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Speaker 1: And welcome to the New Roy Maul Show. I don't

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Speaker 1: so I think we could just do the drive. We're

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Speaker 1: starting episode nineteen in La.

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Speaker 2: In l a h our second home at this point.

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Speaker 1: Well more more so your second definitely prefer Houston. Nasty

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Speaker 1: white boy. Uh we are. We are here with two amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing friends and talents. We have Young Guru and Hip

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Speaker 1: Hop aka Males.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 1: Now I feel like you're Mall's brother.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: How does that shift happening? Because Ma used to be

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Speaker 1: used to be Hop's brother.

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Speaker 3: Now you're mas brother. Definitely.

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Speaker 2: That's that's big bro, man, that's all. I'm always hot brother,

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Speaker 2: forever for sure.

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Speaker 3: Always.

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Speaker 1: Well, when we were in La, we figured we do

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Speaker 1: an episode here in the eighteenth anniversary of the Black

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Speaker 1: Album just passed yesterday as we're recording this, so we figured,

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Speaker 1: why not dedicate an entire episode.

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Speaker 2: Two of the key figures and the album being created

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Speaker 2: and given to the world that piece of art.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, and you as well. I'm the only

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Speaker 1: one here that was not involved in making the Black Album.

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Speaker 1: So I feel a little left out. I was listening,

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Speaker 1: I was involved in enjoying Oh Please. When he retired,

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Speaker 1: the city became yours.

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Speaker 3: No, definitely not.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened in the doc.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't retire. We're gonna get into that though,

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Speaker 2: because I never believed that for one second, and he

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Speaker 2: gave the whole speech, this is it.

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Speaker 3: Rappers can't retire. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: That's probably a good place to start. I'd rather start

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Speaker 1: post Blueprint two when that finished. Was that kind of

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Speaker 1: I think I only got one more left in me.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it definitely was. I definitely know it was the

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like I got one more in me, but

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Speaker 4: it was, yeah, I'm a you know, let's really knock

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Speaker 4: this one out because this is it. But I didn't

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Speaker 4: think it was like forever. But we knew the consistency

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Speaker 4: of albums every year was just becoming redund there. He

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Speaker 1: And did did that happen while recording post Blueprint two?

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Speaker 4: Nah, this is the only album that was preconceived.

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Speaker 3: It's the only album that we really about before we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like there's a direct plan. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if y'all remember we did a like a teaser, right,

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Speaker 5: we put out like artwork that had untitled tracks and

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Speaker 3: These are the producers I'm gonna work with.

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Speaker 5: Like how saying it's a concentrated thought of this is

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Speaker 1: Just happened sort of thing you forced him to do

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, here something he can he can take some

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Speaker 3: Part of it's partly his faulty. He was just murdering

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So was that process because I know I do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we definitely sat down because what we realized

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Speaker 3: We was like, yo, what we're gonna do?

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Speaker 4: And we came to the conclusion that hey, we need

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Speaker 3: I want to like Pete Rock somebody else in that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pree was kind of like in the regular category,

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Speaker 4: and then it was also let's try to expand it

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Speaker 2: I like, I like that story about Rick Rubin that

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Speaker 1: I feel like an the doc I forgot who said

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Speaker 5: But that's his range though, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: to have to have a Grammy for Beastie Boys and

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Speaker 5: and like, I don't know, I guess I got excited

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Speaker 3: I wasn't you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like like I was handling like everything at baseline and

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Speaker 5: then hot was like going wherever Jay had to fly to,

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Speaker 5: so like to go to see Rick Rubin, to go

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Speaker 5: That's really what was That's what we were. Yeah, No, definitely,

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Speaker 5: because that's why it was basically like an A and

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Speaker 4: Had a budget that was like whatever, you had an

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Speaker 4: We're already laid it out. So it wasn't like I

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Speaker 3: It came and changed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that that came and changed the whole the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: But when that record came, it was like, oh wow,

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Speaker 4: the concept was that it's no singles, it's no marketing,

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Speaker 3: The original idea was going to be nothing on the cover. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: nothing on the cover, like a black cover, and that's.

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Speaker 4: That, And that's why the producers putting that out there

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Speaker 3: It that way.

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Speaker 4: That's why I think it sounds so complete, where there's

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Speaker 1: Which is kind of weird because it is one of

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Speaker 5: And Hot made this point to me a while ago,

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Speaker 5: But this time was just like free to's just like

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Whereas before that were definite

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Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, I want to talk about the importance that

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Speaker 2: and professionally and as men, like how important was Baseline

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Speaker 5: And I don't know that's the best way for me

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Speaker 5: first time where if if you trace what actually happened,

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Speaker 5: I was working with Bleak on his second album right then,

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Speaker 5: that's when Waran and Malik Seely put together studio Resting

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Speaker 5: Peace in Elik Ceiling. That's when they put it together.

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Speaker 5: So our first couple of sessions going over there the

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Speaker 5: Walls wasn't even finished yet, right, But Jay had come

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Speaker 5: to check on Bleak on another session that we was doing.

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Speaker 5: He said, Yo, come to Baseline. So my initial entrance

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Speaker 4: So it was easy for to be like Jay went

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Speaker 5: My biggest point though, was like when I got to Baseline.

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Speaker 5: Hop is one of the reason why I stayed at

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Speaker 4: he got some music. Here come by Kanye with some music.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's like fat X take

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Speaker 5: So live of that studio though, That's what I think.

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Speaker 5: Wall would be like, Yo, tell me when the toilet

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Speaker 3: Even with the equipment. I brote a list. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: I said, get all this stuffs mosburgers esself, get this,

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Speaker 5: So that's the real that's the real people talk all

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't really I'm

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Speaker 5: Go in there and take a shower real quick and

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Speaker 3: And we'll share it.

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Speaker 3: That's how it was, like, well that's my man.

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Speaker 5: I'm coming back with two of them. So we're gonna

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Speaker 5: everything we did, where we at and how I gonna go. Okay,

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Speaker 5: this person's ready, this person's read. Okay, we got how

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Speaker 3: Or this is what you know what we need to leave.

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Speaker 5: We need to go do this thing like that was

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Speaker 5: That's the whole reason that came about, was like, yo,

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Speaker 5: It transfer over from being just beat to being like

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Speaker 4: It started getting battles, started getting battles, you know what

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Speaker 3: Get into the rock. You know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 4: And it was like, all right, will come Wednesday and

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Speaker 3: That little ass right there.

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Speaker 4: We all sat there, Everybody was there, mufflers come from

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Speaker 2: I think the first day that Chris rapped for Jay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It was like it was Stroves a Philadelphia rappers at

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Speaker 4: It was like we might have missed the first five

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Speaker 1: Got did any of them end up to be anybody.

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Speaker 4: Like Dutch your Spade, Your Spade, app Liva my Man,

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Speaker 4: like I would have wish and Bonnie Philly most wanted.

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Speaker 3: Philly most wanted was first.

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Speaker 4: And then it was like, okay, now we got the

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Speaker 3: They kept signing.

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Speaker 4: I think they signed the prize and somebody else signed

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Speaker 1: Like that what we had, we had this and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah it worked out because it made it. Literally next

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Speaker 3: I like, come on, you know what I'm saying, Amaze

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Speaker 1: Right with all that organization that you had to do

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Speaker 1: when black album happens? Like when Jay says he I

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Speaker 4: Ye did one album at a time. Most of the

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Speaker 4: the end of somebody else's album, Like you know what

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Speaker 3: Was for Beans.

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Speaker 4: Initially it was like takeover a couple of things was

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Speaker 3: I think we did think it's a game or something

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Speaker 4: And then next thing you know, I played them for

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Speaker 4: j and he was like, you took all them things,

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Speaker 4: a tape that nothing had to do with the Blueprint.

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Speaker 4: Nothing had to do it for Jay and nothing. I

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Speaker 4: just gave it to Jay because it was too many

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Speaker 4: good beats on one tape, and we and he did.

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Speaker 1: Them, which was the session for Black album that started

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Speaker 3: That is a good question. I'm not sure. I always

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Speaker 3: I know that.

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Speaker 5: I know we was like we had a day where

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Speaker 5: like maybe two days, right, we were just playing beats

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Speaker 5: and playing beats and playing beat and he wasn't robbing

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Speaker 4: Them, kind of like the Fade the Black scene.

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Speaker 5: But to be clear, those aren't the beats the beats

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Speaker 5: It would have cost us to two hundred thousand dollars sample.

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Speaker 5: So we just made, you know, to get the point

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Speaker 5: of yeah, to get the point we found.

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Speaker 3: It was we could use.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. We we used those like the Dope Man beat

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Speaker 4: it was stuff that was a little flatant but I

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Speaker 4: the Buchanans, because we did the Summer Fourth early.

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Speaker 5: We did we did that early. If not, if not

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Speaker 3: It was early too.

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Speaker 4: On cores real, I remember the earlier records we had

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Speaker 4: was Encore Do you want? What more can I say?

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Speaker 4: The Summer Fourth it was wasn't.

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Speaker 3: At that time too like that didn't make it. Little

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Speaker 3: It was early little jobs. It was like like Scott

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00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 3: Storks was early.

442
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 4: A lot of people we had early to where it

443
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 4: didn't really you know, it didn't really hit like that,

444
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it was a little

445
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 4: too early.

446
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 5: Trying to think that folder like unused, who was messing

447
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 5: with art in life? I remember it was the was

448
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 5: around at that time. Bank definitely got at least three

449
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 5: beats that I was trying to push.

450
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, some good ones didn't make it. Who else is

451
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 3: in there?

452
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 4: It's tough because because first at first we were sticking

453
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 4: to the list, so we was going to see people.

454
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: We did go see Dre. We did try to deal

455
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 4: with things. Even Rick Rubin was ninety. Problems was early

456
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 4: as well. That was early because then the Pharll records came,

457
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 4: the Timberland records, you know what I mean, Like those

458
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 4: came along.

459
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,479
Speaker 5: I think I think you skipping over certain things too

460
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 5: hot because of the fact that like you organized it

461
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 5: in a way that you was like okay once we

462
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 5: got those things.

463
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: I remember specifically.

464
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 5: Going, y'all, you was like, this is Pharrell's week, And

465
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 5: I remember sitting in there at Pharrell working for a week.

466
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 5: I remember being hype when when you was like, yo,

467
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 5: this is about to be DJ Quicks a week. I

468
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 5: had never worked and as much as I idolized Quick,

469
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 5: I had never worked with him. So as much as

470
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 5: my career is a certain way, it's not till later

471
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 5: that I get to work with like my West Coast idols,

472
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

473
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: So like it's it's for me.

474
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 5: As much as we study, the sound is for me

475
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 5: is Dre, Battle Cat and Quick. That all responsible for

476
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 5: what I love and what'st coach music. So I was

477
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 5: I remember that because I was big like and then

478
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 5: it's like having this expectation of how good the session

479
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 5: is going to.

480
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: Be, and it's a million times better. Right.

481
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: It's funny with the Faril thing because we talked about

482
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: that yesterday in the dock when Pharrell was on the

483
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: phone with Jay's like, I got hotpyer, I got grou here.

484
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: They say, you're gonna do the whole record in one night.

485
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize when you're saying that whole

486
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: week time where it's just you guys in there with

487
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: the producer putting it together for Jay rather than Forrell

488
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: and J are gonna sit in this room and try

489
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: to put something together.

490
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Jay style would be more like he'd be there.

491
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 5: And again you gotta remember this is there's no nets,

492
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 5: there's no forty forty forty we didn't have. So baseline

493
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 5: was the hangout at like two o'clock, three clock, he's

494
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 5: not only just the artist, but three o'clock he's gonna

495
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: come check on what he doing, see what the artist

496
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 5: is doing.

497
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: He's, you know, head of the label. So with the hangout, Yeah,

498
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: and that's.

499
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: What Pharrell record was the reason why he had to

500
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: call J and really explain it to him because he

501
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 4: already did excuse.

502
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: Me, miss, and he was only supposed to do one.

503
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah he did two. You know what I'm saying.

504
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: I know yet, but the fact that it was like, yeah,

505
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: so that was one that we knew was gonna break

506
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: the rules, you know what I'm saying. So he was

507
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 4: we were saying it in that way because he was like, no,

508
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: you gotta hear this one. You're gonna use this one.

509
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: And I'm like, but we're done, and it's like and

510
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 4: he played it. We was like, oh shoot, because I

511
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: don't think we was there when he did it. It

512
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 4: was like we either came in or he was like, yo,

513
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: come in and listen to this, or something happened and

514
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: he played it and it was like, oh.

515
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you might not be in the room, like say,

516
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 5: say Forarrel's in there, right, we might be in the

517
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 5: back playing PlayStation or whatever. Give him his time to like,

518
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 5: because Farrell is that good. He would do ten B today,

519
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And Jay would walk in

520
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: and you're almost getting there. It's almost there or that's right,

521
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 5: but it ain't right for this whatever whatever the reason is,

522
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And Farrella is never one

523
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 5: of those that's like, oh man, he's some producers.

524
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: You you don't see the vision. Yeah, they try to

525
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: talk you into the beat.

526
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 5: Forrell is just like all right, I'm gonna sell these

527
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 5: to whoever anyway, you know what I mean. So that's

528
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 5: that's what it was with him, And then they locked

529
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 5: in on that joint and it was just a law.

530
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: You can't how many beats do you think he played,

531
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: y'all before he got to a law.

532
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 4: When he played a law, he played a law straight up.

533
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 4: But he was in there for a couple of days.

534
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: So let's say he might have did was that excuse me,

535
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: miss or is that.

536
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: Right?

537
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he might have did that in the beginning of

538
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: the week or something like that. They might have said, see,

539
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: we can knock another one out, you know what I'm saying,

540
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 4: because he was there for the week change change close. Yes,

541
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: I get those two mixed up. Yeah, so it was yeah,

542
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: so it was like okay, because we knew what that was.

543
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: So it was kind of like, okay, we know we

544
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: got one of those because that.

545
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: Was it just worked, you know what I'm saying.

546
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: It was just something it was like, you know, so

547
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: I think that's where the records sounding not really having

548
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: a sound because all those producers were so established in

549
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: what they was.

550
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: Doing in their sound. So it's like a foraral record.

551
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: And then they records.

552
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: They gave us different records for a Law and Lot.

553
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 4: But the shoulders Off wasn't just you know, it got

554
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: the bounce, but it still wasn't just the triplet timp.

555
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: It was a different type of you know what I mean.

556
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: More straightforward tim which kind of felt and with the album, yeah, because.

557
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 5: Even that still that but but they they did more

558
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: records like that. First he plays one beat and that

559
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 5: ended up being a ludicrous beat. There was another beat

560
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: that he played that's that's like it's one of them,

561
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: Oh my god, but it's not dirt off, you know

562
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 5: what I mean, It's not dirt and Jay rapped to

563
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 5: that and it was a cool record. But then when

564
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 5: you do dirt it's like, Okay, that knocks that out. So,

565
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 5: like I said, everybody was sort of flexing their muscle.

566
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 5: But then you got to the Farrell had some other

567
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 5: joints that I thought was just I tried to pass

568
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: that one.

569
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: Don't get your head busts off, the bleak so many.

570
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 5: Times I was just like, oh my god, it was

571
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 5: but it is what it is, Like we got to

572
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: the to the right.

573
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: Ones ps A record. We were talking about that last

574
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: night when y'all first heard that that beat.

575
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: Did y'all know Jay.

576
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: Is definitely taking his beat? Or was that something where

577
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: it was like y'all was surprised at what Jay did

578
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: with it?

579
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: Now it kind of sat I'm thinking, might get that

580
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: but mixed up.

581
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 5: With yeah, no, nothing, because Big Jack came through with that.

582
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 5: With that record. Big Jack is like one of one

583
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 5: of the dudes that like just you know, family with

584
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: Just and like he record dude, you know what I mean,

585
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: producers as well, but you know, just Just is an

586
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 5: intense digger, like he would dig all the time. And

587
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 5: I think Jack came through with that record and then

588
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 5: just flipped it and that was late.

589
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about it was late in the album.

590
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: It was super late doing press right, Yeah he was, Yeah.

591
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: He was doing press of like one in the A room.

592
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: We would have people come in. They listened to the

593
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 5: album again for the audience. You know what I'm saying, Like,

594
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: you gotta remember back then, it wasn't just pressed the

595
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 5: button to go up on the internet.

596
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: In order for us to get a review.

597
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 5: In a magazine the month that it drops, we had

598
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: to kind of give it in two months ahead of time. Yeah,

599
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because like I was saying,

600
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: the the February issue comes out in January, but you

601
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 5: had to really give them everything in December, and we

602
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 5: had to still go through to like.

603
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: This is for Rory and male only.

604
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 5: Like if I was giving y'all that to review the album,

605
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 5: I would say that on the mic, put it on

606
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: the thing, and then you wouldn't get it.

607
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: So I know, if the leak came who it came from.

608
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: Some people would come to the studio and just hit

609
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: the record. Yeah yeah, like the Stephen Hills or whoever.

610
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

611
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: So throughout the but it'd be like a month of

612
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: just people coming by because it's it's that period of

613
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: it's out, it's it's sent out, or it's getting cleared.

614
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: Those things are starting to happen. We need people to

615
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 4: write about it and people just.

616
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: Coming in listening to it. We're getting the vibe. That

617
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: was a great part.

618
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 5: He's in the a room and handling and it's not

619
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 5: just one you know what I'm saying, These ten writers

620
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: come in another ten come in another time. So in

621
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: between no sessions, he's coming in the b room Justice

622
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 5: playing the beat and he's writing again in his in

623
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 5: his mind, which makes it incredible because then he gots

624
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 5: an stop, he hasn't laid anything yet, Go do another

625
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: session over here, come back, and now he got four

626
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: more lines. So he's thinking about the lines while he

627
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: in here holding court.

628
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned that one of the lines came from one

629
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: of the interviews that was actually happening.

630
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't it, well it was.

631
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: I think it got him into a fever right where

632
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 5: it was just like somebody in the room asked a

633
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: blatant question that was answered in the song. He was like, Yo,

634
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: did you just listen to the song? So he was like, gool,

635
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: just play a cappella so they could really get what

636
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Number one, but I'm saying PSA is a

637
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: direct result of someone writing an article about his roots performance.

638
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: So it's sort of like him responding to the And

639
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: I can't remember specifically what the writer said, but she

640
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: was so big on yo.

641
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: He has a chager.

642
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 5: Vera's shirt on and his diamond encrusted rock chain keeps

643
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 5: hitting his face and it hurts.

644
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: Me every time. It's like, what are you talking about?

645
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

646
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: So that's what led him into all of verses to

647
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 5: me in PSA, especially the second one, it's talking directly

648
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: to her like I'm not an angel.

649
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

650
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Would bling on, I'm complex, there's more. I'm not just

651
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: the chae of era. I like change too.

652
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the whole point.

653
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I do want to just run through some records and

654
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: just if anything pops up from each session.

655
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: Hold on, is this the album? He rapped? What you

656
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: mean in one take?

657
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: The whole album, the entire did a lot of it.

658
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 4: It won't take you know when he did in one session,

659
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: Like when when he said the things and wrapped for

660
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: like half an hour and kept wrapping and he told

661
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: you to race it.

662
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

663
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wrapped the whole album and instead of how

664
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: he rapped for thirty minutes, the.

665
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Set of races.

666
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it was like he raced it.

667
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: It's not it's not okay, let's let's be clear.

668
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: And it's two times with people in history where people

669
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: famously say erase.

670
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: And let's be clear to the audience about what that means.

671
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: Right, if I remove a track in pro Tous, the

672
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: audio is still there, right, It's it's just I can

673
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: just make it so it's not on the screen. So

674
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: with the old Boy verse and with this I talk

675
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: about it still exists, you know what I'm saying. And

676
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: then there are times when you gotta download the computer record.

677
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's rock. It's a lot. We'll leave that one,

678
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: leave that one.

679
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: What happened with that free record? Yeah, but you know download. Yeah,

680
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: he like he went in and was like he's called

681
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: it free play. Yeah, he called it free play where

682
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: he just go in and just rap. And sometime he'd

683
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 4: do it before the album and it'd just be like

684
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: all the verses that he got in his head.

685
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, download, like get it out here.

686
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just went just throwing the beat.

687
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: No, it'll be like one beat because it was pro tools,

688
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: so it'll be like one beat, and he had just

689
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: he would just go for like fifteen twenty minutes or

690
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: something like that.

691
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: It felt like I.

692
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Tell people all the time, seeing Jay Uh in the

693
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: studio at Baseline, like he's literally rapping. He could be

694
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: looking at you, mhm. You think he talking to you,

695
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: but he's rapping.

696
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: He's not.

697
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: He don't even really really see you, m hm. And

698
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: he's rapping. He go to the wall, wrap to the wall,

699
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: look up at the ceiling, rap rap rap. And then

700
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: if you sitting down here, just come stand right by

701
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: your ear and start spinning. And it's like I'm standing

702
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: and I look. I'm like, yo, this dude is crazy.

703
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: Man.

704
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: But to see him just hear the beat, yeah, and

705
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: then walk out the rooms, open the door, and Guru

706
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: already know once he going there, Yeah, called like he ready,

707
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: it's not even he Hi'm gott to talk about it

708
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: to me. It's crazy to know that Jay does that

709
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: for every single verse, like no writing at all, Like

710
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: literally is here the beat, walk around the room, rap

711
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: to himself, open the door, going to booth, lay it.

712
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: Down like it's no talking. It's like he'd never be

713
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: like I like that beat.

714
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: It's just he just starts and we just know, you know,

715
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: leave it, let it keep playing, you know what I mean.

716
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: He might say he don't like it, you know what

717
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

718
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: Skip, But if you don't say nothing, and then it's

719
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: like you look back and he's like.

720
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: He'll tell you, but he's still yeah, that's on the

721
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: ninth Ninth sessions. Like when when Ninth was playing beats,

722
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: Ninth was like ready, you know what I'm saying, like, oh,

723
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: it's my shot. And he had a CD with like

724
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: ninety nine joint He had multiple CDs with ninety nine

725
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: beats on every CD and he was skipping like Jay

726
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, go to the next one, go to

727
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: the next you know, the producer just in there playing beats.

728
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: So then Nine is taking that CD about to put

729
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: another one. Jay's like, hold on, hold on up, go

730
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: back to number five.

731
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: Number nine, number. He's like the name and number, and

732
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, he's really listening. He's locked in.

733
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 5: It's like his memory like that, like not even with

734
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: just with rot, but like every detail his memory is

735
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: like that, and he would just I don't know, when

736
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: you're playing him joints. He may have an idea and like, Okay,

737
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: let me see what that is. But then even to

738
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: the point where I noticed, if he do it and

739
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: just do the first verse and he don't come back

740
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: to it in the next couple of days, he's.

741
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Never come back.

742
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: No, you forget it, it's never coming back to it. Finished,

743
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: he finished right there, you know what I mean? He

744
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: might have to come back and finish the third something

745
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: like that, or say I got a better third after

746
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: you thought about it.

747
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, more current ship, want to updated or not? He

748
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: just he just be on something like I could do better, imaculate,

749
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna.

750
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Do Will he takes sessions back with him and listen

751
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: to him or was he one of those that just

752
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: I like this, I'll come back. I don't need to

753
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: listen to it again.

754
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would come back earlier. He used to earlier.

755
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: He used to like take the beats, and he used

756
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: to write a lot when he used to drive.

757
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: And then he like.

758
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: He might here'll be take it and call me when

759
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: you get home and be like your book a session.

760
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: I think I got the first verse, you know what

761
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And then by the time you get to

762
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: the studio he got the second verse and might do the.

763
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Third one on the spot.

764
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: So it's like it's already happening, like in that whatever

765
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: little time he got in between what he's when he's

766
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: not doing something.

767
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: You know, I know, I know we touched on a

768
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: couple of records already, but I do want to get

769
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: into each song and which you remember from each session.

770
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: What's started to Simber fourth, that's kind of the intro

771
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: to me. I know there's an aneloud, but December fourth

772
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: felt like that was the real intro. What do you

773
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: all remember from that session?

774
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: I remember his mom's coming in and recording, being like

775
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: kind of like shot or record. I think they had

776
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: to go in the booth for something like that and

777
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: just really coaching her like what to say.

778
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: I was super proud of Dave because I wasn't dead.

779
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: J Mom came and our assistant Dave recorded j mother.

780
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: So like you know, I always record Jay or whatever,

781
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: but that day, like you know, because we always had

782
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 5: cool assistance or whatever, I was like super proud of

783
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: Dave because he that done, like he recorded j Mon

784
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: because it wasn't like again, it's not like my mom

785
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: has a session, you know what I'm saying.

786
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: She popped up and was like thing. It was like

787
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: Dave got they was like out or something like that

788
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: to record the intro, you know what I mean. He

789
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: knew he's gonna do it. So that song definitely sat

790
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: for a little bit without his mother there and just

791
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 4: as a just a concept and he's like, yo, make

792
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: get my mother to fill in those parts.

793
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: Like when the you know, when the beat.

794
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Was changing, this was it hard to convince her.

795
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: No, he must have did it wherever they before they

796
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: got there, gotcha. When she got there, it was like,

797
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: you know.

798
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 5: I remember the the mix though, like I was proud

799
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: to of. I was trying to get to a point

800
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: of trying to master justice. Will have these like screaming

801
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: samples because there's so much energy and trying to like

802
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 5: sonically figure out like how do I keep it bright

803
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: without it being irritating? Yeah, because it's like the it's

804
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 5: just I mean that that thing on this was a

805
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: very determined level of like if I do this, it's

806
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: too dull. If I do this is too bright, then it

807
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: breaks to the beat part and it's like the beat

808
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 5: part is easy like that. So it's like this this

809
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: contrast of that thing and the beat and where we

810
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: ended up with it again as a testament to baseline,

811
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: like you know, being in the same room every day,

812
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 5: knowing that's like another Yeah, the room itself is like

813
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 5: another part of the thing.

814
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: And as far as Jay's mother's vocals even with Smile

815
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: on four forty four, like, she's a very distinct and

816
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: powerful voice. Is that the way you guys have to

817
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: because I've never spoken to her in person. Is that

818
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: a mixed thing? Or is his mother really have that

819
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: type of presence vocally because she sounds like a professional

820
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: or December fourth and on smile like that sounds like

821
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: somebody that literally performs poetry.

822
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 5: Noah, absolutely, And there's there's you know, little like things

823
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 5: of her acceptance of wards and things like that you

824
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 5: can look up online. To me, that's just how she is,

825
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: like a pronunciation.

826
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how her voice is it's almost sort of

827
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: similar like the Jay you know what I mean?

828
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Her ton is very intentional, like a Maya Angel.

829
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: These Bob Marley I call them Bob Marley voices where

830
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: it's just like it's something in their mid range that

831
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 5: it sits well on top of any type of music.

832
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, come through?

833
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what more can I say?

834
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Okay, that's the That was the record to me that

835
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: really set everything off and kind of gave an album.

836
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: It's it's you know, it's theme, it's core Zonically. It

837
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: came like out the Blue from like left field. I

838
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: don't even know how it ended up. I don't even

839
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: know where it came from.

840
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: I don't know who. Brother, I'm trying to think it

841
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: might have been somebody that wasn't gona keep it real Wednesday.

842
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't gonna keep it real Wednesday. It was somebody

843
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: that's close to us gate.

844
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: It got it to Jay or somebody like that, like

845
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: a Big John somebody or even j Brown with somebody

846
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: like that who basically was like, yo, I got to

847
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: be and it was saying what it was saying. It

848
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: might have been like a Chuck or something, you know

849
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: what I mean. It was something like that. And and

850
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: basically what it was saying was basically like, oh this

851
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: is this is it?

852
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: Getting it to Jake? You know, it was kind of

853
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: like one.

854
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: Of those situations and two as he got it, it

855
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: kind of.

856
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: Up the rough, you know it. Basically, you know, we

857
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: had to change plans.

858
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: We have to you know, figure it out because we

859
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: had these producers were about to work with, and here's

860
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: these people we never even heard of up to that point,

861
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: and a song that we know we have to.

862
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Take the encore session, Oh, the encore session.

863
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: It was in that same session that Kanye played all

864
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: in Beats, and that was the one that he kind

865
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: of land on, and he had.

866
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: The whole plan for everything, as far as the whole over.

867
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: And the hook, the cook and well the bok you

868
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like all of that was already

869
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: there as well to where a lot of people was

870
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: coming with their last album Victory Lap Records ready, So

871
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: it was kind of like that. So it kind of

872
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: like in the same fashion as what more can I say,

873
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: it kind of came like, here's the part.

874
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: This is for your last record. That's all you gotta go,

875
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

876
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 4: It was like and he was Kanye in the presentation

877
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: as far you know what I'm saying, just as far

878
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 4: as Yo, you gotta do it this way, you gotta

879
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: do that.

880
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: You know.

881
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: That was like him really coming into his own He

882
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: was already but just being there because a lot of

883
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: times he wasn't there when Jay did the Rector, like

884
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: he wasn't there for no Blueprint records, you know what

885
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So that he was there Ja making it,

886
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: you know, being able to have input and stuff like that.

887
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: So that that's what I remember from that record is just.

888
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: Collye like really producing. And I guess you could say,

889
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: like you.

890
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: Change clothes, change clothes.

891
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: That was in that forar Real week, right, Yeah, but

892
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: it was it was it was early and I know we.

893
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: Went to Virginia, but I don't know what we did.

894
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: I know I went.

895
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: Toga, remember the change clothes. Like I said, it was

896
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: in the middle of a couple for Real.

897
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 5: Records, but it won out as one of the ones

898
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 5: that was like, Okay, this is one of the ones

899
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 5: we gotta keep. And it also, like how I was

900
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: saying earlier, it kind of set it up to where

901
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: we almost would have been like, we don't really need

902
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: a law you know what I mean, like he had

903
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: to play a law like Okay, this is so good,

904
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 5: we can not take this. Even so because his slot

905
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 5: was already for.

906
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we touched on a little bit, but dirt off

907
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: you shoulder, Dirt for shoulder.

908
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: That was that Miami trip where you know, we were

909
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: just making our rounds, just going to see Tim, you know,

910
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: playing out.

911
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: Of He's on that list.

912
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: So we really was checking off the list going down there,

913
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: and at the time he.

914
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: Wasn't doing much. He might have had one of.

915
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: His slowest periods as far as Tim goes, Yeah, but

916
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: this is like posts Aliyah stuff, So he kind of

917
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: like took a break in some ways. So him at

918
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: that time, it wasn't like he wasn't in New York

919
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: at Manhattan Center where he used to be where we

920
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: did everything else at. So we had to travel to

921
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: Miami to the Hit Factory to to.

922
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: Get with him. He was he was based out of

923
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: there at that point.

924
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: And yeah, like I said, it was a regular session,

925
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: just going through a bunch of beats, and which is

926
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: not regular because usually Tim will play one and got

927
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: to be it, or he just give Jay the headphones.

928
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: And because he'd make the beat on the headphones while

929
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: everybody's doing something.

930
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: Always make the beat in the headphones. That's crazy. Yeah,

931
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: and then he gives Jay. He then he passed the headphones.

932
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Off, especially with I feel like that and speakers.

933
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: But that was that.

934
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: That's why that session was different because he was just

935
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: playing everything loud right there, and he had a lot

936
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: of beats ready.

937
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: I think at that point everybody was ready for Jack, you.

938
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. They knew he was coming, he

939
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: was on his way. We booked the session with flights

940
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: so it was like, you know, they was ready with tracks, threats,

941
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 4: threat is, uh yeah that again, and and and as

942
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: Hop points to me, all the stuff really go back

943
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: to Hop.

944
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: So people over the years have always said about you know,

945
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 5: because me and Ninth have become such the best friends.

946
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: We have a company together, you know, like that's my guy,

947
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: Like it's one of my last people that I've met.

948
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: That's really my dude.

949
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: But I learned about Little Brother from Hot so it

950
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: was like he always got his ear to the street

951
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: and always listening.

952
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 3: And you know, I think.

953
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't call it that my heir to the streets

954
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: and that particular end because I got the tape from

955
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: Craig called me because Craig was like, hey, you're like

956
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: this type of thing. And I give Craig a lot

957
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: of credit. You know, same thing with Loop A Little Brother,

958
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he saw those things

959
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: and was like, hey, God, what do you think of this?

960
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: You know, And as soon as I heard Little Brother,

961
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: it was a listening record.

962
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: It was done.

963
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: It was like the best thing I heard up to

964
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: that point in a couple of years, just from just

965
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 4: as an album, as a body of work. I was like, Wow,

966
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: this should sound like some heard in high school, you

967
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was like the first time

968
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: I got that feeling, probably since like maybe a doom

969
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: or something like that. But I'm not sure what this

970
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: is before doing this. This is after I gotcha. Yeah,

971
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: because they did open up for doing.

972
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: But that's that's your thing though, like you always did.

973
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 5: Somebody wouldn't have brought it to you. If you don't

974
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 5: attract that type of thing.

975
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

976
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Back to y'all chemistry and y'all working out well. You

977
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: guys are both like nerds in a good way. Like

978
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: y'all like underground ship, but know how to make mainstream

979
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: ship sound correct. So it's like y'all two of the

980
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: perfect people to be like yo, little brother ninth. Wonder

981
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: this could work on a black album. Very few people

982
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: are like that straight mainstream or the straight underground right.

983
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely what was in the middle of the whole

984
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: all my life, just musically, you know what I mean?

985
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: It was never like I never didn't like region, New

986
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 4: South ship, boom, bad commercial stuff.

987
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Listen to everything it all was.

988
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: It was all but not even just hip hop or

989
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: R and B or like I remember me and hot

990
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: was just geeking out over mud honey like at a

991
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: certain time like that was since We've become Translucent, was

992
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: like one of our albums.

993
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: Nobody people in our world don't even know what that is,

994
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: you know, like we were just or we have certain

995
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 5: things on rotation, like once a week the Outcast, you

996
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 5: know at Aliens or Criminine something like I think at

997
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: Aliens at that point was playing once.

998
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: A week, like he was playing albums in studios. Was incredible,

999
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just playing like in the

1000
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 4: big ass speaking and stuff like that, just playing stuff

1001
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: we grew up all for life or whatever and stuff

1002
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: inspiration for the day of just be like I mean

1003
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: when I came in but I started playing Wayne, Yeah,

1004
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 4: it was just around Cardiff one is yeah for that, Yeah,

1005
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: right around that because I saw the work with them

1006
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: around Cardio one right after it, but it was, yeah,

1007
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: it was around Cardo one yeah, because it was just.

1008
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: Like you know, it was just an attitude like that.

1009
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 4: It was like the coming to that Juy like threat

1010
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: with threat was you know, back to the question of

1011
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: knife and threat.

1012
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: It was just super dope because one the dude who

1013
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: ended up filming Faded Black Gun in Tea. I was

1014
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 5: because Hop had gave me the record. I'm sitting there

1015
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: just tripping, Like I said, it's one of the best

1016
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 5: things I heard in a long time.

1017
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm tripping, trip and tripping.

1018
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: I'm just like, Yo, who is Because normally we know everybody,

1019
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 5: so it's like, who is this dude in the middle

1020
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: of North Carolina? I don't know them? So the dude

1021
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: T was like, Yo, I know him. So I'm like, YO,

1022
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: put him on it, like call and put him on

1023
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: the phone. That I was like, Bro, I don't know

1024
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: who you are. I just fell in love with the album,

1025
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: like this is mean and nine just started kicking and

1026
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: chat and I'm quoting lyrics and I was just like, yo,

1027
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 5: ever come to New York? Like please come? You know

1028
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You got to play beats for Jay

1029
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 5: or whatever. Then I think we like hit quest to

1030
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 5: kind of like nudge that to Jay a little bit,

1031
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: to be like, YO, tell him about Ninth Wonder, like

1032
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it all worked out.

1033
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 5: The day that Jay was like, Y're supposed to be

1034
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 5: meeting this dude named Ninth Wonder.

1035
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, he's here. You know what I mean, boom.

1036
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: Knife walked in like he is humble Bee's on the couch,

1037
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and he just started playing

1038
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 5: beats or whatever, and Jay was just like, Wow, this

1039
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 5: dude is incredible.

1040
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: And the most interesting thing about that session to me

1041
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: was him making a beat on his laptop and fruity

1042
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: loops yeah, on the PC, because to be honest with you,

1043
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: it wasn't really being done at that time, so it

1044
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 4: was kind of like, you're gonna make it right there,

1045
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: you know what i mean. We thought we had to

1046
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: like at that point, like for instance, for round session rentals, Yeah,

1047
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 4: like full rolling forty eighties, you know what I'm saying,

1048
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: as r MPC, A couple other things, you know what

1049
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: I'm saying, A planet fat what you call you know

1050
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like he had all of those things.

1051
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: And I remember that because even when later on I

1052
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: knew what his rental list was, so that was there.

1053
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 4: And then Knife came in with a PC, not.

1054
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: Even a match. He gave it with a PC to

1055
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: be chunky, you know what I'm saying. You know, PC's

1056
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: just started getting like you know what I'm saying.

1057
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 5: He did it on the spot that he played so

1058
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 5: many beats and again it's the same thing, like.

1059
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: I don't even think we had an ac I don't

1060
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: think it was. Yeah, we didn't have We had to

1061
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 3: turn it out right on that quart at that point. Yeah,

1062
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't like about girl.

1063
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: We didn't have a look at him, like he's not

1064
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: a real producer, Like what is this guy doing? Like

1065
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Frell just brought into seventeen keyboards? Like that's the producer

1066
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I need to work with.

1067
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: You have time to say that because literally like he

1068
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 5: again he went over all those beats Jay sometimes would

1069
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: like to beat but don't have an idea to it.

1070
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 5: So so and Jay's you know, Jay had the threat

1071
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: idea and he said the knife you think you could

1072
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: do something with this, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1073
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: And knife sat there right there and flipped it. So

1074
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: you didn't have time. Like twenty minutes later he gave

1075
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: him the thing.

1076
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He Cedric as well, Now

1077
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: what was Jay?

1078
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 5: Had that happen? And what is ill is? I was

1079
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 5: going again through all the old files. I have at

1080
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: least forty minutes of entertainer just doing just saying, wow,

1081
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 5: ship he's.

1082
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: Just in there in character for like forty minutes. Yeah,

1083
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 4: I knew that, and I was thinking about that it

1084
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: was on purpose.

1085
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: I think he had just he was in town, yeah

1086
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: or something like that.

1087
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: And Jay was like, I don't know if Jay Senttim

1088
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: and spoke to him, and he was like, you have

1089
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 4: set entertainer, come and do the thing. And he came

1090
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: like right then and there, Like it wasn't even like

1091
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: we waited. It was like I want to show if

1092
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: we called him and he came the same day or

1093
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 4: if he came to Jay.

1094
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Called him, but I know he came right then. He

1095
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: came right then, like the same day we did the record.

1096
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: That knife was there at the same time, so it

1097
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: was like still within that same session to that record

1098
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: was done that night record, and I.

1099
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: Was I was real specific to ninth about like yo, okay,

1100
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 5: chill until I give you the final listing, because a

1101
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 5: lot of times producers they be like, yo, I submitted

1102
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 5: my beat.

1103
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: They wrote a verse to it. Wow, they did a

1104
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: whole song.

1105
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: Then we get to the last minute and be like, bro,

1106
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, this one got knocked off and you

1107
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: be telling you your whole peoples like in.

1108
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: The city, imagine walking around with Cedric the Entertainer and

1109
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: jay Z on the beat and it don't come out

1110
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: like god, it exists.

1111
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: It existed, so I was I was happy when it

1112
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: did make it. I hit ninth and was like, yo,

1113
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 5: you on it and you know what I mean as

1114
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 5: lawyer hit on that was it was dope. It was

1115
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: really darpe and and that sparked me and Knife's whole relationship.

1116
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: And that's my brother and I've never seen him again.

1117
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: Did Jay ever comment on on fanteol Ever?

1118
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if Jay's ever comment, not that I know.

1119
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: I think he's listening to Little Brother albums, but.

1120
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously he's going to hear from playing it.

1121
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that's the same thing. It's like, But

1122
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's like a dig in to

1123
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: where like the way me and you were talking about Fante,

1124
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: like Fante write my life, like I consider him one

1125
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: of those people that that really right my life.

1126
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1127
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Moment of clarity, hmm.

1128
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: One of my favorite joints on the albums, trying to

1129
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: think when it's not brought up enough, I feel like

1130
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: underrated song on the album.

1131
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if I don't know if it strikes

1132
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: it like this memorable moment because it was like EM's

1133
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: joint and we might.

1134
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: Have just.

1135
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: It's one of the very few Eminem beats that I.

1136
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 5: Like, No, no, no, But I'm saying what I'm saying in

1137
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: terms of like we weren't there for the construction of

1138
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 5: the beat. Jay gets the beat, he does it so fast,

1139
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: and then it's just like, Yo, it's a great record.

1140
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: But I don't know if something like it's it's it's

1141
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 5: different than being monumental of you know, Kanye being there

1142
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: and really producing the encore, Kanye being there really producing Lucifer,

1143
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like that that thing with

1144
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 5: Lucifer was a them back and forth. It was dope

1145
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 5: because it was like Kanye played to beat Jay. It's

1146
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 5: just look he's doing, like, oh my god. This is

1147
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 5: then for him to hit that topic and then the

1148
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 5: things that we was going through with Bob just passing,

1149
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it was just like

1150
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 5: for him to throw that whole situation into the third

1151
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: verse earlier later, you're speeding up two, But do you

1152
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: have no moment of clarity?

1153
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can't. Yeah, I don't remember that record at all.

1154
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was late too, It was definitely late.

1155
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, I'm got a record. I think

1156
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this, you know.

1157
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 4: I mean it was like one of them type of records,

1158
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, we can go right to Lucifer them.

1159
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: Oh, Lucifer Damn. That's a that's a deep one that was.

1160
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: That's one of those records that was so good, kind

1161
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: of like a law that it breaks the rules, you

1162
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1163
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: I think all the rules was out the door by

1164
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: the time that came anyway.

1165
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, it just it just hit like soon as

1166
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: you play it, like soon as you hear it. It's

1167
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 4: exactly how we felt as soon as we heard it,

1168
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean with the whole thing,

1169
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: and it was conceptually like a lot going on, Like

1170
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: he was really in his bag to me on that

1171
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 4: whole album, just as far as like every song had

1172
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: like a real strong concept.

1173
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: He stayed on topic, you know.

1174
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: And he was like had these schemes going on and everything.

1175
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: So it's like that record to me is spooky that

1176
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 4: I remember.

1177
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: It was on what's that show? HBO show Entourage the.

1178
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: End the Entourage, they played it in the credits one

1179
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: time and it went straight to the second verse with

1180
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: Bob and it came on, so if it's an episode

1181
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: when it comes on and it's like right to that,

1182
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 4: and it was like already was tripping because I'm like

1183
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: waking up and hear an entourage loose for an entourage

1184
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: and then it goes right to the verse to where

1185
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: But then later on I read aized that was Scott

1186
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, these school beings, these cool things, so

1187
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: he purposely did it that way for that reason and stuff.

1188
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, like you know, we were still you know,

1189
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: more than my brother at the time, and that verse

1190
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: like said what everybody was really wanted to say.

1191
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: You know.

1192
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 4: So between that and just the least scratch sample and

1193
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 4: you know, yeah drums and just the way the whole

1194
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: song came together, the energy of the I feel like

1195
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: it was real close to Encore. I feel like it

1196
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: was like within that same if not they next.

1197
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, when it was another thing

1198
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: too because Yay was dead.

1199
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 5: But then like one of the things we didn't touch

1200
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 5: upon is like I think during this album was when

1201
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: everybody in the office was just moving on point as

1202
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 5: a complete unit, like as a thing we.

1203
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: Was all your machine. We was definitely a machine at

1204
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: that point.

1205
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 5: Everybody was in the front after he made that, and

1206
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: then as soon as we got done, he lay in

1207
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 5: the verse. He caught everybody in the studio. Everybody's vibing out.

1208
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: That's when you see everybody walking in. It's like, oh,

1209
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: we just made this, you know what I mean? Like

1210
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: it was it was crazy, like the rest of the

1211
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: staff was sort of like the front of Baseline will

1212
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 5: always be to hang out by the pool table, and

1213
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it was like everybody was dead.

1214
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we touched ninety nine problems ps A,

1215
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: justify my thug.

1216
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Again.

1217
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 4: The the DJ Quick sessions. Yeah, yeah, at least like four.

1218
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: I just remember DJ Quick touching every single knob in

1219
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: the studio.

1220
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: Purpose. So he was just purpose. I kept trying to

1221
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: explain it.

1222
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: You know, he touched everything like should we never even

1223
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 4: touched before.

1224
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: He was like, yol, could you could you play this

1225
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: into the arm? It could run through this.

1226
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1227
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: It was like it was the type of ship that

1228
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: stuff that you wouldn't say, I've never heard of.

1229
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: I never heard these type of lingos. It was like

1230
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 4: some stuff he was doing a genius. He was saying,

1231
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: a genius, bro, And that's what I was talking about.

1232
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: He was doing stuff like have a guitar player go

1233
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: into the avalon, but like distorted on purpose, like turning

1234
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: all over.

1235
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 5: He's just like playing around and through. Or he said

1236
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 5: at the MP make the drums. Did he get up,

1237
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: walk to the board and he's tweaking this for twenty

1238
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 5: minutes on justin kicking the snare. Then he come back,

1239
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 5: make me a sound on a twenty eighty, the JP

1240
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: eighty eighty, Like he's he's.

1241
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: One of those. So that's that's what how it's saying,

1242
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: Like he's like a vibe guy. Yes, it was like

1243
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: I remember one time. It wasn't that session, but I

1244
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: know they said he was looking for somebody like he

1245
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 4: was in a session like yo, it's a guy in

1246
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: here with a red shirt with a very bad vibe.

1247
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: He said, I'm trying to find you know me said

1248
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: he's throwing everything off like he's like this is just

1249
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: being that.

1250
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 3: Guy he talking about.

1251
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: He was.

1252
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: It's like that, like he would be like that.

1253
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: He would be like refrigerator is too loud, you know

1254
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1255
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: It's like you're not supposed to have that in.

1256
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 4: Here going into that like the massive in the studio artist,

1257
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: but like as a producer, he's a mastermind in the studio.

1258
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: That's dope.

1259
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: My first song, which is one of my favorite j

1260
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: records ever.

1261
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: My first song, that's Aqua. The beat ye that was.

1262
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: That came through three H three Triple H was managing

1263
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: Aqua at the time. He was trying to sign Ye

1264
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 4: still because wasn't signed. He was the three Triple he

1265
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: was going he was going to sign at the time,

1266
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: and he had his other producer Aqua and yeah, and

1267
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: that beat came like kind of like it was like

1268
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: the last song, like my first song was like the

1269
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 4: last song we did, I believe, but.

1270
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 5: It was a good that that one I do. It

1271
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 5: was like even though that one was sort of like quick.

1272
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: That somewhere else, well right track or something like that.

1273
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, we did it there, we did we

1274
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: did it base.

1275
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 4: We just shared the right track. I don't know why,

1276
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 4: but I feel like we did that right track base.

1277
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: I look at the track sheet, h, I see what

1278
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: I think it was basement.

1279
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but just the fact that said everybody, I mean joint,

1280
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: like like the shout outs.

1281
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, did you in fact not have a seat

1282
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: on your bicycle?

1283
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: I think I'm also telling the story about the seat

1284
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: when the bike. Yeah, what happened was that I was

1285
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: fixing my bike and my friend.

1286
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Called and was like, yo, Jay is over here. Yeah.

1287
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 4: J was at eleven ninety nine, one hunter tenth for

1288
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: First Avenue. I was on nineteenth for lenox As fixing

1289
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: my bike and the seat wasn't.

1290
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 3: On there yet.

1291
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: It's kind of a truth without a seat, So yeah,

1292
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: I just said fuck it.

1293
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: I just got I was like, if I go do this,

1294
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: and I think I might have needed something like I

1295
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: didn't have what I needed, you know what I mean,

1296
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: like that you know that tool or whatever. So I

1297
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: was like, I'm just gonna go. I just did the

1298
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: whole ship standing up. And when he came, when we

1299
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: seen them, it was like, I wasn't it might not

1300
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 4: have been all my bike on bike might have been there,

1301
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1302
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: And he was like good.

1303
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: I was like I was on my bike. He was like,

1304
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 4: you don't see it on your bike and I might

1305
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: not have And I ain't had no pedal neither. I

1306
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: had like no seat and I had one pedal was

1307
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: not was missing, you know what I'm saying.

1308
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: So it was like it was definitely a track.

1309
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: But I had like three bikes and I was used

1310
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 4: to like fix them and ship, so it was just

1311
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 4: like mid fixing, and I was like, I gotta get.

1312
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 3: Over there right now. It's a thing.

1313
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: And if I didn't, I don't know, you know, it

1314
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: might be a different story. But he remembered that bike,

1315
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: so I know I got there on top, don't youself.

1316
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: So it's like it happened, you know.

1317
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: I want to quickly just because it was in the

1318
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: headlines with everything with the drink Champs interview him saying

1319
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: that just Blaze was a copycat in that blue print

1320
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: was his and Justice just been biting people. I did

1321
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: want to ask you all about that because y'all y'all

1322
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: were there.

1323
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: Well, we supposed to gourgle.

1324
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: About that a little bit last night in private, and

1325
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to repeat.

1326
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about it. We can.

1327
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: The Blueprint. I don't know, it's it started way before

1328
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: the Blueprint.

1329
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: Basically, it was just she goes like back to like

1330
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: ghost Face Killer, it's my favorite rapper, and Supreme Clientele

1331
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: was the album that influenced me at that point where

1332
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: it was like I wanted I feel like I staid

1333
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: we wasn't feeling it. It wasn't like a feel was missing,

1334
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: you know, and I thought samples was the only place

1335
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 4: that really came from. So it was like we Yeah,

1336
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: at the time, people was trying not to sample, especially

1337
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: in our camp, like a lot of the beats was

1338
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: no samples. People was trying to figure that out to

1339
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: neptunes and everything Swiss Swiss. So so we was kind

1340
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: of like out of that era as far as mainstream

1341
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 4: hip hop goals. Wu Tang always been Wu Tang underground,

1342
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: always been underground, So that always been there.

1343
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: Just like that's why I.

1344
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: Was so excited about the Little Brother album because it

1345
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: was you know, it was in that pocket. And so

1346
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: with the Blueprint, it was like, you know, let's get samples,

1347
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: let's get samples and when. But that's going into Beans

1348
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: our records because most of the the blueprint, the blueprint

1349
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: is on Beans album. Yeah, you know what I mean,

1350
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 4: the Mom's praying nothing like it, you know what I mean,

1351
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: Like a lot of those records, but it's still a

1352
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 4: few of the non samples in there because of legal

1353
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: places you know what I'm saying, time in and stuff

1354
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: like that. That's why Beings said the whole thing about

1355
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: I never finished my album.

1356
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because we was.

1357
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: Always playing against the time. We always was like having

1358
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: to turn it in and couldn't clear this sample, gotta

1359
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: get it replayed and not like the replay and fuck

1360
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: you gotta go with it. So I'm saying all I

1361
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: have to say that I was kind of going at

1362
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 4: everything sample wise, justin Yay, kind of needed to get

1363
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: deeper into samples.

1364
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: We bought rockets me and just.

1365
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: Bought brought Jay period, all his records, no catalog boxes

1366
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: of records came to Baseline and that's going into the

1367
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: free REALBM you know what I mean.

1368
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: That was like around that time. Yeah.

1369
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Todd Black album going into in the Blueprint

1370
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: dynasty after it was Yeah album. Yeah, So it was

1371
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 4: so that kind of came into play of we were

1372
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: just gonna start sampling a lot more so. Even when

1373
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: Ya gave me the beat, he wasn't giving me the

1374
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: beats for Jay or for the Blueprint. I just gave

1375
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: Jay all of those beats in a way, and then

1376
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: we did those songs in three days. All Kanye records

1377
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: was done in three days. We started on Friday and

1378
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: Monday it.

1379
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: Was all done. Is never changed, Ain't no love and whatever?

1380
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: The Hardest City that's a no.

1381
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 3: Love his hardest city city. It's another one though.

1382
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was those records was done and then

1383
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: from that point on it's.

1384
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: Basically like, oh, this is where we're going, you know

1385
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1386
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: So then just came Girls, Girls, Girls song Cry.

1387
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: That was it.

1388
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: So essentially all just did with his job. Like he

1389
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: didn't bite nobody. He was just saying, all right, this

1390
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: is what we're supposed to be doing right now, let

1391
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: me go make this type of beat.

1392
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: Well we know Kanye is let me just say ship

1393
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: for shock value and you know, ruffle some feathers. I don't,

1394
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: but I love justice response to it.

1395
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 4: But but but we heard that before, like you know

1396
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 4: what I mean, we already no elephant in the room

1397
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: is big dog. You had been going through it with

1398
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: just for a minute, just off of that with Yay.

1399
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: Whole thing is that nobody never asked yay this. Yeah,

1400
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was a weird question

1401
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 4: that just came on the strength of like a flip

1402
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: of a card type of thing. It wasn't like a

1403
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 4: he was thinking about it the whole time, you know

1404
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But it's just more what he's saying

1405
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: was that sonically he's going to keep going and creating

1406
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: new ship to where we'd just do is more production.

1407
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: Technically as a producer, he could do anything that he

1408
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 4: wanted to do at any given to this point.

1409
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you want to do.

1410
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 5: So if you're talking about styles, their sample records, you're

1411
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: talking about all keyboard beats, that's welcome to New York City.

1412
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 5: If you're talking about you know, whatever style you want

1413
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 5: to talk about.

1414
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: Three but whatever, you know what I'm saying, it's like,

1415
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1416
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 4: The first time when I first introduced to Jess, it

1417
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 4: was they basically was like, yo, I got this dude.

1418
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: He make beasts like Swiss and then of course ten grand.

1419
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: And that's what he did. Who the fuck want what?

1420
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 4: So it was like, okay, we could do those. But

1421
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: then I started hearing the other stuff. I'm like, what

1422
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: did you do all that type of stuff too? You know,

1423
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought that was a sound, but then

1424
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: it was like I did this for pont I did

1425
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: this for he did and I was like, okay, so sample,

1426
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 4: you just need to get some records. And that's where

1427
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: it kind of came from. So that whole sound was

1428
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: like we was looking for a sound it.

1429
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 3: Sounds to move to Hop.

1430
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 5: It was like it was like if he was in

1431
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: a cutting room working on Harlem World, is going to

1432
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 5: sound like that the same way. I've known Yay way

1433
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 5: before Rockefeller, right, so I know ya from being with

1434
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 5: Dida and when he was being before Hoping, you know

1435
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like all that Yay was sounding like

1436
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 5: he wanted to be you know. I mean it was

1437
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: a mixture between like Jermaine. He even said it on

1438
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 5: a drink champions a mix between Jermaine dupri and the Hitman.

1439
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 5: Everybody evolved, everybody, but it's like again just was doing

1440
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: his son.

1441
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah pretty much. Yeah.

1442
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: I just wanted y'all clear it up because y'all were

1443
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: actually there.

1444
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know again, everybody see history how they see

1445
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: it From what I saw to me, Hop set the

1446
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: vibe by asking for a certain type of thing, and

1447
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 5: everybody came through what they came through. Everybody made their

1448
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 5: phone calls. Hop calls big afterwards you know what I'm saying,

1449
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: and be like, yo, like you got to be a

1450
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 5: part of this boom boom, Like that's what I had.

1451
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 4: Bank He hit me like, I was like, Yo, we're

1452
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: doing the album. We got like six seven songs and

1453
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: it's it's all samples. So he was like, oh for

1454
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: real and he played me Mama Loved Me on the phone.

1455
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: I remember I was twenty second in Linux Avenue, you know,

1456
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: right by with that. But dans I was like, you

1457
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I remember it like I remember

1458
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 4: hearing it and being like, oh, yes, that's definitely And

1459
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 4: then he came Baseline that night we did that record,

1460
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 4: and then he ended.

1461
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 3: Up playing Rulers back. Yeah, was back as well.

1462
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: So by the time this is like the still extending

1463
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 4: up that first week, so just might do his records

1464
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 4: on Tuesday.

1465
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: Bink did his records like on Wednesday and Thursday.

1466
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 4: So by the end of the week we got like

1467
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 4: ten records and we're just going around playing it.

1468
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 3: The album is done.

1469
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 5: Besides the then we did the other stuff, the Eminem record,

1470
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 5: the track Masters regular record. But I remember every day

1471
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 5: playing almost a whole album every day straight through every day.

1472
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 5: We just keep playing and playing and playing over and.

1473
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Over, so everyone's just a copycat to Hop them.

1474
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 3: For sure.

1475
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. I don't feel anything else,

1476
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: but I think that I.

1477
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: Just want to thank Hop and Gurule Man just for

1478
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: being who y'all are, man, Like I had. I had

1479
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: the pleasure of being around y'all for years. Obviously that's bro,

1480
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: but just seeing y'all on baseline man, and being being

1481
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: able to just you know, get a peek on history

1482
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: in which I was doing, Like because I was around

1483
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 2: and in it, I didn't really understand it. But now

1484
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: looking back, it's like I was so privileged to be

1485
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: in that position to be around men like y'all that

1486
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: loved what y'all we're doing and passionate and so intelligent

1487
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: and just like creators of the culture and curators of

1488
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: the culture and doing what y'all doing.

1489
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1490
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: So I just we just want to thank y'all for

1491
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: sitting down with us. We appreciate y'all.

1492
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: We love y'all, man, And yeah, you know, y'all made history,

1493
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: but don't live in it both y'all do.

1494
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: I'll alum together because we just finished, we just turned

1495
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: in the album.

1496
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 3: We gotta turn it in. Say the name, Yeah, we

1497
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: gotta turn it in. The mally still do the same thing.

1498
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: We had something that didn't clear, and I'm like the

1499
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 5: first thing when I see how, I'm like, yo, I

1500
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: got an idea for what we could do for the Skip.

1501
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: The Ogs to do it correct and actually go to

1502
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: the younger generation and really work with him rather than

1503
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: be like, yo, this is what I did. Don't talk

1504
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: to me, but again, appreciate y'all.

1505
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: Thank you. Black album could drink now, no worry. Eno