1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well, buckle up, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: This is I Want your Flex with Dan Bayer and 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: to set your lineups, from position rankings. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: To starts and sits. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: let's get your flex. Od here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Welcome too. I want your Flex. He is Mike Harmon, 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: but he's not here right now. You can find Mike 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: at Swollen Dom, you can find me at Dan Byer 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: on Fox, and you can find our executive producer, Ian 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Roddy at Ian Roddy Underscore. Ian is with me. It 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: is a midweek edition in Son of California. We've been 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: battered with rain schedules here and there and trying to navigate. 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: So it's going to be Ian Roddy and myself for 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: the next ten minutes and then Ian and Mike and 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: hit it up, give a little Thursday night preview and 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: whatnot after that. But the reason also for this I 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: guess special midweek episode if you will, is every weekend 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I want your flex. I give a survivor pick. I 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: give it points to Paloosa as well. Ied you've got 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the streaming defenses. But the survivor pick is one that's 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: outside the realm of what we normally do for fantasy football. 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Mike's got his rankings, He's got the hot plays, the 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: cold soares sid starts, if you will, the whole shebang 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: on how you would fill out your lineup. But the 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: reason that I chose to do a survivor pick is 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: number one. Mike's information on players is unmatched. So we 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: are not going to challenge Mike and his rankings and 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: his hot plays and his cold soars for any other 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: reason except Mike knows what he's talking about. I feel 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Ian and myself do as well. But Mike has done 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: this for decades. That is his that is his avenue. 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: So if I can carve out a little layane of 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: some fun and why we have fantasy, or how you 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: can have fun during a football season in a different 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: form of fantasy or just in a different way, it's 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: good to do that as well. And that's what survivor 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: pools have provided for me. Do you play any survivor pools? 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Ian have you been in any and any sport whatsoever. 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: No, I never have, never have I didn't. I'm I'm interested. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: They have been. They have been going on for years 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: and years and years, and there's different ways to do it, 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: and there's different forms to do it. The survivor pool 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that hooked me, and I had done NFL previous years, 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: but the NFL wasn't the ultimate survivor hook for me. 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Circa's got their enormous, enormous survivor pool with you know, 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: millions of dollars up for grabs that so many people 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: talk about and will follow throughout the year. What hooked 52 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: me was an NCAA tournament survivor pool. Okay, And for 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: those that are wondering, if you are wondering what a 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: survivor pool is, it's essentially, you pick one team each 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: week of the NFL season and if they win, you 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: move on to the next week, but you can't use 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: that team again. If you lose, you're done. There is 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: a finality to it that is so appealing ian yet 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: so scary. But like in fantasy when you're watching the 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: game and maybe you're up eight points heading into Monday 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: night football and the other player that you've got has 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: got one of the players, Well, you're watching the game 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that player doesn't have eight points, or 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: if there's a rival maybe in your division if you 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: have divisions in fantasy, you're watching those other games because 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: you don't want that player to win the game. So 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: you have an interest in what Monday night football is 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: even if your teams aren't playing. Survivor provides that as well, 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: because you can see who everybody else picked, and when 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: there's a team that is picked by a bunch of 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: players that is on the ropes are losing, there is 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: nothing better, and there's just something to be There's something 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: for being so simple if you know what I'm talking about, huh, 74 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: and providing so much fun. That is just so appealing 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to me because it sounds so easy. Maybe it's kind 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: of golf. Maybe I like golf and that's the reason why. 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: But golf, it's all just Paul is sitting there, go 78 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and hit it, and is anything but that. But that's 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of like my start in Survivor pools is I 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: got addicted not by the NFL, but by March Madness 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Survivor pools where you pick a team and if they 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: move on to the next round. That's great, and you 83 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: can't use that team again. But what that did is 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: it just provided me this whole new view on it 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: because there were so many different things that you had 86 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: to look at in a March Madness pool. If you 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: took say a Duke team, and you took them like 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: the first Thursday, well what about if Duke runs all 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the way to the national championship and you've already picked them, Well, 90 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: then you're out of the pool. So it took strategy. 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: So it was that's what opened my eyes to survivor pools. 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Was actually nothing done by the NFL. It was done 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: because of college basketball. Yeah. 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: So once you've picked a team, if I'm understanding it correctly, 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: you can't pick them again for the rest of the season, correct. 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I get, I get that there's 97 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: some some strategy to that, because it's like, Okay, you 98 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: don't want to pick the team if we're talking NFL, 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 3: you don't want to pick the team that you see, 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: you know, winning a lot of games late in the season, 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: because you want to be able to save them for 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: when they have Like you got to look at the 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: entire schedule of a team to make like to pick. 104 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: At what point in the season you want to say, like, 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: this is this this is the week that I'm absolutely 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: certain they're going to win. 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Yes, And then you have to think, all right, if 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick, and let's just use the Eagles 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: and Titans because that was last year's Super Bowl champ 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: and the worst team in the NFL. If Eagles Titans 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: were playing Week one, you'd be like, well, Eagles are, 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: what a fifteen point favorite? So I'll just take the Eagles. 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: But to that point of you don't want to use 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles just on that one. However, it's finding the 115 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: matchups within the matchups that make it interesting. And last 116 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: year in the National Football League we talk about this 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: year off. Yeah, you just don't know anything. Last year 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: there was so much carnage in the first three weeks 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: of the season of team's favorites being upset that I 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: know many a survivor pool that started over after three 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: weeks didn't yours. 122 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: I kind of remember that, didn't you guys. 123 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: Get a reset? I got knocked out of a pool, 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: and I remember it. It was the Jaden Daniels Commanders 125 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Monday night game when the Commanders didn't punt, and honestly, 126 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: I think it was the Jaden Daniels really like coming 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: out party. They had lost in Week one to the Buccaneers, 128 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: which I had picked against the Commanders, like rookie quarterback, 129 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: you're going up against a tough Bucks defense. See. I 130 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: even remember my survivor picked from Week one of last 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: year and why I thought it out. But then you're thinking, Okay, 132 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: well the Commanders are bad. Bengals should be. Bengals are 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a pretty good team, but I don't know if they're 134 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to win a super Bowl because 135 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: of the defense. Anyway, I got knocked out, and that 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: because and I was the only one. Is the point 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: of it is there was so much carnage not only 138 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: from that game, but from what happened in week one 139 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: of the season and what happened in Week two that 140 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: the survivor pools ended up starting over. But there's just 141 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: this there's this fine line, and the reason why I 142 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it here is because there's also 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the ebbs and flows of the season. In weeks one 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: and two. You wouldn't dare take the Green Bay Packers 145 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: right because look at how dominating Green Bay looks. 146 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: But now it's looking like you should have correct. 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I haven't used the Packers yet. I have no idea 148 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: when in the world I'm going. 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: To actually terrified to use them at this point in season. 150 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: And that's the other point of this. When you're looking 151 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: at matchups, you can talk yourself into or out of 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: anything because it's just just pick one and don't get 153 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: it wrong. And that's what I just find so appealing 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: and so fun with it. And I give you a 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: pick each week, and I'm not gonna be able to 156 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: sit there and say, all right, I'm giving you the 157 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Eagles here in week twelve, because you probably have used 158 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles up. You've probably probably used the Colts up 159 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: at this point. But the Colts are interesting just for 160 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: the fact of we didn't expect them to be a 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: great team and now they're a greater team than we are. 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm in a survivor pool that's got about ninety some 163 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: people left, and only six people still have the Colts 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: because people thought, well, the Colts are good. They're good 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: enough to beat that team, but they're not good enough 166 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: that I don't want to save them along the way. 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: So those are all the ebbs and flows of survivor pools. 168 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because I feel like with the Colts 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: in particular, they must have just kind of thrown a 170 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: wrench into a lot of people's season long plans because 171 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: they'd be a team that going into the year you 172 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: would think like, okay, I would have that circled for 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, if there's a really good team playing them 174 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: late in the year, you're like, going into this season, 175 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yeah, I have that circle. That's when 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to play that. I wish I had a 177 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: specific matchup, but like, if the Chiefs are playing the 178 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Colts going into the year, you're like, yes, Chiefs versus Colts, 179 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: that's an automatic win for the Chiefs. Now, we don't 180 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: know anything like that's not Take the Colts. 181 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: And that's a perfect matchup because they play in Week twelve. 182 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: Coming out there, you go, yeah, there, you would look. 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: You would think, and what I looked at, and it's 184 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I took the Chiefs in a survivor pool. To that point, 185 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: Ian I took the Chiefs in a survivor pool in 186 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Week three when they were oher and two and at 187 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: New York. I said, there's no other Chiefs are going 188 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: to own three. Yeah, but honestly, if the Chiefs aren't 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: are this bad or aren't as good as they were previously, 190 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: because they were zero and two at that time. I 191 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: looked at their schedule and I said, so, this is 192 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: two weeks in and this is just after the Colts 193 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: escaped against the Broncos because of that penalty on the 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: field goal. So we really didn't The Colts had beat 195 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Miami in week one, and what's the big deal. We 196 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't think Miami was good at all. I looked at 197 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: the schedule, to your point and thought to myself, well, 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: the only other time I would probably pick the Chiefs 199 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: would be at home against the Colts in week twelve. 200 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: So you said the Chiefs for this, No, I used. 201 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: Them against the Giants that game, and I want I 202 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: was able to advance one of my entries. But that's 203 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: that's the thought pro of it. And there's so many 204 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: different ways to go down, and you can look and 205 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: sites that do it well give you the option to 206 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: see who's available. Who was picked two, and you should 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: have about four if you're still alive, you should have 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: about four or five good teams and maybe in the 209 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: last two or three weeks, you're gonna have to play matchups. 210 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: But we've talked about your Jets. I believe the Jets. 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: They have the Titans and Saints on the schedule. There's 212 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: a triangle of where the Saints and Titans, I know, play, 213 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: so you're probably gonna get a lot of Saints picks 214 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: on that one. Okay, So the Saints, by the way, 215 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: in this pool where there's ninety three entries still left, 216 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: ninety two excuse me, ninety three people are left, eighty 217 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: nine have picked this. I have not picked the Saints yet. 218 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: I want of four people who have picked the Saints 219 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: to actually win and they beat the Giants. When they 220 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: beat the Giants, I picked the Saints that week. 221 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: Wait, so do you have to pick the Saints at 222 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: some point in the scene. 223 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Not necessarily. That's the other thing is there's going to 224 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: be what fourteen teams from the thirty two that you 225 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: don't pick at all. It's really fascinating and when you 226 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: get into it now, I'll probably get bounced by you know, 227 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: at some point I started with six entries and only 228 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: have one left. So there are five. The Bengals and 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: they lost to the Jets. That was a big one. 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: It was on that same day that the Falcons lost 231 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. So you see people trying to pick 232 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: middle of the road teams against bad teams, and I'll 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: always talk about the reason on why I'm thinking of 234 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: this matchup in that matchup. But there's just so many 235 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: different ways to go about it. It's a fun way 236 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: to play, and just wanted to shed a little light 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: into why we always do a survivor pick and why 238 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: I just think it's fun in fantasy football. 239 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: You know, I actually needed this, Dan. I've never actually 240 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: just sat down and learned about what a survivor league 241 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: really is. I've kind of known the basic premise of it, 242 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: but this is God, think I'm gonna join one next. 243 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: There's another angle to it. I was talking to a 244 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: cousin of mine a couple of years ago. They do 245 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: it the reverse way, where the team has to lose, 246 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: so you pick one team each week that you are 247 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: sure to lose. So if you took the Titans, say 248 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Week one, you couldn't pick the Titans anymore. It's a 249 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: different way of looking at it. 250 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like, who, what teams do you think 251 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: are going to absolutely suck this year? 252 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: Just pick that. 254 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: Wow, But it's I almost want to try that way. 256 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I know. I actually was really intrigued by it as well. 257 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this the easier way to do it? 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: If you're just trying to trying to pick the winners 259 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to pick the losers. 260 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: It's the Jets in me, because well. 261 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: I would just say this, there's there's more of a 262 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: known with the winning teams then there would be with 263 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: the losing teams, right Like, there's more like there's more 264 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: of there's more of that along the way, maybe you 265 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: would take the Lions in a week eleven matchup because 266 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: they're at Philadelphia because you're like, a, that's a tough 267 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: spot for them. Maybe that's where you would take like 268 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: a better team. But I think that it just shows 269 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: you there's different ways to do it. I've done it 270 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: with baseball. There's a baseball pool that I'm in where 271 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: you if a team it's for a week, and if 272 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: a team has a five hundred record or better, you 273 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: move on to the next week and you get three 274 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: strikes during the year. So if you get one wrong, 275 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: it's one you're at least active for a couple of 276 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: weeks sometimes have gone to August, another time have been 277 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: out by June. Because things are just you know, heads 278 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: over heels. But a lot of picking Againza it used 279 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: to be. Now it won't be with the Paul Skins 280 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: and the Pirates' pitching crew. But you get people to 281 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: pick against the Pirates, pick against the A's. They got 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: a three game set against the A's, you'd be able to, oh, 283 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to take that team. That's how you would 284 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: move along with doing it. But there's a bunch of 285 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: different ways to do it. I know some daily gaming 286 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: stuff has stuff with the NBA where you have twenty 287 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: points scorers was one of the contests that I saw 288 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: on one of the games where you pick a player 289 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: each night. If they have twenty points, you move on 290 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: to the next round and continue. So there's a lot 291 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: of different ways that you can do it. 292 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: What a time to be a sports Yeah. 293 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. For someone like me who loves drafts, I've 294 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: always loved drafts, this opened up a whole new world 295 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: for me of like, Okay, what's a different way that 296 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: I can consume sports? And survivor pools are ways of 297 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: doing so. 298 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm in five fantasy football leagues right now, 299 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: and I wonder if I should just like chop off 300 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: a few of those and you know, report maybe go 301 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: four fantasy leagues next year, one survivor league and just 302 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: see how that I'll. 303 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Leave it like this, it's not even nearly as. 304 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: Much of time commitment, correct, And we still. 305 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Want you to listen. I want your flex so we're 306 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: not trying to move you away from that. But it's 307 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: also the game that you picked that week. You are 308 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: locked in, like you like that is the game there 309 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: could be could be It could be Chiefs Broncos, could 310 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: be Seahawks Rams. But if you picked the Ravens to 311 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: beat the Browns in Week eleven, that's what you were watching, 312 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: like you were focused in on that one, especially if 313 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: you're this late in the season. 314 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: Anything anything like that in sports, that just gives you 315 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: the chance to feel like a genius. There's there's there's 316 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: a value in that as a sports fan for sure. 317 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: And I think like you're you're You're the way you 318 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: navigate the Chiefs Giants thing, you just come out feeling 319 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: like a genius. 320 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: After that you do, yeah, absolutely, And now like the 321 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: two people that have the Colts left because most people 322 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: don't in this certain pool like they feel like they're 323 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: way ahead of the game. But here's the question, if 324 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: the Colts played their best football of the season, like 325 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: was the time to use it early on? And now 326 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: are they It's all of those factors that that play 327 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: in that make it so much fun. So still TBD 328 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: on that. Yes, yes, you and Harmor are going to 329 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: talk a little Thursday night football bills and Texan's coming 330 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: up on Thursday and talk some more fantasy wise, So 331 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. With this rainy, soggy weather, just with 332 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: connections and whatnot, we were able to put this together 333 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: to you for our midweek episode, so will be back 334 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: with more. I'm Dan Pyre. It's right here, and I 335 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: want your flex. It is I want your flex. He's 336 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Bayer. We got no Ian Roddy here, 337 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: so that's our mix up here, but hey, hit Ian 338 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: up on X if you want it Ian Roddy Underscore. 339 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: You can always find Mike at Swollen Doman. While I 340 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: just tried to lax poetically about my love of survivor pools, Mike, 341 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: whether it be in college basketball, major League baseball, or 342 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League. You have been in this industry 343 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: for a long time. You've seen games come and go. 344 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: We talk very highly about the Guillotine League format and 345 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: how that has become a fixed uere at Fox Sports 346 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Radio and whatnot. But there's just so many other ways 347 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: where you can enjoy a fantasy branch, if you will, 348 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of the National Football League or other sports aside from 349 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: just maybe placing a bet on game. There's just so 350 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: many other ways to enjoy the National Football League. 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, what spot of time. 352 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: It's nearly twenty years ago, Dan, I actually had a 353 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 5: book published. Yes, they contracted me to write a book. 354 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: It's sold out quickly. Five thousand gobbies right are out 355 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: there somewhere as Kimling or at the bottom on the landfill. 356 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 5: But it was about everything as we had the explosion 357 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: of the fantasy realm, and certainly fantasy football was the 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 5: biggest thing. And at Yahoo, when the industry went paid for, 359 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: we stayed free, which meant anybody that just wanted to 360 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: dabble a little bit, they came into the waters with 361 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: us and hung out a little while. Eventually you need 362 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 5: to make some money, so that's when the stat. 363 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: Tracker, the Great. 364 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: Guy guys and the Java guys got together and we 365 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 5: had what became the Killer app because everyone wanted live scoring. Well, 366 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: if you had to pay a couple hundred bucks for 367 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: your league to be on insert league service here, well 368 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: at ours you could play for free, but if you 369 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: wanted the stats, you know, it was either ten bucks 370 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: a person or one hundred for the league, and you 371 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: got your live update, and it was a better user 372 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: interface and all of those things. We did it the 373 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: old drug dealer model. Hey, test this out, see if 374 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 5: you like it, and then all of a sudden week 375 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: two it didn't work, and people like, where's my stats? Like, well, 376 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: we warned you cough it up, So you know, it 377 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 5: was that kind of thing. But it was still much 378 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: cheaper than the other versions and it worked much better. 379 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: So we had that. Then you add golf and auto racing, 380 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 5: which had the strange world because of the I mean, 381 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 5: and you know this with golf, right, you got folks 382 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 5: that are fans. 383 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: Of a golfer. You had people in NASCAR that you. 384 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: Know, they were earn harder, earn hard junior fans, and 385 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: everybody else could go to hell. So but but you 386 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 5: didn't want a game whereby it became the setate and 387 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 5: forget it. So for golf purposes, all right, if you 388 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 5: had four active golfers, guess what, everybody was gonna pick 389 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 5: Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson. So there's two spots gone. 390 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 5: So we made it to where you had limits per 391 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: half of the season. So for the first eighteen events 392 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 5: or thereabouts. From the NASCAR side and about the same 393 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 5: for golf, it was all right. You could pick from 394 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 5: a list, B list, C list, and we did our 395 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: best to kind of parse it out based on endings 396 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 5: and histories. But it forced folks to churn over and 397 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: it became pretty popular and then started to spin out 398 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: into trivia games based on Survivor and all sorts of 399 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: other things, which I mean, and that's where we are 400 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: at this point. Almost every reality show has some form 401 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: of game element online, and certainly for fantasy purposes, Survivor 402 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: and Guillotine have gone into another stratosphere. 403 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the this is the other wang of it. 404 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Because I think we've all heard from buddies, I'm in 405 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: too many leagues, sure, And I didn't think it was 406 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: true until I got into too many leagues or just 407 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: had too many things on my plate, and it's different 408 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: for everybody. There's also a point, Mike of just all right, 409 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: am I chearing for everybody in the NFL or cheering 410 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: against everybody in the NFL because I've got it so 411 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: many sure, you know, right? Like you know on Monday night, 412 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I have Seed Lamb on one team and then I'm 413 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: playing against them in another. And we all experience that 414 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: sort of thing when you have multiple teams. But even 415 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: when there's multiple ways of doing it, which is why 416 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I like the I like the diversity of say a 417 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: Guillotine League. Now I'm not in love with the absolute format. 418 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that takes skill and intelligence, and maybe 419 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: fantasy football doesn't. I believe that it does. I think 420 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: that there's ways that you can get edges and advantages. 421 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much there is in Guillotine where 422 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: if you have you know, our cohort, Jason Stewart this 423 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: past week has two running backs that he started, where 424 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and Jalen Warren. Neither of them finished a game. 425 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: And you're kind of sol at that, you know, on 426 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: that part. So no matter how good the rest of 427 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: the team is, you're kind of working from behind. When 428 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: that happens, and then your season's over with, Whereas if 429 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: you had both of those players on your fantasy team, 430 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: you just say, Okay, well I didn't win this week. 431 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: I can come back and bounce back next week. So 432 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of weang of that. But it's the 433 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: weighing as well of my attention span. And that's why 434 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: I just the Survivor Pool was great for me because 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: it's just one game. It's one pick. It's just pick it, 436 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: and you can use a lot of time on it. 437 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: You can not think about it. It all depends on 438 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: really and what works in your life. And so there's 439 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: so many different ways to just to try to have 440 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: fun with this. And this is only we only have 441 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: eighteen weeks of the seventeen weeks of it, right, you know, 442 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: and then when it's gone, it's gone. So trying to 443 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: maximize it and finding that balance is so key. And 444 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: if you can find one that isn't maybe as high 445 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: interest or you know, high intensity, I think that works 446 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: for some people. 447 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the things we've talked about a lot. 448 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: You know, that back end of the season fantasy playoffs. 449 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: Once the playoffs, like say only four teams make the playoffs, 450 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 5: everybody else is done. So trying to figure out side contes, 451 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 5: side hustles that keep things going. I know Week eighteen. 452 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: Is a mess. 453 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: I would argue Week twelve, as we talk about earlier 454 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: in the week recapping week eleven, the number of injuries 455 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: and craters. I mean, you just talked about Jason Stewart 456 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 5: squad in the Guillotine League, right, I mean that's two 457 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 5: starting running backs. Add the number of quarterbacks that have 458 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: been felled and whatever, and teams are a shell of 459 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 5: themselves right now going I'm basically done right with the 460 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: number of season ending injuries, ir reports and everything else. 461 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 5: But you know, it's trying to figure out how to 462 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: extend it to keep it entertaining. Be doing this as 463 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 5: long as I have, I've been able to whittle away 464 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 5: some of the leagues. Some of them just ended naturally 465 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 5: because some of the folks that started them all those 466 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 5: years ago have aged out. Unfortunately, some of them have 467 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: passed on and nobody picked up the mantle to keep 468 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: those alive. A lot of them were those magazine leagues 469 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: where you were literally drafting two weeks after the NFL 470 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: draft and really throwing darts at what free agency might 471 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 5: look like. Right, It's like, all right, I drafted this 472 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 5: guy presuming they'd pay him, hope they decided not to 473 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: and he's now gone to Cleveland, you know, I mean 474 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: those kind of things that happened. 475 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: All across the board. 476 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's trying to find the the enjoyment and 477 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: time interest. 478 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Right. 479 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: You spend a lot of time with the survivor pick 480 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: and analyzing how to build out a grid, and that's 481 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: kind of what we do when you're looking at guillotine 482 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: to a degree, but you still have to survive that week. 483 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: So right, so like you're trying to balance those things. 484 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: All right, I can use the team here, but well 485 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 5: I like him in week twelve, but if I don't 486 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: make it to week twelve, it doesn't matter, you know, yeah, 487 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: absolutely so that that's part of the fun part of 488 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 5: the chaos. Add family things, add different work responsibilities depending 489 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 5: on what you'all do out there. Certainly, Dan and I, 490 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 5: you know, we pull a lot of strings during the 491 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 5: football season. You you have to move a lot more 492 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: deathly with the schedule and and what your responsibilities are 493 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: than I do. And you know, admired, you know how 494 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: you work it and take care of of your responsibilities. Dan, 495 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 5: but you know week to week that means that you 496 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 5: know you're time shifting as best you can to keep 497 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 5: things moving. 498 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, there's you know, it's funny because when the NC 499 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: DOUBLEA tournament comes around, and that's what I, you know, 500 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: was was telling Ian about the the survivor aspect. Where 501 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: I really got hooked was the NC DOUBLEA tournament. And 502 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: one of the reasons is because we've all been there 503 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: where you filled out a bracket and you lose your 504 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: final four team or your national championship in the first round, 505 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: you know, two gets upset by a fifteen and you're like, 506 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: oh wow, that was that was it? Like, that's that's it. 507 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm done now. 508 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 5: Sure I was able to buy one pack of trading 509 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: cards out of this, Like I didn't get a guy recognize. 510 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, you can fill out various brackets. But then again, 511 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: you're cheering for a bunch of outcomes, and I get that. 512 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: The survivor format is the same thing where like you 513 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: could be done right away. However, uh, if you win 514 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: and there are other people who are done right away, 515 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: it's much more exciting. Or you have multiple entries. Most 516 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: people say, all right, maximum two or three, and you 517 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: can vary it that way. Most survivor NFL pools are 518 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: are multiple entry if you if you want to, so 519 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: you can have fun that way. But it was just 520 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: a different way of enjoying the tournament and then as 521 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: the games go on, it's even more entertaining. And so 522 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: that's how it just this kind of all works out. 523 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with the NFL. And you know, 524 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't know the greatest way of the NBA. I 525 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: think that there's ways to do it. But I've talked 526 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: to you about the baseball survivor pool that I'm in 527 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: and mentioned it earlier. And you know, people have been 528 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: playing Fantasy Baseball long and than really any other you know, 529 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: fantasy format that there is. So it's just figuring out 530 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: different ways to enjoy these sports in these seasons that 531 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: you know that that you can keep yourself interested in 532 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: and have fun with. 533 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: Well it's funny, you know, you talk about the history 534 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 5: of stuff, right you got and this was part of 535 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: the the aforementioned book that's out there somewhere. Maybe I 536 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: should just photo copy some of the pages and put 537 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: them up online because they kept a couple of copies 538 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 5: of it, but you know you got seventy nine is 539 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 5: when rotisserie baseball really takes off and it becomes a 540 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 5: big thing. Right, So baseball was what we knew, right 541 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 5: passing spreadsheets back and forth. Maybe it was the USA 542 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 5: today you basically fought about or was it you know, 543 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: Baseball weekly? Which statue were going to use as your 544 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: official thing? Your commissioner had to do a lot of work, 545 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 5: probably didn't get compensated fully for the time, but they 546 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 5: were kind of nuts about the game, so they were 547 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: more than happy to do it. That sounds familiar about 548 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 5: a lot of the things we do in our lives. 549 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 5: But you know football, actually there was a group that 550 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 5: did all the way back in the sixties with the AFL. 551 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: Oh wow, it was a bunch of Raiders people. 552 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 5: No no, but like baseball was what became like well 553 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 5: known and GLU. But but they could trace back to 554 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: the Raiders and beat writers and folks and you can 555 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: only use AFL players And they would have a draft 556 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: and do that because it forced them to really dig 557 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 5: in on the other teams. And you know, everybody likes 558 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 5: a little bit of side action. Yeah, who was paying 559 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 5: for this? Round at the bar based on the week's 560 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: results and whatever. So yeah, it's just kind of crazy 561 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 5: and doing some of that research and talking to folks 562 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 5: back in the day. God, I don't want to get 563 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: it wrong, but I think it was eventually the personnel 564 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 5: people from the Packers right who built some of those 565 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: monster teams, were in their youth with those Raider squads 566 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 5: and they were the ones that kind of came up 567 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 5: with the. 568 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 4: Scoring format and stuff. 569 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: So it all ties together as much as the NFL 570 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 5: really didn't want it to for the longest of times, 571 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 5: and then they realized how much money they were all 572 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: missing out on. 573 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, this all happened long before the Houston Texans became 574 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: a franchise. I did find out on a TikTok that 575 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: like five or six other professional teams were named Texans. 576 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: I knew the Dallas Texans, I knew of that one, 577 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: but apparently there were others as well. But the Houston 578 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Texans didn't come about until two thousand and two. They 579 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: host the Bills coming up on Thursday night the start 580 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: week twelve, and I guess I don't know where to 581 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: start because Josh Allen's throwing to everybody except keyan Coleman 582 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: who can't show up to meetings, and Davis Mills now 583 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: now the man in Houston and leading them them to 584 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: that Week eleven victory against the Tennessee Titans, that that 585 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: titan of a team. But we got Bills Texans coming 586 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: up on Thursday night. 587 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: Kay, as we always say, one of two, seventy two 588 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: on the slate, what is it a five and a 589 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: half point road favorite? As we sit here to record 590 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: and chat this out, forty three and a half the 591 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 5: total Coleman and what was funny? I don't know if 592 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 5: you saw the Dion Dawkins comments. It's like we're not 593 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: here to hold anybody's hands or slap them on the 594 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: back anymore. It's big boys time now. So it'll be 595 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: curious to see how much he reintegrates. But I mean, 596 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: Josh Allen seems sure as hell happy to have Gabe 597 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: Davis back down field, so he's one of those guys 598 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 5: that'll be part of the waiver wire barrage for Week twelve. 599 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: But Allen with the six touchdowns moving the ball effectively 600 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: against the Tampa d But I mean, here's a huge 601 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: test because Tampa, or I should say, Houston's defense has 602 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 5: been great. Offensively, just enough to get over the hump. 603 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 5: And you know, as you say, just win ugly is 604 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: just fine and keep yourself alive and see if you 605 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: can't make some noise down the stretch. But you know, 606 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: for the texts Texans, I mean, Nico Collins continues to 607 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 5: get a healthy work share, don't Schultz, if you're playing 608 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: in a traditional league with tight ends, still sees enough 609 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 5: action running backs? 610 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: Do we bet on Woody Marks as a flex or 611 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: a back end too? 612 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: You know that kind of thing. I don't know how 613 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: comfortable I am, because I think it ends up becoming 614 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 5: a field goal contest for them. 615 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the volume is there for Woody Marx. It's 616 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: just as the production there. And we've had questions about 617 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: that offensive line protecting CJ. Stroud or lack thereof. And 618 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: it's not like they've been opening holes for their running backs, 619 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: whether it be Nick Chubb or Woody Mark. 620 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, all we can ask for is volume. 621 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Right. 622 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 5: Buffalo's the top ten defense on the other side as well, 623 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: when you took about points per game, So if we're 624 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 5: still going to get fifteen to twenty touches, you got 625 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 5: to play them, right, there's been enough of a hey 626 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 5: he may break when you'd love to see him be 627 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: more of a pass part of the passing game for Mars. 628 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 5: Just one target this last week in what should have 629 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 5: been a plus situation that way against Tennessee. As they 630 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 5: eke out that sixteenth, I mean they're back to five hundred. 631 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 5: That's the crazy thing. As bad, as poorly as they've played, 632 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 5: as ugly as it's been at times, it's the beauty 633 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 5: of the National Football League normalizing back towards five hundred. 634 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean Mills there, there's there's no chance, 635 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: I mean absolute desperation play, you know, unless you're just 636 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: going to team him up with Nico Collins and wishing hope. 637 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: But for the Josh Allen side of things, it's interesting 638 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 5: trying to parse through the receiving corps to really hammer 639 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: down on an individual. 640 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like the Tyrrell Shavers one is more 641 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: of a of a right, you're not going to get 642 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: a week in and week out. 643 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 5: That's one of the great names of the week right 644 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: coming out of San Diego State. There eleven catches on 645 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: the year now for one hundred and seventy two. But 646 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 5: you know, the the incredulity of wait, what right, And 647 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: Shakira had one catch for minus three yards. 648 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Yes, well that's one catch. Yeah. I was looking at 649 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: a guy's roster, you know, this week in my league, 650 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a second, is that correct? Like 651 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: is that an It was, and you would have thought, well, 652 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: with Keon Coleman out, Shakie's gonna feast. Uh he did not. 653 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: He went on a diet. 654 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was That was a game I had, Uh, 655 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: my daughter had a soccer game. So for part of 656 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: that window, I was in the car and the Bills 657 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: game was one of the national broadcast games that showed 658 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: up on one of our iHeart affiliates. 659 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: So listen to it. 660 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 5: And when he caught the ball for minus three yards, 661 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: even the announcers like, that's the and there was just 662 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 5: long pause. 663 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: That's his first catch in the game. 664 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 5: And that was pretty deep in the game, like that 665 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 5: was not you know, hey, first ball, let's get him involved. 666 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 5: So it's that that's moderately concerning. We've talked about Shakir 667 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 5: a lot. Just like the Woody Mark side of things, 668 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 5: it's generally you get volume, whether you get you know 669 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 5: that ceiling is fairly low. Most weeks. But the floor 670 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 5: meets it right, It's you're sitting in that sweet nine 671 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 5: to fourteen range most weeks. Unfortunately, this week against Tampa, 672 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: you'd see that final score. No coleman as you say, 673 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: like someone had to eat like no not. 674 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: In Yeah, well, hey it's football on a Thursday night. 675 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Next week we've got the Thanksgiving week. Just a programming reminder, 676 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: you're only going to get two episodes. If I want 677 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: your flex on Thanksgiving week, we'll give you our full 678 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: rankings episode that we always do. It'll just come a 679 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: little bit earlier because of the three games on Thursday 680 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: and the game on Black Friday. But that is for 681 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: next week and for week twelve ahead. Just remember, yeah, 682 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, despite that great victory in Spain over 683 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: the Commanders, both of those teams will be getting the 684 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: week off. So the Dolphins, unable to carry into momentum 685 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: Denver's winning streak is gonna have to wait a week 686 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: because they're on buy and the Chargers they probably wish 687 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: they just didn't show up to Jacksonville, but there on Buy. 688 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: In week twelve as well, that was a rough. 689 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 5: One, an I know, getting the ice tubs, all those 690 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 5: offensive linemen. Figure out the restorative values so you can 691 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 5: keep Justin Herbert from getting broken in hands. 692 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh they need it. Hey, they may have bigger fish 693 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: to fry, but you can't be dropping games like they 694 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: did on Sunday. At least did that embarrassing fast anyway. 695 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for us. Here and I 696 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: want your flex. He is Mike Krmen. I'm Dan Byer. 697 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Thanks to our executive Ian Roddy. Executive producer Ian Roddy. 698 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: We'll be back later of the week with our week 699 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: twelve rankings. Next episode here and I want your flex. Bye.