1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training camp petition. Here 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: are your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick shut 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Then we're welcome you into the Dog Bowl in Maria, 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: day number five of two thousand nineteen Cleveland Brown's training 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: camp on Jason Gibbs, Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble. We've 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: been with you every day of training camp and we'll 7 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: be throughout the rest of the two thousand nineteen training 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: camp and pre season. Final day of a five day, 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: very long stretched gentleman. Uh, that saw probably the hottest 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: day of the week, of the five days, and by 11 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: far probably the most contact in terms of a lot 12 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: of running the football, a lot of offensive line, defensive line, 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: really mixing it up, and Gribble to what you said yesterday, 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: coaches trying to test these players on that final day 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: before day off. Yeah, it was like you said, a 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of contact. Maybe not the most entertaining or exciting 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: practice because you had a couple of your playmakers weren't 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: out there. I think Odell Beckham was was limited from 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: just it was a kind of on the schedule for 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: him to be not doing too much out there, and 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: just the types of periods they're running, and the types 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: of things they were drilling at not exactly designed to 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: garner a ton of highlights. I mean, hopefully you break 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: off a run or two here and there, but it 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: was a lot of running, uh, And and they didn't 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: really end it with much of a competition like they 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: had in the previous practices. It just kind of ended 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: with a incomplete pass and all of a sudden you 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: were done. But I think you have to look at 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: this as a totality. I think it's been a good 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: first five days. I think everyone us included, uh needs 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: a break. And I think we've seen a lot of football. 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: The fans have seen a lot of football. And now 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: you use this twenty four hour and come back fresh 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I would agree. I think today. You know, 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: it's funny we were chatting along the sideline as players 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: were stretching. A lot of us forgot what day it was. Um, 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's Monday. I have not had any idea 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: what it has been, probably since frought. I was driving 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: in I wonder, why is there so much traffic this morning? 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh wait, it's the start of a work week. It 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: just you know, we've been going for days and days 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and days. But it's been a lot of good football, 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, as Andrew said, and Um, today, kind of 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a a little act luster performance 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: is about cal It's It was a little bit lackluster, 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: and you could tell these guys were ready for their break, 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: which they'll get tomorrow. And I think it's probably punctuated 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: by that incomplete past that just ended things. You know, 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, you know what, we 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: worked through, our everything in our script that we needed 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: to do. Everybody executed to the best of their abilities. 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Let's finish this practice and and move forward. It was 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: interesting to me um earlier, the earlier periods with a 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: lot of that contact was very run heavy, you were right, 56 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: But then you got in the later parts and it 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: was it was cool to kind of see the coaching 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: staff build off of that, you know, much like a 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: regular game plan. All those run plays early they built 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: out of that into some play action. You saw some 61 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: lineman executing some run action blocks behind the line without 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: getting downfield to avoid a penalty. And and they were 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: throwing the ball. They weren't completing passes, a lot of 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: drop passes, but it was interesting to see the progression 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: of play calling within the practice from early periods to 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the later periods. Willie Wright, I know, got dinged up 67 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: a little bit and had to come out after the 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: offensive lineman drills obviously set the valve, gets a little 69 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: dinged up at the end of practice there in the 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: in the eleven on eleven's and hopefully he's okay, but uh, 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Jernard Avery not a not a participant today, Duke Johnson, 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt still out, um, and yet you know there 73 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: are guys stepping up. Ratley still out, guys stepping up 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: and stepping into their places and really not missing a beat. 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Dontrelle Hilliard has really played pretty well here the last 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: couple of days. And from what we know, I think 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: the encouraging thing is at least from what we know. 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, things could be worse than we just don't know. 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: But the first five days you're you're relatively healthy or 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: just guys dealing with some minor stuff. I think that's 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the that's the good thing. And as Freddie talked about yesterday, 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: it's like these are the five days where you're worry 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: about someone really having a bad soft tissue injury here 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: and there. Gnard averys one that you want to see 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: back soon. I know he dealt with an injury last 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: time this year, uh during the preseason. Uh. He's someone 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: that I really think does have a role on this team, 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's just gonna it's one of those 89 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: ones where we might learn about his role in games 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: more than we learned about it on the practice field, 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: because he's almost someone you can't really pigeonhold a certain 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: position right now. He's not going to be out there 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: doing what's what Joe Schobert does. He's more likely to 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: be doing what Chris Smith does on on the defensive line. 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see him back. And I think 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: for a guy like Ratley, it's gotta be tough to watch. 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys playing well at 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: that wide receiver position. Derek Willie's especially has been very good. 99 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway had a good practice today, Ishmael Hyman has 100 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: been consistent. We talked about Blake Jackson earlier this week. 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: A lot of players out there, and for Ratley, you 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: gotta hope for him, he's got to want to get 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: back for at least uh maybe preseason game ones out 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: of reach, but hopefully he can get back by Game two. 105 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: It's tough because the nature of his injury too. I mean, 106 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: he could miss a decent amount of time just because 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: it's a hamstring injury. And these other guys, you know, 108 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: like you said, they are taking up the mantel and 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: and they're playing well in his absence. And I mean 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: that's the nature of camp. You know, sometimes things just 111 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: happened where guys get their opportunities because of an unfortunate 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: set of circumstances and never look back, and then you 113 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: forget about, you know, that person who may have gotten 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: hurt and opened the door for somebody else. It's just 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: the way that the NFL is. Uh Kalis was at 116 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: guard today and you mentioned Willie's Willie is getting some 117 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: first team reps and maybe a little surprising, but no 118 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Antonio callaway with the first team on a day off 119 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: from Odell Beckham Jr. Now, yesterday he did get some 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: first team reps were which were his first of camp, 121 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: and that was, you know, a little bit exciting to 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: see her, encouraging to see for him. But you know, 123 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: despite not being with the first teamers today, he had 124 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: a good practice. I mean, he had an end around that, 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: he took into the end zone for a touchdown. He 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: caught a nice pass on the sideline with Greedy Williams 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: draped all over him. He made some nice catches in between. 128 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: It was probably one of his more solid practices, if 129 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: not the most solid practice of the first five so far. 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchen said afterward, you know that he's doing all 131 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: the right things and it's just a matter of time. 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: And you know he was even back there catching punts 133 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be one of the return of guys 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: this year. So we're yeah, I like that. Freddy confirmed 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: that because that's that's a progress from last year. I mean, 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: he really wasn't a punt return last year until the end, 137 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: and when when you saw him out there, you're like, 138 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: why isn't this guy been the punt return or all season? 139 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got the natural ability, but it does 140 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: seem like that's something that you want a player like 141 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Callaway to be focused on what he should be doing 142 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: first his wide receiver and then the punt return is 143 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: almost like a reward there. But I think that makes 144 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: the team all all around better if he's your part return. 145 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really funny to watch these guys return 146 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: punts just because it's coming off the jugs or maybe 147 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: it's coming off the punter's leg, and how some are 148 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: very natural like first few the punt and then running, 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: and then some are better at feeling it but not running, 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: whereas some are not good at feeling it, but if 151 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: they do get the ball, they're good at running. It's 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: just it's funny how you have to combine so many 153 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: different skills to be good at this. And watching from 154 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: behind as the balls coming towards you, uh, and watching 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: how they react to it. That's a great point. I saw. 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of that today and it 157 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: was it was interesting to see. There were some bobbles, 158 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: there were some fumbles, but there were some good moves 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and good moments where you go, all right, well, maybe 160 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe there's something. They're a lot of movement on the 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Scottis Shammers ball of Yeah, It's just it's all over 162 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: the place, and I think it is interesting too. Co 163 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Quit obviously has been incredibly consistent from whenever we see 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: him out there. But for those punt returners, those are 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: two very different balls. You're and and co Quit is 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: like a literal knuckleball where there's like no, no, not 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: much movement on it at all, Like it's just it's 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: almost like someone It's like it's out of a jugs machine. 169 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Whereas Gillens is, it depends on the flavor. I mean 170 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: it could be one way one one point, it could 171 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: be another on another. I mean so that that might 172 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: be a tough adjustment for some of these return guys. 173 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I saw gill and send one deep. It had a 174 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: completely different spin than another one that you sent up 175 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: to look like an old timey airplane where it had 176 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: its climb, it's it's and then it kind of reached 177 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: cruising altitude and then slowly began to scent nose down 178 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: right into the arms of a punt reachender. So yeah, 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: it's it's good practice. Biggest takeaway from the first five 180 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: days of camp. I mean this is a pretty generic one, 181 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: but this is clearly Freddie Kitchens team. I mean, like 182 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: the tone has been set. This is there's been training, campus, 183 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: training camp. They all looked the same on the surface, 184 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: but there's been just little twists here and there and 185 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: where you see him get really involved get on guys, 186 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's something we've seen more than maybe 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: we were expecting because we didn't see him like this 188 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: during O t s. You didn't see him like this 189 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: even in mini camp, where now that it's getting physical 190 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: and now that you're getting towards crunch time with the 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: season six weeks away, the anticity, the intensity is ratcheted up, 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: and it starts with the way Kitchens has been on 193 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the practice field. I mean when he has been upping 194 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: guys faces, uh, not tolerating any sort of penalty type behavior, 195 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: anything that results in a penalty or anything. It's really 196 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: the penalties and the just guys doing the wrong things. 197 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Those are the two things that bug him more than anything. 198 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: You don't see guys. I mean you see some comments 199 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: here and there when I guy drops a pass, but 200 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: that gets less attention than it does when a guy 201 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: is doing the wrong thing out there. This is a 202 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: vocal staff and and trying to avoid cliche, but then 203 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: go with the cliche anyway, Maybe fans will like it, 204 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: um this. There will be plenty of bark to this dog. 205 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, it's not just you know, fluff. 206 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: It's not just we're gonna be a tough team. It 207 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: would be a physical team. They run practice like that 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: these coaches are allowed their vocal players are chirping at 209 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: each other. It's very competitive. It's heated. Nobody's really taking 210 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: a playoff. And even today their fifth straight practice, it 211 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: was still competitive. Even then. You know, you saw Sa 212 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Takie Talkie fill a hole and run over to Ernest 213 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Johnson as he was trying to step up and pass block. 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: And then you heard Stump Mitchell get after a talkie 215 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: talk immediately after the play. I mean, these two sides 216 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: are really going. And the defense came to talk talkie 217 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: started barking back. Yep, exactly. And there are two sides 218 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: that are are very competitive. It's going to make for 219 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: a better football team come September. It's interesting with Taki 220 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: Taki being a rookie because obviously he's clearly annoying the 221 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: offensive players, but it's like once they get a preseason 222 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: game under their belts and that guy is fully on 223 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: their team, like that's when you might see them embrace 224 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: what he's all about a little bit more. It's he's 225 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: a guy you want on your team, and in a 226 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: training camp situation, offensively you're going up against him. But 227 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: now when you play the Redskins next Thursday, then you're 228 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna get to enjoy him from the sidelines. I think 229 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the beauty of it is based on Christian Kirky's answers today. 230 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: It only took the defense five practices to love Takie 231 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Talkie even more than Elliott Wolf loves Takie Taki. A 232 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: violent player. Yeah, Elliot Wolf plays violently. Big takeaway for you, 233 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: I think they needed this day off. I think they've 234 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: worked really hard through these first five days and it 235 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: showed a little bit. And and that might not be 236 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: the most positive takeaway, but it's not really a negative 237 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: one either, because if you were going into your day 238 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: off after five straight days of practice and you showed 239 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: some energy, then maybe you weren't giving it. You're all 240 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: in the days prior. I think they've gotten a good 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: amount accomplished. I think the offense is going to use 242 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: this time in the meeting rooms to work on what 243 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: it needs to fix. And I also think we are 244 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: super far away from figuring out right guard. Uh. Not 245 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the best day from Kyle Kyless, not the worst, but 246 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: not the best. And I think we have a long 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: way to go to figure out who's gonna start there. 248 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: And we will hear from Freddie Kitchens on that right 249 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: guard position battle coming up in our sound bites. That's 250 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: what happened on the first five days of training camp, 251 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reaction, some takeaways, and obviously 252 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: recapping what happened today the final day and pads before 253 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: a well deserved day off for the players. Right now, 254 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: my good friend and lineman expert Nick Shook had a 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: chance to sit down with one of the Brown's newest 256 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: auditions on that line and guard, Eric Cush. Big takeaway 257 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: before we roll the audio. Anybody who watched Hard Knocks 258 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: and thought Coush was kind of a goofy guy or 259 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: or a unique personality, That's definitely true. He was not 260 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: putting on the front there, but he he does give 261 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: you a little bit of an enlightenment. But yeah, he's 262 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: definitely very lighthearted. First few days of camp in the books. Now, 263 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: second day of hitting, how you feeling good? He's you 264 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: forget how sorry you get? Man? The uh not just 265 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: like your there's the large muscles, but like your whole forearms, 266 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: Like every every little spot on my forearms are tender, 267 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: just from getting chopped and smacked and hidden and piles 268 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: and um, you know, just all a little, a little 269 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: things in soreness. You're forgetting about for a while, you know, 270 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: come one through five. How many times a day are 271 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: you getting cleaded in the leg? Oh? Actually, not too bad. 272 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Sends are pretty good so far. So let's say it's 273 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: pretty low. I haven't han't been getting cleared yet. Uh, 274 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the guys around me have been staying up and not 275 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: all crazy. Leg I guess gotten rolled up on anything 276 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: right once, but not too bad. You know. I was 277 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: able to kind of skirt out of the way and 278 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: dodge a bullet. That's a skill. That's definitely a skill. Um. Okay, 279 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: So what attracted you to come to the Browns this 280 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: off season as a free agent? Um? You know, John 281 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Dorsey was awesome. I like John Dorsey. I was with 282 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Dorsey in my past. I love him. Um. And then 283 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: being so close to where I grew up over in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania. Um, 284 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: it's nice to be back home. And you know, heck, 285 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: all all off season on the O t A s uh. 286 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: On the weekends, I got to after practicing, got the 287 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: drive home, or after at the end of the last 288 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: practice of the week, I got to drive home, go 289 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: see my family. You know, my my mom, Dad, my sisters, 290 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: who I uh, you know, I don't usually get to 291 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: see too much as I live out in Kansas City, 292 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Missouri as where I you know, kind of home bases 293 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: for now. Um, so it's were nice just to be 294 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: able to go home every weekend and see my folks 295 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: that I haven't. You know that I don't get to 296 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: see as much anymore. Yeah, it's good. I can definitely 297 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: play as a positive factor. I wanted to sign here. 298 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: When you signed, where did they say they saw you 299 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: fitting in? Um? As an offensive lineman? Um, they definitely 300 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: weren't gonna see me fitting in as a linebacker. So 301 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, they said, hey, we want you to play 302 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: a line So what are you like surprised there? You know? Yeah, 303 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: oh really I thought it was gonna play running back. No, 304 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: that's uh. I'm having a lot of fun here. It's 305 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: doing a good time. We're having a lot of fun, 306 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: working very hard. Um, we'll make something fun happen here. 307 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: You've been rotating even you've been playing some center, some 308 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: second team right guards, starting a right guard. How has 309 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: that rotation been on you so far? That's good. It's football, man. 310 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna have been doing center and guard center, and 311 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: guard center and guard. So it's whatever, dude, you know, 312 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: one day you play guard, one day you play center. 313 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, you just square up the stands and snap 314 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: them all exactly. What do you think about your teammates 315 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: you're playing alongside here? A lot of fun, man, a 316 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun like I'm having. We're working our butts 317 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: if we're doing all the right things, but then we're 318 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: able to have a few good billy laughs along the way, 319 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, which is something I uh thoroughly enjoyed this year, 320 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: is having a few good billy laughs every day to 321 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: to really uh, you know, reduce the stress, you know, 322 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: reminding we're still playing a game and it's still a 323 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: lot of fun. When you look at yourself as a lineman, 324 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: you're not you're gonna tell me that you're gonna in 325 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: both of these areas. But if you had to pick one, 326 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: what are you better and run blocking? Your pass blocking? Um, 327 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: I would say what depends man espection on what types 328 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: of runs. You could say overall, you can say a 329 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: little better pass blocker, because that's what the Internet says. 330 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: Apparently that's what the numbers say, right, the PFF numbers. Right. Okay, 331 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: So you get to pick from one of I don't know, 332 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: five six blocks. You get to pick from a counter 333 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: a trap, which is much like a counter across block. 334 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: You know where like where you're making like an X 335 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: with your tackle, like your tackles down, you're kind of 336 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: pulling out kicking somebody out. Uh, basically it's just in 337 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. And then you get your ace, your deuice, 338 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, doubling on a nose or doubling on a three. 339 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Which one would you prefer? I'd like to be the 340 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: uncovered guard acing with a center because you get a 341 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: chance to really just wind up, take a few good 342 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: steps before you even get to the nose. And in 343 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: all the centers, the center just kind of stands him 344 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: on before you. And then as a guard he wants 345 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: the center stands him up, you just get the train 346 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: roll right past him. So that's probably my favorite. Is 347 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: a good ace blood is the uncovered guard with an 348 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: ace block. Where's your target on an ace? Where are 349 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: you aiming? Oh? I shoot, Uh, I'm just trying to 350 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,479 Speaker 1: make Unofficially I'm trying to plow his ribs in. Officially, 351 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to fit a good fit with the center 352 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and make a good block, and yeah, how good does 353 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: it feel to get to second level off of that 354 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: block and really clear a big hole. It's good, it's one. 355 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: But you want to make sure you take your down 356 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: lineman first like that. You gotta make the you know, 357 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: initial movement first. Um. It's a lot of fun um 358 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: sometimes that those linebackers, so they're slippy and they're pretty 359 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: damn athletic, so you gotta be you know, you gotta 360 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: you gotta hit him and uh kind of hang on 361 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: a little bit. How many times in your career have 362 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: you felt like you've been on the tracks and about 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: to run somebody down they slip right off a lot. Dude, 364 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: there's no linement of God. You're talking about screens, you're not, 365 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, like we're big dudes, and you know we 366 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: get out in the open. Everybody runs screens. You cant 367 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: run screens a lot. You get out in the open, 368 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: you're like, well, I again, thinks the little guys just 369 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of dipping Sometimes you just you know, look that 370 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: great when you get checked out and you get your 371 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: ankles broke, But it happens, you know, you get out 372 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: of athlete, and so it's all about you know taking 373 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: your right course, um, and you know knowing where the 374 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: back is going to be, so you can the best 375 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: you can be in the right spot when you need 376 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: to be and not necessarily just trying to run down 377 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: and make the block. A lot of fans might know 378 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: you from your time on Hard Knocks back with the Rams, 379 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: and you're your robust tank top collection and in your 380 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: love of fat I'm American for you should up here 381 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: this year on a Wednesday in a stringer. So are 382 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: we moving to fat arm American Wednesday? Well, it's just 383 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: it was a great day, beautiful day, beautiful weather out here, 384 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: and we're tank tops when I can. And it was 385 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to get like I always said before, 386 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: I think I said in my past, like is it's 387 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: hot and sunny like that and you're wearing a T shirt. 388 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: You're just gonna sweat the pits out on the T 389 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: shirt anyway, So you mus more wear a tank top 390 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: and air it out, you know, stay cool. Um, anyone 391 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: to look good and coming in for the cameras and stuff. 392 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: So is there a cut off for tank top weather? Yeah, 393 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: you don't. You're not trying to get hypothermia, you know. So, 394 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: But but if you're working out inside then no, Like 395 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: you can wear them all year round indoors, and I'm 396 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: not gonna walk outside in the tank top in the winter. Alright. 397 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Last question, You're in another cold weather city and this 398 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: team in this fan base hopes that you guys are 399 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna be playing a lot of cold weather games. Are 400 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: you a no sleeves guy? It depends If I'm playing, 401 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm no sleeves. If I'm not playing, I'm gonna be 402 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: smart and put sleeves on the sidelines so I can 403 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: be ready to play and warm when I need to be. Um, 404 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: what I'm playing? No? Um, you can cheat a little 405 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: bit and a loop up your and put some kind 406 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: of vasiline stuff on there so it looks like you 407 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: know what sleeps on. But the vassiline really helps the chill, 408 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: the wind chill kind of not get your skin. I 409 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: guess what the psychology behind that? Oh, who knows. You 410 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: just want to look tough and not a big baby. 411 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm not ever works. I think the science says he's 412 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: probably wear the shirt and stay warm. Uh, because all 413 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the vaso construction from being cold can really slow down 414 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: your hands, your reaction, your timing, so maybe I wear 415 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: the shirt. You don't want to lose your limbs that way. 416 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Definitely not all right? Eric, thanks always looking tough, never 417 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: looking like a baby. Great job, and we appreciate Eric 418 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: Cusha's time. A guy that is definitely in the mix 419 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: at the right guard spot, a spot that is definitely 420 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: not decided by any stretch. Here's what Freddie Kitchens had 421 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: to say when he was asked today where the right 422 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: guard battle stood and if there was a leader there's not. 423 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you wish one was or you okay with yeah, 424 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: I wish one was, But I want them all three 425 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: to compete. Um. And they've all had some good plays, 426 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: they've all had some bad plays, But I don't know 427 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: circumstances we uh, you know, or we're ready to name 428 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: the starting guard. If this what you guys are asking. Freddie, 429 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: not mixing any words. There's been some good moments, there 430 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: have been there have been bad moments, and no one 431 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: with the lead here five days into camp. When I 432 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: when he when I heard him say this today, I 433 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: was really happy because that's exactly how I feel. You know, 434 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: the other day, I think it was two days ago, 435 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: I had said, if we had to pick a start 436 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: of the Eric Cush Corbett had a solid day yesterday, 437 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: but he still hasn't really blown me away. It's hard 438 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: to blow somebody away in training camp, but watching Joel 439 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Attonio and j C try to work together blows me 440 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: away almost every day. Corbett's getting into that realm, but 441 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: not quite there yet. Cal Kalis did not have that 442 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: kind of day to day. I just I feel like 443 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: the clarity is still lacking. I think we are at 444 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: least a week or two away. We're definitely a preseason 445 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: game away from figuring at least a little bit of 446 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: this out. It's gonna be a long road. This rotation 447 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: is probably going to continue for some time. So I 448 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: imagine if it's not decided by next Thursday, which I 449 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: don't think it will be, what are we envisioning Probably 450 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: a Corbett start in that game, because he was the 451 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: one that started out first, uh in training camp and 452 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: that's kind of just how you go through it. And 453 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: I think and I think Corbett has been solid. I 454 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: think that he I think Cush is probably among the 455 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: three the best backup center. I think we can all 456 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: agree on that he's done it before, has experience. You 457 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: want a guy with experience being your backup center. The 458 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen Brown season went off the rails for 459 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. The center situation was definitely top three. 460 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Maybe not the most documented one, but there are some 461 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: issues at center once Alex Matc got hurt in two 462 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, so you need a solid backup center 463 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: who's done it before. I think cushes that guy, and 464 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: that's why I would imagine he has a role in 465 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: this team no matter what happens in this right guard competition. 466 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: You know. I just think that if we were, if 467 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: you were going to have a wide open competition, which 468 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: is what is going to happen, I don't think know 469 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: why you would have decided it to five days into 470 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: practice anyways, especially now that all of them have had 471 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: one practice with contact. So I'm not surprised, but I 472 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: would imagine this is one you want wrapped up before 473 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that Tampa Bay Dress roarsal. Yeah, I would definitely agree. 474 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I think the more interesting element to me, outside of 475 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, the rotational guys, is where Brian 476 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: Witzman comes into play here. Because he's gotten most of 477 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: his snaps at left guard, third team, he got to 478 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: play some right guard. Drew Forbes also played some right 479 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: guard on the third team as well as left tackle. 480 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: He's done much better at guard than he has a tackle. 481 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: He continues to look more like a guard than a tackle, 482 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: but then he's getting reps at both positions. Um, but 483 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: where does Whitsman fit in? Because if you're thinking about 484 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: narrowing down this roster, it's very early to tell, but 485 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: if you're thinking about narrowing down this roster, he comes 486 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: into play as well as whoever loses and comes in third. 487 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: Because I think of all those players, the two with 488 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: the likeliest chance to make the roster are Eric Kush 489 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: because of his veteran experience and ability to play center well, 490 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: and Austin Corbett because he's running with ones right now. 491 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Something drastic would have to happen for me, I think 492 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: for him to not make the team, But then you're 493 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to start trimming somewhere else. So where do 494 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you trim? And I think Whitman's role in this should 495 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: be you should keep an eye on it and see 496 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: if he finds the success with the third teamers playing 497 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: right guard and the sparing snaps that he gets in 498 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: case we see some come from behind effort or something 499 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: like that. I just think it's it's still pretty wide open. 500 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: It's very interesting, and unfortunately those whole third team reps, 501 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you might only be in there for one play, 502 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: two plays. You're going to get most of your work 503 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: probably in a preseason game. Yeah. The guy I feel 504 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: for the most in all this really is Drew Forbes, 505 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: because this is a guy who played tackle in college 506 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: who didn't have to do a lot of the traditional 507 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: tackle things that you see in the NFL. He doesn't. 508 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: He never vertical pass dropped in college. He's had to 509 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: learn that. At most, he did a forty five degree drop, 510 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: which is vastly different. And then he's also going from 511 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: playing the left side on the outside as a tackle 512 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: to going to play on the interior on the right 513 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: side as a guard one play after another, and in 514 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: the middle of a camp practice, in his first training camp. 515 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot to handle. And I applaud the kid 516 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: for for staying tough and trying to do his best 517 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: in that in that situation. But remember how much Austin 518 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Corbett played last preseason. That was that was that was 519 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: a that was that was a storyline last year. He 520 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: should be used to those preseason snaps. I mean he 521 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: played a ton and did he played a lot of them? 522 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Was it the fourth preseason game he played a lot? 523 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: In the fourth one he started. I think that yeah, 524 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: because they were still experimenting with that the potential of 525 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: him starting. And I I was telling talking to someone 526 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: about this Sturday, in that whole situation where Joel Platonio 527 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: was the left tackle and Corbett was the left guard. 528 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: I never watched the game thinking Man Corbett's just a 529 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: liability here. I didn't think that was the issue. It 530 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: was more about taking Joel Patonio outside of the position 531 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: where he is elite. I think that was the decision. 532 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't when you watched, you weren't like Man corpetts 533 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: out of his element. That's why I still, even in 534 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: this competition, I just have a hard time making him 535 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: not the favorite. I just think Corbett is someone that 536 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: is eventually gonna emerge here. I will definitely say this. 537 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: He has done nothing to take himself out of being 538 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: the favorite so far. It's just that it's not clear 539 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: that really anyone's the favorite or in the lead. Maybe 540 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: I think corvid is still a favorite, but no one's 541 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: in the lead right now, that's a much better way 542 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: to put it, all right, another player that we've seen 543 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: him look pretty good. We've also seen him make a 544 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: few mistakes. That's tight end David Nujoku and Freddie Kitchens 545 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: continues the tough love on David Nujoku here. I think 546 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: David and Joco news get better both thought, I don't 547 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: see a finished product there. I don't know what that. 548 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I just don't. I mean, 549 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: if David flexes out, he's expected to catch the ball. 550 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: When he's inline, he's expected to block. He's a tight end. 551 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: He needs to get both better at both of them. 552 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: So um, yeah about that? Uh by far not a 553 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: finished product. Okay, a lot of work still to go 554 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: for the young tight end. Let's not forget he's pretty 555 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: young and pretty green still. But a guy that has 556 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: made plays here in this first five days. But there 557 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: are still those moments where you go, what were you doing? 558 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: What happened there? What? Why did that happen? And he 559 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: just has to clean some things up and continue to 560 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: get better. And that's the overall theme with Freddy Kitchens. Yeah, 561 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: Fredy Kitchens has made that clear. I don't know what 562 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: day he said it where he wants you the same 563 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: every day. He doesn't want the roller coaster. He wants 564 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: the same, and you know, let's be honest, it can 565 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: be a bit of a roller coaster with David when 566 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: it comes to amazing, spectacular plays that you can't believe 567 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: he made this showing off some of that amazing athleticism 568 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: he has, and then there's the other moments you're like, oh, 569 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: it's like that's unfortunate, you know. I mean, so you 570 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: he wants the you want the steady play, and that's 571 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: what Freddie wants. He wants someone he can count on 572 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: and knows when you put you in that spot, you're 573 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: going to execute. And I think that I think we've 574 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: seen David really rise to the challenge in the red 575 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: zone where he has been awesome this the first five 576 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: days made that clear. He has been a go to 577 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: guy in the red zone. He easily leads the camp 578 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: in touchdowns right now, for whatever that means. But you 579 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: know there's gonna be other areas that, you know, get 580 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: under a coach's skin if you're not continuing to do 581 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: the right things on every single play. Freddie Kitchens is 582 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: a guy who likes to use multiple tight ends in 583 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: part because those tight ends can both block and catches passes, 584 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: and and and the the ability to disguise what you're 585 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: doing out of those formations. Traditionally a three tight ends 586 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: that is a run formation. But if you can run 587 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: play action out of it and do it well, and 588 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: you can get those tight ends of block when you 589 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: do run, then the play action is more dangerous and 590 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: then you can get those guys open, you can get mismatches, 591 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: and you can move the ball down the field. But 592 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: if one of those tight ends doesn't block well, then 593 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: that's kind of a weakness and that's something that everybody 594 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: in charge here has focused on for this entire offseason. 595 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: He needs to be better at blocking, and he does 596 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: still have those lulls. John Lily, the Titands coach, talked 597 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: about that as well today. And there was one play 598 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: in particular where everybody has been who was watching has 599 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: been on David for it. It It was a play in 600 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: which Myles Garrett kind of shot inside him and blew 601 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: up a play. It was like a handoff the Nick 602 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: Chubb blew them up in the backfield and Miles celebrated 603 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: everything else, but what they also don't realize, and John 604 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: Lily kind of pointed this out was David wasn't alone 605 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: in that assignment. He was supposed to receive some help. 606 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Calis was executing a long pull and just never 607 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: got there. So I think that that's a little bit 608 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: unfair to criticize that specific play. But also I think 609 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: that he does need to continue to work on his 610 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: blocking and once he gets that, here's the thing is, 611 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: like he is an awesome pass catcher, and he's a 612 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: great leaper, and he's a freak athlete. Once he gets 613 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: that blocking under control, he could be a top five 614 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: tight end in this league. And I think he has 615 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: to understand that, and it's a work in progress. The 616 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: question is is just how long does that go before 617 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: he either accepts that he needs to be a good 618 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: blocker or you know, you start to figure out what 619 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: else you're gonna do. Final SoundBite of the day, linebacker 620 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: coach l Holcomb. We're starting to get some of the 621 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: position coaches talking here. Holcomb on Jennard Avery and Avery 622 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: of course laid up right now with this with this 623 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: ankle injury or whatever injury it might be talking defensive 624 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: line and linebacker, possibly for the young second year player. 625 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Jenard is a versatile player. Uh, for the most part, 626 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: he's been working with the defensive line because when he 627 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: amount of college, his forte for the most part, was 628 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: as an edge defender. So we have different roles for 629 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: Genard in our defense. Uh, some things that you might 630 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: not see at this point in time, but genarda is 631 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: still a part of the linebacker slash defensive line rotation. 632 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: Avery being down really kind of hampering the efforts by 633 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: this coaching staff to make him a two position type player. 634 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Is it? We talked so much about the secondary and 635 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: guys being able to move up and play defensive back 636 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: or safety or even move into a linebacker type role 637 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: in this Steve Wilkes defense, But Jenard Avery sounds like 638 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: they've got some other things that they like him to 639 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: be doing, and him sitting on the sideline right now 640 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: unfortunately not helping that. Cause. Yeah, I mean, I think 641 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: with what we've saw seen defensively, I don't know if 642 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm leaping day conclusions here, but its just I would 643 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: envision him more in that pass rushing kind of mold 644 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: from how we've seen the linebackers. Uh use so far, 645 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of four to five UH defensive looks, whether 646 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: be with a slot corner or three three safeties, so 647 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: it I do think they want to take advantage of 648 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: what he is really really good at, and that's getting 649 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: to the pastor. And I think there were some times 650 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: last year where he came in so shot out of 651 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: a cannon that you thought for a second, like, was 652 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: that Miles? Like No, No, No, that was Genard Avery, 653 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: Like because you saw the five on the one side 654 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: of the erge, he thought it was Miles, But no, 655 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: that's Genard Avery. Because when he times it correctly, he 656 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: looks like any other any of some of the best 657 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: pass rushers out there. And I think that's where he 658 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: can be used best. And we'll see how he mixes 659 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: in once he gets healthy. Some of the most enjoyable 660 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: UH snaps in this camp so far, especially the first 661 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: day of HADS, was just getting to watch Jennard off 662 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: the snap and watching the battle against whichever right tackle 663 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: was matched up against him, because he's so quick, and 664 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: once you get down to field level and really see 665 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: it up close, it really blows you away with how 666 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: quick and how effective he is with his speed rush moves, 667 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: and you know we're not talking von Miller here, but 668 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: in a sub package and as a as a rush 669 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: end who can also play linebacker if you want to, 670 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, mix him coverages up. Let's say, you know, 671 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: you want to run some type of zone blitz or 672 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: something where you're gonna send an extra man off off 673 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: the opposite side and then you won't actually roll him back. 674 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: But he's showing as if he's going to rush. Well, 675 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: he's got the capability to do that because he's athletic enough. 676 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: So I think that's where he becomes even more valuable 677 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: because you know, over time, you're gonna realize, yeah, he 678 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: can get to the passer. We have to worry about him. 679 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: But what if we're worried about him and something comes 680 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: from the other side that we're not paying attention to 681 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: because we're more worried about fifty five than we are 682 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: about this corner blitz or whatever might happen. That's when 683 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: he really really becomes even more valuable to you. And 684 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: I think that's something that you work on at this 685 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: time of year. So him not being on the field 686 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: right now is a little bit of a bummer, but 687 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: as long as it's not serious, it's only something that 688 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna worry about for a couple of days. And 689 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I do think he still brings a lot of value 690 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: to this team. All right, that's today's sound bites section. 691 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Final thoughts from you guys. We have a player day 692 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: off tomorrow, not a day off for us. It's our 693 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: chance to get caught up on the speak yourself. I'm 694 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: not coming in. Gribble gets a little power now, all 695 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Gribbles take him the day. I'll be working. 696 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm just not coming to Burrey. I don't need I 697 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: don't need to enter this zip code tomorrow for my 698 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: own for for a mental health day. I mean, I mean, 699 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: we've we've got the internet, we've got computers. Are you 700 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: staying home to I will be working remotely as well, 701 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: but I'll be locked in I gotta show tomorrow. That's 702 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: not gonna happen, all right. So anyways, Uh, it's gonna 703 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: be working on Tuesday, despite the fact that the players 704 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: are off. Coaching staff will be here and I would 705 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: assume that John Dorsey might be bringing in some guys 706 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: for some looks. Um that's usually what happens on those 707 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: days off. But final thoughts on the first five days. 708 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a game ball? If you could give 709 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: a game ball the one player through five days, who 710 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: would you give it to? I give it to Nick 711 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: chebb Um. He's he's had an unusual responsibility of kind 712 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: of carrying the load for the running backs because two 713 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: of his very talented teammates have not been there for 714 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: the majority of it due to injury. That is, you know, 715 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Cream Hunting, Duke Johnson. Um. They welcomed in ran you know, 716 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: not read a late addition in Austin Noulette, Sorry a 717 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: j Ulette Um, who has taken considerable anounce amount of 718 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: snaps just because they need the bodies. And and meanwhile, 719 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: you know Nick has you know, led the way shoulder 720 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: the load. And you're never gonna hear him complain about it, 721 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, he said the other day he just has 722 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: to mentally adjust as he goes out there and knows 723 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna get more reps. And he's played well, you 724 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: know it's he sometimes rees that hasn't been lanes for 725 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: him to run through. Um, but you know he's executed. 726 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he scored on a screen past today. He's 727 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: scored on a few touchdown runs or runs that might 728 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: have turned into touchdowns. And every day he Freddy talks 729 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: about guys you know who are the same every day. 730 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: That is Nick Chubb to a t and I think 731 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: he's probably been one of the best, if not the 732 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: best player on the team, at least offensively through five 733 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: days at camp. Myles Garrett, he's been awesome. Yeah like that. 734 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: It's just the first step when he it's when he 735 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: decides he wants to get to the quarterback on that play. 736 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: He's he's usually doing it, and I like that he's Uh, 737 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: they're diversifying his spots on the on the defensive line, 738 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: He's doing it from outsides, and it's it stinks because 739 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: it's training camp. And when he does it, then the 740 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: focus goes on, well, what's wrong with the Browns tackles 741 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: that I have a hard time getting there because I 742 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: think I watched Myles Garrett and I don't see many 743 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: players like him on this field or many other fields. 744 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: I just think he he has it in his mind 745 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: that he wants that he's disappointed by thirteen and a 746 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: half sacks from last year. Uh, and I think he 747 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: wants he knows he's in a situation where the supporting 748 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: cast is not going to be much better than it 749 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: is this year for him. He needs to he he 750 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: wants to bring in I think twenty is a sacks 751 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: as a goal for him. He he wasn't happy about 752 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: his top one Hunter Ray either of forty nine, so 753 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: he said, I'll never be lower than that. So higher lower, Yeah, exactly, 754 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: And I would think based on what we've seen through 755 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: five days, that's probably going to be the case. He's 756 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: not going to be to stay healthy, lock in for 757 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: sixteen games. I think he's he's in a real good 758 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: spot both from a defensive tackle and and the guy 759 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: on the other Saturday Viavern and we're seeing that already. Uh. 760 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: And I just the one thing I do hope for 761 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson's sake, know that there is light at the 762 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: end of the tunnel. You can you can get to 763 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: this Redskins preseason game and Myles Garrett will not be there. Yeah. 764 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: I'll give Greg Greg some credit to He had a 765 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: couple of nice blocks on Miles today, um ones where 766 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: people thought he was holding because he just had a 767 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: good grip on it. It wasn't a hold, he just 768 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: he had good positioning, kept his feet moving everything else. 769 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Um And I also give Freddie some credit for answering 770 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: that question correctly today and saying that I expect Miles 771 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: to be there. It's not Greg's a good football player 772 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: and Miles is a good football player. They've had good competition. 773 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: I expect Miles to be in the in the defensive 774 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: or in the in the offensive backfield near the quarterback, 775 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: because that's the type of player he is. So I agree. 776 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I think I think they're perfectly fine left tackle. All right, well, 777 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: you to enjoy your mental health day tomorrow. We'll be 778 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: back with you on Wednesday, Day six, and one would 779 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: assume we'll be in pads and continue to be in 780 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: pads as we work our way to Saturday's Orange and 781 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: Brown scrimmage down at the stadium starting at four o'clock. Gentlemen, 782 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again on Wednesday. For Andrew Gribble, 783 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: for Nick Shook, I'm Jason Gibbs. This is the best 784 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: podcast available downloaded today, where you get your podcasts, or 785 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: log on Cleveland Browns dot com.