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Speaker 1: Literally hello to everyone out there listening. It's me Matt

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Speaker 1: Rodgers of this very podcast Laws Culture Usas, And before

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Speaker 1: we get into this episode, I just wanted to hop

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Speaker 1: on here and tell you guys all about something I'm

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Speaker 1: extremely excited about, which is the premiere of my show

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Speaker 1: Game Show on Quimby on April six. So if you

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Speaker 1: haven't heard me talk about Game Show before, it's a

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Speaker 1: show that I created with not just a friend of

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Speaker 1: the pod, not even just family of the pods, sister

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Speaker 1: of the pod, Dave Mazzoni, where we take two straight

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Speaker 1: contestants too straight mail contestants and put them head to

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Speaker 1: head to see which one of them will emerge victorious

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Speaker 1: as honorarily gay as fun and Rain as Queen of

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Speaker 1: the Straits. So we take two straight dudes, we put

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Speaker 1: them through our challenges, which are you know, pop culture

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Speaker 1: trivia challenges, emotional challenges, physical challenges, and one emerges victorious.

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Speaker 1: So yes, um, this is two straight people competing to

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Speaker 1: be called gay as fuck, and that's one reason why

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Speaker 1: is not so bad. So that doesn't entice you enough,

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Speaker 1: I did just want to share some of the guest

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Speaker 1: stars that we're gonna be having on the show. Each

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Speaker 1: them on their journey to win the title of Montorelli

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Speaker 1: Gay as Fun and they are as follows Nicole Buyer,

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Speaker 1: Joe Kim Booster, Brendan Skinnell, Patty Harrison, Trixie Mattel, Liza Trigger,

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Speaker 1: Darcy Cardon, and of course you know, we had to

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Speaker 1: book the one and only Bowen Yang for the gig

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Speaker 1: that is Game Show on Quimby. April six is the

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Speaker 1: Super super excited. We've seen all the episodes and we're

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Speaker 1: of Lost Culture e stas here we go, look mad,

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Speaker 1: oh I see you? Why why? And look over there?

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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding Dong. Lost Culture

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Speaker 1: is just calling itchy? Itchy? Why itchy? I've told you

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Speaker 1: this right? Oh yeah, what's with your body? I think

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Speaker 1: it's stress hives or something. But I need to go

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, I'm uninsured. How could you be

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Speaker 1: an unsured? Because I was kicked off SAG insurance because

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Speaker 1: I just didn't sign up in time for this next year.

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Speaker 1: Because for a second there they booted me off because

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Speaker 1: and I don't have MPGY insurance, so I just don't

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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to argue with you about it,

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Speaker 1: You're in two unions, I mean two unions, but they

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Speaker 1: to like pay on time. I'll say this anything. If

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Speaker 1: is you have you slept with anyone? Weird? I truly

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Speaker 1: shake their hand and have sex with them. Yes. Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you God, that's all I want. I just

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Speaker 1: sexual attraction, but truly it all nothing were like starshour

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Speaker 1: Tell her swift song did not say everything. Now meet

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Speaker 1: me and the boy rain, kiss me on the side,

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Speaker 1: sad walk like I want to add more melisma into

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Speaker 1: But that that melisma is fucking up the tempo and

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Speaker 1: why don't you want to change it? Because you know

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Speaker 1: she can't execute it? Now what I liked about the

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Speaker 1: Ryan Adams cover album and of course he is canceled.

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Speaker 1: fucked up to Mandy Moore. And it's actually real culture

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Speaker 1: you actually don't. But but Ryan Adams cover a while

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Speaker 1: I would do this. I would scream, Jimmy mean, Jimmy me, no,

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Speaker 1: And see the beautiful thing about that is you were

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Speaker 1: not post taste. So he I think I see him

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Speaker 1: as a true genius. Um White people doing improv is

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Speaker 1: respect more than like anything, Yeah, Malawa is done? Is

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Speaker 1: that Jimmy Fowley put up the I'm a Stone so

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Speaker 1: anything Malaala has done. I would agree. I think that

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Speaker 1: Long Boulder City, Like what a genius idea. That's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, a weird thing to say, but you know,

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Speaker 1: He's a groundlings that that he um Oh his web

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Speaker 1: series Go Go Boy Interrupted, I mean icon of culture. Also,

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Speaker 1: part in the Comeback, big part in the other two

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Speaker 1: Huge and It's Day tuned for season two, Stay and

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Speaker 1: that's a spoiler. And that's a spoiler. And he has recently.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy works hard because he just finished

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Speaker 1: writing this project that he's gonna tell us more about.

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Speaker 1: We're very curious. We're gonna get the scoop. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the scoop. Just finished writing. He was just shooting

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Speaker 1: it today before we came here. The project is called Windshield. Yes,

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Speaker 1: short film, short film, wind Shield, upcoming, upcoming. But truly

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Speaker 1: he came in with a purpose to tell us about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And actually, can I tell you something. I had lunch

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Speaker 1: soul connection. We get each other, we see each other.

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Speaker 1: I know he felt the same. He's smiling, smiling. You

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Speaker 1: know what I say. We bring him in, so everyone,

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Speaker 1: please welcome into your ears. Jimmy bally guys, imagine that

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Speaker 1: was what you bring. It's a huge and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that was so nice. Well that's how we feel. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is truly a dark peak into who uploads it?

424
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: Just that this like the comedy like that, like you know,

425
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: Green Space NYC. I'll call them out. They've I've had

426
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 1: the ask out to my managers to respectfully ask them

427
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: to take it down because people because you're able to

428
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: and they haven't yet, so I don't think they will,

429
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: so it's fine. But if you're listening, this is a call.

430
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: This is you getting called out. I will say this like,

431
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: this is so weird and random at this happened. But

432
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: I came up at U C B and before I

433
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: left for New York, I for for l A. Rather,

434
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: I was on a team called Characters Welcome, which is

435
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: three to five minute original characters. Every month you have

436
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: to come up with a new one, and recently some

437
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: someone like slaying a character and the channel like Blue

438
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on the on the team for

439
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: like two years, so towards the end of me being

440
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: on the team, I could kind of feel myself like

441
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: like not slacking, but well was righting up and like

442
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: I my ideas weren't as good and like I wasn't

443
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: like feeling writing original characters anymore, and my writing like

444
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: I didn't do as many like punch ups on it.

445
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: So I wrote this character called a straight gay teen,

446
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: which is like love signmon character that's like, I'm just

447
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: like you. I have two rich white parents and i'll

448
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: dog and I'm a little gay and here's my sad story.

449
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: And it was just kind of picking on love Sign

450
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's funny, but it's crazy because the

451
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: way it popped off on YouTube was like it is

452
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: so many views in such a positive response, and I'm like, really,

453
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: because I'm watching this and I feel like it needs

454
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: a joke pass like bad. And that's when I think,

455
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: like maybe I don't know what's actually good and I'm

456
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: just like I have like such like a gay humor brain,

457
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: like I just think what I think is funny and

458
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it is. But it's like

459
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: that's so great that you think this is good, but

460
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: like I don't even I don't even stand by this,

461
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: and I think it would be that that I would

462
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: take down just because I think it needs more joke passes.

463
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: People like it, and then I put up something I'm

464
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: proud of and they're like, no, okay, you're bragging. Stop. No, No,

465
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: It's weird how some stuff people will respond to something.

466
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: But then also it's like that weird something just hits

467
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: the right person shares it. It's a phenomenon um. But yeah,

468
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: I felt that too, like something I'm like, I cannot

469
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: wait to share this with the world and no one cares. Yeah,

470
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: it's it's well before we before we take our first break,

471
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: I want to know about Winsfield. Before the break. We're

472
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna break. We're gonna take the break, and I'm going

473
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: to tell you a traumatizing Oh I love it. I

474
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: actually love trauma. After this, we're back with Jimmy and okay,

475
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: what is this tell us about Windshield? Okay, so I'm

476
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: gonna tell you so I and this is my first

477
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: time just sharing it in the open, so we're honored.

478
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this is my first time talking about it.

479
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: But I was in this two year relationship. Actually, MAT

480
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: think we had broken up when we when we were

481
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: when we hung out, you were like in a really

482
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: tough spot because you were struggling very badly with the relationship.

483
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: And then I remember after about a week or two

484
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: after we hung out, I had heard that or I

485
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: think you had like said something online that you guys

486
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: broke up, and I was like, oh, they must have

487
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: broken out. Okay, that's so crazy. If I said it online,

488
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: that's no. No, or something where you were like you

489
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: mentioned like single, you described yourself a single, not like

490
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: cutting my Instagram at just me being like I am no,

491
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: But I remember I like, it wasn't something you told me.

492
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: It was like you you described yourself as like being single,

493
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I guess sort of import

494
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what that was. It's well,

495
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: I had so basically I had was with this guy

496
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: for two years. We like had a really positive relationship.

497
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: It was no like fighting ang or whatever. We ended

498
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: up opening the relationship up, um, and you know how

499
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: that goes. I think for some people it's fine, but

500
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be dicey. Anyways, he ended up like

501
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: dating our married friend who and then they like they

502
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: the three of us were going to hook up and

503
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: then they hooked up on their own and in my head,

504
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's weird. But I'm like, do you

505
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: like the person? He and I was like, it's my acts.

506
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I was like do you like you know? And he's

507
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, I don't. I don't like him,

508
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: like and he's like, I wish you would drop it.

509
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. But they would be texting all the time,

510
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: and like I, they would go out and and I

511
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: told him, whoever, if we hook up with someone, just

512
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: let the other person know, so it's everything's discreet, it's

513
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: on the table. And then one time we were together

514
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: and I saw on his phone, like I said like, hey,

515
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: what's parking like at your place? And I'm like, oh,

516
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: did you hang out? And he's like yeah, and I'm like,

517
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: oh did you hook up? And I was like okay,

518
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: And I felt super uncomfortable, but I didn't feel empowered

519
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: enough to say hey, I'm really uncomfortable with this, but

520
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: I was like, just moving forward, just let me know

521
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: if you hook up. And it happened again. Anyways, long

522
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: story short, like, I think you can probably edit all

523
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: of that out well, but then I want to know.

524
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: I have a question though, and while this is all happening,

525
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: do you guys still have like a healthy sexual relationship? No?

526
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Not really, so, Like basically we broke up the person

527
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: that I had thought that he had a connection with

528
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: that he's denied the whole time. He I found out

529
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: that that person had told my ex that he had

530
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: feelings for him. When we were still together and we

531
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: were all friends, we were like going out to conscience

532
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: him and his husband, but this thing was happening. It

533
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: was happening, And when I found out that they were together,

534
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: I went crazy and I ended up destroying his car

535
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: windshield of his Audie God in a jealous raid. You

536
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: bust the windows. I busted the windows, and your ex

537
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: boyfriends and my ex boyfriend. And this all happened at

538
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: gold Him Hollywood. I'll let you decide what's the scariest

539
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: part of this story. And then this is like really cryptic,

540
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: like hopefully this makes you laugh because I think it's

541
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: super dark. As I'm in my car about to drive

542
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: away after I like I threw a water bottle at

543
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: his windshield, I'm about to drive away, He's like Jimmy,

544
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: He's like my fucking car. And I turned him and

545
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: I go, this is just the beginning. And I haven't

546
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: seen him since what So was it just the beginning?

547
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: It was the end. See that's like sweet and endearing.

548
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so you guys. So what's so

549
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: weird is that I thought we'd be friends forever and

550
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Windshield and so Windshield and it's like, because I feel

551
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: like a breakup story is not super like I would

552
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: have to be pretty delusional to think like, oh West, Hollywood,

553
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: open relationship ending is like my sobs. But it's weird

554
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: being comedian because you're you know, you're happy enough being

555
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: sillient performing And I could not stop crying for like

556
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: four months, like I every day four hours, and um

557
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I ended up going to therapy for it and talking

558
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: about it. And I was adopted and I was in

559
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: like I never really knew my my biological parents, and

560
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: so there were all these weird parallels of like me

561
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: thinking I was replaced and like I had a really

562
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: unhealthy attachment to my ex and so but it would

563
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: like I would go to auditions and casting directors were like, hey,

564
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: how are you, and I'd be like not good, and

565
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: I would tell them the story of my breakup, like

566
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: it was so inappropriate. I would go to I would say, Jimmy,

567
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: don't talk about it. Don't talk I was going to

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: my friend's wedding. I was like, do not talk about it,

569
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: go have fun, laugh, and then cut to me telling

570
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: the bride. The bride who you have so little time with,

571
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: the fact could work it in was shocking, so um,

572
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: and it was just it was just really sad because

573
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I also was really angry that, like I said, all

574
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: this hateful stuff, I threatened to beat up his new

575
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend if I ever saw them in West Hollywood, which

576
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: by the way, is where they both live. And it

577
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: was really it was really sad. Yeah, it's hard, and

578
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, people, I don't really follow you for like

579
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: shoehorning that into every conversation for a while with anybody,

580
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: because it's it's so like top of mind for you

581
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: and it's all you're thinking. I identify with it. Actually

582
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: tell myself all the time, like, probably not a good

583
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: thing to bring this up, like this probably isn't like

584
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 1: nothing stopping it, but you do it because I don't know.

585
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I think maybe it is like a flaw. But sometimes

586
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: it is just like when these thoughts consume you, especially

587
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: a relationship ending because of that, like that open relationship thing.

588
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: It's really it's it's a it's a touchy topic, I

589
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: think for the gay community because it's so works for

590
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: some people and so doesn't for everyone. That doesn't work

591
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: for it, and when it doesn't work for you, you

592
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: feel like you're failing. And I don't judge anyone, like

593
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: I know people who are in open relationships are so

594
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: happy it works for them, And so I think I

595
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: had this vibe actually too straight people like, look, I'm queer,

596
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: this is what we do. Cut to me in pain,

597
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: Like I really, I really had, Um, I really went

598
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: through it, but um yeah, it's kind of a touchy

599
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: situation and everybody is different, and I think, like you

600
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: just have to do what works for you and it's

601
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: okay if it doesn't work for you. But I had

602
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: basically lost myself and saying that I was comfortable with

603
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: things I wasn't comfortable with and not trusting my instinct,

604
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: like I knew something was off and I just I

605
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: loved my ext so much and I still even think

606
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: he's a wonderful person, you know what I mean, despite everything,

607
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: and I've just never had that thing where like you

608
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: never talked to the person again that it's such a

609
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: bad ending, You're like, never again. Well, I'll say I

610
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend for two and a half years and

611
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: we actually one of the real one of the reasons,

612
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: and we talked about this. One of the reasons why

613
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: we kind of realized that wasn't working was because we

614
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: tried being open and it was just toxic. And I

615
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: think that, unfortunately, I have to admit that I was

616
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of I was. I was. I think I was.

617
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I think I was like the toxic person in the

618
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: relationship where I was just like not willing to make

619
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: things better with my boyfriend because I don't think I

620
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: was really confronting the things that were wrong because I

621
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: did want to stay in the relationship. I loved him

622
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: so much, and I was trying to convince him and

623
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: myself that the open relationship would like save us. But

624
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: that's the mistake I think that gets made, is like,

625
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship that's not working, the solution

626
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: is not let's go to other people or at me, um,

627
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: try to make someone else comfortable with something and then

628
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be better. Like it can only be worked

629
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: on individually with yourself and you can't drag the other

630
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: person down. And it is selfish to stay in something

631
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: because of wanting to keep the relationship because there's another

632
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: person involved. And so I think that you tell yourselves

633
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot of you tell yourself a lot of lies

634
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: about like um, how it will be later, or like

635
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: this is the answer, and it just it breaks it down.

636
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: So fortunately for me, me and that person, Henry, are

637
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: still friends and we still work together. But it did

638
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: end not well, and I think it could have ended

639
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: better and we had to really work on it, but

640
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: we stayed living together for six to seven months, and

641
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: that was kind of part that bothered me to us

642
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: as as a third party, being like you gotta move out.

643
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: But I also think that's why we're still friends. That's right,

644
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: because imagine if you had ended the relationship with your

645
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: boyfriend and you had been worse to still live with

646
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: him plopping back in. And it's weird because I've seen

647
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: we live very close to each other, so I've seen

648
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: him in passing a few times and it's just we

649
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: just don't even acknowledge each other. Have you had that

650
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: bone where it's so bad you won't even say really,

651
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: not really, I'm like because I just don't. I just

652
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: have like a pretty like low sample, but I whatever.

653
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: What the thing that struck me though, was that you

654
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: were like that this married couple was like slowly being

655
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: like folded into your lives though you know what I'm saying.

656
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: It's like that's the thing that kind of like would

657
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: drive me crazy. It's that like you know, it's like

658
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: it's this insidious thing of like, oh no, like what

659
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: we're just they're going to come to this concert with us,

660
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and you're like cool, and then like you suspect something

661
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: and then you can't really you don't know how to

662
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: bring it up to be secure, and yet the whole

663
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: time it's like this is not okay, this is not

664
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: okay with me, And then you're, well, there can't be

665
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: anything going on, like he's married, you know what I mean.

666
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: But I did think he was my friend, and I

667
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: felt like very betrayed. Like that's the part that hurts him, Yeah,

668
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: is that is that you grieve what you have with

669
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: your boyfriend, but also like you thought your friend would

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: have been it was so sketchy. And then my ex

671
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: was like my side of the street is clean. By

672
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: the way, his new boyfriend's ex husband now because now

673
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: they're split. I went to fight my ex in the

674
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: streets and think that your side of the streets clean

675
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: and people are breaking your windshill and fighting you in

676
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: the street like you're so examine. Yeah, but also it's

677
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: like it's probably really hard for him to realize that. I,

678
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: I like do think he's a good person. But anyways,

679
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: I am here, I am later talking about it, but

680
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the iconic but you processed it on it, but you

681
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: obviously like channeled it into something like you know, like

682
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: good creative and like great, like okay, so like so

683
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: what so what is what can you tell us about

684
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: the short? I can tell you that basically, it takes

685
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: you through It's really not so much of me trying

686
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: to burn my ax or saying anything negative about his

687
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: new boyfriend, but just more about that like grieving and

688
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: how you get through grief and how um to do

689
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: it in the backdrop of Los Angeles alone is weird.

690
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: And then as a comedian like going to do comedy

691
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: shows and teaching improv and like me fully like disassociating

692
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: like um. And then there's some really cool people in it,

693
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: like Lauren lapkiss Love Lauren, she's so funny, and Nico

694
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Santo and then um, you know who's playing my ex

695
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: is twist Jonathan Bennett from me, and he's so perfectly

696
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: because there's something about him that feels like he's not

697
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: like I didn't want it to be like, oh, this

698
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: is the my ex he's a villain. It's like likable,

699
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: there's a manipulative I'm gonna say something, I'm gonna make

700
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: a weird like assessment of like um not assessment, but

701
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: I just what I love about what seems to be

702
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: the common thread and like your stuff is that it's

703
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: like there's this like really funny fragility to all these

704
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: people you play and like, but there's like this like

705
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of this huge emotional like flare up that's happening

706
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: under like like the veneer cracking of like you know,

707
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: like you do chaos very well. Controlled chaos is something

708
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: that is a real skill of yours, like you know,

709
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: a laugh way from a cheer, Yes exactly. But this

710
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: feels like, I mean this is community, you would say

711
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: when she is community. Yeah, it's community, but it's definitely

712
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: more like on the like raw more and the acting

713
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: is real actually really funny before I was like terrible,

714
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: like fucking this guy in a rehab like it was

715
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: so like Red Flag City, and I created a character

716
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: based on that who Drew Trvor played this guy Reta

717
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: And I'm telling him, I'm like, I want you to

718
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: be in this indie it's very real, raw and he's like,

719
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, great. And I also happened to be

720
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: shooting a sketch that weekend. I don't know if you

721
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: saw any of my clips. Was like, and he literally

722
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: thought that that was what I was talking about. And

723
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: then I'm like, it's this really raw, real movie. And meanwhile,

724
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: I have a wig on. I'm just screaming out a

725
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: bunch of other gay guys in a player and that

726
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: makes me laugh. It was hilarious. But but I also

727
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: remember at the time when you were in the relationship,

728
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: you made a video about open relationships, which also popped

729
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: off and was Sony's. So it feels like you and

730
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: it isn't. It is a thing. It's like it's like

731
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: as like gay men who are also comedians, it's like

732
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: we don't really see those situations like in major television shows,

733
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: and especially not like because they're not out there at all,

734
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: not like the kind of comedy that we liked. So

735
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: it is cool to see like you're making it like

736
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: and making it yourself, because literally there are no shows

737
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: with it, and especially not where it's just like about this,

738
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: because now I feel like nowadays, in order to get

739
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: like gay content like that even looked at, it has

740
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: to be like a two hunter, you know what I mean.

741
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: It has to be like a guy. And also he

742
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: has a girlfriend who's like also as big of a character.

743
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, sometimes it's difficult to to write that

744
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: when it's you because I don't necessarily know that perspective

745
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 1: of that character. I know the perspective that I'm going through,

746
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: but you don't see like you know the girls for

747
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: for like gay man, you just don't looking. I guess tried.

748
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: There was some I don't know where I saw, but

749
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: someone said, like in TV shows there's usually just one

750
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: gay character, and it was like, meanwhile, I haven't seen

751
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: a straight person in like four weeks, so immersing World,

752
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: and I thought, those, I don't know straight people, so

753
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: for them to make up the majority of television is

754
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: is obscene to me. I love when a straight woman

755
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: is like following or a fan I'm always like I'm

756
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: like spooked, I'm like, welcome, Hello. I don't know, I

757
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: don't really know how to like translate this for you.

758
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Like we asked our live shows sometimes

759
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: like who's straight and like the true voices that ring

760
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: out were like should we bring them up? And like

761
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Thank you? But we had one

762
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: reviewer never mind, actually cut this out, Doug. I was

763
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna say, we hadn't off the record, Yeah, we had.

764
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: We had We had run reviewer on our on our

765
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: on our pod who was like, I love the pad,

766
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: had great things to say, and then she goes, also

767
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm conservative. Are we allowed? And I was like, wait,

768
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: don't cut this out. I think this is a this

769
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: is a good topic. Like it's I don't understand why.

770
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand why you would want

771
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: to listen to us, but um, and we hope you

772
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: have some like internal moral mechanism still intact after all this,

773
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: but like, thank you for listening. But we're not going

774
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: to like, you know, fucking cast you out. But it's

775
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: it's just but thank you for listening. Like we we

776
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: love an outside perspective. It's weird because it's like I

777
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know how far that reaches the conservative thing because

778
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: I remember when um prop eight do you guys and

779
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: um I had girls in my acting class who were like, yeah,

780
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: like I do not believe gay And it was just

781
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: like but you've known me for like years and like

782
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: we like, you don't think I should. It was just

783
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: a weird There was that area of time where like,

784
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: well we can say it. I mean like Barack Obama

785
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: was saying at the time he didn't believe in game right,

786
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: and so was Hillary, and so was like even our

787
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: political like people that we were supposed to respect and

788
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: aspire to. We're saying this because it was still so

789
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: recent that like LGBT people got any rights at all,

790
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: and we have to remember, like in like the Graham

791
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Clock of the World, like we're on truly like eleven

792
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: fifty eight of gay people being looked at as like equal.

793
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like four and a half years since marriage equality.

794
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: That's right, and to even and what's crazy is like

795
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: we've been through this with gay people, and we've been

796
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: through this with like civil rights, where you know, it's

797
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: fucked up to treat humans like they're subhuman and yet

798
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: you still see people like in this in our country,

799
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: like dragging their feet on whether trans people can use

800
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: the bathroom that they want. It's like, you, guys, we've

801
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: been through this. You have to treat human beings like

802
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: human beings, like what is the big idea? And it's

803
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: it's that's when you remember like it is. It is

804
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: still to this day, like forget about representation. We're barely

805
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: getting treated correctly. It's like wacko and crazy, and we

806
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: demanded change. Um, I say, we take a quick little break,

807
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and then when we're back, we got to ask Jimmy

808
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the question, and that we're actually gonna ask him the question.

809
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: We're back with Jimmy, actually are back, Jimmy, We're gonna

810
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: ask you the question that we ask all of our guests. Okay,

811
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: so this is what we ask them. We say, what

812
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: is the culture that made you say? Culture is for me?

813
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: So this just means like the formative thing growing up,

814
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: TV show, movie, uh, you know, music, whatever it was

815
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: that like locked you into like going down a cultural

816
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: path in life. Does that make sense? Yeah? I think

817
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I feel like it was

818
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: real world and like Danny and speaking of people, but

819
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: but also just like the NonStop look into these lines.

820
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: It's like so boring and like but also interesting. So

821
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: I think that was a big part of it. And

822
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: also Strangers with Candy. If I can say, why would

823
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: you be able to say no? I mean yes, I

824
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: mean my my thing is like well to touch on

825
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the real world of it all. It's like that was

826
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: so like I remember, really if you had like cable

827
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: did you have cable at this point? Did you know?

828
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: All right? So like that was MTV was like almost

829
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: like the forbidden channel for me because my parents were like,

830
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: you could not watch this, no, And then I remember

831
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: I became like fifteen and could watch it, and all

832
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I was like wow, and I was

833
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: like so obsessed with these people who I thought were

834
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: the most gore just a stranger seven Strangers. Side note,

835
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Comedy Central was blocked at my house. Twisted Yeah, and

836
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: actually because if Stranger Stranger Candy, Like I was watching

837
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: it at my moment like what is this? And then

838
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it anymore? God, um yeah, that's the thing.

839
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: I remember, Like my parents would always like walk in

840
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: at the most inopportunity time when I was watching MTV

841
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: like it was always like a spring break type thing,

842
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: which I thought was the horny or it is you know,

843
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: also side this is I'm sure I'm going to regret

844
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: sharing this later, but um I don't. I was such

845
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: a chronic masturbator where I would be like in a blanket,

846
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: but like I would do it in public places, like

847
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: when in my living room, parents around, sisters around, and

848
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I would have a because I started masturbating before my

849
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: body could even produce semens, so it was nothing would come.

850
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: I think it was like seven eight, Okay, I was

851
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: ten and it was remember the first time I came.

852
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: It was like it was like like like when you

853
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, when you see a piggy from a little

854
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: little water bottle, it's like deep, deep, deep deep the

855
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: water comes out like I don't like when you go

856
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: to a petting when you check out a pig, it's

857
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: just sucking down the water from the water bottle. What

858
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean was it came the hell, why are these

859
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: pigs having water? You literally know what I'm talking about? Scared, No,

860
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: you're just you're talking about like a guinea pigs water

861
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: bottle and talking about a guinea pigs water bottle. Well,

862
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: I pictured a little pig in my mind because I'm

863
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: talking about going to the petting zoo. You horse, so

864
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about first of all, you're both horse, and

865
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: second of all, is you know what I'm talking about,

866
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: which is at the petting zoo or if you need

867
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: it to be this in a little cage that the

868
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: guinea pig is in when that said guinea pig drinks

869
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: out of the water. That's what it was like when

870
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: I came at age ten. Okay, I feel like, yeah,

871
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't think anything was being created, and I would

872
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: just feel that sensation and I would do it all

873
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: the time cause it felt good. It felt good, And

874
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: then I would do this thing where like, um, I

875
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: would pull the blanket up to my chin, so like

876
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: any sort of activity with my hands and my penis

877
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: couldn't be detected because I wasn't producing com It wasn't

878
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: like a cleanup situation and parents walking by. And then

879
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: one day I'm from Massachusetts, it's ninety degrees humid, and

880
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: I have the blanket on and I'm watching and it's

881
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: like a sexy like lifetime sort of thing, like shirtless

882
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: men on the beach. I'm fully masturbating and my mom

883
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: walks in. She just looks at me and goes, you're sick. Now,

884
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: to this day, I don't know she knew I was

885
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: masturbating or if it was just like so I'm gonna say,

886
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: she wouldn't just turn to her you're sick. But I

887
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: thought maybe she thought like I was, it was sick

888
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: because I I would say I'm cold. Okay, so she

889
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: could have thought you're sick for having a blanket on

890
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: you and ninety degree weather. Yeah, that's I was thinking.

891
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: She was just like, oh, you're serious, But she did

892
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: say pretty judgmental, so yeah, so it probably was that.

893
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: That is literally wow, I'm so happy to know that,

894
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: because did you feel at the time when you were

895
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: like discaster waiting for the first time, like and doing

896
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: it in the weird ways because you don't know exactly

897
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: what to do. I used to hump the ship out

898
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: of my pillows. Okay, I never got into that. I

899
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: thought I was hump for Can I tell you my

900
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: weird wave master beating in the we welcome that basically

901
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: doing a man gina whoa that sounds painful and then

902
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: fucking like like pressing like stimulating from the base whoa. Whoa.

903
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: That was like so like putting your penis between your

904
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: legs and rubbing like, but then the friction of your

905
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: between your legs like kind of like didn't hurt, and

906
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: then it hurts your balls and then you know. By

907
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: the time I was like thirteen, I was like, Okay,

908
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: this is not no longer tenable, and I fel like

909
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I gotta do what I gotta

910
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: do it the right way that I've seen important. That's interesting.

911
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I didn't find out like

912
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: how to actually jack off with the hand motion until

913
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: I was like well into high school. I was sucking

914
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: my pillows and everything until I was old and old.

915
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me. Yeah, I would be fucking the

916
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: show and I would I would be like, the craziest

917
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: thing was I would be sucking these pillows and then

918
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: one day I would come home and my mom would

919
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: have changed the pillows, and I was like, I mean,

920
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: can you confront can you do you remember in Bridesmaids

921
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: when um uh Wendy to Clanton Covey is like, I

922
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: saw a towel the other day, I broke it in half.

923
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: That was how my pillows were. Oh, my god. Yeah,

924
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: I was like a freak sick, like a sick freak.

925
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: I was a freak sick, that freak sick. Um, that's

926
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we're talking about. That was vulnerable. I

927
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: got to confess I in Montreal, in Canada, so I

928
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: must do it about nine or eight or nine. Um

929
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: did it in class one time. But yeah, back when

930
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: it was no clean up. It was like had a

931
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: jacket over me in clads brave And can you imagine

932
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: if that in today? If that happened and you were

933
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: exposed and like it would be like assault, you'd be

934
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks cust way. I mean, I mean literally be Wilson.

935
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: You'd be Wilson floating in the damn water because you

936
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be the star, not with Tom Hanks in

937
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: the movie. It's actually real culture number eighty eight. You

938
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: can't be a star, not with Tom Hanks in the movie. Okay,

939
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: so that's a real world. And um was that it

940
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: was Karama was what what was that was? Was he

941
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: New York? I remember I remember Karama on the Real World?

942
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember? So? I vaguely remember. Okay, they made

943
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: it a huge It was like a straight acting black

944
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: guy who was Danny was the first one, or no,

945
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: maybe not the first, because I think that it was.

946
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't that it wasn't on my radar yet. Just um,

947
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: he was this guy, he was hot gay. Yeah, I

948
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: guess I'm like downplaying that. I think I was probably

949
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: like my first crush. Well to see I think that

950
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, remember they blurred out his

951
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend was in the military. Yeah, that was that literally happened.

952
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: So you watched twenty episodes of like this man falling

953
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: in love with a blurred face and just like and

954
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: MT was like, you'll deal with it. Yeah, and this

955
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: is the gay narrative. I remember everyone being like, and

956
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: it's so amazingly show this and it's like, well they

957
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: show most of it that I remember. Like there was

958
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: that thing of like whenever they put a gay character, character,

959
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: person or lesbian on the show, it was like I

960
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: would I would be so enraptured with it because I

961
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know how you guys felt or like, well you

962
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: didn't really watch Real World at the time, but for us,

963
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: it was like there was no like gay men in media.

964
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: There was no representation. So it was like I'm fascinated

965
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: to know what this real gay person feels because I

966
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: don't know anyone and I don't see anyone. All you

967
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: knew is that it was bad when you were called it,

968
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: it was bad and you didn't want to be it,

969
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: and yeah, how old are you thirty for? So then

970
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: you probably you were literally in like what if I

971
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: like what if? I was like, I'm thirty one? And

972
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: then I was like, back, you have to I would

973
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: tell you. I would, I would leave it in. I'd

974
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: be like this mother. I really hate when people lie

975
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: on their age. It bothers. Yeah, I get it. I

976
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: don't get it. It's it perpetuates proud. It's so especially

977
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: because it's it's actors mostly and now you're going to

978
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: set eight nobody, but even being thirty four, like I

979
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: remember I went down to San Diego. I don't even

980
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: know what story I'm telling. Like you see people and

981
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: you say their age, like if you're meet a guy

982
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: or even anyone and you're like like, oh, I'm thirty four,

983
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: Like oh, well, you don't seem it, and it's like, well,

984
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: I I was born thirty four years ago. And every day,

985
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I get a little bit like I don't

986
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: know being it's weird. It's like it's like it's like

987
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I think when people say a certain age, when people

988
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: respond to it a certain way, like that's it's like, oh,

989
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: like you you consider that old, like or like there's

990
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: something in you that's like needs to respond to it

991
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: to try to comfort I was me and my best

992
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: friend went to San Diego for New Year's and we

993
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: found ourselves at a random apartment complex with these guys

994
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: that we met at the club, and they were all

995
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: and they were so like. This one guy, he was

996
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: twenty two. He was like so aggressive, like he was

997
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: so confident, and we're sitting in a hot tub and

998
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: he's like putting the moves on me, and I felt

999
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. I'm like, I'm thirty four, this was this,

1000
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: this is the series? Um and uh. He's like kind

1001
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: of talking. He's like how old are you? I'm like

1002
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: thirty four. He's like that's not too old, and I

1003
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: was like okay, and I felt like I had nothing

1004
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: to talk to him about. At one point, I literally

1005
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: was just like, do you believe in God? I asked

1006
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: him if he believe in God, because I was like,

1007
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how to connect to him know that

1008
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: it is. It is crazy like and the other thing

1009
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: about being in a relationship and then coming out of

1010
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: it is like you were the last time you were

1011
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: single actually was two years ago, and it is a

1012
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: long time, so like the landscape is different. Oh yeah,

1013
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: I got together with Henry at twenty five. We broke

1014
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: up and I was almost twenty eight. And the way

1015
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: that the gay community treats a twenty five year old

1016
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: is so different from the way it treats are No.

1017
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: But no, I don't mean like like sob story. I'm

1018
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: just meaning like they the way they shall your age,

1019
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: Like when you see the number the numericle on the

1020
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: grinder thing, It's like people are so horny for a

1021
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: year old. They don't when you're twenty eight. You're like

1022
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: out with the maids. It's they're so age of stupid stupid.

1023
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: What was gonna say? Um? Oh, I was gonna say that. Um.

1024
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: This whole thing about have you guys seen Visible on

1025
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: television on Apple TV. It's a documentary sies. It's very good,

1026
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: very and like well reviewed documentaryies and Apple all about representation.

1027
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: In the first episode is all about like lave under

1028
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: scare stuff, and but that the first real gay person

1029
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: who was like heavily featured on television was Rosie o'donald

1030
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: not Rosie Donald, Paul Out in America. How disconnected. I

1031
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: wish you had not said with a question, but I

1032
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: wish you'd just been like Rosdonald. It was actually Rosie o'donald. Um.

1033
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: It was Paul Out from American Family, like the very

1034
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: first reality show and like the sixties, seventies, seventies, he

1035
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: was a gay character, gay person. It was the first

1036
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: RealD first like and it was like the guy who

1037
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: I forgot his name, the guy who started the real

1038
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: world as like took inspiration from American Family. This guy

1039
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Paul Loud I think his name is Paul Lynd No, no, no,

1040
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: pauland was different. Plan was the comedian who was not

1041
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: never out now, which is so crazy. Who was the

1042
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: guy who did the Peter Pan I mean the peanut

1043
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: butter commercials, who was like, so I don't know that, okay.

1044
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: There were always these like flamboyant asked characters on like

1045
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: fops on on like shows, and it was always just

1046
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: like they came in, said their lines and like blew out.

1047
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: And now it's like there was no conversation about what

1048
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: they did the second day, lest they focused in his

1049
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: first episode because it goes in sort of a historical

1050
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: chronological order, and so this first episode focus is really

1051
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot on Liberaci and like you really forget like

1052
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: he like had an impact and he was doing something

1053
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: that like no one had ever seen before, and like

1054
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: we like have weirdly like a cultural debt to him,

1055
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: I think is like gay man. It's like he was

1056
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: like really putting himself out there in a crazy, crazy way,

1057
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: like wearing what he wore and was saying what he said. Yeah,

1058
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: but he also was like in denial publicly about his

1059
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: sexuality of course until like the bitter end to the

1060
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: bitter end, which is so crazy, like to think about

1061
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: the fact, like when I saw a rocket man or

1062
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: like and to think there was a time where he

1063
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: had to even pretend that he wasn't gay, and like

1064
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: like like I said, like in the grand clock of time,

1065
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: like it just hit the moment where we were able

1066
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: to be out, like the fact that like fucking Adam

1067
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Lambert was on an American idol and not out. He

1068
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: had to come out after publicly the show, because it's

1069
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: crazy that was like we were in college when that

1070
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: was happening, Like you were like, it's it's just like

1071
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: you can't. Oh, it's pretend that it's like easier. It's

1072
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: like people that say that ship where it's like, oh,

1073
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: it's easier now to be a POC, which was so

1074
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: you do not wish you were a POC. You're a

1075
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: white person with a lot of privilege. Like you want

1076
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: to know something, I learned a new lesson about racism

1077
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: and homophobia every week based on audience response to me

1078
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: seeing me on TV, and they lose their fucking minds.

1079
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: It's like we're still I mean like I used to

1080
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: be like, oh God, who cares, Like like yeah, yeah,

1081
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: representations great, but like we're past it. We're past like

1082
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: all this, all this, it's y'all. It's it's still there.

1083
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Like it's pretty crazy. But the this whole Paul out

1084
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: thing is so interesting because he was like this. It

1085
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: was just really like liberal family. I don't know where

1086
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: they were out of it. It It aired on PBS and

1087
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: like millions of people saw like this guy who was

1088
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: just like yeah, I don't know, Um I'm gay, and

1089
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: um I don't really like hanging out with straight people.

1090
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: Like he was just like very like liberated in that way,

1091
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and like everyone saw that and they were like they

1092
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: came to their own shitty conclusions about him. But but

1093
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: then like now you look back and it's like, oh,

1094
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: he was like so so so ahead of it anyway. Um,

1095
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: but Strangers with Candy also representation. Representation. Stephen Colbur saying

1096
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: a faggot in the first episode of Bitch and like

1097
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: we let him, we let him, we allow that. It's like,

1098
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: I did not know that that was a thing. Oh

1099
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: it's a faggy, he says. Faggy. Right, I can't remember that,

1100
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: but he's I think he says it throughout the show.

1101
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: There's some stuff. There's some stuff you're like, oh, this

1102
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't think could hold. But you watch in context

1103
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: with like the period it came out, and like it's bad.

1104
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: Of course it's bad. It's defensive, but like you kind

1105
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: of have to laugh at like how ridiculous it is

1106
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: because at this, this is this is what Stephen Colber says, Um,

1107
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: all right, your homework is to do this is to

1108
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: write a paper on this, this, this, and don't make

1109
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: it too And he writes on the chalkboard and Grant

1110
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: cursive faggy. It's funny. It's just that is so funny,

1111
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: and that the fact of the matter is, like you

1112
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: would I feel like if you're like someone putting that

1113
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: on television, Like we talked about this with Chris and

1114
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: Sarah when they when when caper Land says gagging for

1115
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: you fagot, Like that was something they had to go

1116
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: back and forth with Comedy Central about like whether or

1117
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: not like they could just say the word faggot and clear,

1118
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: and it's because it's so triggering to people. And I

1119
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: will say, we use the word fagot and like to

1120
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: describe ourselves like and you know, our friends whatever, like

1121
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: because I think it's fine, But we constantly get feedback

1122
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: on this podcast every now and then that people are

1123
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with the use of the word fagot. And

1124
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: then you forget that, like not everyone has gotten to

1125
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: like move away from their home where it's like they

1126
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: have friends who say that to each other. A lot

1127
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: of people still exist in the world, like like I

1128
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: was thinking before, like people around our age exists in

1129
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: a world or grew up in a world where like

1130
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: Eminem was the most popular musical star and was saying

1131
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: faggot in a negative way, in a derogatory way, and

1132
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: like a dangerous, violent way for so many years, and

1133
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: then everyone was singing around us because it was pop music,

1134
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: so it's like weird, it's weird to think about. So

1135
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: it does, like I get defensive when people are like,

1136
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: don't say faggett. But then I'm like, and I'm like,

1137
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: were you talking about Like this is crazy, you're policing language,

1138
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: and also we were reclaiming it, but then you remember

1139
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: that it's it's different contexts for yeah, people yeager. For

1140
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: some people, I don't. I think it's funny. I think

1141
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: it's hilarious and like I'm hearing other people say it

1142
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: about me. Can I get in on it? And yeah,

1143
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: it'll take some of the power away, I feel, But

1144
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: totally people get a little visual with me too when

1145
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: they when they have problems with it. And again I'm

1146
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: not calling anyone now, but it's like I've gotten messages

1147
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: that are like you have no idea what it's like

1148
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: to like get hit in the face and hear that word,

1149
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: and it's like wow, I'm like so sorry that happened

1150
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: to you, But you also don't know that I haven't

1151
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: had that experience. You don't know that I haven't had

1152
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: other experiences. It's like, I feel bad that people have

1153
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: trauma about the word, and like, of course we do.

1154
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: We all literally at this table have been called it

1155
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: in a negative, derogatory way before. But it's like, not

1156
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: everyone that's the same place as you about it. So

1157
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: it's like interesting to think about it being used in

1158
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: media and the fact that like probably no one said

1159
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: ship when Stephen Colbert said it out loud and spelled it,

1160
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: because it is funny in that context. It's very yes,

1161
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: in the in that context, it's very funny. And god,

1162
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: what a good show, Paul Donello hot so that you're

1163
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: talking about this show this literally I literally was thinking

1164
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: to myself, did I bring the mood down? Because I

1165
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: was because I told these guys I was listening to

1166
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Cola Scola and I was dying listening to him talk

1167
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: about Tinder Gold in London. What a crazy Like, oh

1168
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: are you meaning well when you're in a relationship now, right,

1169
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to talk about the openness of it all.

1170
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: I think he'd be okay with me sharing this. I'm

1171
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: going to share it. But we are open newly because

1172
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: he's uh um in a different part of the country,

1173
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: like working, And so I think that it's just so

1174
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: crazy because I'm in a healthy relationship now and I

1175
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: don't have to have that thing that I think maybe

1176
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: I had in the last relationship or your boyfriend had,

1177
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: where it's like, no, I'm gonna pretend it's fine. I

1178
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: want the relationship. I'm gonna pretend to healthy. I don't

1179
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: have that at all because and I'm never scared to

1180
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: tell him the truth. And I think that's that's red

1181
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: flag number one. If you're in a relationship that's like

1182
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: trying something and you're not comfortable with it, but you're

1183
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: scared to say something. Girl, you gotta get out of

1184
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: that because you have that healthy communication. I mean that's internacy.

1185
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: That's like exactly talking about it. And when are you

1186
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: dating anyone right now? Are you seeing people? I I

1187
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: went you guys, I just got back in the game.

1188
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: I've been on three dates with one guy one two

1189
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: different guys, technically four dates with three different guys. And

1190
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: and the first guy said, I did not realize this

1191
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: was a date, and I was like, I thought it

1192
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: was people. People. Whenever people say that to me, I'm

1193
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: like that's huh, that's interesting. We're two gay men like

1194
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: who were who are like on the like so like

1195
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't ordinarily hang out if if it wasn't a date.

1196
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, Like, but we had

1197
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: hung out a little as friends a little bit soa

1198
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: but um but yeah and but yeah this one two

1199
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: different guys to take a break. No, okay, I'm just

1200
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm just engaging in listening. Um, I'm such a people

1201
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: please A I'm like, should we end the show early

1202
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: just because it's not going great? Thank you so much? Um?

1203
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: I um, yeah, I went yeah, these two different guys

1204
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: I went on. Just I'm taking it super slow. I

1205
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: really feel like speaking not not to be like I'm

1206
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: so triggered by my trauma, but like stuff that I

1207
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't expect to affect me affect me so hardcore after

1208
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: the breakup, Like even being at the gym sometimes, like

1209
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel so uncomfortable. I feel like

1210
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: there's like sexual energy here and I have to get

1211
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: out of this. And I considered myself like I came

1212
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: up as much through the club scene as I did

1213
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: the comedy scene, working in bars ever since I was eighteen,

1214
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: and I felt like these are my people. And and

1215
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: after that experience, I was just I don't know, like

1216
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: sex in general, I was like so freaked out and

1217
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: it's weird. Well, it is triggering. I remember, like it's once.

1218
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: Once it's a hang up in your relationship, it will

1219
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: be a hang up afterwards because you'll be thinking I

1220
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: don't want that. I mean, well, but I know that

1221
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: you're right that it's like I'll have to work through it. Well,

1222
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: at least, what I can tell you is that it

1223
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: does get it goes away, like it gets better because

1224
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: like now that you have had this be a thing,

1225
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: like you will know what to look for in your

1226
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: next relationship, whether that's a boyfriend relationship or just someone

1227
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: that you mess around with or someone that's like you

1228
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: try something within. Then it becomes a friend. You know

1229
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: what you don't want, which is which is powerful and helpful. Yeah,

1230
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: and its own guiding force. And I also feel like

1231
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: you don't need to have relationships to know what you

1232
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: don't want. And like like like I feel like you've

1233
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: dated a lot of people form like short periods of time,

1234
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: and it's like I feel like you're you can almost

1235
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: be thankful sometimes that that's the case because it's like, well,

1236
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: at least I didn't have to really really really invest

1237
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: in this. That's something that I'm like, that was very

1238
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: hard about breaking up with Henry. It was like I

1239
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: was like invest in it for years, and you they

1240
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: meet your family and you meet their family, and then

1241
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: like you become friends with each other, and then it's

1242
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: like you said, you're scared to go places because you're triggering.

1243
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: It's like there's upsides and downsides to both, but it's

1244
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: it's um really hard to move on. Its hard. You'll

1245
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I think I already feel so much

1246
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: like I'm in the right direction, but it was so

1247
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: hard to I just keep replaying the scenario, keep thinking

1248
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: about my ex, really regretting how I behaved because that's

1249
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: not like me, that's not how I want to be

1250
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: in the world, and then thinking should I reach out,

1251
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: and then ultimately it was like this is just like

1252
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: the chapter's closed, and it was like a very painful ending,

1253
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: but you did get to end it like with an

1254
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: iconic window smash it and I said, this is just

1255
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like how fucking insane. No, I love villain,

1256
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: but my friends because I was in a really bad

1257
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: place for like such a long time, and so my

1258
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: friends we would have this text chain and everyone was

1259
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: like they were like babysitting me, Like they would come

1260
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: over and take me out, and I would just say

1261
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: the same goddamn thing over and over again, and every

1262
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: they would like text me like this is just the beginning,

1263
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: like they would mess with me. You created and that's

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01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: really this can't wait because begin t um. This can

1265
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: be off the record. But there is a scene where

1266
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm in an audition and Heidi Gardner is going to

1267
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: play a Julia Ashton character who and she like because

1268
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: I basically do an audition because it was based off

1269
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: I had an audition with a puppet and it was

1270
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: like in a deep depression and I'm talking about my

1271
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: breakup and then I'm doing like a weird voice. But

1272
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: there is this scene bow and if you're in in

1273
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: l A, I'll you'll have to be in this mega

1274
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: you have to make a cameo. And I'm with all

1275
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: these games, like because you know, guys, we audition for

1276
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: the same thing, and I'm like holding court and everyone's

1277
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: chiming in about this, so you shouldn't do this or

1278
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, that's oh, that's great. I love that.

1279
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: I love that. That is such a real thing. It's

1280
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: like every every roem I go into here, it's like

1281
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: I look at the list and I'm like, oh, my

1282
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: friends are left already. Every time I go to an audition,

1283
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Brendan scot John, Yes, I see Brendan's

1284
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: gone on a lot of lists. He's so sweet, the

1285
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: best boy, the best of the best boy. I shouldn't

1286
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't call the boy, should not call my boy as

1287
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: long as you call huh, I don't care what you

1288
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: call me, as long as you call me. But then

1289
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 1: the dates. But it sounds like four dates for three guys.

1290
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: It sounds like one of them, at least one of

1291
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: them is successful. Like there's there's yeah, there's this one guy,

1292
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: and he's hilarious. I do guys like funny guys. Funny guys, yeah,

1293
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: but people do, not comedian wise necessarily, but guys that

1294
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, my boyfriend makes me laugh so hard. I'm

1295
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: dam Honestly, I think there's something like weird, Like I'm

1296
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: drawn to guys who aren't that funny. I've been I've

1297
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: dated a series of guys where there isn't that emotional?

1298
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: There isn't. Yeah, I've dated guys like that for years

1299
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: because sex is good. Yes, Sometimes sometimes like there's this

1300
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: weird bond. Sometimes I think it's unhealthy, Like I'll just

1301
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, the best like relationships, they're like your best friend.

1302
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: And I think I've tricked myself into being like I'm

1303
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: very attracted to this person and I'm just like kind

1304
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: of like abandoning all these wants I have in a relationship.

1305
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing to admit that, Like in a relationship, I'm

1306
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: not dating people that I click with emotionally, but somewhere

1307
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: along the line, I think I just I'm like, well

1308
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: it looks good on paper. You know, it's a arbitrary

1309
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: that like there's no there's no like stat card that

1310
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: like tells you like well, like you know you're compatible

1311
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: in this way and that like it's you you learn

1312
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: it all, Like it's over time. It's so trial and error,

1313
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: like you're like okay, and that's what they say. Like dating,

1314
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: it's you're collecting information. Like sometimes it feels bizarre to

1315
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: be like I'm hanging out with this human I don't

1316
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: know them. I'm seeing if maybe there's like it is weird.

1317
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: It is weird, but it's like a super long interview,

1318
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: and then it feels so sad when it doesn't work out,

1319
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: but it's like, great, now you're one step closer to

1320
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: finding if you want a partnership, you're closer to that.

1321
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: And also it's like you had all these great memories.

1322
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: I think that with the dating of it all, it's

1323
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: like I feel like in my early twenties, early my

1324
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: mid twenties, before I was ever in a relationship, the

1325
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: way I treated dating was like pretty unhealthy because I

1326
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: would go out on a date with someone and I'd

1327
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: be like, well, it's a success if I sucked them,

1328
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: or if if we hook up, it's like a success.

1329
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: So oftentimes I would like not be feeling it, but

1330
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: I would be like it, well, it'll at least be

1331
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: a success if I hook up, because I just wasn't

1332
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: very much. And I also think because gay people didn't

1333
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: get a chance to date in high school, like you

1334
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: do all these weird things and making weird rationalizations like

1335
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: that in your twenties and late twenties and thirties, and

1336
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you know even later than that, because we're stunted

1337
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 1: growth because like I said in the ground clock, et cetera.

1338
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: It's only been recent that we're allowed to feel these

1339
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: things at the same rate as straight people. I feel

1340
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: that I felt for me it manifested in going too quickly,

1341
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: like you know, like in in middle school, it's like

1342
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: a boy and girl like each other and they're like

1343
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: they're together like that. I feel like because I relate

1344
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: to that, like it's happening so fast, we barely know

1345
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: each other, and then it's like so much time spent

1346
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: together and kind of unhealthy. Bonda. Well, well, I'm a

1347
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of fun guys. I guess. I guess if you're

1348
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: listening to this and I'm not in a relationship, I mean,

1349
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, looking for there's two single men here, oh

1350
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: and then one spoken for a guy who's open. Yes. Yeah,

1351
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: but you need to be treat me really spec I

1352
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: think it's for all of us. Things for all of us.

1353
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to treat me at all. You can

1354
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: treat me like ship. I like it. Are you like

1355
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: on grinder and stuff? No, I can't. It's just it's

1356
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: too much stimulus. I'm literally like going on the most

1357
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: innocent like hikes and coffee. Yeah, it's good. I think

1358
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: it's good for me. I think, like, um, I'm just

1359
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to not say because I also get attached if

1360
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: I cook up with someone too soon, so I have

1361
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: to kind of just but I mean, I honestly I

1362
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be against having like a fling and whatever. But

1363
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: I think we're just coming out of what I just

1364
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: came out of. I just feel like I want to

1365
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 1: just take care of myself, make sure i'm not you know, um,

1366
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: but yeah, this one guy I've gone on a couple

1367
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: of days, he's just really smart and super funny and

1368
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: like nice. But a lot of times things that are

1369
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: red flags for other people feel comforting to me, like

1370
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: like when people are U two, they act, they move

1371
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: too fast, Like I'm like, that's good because you like me.

1372
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: I like to go back to the guy I did

1373
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: in a rehab for a second time in this one

1374
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: hour podcast. I he was like I can't stop thinking

1375
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: about you. I've had to talk to my sponsor about it,

1376
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: and in my mind it's like and you're like I've heard. Yeah.

1377
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm like this feels I feel safe because I think

1378
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 1: I have abandonment or I know now from going to therapy,

1379
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: have abandonment issues. So I'm looking for someone who comes

1380
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: in really hot and heavy. But the reality is when

1381
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: people come at you like that, it's really not about

1382
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: you or your connection. A lot of times it's like

1383
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're weird bonding. They're trying to escape

1384
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: from some stance and they see you and they're like,

1385
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: let me, let me. That's that's an opening. Yeah, And

1386
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: I found it's easy come, easy go. Like if people

1387
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: come in hot and heavy, like they will be the

1388
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: first to balance. It doesn't that suck though, like because

1389
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: you think that those are the things that like are

1390
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: the genuine connections. Like That's what I'm still getting over

1391
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: is this like one moment where I was like the

1392
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: sparks damn flew and and then it was easy go.

1393
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: And then I was just like, but wait a minute,

1394
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be Like and the thing that

1395
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: sucks about things like that too is it's like, but

1396
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: didn't you feel this thing? It's like it's like you

1397
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: feel crazy when I had a guy treat me very

1398
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: very badly because because because this person treated me so badly,

1399
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: and god, where was I going? I can's it's just

1400
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of this thing of like can I know, like

1401
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: what happened? That was so yeah. I mean basically, like

1402
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: it was just back and forth of like it was

1403
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: months and months back and tell stuff. Um No, it

1404
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: was like we had hooked up one time and it

1405
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: was like it felt like special and we did it

1406
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: like all day and like and like this is like

1407
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: years ago, and then we would keep in touch over

1408
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: the years, like and it was like this thing. And

1409
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: then I came to the same city as him and

1410
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: it was like we reconnected really hard, and I thought

1411
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a thing, and he told me

1412
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: all these things, and eventually, like I realized that he

1413
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: was not the kind of person that could follow up

1414
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: and do the kind of things and like be the

1415
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of person I thought he could. And it was

1416
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: just such a shock because it's so hard to admit

1417
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: that you like allowed yourself to get got that way,

1418
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: because the feelings feel so real to you, and you're like,

1419
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,440
Speaker 1: but you said all these things, and then you realize,

1420
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: like there are some guys out there who will say

1421
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get what they want, and there's

1422
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: some guys out there who will do whatever needs to

1423
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: be done to make themselves feel excited and like you

1424
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: entertain themselves and not everyone treats each other well. So

1425
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: I think it's good that you're taking it slow because

1426
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, you're someone who if you let yourself like

1427
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: get hurt, which is a which is a useful thing

1428
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: to know about yourself. Yeah, I to your point bowing

1429
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: about like, isn't it sad about the spark? Now? I

1430
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: do think that there can be that genuine connection and

1431
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: that excitement and it's easy and you want to see

1432
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: them all the time. I just think there's also like

1433
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: that flip side where it's like a little bit of

1434
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: unhealthy atment, you know, so it's like just protecting yourself

1435
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: from from that. But I I am kind of romantic.

1436
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: I do think now that's the I think that's what

1437
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: it is. That's where it comes from for me. I'm

1438
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: just like, this feels so what's your like, what's your

1439
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: thing that will like trap you? By the way, if

1440
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: this is two personally, I'm just I love we can't

1441
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: get this. I love talking about this. What's my Honestly,

1442
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: when you're it's like this rehab guy who's just like

1443
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about you. Rarely has ever happened

1444
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: at times that at the time cracky, it's so cool.

1445
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it is, it's fun. And and they do

1446
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: and it's like that thing they have, like that obsession

1447
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, and that moment and you feel like the

1448
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: most important person and it it feels so good. And

1449
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: and then when you're attracted to them and it has

1450
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: to match, it has I have to meet them at

1451
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: the it has to be like I've gotten it to

1452
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, oh no, you just don't do this,

1453
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: like someone who's just like I'm so into you and

1454
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I I can't quite because you're not feeling

1455
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: it back right, And then I'm pretty I hope I'm

1456
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: pretty clear about that. Um, that's cool, honestly, Like it's

1457
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: so nice when people are just like, hey, like I'm

1458
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: not yeah I could, I could be better. I could

1459
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: be better. But anyway, that's yeah, that's my that's hot

1460
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: and heavy. I feel they'll get you. These I mean,

1461
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: like I remember like the line that there should be

1462
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: any for them, those types of people. I mean, they're

1463
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: called boys because that's because essentially what they're trying their

1464
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: own version of. Well, here's the thing. I's actually a

1465
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: real culture. Gay men can be number seven. And the

1466
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is like I had this guy

1467
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: said to me, like, um, you would never move here

1468
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: because he moved in l A. And I was in

1469
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: New York at the time. And then I was like, oh,

1470
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: he really wants me to live there. And then he

1471
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: was like, I would come to New York just to

1472
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: see you, and I was like, he would fly to

1473
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: New York just to see me, And so then three

1474
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: weeks later, I did fly to l A just to

1475
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: see him, and they ignored me all week. You have

1476
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: to be kidding me. It was like sick that it's

1477
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: crazy because guys could be so mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1478
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't just be honest with me. And then

1479
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: months that I finally confronted the person and it was

1480
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: like they realized that it was fucked up, but I

1481
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, like it's it's it's too late.

1482
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm already hurt, and now it's like we can try

1483
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: to move forward. And I have tried to move forward,

1484
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: but to varying degrees of success. Like once once you've

1485
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: heard someone, you've heard someone. Yeah, But I feel like

1486
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: if you're just straightforward, you're pretty good. Like if you're

1487
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: just like and to go back to my ex for

1488
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: one final time in this podcast, like had he just said,

1489
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: we opened it up. I'm connecting to this person and

1490
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: it's getting out of you know, it's it's developing. Like

1491
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have been And maybe it's

1492
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: easy to say it now, but I feel like I

1493
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: would have because I came to him and I was like,

1494
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: what it feels like you guys are texting a lot,

1495
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't like him, and so when

1496
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: they were together, I was like, I literally was like

1497
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Brockovich, like saying names and phone numbers and dates.

1498
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,839
Speaker 1: I was insane. I tell my friend and the image

1499
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: I get it's like I'm this screaming woman in a

1500
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: burning building trying to guilt people and everyone's running from

1501
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: the building like it's done. And that was it was

1502
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: so hard to let go. But yeah, so hard because well,

1503
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: it's a long relationship. It's a long relationship. The clause

1504
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: are in. But listen, I think that we can all

1505
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: say that as a result of this conversation, we've all

1506
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 1: moved forward from anyone that's heard us in the past,

1507
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: and we actually don't care. And um, we're like du

1508
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: alipa in that song New Rules, because here's the rules. One,

1509
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: don't pick up the phone. You know he's only calling

1510
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: because he's drunken alone to don't let him in you'll

1511
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: have to kick him out again. Three, don't beat his friend.

1512
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna wake up in his bed in

1513
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: the morning. And if you're under him, you were getting

1514
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: over him. If you're under him, you ain't getting over him.

1515
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: I got New Rules, I got him. Wow, you've never

1516
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: experienced those lyrics until you've heard it like that. It's

1517
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: actually poets so powerful. I was listening to that song

1518
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: to a great I've rediscovered da in such a way

1519
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: because she's got new music out now, banging new music.

1520
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: You discovered to it in such a way well, because

1521
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: she's been preparing for her return and we've been living

1522
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: for her. But the song New Rules is so good.

1523
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's so good. Do you know what? No,

1524
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: I don't, And I'm like, this is my biggest fear.

1525
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: Because I listened to Benito's Love you guys did, but

1526
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: it was amazing and he's so hilarious. I love him,

1527
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: and you guys went this deep dive in music, and

1528
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I was like, I

1529
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: know nothing about this. I'm literally going to be like

1530
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: on the show, being like, did anybody watch Cheer? Have

1531
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: you talked about it at the pod? We've talked about

1532
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: on the pod. We filled each other and he filed

1533
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: me on the circle. I filled him on Cheer. I

1534
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: loved Cheer. I thought it was great. Yeah. Morgan was like,

1535
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: so I was. Morgan was my like, yes, that like

1536
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: arc where she you knew she was so captivated by

1537
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: Monica because Monica was a mom. She never had the

1538
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: treaty gave her attention and respect and the amount of

1539
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:11,919
Speaker 1: respect that they and she respects them and she shows

1540
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: like it's like she shows up for them, and it

1541
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: was really cool to see. And of course she's you know,

1542
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: you hear about her. If I didn't watch the show,

1543
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: you might think she's this over the top personality and whatever. Yeah, no,

1544
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: not at all. But the way I feel about her

1545
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: is that it just shows that she's just she who

1546
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: she is. When she said the thing about don't come

1547
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: from my boys about games, I love that that. Did

1548
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: you guys already talk about that? We did not talk

1549
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: about that. She's um kind of doing her kind of

1550
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: confessional as she's driving, and they finally, there's so many

1551
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 1: diverse people. There's so many people in the LGBT family

1552
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: in UM on that team, and it's kind of random

1553
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: because they're in the middle of nowhere. And then she

1554
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: even said she's like I leaned conservative and she leans conservative,

1555
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: and yet she's like, um, she's like, I had a

1556
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: long conversation with my many conversations with my pastor you

1557
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: know about it, talking about you know, being gay, and

1558
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: she's just like, don't come for my boys, because they're

1559
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: my boys. Don't come for them. That's powerful and of all,

1560
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: and I was thinking all the times I've seen people

1561
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: put gay people down, all the times in my life.

1562
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: And she's sitting there and she's like, don't you dare

1563
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: And it was like all right, And she has power

1564
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: in that situation where everyone in this community respects her. Now,

1565
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: like the whole country and slash world knows about her.

1566
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: It's like she like kind of used to that in

1567
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: a very smart way where she was like, you guys,

1568
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: this is like not the way the right way to

1569
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: go about this. Yeah, I loved it. You gotta watch it.

1570
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. I gotta get over myself and

1571
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: watch it. I do this weird thing where when everyone

1572
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: says they love something, it takes me months. Parasite. I

1573
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: didn't watch Paris until last week and then and then

1574
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 1: he was incredible. Yes, I mean it's amazing. I just

1575
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: I just something happens to me where I'm like, I'll

1576
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: get to it. I'll get to it. And then I

1577
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: see these weird things that everyone kind of likes, like

1578
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: three times, like I saw I saw Bombshell three times,

1579
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: and also Knives Out three times and that was good.

1580
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: I saw a Little Women three times. These are all

1581
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: these are all good things. But it's like my thing

1582
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: is like I find something I like and I watch

1583
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: and listen to it repeatedly and don't do anything else.

1584
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: Like when there's a new album that comes out, I'll

1585
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: listen to the single and only that, like I'm afraid

1586
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: to listen to the rest of the album. It's really weird.

1587
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: It's a sick disease. But you just you're like that type.

1588
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: You're obsessive and you just love what you love. And

1589
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like that type. I'm obsessive and I love

1590
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: what I love and I'm focused and I'm and I'm

1591
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: I and I'm Okay, side note about Paris. I just

1592
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: don't mentioned my breakup for the third time in the podcast.

1593
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: It's actually kid. I would the most disturbing things would

1594
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: soothe me because I was a movie. Yeah, just during

1595
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: that time in my life, because it came out when

1596
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly I could do was sit there

1597
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was just like felt like

1598
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: I had had been hit by a bus. I was like, breakdown,

1599
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's horrible, and it was funny to just

1600
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: to like show that. I went to um Joshua Treaty

1601
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: to try to like shake the experience, and I'm like,

1602
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,879
Speaker 1: I'm starting over. And I found myself at a pizza

1603
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: place talking to two women I didn't know about my breakup,

1604
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: and I just listened. They were so sweet, and then

1605
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: the woman's like, you know, I know what you're going

1606
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 1: through because when I I had a cancer last year

1607
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: and I was in the military and I actually lost

1608
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: my job and it was really hard because during it

1609
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: all culminated in a breakup. So I was losing my

1610
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: and she's and she's not trying to make me feel

1611
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: she's trying to connect, and I'm like, I'm talking about

1612
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: an open relationship that was on the rocks ending and

1613
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, this changed me forever. And she casually mentions

1614
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: her cancer and her and everything, and I was like,

1615
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. I've been talking your

1616
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: ear off for thirty minutes about this breakup and you

1617
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: went through so much. And she's like, you know, but

1618
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: pain is pain, and it was. And then she was like,

1619
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: but also I drowned less. Oh my god, pain is pain. Heway,

1620
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: I saw Parasite when I was really like depressed, and

1621
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: I found it comforting. Yeah, that movie gets It's a

1622
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: great really tough to watch at the end, like like

1623
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 1: in terms of like what happens to it's brilliant, brilliant, amazing.

1624
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: I think it's time for I don't think so, it's

1625
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: actually is I've actually been afraid of this. Yeah, were wingers,

1626
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't think honey. We'll just in case you didn't

1627
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: know what I don't think, so, honey, use I'll tell

1628
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 1: you what it is now, which is our one minute

1629
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: segment where we take a minute to ramp to get

1630
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: something in pop culture that is kind of like making

1631
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: us feel I don't know, not so good, and we

1632
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about it in a negative way, but

1633
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: cathartic way for and we do that energetically energetically. Do

1634
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: you have something I have? I do have something. Can

1635
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: you also talk about something? Because it's anything in like

1636
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: culture and you're in your world, anything in the word.

1637
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll hear ours and you'll be like, Okay,

1638
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: that's all very silly. Okay, So you want to go first.

1639
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time

1640
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Quimby doubters, Okay, honey.

1641
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: I know you like to make your jokes. I know

1642
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: some people out there like to make jokes. But my

1643
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: my thing right now is that I have a show

1644
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: on Quimby and you all have to download it or

1645
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mad. And I think you should doubt

1646
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: it because you should not doubt. I think you should

1647
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: not doubt it, should download it because there's gonna be

1648
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: good ship on it. Like Game Show, My Show with

1649
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: Dave Mazzoni, which is launching with Quimby on April six

1650
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: and has lots of amazing guest stars like Bowen Yang.

1651
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: I think there's also going to be lots of good

1652
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: ship on there. Like Christie Teagans show, Christie's Court. Lots

1653
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: of good shit on there, like Steven Spielberg has a

1654
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: thing that's coming out, and you should just look at

1655
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: the roster of talent involved and you'll like it. Quimby doubters.

1656
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any more jokes about Quimby

1657
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: because it's important to me that it goes well. However,

1658
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: I do understand that tweeting jokes also gets the name

1659
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: Quimby in everyone's mind. So continued to tweet, continue to talk, talk,

1660
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 1: talk to your thing, but you can never book my shine.

1661
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: And that's the one with the David Mazzoni shout out,

1662
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: shout out, and you know Dave from the Diversity, Okay,

1663
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: so funny, he loves you. He described it that he

1664
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: had the Amorosa storyline. Yes, he said he had the

1665
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 1: Amarossa storyline of CBS Diversity and that he wasn't there

1666
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: but had like when he would come in, he felt

1667
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: like like no one liked him because he was working

1668
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: on game show, and like he would have to miss

1669
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot of rehearsals, and so he had he was

1670
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: like a shady character at the beginning, and then was

1671
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: beloved by the wow that we love that. That's such

1672
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: a good arc. He loves you. Oh, I think he's

1673
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: really funny. Yeah, he's he said, you know who gets it,

1674
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Valley. I'm like, And then I said, we had

1675
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: a lunch and he talked about Aladdin. Well, the thing

1676
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: is like Aladdin was so born that I blocked it out.

1677
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Aladdin, night stick, it doesn't stick. Okay, I

1678
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: will not remain speechless, um bowen. Yeah. Yeah, here's the

1679
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: thing about you. Mm hmmm, it's your I don't think so, honey.

1680
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: On this the episode with Jimmy Fowler. Okay, and your

1681
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Cool party hotels, Like,

1682
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: make hotels what they're supposed to be, which is where

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01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: people go to sleep at night and not have a

1684
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: pool situation or a roof situation. Stop trying to make

1685
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: hotels cool. They're not. I remember when hotels, the pinnacle

1686
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: of hotels were damn Best Western's Hilton's and you got

1687
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: what you paid for, no frills, no musk, no fuss. Okay,

1688
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: and now now you got your standards and your gangs.

1689
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: It's bullshit. It's bullshit. If you throw a party at

1690
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: a hotel, I will lose respect for you, darling, and

1691
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: you better throw your birthday party at a bull long alley.

1692
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: Bring me back to the days of modest birthday parties

1693
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: without having some likely limp bar with fucking rat ratan

1694
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: and wicker bullshit all around. Let's go back to basics.

1695
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: You gotta go to some sex site specific birthday party

1696
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: that it's not a hotel, because who are you fooling?

1697
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: No one's sleeping there, no one's drinking there. It's it's

1698
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: it's it's it's in between worlds. And that's when I'm

1699
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: actually already happy about that. Yeah, like these really cool

1700
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: hotels like you know, Yotel and like New York, like

1701
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: are these psycho hotels? I'm like, this is kind of amazing,

1702
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: but it's it's just also weird, and it's like, what

1703
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: where did these people come from? I also want to

1704
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: say no frills, no must, no fuss. That's actually a

1705
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: real culture number twenty five frills, no must, no fuss.

1706
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: And my favorite birthday I ever had was at a

1707
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: roller skating rink, and I think the community should do

1708
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: that more that more. There isn't you have you ever

1709
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: been to my boyfriend and Brendan. They go a lot.

1710
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Vicky l A. Gays are very good at the roller

1711
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: skating culture. Where where is it? Can you plug? It's

1712
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: in Glendale. I think it's called Moonlight roller Derby. It's

1713
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: so funn They actually even have a gay night fun.

1714
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: We should go, we should go, we should go Wednesday. Okay,

1715
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: it's Wednesday's right, it's happening. Okay, next time, next time,

1716
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: next time. I'm here on Wednesday. And then in York

1717
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: over the summer's people in Prospect Park gay nights and skating.

1718
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp and I went to Beyonce Night last year

1719
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: and in Prospect Park all the gays were out. It

1720
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: was so fun. That is everyone knows that a roller

1721
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: skate well, I blade. I was a blader as a kid. Yeah,

1722
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: I was a big blader. I was walking. Yeah, I

1723
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: was good enough. Yeah. I could never figure out like

1724
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: skateboards either. I just yeah, I tried to skateboard in college,

1725
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: like you know, and that's your pastor wiped out pretty

1726
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: bad and I was done. Yeah. No, I mean it's

1727
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: not for us skateboards or straight culture. It's actually culture.

1728
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Number twenty one skateboards, skate rate boards skateboards are straight

1729
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: culture that they should be called straight boards. Okay, now

1730
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I think it's type for Jimmy Fowley's I don't think so, honey.

1731
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: And it actually is time, and Jimmy, your time starts now.

1732
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Honey. My sister who forgot my

1733
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 1: grandma died twice. Honey, I told you about Christmas. Okay,

1734
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 1: I cried on the phone. Of course, it was a

1735
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: sad day. Six months later, when we grabbed lunch in

1736
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: l A with our aunt, you said, I really miss Mark.

1737
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I want to meet his kids. I miss Grandma Fouley,

1738
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: to which we said she passed and she and you said,

1739
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: no one told him, and I said, I told you.

1740
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Six months after that U uh uh, Christmas card with

1741
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty dollars from Grandma Fouley was circulated to you from

1742
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Dad saying this is obviously the last part from Grandma Fouley.

1743
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: And you you called me and said that was kind

1744
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: of shady that Dad said that, because it's implying that

1745
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: she may die soon. And I said, honey, she died.

1746
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: This is truly the third time I told you you

1747
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 1: need to remember this stuff. You are a drug addict.

1748
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: I love you, honey, No, you are a drug addict.

1749
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I love you. It's true, you are a drug addict.

1750
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: I love you. Wait a minute, on Christmas Day that

1751
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: she's an icon. You told her on Christmas Day that

1752
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 1: she had passed away. I told it was it was

1753
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: a few days I think before after Christmas. I was

1754
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 1: home and she was she was away. She was back

1755
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: in l A. Because you have a fucking holiday anchoring

1756
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 1: the damn memory of oh Grandma fui. It was haunting,

1757
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is scary because it really

1758
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: was me each time saying and she said, no one

1759
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: told me. My favorite part is the third time where

1760
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: she received a card and the dad said, this is

1761
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: obviously the last card from Grandma Alley and she said,

1762
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: it's actually shady that he's implying I's been dead for there.

1763
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. She's like, she's like, obviously implying. Honest,

1764
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: she's so righteous and like yeah, and she's like, come

1765
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: onto this theory that I had. Why would he imply this?

1766
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Christina Fowley, Oh my god, damn mind listen to this.

1767
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't even think you get reception to podcasts at

1768
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: your house. Why would he imply this. That's so funny.

1769
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good Grandma Fowley. Oh no, we'll

1770
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: rest in peace and we respect and we love and

1771
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: we remember Grandma Fouley. Um. Oh she never my grandparents

1772
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: never sent money. Yeah, that's but they were in a

1773
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: different country. Yeah. Actually they gave me plenty of money,

1774
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: just Chinese New Year in the red envelopes they gave me. Um.

1775
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: This is a fantastic episode. We had the best time.

1776
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: I love you guys. You are out of content role

1777
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: hilarious spelled. However you want to l a R e

1778
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: O s. You really do and like your friends, like

1779
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: not to be too corny, but like your friendship, your

1780
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 1: back and it's just it's awesome and I think that

1781
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: you guys see what you do. I'm such a huge

1782
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: fan of you. Guys. We we We've been admiring and

1783
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 1: loving you from far for the time. You truly are.

1784
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, we never really got to meet

1785
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: and hang out because of being in different cities, but

1786
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm so excited we're in the same city now and

1787
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 1: I wish we would hang out more. We have to. Okay,

1788
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: you hear it here and you heard her right now,

1789
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and actually if you don't see me and Jimmy hang

1790
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: out together, just know that um kill us, skilts us,

1791
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: or just know that intense drama happened right after we

1792
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: wrap and that and actually, if you asked me about it,

1793
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Yes, I will spill all the tea

1794
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: come on, um, But for now, until then, we do

1795
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: end every episode with a song, and that song is

1796
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: drop everything now, eat me in the pouring rain, Kiss

1797
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 1: me on the sad, take away the pain. Because us

1798
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: see sparks flack every Remember when I just said and

1799
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I see sparks fot I said, fee sparks flack. Guys,

1800
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: I fee I fee sparks five. We love you. Bye bye,

1801
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Hey guys, It's me Matt Rogers again. Just wondering if

1802
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: you pre ordered Quimby yet. Um. Just as a little reminder,

1803
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: A game show, my show that I created with Dave Mazzoni,

1804
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: is premiering on April six on Quimby two straight men

1805
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: competing on each episode to be called gay as fuck

1806
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: and earned the title of Queen of the Streets. Who

1807
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: will win? What are the shenanigans we put them through?

1808
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: Does anything that happens matter? All these questions are more

1809
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: answered only on game show on Clibby April six and

1810
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: the April trial. Do it