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Speaker 1: our Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt McShay, whose

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Speaker 1: work we often reference here on the show. He of

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Speaker 1: course works for ESPN, their draft analyst. He has put

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Speaker 1: out his tears um and you'll see on here what

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Speaker 1: we usually talk about. You know, there's twelve, fifteen, sometimes

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Speaker 1: as many as eighteen guys who are quote unquote Tier

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Speaker 1: any year. They come out their first round grade type guys.

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Speaker 1: And then you get that second tiers maybe a little

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Speaker 1: so the draft breaks down in the in the tiers um,

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Speaker 1: and so you'll see guys who are in technically in

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Speaker 1: but he's a tier two guys. The way it goes,

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Speaker 1: back to the brilliance of Kevin Colbert and some of

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Speaker 1: these other teams like New England and Seattle that consistently

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Speaker 1: one guy Minca Fitzpatrick was a Tier one guy that

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Speaker 1: they got it at cheaper price. You can love him,

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Speaker 1: don't have a chance to draft him. Heyward was J. J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt was a Tier one guy when he came out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loved him. The Steelers loved him. Doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to get him. It's not hard

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Speaker 1: to love, right, right right. You love those guys, but

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Speaker 1: his Tier one is Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, all by himself.

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Speaker 1: Well he did, Okay, that makes sense. He's a special player.

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Speaker 1: He considers Tier one a great agreed of ninety five

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Speaker 1: so he has he has Lawrence with a ninety seven grade.

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Speaker 1: sante Age Samuel jr. Att. Do you think the Steelers

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Speaker 1: he would understand play action, all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in him. And again the traits are through

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Speaker 1: second round with the Steelers. I think he needs time,

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Speaker 1: this next? Like ten players? Are you gonna um? Now?

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Speaker 1: But Creed Humphrey at fifty three, that's your favorite. That's

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Speaker 1: your first center, by the way, folks. Yeah, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: the same Ron del Moore at eight. It depends on

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Speaker 1: He's we haven't talked a lot about him yet, impressive

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Speaker 1: on the hoof and getting better. He's he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a guy that gets drafted, probably not by the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: a good raven. It would be a good raven. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sixties Andre Cisco, he's tested really well. He's kind of

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Speaker 1: a boomer. Bus. Get another defensive back that gets his

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Speaker 1: hands on the football. Sixty one Landon Dickerson you get

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Speaker 1: in a second round? Yeah, and I mean again, three

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Speaker 1: centers right there in that fifty five range, that where

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Speaker 1: Sixty two Eric Stokes. There's a really good centers available

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Speaker 1: choice of them. Sixty two Eric Stokes at cornerback in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: than tape. And then sixty three is Alex Leatherwood good

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Speaker 1: There's forty four prospects in Tier six, so the Steelers

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Tier six Aaron Robinson, Uh, whyatt Davis, Chris

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter at A North Carolina. They're running bea because

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Speaker 1: Collins at seventy two, Paulson and debut at seventy three.

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Speaker 1: J to Fele at seventy four, Joseph Asa at seventy five,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Eskridge at seventy six, Marco Wilson at seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: He's a riser after the work. Wasn't a household name.

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Speaker 1: Now he's starting to pick up some steam. Rashad Weaver

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Speaker 1: had a pit at seventy eight, Aleene McNeil at seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Banks to guard at a Notre Dame at eighty,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Raddin's all the way down to eighty one. He's

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Speaker 1: another one who wouldn't be shocked if he was the

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Speaker 1: chief first round pick, right. Yeah. Robert Rochelle out of

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Speaker 1: Central Arkansas at eighty two, Richard Leconte, the safety out

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Speaker 1: of Georgia at eighty three, Jalen Twyman at eighty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of pick guys there, James Hudson, the offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle to Cincinnati at eighty five, ver Mon Dave Stephenson

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Speaker 1: at eighty six, Trill Williams at eighty seven, osa O

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Speaker 1: dig AZOOA at eighty eight. Remember the Steele is pick

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Speaker 1: eighty seven. So this again. This is Kellen Mond at

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Speaker 1: eighty nine, Kenneth Gamewell at ninety, Brevin Jordan at nine one,

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Speaker 1: Shy Smith, the wide receiver out of South Carolina at

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Speaker 1: DJ Daniel uh the cornerback at the Georgia at ninety three,

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Speaker 1: Richie Grant, the safety at of Central Florida att yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kay Johnson at Pete Warner at ninety six. I took

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Speaker 1: him in the third round of my draft the other day,

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Speaker 1: and people, there's no way he lasts that long inside

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Speaker 1: linebacker draft. How many are gonna get drafted? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean if six or seven or eight or off the board,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd be really happy draft pick. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think you could be the sick Yeah. Or look at

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Speaker 1: these next guys here, Trey Smith probably not going to

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Speaker 1: be that guy guarded Tennessee, Spencer Brown, Hunter Long at

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. They may get two people off this list

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Speaker 1: and four yeah, because you can pick again at once

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Speaker 1: one uh Diane Brown, the wide you see right in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina like him. Uh Ham's nasaal Deine the safety

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Speaker 1: out of Florida or Florida State. I should say at

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Speaker 1: one oh one, Davian Nixon at one o two, defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle out of Iowa. Josh Meyers the center out of Ohio,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State at one oh three, take him. I'll take

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Speaker 1: him with a hunter third pick overall. Yeah. Uh. Tyler

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Speaker 1: Shelvin at uh one oh four. I'm really curiously where

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Speaker 1: he goes about Baron Browning down at one oh five.

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Speaker 1: Both those guys, both of those linebackers. Kyle Trask at

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Speaker 1: one oh six, Sage Surratt at one oh seven. Again,

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Speaker 1: I bet the Steelers get four names added that if

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Speaker 1: we've listed in this segment, good chance, yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: mean they're what they're looking for. Centers. Let's put this way.

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Speaker 1: There were I've got his list here, how many guys

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Speaker 1: were where? But he has five seven quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: on that they're not gonna they're not gonna take one

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Speaker 1: of that. I bet there's fifteen receivers. Uh, there are

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Speaker 1: four eight. They're not gonna take one of those. Whole

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Speaker 1: rounds quarterbacks and receivers, um, they're not gonna take. I

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Speaker 1: bet there's six to seven or there's to those. That's

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Speaker 1: a whole round of players at least they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be picking from. They probably won't take a safety. There's

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Speaker 1: four those or no, I'm sorry, seven of those. Um,

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Speaker 1: are they going to take its height end? Four? I

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Speaker 1: mean Hunter Long was mentioned tight ends. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: take on the right price. But they're not going to

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Speaker 1: take a guard. There's six of those, so yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: probably you're probably gonna get four of those guys. And

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Speaker 1: how many teams? How many teams are gonna draft the center?

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Speaker 1: You know, inside linebackers are valued differently by all teams,

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Speaker 1: but how many teams have a true inside linebacker need?

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Speaker 1: Maybe six seven? But there's ten on that list, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, so they're gonna get You're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: second round type guy in the third or third you know,

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Speaker 1: in the fourth. I mean that's the thing people don't

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Speaker 1: realize is like a list like this is great, but

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Speaker 1: every room, every building has their own lists, their own list,

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Speaker 1: and they prioritize their own needs. Yeah, you know, if

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Speaker 1: if we're doing this for a different there's seventeen corners

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Speaker 1: on that list. Yeah, right, exactly, I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: doing this list for a different. If we're doing this

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Speaker 1: radio show for a different team, we're saying, well, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers won't take a D tackle. We'll get our D tackle,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, and Steelers can look at and say,

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Speaker 1: twenty teams in the league don't want a center, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's teams that could use them, but you

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Speaker 1: only play one. You only have one. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: an easy one to figure out who needs them? Who

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Speaker 1: doesn't like tackle where you have to have three or

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Speaker 1: four in your roster right right? And some of those

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Speaker 1: guys can play guard too. But we did talk I

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Speaker 1: mean defensive end. There there are ten defensive ends on

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Speaker 1: that list. Steelers probably aren't taking any of those, right

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Speaker 1: if the price is right. So you're talking about almost

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Speaker 1: twenty defensive lineman. They're not gonna take that list, aren't.

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Speaker 1: Aren't for the Steelers and premium picks they one or

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Speaker 1: two picks, yep. And we'll do that in our next segment,

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Speaker 1: we'll do our next mock draft, and we'll keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind. So for my partner Matt Williamson I Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 1: we want to thank Jacob back for keeping us on

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Speaker 1: the air, and we want to thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio