I actually respect that more than
Speaker 1: anything Malaala has done. I would agree. I think that
Speaker 1: if you were to compare the two and we are
Speaker 1: and we are, I would you know, I would be like,
Speaker 1: I pick I picked a long Boulder city. Picks a
Speaker 1: Long Boulder City, Like what a genius idea. That's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, a weird thing to say, but you know,
Speaker 1: like when you see like Joe Firestone or something like
Speaker 1: come up with a brilliant show concept, You're like, god,
Speaker 1: you know, not not even it's not even I and
Speaker 1: I wish I had thought of that, situation. It's like
Speaker 1: a Wow, I don't I respect that idea so much
Speaker 1: that I don't want to insert myself in that. It
Speaker 1: was one of those things where I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone should do that, it's perfect, and then someone was
Speaker 1: so it's so our guests wrote the entire One woman
Speaker 1: showed that I'm a Stone performs in Lalla Land that
Speaker 1: you don't see and also this is amongst other um
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say the word hilarious as
Speaker 1: I actually use the word hilarious, which is two things
Speaker 1: not something you can say about everyone. And spells like
Speaker 1: this h E L A R e O s disgusting
Speaker 1: and he's hilarious. And actually what you must do is
Speaker 1: look at his YouTube videos, go to the instagramm. You
Speaker 1: have to. You have to. This is gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for some people out there, some readers. We have to
Speaker 1: seek out talent. You actually, you have to seek out talent.
Speaker 1: He's a groundlings that that he um Oh his web
Speaker 1: series Go Go Boy Interrupted, I mean icon of culture. Also,
Speaker 1: he had a very small part in the Comeback, small
Speaker 1: part in the Comeback, big part in the other two
Speaker 1: Huge and It's Day tuned for season two, Stay and
Speaker 1: that's a spoiler. And that's a spoiler. And he has recently.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy works hard because he just finished
Speaker 1: writing this project that he's gonna tell us more about.
Speaker 1: We're very curious. We're gonna get the scoop. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get the scoop. Just finished writing. He was just shooting
Speaker 1: it today before we came here. The project is called Windshield. Yes,
Speaker 1: short film, short film, wind Shield, upcoming, upcoming. But truly
Speaker 1: he came in with a purpose to tell us about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And actually, can I tell you something. I had lunch
Speaker 1: with our guests, probably about six to eight months ago,
Speaker 1: somewhere within that window period it might have been, might
Speaker 1: have been seven months. That's why I say between six
Speaker 1: and eight. Um, and yeah it's been. I said, let's
Speaker 1: wait before we meet again. UM, let's wait, let's wait.
Speaker 1: I love this, but we gotta wait. Um. And we
Speaker 1: actually connected during the lunch and I felt like I
Speaker 1: I left the lunch and I was like, Wow, a
Speaker 1: soul connection. We get each other, we see each other.
Speaker 1: I know he felt the same. He's smiling, smiling. You
Speaker 1: know what I say. We bring him in, so everyone,
Speaker 1: please welcome into your ears. Jimmy bally guys, imagine that
Speaker 1: was what you bring. It's a huge and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: that was so nice. Well that's how we feel. Well,
Speaker 1: we we feel the same way about you, and it's
Speaker 1: great to be able to sit here. And I'll say
Speaker 1: it as three gay men who are supporting each other
Speaker 1: and not getting in each other's way and not closing
Speaker 1: the door. So often in this business you see the
Speaker 1: gay man just shutting doors and each other's faces. Um
Speaker 1: and rough Star. That was not Rocky at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, it's I don't feel super competitive
Speaker 1: with gay guys. But also when I kind of came
Speaker 1: up through groundlings, Drew rog like the icon, he was
Speaker 1: so supportive, and other gay guys like above me older
Speaker 1: than me, were like, um, just so nice, and I felt,
Speaker 1: I don't know, have you guys felt gay guys kind
Speaker 1: of the same way. We literally talk all the time
Speaker 1: about how we had a very good relationships with people
Speaker 1: like I think it all came at the right time
Speaker 1: because I would imagine, like over the years, like when
Speaker 1: there's only been so many spots for like gay guys
Speaker 1: to be doing things the token gay person and so
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird energy. But we can say like
Speaker 1: we have we're such close friends with like other gay comedians,
Speaker 1: like that's like who's in our group thread, that's like
Speaker 1: who we But truly, all it takes is it takes
Speaker 1: one friendly gay person, truly to be like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know that's that um and Drew absolutely is like
Speaker 1: the training example. He's so great, he's so hysterical, he's
Speaker 1: undeniably funny, super nice. Um side note, Matt, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's important you say what we did when we
Speaker 1: hung out. We saw Aladdin. O god, I cannot believe.
Speaker 1: I kept calling it a lunch but because it was Aladdin.
Speaker 1: And then we went to Tender Grade it was Aladdin,
Speaker 1: and then Tender Grads it was literally this and this
Speaker 1: actually is you know that someone is like, you're already
Speaker 1: going to get along with someone. I already felt the vibe.
Speaker 1: I was going to get along because you would never
Speaker 1: like the first time you're hanging out socially as friends,
Speaker 1: be like, let's sit for a two hour movie. And
Speaker 1: we didn't really know each other, but I was like,
Speaker 1: we're seeing Aladdin and then maybe afterwards we'll get lunch.
Speaker 1: And then we did, and I always remember the lunch,
Speaker 1: but fucking you bet your remember that a boo and
Speaker 1: it was like so disturbing. He was like every sober
Speaker 1: gay guy and that I've never met cracked out of
Speaker 1: his mind. Yes, the whole movie is haunting, and that
Speaker 1: Jasmine song that they just got chills thinking about the song.
Speaker 1: I literally shuddered into the mic, thinking about how does
Speaker 1: it go again? I will not remain. I mean, here's
Speaker 1: the thing we love. Will not go. I will not go.
Speaker 1: No one knows the melody of the song. Actually, if
Speaker 1: you asked anyone, they don't know it. But but the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is we love Passing and paul
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that we love but this this
Speaker 1: song was just not the moment. The song I would
Speaker 1: say that they would agree, well, it's it's an anomaly.
Speaker 1: Why did they feel like they needed it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: And part of me is just like part of me
Speaker 1: is just like I hope what happened is that actress
Speaker 1: demanded it. She was like, I need a huge ballad
Speaker 1: which you respect. We have to respect you. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: literally it was about the song was about Jasmine saying
Speaker 1: that no, she would not remain speechless and she would
Speaker 1: finally speak up, which was culturally note, you're you're not
Speaker 1: able to like there was a network note that was
Speaker 1: like we want a feminist win, we want we want,
Speaker 1: we want her to be actually a hashtag girl bus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. That was one of the logic pieces
Speaker 1: that you found that you were like, this rubs me
Speaker 1: the wrong way that she has this, she was characteristic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a flying carpet Genie will Smith. Oh that was
Speaker 1: a whole other moment. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm bringing this energy into especially critical culture. I
Speaker 1: have to point out that there it was that it
Speaker 1: was a big headline when the lead actor who played
Speaker 1: a lot in like sending an interview is like I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten a single audition, and it's like, okay, sob
Speaker 1: story great. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard for all
Speaker 1: of us. It's hard for brown actors. But then literally
Speaker 1: they just announced are making a sequel to that live
Speaker 1: action a lot and he's going to make like another
Speaker 1: He's gonna make his millions again. It's like, are you talking,
Speaker 1: are they making like an Aladdin two? Or are they
Speaker 1: doing the other thing? Do you know what you see?
Speaker 1: The other thing? Do you remember when we saw the
Speaker 1: movie and there was like the White Prince played by
Speaker 1: Billy Mackison, who was like goofy and silly before thence
Speaker 1: they were doing a spinoff with his character. Literally, there's
Speaker 1: now gonna be a whole movie that's just that white
Speaker 1: blonde dumb print. I think it's something different. I think
Speaker 1: this is a direct sequel aladd into the same cast.
Speaker 1: I believe Culturalista's readers, Um, let me know it's not true,
Speaker 1: but but I mean that's what it is. Jimmy Vale
Speaker 1: and I saw it and he was not the breakout
Speaker 1: of character, and that's okay. And there wasn't a breakout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was good. She was so funny. Yeah, the scene
Speaker 1: was great, was great, she was well, I guess I
Speaker 1: don't want to give a spoiler. Oh but spoiler the genie.
Speaker 1: Thank you someone, finally someone. I was missing that from
Speaker 1: the cartoon. Yeah. I actually was like, I think my
Speaker 1: note for the cartoon is the genie isn't sexual. Do
Speaker 1: you guys remember that? Like urban legend? Wait, how old
Speaker 1: are you guys? I'm third worth. I'll be thirty by
Speaker 1: the time this comes out. Okay, because around that time
Speaker 1: when it came out. There was this urban legend that
Speaker 1: if they would that sex was written in the clouds,
Speaker 1: or they said take off your clothes. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: In Lion King, it's when Simba like collapses into the leaves,
Speaker 1: the leaves blow and the wins. For a Laddin, it
Speaker 1: was Genie saying to take off your clothes, okay, and
Speaker 1: then the the urban legends, Robin Williams just like kind
Speaker 1: of like through that in their off scrapt Then they
Speaker 1: kept at the nivators kept up and there's an in
Speaker 1: the in the very original, the very first original artwork
Speaker 1: for a Little Mermaid, there's a dick in the in
Speaker 1: the Palace of Atlantic Old Palace. They're so sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually disgusting. It's actually everyone in order to you even
Speaker 1: get a job, you actually have to pass a pervert test. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think you think they're testing, and they're and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I hope, like it's like all pervert stuff, and
Speaker 1: you're like, no, but they only hi are the people
Speaker 1: that passed the pass. Can I Can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: So this is not a brag, but I was a
Speaker 1: recurring character on a Disney show called Bizarre Varka, Were
Speaker 1: you opposite Jennifer Coolidge something else? Know that that that
Speaker 1: was something else? That was two Broke Girls, right, Um,
Speaker 1: but I do love that. Other work that I've done
Speaker 1: is coming up naturally as we But no, I played
Speaker 1: this character Angelo, who was the assistant. Everyone thought I
Speaker 1: was an extra. I had no lines, and it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be this big like physical comedy bit leading
Speaker 1: up to this, all these you know, character arcs, and
Speaker 1: I was in like three or four episodes and they
Speaker 1: kept I was in. I was an assistant to a
Speaker 1: twelve year old girl with a laugh track. There wasn't
Speaker 1: even there wasn't even people in the audience. So it's
Speaker 1: truly dead silent. We're doing the comedy. It's got it's
Speaker 1: really unfunny. I'm sorry if any of the writers are
Speaker 1: listening to this, I'm sorry, but you know it's a
Speaker 1: kid show. I mean, look, it's like broad ass, like
Speaker 1: my chicken smells like state. So that it was like
Speaker 1: people spinning up, like like literally doing spin takes and
Speaker 1: all that. But they kept being like they would, like
Speaker 1: they had me measuring a nine year old boy, like
Speaker 1: measuring his body, and and so it's the scene where
Speaker 1: I'm measuring them and and I'm like miming it, and
Speaker 1: the directors like, okay, you know, and don't go below
Speaker 1: the waist. Don't go below the waist. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: so self conscious right now, Like I hate and you
Speaker 1: created this moment, Like I didn't come to you and say, like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be fun if I was like measuring his dick,
Speaker 1: like im thinking about divin below the waist while I
Speaker 1: measured the kid? What do you think? It was so
Speaker 1: weird And anyways, they like wrote the character off because
Speaker 1: it was so disturbing to the audience. That's such a bummer.
Speaker 1: It was such a bummer. And you guys, I literally
Speaker 1: thought I had made it. It was my first time
Speaker 1: ever coming back, so I felt like super confident. I
Speaker 1: like wanted to change dressing rooms because one dressing room
Speaker 1: like had a window and wasn't as cold, and I
Speaker 1: was gonna like make a move and say, hey, can
Speaker 1: I actually switch dressing rooms next episode? And I never
Speaker 1: came back. Thank god I didn't make that request. That
Speaker 1: would have been I love that. Wait. The character was
Speaker 1: an assistant to a twelve year old. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: like a It was like a YouTuber. She was like
Speaker 1: a YouTuber, Wait, that's funny. I'll find a clip and
Speaker 1: I'll send it to it's I have to do. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm sure that you were hilarious, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure that if if they didn't like you, it
Speaker 1: was just the audiences. They don't get it. They don't
Speaker 1: they didn't get what I was doing. But then, but then,
Speaker 1: but there was Two Broke Girls after CBS Diversity. Yeah
Speaker 1: that was a little bit. Um that was like a
Speaker 1: few months after. That's so crazy. You booked something right
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, that was cool. And then um, and
Speaker 1: that was such a fun show because you know, just
Speaker 1: doing sketchm like you love the they do have the
Speaker 1: live audience, and that is cool because so few shows
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I have that. So that's
Speaker 1: like a unique experience if you get to do something
Speaker 1: like that totally, especially coming from Groundlings, where like everything
Speaker 1: is so heightened, so emotional. Like sometimes I'm teaching students
Speaker 1: and I'm like, is this just like this weird outdated
Speaker 1: eighties thing that I'm teaching them? But every now and
Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, when I was doing Two bro Girls,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is like actually skills. So
Speaker 1: it's because I was I came up with you see
Speaker 1: me in New York, and so it's very very much
Speaker 1: the same, like where you're doing the kind of comedy
Speaker 1: that that succeeds in live spaces. And then I don't
Speaker 1: know how you feel, but a note that I get
Speaker 1: all the time, you're very bone, is very good and
Speaker 1: dropped in and like a good actor. But no, but
Speaker 1: you're about to say that you go too big. It's
Speaker 1: too big. I get no constantly that hey, you can
Speaker 1: just throw it away always because my face is drawn.
Speaker 1: You are giving me too much credit because I watch
Speaker 1: myself back and this stuff, and I'm just like this
Speaker 1: fucking so it's your thing that you watch that you're like,
Speaker 1: I wish I could delete this. Oh so many things.
Speaker 1: I have so many videos of shows of me, like
Speaker 1: doing a stand up show where that you have a
Speaker 1: fucking person recording the thing and putting it up on
Speaker 1: like the show YouTube. And it's like now like every
Speaker 1: now and then, like you know, I'll do the vain
Speaker 1: thing of like looking myself. I'll just want to watch
Speaker 1: something that I was in, like you know, like like
Speaker 1: for s ANDL just like oh, I want to watch
Speaker 1: that thing again, just like once a month. I'll do that,
Speaker 1: I swear to God. But then like these bad, these
Speaker 1: shows of me doing bad stand up for you, and
Speaker 1: I have views like oh this, people are like watching
Speaker 1: this and thinking, well, he sucks, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: this is truly a dark peak into who uploads it?
Speaker 1: Just that this like the comedy like that, like you know,
Speaker 1: Green Space NYC. I'll call them out. They've I've had
Speaker 1: the ask out to my managers to respectfully ask them
Speaker 1: to take it down because people because you're able to
Speaker 1: and they haven't yet, so I don't think they will,
Speaker 1: so it's fine. But if you're listening, this is a call.
Speaker 1: This is you getting called out. I will say this like,
Speaker 1: this is so weird and random at this happened. But
Speaker 1: I came up at U C B and before I
Speaker 1: left for New York, I for for l A. Rather,
Speaker 1: I was on a team called Characters Welcome, which is
Speaker 1: three to five minute original characters. Every month you have
Speaker 1: to come up with a new one, and recently some
Speaker 1: someone like slaying a character and the channel like Blue
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on the on the team for
Speaker 1: like two years, so towards the end of me being
Speaker 1: on the team, I could kind of feel myself like
Speaker 1: like not slacking, but well was righting up and like
Speaker 1: I my ideas weren't as good and like I wasn't
Speaker 1: like feeling writing original characters anymore, and my writing like
Speaker 1: I didn't do as many like punch ups on it.
Speaker 1: So I wrote this character called a straight gay teen,
Speaker 1: which is like love signmon character that's like, I'm just
Speaker 1: like you. I have two rich white parents and i'll
Speaker 1: dog and I'm a little gay and here's my sad story.
Speaker 1: And it was just kind of picking on love Sign
Speaker 1: and I think it's funny, but it's crazy because the
Speaker 1: way it popped off on YouTube was like it is
Speaker 1: so many views in such a positive response, and I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: because I'm watching this and I feel like it needs
Speaker 1: a joke pass like bad. And that's when I think,
Speaker 1: like maybe I don't know what's actually good and I'm
Speaker 1: just like I have like such like a gay humor brain,
Speaker 1: like I just think what I think is funny and
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it is. But it's like
Speaker 1: that's so great that you think this is good, but
Speaker 1: like I don't even I don't even stand by this,
Speaker 1: and I think it would be that that I would
Speaker 1: take down just because I think it needs more joke passes.
Speaker 1: People like it, and then I put up something I'm
Speaker 1: proud of and they're like, no, okay, you're bragging. Stop. No, No,
Speaker 1: It's weird how some stuff people will respond to something.
Speaker 1: But then also it's like that weird something just hits
Speaker 1: the right person shares it. It's a phenomenon um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt that too, like something I'm like, I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to share this with the world and no one cares. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's well before we before we take our first break,
Speaker 1: I want to know about Winsfield. Before the break. We're
Speaker 1: gonna break. We're gonna take the break, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you a traumatizing Oh I love it. I
Speaker 1: actually love trauma. After this, we're back with Jimmy and okay,
Speaker 1: what is this tell us about Windshield? Okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you so I and this is my first
Speaker 1: time just sharing it in the open, so we're honored.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this is my first time talking about it.
Speaker 1: But I was in this two year relationship. Actually, MAT
Speaker 1: think we had broken up when we when we were
Speaker 1: when we hung out, you were like in a really
Speaker 1: tough spot because you were struggling very badly with the relationship.
Speaker 1: And then I remember after about a week or two
Speaker 1: after we hung out, I had heard that or I
Speaker 1: think you had like said something online that you guys
Speaker 1: broke up, and I was like, oh, they must have
Speaker 1: broken out. Okay, that's so crazy. If I said it online,
Speaker 1: that's no. No, or something where you were like you
Speaker 1: mentioned like single, you described yourself a single, not like
Speaker 1: cutting my Instagram at just me being like I am no,
Speaker 1: But I remember I like, it wasn't something you told me.
Speaker 1: It was like you you described yourself as like being single,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I guess sort of import
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what that was. It's well,
Speaker 1: I had so basically I had was with this guy
Speaker 1: for two years. We like had a really positive relationship.
Speaker 1: It was no like fighting ang or whatever. We ended
Speaker 1: up opening the relationship up, um, and you know how
Speaker 1: that goes. I think for some people it's fine, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be dicey. Anyways, he ended up like
Speaker 1: dating our married friend who and then they like they
Speaker 1: the three of us were going to hook up and
Speaker 1: then they hooked up on their own and in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's weird. But I'm like, do you
Speaker 1: like the person? He and I was like, it's my acts.
Speaker 1: I was like do you like you know? And he's
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, I don't. I don't like him,
Speaker 1: like and he's like, I wish you would drop it.
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. But they would be texting all the time,
Speaker 1: and like I, they would go out and and I
Speaker 1: told him, whoever, if we hook up with someone, just
Speaker 1: let the other person know, so it's everything's discreet, it's
Speaker 1: on the table. And then one time we were together
Speaker 1: and I saw on his phone, like I said like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's parking like at your place? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: did you hang out? And he's like yeah, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh did you hook up? And I was like okay,
Speaker 1: And I felt super uncomfortable, but I didn't feel empowered
Speaker 1: enough to say hey, I'm really uncomfortable with this, but
Speaker 1: I was like, just moving forward, just let me know
Speaker 1: if you hook up. And it happened again. Anyways, long
Speaker 1: story short, like, I think you can probably edit all
Speaker 1: of that out well, but then I want to know.
Speaker 1: I have a question though, and while this is all happening,
Speaker 1: do you guys still have like a healthy sexual relationship? No?
Speaker 1: Not really, so, Like basically we broke up the person
Speaker 1: that I had thought that he had a connection with
Speaker 1: that he's denied the whole time. He I found out
Speaker 1: that that person had told my ex that he had
Speaker 1: feelings for him. When we were still together and we
Speaker 1: were all friends, we were like going out to conscience
Speaker 1: him and his husband, but this thing was happening. It
Speaker 1: was happening, And when I found out that they were together,
Speaker 1: I went crazy and I ended up destroying his car
Speaker 1: windshield of his Audie God in a jealous raid. You
Speaker 1: bust the windows. I busted the windows, and your ex
Speaker 1: boyfriends and my ex boyfriend. And this all happened at
Speaker 1: gold Him Hollywood. I'll let you decide what's the scariest
Speaker 1: part of this story. And then this is like really cryptic,
Speaker 1: like hopefully this makes you laugh because I think it's
Speaker 1: super dark. As I'm in my car about to drive
Speaker 1: away after I like I threw a water bottle at
Speaker 1: his windshield, I'm about to drive away, He's like Jimmy,
Speaker 1: He's like my fucking car. And I turned him and
Speaker 1: I go, this is just the beginning. And I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him since what So was it just the beginning?
Speaker 1: It was the end. See that's like sweet and endearing.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so you guys. So what's so
Speaker 1: weird is that I thought we'd be friends forever and
Speaker 1: Windshield and so Windshield and it's like, because I feel
Speaker 1: like a breakup story is not super like I would
Speaker 1: have to be pretty delusional to think like, oh West, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: open relationship ending is like my sobs. But it's weird
Speaker 1: being comedian because you're you know, you're happy enough being
Speaker 1: sillient performing And I could not stop crying for like
Speaker 1: four months, like I every day four hours, and um
Speaker 1: I ended up going to therapy for it and talking
Speaker 1: about it. And I was adopted and I was in
Speaker 1: like I never really knew my my biological parents, and
Speaker 1: so there were all these weird parallels of like me
Speaker 1: thinking I was replaced and like I had a really
Speaker 1: unhealthy attachment to my ex and so but it would
Speaker 1: like I would go to auditions and casting directors were like, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you, and I'd be like not good, and
Speaker 1: I would tell them the story of my breakup, like
Speaker 1: it was so inappropriate. I would go to I would say, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: don't talk about it. Don't talk I was going to
Speaker 1: my friend's wedding. I was like, do not talk about it,
Speaker 1: go have fun, laugh, and then cut to me telling
Speaker 1: the bride. The bride who you have so little time with,
Speaker 1: the fact could work it in was shocking, so um,
Speaker 1: and it was just it was just really sad because
Speaker 1: I also was really angry that, like I said, all
Speaker 1: this hateful stuff, I threatened to beat up his new
Speaker 1: boyfriend if I ever saw them in West Hollywood, which
Speaker 1: by the way, is where they both live. And it
Speaker 1: was really it was really sad. Yeah, it's hard, and
Speaker 1: you know, people, I don't really follow you for like
Speaker 1: shoehorning that into every conversation for a while with anybody,
Speaker 1: because it's it's so like top of mind for you
Speaker 1: and it's all you're thinking. I identify with it. Actually
Speaker 1: tell myself all the time, like, probably not a good
Speaker 1: thing to bring this up, like this probably isn't like
Speaker 1: nothing stopping it, but you do it because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think maybe it is like a flaw. But sometimes
Speaker 1: it is just like when these thoughts consume you, especially
Speaker 1: a relationship ending because of that, like that open relationship thing.
Speaker 1: It's really it's it's a it's a touchy topic, I
Speaker 1: think for the gay community because it's so works for
Speaker 1: some people and so doesn't for everyone. That doesn't work
Speaker 1: for it, and when it doesn't work for you, you
Speaker 1: feel like you're failing. And I don't judge anyone, like
Speaker 1: I know people who are in open relationships are so
Speaker 1: happy it works for them, And so I think I
Speaker 1: had this vibe actually too straight people like, look, I'm queer,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. Cut to me in pain,
Speaker 1: Like I really, I really had, Um, I really went
Speaker 1: through it, but um yeah, it's kind of a touchy
Speaker 1: situation and everybody is different, and I think, like you
Speaker 1: just have to do what works for you and it's
Speaker 1: okay if it doesn't work for you. But I had
Speaker 1: basically lost myself and saying that I was comfortable with
Speaker 1: things I wasn't comfortable with and not trusting my instinct,
Speaker 1: like I knew something was off and I just I
Speaker 1: loved my ext so much and I still even think
Speaker 1: he's a wonderful person, you know what I mean, despite everything,
Speaker 1: and I've just never had that thing where like you
Speaker 1: never talked to the person again that it's such a
Speaker 1: bad ending, You're like, never again. Well, I'll say I
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend for two and a half years and
Speaker 1: we actually one of the real one of the reasons,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this. One of the reasons why
Speaker 1: we kind of realized that wasn't working was because we
Speaker 1: tried being open and it was just toxic. And I
Speaker 1: think that, unfortunately, I have to admit that I was
Speaker 1: kind of I was. I was. I think I was.
Speaker 1: I think I was like the toxic person in the
Speaker 1: relationship where I was just like not willing to make
Speaker 1: things better with my boyfriend because I don't think I
Speaker 1: was really confronting the things that were wrong because I
Speaker 1: did want to stay in the relationship. I loved him
Speaker 1: so much, and I was trying to convince him and
Speaker 1: myself that the open relationship would like save us. But
Speaker 1: that's the mistake I think that gets made, is like,
Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship that's not working, the solution
Speaker 1: is not let's go to other people or at me, um,
Speaker 1: try to make someone else comfortable with something and then
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be better. Like it can only be worked
Speaker 1: on individually with yourself and you can't drag the other
Speaker 1: person down. And it is selfish to stay in something
Speaker 1: because of wanting to keep the relationship because there's another
Speaker 1: person involved. And so I think that you tell yourselves
Speaker 1: a lot of you tell yourself a lot of lies
Speaker 1: about like um, how it will be later, or like
Speaker 1: this is the answer, and it just it breaks it down.
Speaker 1: So fortunately for me, me and that person, Henry, are
Speaker 1: still friends and we still work together. But it did
Speaker 1: end not well, and I think it could have ended
Speaker 1: better and we had to really work on it, but
Speaker 1: we stayed living together for six to seven months, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of part that bothered me to us
Speaker 1: as as a third party, being like you gotta move out.
Speaker 1: But I also think that's why we're still friends. That's right,
Speaker 1: because imagine if you had ended the relationship with your
Speaker 1: boyfriend and you had been worse to still live with
Speaker 1: him plopping back in. And it's weird because I've seen
Speaker 1: we live very close to each other, so I've seen
Speaker 1: him in passing a few times and it's just we
Speaker 1: just don't even acknowledge each other. Have you had that
Speaker 1: bone where it's so bad you won't even say really,
Speaker 1: not really, I'm like because I just don't. I just
Speaker 1: have like a pretty like low sample, but I whatever.
Speaker 1: What the thing that struck me though, was that you
Speaker 1: were like that this married couple was like slowly being
Speaker 1: like folded into your lives though you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like that's the thing that kind of like would
Speaker 1: drive me crazy. It's that like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's this insidious thing of like, oh no, like what
Speaker 1: we're just they're going to come to this concert with us,
Speaker 1: and you're like cool, and then like you suspect something
Speaker 1: and then you can't really you don't know how to
Speaker 1: bring it up to be secure, and yet the whole
Speaker 1: time it's like this is not okay, this is not
Speaker 1: okay with me, And then you're, well, there can't be
Speaker 1: anything going on, like he's married, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I did think he was my friend, and I
Speaker 1: felt like very betrayed. Like that's the part that hurts him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that is that you grieve what you have with
Speaker 1: your boyfriend, but also like you thought your friend would
Speaker 1: have been it was so sketchy. And then my ex
Speaker 1: was like my side of the street is clean. By
Speaker 1: the way, his new boyfriend's ex husband now because now
Speaker 1: they're split. I went to fight my ex in the
Speaker 1: streets and think that your side of the streets clean
Speaker 1: and people are breaking your windshill and fighting you in
Speaker 1: the street like you're so examine. Yeah, but also it's
Speaker 1: like it's probably really hard for him to realize that. I,
Speaker 1: I like do think he's a good person. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I am here, I am later talking about it, but
Speaker 1: the iconic but you processed it on it, but you
Speaker 1: obviously like channeled it into something like you know, like
Speaker 1: good creative and like great, like okay, so like so
Speaker 1: what so what is what can you tell us about
Speaker 1: the short? I can tell you that basically, it takes
Speaker 1: you through It's really not so much of me trying
Speaker 1: to burn my ax or saying anything negative about his
Speaker 1: new boyfriend, but just more about that like grieving and
Speaker 1: how you get through grief and how um to do
Speaker 1: it in the backdrop of Los Angeles alone is weird.
Speaker 1: And then as a comedian like going to do comedy
Speaker 1: shows and teaching improv and like me fully like disassociating
Speaker 1: like um. And then there's some really cool people in it,
Speaker 1: like Lauren lapkiss Love Lauren, she's so funny, and Nico
Speaker 1: Santo and then um, you know who's playing my ex
Speaker 1: is twist Jonathan Bennett from me, and he's so perfectly
Speaker 1: because there's something about him that feels like he's not
Speaker 1: like I didn't want it to be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the my ex he's a villain. It's like likable,
Speaker 1: there's a manipulative I'm gonna say something, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: a weird like assessment of like um not assessment, but
Speaker 1: I just what I love about what seems to be
Speaker 1: the common thread and like your stuff is that it's
Speaker 1: like there's this like really funny fragility to all these
Speaker 1: people you play and like, but there's like this like
Speaker 1: kind of this huge emotional like flare up that's happening
Speaker 1: under like like the veneer cracking of like you know,
Speaker 1: like you do chaos very well. Controlled chaos is something
Speaker 1: that is a real skill of yours, like you know,
Speaker 1: a laugh way from a cheer, Yes exactly. But this
Speaker 1: feels like, I mean this is community, you would say
Speaker 1: when she is community. Yeah, it's community, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: more like on the like raw more and the acting
Speaker 1: is real actually really funny before I was like terrible,
Speaker 1: like fucking this guy in a rehab like it was
Speaker 1: so like Red Flag City, and I created a character
Speaker 1: based on that who Drew Trvor played this guy Reta
Speaker 1: And I'm telling him, I'm like, I want you to
Speaker 1: be in this indie it's very real, raw and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, great. And I also happened to be
Speaker 1: shooting a sketch that weekend. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw any of my clips. Was like, and he literally
Speaker 1: thought that that was what I was talking about. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like, it's this really raw, real movie. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I have a wig on. I'm just screaming out a
Speaker 1: bunch of other gay guys in a player and that
Speaker 1: makes me laugh. It was hilarious. But but I also
Speaker 1: remember at the time when you were in the relationship,
Speaker 1: you made a video about open relationships, which also popped
Speaker 1: off and was Sony's. So it feels like you and
Speaker 1: it isn't. It is a thing. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: as like gay men who are also comedians, it's like
Speaker 1: we don't really see those situations like in major television shows,
Speaker 1: and especially not like because they're not out there at all,
Speaker 1: not like the kind of comedy that we liked. So
Speaker 1: it is cool to see like you're making it like
Speaker 1: and making it yourself, because literally there are no shows
Speaker 1: with it, and especially not where it's just like about this,
Speaker 1: because now I feel like nowadays, in order to get
Speaker 1: like gay content like that even looked at, it has
Speaker 1: to be like a two hunter, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It has to be like a guy. And also he
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend who's like also as big of a character.
Speaker 1: And it's like, sometimes it's difficult to to write that
Speaker 1: when it's you because I don't necessarily know that perspective
Speaker 1: of that character. I know the perspective that I'm going through,
Speaker 1: but you don't see like you know the girls for
Speaker 1: for like gay man, you just don't looking. I guess tried.
Speaker 1: There was some I don't know where I saw, but
Speaker 1: someone said, like in TV shows there's usually just one
Speaker 1: gay character, and it was like, meanwhile, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a straight person in like four weeks, so immersing World,
Speaker 1: and I thought, those, I don't know straight people, so
Speaker 1: for them to make up the majority of television is
Speaker 1: is obscene to me. I love when a straight woman
Speaker 1: is like following or a fan I'm always like I'm
Speaker 1: like spooked, I'm like, welcome, Hello. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't really know how to like translate this for you.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Like we asked our live shows sometimes
Speaker 1: like who's straight and like the true voices that ring
Speaker 1: out were like should we bring them up? And like
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Thank you? But we had one
Speaker 1: reviewer never mind, actually cut this out, Doug. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, we hadn't off the record, Yeah, we had.
Speaker 1: We had We had run reviewer on our on our
Speaker 1: on our pod who was like, I love the pad,
Speaker 1: had great things to say, and then she goes, also
Speaker 1: I'm conservative. Are we allowed? And I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: don't cut this out. I think this is a this
Speaker 1: is a good topic. Like it's I don't understand why.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand why you would want
Speaker 1: to listen to us, but um, and we hope you
Speaker 1: have some like internal moral mechanism still intact after all this,
Speaker 1: but like, thank you for listening. But we're not going
Speaker 1: to like, you know, fucking cast you out. But it's
Speaker 1: it's just but thank you for listening. Like we we
Speaker 1: love an outside perspective. It's weird because it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know how far that reaches the conservative thing because
Speaker 1: I remember when um prop eight do you guys and
Speaker 1: um I had girls in my acting class who were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I do not believe gay And it was just
Speaker 1: like but you've known me for like years and like
Speaker 1: we like, you don't think I should. It was just
Speaker 1: a weird There was that area of time where like,
Speaker 1: well we can say it. I mean like Barack Obama
Speaker 1: was saying at the time he didn't believe in game right,
Speaker 1: and so was Hillary, and so was like even our
Speaker 1: political like people that we were supposed to respect and
Speaker 1: aspire to. We're saying this because it was still so
Speaker 1: recent that like LGBT people got any rights at all,
Speaker 1: and we have to remember, like in like the Graham
Speaker 1: Clock of the World, like we're on truly like eleven
Speaker 1: fifty eight of gay people being looked at as like equal.
Speaker 1: It's like four and a half years since marriage equality.
Speaker 1: That's right, and to even and what's crazy is like
Speaker 1: we've been through this with gay people, and we've been
Speaker 1: through this with like civil rights, where you know, it's
Speaker 1: fucked up to treat humans like they're subhuman and yet
Speaker 1: you still see people like in this in our country,
Speaker 1: like dragging their feet on whether trans people can use
Speaker 1: the bathroom that they want. It's like, you, guys, we've
Speaker 1: been through this. You have to treat human beings like
Speaker 1: human beings, like what is the big idea? And it's
Speaker 1: it's that's when you remember like it is. It is
Speaker 1: still to this day, like forget about representation. We're barely
Speaker 1: getting treated correctly. It's like wacko and crazy, and we
Speaker 1: demanded change. Um, I say, we take a quick little break,
Speaker 1: and then when we're back, we got to ask Jimmy
Speaker 1: the question, and that we're actually gonna ask him the question.
Speaker 1: We're back with Jimmy, actually are back, Jimmy, We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask you the question that we ask all of our guests. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is what we ask them. We say, what
Speaker 1: is the culture that made you say? Culture is for me?
Speaker 1: So this just means like the formative thing growing up,
Speaker 1: TV show, movie, uh, you know, music, whatever it was
Speaker 1: that like locked you into like going down a cultural
Speaker 1: path in life. Does that make sense? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: real world and like Danny and speaking of people, but
Speaker 1: but also just like the NonStop look into these lines.
Speaker 1: It's like so boring and like but also interesting. So
Speaker 1: I think that was a big part of it. And
Speaker 1: also Strangers with Candy. If I can say, why would
Speaker 1: you be able to say no? I mean yes, I
Speaker 1: mean my my thing is like well to touch on
Speaker 1: the real world of it all. It's like that was
Speaker 1: so like I remember, really if you had like cable
Speaker 1: did you have cable at this point? Did you know?
Speaker 1: All right? So like that was MTV was like almost
Speaker 1: like the forbidden channel for me because my parents were like,
Speaker 1: you could not watch this, no, And then I remember
Speaker 1: I became like fifteen and could watch it, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I was like wow, and I was
Speaker 1: like so obsessed with these people who I thought were
Speaker 1: the most gore just a stranger seven Strangers. Side note,
Speaker 1: Comedy Central was blocked at my house. Twisted Yeah, and
Speaker 1: actually because if Stranger Stranger Candy, Like I was watching
Speaker 1: it at my moment like what is this? And then
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it anymore? God, um yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I remember, Like my parents would always like walk in
Speaker 1: at the most inopportunity time when I was watching MTV
Speaker 1: like it was always like a spring break type thing,
Speaker 1: which I thought was the horny or it is you know,
Speaker 1: also side this is I'm sure I'm going to regret
Speaker 1: sharing this later, but um I don't. I was such
Speaker 1: a chronic masturbator where I would be like in a blanket,
Speaker 1: but like I would do it in public places, like
Speaker 1: when in my living room, parents around, sisters around, and
Speaker 1: I would have a because I started masturbating before my
Speaker 1: body could even produce semens, so it was nothing would come.
Speaker 1: I think it was like seven eight, Okay, I was
Speaker 1: ten and it was remember the first time I came.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like like like when you
Speaker 1: you know, when you see a piggy from a little
Speaker 1: little water bottle, it's like deep, deep, deep deep the
Speaker 1: water comes out like I don't like when you go
Speaker 1: to a petting when you check out a pig, it's
Speaker 1: just sucking down the water from the water bottle. What
Speaker 1: I mean was it came the hell, why are these
Speaker 1: pigs having water? You literally know what I'm talking about? Scared, No,
Speaker 1: you're just you're talking about like a guinea pigs water
Speaker 1: bottle and talking about a guinea pigs water bottle. Well,
Speaker 1: I pictured a little pig in my mind because I'm
Speaker 1: talking about going to the petting zoo. You horse, so
Speaker 1: I'm talking about first of all, you're both horse, and
Speaker 1: second of all, is you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: which is at the petting zoo or if you need
Speaker 1: it to be this in a little cage that the
Speaker 1: guinea pig is in when that said guinea pig drinks
Speaker 1: out of the water. That's what it was like when
Speaker 1: I came at age ten. Okay, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything was being created, and I would
Speaker 1: just feel that sensation and I would do it all
Speaker 1: the time cause it felt good. It felt good, And
Speaker 1: then I would do this thing where like, um, I
Speaker 1: would pull the blanket up to my chin, so like
Speaker 1: any sort of activity with my hands and my penis
Speaker 1: couldn't be detected because I wasn't producing com It wasn't
Speaker 1: like a cleanup situation and parents walking by. And then
Speaker 1: one day I'm from Massachusetts, it's ninety degrees humid, and
Speaker 1: I have the blanket on and I'm watching and it's
Speaker 1: like a sexy like lifetime sort of thing, like shirtless
Speaker 1: men on the beach. I'm fully masturbating and my mom
Speaker 1: walks in. She just looks at me and goes, you're sick. Now,
Speaker 1: to this day, I don't know she knew I was
Speaker 1: masturbating or if it was just like so I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't just turn to her you're sick. But I
Speaker 1: thought maybe she thought like I was, it was sick
Speaker 1: because I I would say I'm cold. Okay, so she
Speaker 1: could have thought you're sick for having a blanket on
Speaker 1: you and ninety degree weather. Yeah, that's I was thinking.
Speaker 1: She was just like, oh, you're serious, But she did
Speaker 1: say pretty judgmental, so yeah, so it probably was that.
Speaker 1: That is literally wow, I'm so happy to know that,
Speaker 1: because did you feel at the time when you were
Speaker 1: like discaster waiting for the first time, like and doing
Speaker 1: it in the weird ways because you don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what to do. I used to hump the ship out
Speaker 1: of my pillows. Okay, I never got into that. I
Speaker 1: thought I was hump for Can I tell you my
Speaker 1: weird wave master beating in the we welcome that basically
Speaker 1: doing a man gina whoa that sounds painful and then
Speaker 1: fucking like like pressing like stimulating from the base whoa. Whoa.
Speaker 1: That was like so like putting your penis between your
Speaker 1: legs and rubbing like, but then the friction of your
Speaker 1: between your legs like kind of like didn't hurt, and
Speaker 1: then it hurts your balls and then you know. By
Speaker 1: the time I was like thirteen, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not no longer tenable, and I fel like
Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I gotta do what I gotta
Speaker 1: do it the right way that I've seen important. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I didn't find out like
Speaker 1: how to actually jack off with the hand motion until
Speaker 1: I was like well into high school. I was sucking
Speaker 1: my pillows and everything until I was old and old.
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me. Yeah, I would be fucking the
Speaker 1: show and I would I would be like, the craziest
Speaker 1: thing was I would be sucking these pillows and then
Speaker 1: one day I would come home and my mom would
Speaker 1: have changed the pillows, and I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: can you confront can you do you remember in Bridesmaids
Speaker 1: when um uh Wendy to Clanton Covey is like, I
Speaker 1: saw a towel the other day, I broke it in half.
Speaker 1: That was how my pillows were. Oh, my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like a freak sick, like a sick freak.
Speaker 1: I was a freak sick, that freak sick. Um, that's
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we're talking about. That was vulnerable. I
Speaker 1: got to confess I in Montreal, in Canada, so I
Speaker 1: must do it about nine or eight or nine. Um
Speaker 1: did it in class one time. But yeah, back when
Speaker 1: it was no clean up. It was like had a
Speaker 1: jacket over me in clads brave And can you imagine
Speaker 1: if that in today? If that happened and you were
Speaker 1: exposed and like it would be like assault, you'd be
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks cust way. I mean, I mean literally be Wilson.
Speaker 1: You'd be Wilson floating in the damn water because you
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be the star, not with Tom Hanks in
Speaker 1: the movie. It's actually real culture number eighty eight. You
Speaker 1: can't be a star, not with Tom Hanks in the movie. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's a real world. And um was that it
Speaker 1: was Karama was what what was that was? Was he
Speaker 1: New York? I remember I remember Karama on the Real World?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? So? I vaguely remember. Okay, they made
Speaker 1: it a huge It was like a straight acting black
Speaker 1: guy who was Danny was the first one, or no,
Speaker 1: maybe not the first, because I think that it was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't that it wasn't on my radar yet. Just um,
Speaker 1: he was this guy, he was hot gay. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm like downplaying that. I think I was probably
Speaker 1: like my first crush. Well to see I think that
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, remember they blurred out his
Speaker 1: boyfriend was in the military. Yeah, that was that literally happened.
Speaker 1: So you watched twenty episodes of like this man falling
Speaker 1: in love with a blurred face and just like and
Speaker 1: MT was like, you'll deal with it. Yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is the gay narrative. I remember everyone being like, and
Speaker 1: it's so amazingly show this and it's like, well they
Speaker 1: show most of it that I remember. Like there was
Speaker 1: that thing of like whenever they put a gay character, character,
Speaker 1: person or lesbian on the show, it was like I
Speaker 1: would I would be so enraptured with it because I
Speaker 1: don't know how you guys felt or like, well you
Speaker 1: didn't really watch Real World at the time, but for us,
Speaker 1: it was like there was no like gay men in media.
Speaker 1: There was no representation. So it was like I'm fascinated
Speaker 1: to know what this real gay person feels because I
Speaker 1: don't know anyone and I don't see anyone. All you
Speaker 1: knew is that it was bad when you were called it,
Speaker 1: it was bad and you didn't want to be it,
Speaker 1: and yeah, how old are you thirty for? So then
Speaker 1: you probably you were literally in like what if I
Speaker 1: like what if? I was like, I'm thirty one? And
Speaker 1: then I was like, back, you have to I would
Speaker 1: tell you. I would, I would leave it in. I'd
Speaker 1: be like this mother. I really hate when people lie
Speaker 1: on their age. It bothers. Yeah, I get it. I
Speaker 1: don't get it. It's it perpetuates proud. It's so especially
Speaker 1: because it's it's actors mostly and now you're going to
Speaker 1: set eight nobody, but even being thirty four, like I
Speaker 1: remember I went down to San Diego. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what story I'm telling. Like you see people and
Speaker 1: you say their age, like if you're meet a guy
Speaker 1: or even anyone and you're like like, oh, I'm thirty four,
Speaker 1: Like oh, well, you don't seem it, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I I was born thirty four years ago. And every day,
Speaker 1: you know, I get a little bit like I don't
Speaker 1: know being it's weird. It's like it's like it's like
Speaker 1: I think when people say a certain age, when people
Speaker 1: respond to it a certain way, like that's it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you you consider that old, like or like there's
Speaker 1: something in you that's like needs to respond to it
Speaker 1: to try to comfort I was me and my best
Speaker 1: friend went to San Diego for New Year's and we
Speaker 1: found ourselves at a random apartment complex with these guys
Speaker 1: that we met at the club, and they were all
Speaker 1: and they were so like. This one guy, he was
Speaker 1: twenty two. He was like so aggressive, like he was
Speaker 1: so confident, and we're sitting in a hot tub and
Speaker 1: he's like putting the moves on me, and I felt
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. I'm like, I'm thirty four, this was this,
Speaker 1: this is the series? Um and uh. He's like kind
Speaker 1: of talking. He's like how old are you? I'm like
Speaker 1: thirty four. He's like that's not too old, and I
Speaker 1: was like okay, and I felt like I had nothing
Speaker 1: to talk to him about. At one point, I literally
Speaker 1: was just like, do you believe in God? I asked
Speaker 1: him if he believe in God, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to connect to him know that
Speaker 1: it is. It is crazy like and the other thing
Speaker 1: about being in a relationship and then coming out of
Speaker 1: it is like you were the last time you were
Speaker 1: single actually was two years ago, and it is a
Speaker 1: long time, so like the landscape is different. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got together with Henry at twenty five. We broke
Speaker 1: up and I was almost twenty eight. And the way
Speaker 1: that the gay community treats a twenty five year old
Speaker 1: is so different from the way it treats are No.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't mean like like sob story. I'm
Speaker 1: just meaning like they the way they shall your age,
Speaker 1: Like when you see the number the numericle on the
Speaker 1: grinder thing, It's like people are so horny for a
Speaker 1: year old. They don't when you're twenty eight. You're like
Speaker 1: out with the maids. It's they're so age of stupid stupid.
Speaker 1: What was gonna say? Um? Oh, I was gonna say that. Um.
Speaker 1: This whole thing about have you guys seen Visible on
Speaker 1: television on Apple TV. It's a documentary sies. It's very good,
Speaker 1: very and like well reviewed documentaryies and Apple all about representation.
Speaker 1: In the first episode is all about like lave under
Speaker 1: scare stuff, and but that the first real gay person
Speaker 1: who was like heavily featured on television was Rosie o'donald
Speaker 1: not Rosie Donald, Paul Out in America. How disconnected. I
Speaker 1: wish you had not said with a question, but I
Speaker 1: wish you'd just been like Rosdonald. It was actually Rosie o'donald. Um.
Speaker 1: It was Paul Out from American Family, like the very
Speaker 1: first reality show and like the sixties, seventies, seventies, he
Speaker 1: was a gay character, gay person. It was the first
Speaker 1: RealD first like and it was like the guy who
Speaker 1: I forgot his name, the guy who started the real
Speaker 1: world as like took inspiration from American Family. This guy
Speaker 1: Paul Loud I think his name is Paul Lynd No, no, no,
Speaker 1: pauland was different. Plan was the comedian who was not
Speaker 1: never out now, which is so crazy. Who was the
Speaker 1: guy who did the Peter Pan I mean the peanut
Speaker 1: butter commercials, who was like, so I don't know that, okay.
Speaker 1: There were always these like flamboyant asked characters on like
Speaker 1: fops on on like shows, and it was always just
Speaker 1: like they came in, said their lines and like blew out.
Speaker 1: And now it's like there was no conversation about what
Speaker 1: they did the second day, lest they focused in his
Speaker 1: first episode because it goes in sort of a historical
Speaker 1: chronological order, and so this first episode focus is really
Speaker 1: a lot on Liberaci and like you really forget like
Speaker 1: he like had an impact and he was doing something
Speaker 1: that like no one had ever seen before, and like
Speaker 1: we like have weirdly like a cultural debt to him,
Speaker 1: I think is like gay man. It's like he was
Speaker 1: like really putting himself out there in a crazy, crazy way,
Speaker 1: like wearing what he wore and was saying what he said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he also was like in denial publicly about his
Speaker 1: sexuality of course until like the bitter end to the
Speaker 1: bitter end, which is so crazy, like to think about
Speaker 1: the fact, like when I saw a rocket man or
Speaker 1: like and to think there was a time where he
Speaker 1: had to even pretend that he wasn't gay, and like
Speaker 1: like like I said, like in the grand clock of time,
Speaker 1: like it just hit the moment where we were able
Speaker 1: to be out, like the fact that like fucking Adam
Speaker 1: Lambert was on an American idol and not out. He
Speaker 1: had to come out after publicly the show, because it's
Speaker 1: crazy that was like we were in college when that
Speaker 1: was happening, Like you were like, it's it's just like
Speaker 1: you can't. Oh, it's pretend that it's like easier. It's
Speaker 1: like people that say that ship where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's easier now to be a POC, which was so
Speaker 1: you do not wish you were a POC. You're a
Speaker 1: white person with a lot of privilege. Like you want
Speaker 1: to know something, I learned a new lesson about racism
Speaker 1: and homophobia every week based on audience response to me
Speaker 1: seeing me on TV, and they lose their fucking minds.
Speaker 1: It's like we're still I mean like I used to
Speaker 1: be like, oh God, who cares, Like like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: representations great, but like we're past it. We're past like
Speaker 1: all this, all this, it's y'all. It's it's still there.
Speaker 1: Like it's pretty crazy. But the this whole Paul out
Speaker 1: thing is so interesting because he was like this. It
Speaker 1: was just really like liberal family. I don't know where
Speaker 1: they were out of it. It It aired on PBS and
Speaker 1: like millions of people saw like this guy who was
Speaker 1: just like yeah, I don't know, Um I'm gay, and
Speaker 1: um I don't really like hanging out with straight people.
Speaker 1: Like he was just like very like liberated in that way,
Speaker 1: and like everyone saw that and they were like they
Speaker 1: came to their own shitty conclusions about him. But but
Speaker 1: then like now you look back and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was like so so so ahead of it anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: but Strangers with Candy also representation. Representation. Stephen Colbur saying
Speaker 1: a faggot in the first episode of Bitch and like
Speaker 1: we let him, we let him, we allow that. It's like,
Speaker 1: I did not know that that was a thing. Oh
Speaker 1: it's a faggy, he says. Faggy. Right, I can't remember that,
Speaker 1: but he's I think he says it throughout the show.
Speaker 1: There's some stuff. There's some stuff you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: I don't think could hold. But you watch in context
Speaker 1: with like the period it came out, and like it's bad.
Speaker 1: Of course it's bad. It's defensive, but like you kind
Speaker 1: of have to laugh at like how ridiculous it is
Speaker 1: because at this, this is this is what Stephen Colber says, Um,
Speaker 1: all right, your homework is to do this is to
Speaker 1: write a paper on this, this, this, and don't make
Speaker 1: it too And he writes on the chalkboard and Grant
Speaker 1: cursive faggy. It's funny. It's just that is so funny,
Speaker 1: and that the fact of the matter is, like you
Speaker 1: would I feel like if you're like someone putting that
Speaker 1: on television, Like we talked about this with Chris and
Speaker 1: Sarah when they when when caper Land says gagging for
Speaker 1: you fagot, Like that was something they had to go
Speaker 1: back and forth with Comedy Central about like whether or
Speaker 1: not like they could just say the word faggot and clear,
Speaker 1: and it's because it's so triggering to people. And I
Speaker 1: will say, we use the word fagot and like to
Speaker 1: describe ourselves like and you know, our friends whatever, like
Speaker 1: because I think it's fine, But we constantly get feedback
Speaker 1: on this podcast every now and then that people are
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with the use of the word fagot. And
Speaker 1: then you forget that, like not everyone has gotten to
Speaker 1: like move away from their home where it's like they
Speaker 1: have friends who say that to each other. A lot
Speaker 1: of people still exist in the world, like like I
Speaker 1: was thinking before, like people around our age exists in
Speaker 1: a world or grew up in a world where like
Speaker 1: Eminem was the most popular musical star and was saying
Speaker 1: faggot in a negative way, in a derogatory way, and
Speaker 1: like a dangerous, violent way for so many years, and
Speaker 1: then everyone was singing around us because it was pop music,
Speaker 1: so it's like weird, it's weird to think about. So
Speaker 1: it does, like I get defensive when people are like,
Speaker 1: don't say faggett. But then I'm like, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: were you talking about Like this is crazy, you're policing language,
Speaker 1: and also we were reclaiming it, but then you remember
Speaker 1: that it's it's different contexts for yeah, people yeager. For
Speaker 1: some people, I don't. I think it's funny. I think
Speaker 1: it's hilarious and like I'm hearing other people say it
Speaker 1: about me. Can I get in on it? And yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll take some of the power away, I feel, But
Speaker 1: totally people get a little visual with me too when
Speaker 1: they when they have problems with it. And again I'm
Speaker 1: not calling anyone now, but it's like I've gotten messages
Speaker 1: that are like you have no idea what it's like
Speaker 1: to like get hit in the face and hear that word,
Speaker 1: and it's like wow, I'm like so sorry that happened
Speaker 1: to you, But you also don't know that I haven't
Speaker 1: had that experience. You don't know that I haven't had
Speaker 1: other experiences. It's like, I feel bad that people have
Speaker 1: trauma about the word, and like, of course we do.
Speaker 1: We all literally at this table have been called it
Speaker 1: in a negative, derogatory way before. But it's like, not
Speaker 1: everyone that's the same place as you about it. So
Speaker 1: it's like interesting to think about it being used in
Speaker 1: media and the fact that like probably no one said
Speaker 1: ship when Stephen Colbert said it out loud and spelled it,
Speaker 1: because it is funny in that context. It's very yes,
Speaker 1: in the in that context, it's very funny. And god,
Speaker 1: what a good show, Paul Donello hot so that you're
Speaker 1: talking about this show this literally I literally was thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, did I bring the mood down? Because I
Speaker 1: was because I told these guys I was listening to
Speaker 1: Cola Scola and I was dying listening to him talk
Speaker 1: about Tinder Gold in London. What a crazy Like, oh
Speaker 1: are you meaning well when you're in a relationship now, right,
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to talk about the openness of it all.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be okay with me sharing this. I'm
Speaker 1: going to share it. But we are open newly because
Speaker 1: he's uh um in a different part of the country,
Speaker 1: like working, And so I think that it's just so
Speaker 1: crazy because I'm in a healthy relationship now and I
Speaker 1: don't have to have that thing that I think maybe
Speaker 1: I had in the last relationship or your boyfriend had,
Speaker 1: where it's like, no, I'm gonna pretend it's fine. I
Speaker 1: want the relationship. I'm gonna pretend to healthy. I don't
Speaker 1: have that at all because and I'm never scared to
Speaker 1: tell him the truth. And I think that's that's red
Speaker 1: flag number one. If you're in a relationship that's like
Speaker 1: trying something and you're not comfortable with it, but you're
Speaker 1: scared to say something. Girl, you gotta get out of
Speaker 1: that because you have that healthy communication. I mean that's internacy.
Speaker 1: That's like exactly talking about it. And when are you
Speaker 1: dating anyone right now? Are you seeing people? I I
Speaker 1: went you guys, I just got back in the game.
Speaker 1: I've been on three dates with one guy one two
Speaker 1: different guys, technically four dates with three different guys. And
Speaker 1: and the first guy said, I did not realize this
Speaker 1: was a date, and I was like, I thought it
Speaker 1: was people. People. Whenever people say that to me, I'm
Speaker 1: like that's huh, that's interesting. We're two gay men like
Speaker 1: who were who are like on the like so like
Speaker 1: wouldn't ordinarily hang out if if it wasn't a date.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, Like, but we had
Speaker 1: hung out a little as friends a little bit soa
Speaker 1: but um but yeah and but yeah this one two
Speaker 1: different guys to take a break. No, okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just engaging in listening. Um, I'm such a people
Speaker 1: please A I'm like, should we end the show early
Speaker 1: just because it's not going great? Thank you so much? Um?
Speaker 1: I um, yeah, I went yeah, these two different guys
Speaker 1: I went on. Just I'm taking it super slow. I
Speaker 1: really feel like speaking not not to be like I'm
Speaker 1: so triggered by my trauma, but like stuff that I
Speaker 1: didn't expect to affect me affect me so hardcore after
Speaker 1: the breakup, Like even being at the gym sometimes, like
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel so uncomfortable. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's like sexual energy here and I have to get
Speaker 1: out of this. And I considered myself like I came
Speaker 1: up as much through the club scene as I did
Speaker 1: the comedy scene, working in bars ever since I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: and I felt like these are my people. And and
Speaker 1: after that experience, I was just I don't know, like
Speaker 1: sex in general, I was like so freaked out and
Speaker 1: it's weird. Well, it is triggering. I remember, like it's once.
Speaker 1: Once it's a hang up in your relationship, it will
Speaker 1: be a hang up afterwards because you'll be thinking I
Speaker 1: don't want that. I mean, well, but I know that
Speaker 1: you're right that it's like I'll have to work through it. Well,
Speaker 1: at least, what I can tell you is that it
Speaker 1: does get it goes away, like it gets better because
Speaker 1: like now that you have had this be a thing,
Speaker 1: like you will know what to look for in your
Speaker 1: next relationship, whether that's a boyfriend relationship or just someone
Speaker 1: that you mess around with or someone that's like you
Speaker 1: try something within. Then it becomes a friend. You know
Speaker 1: what you don't want, which is which is powerful and helpful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and its own guiding force. And I also feel like
Speaker 1: you don't need to have relationships to know what you
Speaker 1: don't want. And like like like I feel like you've
Speaker 1: dated a lot of people form like short periods of time,
Speaker 1: and it's like I feel like you're you can almost
Speaker 1: be thankful sometimes that that's the case because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: at least I didn't have to really really really invest
Speaker 1: in this. That's something that I'm like, that was very
Speaker 1: hard about breaking up with Henry. It was like I
Speaker 1: was like invest in it for years, and you they
Speaker 1: meet your family and you meet their family, and then
Speaker 1: like you become friends with each other, and then it's
Speaker 1: like you said, you're scared to go places because you're triggering.
Speaker 1: It's like there's upsides and downsides to both, but it's
Speaker 1: it's um really hard to move on. Its hard. You'll
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I think I already feel so much
Speaker 1: like I'm in the right direction, but it was so
Speaker 1: hard to I just keep replaying the scenario, keep thinking
Speaker 1: about my ex, really regretting how I behaved because that's
Speaker 1: not like me, that's not how I want to be
Speaker 1: in the world, and then thinking should I reach out,
Speaker 1: and then ultimately it was like this is just like
Speaker 1: the chapter's closed, and it was like a very painful ending,
Speaker 1: but you did get to end it like with an
Speaker 1: iconic window smash it and I said, this is just
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like how fucking insane. No, I love villain,
Speaker 1: but my friends because I was in a really bad
Speaker 1: place for like such a long time, and so my
Speaker 1: friends we would have this text chain and everyone was
Speaker 1: like they were like babysitting me, Like they would come
Speaker 1: over and take me out, and I would just say
Speaker 1: the same goddamn thing over and over again, and every
Speaker 1: they would like text me like this is just the beginning,
Speaker 1: like they would mess with me. You created and that's
Speaker 1: really this can't wait because begin t um. This can
Speaker 1: be off the record. But there is a scene where
Speaker 1: I'm in an audition and Heidi Gardner is going to
Speaker 1: play a Julia Ashton character who and she like because
Speaker 1: I basically do an audition because it was based off
Speaker 1: I had an audition with a puppet and it was
Speaker 1: like in a deep depression and I'm talking about my
Speaker 1: breakup and then I'm doing like a weird voice. But
Speaker 1: there is this scene bow and if you're in in
Speaker 1: l A, I'll you'll have to be in this mega
Speaker 1: you have to make a cameo. And I'm with all
Speaker 1: these games, like because you know, guys, we audition for
Speaker 1: the same thing, and I'm like holding court and everyone's
Speaker 1: chiming in about this, so you shouldn't do this or
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, that's oh, that's great. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. That is such a real thing. It's
Speaker 1: like every every roem I go into here, it's like
Speaker 1: I look at the list and I'm like, oh, my
Speaker 1: friends are left already. Every time I go to an audition,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Brendan scot John, Yes, I see Brendan's
Speaker 1: gone on a lot of lists. He's so sweet, the
Speaker 1: best boy, the best of the best boy. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: shouldn't call the boy, should not call my boy as
Speaker 1: long as you call huh, I don't care what you
Speaker 1: call me, as long as you call me. But then
Speaker 1: the dates. But it sounds like four dates for three guys.
Speaker 1: It sounds like one of them, at least one of
Speaker 1: them is successful. Like there's there's yeah, there's this one guy,
Speaker 1: and he's hilarious. I do guys like funny guys. Funny guys, yeah,
Speaker 1: but people do, not comedian wise necessarily, but guys that
Speaker 1: I mean, my boyfriend makes me laugh so hard. I'm
Speaker 1: dam Honestly, I think there's something like weird, Like I'm
Speaker 1: drawn to guys who aren't that funny. I've been I've
Speaker 1: dated a series of guys where there isn't that emotional?
Speaker 1: There isn't. Yeah, I've dated guys like that for years
Speaker 1: because sex is good. Yes, Sometimes sometimes like there's this
Speaker 1: weird bond. Sometimes I think it's unhealthy, Like I'll just
Speaker 1: you know, the best like relationships, they're like your best friend.
Speaker 1: And I think I've tricked myself into being like I'm
Speaker 1: very attracted to this person and I'm just like kind
Speaker 1: of like abandoning all these wants I have in a relationship.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing to admit that, Like in a relationship, I'm
Speaker 1: not dating people that I click with emotionally, but somewhere
Speaker 1: along the line, I think I just I'm like, well
Speaker 1: it looks good on paper. You know, it's a arbitrary
Speaker 1: that like there's no there's no like stat card that
Speaker 1: like tells you like well, like you know you're compatible
Speaker 1: in this way and that like it's you you learn
Speaker 1: it all, Like it's over time. It's so trial and error,
Speaker 1: like you're like okay, and that's what they say. Like dating,
Speaker 1: it's you're collecting information. Like sometimes it feels bizarre to
Speaker 1: be like I'm hanging out with this human I don't
Speaker 1: know them. I'm seeing if maybe there's like it is weird.
Speaker 1: It is weird, but it's like a super long interview,
Speaker 1: and then it feels so sad when it doesn't work out,
Speaker 1: but it's like, great, now you're one step closer to
Speaker 1: finding if you want a partnership, you're closer to that.
Speaker 1: And also it's like you had all these great memories.
Speaker 1: I think that with the dating of it all, it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like in my early twenties, early my
Speaker 1: mid twenties, before I was ever in a relationship, the
Speaker 1: way I treated dating was like pretty unhealthy because I
Speaker 1: would go out on a date with someone and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, well, it's a success if I sucked them,
Speaker 1: or if if we hook up, it's like a success.
Speaker 1: So oftentimes I would like not be feeling it, but
Speaker 1: I would be like it, well, it'll at least be
Speaker 1: a success if I hook up, because I just wasn't
Speaker 1: very much. And I also think because gay people didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to date in high school, like you
Speaker 1: do all these weird things and making weird rationalizations like
Speaker 1: that in your twenties and late twenties and thirties, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you know even later than that, because we're stunted
Speaker 1: growth because like I said in the ground clock, et cetera.
Speaker 1: It's only been recent that we're allowed to feel these
Speaker 1: things at the same rate as straight people. I feel
Speaker 1: that I felt for me it manifested in going too quickly,
Speaker 1: like you know, like in in middle school, it's like
Speaker 1: a boy and girl like each other and they're like
Speaker 1: they're together like that. I feel like because I relate
Speaker 1: to that, like it's happening so fast, we barely know
Speaker 1: each other, and then it's like so much time spent
Speaker 1: together and kind of unhealthy. Bonda. Well, well, I'm a
Speaker 1: lot of fun guys. I guess. I guess if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this and I'm not in a relationship, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, looking for there's two single men here, oh
Speaker 1: and then one spoken for a guy who's open. Yes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you need to be treat me really spec I
Speaker 1: think it's for all of us. Things for all of us.
Speaker 1: I don't have to treat me at all. You can
Speaker 1: treat me like ship. I like it. Are you like
Speaker 1: on grinder and stuff? No, I can't. It's just it's
Speaker 1: too much stimulus. I'm literally like going on the most
Speaker 1: innocent like hikes and coffee. Yeah, it's good. I think
Speaker 1: it's good for me. I think, like, um, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to not say because I also get attached if
Speaker 1: I cook up with someone too soon, so I have
Speaker 1: to kind of just but I mean, I honestly I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be against having like a fling and whatever. But
Speaker 1: I think we're just coming out of what I just
Speaker 1: came out of. I just feel like I want to
Speaker 1: just take care of myself, make sure i'm not you know, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, this one guy I've gone on a couple
Speaker 1: of days, he's just really smart and super funny and
Speaker 1: like nice. But a lot of times things that are
Speaker 1: red flags for other people feel comforting to me, like
Speaker 1: like when people are U two, they act, they move
Speaker 1: too fast, Like I'm like, that's good because you like me.
Speaker 1: I like to go back to the guy I did
Speaker 1: in a rehab for a second time in this one
Speaker 1: hour podcast. I he was like I can't stop thinking
Speaker 1: about you. I've had to talk to my sponsor about it,
Speaker 1: and in my mind it's like and you're like I've heard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like this feels I feel safe because I think
Speaker 1: I have abandonment or I know now from going to therapy,
Speaker 1: have abandonment issues. So I'm looking for someone who comes
Speaker 1: in really hot and heavy. But the reality is when
Speaker 1: people come at you like that, it's really not about
Speaker 1: you or your connection. A lot of times it's like
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're weird bonding. They're trying to escape
Speaker 1: from some stance and they see you and they're like,
Speaker 1: let me, let me. That's that's an opening. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I found it's easy come, easy go. Like if people
Speaker 1: come in hot and heavy, like they will be the
Speaker 1: first to balance. It doesn't that suck though, like because
Speaker 1: you think that those are the things that like are
Speaker 1: the genuine connections. Like That's what I'm still getting over
Speaker 1: is this like one moment where I was like the
Speaker 1: sparks damn flew and and then it was easy go.
Speaker 1: And then I was just like, but wait a minute,
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be Like and the thing that
Speaker 1: sucks about things like that too is it's like, but
Speaker 1: didn't you feel this thing? It's like it's like you
Speaker 1: feel crazy when I had a guy treat me very
Speaker 1: very badly because because because this person treated me so badly,
Speaker 1: and god, where was I going? I can's it's just
Speaker 1: kind of this thing of like can I know, like
Speaker 1: what happened? That was so yeah. I mean basically, like
Speaker 1: it was just back and forth of like it was
Speaker 1: months and months back and tell stuff. Um No, it
Speaker 1: was like we had hooked up one time and it
Speaker 1: was like it felt like special and we did it
Speaker 1: like all day and like and like this is like
Speaker 1: years ago, and then we would keep in touch over
Speaker 1: the years, like and it was like this thing. And
Speaker 1: then I came to the same city as him and
Speaker 1: it was like we reconnected really hard, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a thing, and he told me
Speaker 1: all these things, and eventually, like I realized that he
Speaker 1: was not the kind of person that could follow up
Speaker 1: and do the kind of things and like be the
Speaker 1: kind of person I thought he could. And it was
Speaker 1: just such a shock because it's so hard to admit
Speaker 1: that you like allowed yourself to get got that way,
Speaker 1: because the feelings feel so real to you, and you're like,
Speaker 1: but you said all these things, and then you realize,
Speaker 1: like there are some guys out there who will say
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get what they want, and there's
Speaker 1: some guys out there who will do whatever needs to
Speaker 1: be done to make themselves feel excited and like you
Speaker 1: entertain themselves and not everyone treats each other well. So
Speaker 1: I think it's good that you're taking it slow because
Speaker 1: you know, you're someone who if you let yourself like
Speaker 1: get hurt, which is a which is a useful thing
Speaker 1: to know about yourself. Yeah, I to your point bowing
Speaker 1: about like, isn't it sad about the spark? Now? I
Speaker 1: do think that there can be that genuine connection and
Speaker 1: that excitement and it's easy and you want to see
Speaker 1: them all the time. I just think there's also like
Speaker 1: that flip side where it's like a little bit of
Speaker 1: unhealthy atment, you know, so it's like just protecting yourself
Speaker 1: from from that. But I I am kind of romantic.
Speaker 1: I do think now that's the I think that's what
Speaker 1: it is. That's where it comes from for me. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, this feels so what's your like, what's your
Speaker 1: thing that will like trap you? By the way, if
Speaker 1: this is two personally, I'm just I love we can't
Speaker 1: get this. I love talking about this. What's my Honestly,
Speaker 1: when you're it's like this rehab guy who's just like
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about you. Rarely has ever happened
Speaker 1: at times that at the time cracky, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it is, it's fun. And and they do
Speaker 1: and it's like that thing they have, like that obsession
Speaker 1: or whatever, and that moment and you feel like the
Speaker 1: most important person and it it feels so good. And
Speaker 1: and then when you're attracted to them and it has
Speaker 1: to match, it has I have to meet them at
Speaker 1: the it has to be like I've gotten it to
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, oh no, you just don't do this,
Speaker 1: like someone who's just like I'm so into you and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I I can't quite because you're not feeling
Speaker 1: it back right, And then I'm pretty I hope I'm
Speaker 1: pretty clear about that. Um, that's cool, honestly, Like it's
Speaker 1: so nice when people are just like, hey, like I'm
Speaker 1: not yeah I could, I could be better. I could
Speaker 1: be better. But anyway, that's yeah, that's my that's hot
Speaker 1: and heavy. I feel they'll get you. These I mean,
Speaker 1: like I remember like the line that there should be
Speaker 1: any for them, those types of people. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: called boys because that's because essentially what they're trying their
Speaker 1: own version of. Well, here's the thing. I's actually a
Speaker 1: real culture. Gay men can be number seven. And the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is like I had this guy
Speaker 1: said to me, like, um, you would never move here
Speaker 1: because he moved in l A. And I was in
Speaker 1: New York at the time. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he really wants me to live there. And then he
Speaker 1: was like, I would come to New York just to
Speaker 1: see you, and I was like, he would fly to
Speaker 1: New York just to see me, And so then three
Speaker 1: weeks later, I did fly to l A just to
Speaker 1: see him, and they ignored me all week. You have
Speaker 1: to be kidding me. It was like sick that it's
Speaker 1: crazy because guys could be so mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't just be honest with me. And then
Speaker 1: months that I finally confronted the person and it was
Speaker 1: like they realized that it was fucked up, but I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, like it's it's it's too late.
Speaker 1: I'm already hurt, and now it's like we can try
Speaker 1: to move forward. And I have tried to move forward,
Speaker 1: but to varying degrees of success. Like once once you've
Speaker 1: heard someone, you've heard someone. Yeah, But I feel like
Speaker 1: if you're just straightforward, you're pretty good. Like if you're
Speaker 1: just like and to go back to my ex for
Speaker 1: one final time in this podcast, like had he just said,
Speaker 1: we opened it up. I'm connecting to this person and
Speaker 1: it's getting out of you know, it's it's developing. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been And maybe it's
Speaker 1: easy to say it now, but I feel like I
Speaker 1: would have because I came to him and I was like,
Speaker 1: what it feels like you guys are texting a lot,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't like him, and so when
Speaker 1: they were together, I was like, I literally was like
Speaker 1: Aaron Brockovich, like saying names and phone numbers and dates.
Speaker 1: I was insane. I tell my friend and the image
Speaker 1: I get it's like I'm this screaming woman in a
Speaker 1: burning building trying to guilt people and everyone's running from
Speaker 1: the building like it's done. And that was it was
Speaker 1: so hard to let go. But yeah, so hard because well,
Speaker 1: it's a long relationship. It's a long relationship. The clause
Speaker 1: are in. But listen, I think that we can all
Speaker 1: say that as a result of this conversation, we've all
Speaker 1: moved forward from anyone that's heard us in the past,
Speaker 1: and we actually don't care. And um, we're like du
Speaker 1: alipa in that song New Rules, because here's the rules. One,
Speaker 1: don't pick up the phone. You know he's only calling
Speaker 1: because he's drunken alone to don't let him in you'll
Speaker 1: have to kick him out again. Three, don't beat his friend.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna wake up in his bed in
Speaker 1: the morning. And if you're under him, you were getting
Speaker 1: over him. If you're under him, you ain't getting over him.
Speaker 1: I got New Rules, I got him. Wow, you've never
Speaker 1: experienced those lyrics until you've heard it like that. It's
Speaker 1: actually poets so powerful. I was listening to that song
Speaker 1: to a great I've rediscovered da in such a way
Speaker 1: because she's got new music out now, banging new music.
Speaker 1: You discovered to it in such a way well, because
Speaker 1: she's been preparing for her return and we've been living
Speaker 1: for her. But the song New Rules is so good.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's so good. Do you know what? No,
Speaker 1: I don't, And I'm like, this is my biggest fear.
Speaker 1: Because I listened to Benito's Love you guys did, but
Speaker 1: it was amazing and he's so hilarious. I love him,
Speaker 1: and you guys went this deep dive in music, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I was like, I
Speaker 1: know nothing about this. I'm literally going to be like
Speaker 1: on the show, being like, did anybody watch Cheer? Have
Speaker 1: you talked about it at the pod? We've talked about
Speaker 1: on the pod. We filled each other and he filed
Speaker 1: me on the circle. I filled him on Cheer. I
Speaker 1: loved Cheer. I thought it was great. Yeah. Morgan was like,
Speaker 1: so I was. Morgan was my like, yes, that like
Speaker 1: arc where she you knew she was so captivated by
Speaker 1: Monica because Monica was a mom. She never had the
Speaker 1: treaty gave her attention and respect and the amount of
Speaker 1: respect that they and she respects them and she shows
Speaker 1: like it's like she shows up for them, and it
Speaker 1: was really cool to see. And of course she's you know,
Speaker 1: you hear about her. If I didn't watch the show,
Speaker 1: you might think she's this over the top personality and whatever. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. But the way I feel about her
Speaker 1: is that it just shows that she's just she who
Speaker 1: she is. When she said the thing about don't come
Speaker 1: from my boys about games, I love that that. Did
Speaker 1: you guys already talk about that? We did not talk
Speaker 1: about that. She's um kind of doing her kind of
Speaker 1: confessional as she's driving, and they finally, there's so many
Speaker 1: diverse people. There's so many people in the LGBT family
Speaker 1: in UM on that team, and it's kind of random
Speaker 1: because they're in the middle of nowhere. And then she
Speaker 1: even said she's like I leaned conservative and she leans conservative,
Speaker 1: and yet she's like, um, she's like, I had a
Speaker 1: long conversation with my many conversations with my pastor you
Speaker 1: know about it, talking about you know, being gay, and
Speaker 1: she's just like, don't come for my boys, because they're
Speaker 1: my boys. Don't come for them. That's powerful and of all,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking all the times I've seen people
Speaker 1: put gay people down, all the times in my life.
Speaker 1: And she's sitting there and she's like, don't you dare
Speaker 1: And it was like all right, And she has power
Speaker 1: in that situation where everyone in this community respects her. Now,
Speaker 1: like the whole country and slash world knows about her.
Speaker 1: It's like she like kind of used to that in
Speaker 1: a very smart way where she was like, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is like not the way the right way to
Speaker 1: go about this. Yeah, I loved it. You gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. I gotta get over myself and
Speaker 1: watch it. I do this weird thing where when everyone
Speaker 1: says they love something, it takes me months. Parasite. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch Paris until last week and then and then
Speaker 1: he was incredible. Yes, I mean it's amazing. I just
Speaker 1: I just something happens to me where I'm like, I'll
Speaker 1: get to it. I'll get to it. And then I
Speaker 1: see these weird things that everyone kind of likes, like
Speaker 1: three times, like I saw I saw Bombshell three times,
Speaker 1: and also Knives Out three times and that was good.
Speaker 1: I saw a Little Women three times. These are all
Speaker 1: these are all good things. But it's like my thing
Speaker 1: is like I find something I like and I watch
Speaker 1: and listen to it repeatedly and don't do anything else.
Speaker 1: Like when there's a new album that comes out, I'll
Speaker 1: listen to the single and only that, like I'm afraid
Speaker 1: to listen to the rest of the album. It's really weird.
Speaker 1: It's a sick disease. But you just you're like that type.
Speaker 1: You're obsessive and you just love what you love. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like that type. I'm obsessive and I love
Speaker 1: what I love and I'm focused and I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: I and I'm Okay, side note about Paris. I just
Speaker 1: don't mentioned my breakup for the third time in the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's actually kid. I would the most disturbing things would
Speaker 1: soothe me because I was a movie. Yeah, just during
Speaker 1: that time in my life, because it came out when
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly I could do was sit there
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was just like felt like
Speaker 1: I had had been hit by a bus. I was like, breakdown,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's horrible, and it was funny to just
Speaker 1: to like show that. I went to um Joshua Treaty
Speaker 1: to try to like shake the experience, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm starting over. And I found myself at a pizza
Speaker 1: place talking to two women I didn't know about my breakup,
Speaker 1: and I just listened. They were so sweet, and then
Speaker 1: the woman's like, you know, I know what you're going
Speaker 1: through because when I I had a cancer last year
Speaker 1: and I was in the military and I actually lost
Speaker 1: my job and it was really hard because during it
Speaker 1: all culminated in a breakup. So I was losing my
Speaker 1: and she's and she's not trying to make me feel
Speaker 1: she's trying to connect, and I'm like, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: an open relationship that was on the rocks ending and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this changed me forever. And she casually mentions
Speaker 1: her cancer and her and everything, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. I've been talking your
Speaker 1: ear off for thirty minutes about this breakup and you
Speaker 1: went through so much. And she's like, you know, but
Speaker 1: pain is pain, and it was. And then she was like,
Speaker 1: but also I drowned less. Oh my god, pain is pain. Heway,
Speaker 1: I saw Parasite when I was really like depressed, and
Speaker 1: I found it comforting. Yeah, that movie gets It's a
Speaker 1: great really tough to watch at the end, like like
Speaker 1: in terms of like what happens to it's brilliant, brilliant, amazing.
Speaker 1: I think it's time for I don't think so, it's
Speaker 1: actually is I've actually been afraid of this. Yeah, were wingers,
Speaker 1: I don't think honey. We'll just in case you didn't
Speaker 1: know what I don't think, so, honey, use I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what it is now, which is our one minute
Speaker 1: segment where we take a minute to ramp to get
Speaker 1: something in pop culture that is kind of like making
Speaker 1: us feel I don't know, not so good, and we
Speaker 1: want to talk about it in a negative way, but
Speaker 1: cathartic way for and we do that energetically energetically. Do
Speaker 1: you have something I have? I do have something. Can
Speaker 1: you also talk about something? Because it's anything in like
Speaker 1: culture and you're in your world, anything in the word.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll hear ours and you'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all very silly. Okay, So you want to go first.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Quimby doubters, Okay, honey.
Speaker 1: I know you like to make your jokes. I know
Speaker 1: some people out there like to make jokes. But my
Speaker 1: my thing right now is that I have a show
Speaker 1: on Quimby and you all have to download it or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mad. And I think you should doubt
Speaker 1: it because you should not doubt. I think you should
Speaker 1: not doubt it, should download it because there's gonna be
Speaker 1: good ship on it. Like Game Show, My Show with
Speaker 1: Dave Mazzoni, which is launching with Quimby on April six
Speaker 1: and has lots of amazing guest stars like Bowen Yang.
Speaker 1: I think there's also going to be lots of good
Speaker 1: ship on there. Like Christie Teagans show, Christie's Court. Lots
Speaker 1: of good shit on there, like Steven Spielberg has a
Speaker 1: thing that's coming out, and you should just look at
Speaker 1: the roster of talent involved and you'll like it. Quimby doubters.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any more jokes about Quimby
Speaker 1: because it's important to me that it goes well. However,
Speaker 1: I do understand that tweeting jokes also gets the name
Speaker 1: Quimby in everyone's mind. So continued to tweet, continue to talk, talk,
Speaker 1: talk to your thing, but you can never book my shine.
Speaker 1: And that's the one with the David Mazzoni shout out,
Speaker 1: shout out, and you know Dave from the Diversity, Okay,
Speaker 1: so funny, he loves you. He described it that he
Speaker 1: had the Amorosa storyline. Yes, he said he had the
Speaker 1: Amarossa storyline of CBS Diversity and that he wasn't there
Speaker 1: but had like when he would come in, he felt
Speaker 1: like like no one liked him because he was working
Speaker 1: on game show, and like he would have to miss
Speaker 1: a lot of rehearsals, and so he had he was
Speaker 1: like a shady character at the beginning, and then was
Speaker 1: beloved by the wow that we love that. That's such
Speaker 1: a good arc. He loves you. Oh, I think he's
Speaker 1: really funny. Yeah, he's he said, you know who gets it,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Valley. I'm like, And then I said, we had
Speaker 1: a lunch and he talked about Aladdin. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is like Aladdin was so born that I blocked it out.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Aladdin, night stick, it doesn't stick. Okay, I
Speaker 1: will not remain speechless, um bowen. Yeah. Yeah, here's the
Speaker 1: thing about you. Mm hmmm, it's your I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: On this the episode with Jimmy Fowler. Okay, and your
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Cool party hotels, Like,
Speaker 1: make hotels what they're supposed to be, which is where
Speaker 1: people go to sleep at night and not have a
Speaker 1: pool situation or a roof situation. Stop trying to make
Speaker 1: hotels cool. They're not. I remember when hotels, the pinnacle
Speaker 1: of hotels were damn Best Western's Hilton's and you got
Speaker 1: what you paid for, no frills, no musk, no fuss. Okay,
Speaker 1: and now now you got your standards and your gangs.
Speaker 1: It's bullshit. It's bullshit. If you throw a party at
Speaker 1: a hotel, I will lose respect for you, darling, and
Speaker 1: you better throw your birthday party at a bull long alley.
Speaker 1: Bring me back to the days of modest birthday parties
Speaker 1: without having some likely limp bar with fucking rat ratan
Speaker 1: and wicker bullshit all around. Let's go back to basics.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to some sex site specific birthday party
Speaker 1: that it's not a hotel, because who are you fooling?
Speaker 1: No one's sleeping there, no one's drinking there. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's in between worlds. And that's when I'm
Speaker 1: actually already happy about that. Yeah, like these really cool
Speaker 1: hotels like you know, Yotel and like New York, like
Speaker 1: are these psycho hotels? I'm like, this is kind of amazing,
Speaker 1: but it's it's just also weird, and it's like, what
Speaker 1: where did these people come from? I also want to
Speaker 1: say no frills, no must, no fuss. That's actually a
Speaker 1: real culture number twenty five frills, no must, no fuss.
Speaker 1: And my favorite birthday I ever had was at a
Speaker 1: roller skating rink, and I think the community should do
Speaker 1: that more that more. There isn't you have you ever
Speaker 1: been to my boyfriend and Brendan. They go a lot.
Speaker 1: Vicky l A. Gays are very good at the roller
Speaker 1: skating culture. Where where is it? Can you plug? It's
Speaker 1: in Glendale. I think it's called Moonlight roller Derby. It's
Speaker 1: so funn They actually even have a gay night fun.
Speaker 1: We should go, we should go, we should go Wednesday. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday's right, it's happening. Okay, next time, next time,
Speaker 1: next time. I'm here on Wednesday. And then in York
Speaker 1: over the summer's people in Prospect Park gay nights and skating.
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp and I went to Beyonce Night last year
Speaker 1: and in Prospect Park all the gays were out. It
Speaker 1: was so fun. That is everyone knows that a roller
Speaker 1: skate well, I blade. I was a blader as a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a big blader. I was walking. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was good enough. Yeah. I could never figure out like
Speaker 1: skateboards either. I just yeah, I tried to skateboard in college,
Speaker 1: like you know, and that's your pastor wiped out pretty
Speaker 1: bad and I was done. Yeah. No, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not for us skateboards or straight culture. It's actually culture.
Speaker 1: Number twenty one skateboards, skate rate boards skateboards are straight
Speaker 1: culture that they should be called straight boards. Okay, now
Speaker 1: I think it's type for Jimmy Fowley's I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: And it actually is time, and Jimmy, your time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Honey. My sister who forgot my
Speaker 1: grandma died twice. Honey, I told you about Christmas. Okay,
Speaker 1: I cried on the phone. Of course, it was a
Speaker 1: sad day. Six months later, when we grabbed lunch in
Speaker 1: l A with our aunt, you said, I really miss Mark.
Speaker 1: I want to meet his kids. I miss Grandma Fouley,
Speaker 1: to which we said she passed and she and you said,
Speaker 1: no one told him, and I said, I told you.
Speaker 1: Six months after that U uh uh, Christmas card with
Speaker 1: twenty dollars from Grandma Fouley was circulated to you from
Speaker 1: Dad saying this is obviously the last part from Grandma Fouley.
Speaker 1: And you you called me and said that was kind
Speaker 1: of shady that Dad said that, because it's implying that
Speaker 1: she may die soon. And I said, honey, she died.
Speaker 1: This is truly the third time I told you you
Speaker 1: need to remember this stuff. You are a drug addict.
Speaker 1: I love you, honey, No, you are a drug addict.
Speaker 1: I love you. It's true, you are a drug addict.
Speaker 1: I love you. Wait a minute, on Christmas Day that
Speaker 1: she's an icon. You told her on Christmas Day that
Speaker 1: she had passed away. I told it was it was
Speaker 1: a few days I think before after Christmas. I was
Speaker 1: home and she was she was away. She was back
Speaker 1: in l A. Because you have a fucking holiday anchoring
Speaker 1: the damn memory of oh Grandma fui. It was haunting,
Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is scary because it really
Speaker 1: was me each time saying and she said, no one
Speaker 1: told me. My favorite part is the third time where
Speaker 1: she received a card and the dad said, this is
Speaker 1: obviously the last card from Grandma Alley and she said,
Speaker 1: it's actually shady that he's implying I's been dead for there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. She's like, she's like, obviously implying. Honest,
Speaker 1: she's so righteous and like yeah, and she's like, come
Speaker 1: onto this theory that I had. Why would he imply this?
Speaker 1: Christina Fowley, Oh my god, damn mind listen to this.
Speaker 1: I don't even think you get reception to podcasts at
Speaker 1: your house. Why would he imply this. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good Grandma Fowley. Oh no, we'll
Speaker 1: rest in peace and we respect and we love and
Speaker 1: we remember Grandma Fouley. Um. Oh she never my grandparents
Speaker 1: never sent money. Yeah, that's but they were in a
Speaker 1: different country. Yeah. Actually they gave me plenty of money,
Speaker 1: just Chinese New Year in the red envelopes they gave me. Um.
Speaker 1: This is a fantastic episode. We had the best time.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. You are out of content role
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Speaker 1: O s. You really do and like your friends, like
Speaker 1: not to be too corny, but like your friendship, your
Speaker 1: back and it's just it's awesome and I think that
Speaker 1: you guys see what you do. I'm such a huge
Speaker 1: fan of you. Guys. We we We've been admiring and
Speaker 1: loving you from far for the time. You truly are.
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, we never really got to meet
Speaker 1: and hang out because of being in different cities, but
Speaker 1: I'm so excited we're in the same city now and
Speaker 1: I wish we would hang out more. We have to. Okay,
Speaker 1: you hear it here and you heard her right now,
Speaker 1: and actually if you don't see me and Jimmy hang
Speaker 1: out together, just know that um kill us, skilts us,
Speaker 1: or just know that intense drama happened right after we
Speaker 1: wrap and that and actually, if you asked me about it,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Yes, I will spill all the tea
Speaker 1: come on, um, But for now, until then, we do
Speaker 1: end every episode with a song, and that song is
Speaker 1: drop everything now, eat me in the pouring rain, Kiss
Speaker 1: me on the sad, take away the pain. Because us
Speaker 1: see sparks flack every Remember when I just said and
Speaker 1: I see sparks fot I said, fee sparks flack. Guys,
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, It's me Matt Rogers again. Just wondering if
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Speaker 1: competing on each episode to be called gay as fuck
Speaker 1: and earned the title of Queen of the Streets. Who
Speaker 1: will win? What are the shenanigans we put them through?
Speaker 1: Does anything that happens matter? All these questions are more
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