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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Charlie. US stocks are week again today made

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Speaker 1: taking Stock with Pim Fox and Kathleen Nades on Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: A big win for the Internet today, a federal court

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Speaker 1: up held net neutrality regulations designed to ensure an open

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Speaker 1: Internet at handed a victory to the BABA administration and

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Speaker 1: a defeat to telephone and cable providers here to talk

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Speaker 1: to us about net neutrality. What this decision means for

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Speaker 1: the large corporations who are driving at what it means

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Speaker 1: for consumers is our own match shutting Helm. He's communications

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Speaker 1: litigation analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence in Washington, d C. Matt Welcome, Thanks, Kathleen,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I love the way you sum

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Speaker 1: up what net neutrality is in one of your primers

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Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Intelligence. You say it prevents roadblocks, tolls, and

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Speaker 1: fast lanes for Internet traffic. And even though Internet service

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Speaker 1: providers owner control that infrastructure, the wires or wireless spectrum

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Speaker 1: on which Internet traffic travels, neutrality limits those I s

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Speaker 1: p s power talk to us about what this means. Sure,

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Speaker 1: sure so, so that's exactly right. So the basic idea

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Speaker 1: behind net neutrality is that the Internet works best as

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Speaker 1: an open highway for for all traffic. And so even

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Speaker 1: though your Internet service provider be at a T N

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Speaker 1: though they own effectively the facilities that bring you the Internet,

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Speaker 1: the idea here is that they shouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: exercise total control over all that traffic. And so the

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Speaker 1: SEC adopted three rules. It said that I s P

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to block traffic, it shouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to do UH deals to prioritize certain traffics. So, for example,

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Speaker 1: video service provider. All traffic should be able to drive

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Speaker 1: on the same roads on the same terms, Matt, who

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Speaker 1: are on the opposing sides you mentioned A T and T,

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Speaker 1: this debate. Who's on the other side, That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So so so they have have brought the challenge that

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Speaker 1: the Internet service providers on the other side. You have

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Speaker 1: the FCC UH that that has adopted this rule, adopted

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Speaker 1: these rules, and it's defending those rules in courts. The

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Speaker 1: FCC is supported by by Internet type companies, companies that

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Speaker 1: that depend on reaching end users and wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: be interfered with by those Internet service providers whose pipes

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Speaker 1: they have to ride on. So companies like etc. Twitter, Netflix,

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Speaker 1: the Internet. UH, they support Google, I would imagine Google.

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Speaker 1: although it's increasingly becoming an Internet service provider itself as

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Speaker 1: in some areas. So it's it's historically been a strong

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Speaker 1: supporter of net neutrality. It has supported these rules as well,

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Speaker 1: maybe not as strongly as it did in earlier years. Well, then,

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Speaker 1: if I'm an investor, how does this change anything for me?

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Speaker 1: Because it's the court upheld the existing system. Does this

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Speaker 1: make it harder for those providers to make money and

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Speaker 1: enrich their shareholders? Well, from the company's perspective, the problem

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Speaker 1: The SEC always sort of took a hands off approach

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Speaker 1: because it was always outside of the law. Um. But

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Speaker 1: but since the SEC kept losing these net neutrality cases,

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Speaker 1: and this is the third time it's tried to adopt

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Speaker 1: this rule, these rule, and this is only the first

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Speaker 1: time that it's actually succeeded. In order to to justify

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Speaker 1: its rules, it brought internet service within to the heart

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Speaker 1: of the law. So it has the broadest potential power

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Speaker 1: over the service going forward. It effectively gets to determine

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Speaker 1: what is a reasonable practice under a very vague standard

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Speaker 1: UH going forward. So so, what what the companies I

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Speaker 1: think are most concerned about here isn't these net neutrality rules?

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Speaker 1: They said, Hey, we we want to We want to

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Speaker 1: protect net neutrality as much as the SEC wants it.

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Speaker 1: But what the companies are concerned about is what is

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Speaker 1: the FEC going to do with that broad reasonableness power

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Speaker 1: uh to oversee internet service going forward? If rates get

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Speaker 1: regulate the rates UH next? I think that's that's sort

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Speaker 1: of the big driver of the lawsuit. Matt just quickly,

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Speaker 1: is this the last legal word on neutrality? Well, if

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Speaker 1: if the Internet service providers have their way, it won't be.

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Speaker 1: They they will likely ask the full Appeals Court to

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Speaker 1: reconsider this decision, and that will be due at the

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Speaker 1: end of July. They also have the option to take

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Speaker 1: this to the Supreme Court or try to take this

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, but that's a that's a tough

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Speaker 1: tough road to to follow that the Supreme Court denies

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Speaker 1: most cases. So this very well could be the final

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Speaker 1: word in the case. Thank you very much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Matt Chettenheim is communications litigation analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Joining

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