Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, September tenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show, where we're probably talking
Speaker 1: too much about action. Ron Sims, Me and your man
Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones,
Speaker 1: and we are officially through week one. Hopefully it was
Speaker 1: a positive and prosperous week one for a lot of
Speaker 1: you out there. Not a lot of passing yards across
Speaker 1: the week to be seen, which means receivers tight end
Speaker 1: had a rough go of it. It was a pretty
Speaker 1: good week though for running backs across the board as well,
Speaker 1: so that means we can go start to turn the
Speaker 1: page on week one and get into week two. Fellas,
Speaker 1: have we have we over I guess we're gonna overreact
Speaker 1: a little bit?
Speaker 2: Have we overreacted to enough things?
Speaker 1: Lakwan A, We are we back on even keel now
Speaker 1: after week one and ready to turn the page.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done to overreact, and I'm kind of more
Speaker 3: so looking to the edited next week.
Speaker 4: But I just want to get off my chest real quick.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins hype, can we just were down? Let me see
Speaker 3: him play four more games before I start overreacting.
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna overreact immediately.
Speaker 2: Do it now.
Speaker 1: I look, I I'm willing to say that I was
Speaker 1: wrong on this one. Like the dal was a healthy scratch,
Speaker 1: uh and JK Dobbins just completely eight becus Edwards was
Speaker 1: there in mud was kind of.
Speaker 4: Wet jeans, running with wet jeans on.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, like we were sort of told.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah told us to watch out for JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: And generally when DJ speaks, I listened. This time, I
Speaker 1: decided to go on my own and I've learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: I've learned my lesson. Daniel Jeremiah says, I'm going to
Speaker 1: believe it.
Speaker 5: Tweeted me that.
Speaker 6: JK looked slow and it has to be because he
Speaker 6: got chased down on that one long run he had.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, this is his first NFL game since
Speaker 6: tearing his achilles, Like, ye, I imagine he is going
Speaker 6: to get better conditioned and stuff as.
Speaker 2: He keeps playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna get walked down. It's probably gonna happen
Speaker 1: again before he gets into full shape.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some guys though, who disappointed and
Speaker 1: whether or not we're panicked or we are going to
Speaker 1: preach patients on. Some of these guys also give you
Speaker 1: some deep dive waiver wire options. We had more of
Speaker 1: a waiver wire show on Mondays, and go back and
Speaker 1: check that out. And since we are adding people, we
Speaker 1: have to save goodbye to people. So who is somebody
Speaker 1: we can say goodbye to? But let's go start with
Speaker 1: a little bit of Panic or Patience. I got four
Speaker 1: guys here who were underwhelming, to say the least. Some
Speaker 1: of these may or may not have come from my
Speaker 1: own rosters. This might be completely self serving, but this
Speaker 1: is what we're going to do. So let's start Floria
Speaker 1: with Terry McLaurin, who went a good long while in
Speaker 1: that game on Sunday before he even got his first.
Speaker 1: By the time the day was over, he had two
Speaker 1: catches for a grand total of seventeen yards.
Speaker 2: Panic or Patients with Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm going to be very boring this segment,
Speaker 6: but I'm practicing patients here. I don't love the four
Speaker 6: targets like that. I wish was higher, but he did
Speaker 6: lead them in routes the commanders were They did run
Speaker 6: very fast paced offense, which I love. They actually ran
Speaker 6: the fastest paced offense in Week one, but it was
Speaker 6: a lot of short stuff and it seemed like they
Speaker 6: didn't want to put too much on Jaden Daniel's plate
Speaker 6: in his first game playing, so I kind.
Speaker 5: Of I get that.
Speaker 6: Also, Terry had one downfield where Jaden just he was
Speaker 6: open and Jayden just put a little too much air
Speaker 6: under it. If they connect on that, we're talking about
Speaker 6: that being a long touchdown. I know those if some
Speaker 6: butts only count in horseshoes and not in fantasy football,
Speaker 6: but opportunity is what matters, and he had the chance
Speaker 6: to make a big play there. I do think Terry.
Speaker 5: Will get more utilized.
Speaker 6: The only thing I hate, and this is something that
Speaker 6: Marcus you did a good job of highlighting in the preseason,
Speaker 6: he was tethered to the left side. Cliff Kingsbury continues
Speaker 6: to have no imagination when it comes to wide receiver
Speaker 6: one usage.
Speaker 1: I was really keeping an eye on that right because
Speaker 1: that was the thing that some of the Beat reporters
Speaker 1: mentioned that it looked like they were gonna.
Speaker 2: Move him around from side to side.
Speaker 1: But when it came down to it, I think he
Speaker 1: played all but like four snaps on the left side
Speaker 1: of the formation. So Cliff Kingsbury apparently whatever he thought
Speaker 1: up in practice, decided that that wasn't going to work.
Speaker 2: So we'll see if that changes.
Speaker 1: But that was definitely a frustrating development for Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 4: Yep, his routes were on the left side. Not great,
Speaker 4: Bob going one on the right.
Speaker 2: That was really disappointing.
Speaker 1: Since we're speaking of past catchers who were frustrating and disappointing.
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman maybe not as bad as McLaurin. He had
Speaker 1: four catches for thirty one yards, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of the Alec Pierce Ashton Doolan Show with Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: on Sunday, So Patients or Panic or Patients LaQuan with
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman.
Speaker 4: I'mna be patient, man.
Speaker 3: This is week one, and Anthony Richardson was going out there,
Speaker 3: Aaron the ball out having fun using his feet. It's
Speaker 3: one of those things where you just have to understand
Speaker 3: maybe this is how the game just crumbled out, you know,
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, Michael Pittman is still
Speaker 3: that number one wide receiver that he could rely on.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that you can hit downfield,
Speaker 3: intermediate or even close to the line of scrimmage as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel as though Michael Pittman's are all
Speaker 3: around wide receiver. And it's week one, people, Let's not panic,
Speaker 3: let's buckle up. We're here for week two, and I
Speaker 3: think they get it together in week two.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sort of hoping though, because you mentioned
Speaker 1: Pittman is gonna be a guy who sort of runs
Speaker 1: a lot of his routes in the intermediate part of
Speaker 1: the field. I don't want Anthony Richardson to get Will
Speaker 1: levis Idis, which for Will levis the intermediate part of
Speaker 1: the field is lava like. He just doesn't It's either
Speaker 1: deep or it's short, that's all there is to it.
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping we don't sort of get this with
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson where he's either you know, bombs away to
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce or he's like taking off to run or
Speaker 1: maybe dumping it off underneath.
Speaker 2: I hope that he remembers that Michael Pittman is there.
Speaker 1: They seem to have a good connection last year, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chalk this up to just this being a
Speaker 1: sort of one week thing.
Speaker 6: He is the most worried about on this list really
Speaker 6: because I Anthony Richardson is going to have a lot
Speaker 6: of games like this, I think, where he's not completing
Speaker 6: a lot of passes and it comes down like last
Speaker 6: year his completion percentage was one of the worst in football.
Speaker 5: This this first game it was less than fifty percent.
Speaker 6: I think they'll be he's gonna air it out deep
Speaker 6: and he's gonna run, and that works for him and
Speaker 6: for this offense. I'm not convinced it works necessarily. For
Speaker 6: I love Pittman in real life, I avoided him in
Speaker 6: fantasy because I had concerns over like is he gonna
Speaker 6: get enough volume?
Speaker 5: I know the volume was there, but like you said,
Speaker 5: the short intermediate passes, isn't the strength of the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I started boding just because I feel like he's the
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver there and at some point they're
Speaker 1: just going to try to force the ball to him.
Speaker 2: So that was sort of the thing.
Speaker 1: But like I said on Monday, maybe I was a
Speaker 1: year too soon on Alec Pearce.
Speaker 2: So we will find out about that, all right.
Speaker 1: Florio backsee for Dalton Kincaid. I talked about him yesterday.
Speaker 1: I said on yesterday's show that I was not panicked
Speaker 1: about him, just the was it the one catch for
Speaker 1: eleven yards on a pair of targets?
Speaker 2: That was it for Kinkaid.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know how you're going to rule
Speaker 1: on this one, But panic or patients for the number
Speaker 1: one tight end in Buffalo.
Speaker 6: Patients patients for everyone, because it's one game and if
Speaker 6: the player has a done in week eight, we're not
Speaker 6: viewing it under a microscope like we are in week one.
Speaker 5: But especially for Kincaid, he played eighty eight percent of
Speaker 5: the snaps. He ran the second most routes on the Bills.
Speaker 5: Half of his or forty one percent, just under half
Speaker 5: of his routes came from the slot, which is exactly
Speaker 5: what we wanted for Dalton Kincaid and what I like
Speaker 5: even more. The first two drives, the Bills kind of
Speaker 5: came out and they played their Shenanigans like they did
Speaker 5: early last year, where Kincaid wasn't consistently on the field
Speaker 5: than Dawson Knox was. And then the Bills went down
Speaker 5: two scores and they were like, let's get dal Kin
Speaker 5: Kaid and not take him off the field at all,
Speaker 5: and the Bills offense were clicking ever since. So I
Speaker 5: think much better days are ahead for dalon Kin kid.
Speaker 5: I'm not worried at all.
Speaker 6: In fact, if the person who hasn't is worried, I'd
Speaker 6: be trying to trade for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would. I would take the temperature
Speaker 1: see if maybe you can get him out. I'm not
Speaker 1: at all worried about him. I just was frustrated because
Speaker 1: I had him, and I thought more things were gonna
Speaker 1: happen and they just didn't. But I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be all right there this one though, Lakwan, we might
Speaker 1: we might need to have a conversation. We might have
Speaker 1: just start a dialogue.
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1: The Browns were just bad all around offensively against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper with two catches for sixteen yards.
Speaker 3: Panic or patience, I'm panicking, man. I mean Deshaun Watson
Speaker 3: did not look good. And I understand that O line
Speaker 3: is missing their two starting tackles, which again, everybody has
Speaker 3: injuries on.
Speaker 5: An O line.
Speaker 3: Hello Rams fan here, but uh, he just did not
Speaker 3: look good out there, and Amari Cooper just his body
Speaker 3: language just looks like he's over it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like it's one of those situations, you know, where
Speaker 3: we took him in the drafts where we're thinking he
Speaker 3: will be that strong wide receiver three for us to
Speaker 3: make our room better. But like, if the quarterback position
Speaker 3: does not look good this early and the dude only
Speaker 3: has played what this is his thirteenth game, now, it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not too sure if I'm here for a slow
Speaker 3: walk for Watson to get up to speed, for Amari
Speaker 3: Cooper to really be putting enough fantasy points every Sunday
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm freaked out about a Mark Baver legitimately
Speaker 1: because the Browns look that bad because Deshaun Watson hasn't
Speaker 1: given us.
Speaker 2: He hasn't given us any hope.
Speaker 1: Right, if there were games in the past where you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I see this thing coming together, Like you know,
Speaker 1: there are moments like we haven't gotten any flashes of
Speaker 1: anything out of Deshaun Watson and so like that, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see how the offensive line comes together with the injuries.
Speaker 2: But here is they had all off season.
Speaker 1: To prepare for, you know, having they had all I
Speaker 1: had a lot of time to have the backup offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and this is the product they put out. I am
Speaker 1: freaked the f Outmark Cooper right now, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going back and I'm like, I drafted him in
Speaker 1: more places than I remember.
Speaker 2: I don't love this. I do that I have a
Speaker 2: ton of Cooper.
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm trying to convince myself. Uh, he had a
Speaker 6: lot of opportunities in Week one. Love to see that,
Speaker 6: but even more they get the Jags, the Giants, the Raiders,
Speaker 6: the Commanders the next.
Speaker 5: Moment, like a right, it's not going to be the
Speaker 5: Cowboys defense every week.
Speaker 2: All right, that's the same line.
Speaker 5: That's all I can give you.
Speaker 1: Silver linings and the nine targets. I mean he actually
Speaker 1: led the team in targets, so I mean that part
Speaker 1: is encouraging. But I don't need this to be a
Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta Falcons, like a whole bunch of uncatchable
Speaker 1: target situation.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 5: He did have one long one go right through the
Speaker 5: bread basket. It was a little bit too out in front.
Speaker 4: But it's just in chemistry, man, you can't you can't
Speaker 4: throw a good ball and then the next four plays.
Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm hoping I'm hoping that the schedule
Speaker 1: lightning up will help, but.
Speaker 2: I'm really, really really worried. For sure.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a break and then come back and
Speaker 1: talk about some deep dive waiver wire options plus folks
Speaker 1: that you can probably put back into the free agent pool.
Speaker 1: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. So on
Speaker 1: Monday we talked about the waiver Wire. You can go
Speaker 1: back and check out that show, or you can go
Speaker 1: to NFL dot com slash waiver wire and get a
Speaker 1: rundown on a lot of guys that you can probably
Speaker 1: take some shots at in free agency. This week, we're
Speaker 1: going deep dive though the folks that you know if
Speaker 1: you're playing in deeper leagues, you know those leagues where you're.
Speaker 2: Like that guys are already going and murdery.
Speaker 1: Well, then we're gonna give you some options for guys
Speaker 1: who probably aren't gone in your league. Laquand who should
Speaker 1: folks be diving a little bit deeper for this week?
Speaker 4: So it's a Green Bay Packer running back Emmanuel wilson Man.
Speaker 4: He's the back of the Jacob Josh Jacobs right now.
Speaker 4: He looked really good. Half of his runs went for
Speaker 4: ten plus yards, so he had shown some jews, some
Speaker 4: explosiveness and I know Marshan Lloyd is there said to
Speaker 4: be the backup, but right now and looking like Emmanuel
Speaker 4: Wilson has carved out some type of role for him
Speaker 4: to be on the field at times, you know where
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs needs a little breath. I mean Jacobs to me,
Speaker 4: he kind of looked like he was slow running in
Speaker 4: mud at times, even though he did have over eighty
Speaker 4: yards and he had a healthy five point zero plus
Speaker 4: yarch per carry. I just feel as though Emmanuel Wilson
Speaker 4: he will be that bang, that thunder that they need
Speaker 4: to punch where he might bust one of those runs
Speaker 4: off and take it to the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think in the first half everybody
Speaker 1: was kind of getting there. Josh Jacobs jokes off because
Speaker 1: he did look slow in the first half. Second half
Speaker 1: things started to kind of come together and he was
Speaker 1: much better after halftime.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But Emmanuel Wilson did look like he had some juice
Speaker 1: and looks like he could carve out a role. But
Speaker 1: also keep in mind Marshaun Lloyd was not available because
Speaker 1: of an injury too, so how that works when Lloyd
Speaker 1: is healthy.
Speaker 2: We don't quite know yet, all right.
Speaker 1: Elsewhere Florida, the Bucks had a good start to their season.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield looked great. You like one of their deeper
Speaker 1: pass catching options.
Speaker 5: There, Yeah, Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 6: And I know people might be like, yeah, he caught
Speaker 6: a touchdown, but he only had three targets. But what
Speaker 6: I care is he did not leave the fields like
Speaker 6: the Bucks went heavy three wide receiver set and it
Speaker 6: was Evans, Godwin and McMillan consistently as the three that
Speaker 6: were out there, and he played two thirds of his
Speaker 6: snaps out wide and a third in the slot. And
Speaker 6: that was my concern with him coming into the year
Speaker 6: was if they want to put Godwin in the slot more,
Speaker 6: will there be enough for McMillan.
Speaker 5: Will they clearly trust.
Speaker 6: Him out wide on a Bucks team that I is
Speaker 6: going to throw the ball a good amount this season,
Speaker 6: Like next week they play the Lions in Detroit. That
Speaker 6: could easily become a high scoring affair as.
Speaker 5: The Bucks trying to match points with the Lions offense.
Speaker 5: So McMillan not someone that I'm confident enough to.
Speaker 6: Start just yet, But I like the talent and I
Speaker 6: like the opportunity, and if I'm in a deeper league,
Speaker 6: that's kind of what I want to take notice of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Liam Cohen, another Sean mcvaigh disciple, looks like
Speaker 1: he wants to be very aggressive. They said they want
Speaker 1: to be explosive through one week. That certainly seemed to
Speaker 1: be the case. So McMillan could have some long term
Speaker 1: value on a lot of fantasy rosters. I keep saying,
Speaker 1: maybe I was a year two early on Alec Pierce,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to right the wrong here and go
Speaker 1: and adding Pierce. Here's the thing, I think I've plan
Speaker 1: of played Colts receiver roulette because I've drafted some of
Speaker 1: Josh Downs, I've drafted some ad and I Mitchell. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Alec Pierce. One of these has got
Speaker 1: a hit, right, one of these has got hit. But
Speaker 1: what we saw, at least on Sunday, is that when
Speaker 1: the Colts want to take some shots downfield, it appears
Speaker 1: that Pierce is going to be the option of choice.
Speaker 1: I think they did take a couple of shots to Mitchell.
Speaker 1: We'll see what Downs's role is when he's healthy and
Speaker 1: ready to go. But Anthony Richardson is, he's got the
Speaker 1: launch codes and he's not afraid to use him. Alec
Speaker 1: Pierce could have some some really good value. Definitely more
Speaker 1: of a better and best ball guy. But I think
Speaker 1: if you're in a deeper league and looking for ceiling plays,
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is a nice option for a lot of
Speaker 1: fantasy managers there. So if we're adding players, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got to be dropping players. Lakwan, who should we
Speaker 1: be saying goodbye to this week?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna rip the band aid off. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be drafting DeAndre Hopkins. I've drafted him late in drafts
Speaker 3: and he is dealing with an MCL knee injury right now,
Speaker 3: where he's already said he's going to be playing through that,
Speaker 3: and he was limited snaps this week last week, so
Speaker 3: it's like more so ran seven routes. We might be
Speaker 3: looking at a limited DeAndre Hopkins all season long. So
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna rip the band aid off now and
Speaker 3: grab one of these hot you know, wide receiver waiver
Speaker 3: wires to just kind of take the place where I
Speaker 3: don't have to deal with the headache, you know, week
Speaker 3: to week. I honestly hate doing it. It looks disgusting
Speaker 3: to have him on the waiver wire, but kind of
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, porn went out from Nuke. Didn't think you'd be
Speaker 2: here this soon. I thought maybe it happened this year.
Speaker 2: Didn't think it happened this soon. But here we are, Florida.
Speaker 1: This one also sort of hurts a little bit. I
Speaker 1: mean it's early, so it's not gonna hurt as bad.
Speaker 2: Wow, I just saw this. I was not anticipating we'd
Speaker 2: be here this soon, but here we are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, I think I said on yesterday's show,
Speaker 6: I'm waving the white flag when it comes to the
Speaker 6: Chargers running back. So I was big on Gus Edwards
Speaker 6: and Kamani Videl two swings, two misses because you look
Speaker 6: at not just what JK. Dobbins did, but the whole situation.
Speaker 5: As a whole. Kamani Videl was a healthy scratch. Then JK.
Speaker 6: Dobbins plays sixty percent of the snaps and not even
Speaker 6: close production wise, runs away with it over Gus Edwards,
Speaker 6: who just looked like the bus looked like it was
Speaker 6: stuck in mud man and it couldn't get going. And
Speaker 6: this was Dobbin's first game back That's the crazy part
Speaker 6: is like, as he gets more acclimated and back further
Speaker 6: further from this injury, I think it's very possible that
Speaker 6: he could get more and more of a workload. So
Speaker 6: to me, this hurts to say, but it's why I
Speaker 6: take shots on guys like this, because if they don't
Speaker 6: work out early, you know it, and you know you
Speaker 6: could throw them back on. And to me, maybe I'm
Speaker 6: early in this, but I think the only way Videll
Speaker 6: gets active and gets active actually used is if Dobbins
Speaker 6: or Edwards gets hurt.
Speaker 5: And I I'm not rooting for that. I know it's
Speaker 5: very possible with these.
Speaker 6: Two, but I'm not gonna hold someone on my bench
Speaker 6: in hopes that down the road they might get hurt.
Speaker 6: If they get hurt, I will jump I will jump
Speaker 6: back on Bedell. But until we see it, I think
Speaker 6: it's time to say this is Dobbin's backfields.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the healthy scratch part is the part that's disturbing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, we're gonna like keep you and
Speaker 1: lets you run special teams or something like that. Like
Speaker 1: they were just like, hey man, we just you can
Speaker 1: sit this one out. That's a little bit concerning if
Speaker 1: you had a deeper league, maybe hang on to him.
Speaker 1: But I think if you're in a shallower league, then
Speaker 1: he should.
Speaker 2: Be back on the waiver wire for sure.
Speaker 1: For me, it's Cuba Hubbard. I was intrigued by the possibility.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of the Panthers offense in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. I do not like the reality of the
Speaker 1: Panthers offense in twenty twenty four. They were awful in
Speaker 1: about every way imaginable. Cuba Hubbard was actually the lead
Speaker 1: back in terms of opportunities this past week against the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, it meant nothing. They could not move
Speaker 1: the ball. He had six carries for fourteen yards. He
Speaker 1: did not have a single target in the game. Bryce
Speaker 1: Young could not do anything in the passing game. The
Speaker 1: Panthers were awful, and it just doesn't look like they've
Speaker 1: improved at all. And it looks like it's going to
Speaker 1: be the same this year as last year. They're not
Speaker 1: going to run the ball well, And to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, it makes me a little bit nervous about
Speaker 1: all my shares of Jonathan Brooks. But we will cross
Speaker 1: that bridge when we get to it in about a month.
Speaker 1: Or so he hopefully is the life saver, but for
Speaker 1: now it's Cuba Hubbard. Thank you for your service. It's
Speaker 1: been real. I am moving on, and I suggest that
Speaker 1: a lot of other people move on as well. Oh
Speaker 1: not great at all anyway. So there you go.
Speaker 2: That's our Tuesday look at things around the league.
Speaker 1: Were back with you on Wednesday as we start to
Speaker 1: really turn the page and look ahead as to what
Speaker 1: is upcoming in week two. But in the meantime, that'll
Speaker 1: do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again tomorrow.
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