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Speaker 1: got one of the illest basketball players, one of the
Speaker 1: best people alive. And he's been doing movies. I've seen
Speaker 1: him in What's the movie was in? Um? What Adam
Speaker 1: salm Adam sald of Money was one of the movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's make some so so so. The crazy thing is
Speaker 1: you're one of these people that transition, meaning you actually
Speaker 1: had a luxurious NBA career and then you actually transition
Speaker 1: to do other things. How did you come up with that? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from l A, so Okay, Uh may area.
Speaker 1: We talked about college. Um, but you know, born and
Speaker 1: res in led South Central and then I went to
Speaker 1: private school and uh Sta Monica. So I always my
Speaker 1: mother always tell me, like, you know, have a backup
Speaker 1: play and have a backup plan. So I always wanted
Speaker 1: to like make movies and you know, tell stories and
Speaker 1: things like that, especially because you know, it was like
Speaker 1: the stories that kept me alive, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how that's how I got to I felt that's
Speaker 1: how I got to the NBA. You feel now nowadays
Speaker 1: the NBA it seems a little soft. It seems like
Speaker 1: like you know, back then, the Knicks had beef with
Speaker 1: the Balls, and we knew that when they when the
Speaker 1: Bulls came in town, we're gonna rough them off. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get roughed up. Like Downadays the NBA seems like
Speaker 1: if you like this is technical found, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not the best now. I mean yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: when you think about it, though, like the game got evolved, right,
Speaker 1: the game get way faster, and so you can't play
Speaker 1: like you did back in the day, right, can't be
Speaker 1: know Charles Oakleys, because then it wouldn't be no Lebron
Speaker 1: James and no, Kevin, like, you can't play. You can't
Speaker 1: play that way. So you know, I kind of came
Speaker 1: in at the late late stage of that with you know,
Speaker 1: dudes were still fighting like chunk them and all that
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but you gotta elbow back, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's like, you know, that's how
Speaker 1: you earn your respect. You feel what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it was more so like a tough thing or a
Speaker 1: respect thing. And you know, really it was like about
Speaker 1: the vets, you know, just like your older brother kind
Speaker 1: of like bullying you as a kid. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so you learn a lot through that.
Speaker 1: You feel you think you could could have survived in
Speaker 1: today's NBA. Oh yeah for something, because you think it's weaker. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can play right now because it's just more suited
Speaker 1: towards the game that you know I could play. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I can shoot, I can pass it,
Speaker 1: I can drive, you know, I can still defend. I
Speaker 1: can still and it's faster, so you're moving up and
Speaker 1: down the court and it's not a lot of contact.
Speaker 1: And so when I used when I played, you know,
Speaker 1: it was always like I had to playing a post
Speaker 1: a guard, a bigger guard, you know, play more than
Speaker 1: just being a point guard. And so now in today's there,
Speaker 1: I could probably just be a point guard and be
Speaker 1: cool with that. Are like a guard out there, Fat
Speaker 1: Joe had told me the other day, Right, I'm hanging
Speaker 1: out with Fat Joe, and Fat Joe says, Yo, being
Speaker 1: an athlete and being a radio personality is pretty much
Speaker 1: the same thing. And I'm like, Fat Joe, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I feel like you're retarded. And then
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, look, if your athlete, you canna
Speaker 1: wake up the next day. You'll play for Charlotte and
Speaker 1: then the next day being l a Clippers and then
Speaker 1: the next day And he's like that, So I didn't
Speaker 1: get it at first. Now, have you ever been traded
Speaker 1: to a place where where you didn't want to be? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's oh man, Uh so you
Speaker 1: never know. Look the code thing about it, dog is
Speaker 1: you never know you're getting traded because you see people
Speaker 1: get trade you like, damn, I got ain't it done?
Speaker 1: Like damn, that's suck up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And they're like, you don't never know you get traded
Speaker 1: until you're like, oh shick, like and uh, I was
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And so Coach Benney down Negro.
Speaker 1: After you know, we had just a Live City and
Speaker 1: All Star weekend. I was still kind of playing hurt
Speaker 1: Blake was still the Clippers. So Coach Benney down Negro
Speaker 1: was like, man, look you you you brought us this
Speaker 1: whole live city, this whole thing, like you know, like
Speaker 1: you've city. We're gonna, uh, We're gonna set you out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like let you kind
Speaker 1: of like, hell, you know your grandma done things like that.
Speaker 1: You know what you're going through, you feel I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna set you out. You know. They
Speaker 1: used the next couple of games on the road, let
Speaker 1: the young guys play because we feel like we got
Speaker 1: enough next year to like be able to like do something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, so you know, okay, see
Speaker 1: game coming. He's like, well, you know, I said I
Speaker 1: was gonna set you out, but you know, you know
Speaker 1: my playing, I'm like I don't, but like, damn dog,
Speaker 1: you just told me I was hurt to sit out.
Speaker 1: I played. So then the next game, we're in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and he's like, I'm thinking, like, all right, I
Speaker 1: played it, okay, see I'm gonna play. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: You're gonna sit out. And he was like, you don't
Speaker 1: even have to come out. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna come out. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to sit on the bench. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: to be hurt. I'm back in New Orleans, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I want to hear that. So I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's doing me a favorite man Like half time,
Speaker 1: come in, somebody like, yo, dog, you heard you getting trade.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, no, you're I'm just saying that. I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting the back, chilling wait for us to get
Speaker 1: on the plane. You feel me, ain't get nothing. I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting in the back, you know, stretching, watching the game,
Speaker 1: and I ain't hearing nothing. Hear nothing. Then now you
Speaker 1: know the game started rolling around after the game, and
Speaker 1: then people like yo, like you know, like so quiet
Speaker 1: and ship like, wait, so are you saying that your
Speaker 1: teammates new? You know, I don't think they knew. I
Speaker 1: don't even nobody no no that that at that time,
Speaker 1: the only people knew it was the team, right and
Speaker 1: the coach and so my teammates didn't know, and then
Speaker 1: a reporter saying something like yeah. Like the report was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta call your agent because they're trying to trade
Speaker 1: you to Cleveland and Cleveland and had Lebron was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't stand in and go somewhere else, you know what? No,
Speaker 1: not that, no, no, no, because they traded me in
Speaker 1: the number one pick, which was Kyrie Cleveland. Oh so
Speaker 1: that's how Cleveland got the number on pick. That's how
Speaker 1: they got Kyrie. Now I'm sitting in the locker room
Speaker 1: like all right, well ship, let me put on my ship.
Speaker 1: And the next you know, I'm like, man, I'm getting
Speaker 1: traded in my agent Like hell yeah. Now describe that.
Speaker 1: Describe how it is being like in one city one
Speaker 1: day and then the very next day you gotta go
Speaker 1: to another city. You gotta get along with people that
Speaker 1: you was just beefing with, right I mean? Or is
Speaker 1: that not really how the NBA? Sometimes sometimes I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, but you gotta you know, you gotta go
Speaker 1: to work with the same person. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It really like it ain't really know real beef, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like everybody really got no beef
Speaker 1: with each other, you know, but what's this guy now?
Speaker 1: Alonzo Ball? Is that because the very first day, right,
Speaker 1: it comes in the NBA and this guy comes straight
Speaker 1: up to him and it was like I forget what
Speaker 1: he did Beverley, And to me, it was like, that's
Speaker 1: like me welcome in a new artist hip hop. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: look nigga, you could you could get money, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be rough. How did you feel when you see
Speaker 1: that moment? Uh? I kind of liked it for Alonzo,
Speaker 1: you know, for him, it was just like now it's
Speaker 1: like automatically, that's what it is, Homy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So from he gonna get everybody best, you know,
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley gonna be Patrick be He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's how that's how he programmed. So it ain't no,
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna play nobody no different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And and you know, and and play that
Speaker 1: style no different. But with this rookie, you know, National TV.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's kind of like
Speaker 1: if I'm a rookie and I'm him, that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I like that. I want that because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: remember you, and I always remember that moment. So once
Speaker 1: I get the edge, I'm gonna kick your ass every time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm gonna dog you out
Speaker 1: once I get better than you, once I get stronger
Speaker 1: than you. Once you can't do that to me no more,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dog you out. So you know, it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of that ship make him want to work harder,
Speaker 1: because that's a measuring stick. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like day one, that's a measuring stick. Like he
Speaker 1: a dog, he a wolf, Like I gotta shake him off.
Speaker 1: But is that how the NBA used to be, like
Speaker 1: when you come into the league. If you yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my That's been always been my mentality. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think the younger kids is different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because you know, they're
Speaker 1: judged differently, you know what I mean. They're not judged
Speaker 1: by diving on the floors, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the heart and the hustle. It's more about the stats,
Speaker 1: to position and playing a role doing other things, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so because they're scoring a
Speaker 1: lot of points, it's more so like when you watch guys,
Speaker 1: everybody kind of playing in patterns, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's not a lot of isolation. It's not a
Speaker 1: lot of post uff and things like that. It's a
Speaker 1: lot more ball movement and more and more they play
Speaker 1: fast break or secondary fast break basketball. Now, let's get
Speaker 1: to the let's get to the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: I know, me and you was on the same level.
Speaker 1: You don't even know. Do the Knicks have a chance.
Speaker 1: It's Paul Zingus. What's that nigga name. He's nice. It's nice,
Speaker 1: Paul Zingus, the fucking unicorn. No, he's nice. He's nice.
Speaker 1: And my money tell you something that he's for some
Speaker 1: he's for sure. He's for sure. And why are they
Speaker 1: doing better betterless since Metal left? I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: believe this. You know, one is earlier in the season,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Phil Jackson's an asshole. Let's
Speaker 1: just throw that out there. Uh, you know a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know Phil Jackson's asshole. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: definitely think that Phil Jacks. I'm gonna tell you I'm
Speaker 1: Jackson's I see Phil Jackson walking down the street. It's
Speaker 1: just me and him. And I had to look at him.
Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't take him. He felt like
Speaker 1: he was out of the you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just so I looked, just out of touch. You're married,
Speaker 1: and I said, just think of my win right now.
Speaker 1: I said, Phil, I want to funk you up. I
Speaker 1: said you better, I say, cool. Wait, Actually, remember when
Speaker 1: you told me that Phil Jackson, I said he was
Speaker 1: dope or not? And I looked at himself. Feel you
Speaker 1: fucking up? And he looked at me and said, look,
Speaker 1: little nig But dude, we got a chance. As a
Speaker 1: Nick fan, listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: Let me finish my statement. You will get more. You
Speaker 1: hit whatever you want. Listen. As a Nick fan, we've
Speaker 1: been disappointed for twenty decades. We just want one chance.
Speaker 1: You know. As a person who wears Jordan's, I really
Speaker 1: hate that man because every year I felt like we're
Speaker 1: gonna make it, and then he would hit the last shot,
Speaker 1: you motherfucker, pipping everybody, pipping um. He lives in Miami.
Speaker 1: Now I see him. I've probably never spoke to him.
Speaker 1: I probably never said hot because the bulls they just
Speaker 1: killed our career. Look am a lying. Look you're feeling us. Dude.
Speaker 1: Do you think then, do we have even a slight
Speaker 1: bit of a chance? Um? No, honest, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I always say the Knicks have a chance because it's
Speaker 1: New York and and the heart and the energy of
Speaker 1: the city. Like no, no, no, I'm being real like
Speaker 1: the fans. The fans is crazy, right, and the fans
Speaker 1: can ultimately become the sixth Man. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I think that just putting New York and just
Speaker 1: to ne and just like it has to be like
Speaker 1: it got to be a fabric, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They got to be an understanding that you know, this
Speaker 1: is the Knicks, This is how the Knicks rocking and
Speaker 1: rolling this you know what I mean? And like you know,
Speaker 1: it has to be like um no matter if like one,
Speaker 1: you can't just keep putting trying to put pieces together,
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, because that's gonna Do you
Speaker 1: think when they traded Metal that was a bad more? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I don't necessarily think it
Speaker 1: was a bad movie. I don't think it was. I
Speaker 1: thought it was pis. I mean, everybody was pissed. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I think everything Puerto rican man,
Speaker 1: but at this trade quarter weekend, Yeah, he's Puerto rican man.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't trade Puerto Ricans. That's not the
Speaker 1: way it works, right, drags on. I I just think
Speaker 1: that it was. He's my friend. Man, I'm just now
Speaker 1: we didn't already like that's it. That's the way it worked.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Think you gotta pick gap shirt on?
Speaker 1: He gotta like and he's my friend. That's the way
Speaker 1: it works. Not the Swissers is bring him in, bring
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Speaker 1: don't know what you gotta Michael, Mike the thinking now listen, No,
Speaker 1: but this is what it is. But it's like they
Speaker 1: have to, you know, with the Mellow thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that train because it was kind
Speaker 1: of like I was coming to. And if you can't
Speaker 1: honor somebody who's like or or figure out a way
Speaker 1: to make it right, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 1: make it right for him, then let him do what
Speaker 1: he needs to do, you know what I mean, he
Speaker 1: towards the end of his career. Let him go get
Speaker 1: a shot, to go play with somebody else, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Be happy and do what he want
Speaker 1: to do, because right now, it's not Mellow's fault, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's not you know, it's it
Speaker 1: can't be all on one player, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's about like, where is the system that protects
Speaker 1: the players? When you look at Golden State, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're always talking about Golden State State.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying, go to the State Warriors,
Speaker 1: or or when you talk about Cleveland, Yeah, you talk
Speaker 1: about le Broma. It's like the Cleveland Cavaliers. They got
Speaker 1: a system, you know what I mean. Not the system
Speaker 1: is in play to win San Antonio. They the system
Speaker 1: is in play to win. You come here, you're playing
Speaker 1: a certain way. Have you ever been to a system
Speaker 1: where you didn't agree with the system but you got
Speaker 1: traded there? Uh, everybody drink chapters. Everywhere I got traded
Speaker 1: was like, uh, starting in New Orleans. When I got
Speaker 1: traded to go to State, you know, they was like dead.
Speaker 1: It was like Night of the Living Dead. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't want to be there, But
Speaker 1: at the same time, it was just like damn, like
Speaker 1: these dudes walking around like zombies, Like, Hey, we want
Speaker 1: to play basketball and I've been hurt, so like we
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Jay Rits the only one who really
Speaker 1: wanted to play, So I was like ship man, It's
Speaker 1: like Night of the Living Dead and so I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be there, but you know, turn it around,
Speaker 1: I guess. You know, once we got the bright coach
Speaker 1: and it seemed to like start working, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then when I got traded to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in Cleveland, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Kyrie was still in high school and Lebron
Speaker 1: had just left, so they had come off like losing
Speaker 1: twenty three straight. So it was like it was like
Speaker 1: it was not a great place. But I went to
Speaker 1: Cleveland made the most out of it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and like, you know, they turned it around
Speaker 1: after that, you feel what I'm saying. So it didn't
Speaker 1: really matter. Like I think, when I went to the Clippers,
Speaker 1: I was probably the worst kind of system that I want.
Speaker 1: And you was under Sterling. Yeah, because let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something. I'm gonna be honest with you guys.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get an apartment in l A.
Speaker 1: My credit is horrible. Nobody approved me. The only building
Speaker 1: that approved me was the Sterling building because you take cash.
Speaker 1: Because I hate my manager and I'm like, yo, Bob,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see here. He's like, you can't move
Speaker 1: to Donald Slles building Like what He's like, that's like
Speaker 1: moving in the trunk And I'm like, oh, yeall did
Speaker 1: everything beside my fucking name to the fucking check And
Speaker 1: he's like you can't not move it? And he called
Speaker 1: um Magic Johnson a nickna? Like how do you call?
Speaker 1: How did everybody could call nigga? I just feel like
Speaker 1: Magic get the pass? Yeah, like you ain't apposed to
Speaker 1: go Like he's like, he's not supposed to be a nigger?
Speaker 1: Like I went too far? How you how you calling
Speaker 1: Magic a nigga? Like when did when did you as
Speaker 1: a person who played for NBA team, as a person
Speaker 1: who played and know the politics, when you heard that,
Speaker 1: were you shocked or what you like? This is normal.
Speaker 1: I wasn't shocked at up when I when I got there.
Speaker 1: What shocked me is when I got there and when
Speaker 1: I did my press conference, it was almost like the
Speaker 1: movie The Devil's Advocate. As soon as I come out
Speaker 1: of the press conference, the head of the chief dude
Speaker 1: to like communications saying, hey man, he may say something
Speaker 1: to you. You know what I mean, I know you're
Speaker 1: from here. He may say something to you that may
Speaker 1: be out of pocket or something when he was playing
Speaker 1: for the Clippers. After I announced after that game the
Speaker 1: speech and whatnot, because I didn't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm like, y'all, I'm coming back to I'm
Speaker 1: about to get it rocking. I'm gonna turn it around.
Speaker 1: You feel them saying like, no matter what, like I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking about who the owner is. I know a
Speaker 1: bunk about who the owner is, and so they're warning
Speaker 1: you about that. He said, Yo, he about to say
Speaker 1: he gonna say some crazy shot. I said, Man, he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say no crazy. But then, like every day
Speaker 1: you live in it, though, you realize, like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this is like a dictatorship, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And people say, like the man is racist. Just like that, man, hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: you feel I'm saying, you don't have no respect for nobody.
Speaker 1: So it's not it's it's like racism is just like
Speaker 1: racism is a short word to describe him. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, That's like, that's like a copile word
Speaker 1: to to describe him. And like the way that the
Speaker 1: whole system was being red. So for me, it was
Speaker 1: just like no bullshit. After my first year I went
Speaker 1: to Africa, I was like, you know what, like either
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something crazy or I need to go
Speaker 1: somewhere where I feel like I need to appreciate everything
Speaker 1: that I have as a black man in America. And
Speaker 1: so I went to Africa, and I you know, went
Speaker 1: to Africa like three or four weeks and just was
Speaker 1: like I needed to see something now that you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I went to Tanzania, Rwanda, um man,
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of like low key like changed
Speaker 1: my life, like the genocide and then like you see
Speaker 1: how you seem's going on in Liberia. It's crazy, yeah,
Speaker 1: mess you look man, It's like when you look at
Speaker 1: the world, you know what I mean, we look at
Speaker 1: ourselves here in the United States, and we all privileged.
Speaker 1: You feel them saying like and we don't know ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We don't know ship until
Speaker 1: we go outside the country and really see how people
Speaker 1: really live and like the ship that they got and
Speaker 1: the resources they use, and like how I appreciative they
Speaker 1: are for life, you know what I'm saying that. So
Speaker 1: that's what taught me about like they're the same, No dude,
Speaker 1: no racists. You feel what I'm saying, Like that big
Speaker 1: like Donald Sterling. It was like he no, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm bigger than him, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: so one, I'm letting everybody know this man racist and
Speaker 1: you humboy you've been I say ship to me, you
Speaker 1: may not say ship to me. You been not say
Speaker 1: this ship to me. I'm gonna sit here. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hoop as much as I can, but I can't come
Speaker 1: to this arena knowing that I'm trying to win games,
Speaker 1: knowing that he's gonna win. So I'm fucked, so I
Speaker 1: can't play. You feel what I'm saying. So let me
Speaker 1: really ask you something because I know you gotta get
Speaker 1: up out of here. Um when the people start kneeling,
Speaker 1: uh huh, pick up Colin Kaepinet because um, I feel
Speaker 1: like he doesn't get his just due for what. So
Speaker 1: people started kneeling, right, And now the kneeling things kind
Speaker 1: of got out of got out of the uh controversy
Speaker 1: because the thing about it is now they're they're focusing
Speaker 1: on the kneeling. But the kneeling part was to promote
Speaker 1: police brutality, police and justice. It was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the innocence, um, the innocent killings of armed black people,
Speaker 1: and when they started kneeling, what happened was people start
Speaker 1: to focus on the actual kneeling as opposed to the
Speaker 1: actual protests and what they were kneeling for. How did
Speaker 1: you how do you feel about that? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's a great, big distraction. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: and you know, it's easy to run where the glow is.
Speaker 1: It's easy to run where the line is. It's easy
Speaker 1: to run where everybody run until you feel them saying,
Speaker 1: but to not understand. And so my whole thing is
Speaker 1: what's the solution? Right? What's the solution? So you know,
Speaker 1: we're kneeling, that's cool, we're showing that we protested, me
Speaker 1: showing that we're standing up. We were expressing ourselves, we're
Speaker 1: expressing our rights. But what's the solution? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because when it's time to meet, and it's
Speaker 1: a meeting out of minds, like who's there with the
Speaker 1: plan and saying, you know what, all this killing got
Speaker 1: to stop? How do we fix it? You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying instead of like, man, what do we mean?
Speaker 1: And and not to disrespect no movement, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I think that for us to like
Speaker 1: keep rewriting the same playbook of protests. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, when like we look at the power that
Speaker 1: we do have within ourselves, we can rewrite the system
Speaker 1: by just looking at ourselves differently. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How do you stop police brutality? I say, let's educate
Speaker 1: these kids, and let's educate them to grow up to
Speaker 1: want to be policeman and they in the community police yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if if you grow up right and one of
Speaker 1: your best friends from elementary schools the police man, you
Speaker 1: feel them. But I know your story exactly, so I
Speaker 1: know your story. You feel what I'm saying. But we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't look at opportunities or the jobs and not
Speaker 1: that these are opportunities that exist. We gotta go out
Speaker 1: and we gotta figure out the solution. How do we
Speaker 1: create these things to stop us from being looked at?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? In this position, you feel
Speaker 1: you know what, It's different from when I grew up
Speaker 1: and was like, the police is the fun bitches in
Speaker 1: my hood, right man? They're regular people to regular people
Speaker 1: to identified like we knew that something like think somebody, right,
Speaker 1: you get somebody from Ciscinnati. Right now, you get somebody
Speaker 1: from the South who police different. Now you get shipped
Speaker 1: to New York, right, he gets he gets traded to
Speaker 1: New York. You feel me now, the way he was
Speaker 1: policing down South, he gonna police in New York. Now
Speaker 1: he comes to your hood. Right when your homeboy that
Speaker 1: you went to school, it was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: police in that community. You feel what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: he come there, and now when he run into youth,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole confrontation thing because he don't
Speaker 1: know you, you don't know him, and and now you
Speaker 1: mean confrontation. You feel what I'm saying. So it ain't
Speaker 1: no understanding. You feel what I'm saying. It's always a
Speaker 1: misunderstanding because we don't get we don't we don't create
Speaker 1: enough solutions from for us to understand in ourselves and
Speaker 1: for people to understand that we more than just a
Speaker 1: motherfucker's sitting on the street corner or but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's like you know and and big
Speaker 1: up see you for doing this show, like you know,
Speaker 1: giving light to people. You know what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: be able to like, you know, speak their ignorant, speak
Speaker 1: their peace, whatever it is. You feel what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: you know, million dollar million dollars, hundred million dollars, you
Speaker 1: got a hunt, a hundred million to causes to get
Speaker 1: to get the players to stop kneeling. It was a
Speaker 1: big article and I don't know, I don't read that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that giving out there basically saying hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put a hundred million dollars towards these problems
Speaker 1: to stop kneeling. No baron got a goot, here's a deal. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, if they would put that same
Speaker 1: because the thing about it is this, we're not lying,
Speaker 1: We're not making these stories not happening, man, And it's
Speaker 1: black people are every fucking day by the hands of
Speaker 1: the police. Right. But we forgot, we forgot, we forgot
Speaker 1: because became a Trump thing and it became against the flag,
Speaker 1: and now you disrespected America. You feel what I'm saying it,
Speaker 1: So it was like, hold on the police, you disrespecting America.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it about something different, right, And now
Speaker 1: everybody started kneeling for different purposes, different reasons, and what's
Speaker 1: a solution? You feel what I'm saying. It's like I
Speaker 1: think that we're living in the world because of like
Speaker 1: we got the power of social and viral for us
Speaker 1: to understand and and and have a better perspective of
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: like we can get caught in the web. But just
Speaker 1: following ship, you know what I mean, That ship can
Speaker 1: just become viral. You know what I mean. And so
Speaker 1: you you run the risk of positive things happening, negative
Speaker 1: things happening, things getting misunderstood. You feel what I'm saying
Speaker 1: it so you get further and further away from actual
Speaker 1: solution is you know what I mean, Because it's like
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's an American thing. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And like, you know, black look at us,
Speaker 1: look at this sucking room. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Look at this. You can't tell me, We can't tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. Like it ain't no minority. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it ain't no minority. But if you
Speaker 1: grow up and you believe you the minority, you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You're gonna always feel like you gotta
Speaker 1: fight to like you the We're the fucking as far
Speaker 1: as I'm looking at it, we're the majority. We all
Speaker 1: look and working on this ship and coming together and
Speaker 1: doing the same thing, you see what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that should just be a distraction. Man, you feel me? Now,
Speaker 1: how did you get into Adam Sandler movie? Because Adam
Speaker 1: Salder only fox with his people, that's it. He don't
Speaker 1: work with new niggasogoing. So um how because because I
Speaker 1: think you've been like three right, Uh? I think like
Speaker 1: what like a commercial approach with I was Will Ferrell Simon,
Speaker 1: that's my boy with Adam Sandling and uh Sandling boy,
Speaker 1: Like we just started hooping together in New York and
Speaker 1: uh that's just like that's like the big homie man,
Speaker 1: that's like big bro. Yeah you played ball with Adam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's be one that he left. I was just playing ball.
Speaker 1: So that's how y'all started. Yeah, and he just passed
Speaker 1: me the ball all like he liked to dribble and
Speaker 1: throw does He played like Steve Nash all the time.
Speaker 1: We was in uh in the New York Sports Club,
Speaker 1: and so he was like, man, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I gotta gotta And then we
Speaker 1: got a lot of ties in l A. So you know,
Speaker 1: I was always sweating him, like yo, let he put
Speaker 1: me in the movie man, and always walked by his office.
Speaker 1: Hey man, Yeah was the first movie. And that's my
Speaker 1: boy was my first movie. But we did a commercial
Speaker 1: for like the NBA and his movie to Zoha and
Speaker 1: that's how we like, uh, we got to do it,
Speaker 1: but the n B A and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're funny, and I was like, man, thank you. And
Speaker 1: then he just started like looking out for me every time,
Speaker 1: like yo, you want to do this, you want to
Speaker 1: be in this? And and I'm like, damn, dude, you
Speaker 1: know it's it's a blessing because he really liked funk
Speaker 1: with me and think like Yo, this dude funny. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like, because a lot of
Speaker 1: people like one track mindet meaning you got one thing
Speaker 1: to do? So how did you come up with that
Speaker 1: intuition to say, you know what, after I'm done with
Speaker 1: with with ball, I wanna you know, experience with that.
Speaker 1: How did you even come up with that? For me?
Speaker 1: It was more so like that was you know, once
Speaker 1: once your body where I would like you use your mind.
Speaker 1: And you know, for me, basketball was never really like physical.
Speaker 1: That's why I always played her because I didn't give
Speaker 1: a funk. It was just like a release and it
Speaker 1: was more about creativity, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you said your body gives out this This is true. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: your body breakdown. I mean you're looking at you look
Speaker 1: at athletes and eventually like you just can't perform. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like I beat Tiger Woods right now, Like
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there right now's up. I
Speaker 1: just lost it. He's gonna step on the he's gonna
Speaker 1: step on the golf course. You're gonna look at it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like, damn, just like you did with
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson. I don't want to say Tiger, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean Now, I've been looking at
Speaker 1: Tiger like t taking pills. Man, the man, listen, I
Speaker 1: just take exacy. I know Dagger's on ecstasy right now.
Speaker 1: But you're saying your body does actually your body right
Speaker 1: like you but like you just can't perform at you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the pace in the level, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because the game is getting faster and faster, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you have to be you know,
Speaker 1: smart about how you train and as you get older,
Speaker 1: but eventually your body is gonna break down. And like everybody,
Speaker 1: every athlete say, you know you ride to the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off, you know what I mean, because it's the
Speaker 1: one thing that you grew up with, it's the one
Speaker 1: thing you love. I mean, that's a controversy around football,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, how do you tell
Speaker 1: a kid has been doing this all his life that
Speaker 1: he loves this, you know what I mean? This is
Speaker 1: like what he has to like stop and it's like hard,
Speaker 1: you know, even though it has health, health restrengths, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just like it's crazy
Speaker 1: because it's like an outlet and it's like the only
Speaker 1: thing that we had. So for me, it was just
Speaker 1: like damn I could use my mind. Basketball. Dudes got
Speaker 1: crazy stories. We tell crazy stories. Dudes. Is funny. And
Speaker 1: I'm already in l A. So I'm going to go
Speaker 1: into movies and making movies and smart. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 1: what that's what it was. So this is the last
Speaker 1: question I got because they're trying to wrap us up.
Speaker 1: Do they smoke weed in the NBA. I mean not
Speaker 1: inside not and and not in the NBA. You know,
Speaker 1: I think like the commissioner and like the people in
Speaker 1: the NBA, they don't smoke weed. But like but the players,
Speaker 1: they get busy. Whoever smoke smokes. Yeah, I'm basically it's
Speaker 1: like to each his own, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know who personally smokes. No, don't that like
Speaker 1: I don't, you ain't gonna stay. But like you know,
Speaker 1: if you smoke weed, you smoke. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But look, how could it
Speaker 1: be legal in l A but it's illegal for athlete?
Speaker 1: You know. Honestly, I think like the rules will change
Speaker 1: because you know it's like, man, you play so hard
Speaker 1: you feel I'm saying, you need some smoke. Man, sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to like your body needs to calm down.
Speaker 1: Or you know, the CBD oil and it and and
Speaker 1: it's known to like be bearing healing. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, It's gonna be a healing. You know all
Speaker 1: that saying all that, I'm just saying, bro, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: the rules gonna change, rus gonna chang rules. Got the
Speaker 1: rules gotta change because it's like it's a high demand
Speaker 1: on your body. Dude, it's high stress. It's not a
Speaker 1: lot of sleep, you know what I mean. And like
Speaker 1: I'd rather somebody smoke with and take pills. I rather
Speaker 1: somebody smoke with then become an alcoholic and become a
Speaker 1: drug that, you know what I mean. And then when
Speaker 1: you look back in the history of like all the
Speaker 1: great players who failed the alcoholism and pills and cocaine
Speaker 1: and ship, maybe if they have some blood, that's all
Speaker 1: maybe they wanted, you know what I mean, because that
Speaker 1: ain't known that like, cause you know, I ain't never
Speaker 1: heard nobody this is true. It's true. We get to
Speaker 1: the Black Star. Do you think that Kaepernick should have
Speaker 1: talked them all? Because I feel like that I feel
Speaker 1: like that was kind of mistake, Like he took a
Speaker 1: stance and then he didn't explain his stance. Is that
Speaker 1: a problem? And we get right in the Black Star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think even he should have. It
Speaker 1: should have been a solution, It should have been a
Speaker 1: preparation for you feel what I'm saying. And I think
Speaker 1: that you know, what he was doing was what was
Speaker 1: true to his heart. He feeled I'm saying, and like,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what his purpose and his goal and
Speaker 1: his mission was about. And then I think that everybody
Speaker 1: else started putting spices in the gumbo, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because after the Trump said these sons of bitches'
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's way and later. And
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing about like the viral thing is like,
Speaker 1: you know what, where was everybody a year when he
Speaker 1: was when he was doing you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And then you don't have a job now that's kind
Speaker 1: of terrible. And he's still fighting a good fight. He
Speaker 1: feeling he's still getting the Black Santa. So black Santa
Speaker 1: to me is like a solution and so you know,
Speaker 1: like traveling the world, you know, uh, And it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I have a black dog show up like Santa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a black So I feel like I should
Speaker 1: be Black Santa. I'm just doningtach anybody can be saying it.
Speaker 1: So that that was my whole thing is like why
Speaker 1: does Christmas have to be told with a certain type
Speaker 1: of stiffness aesthetic and a look and to feel, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? When somebody created that, So why
Speaker 1: can't I create? And I ask you the question, do
Speaker 1: you know a black man that's jolly all the time, friendly,
Speaker 1: you can trust, you can depend on, and you can
Speaker 1: make wishes to you know what I mean? Like we
Speaker 1: don't have that. So as kids, as adults, we don't
Speaker 1: have that imagery. And so for me, it's to like
Speaker 1: go in and to look at you know, storytelling, to
Speaker 1: look at you know, from a kid's perspective, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, from a family's perspective. It's how can
Speaker 1: I give you an image and then create through this
Speaker 1: vision and in this world, this world of inclusion, this
Speaker 1: world of diversity through this black man eyes because of
Speaker 1: Black Santa. Don't just have black people around you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, And so
Speaker 1: like that's what that's the story we want to tell.
Speaker 1: And and and basically kids get to see themselves and
Speaker 1: they get to see their dreams and wishes and have
Speaker 1: somebody that they can believe in. And you feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and identify five with every time that holiday
Speaker 1: season come around. And so you know, I created this, uh,
Speaker 1: this Black Santa character and this company basically to be
Speaker 1: able to tell stories of diversity, you know, Latino Cinderellas,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just you know, everything, everything,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we gotta donate. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like it's what is it you putting out? Like merchandise, storytelling, merchandise.
Speaker 1: We're releasing the mix tape. So the mix tape is
Speaker 1: coming out in a way to Christmas mix. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Black Santa is releasing the mix tape. Man, if we
Speaker 1: got merchandi want to wrapping paper? You know Black Santa
Speaker 1: dot com he around, you know up here, pop up
Speaker 1: on you you know what I mean. And so we
Speaker 1: just really just building the movement and the growth where
Speaker 1: it's going to be education based entertainment base in the
Speaker 1: world where we can all utilize each other's talent to
Speaker 1: like spew out a bigger message and big let's make
Speaker 1: some noise of Black sand I got damn before to
Speaker 1: let you go. I'm gonna throw something out there. Yesterday
Speaker 1: I woke up. I had four great hairs. Oh my god, dog,
Speaker 1: you got done. I had one right here and the ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, you got one like that one? I
Speaker 1: had one right here and the ship was sticking out
Speaker 1: that way and it was look at his ship, he's
Speaker 1: but my hands is polished. You know they got blow.
Speaker 1: I had that one. I was like trying to cut that.
Speaker 1: I woke up. I had I told my wife. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship, I kept trying to pugle it,
Speaker 1: and my wife had My wife had a scissor, like
Speaker 1: what is he one of around with scissors? Bro? And
Speaker 1: then I woke up and I had four right here.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm thirty. Damn. Look in the mirror.
Speaker 1: I got great hairs, Like, damn, I got great hairs,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't I feel good? You know what I'm saying.
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