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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,

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Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge getting from one full episode of

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Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt,

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Speaker 1: our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth,

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Speaker 1: to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this week's full episode subject Nikki six, Part

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Speaker 1: two of our Motley Crusaga. We're rewinding back to our

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Speaker 1: Pink Floyd episode, previewing our upcoming episode on Waylon Jennings,

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Speaker 1: and we get into your voice, smells, text, DMS, and

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Speaker 1: as always a whole lot of rosie. This is the

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Speaker 1: podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers

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Speaker 1: who know that the best history is the history that

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Speaker 1: gets buried. Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories

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Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you end up telling

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Speaker 1: to someone else. All right, disc goes, Let's get into it. Oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: when I'm running a disgrace Land episode, I'm not only

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Speaker 1: you guys look like. Now. I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: we have in the chat, and of course I get

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Speaker 1: What connects you isn't how you look, of course, whether

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Speaker 1: that's similar or dissimilar. What connects you is your curiosity. You,

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Speaker 1: like me, are obsessed. I've been thinking about this a

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Speaker 1: lot lately. Obsessed with music, Obsessed with great storytelling, Obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the truth, because the truth is far more interesting

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Speaker 1: discouraging for me. Okay, there's so much more to these

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Speaker 1: music history stories. You saw Gimme Shelter, You've seen twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour party people. You know what great music storytelling is.

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Speaker 1: You are cooler than your average basic music listener. You

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Speaker 1: know that most of the stories about the musicians you love,

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Speaker 1: the myth is way more entertaining than what they're giving us.

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Speaker 1: These motherfuckers are everywhere too. Okay, the corporate algorithmic studio

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Speaker 1: wrote creator in AI storytelling. Yes, mister YouTube, I like music, sure,

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Speaker 1: but I don't need seventeen different avatars trying to explain

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Speaker 1: Oh you see me. You say you want to offer

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Speaker 1: they blow it. These days, Chaos on Netflix was a

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Speaker 1: massive disappointment. Now, I don't blame Errol Mars or Tom O'Neil.

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Speaker 1: I can tell that the doc was noted to death

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Speaker 1: but the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, this blob that

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Speaker 1: all right, c ASSM again, Corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machines

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Speaker 1: Because because of you, guys, I know there are hundreds

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Speaker 1: enough to know that the truth is more interesting than

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Speaker 1: the chasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine is the problem,

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Speaker 1: not me, and that the solution is well better stories

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Speaker 1: for music history. Anyways. In this case, the stories we

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Speaker 1: Despite my opening rant here, I'm not cynical, Okay. I

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Speaker 1: It's not nostalgia we crave. It's the type of connection

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Speaker 1: This type of connection is like mainlining, a type of

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Speaker 1: It's like a shot of good Berman after a big

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Speaker 1: Whitaker book. Hogan's book, on the other hand, straight seventies

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Speaker 1: you're interested now what I'm listening to, you'll never believe it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm listening to Jimmy Buffett. What the hell happened

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Speaker 1: to your slightly edgy smartess gen X Disgray sand Host

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Speaker 1: You asked, Well, like you guys, I got curious. Now,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely love the show Man. Regarding the hair metal question, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that come through with his career. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he would have been a history teacher. That seems

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Speaker 1: like a stretch. Maybe that's just something he said, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. What do I know? You met him,

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Speaker 1: I didn't meet him. As for Tom mcgaane, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of I'm kind of more impressed that you met Tom

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Speaker 1: mcgwaine than I am. You met Jimmy Buffett. That's that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: And yes I did know about him being Jimmy's brother

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Speaker 1: in law, and did I even knew about Margot Kidder,

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Speaker 1: but I did not know that until I researched Jimmy Buffett.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for the call, appreciate it. Hope you dig.

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Speaker 1: The Buffett episode coming up soon will not be what

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Speaker 1: you expect, won't be with any of you guys expect.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's check out the five one two Jay.

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Speaker 3: It's throw in the five one two Austin, Texas. Pay

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Speaker 3: first a shout out to all my neighbors who are

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Speaker 3: digging out. It's been a rough couple of weeks, so

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Speaker 3: some love to them. Just got done listening to your

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Speaker 3: Guns n' Roses episodes fantastic as always, wondering if you've

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Speaker 3: read Duff mccagan's memoir. It's so easy. It's not definitely

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Speaker 3: recommend yet. I read a lot of memoirs rock and

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Speaker 3: roll musicians, and his heads and shoulders above the rest.

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Speaker 3: It's not your typical typical read, smart, inspiring, well written.

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Speaker 3: I do you recommend Duff mccagan, It's so easy. Keep

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Speaker 3: up the good work.

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Speaker 1: Love your pod five one two. Yes, I been praying

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Speaker 1: for all you folks in Texas, hoping that you get

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Speaker 1: some relief, those of you who were affected from the storm,

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Speaker 1: your neighbors down there, five one two. As for Duff

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Speaker 1: mccagan's memoir, I have not read it. I believe it

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Speaker 1: came out after I researched the Guns n' Roses episode.

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Speaker 1: But I've always known Duf mccagen to be a smart,

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Speaker 1: smart dude, one of the smurterer rock and rollers, so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that his memoir is great. As

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Speaker 1: you say last time, I went to south By Southwest.

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Speaker 1: Not the last time I went to Austin, but the

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Speaker 1: last time I went to south By Southwest. It's with

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Speaker 1: Podega Girls, my band at the time, and we were

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Speaker 1: we were eating at a nice restaurant, not something we

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Speaker 1: did often, and Duff was in there at a table

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of people. It's a really nice place,

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Speaker 1: and he was just so fucking cool looking. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know those guys who are just older and cool looking,

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Speaker 1: and you're just like, damn, man, how do you do it?

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Speaker 1: How do you maintain that glow? Dude, that rock and

469
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Speaker 1: roll glow? And you don't get that rock and roll stink?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's tough for old guys,

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Speaker 1: old rock and rollers, but he's pulling it off. Six

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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three. You guys,

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Speaker 1: want to hit me up on anything under the music history, son,

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Speaker 1: you can do so. Let's see. Let's see this text

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Speaker 1: from the four one two. Hey Jake, my name is Tom.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the best disco sometimes takes me a few

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Speaker 1: weeks to listen, but I'm all caught up. The greatest

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Speaker 1: hair metal band. Well, you can't Deny Motley Crue got

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Speaker 1: into them early and eventually led me to harder thrash

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Speaker 1: metal and punk. But I did have a hairband era

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Speaker 1: and one of my favorites was Slash is do O.

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Ronnie. I always appreciate your listeners' suggestions.

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Speaker 1: Someone recommended Fanny after the Go Gos episode and they

484
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Speaker 1: were really good. Yeah that's right, Fanny forgot about them.

485
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Matt Bowden his head almost exploded when he found out

486
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Speaker 1: that I'd never heard them before, and that came from

487
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Speaker 1: you guys at disco. So thank you. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you guys know where the good shit is. Motley Crue

489
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Speaker 1: was a gateway drug to other thrash medal. I never

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Speaker 1: thought of it that way, but yeah, I can see

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Speaker 1: how that would happen for you. Dio, what a voice. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I work out to Rainbow in the Dark at least

493
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Speaker 1: once a week, so good. Also, Dio, New Hampshire Boy,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the text. Four one two Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the three to four. Texan simply put Nebraska better than

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Speaker 1: Blonde on Blonde, whoa whoa easy there CoA cheese, both masterpieces.

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Speaker 1: But come on, you know, did I say that Nebraska

498
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Speaker 1: was better than blonde on blonde. I think I did,

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Speaker 1: and I think I stand by that. And I read

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Speaker 1: this text just because he called me coachees and I

501
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Speaker 1: really think that's cool, and I wanted to get it

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Speaker 1: out on the record. Okay, let's go to the nines

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Speaker 1: nine seven two texting in I beg you three exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: Please please do an episode or two on the SoCal

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Speaker 1: band anywise, you could do several, just on the lead

506
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Speaker 1: guitarist Fletcher alone in their original Bassis Jason Matthew Thursk

507
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: died by accidental gunshot. Fletcher took Adam Carolla hostage live

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Speaker 1: on the air in Los Angeles. One what seriously? How

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Speaker 1: do I not know that story?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: You got it? Penny Wise episode coming up? I love it?

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Speaker 1: Great text six one seven nine oh six six six

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Speaker 1: three eight. You want to hit me up with this

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Speaker 1: week's question of the week, which let me see if

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Speaker 1: I can remember. It's gonna be about Waylon Jennings, Yes,

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Speaker 1: CS yes. In the question of the week is who

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Speaker 1: among the country singers was the most punk? Okay, was

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Speaker 1: it Whalen? I don't know? Six one seven nine sixty

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Speaker 1: six sixty three eight you tell me voicemail and text.

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Speaker 1: Also email discrismanpot at gmail dot com. Peter R. Chaki,

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Speaker 1: I'm most certainly pronouncing that incorrectly, and I apologize.

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Speaker 3: Peter.

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Speaker 1: Subject David Johansson, thanks for the episode eulogizing the great

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Speaker 1: David Johansson. The Dolls are tremendously underrated. They were the

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Speaker 1: first American glam band, the first punk band, the first

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Speaker 1: hair band to pave the way for the Ramones, Kiss, Poison,

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Speaker 1: Motley Crue, and on and on. Influential and important in

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Speaker 1: many ways. How they are not in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame is a travesty. I especially liked your description of

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Speaker 1: Johansson as being symbolic of New York City. He was

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Speaker 1: the epitome of New York in the seventies. He will

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Speaker 1: be missed. I know this comment is a little late,

533
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Speaker 1: but I wanted you to know the episode on him

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Speaker 1: was greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work, as I

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Speaker 1: enjoy both Disgraceland and Hollywood Lamb. Peter, thanks so much.

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Happy hit you with that one. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 1: kind of said it all they I did. You're absolutely right, Ramones, Kiss, Poison,

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00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Motley Crue, none of them would exist without the New

539
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: York Dolls, how many of them are in the Rock

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Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Ramones are pretty sure kiss

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Speaker 1: Is is Motley Crue. I don't think Moty Cruez is

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00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Motley Crue. They probably are poisons. Not so New York

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Speaker 1: Dolls influences. Let's just say three out of four of

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Speaker 1: these bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Yet they're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

546
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: And it's not like they just like kind of influenced

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Speaker 1: these bands. I mean, Gene Simmons basically stole his the

548
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: whole fucking thing from New York Dolls Motley Crue as well.

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00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to the part one episode we just

550
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Speaker 1: released direct influence on Nikki six and the Ramones forget

551
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Speaker 1: about it all right, so great, great email. Appreciate you, Peter,

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00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: thank you. I'll have more in the New York Dolls

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Speaker 1: later when we get into the vault. If you guys

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Speaker 1: get something to say, don't sit on it, okay, hit

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Speaker 1: me up, hit me up like hit me up like

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Speaker 1: the rest of the callers the rest of the text

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Speaker 1: your voices. They prompt me to dig, They prompt me

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Speaker 1: to try and uncover these stories that we've been talking

559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: about get buried the real stories. Okay. Sometimes there's stories

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Speaker 1: I'm not even aware of. I'm not even aware that

561
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: they're out there, okay. And sometimes they use our stories

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00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: with narratives that are just too convenient, too to sanitized,

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00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: to biopickish, you know, not nearly as interesting and entertaining

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Speaker 1: as the truth. And I love it when you guys

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Speaker 1: call and you point me in the right direction, So

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, and keep them coming. Listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm in it mainly for the old school fashion, sure,

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Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, the big hats and the knickers

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Speaker 1: and all that. No, but I gotta say I get

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Speaker 1: for my rant. Give me the countdown. All right, Red

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Speaker 1: Sox listen, Boston Red Sox must have been listening to

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Speaker 1: the after Party last week because they took my advice

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Speaker 1: and they did what I said. They went and they

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Speaker 1: became more interesting. What did they do? They went on

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Speaker 1: a tear. Okay, it's up to ten games out, ten

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Speaker 1: wins before the All Star break, ten straight, I should

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Speaker 1: underperforming play for the basement of the Al East. They

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Speaker 1: got rid of Rappie Devers just like I said they should,

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Speaker 1: and now they need to keep it up. After the

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Speaker 1: All Star break. They got to nab another starter before

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Speaker 1: the deadline and put the Yanks in the rear view

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Speaker 1: where they belong. Let's go, oh, Boston. Don't sleep on

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Speaker 1: this advice, Brezlo. You know I'm right, just like I

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Speaker 1: was right about Devers. Shitty clubhouse guys aren't worth it.

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Speaker 1: Good pitching beats, good hitting all day long. Go get

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Speaker 1: us a stud before the deadline? All right, Matt, how'd

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Speaker 1: I do that? Beat it?

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Speaker 2: Jake?

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Speaker 4: I got to give you credit for consistency, Just like

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Speaker 4: the Red Sox. You're on a streak here. It's two

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Speaker 4: weeks in a row forty seven seconds, so you know

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Speaker 1: little pick me up. So I'm take a break. I'm

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Speaker 1: It is mid afternoon, the sun is shining. I might

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Speaker 1: not be on a golf course, guys, but I'm here

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Speaker 1: and I am definitely hitting under power in this episode.

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Speaker 1: All right, and so are you guys. Take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash. All right, guys, we

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Speaker 1: are back here in the after party. It is hot

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Speaker 1: as blazes in my studio today. It's because I got

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Speaker 1: these lights on. I gotta shut them off. It gets

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Speaker 1: hot in here in the studio. I record in two

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Speaker 1: different spots. I record at my desk like I'm doing

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Speaker 1: right now. For the after Party. For the full episodes,

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Speaker 1: I record in a booth, in a whisper room booth,

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty tight quarters and it's completely soundproof,

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Speaker 1: and it gets really really hot in there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna share a little bit here for you. So

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Speaker 1: this was about, I don't know, two weeks ago. I

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Speaker 1: was recording. It's a really really really really hot day.

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Speaker 1: And the more I went into the booth and the

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Speaker 1: more I came out to sort of like get a

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Speaker 1: water in between takes and go back, and I dropped

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Speaker 1: some clothing, is what I'm saying. Okay, and I got

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Speaker 1: down to near nothing by the end of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: It took me, like you know, it takes me like

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes or forty minutes to record these things really

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Speaker 1: hot again, really hot. And my son walks in the

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Speaker 1: room and he's he's like, why, what's happening. This is

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Speaker 1: my seven year old son. And I explained to him,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, not a big deal whatever.

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Speaker 1: And fast forward to a week later, we're at a

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Speaker 1: dinner party, family dinner party, catered by a chef, and

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Speaker 1: we're at these people's house, this house of this of

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Speaker 1: this couple that we did not know. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just me and my wife and my kids. It's me,

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Speaker 1: my wife, my kids, and and my in laws, and

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Speaker 1: it's this family and there their children who are a

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Speaker 1: college and high school age and one adult. So there's

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Speaker 1: about twelve of us all sitting at this one table.

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Speaker 1: And it's a great meal, a course meal, and very

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Speaker 1: much you know, signed seating, like the whole thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: And we've never met any of these folks before. They

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Speaker 1: were friends of my father in laws, and I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: my sons are killing it. You know, they're making conversation.

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Speaker 1: And this is the type of thing where like it's

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Speaker 1: one of those dinner parties where we were sitting at

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Speaker 1: a big round table and for the most part, you know,

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Speaker 1: one person was speaking at a time. There wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of sort of side conversations going on. There was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't so uptight that it was just like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: but for the most for a good portion of it,

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Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, one person would talk.

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Speaker 1: It was very it was very conversational, but it was

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Speaker 1: also very formal, is my point. And I was so

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Speaker 1: proud of my sons, both of them, you know, so proud,

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Speaker 1: like like they're eating you know, turtle soup and they're

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Speaker 1: eating they're eating stuff that like they never would would

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Speaker 1: would eat, you know, crab cakes they never eat. If

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Speaker 1: I try to get any of they're just they're really

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Speaker 1: trying their best and they're trying to make conversation. Again

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Speaker 1: eleven and seven years old, and uh, you know my

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Speaker 1: oldest you know, he brings up the fact that you know,

703
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: they cloned a dire wolf. It was very interesting point

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Speaker 1: and a really great conversational point. For this dinner and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more proud of him. And then

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Speaker 1: my youngest, my seven year old, he takes the cue

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Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, I got to say something interesting.

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Speaker 1: And this is after, you know, this is after we

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Speaker 1: did the whole you know, what do you do for

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Speaker 1: a living? Blah blah blah blah, and uh, William goes

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00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: dead quiet, dead quiet point in the conversation, goes my

712
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: dad records this podcast naked, and like total fucking church

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Speaker 1: for art. Everybody stops talking except our family, who just

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Speaker 1: bursts out laughing. The other our family is not laughing

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Speaker 1: at all. They've never met us before. They think like,

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Speaker 1: I'm some psychopath. Just yeah, one of those moments. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to share that with you. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I just did. I feel, you know, I can't anyhow,

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, and that happened. Here we go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing the hollywood Land Minute this week

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Speaker 1: on the Hollywood Land Show. Over in the Hollywood Land Feed,

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Speaker 1: we get into the iconic Marlon Brando. And if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear a Marlon Brando story that you likely

724
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Speaker 1: have never heard before, then you must go to the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Land Feed and subscribe and follow and listen and

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Speaker 1: if you want more conversation like this one that I'm

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00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: giving you right here, but with a little more back

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: and forth, a little more conversational. Me and my guys

729
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: Zeth are over in the Hollywood Land Feed every week

730
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: in the Rap Party, doing our thing, and we get

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Speaker 1: into some great music recommendations, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: highlights of my week, if I'm being honest, Matt, want

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Speaker 1: you to go ahead, play these guys a clip. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Marlon Brando made me think of Marlon Jackson, brother of Tito, Jackie, Jermaine,

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Speaker 1: and Michael, the five in the Jackson Five. Now, Marlon

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Speaker 1: Jackson has a long I don't want to say illustrious,

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Speaker 1: but he does have a career in music. And I

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Speaker 1: am recommending none of that. However, at one point, at

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Speaker 1: one point, I believe in nineteen eighty three, Marlon Jackson

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Speaker 1: produced an album by soul singer Betty Right. Betty Right

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Speaker 1: is incredible, the album that Marlon Jackson produced. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's incredible. I've never heard it, but I

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Speaker 1: have heard I Love the Way You Love from nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy two by Betty right, and it features the excellent

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Speaker 1: song Cleanup Woman. Okay, so Marlon Brando got me, Marlon

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Speaker 1: Jackson got me, Betty Right gets the listener's clean Up

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Speaker 1: Woman as the song for my recommendation this week. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard Cleanup Woman?

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Speaker 5: By the way, yes, I've heard clean that. There was,

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Speaker 5: and there was a great compilation. I think Rhino put

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Speaker 5: out Rhino or somebody back on like the early two thousands.

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Speaker 5: There were like three lesser known soul R and B

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Speaker 5: female singers, Canny Satan, Betty Wright, and there was a

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Speaker 5: third and they put out these incredible compilation albums. And

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Speaker 5: that's where I first heard about Betty Right.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, that is Hollywood Land. That's a Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and true crime podcast that we got going on. You

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Speaker 1: want to check that out, you want to subscribe, get

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Speaker 1: over there and do so today before we run out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about. All right, listen,

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Speaker 1: five Bucks. I went through this earlier. Five Bucks is

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Speaker 1: going to get your access to not just add free

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Speaker 1: listening here in Disgraceland and hollywood Land. Five Bucks isn't

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Speaker 1: just going to get you that. It's not going to

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Speaker 1: just get you that. Plus an extra episode of Disgraceland.

766
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Speaker 1: It's also going to get you more of this here

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Speaker 1: bonus episode and this week in particular, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: want to miss out because I'm going to give you

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Speaker 1: three stories about Nikki six that were just two off

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Speaker 1: the fucking charts for the full episode for the wide feed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's coming up. Go to this grace lampod dot

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Speaker 1: com slash membership. Become a Disgrace lam member today. All right,

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Speaker 1: we are back. Let's dip in quickly to some of

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Speaker 1: the subjects that we mentioned on this show that haven't

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Speaker 1: featured in Disgracelam before. Jeff Buckley. We talked about Jeff

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00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Buckley earlier in the B block, and we have an

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Speaker 1: episode on Jeff Buckley. And if you want to hear

778
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: about Jeff Buckley's incredible, diverse group of influences and you

779
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: want to hear more about how he died sadly, then

780
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: you got to check this episode out. It's a heartbreaker

781
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll be a good primer to the

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00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: doc that is coming out. I believe in August is

783
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: when the documentaries released, we mentioned the New York Dolls,

784
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Speaker 1: and in that New York Dolls episode we get into

785
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: hot it's kind of the opposite of the Jeff Buckley

786
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: when we get into if you want to hear about

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Speaker 1: how they influence Kiss, how they influence the remote owns.

788
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear how the caller said David

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Speaker 1: Johansson was sort of the embodiment of New York City.

790
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: And do you want to hear about the arrest and

791
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Speaker 1: some all around you know, rock and roll violence, then

792
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: you know that New York Dolls episode is waiting for you.

793
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: We mentioned Bob Dylan, and if you just got a

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00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: hanker in for some Dylan, you want to know why

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00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: or why not he may or may not have been

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Speaker 1: involved with the whole Watergate scandal back in the early

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Speaker 1: seventies with Nixon and all. Then Hey, Bob Dylan Part

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Speaker 1: two it waits. We also got Bob Dylan Part one,

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Speaker 1: and that one's going to disrupt the myth of the

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Speaker 1: motorcycle accident and give you the lowdown on what we

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00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: think actually happened. Matt will have the information, as he

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Speaker 1: does every week on these episodes, in the show notes

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Speaker 1: of this bonus episode. He'll make it easier for you

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Speaker 1: to find Jeff Buckley New York Dolls, Bob Dylan. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's recap Shallow We Number one, this week's full episode

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Speaker 1: on Nikki six is available for you right now. Go

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Speaker 1: check that out. Number two. We are rewinding this week

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Speaker 1: with Pink Floyd. Number three up next week, Waylon Jennings.

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Speaker 1: That's right, number four over in the Hollywoodland fet go

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Speaker 1: check out that Merlon Brandow episode. Check out the Rap

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Speaker 1: Party with Me and Zeth number five six one seven

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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Voicemail and text

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Speaker 1: DM me at s Grace Lampod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook

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Speaker 1: x Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com to email me

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Speaker 1: your voices, help me uncover what gets buried. Your takes.

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00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: They propel me into the dark corners of music history.

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Speaker 1: So keep them coming. Dig baby dig, all right, dig

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Speaker 1: baby dig Now that the night is over. Yes, Michael Hutchins,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Number six. Do not forget disc goes. This

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Speaker 1: isn't just content, it's community, a community of the obsessed.

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Speaker 1: No one cares about music, books, records and the crime

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Speaker 1: and grime that ties it all together like you do.

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Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. December twenty third,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, the date of Nikki six's first death.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Sort of? Kind of, not really,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Here's what we were listening to in

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Speaker 1: America on December twenty third, nineteen eighty seven. From the

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Speaker 1: Billboard Charts. Number one Faith George Michael last week one,

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Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on chart ten. Number two So

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Speaker 1: Emotional last week three, peak position two weeks on chart.

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Speaker 1: They're nine Harrison. Number three is this Love You? White

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Speaker 1: Snake last week last to peak position for weeks on six.

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Speaker 1: Number four, Got My Mind set on You week George Harrison,

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Speaker 1: last week you peak position four weeks on chart to ten.

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Speaker 1: Number five Shake Your Love Desision last week peak positions

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Speaker 1: on show. Quit talking and start mixing.