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It's a Herd. 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio laviar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, and you 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country, 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: and you can find us filling in for Colin here 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: until three o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific. Here as we 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: begin hour two of the program, what up Stakes. 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: One? 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: That's a dope. That's a dope intro song, you know, 16 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: And that's the cow heard intro song that's right for 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: the show that we need to find somebody to Oh, 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: we do have one. We do have one there, man, 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: our buddy, what is it? 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: Lee Corvalis made us a couple of them, like a 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: fifties diner edition. 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: I really like it. Two pros. You know what movie 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: that's from, and you know what they were doing. Okay, 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: that's more commonplace these days. You know what movie, No, 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: it's a good guess. Come on, come on, movie, I 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: could tell you it's super simple, super easy. We know 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: you watch movies from the eighties. If you if you 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: got this this right, music on, try Lee a Lee, 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: you're a movie blow hard. The name of the restaurant 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: was called the Blue Oyster. Did I get that one right? 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: Blue Oyster? There you go? Police? Are you go? You 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: remember every time you go in there? That would be 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: the song that would play every single time they fall 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: in there? You see dudes with chaps on, and that's it. 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Damn the little collars, the dog collar of the rocket. 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: Why do I remember this? All right? I might be 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: incriminating myself. I'm right, I put myself out there, but 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 4: I do remember the Blue Oyster from Police Academy movies 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: because of that song in particular. By the way, yeah, yeah, 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 4: there you go. 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: Now do you remember when the Miami Dolphins were good? 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? Let's see Larry Zonka, Mark Duper, 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: uh well Duper was with Damn Marino, which they were 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: good then too. They just couldn't win the Super Bowl. 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 4: Let's see who else was who else was there. Don 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: Shula was the coach. Anyways, Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: I mean listening. 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: They've had uh you know, Williams was there, Dave Wantstat 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: was there. They've had some runs here. In the most 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: recent run you would look at and go, well, it 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: made a couple of playoff appearances. First, we've talked about, 52 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: you know, Tua can't stay healthy. If he can't stay healthy, 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: the splits between him healthy and not healthy are drastically 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: different as far as their wins and what they are 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: as a football team. A Sante Samuel Senior, though, he 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: was on the Say What Needs to Be Said podcast 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: recently and had this to say about the Miami organization. 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: Dolphins had no reason to trade Jaysonen Ramsey other than 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: that's sensitive. There's no leadership in the Dolphins organization. Mike 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: McDaniels is a pushover Chris Brea, the general manager. He 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 5: has no backbone. These guys over here to Miama Dolphins. 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: They are running this team like a little league team. 63 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: No one can stand up to the players. They're terrified 64 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 5: of their own players, and they have no control over 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: their players. 66 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: So that from A Santa Samuel Senior talking about the 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Dolphins organization. What makes us interesting is that a Sante 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: Samuel Junior was a potential free agent target for the 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: Dolphins and then this stuff came out. So I'm not 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: sure how he feels about that, but nice little rip 71 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: job of everything going out of Miami there. 72 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 4: I mean, you did kind of swap him out and 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: lose a player. I mean the tight end. John u 74 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: was in the top five in stats average yeards in 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 4: a game. Here's a Pro Bowl last year, his best year. Yes, 76 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: so you get rid of him, then you get rid 77 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: of Jalen Ramsey for Mika Fitzpatrick. If my math is correct, 78 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Lee, you might want to look this one up. 79 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: How far apart in age is Jalen Ramsey and Minka Fitzpas. 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess two years, two to three years? Maybe 81 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: maybe I think is there enough of an age gap 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: between minca and it's two years? 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: Two years? Is that enough of an age gap where 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: you'd say we're going to get rid of an aging 85 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey for a is who's older Jalen by two 86 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: more years? Okay, for two years younger Minka Fitzpatrick that 87 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: played they play one play safety, one plays corner, but 88 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: one could potentially play safety. If he can transition to 89 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: playing safety, does that make sense as a trade swap? 90 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: It would make you question why you did it. 91 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: Look, we talked with Albert Breer last week and I 92 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: just asked him straight up, like, hey man, what are 93 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: they doing? 94 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: What's the plan? 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: Because you look at the Dolphins direction sort of what's 96 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: going on there? And his he's like, yeah, they don't 97 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: want to they don't want to say it, but they're. 98 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: It's the rebuilt. Yeah. 99 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: They's like they tried to go at it from a 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: standpoint of we've got a quarterback on a rookie contract. 101 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: There's a window. We're going to try to go for it. 102 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: But to hasn't been able to stay healthy and it 103 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: just hasn't worked. And there were some other reports that 104 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: came out this offseason that some of the veterans were 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: growing tired of Mike McDaniel, that it had kind of 106 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: run its course. And so when you hear this, you 107 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: know he's talking about you know, McDaniel's got you know, 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: a pushover, no backbone, et cetera, et cetera. I do 109 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: wonder if there's more of that going on because the 110 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hills situation, him not wanting to be there, and 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: then he does want to be there, and then he's 112 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: gonna all of a sudden he loves being with the 113 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: organization and being with the team. John Whu Smith wanted 114 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: to stay in Miami. They couldn't get that done. Chris 115 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: Greer openly talking months in advance about when he to 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: trade Jalen Ramsey. Last I checked, if you're trying to 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: deal somebody, don't let everybody else know you're trying to 118 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: deal them. You want to get the best offer you can. 119 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: And he's out there just openly talking about like, oh, yeah, 120 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna be We decide we're gonna move on and 121 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: hopefully we'll get a deal done. We expect to get 122 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: a deal done, and that's the deal they ended up with. 123 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: It just feels like the honeymoon's over and the reality 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: is this team's starting to look less and less in 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: comparison to where they were the past couple of years. 126 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: I find it interesting the points of Sante Samuel Mayor 127 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: made about the being scared or not having a level 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: of control. There are a lot of hipster head coaches 129 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: in the league anymore, and it was they were created 130 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: by the Shanahan coaching tree, Like Kyle Shanahan is like 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: the number one hipster coach. Then you got a Mike 132 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: McVay hipster coach. Then you gotta then you gotta Mike 133 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: McDaniel hipster coach. You got hipster coaches in the league. 134 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: It's because they're not fat. It's not because they're not fat, 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: it's that they're hipsters. Like they have a hipster look 136 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: about them, Like if you look up what a hipster 137 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: looks like, that's what they look like. And so to me, 138 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: at some point, if if you don't get the support 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: and if you don't get that respect from those players, 140 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: how are they handling the relationship between one another? And 141 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: I think it's Sante Samuels raises a valid point, a 142 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: valid question. If you start to see emotions bubble up 143 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: about you that aren't necessarily positive and there's no real 144 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: recourse you can take against your players when you have 145 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: that type of physical stature, what do you do. You 146 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: got to find the root of the problem, and you 147 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: got deleted because if you let that spread and if 148 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: you let it continue to grow, and then now it's 149 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: like wait, hold on, everybody's been spoiled or it has 150 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: been poisoned. The well has been poisoned by this one 151 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: person that just doesn't seem to look at me in 152 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: the way that I need him to look at me. 153 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: You got to get rid of them, and that might 154 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: be what took place with you. Jalen Ramsey is a 155 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: very very dominant, a very very strong, masculine type of personality. 156 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: I don't know him. I've never spoken with him. I've 157 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: seen a lot of interviews on him, and it gives 158 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: me he has a intimidating type of personality. 159 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: Old school maybe maybe, because I do wonder if. 160 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: That could that could be light nail on the head. 161 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Because look, they hired the contrast of what Brian Flores 162 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: was as a head coach because people can't handle it. 163 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 164 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they didn't like the way that he hand 165 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: the to a situation which there's a lot of great 166 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: minds on this. 167 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: I didn't like it. 168 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: And I wonder if they overcorrect overcorrected themselves to a 169 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: point to where they went too soft. 170 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they went somebody was here's the spectrum of old 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: school coach, and then now you went opposite spectrum with 172 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: new school coach. He is a new school coach. 173 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: And a guy whose main priority was I need to 174 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: get our quarterback who was drafted number five overall to 175 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: feeling good about himself again. And maybe they did. And 176 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: maybe yeah, and it didn't, but maybe they did. Maybe 177 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: that came at the cost of some other people in 178 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: the locker room. 179 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it came at a cost of if you can't 180 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: get past a certain point, a certain threshold, some of 181 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: these grown ass men are going to call it out. 182 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: I don't know what goes on behind closed doors. They 183 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: did do a hard knocks with them. You did get 184 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: an opportunity unity to see some of the proclivities of 185 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: the head coach and others. What really goes on behind 186 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: closed doors in locker rooms these days, that locker room 187 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: in particular, I don't really know. I just know the 188 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: mentality of football players is that of even though the 189 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: game isn't as brutal as it once was, it is 190 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: still a warrior sport. You are a warrior, you are 191 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: a trooper. And I know people get offended. Don't compare, 192 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: don't compare football in sports to soldiers, and that I do. 193 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: I do. I call players that have retired civilians, they 194 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: have now become civilians and when you're playing your active duty. 195 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: In fact, if you foul for it, when you're done 196 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: playing ball, you get active duty benefits as an NFL VET, 197 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: So I do liking them to warriors, and I do 198 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: liking them to So if that offends you, I don't care. 199 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, when you have that 200 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: mentality that you got to take onto the field where 201 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: it's you versus me, and there is the mental aspect 202 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: of it, but there's also the physical aspect of it 203 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: that has to play out. There is a different mentality 204 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: from position to position. It gets more intense the closer 205 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: you get to the ball. They're more touched. Now outside 206 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: they're touched in a very selfish way. Receivers corners, they're 207 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: very selfish people. They're wired selfishly. They speak their mind, 208 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: they say what they want to say. Because they're on islands, 209 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: they're by themselves. Whatever that receiver does, his success hinges 210 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: off of his ability to get open or to catch 211 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: the ball under any circumstances. If it comes near me, 212 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: I gotta get it. If I'm a corner, I am 213 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 4: by myself and I have to cover this man, and 214 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: I have to make sure that I don't give up 215 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: a big explosive play that can impact this game by 216 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: yourself running yards, covering yards upon yards. The closer you get, 217 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: it's just we right here, lineman, d linemen, we right here. 218 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: The minute that ball is snaped, there will be blood, 219 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: there will be contact. I'm going to test my agility. 220 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to test my strength, my technique, my skill, 221 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: all these different things. I'm testing that right now. Then 222 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: you have it and it moves a little bit back 223 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: to the linebackers. It's kind of the same. It's like, 224 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: but I have two brothers with me, or one right, 225 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: I have one to the left of me. I have 226 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: one to the right of me, and we handle this 227 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: as backing the lineman, but we're also helping the corners 228 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: and the safeties. So to me, when you look at 229 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: what you have to deal with in a locker room, 230 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: the personalities that you're gonna best get along with are 231 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks because they don't have to really do much, 232 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: but they do the most. It's weird, yeah, but they 233 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: don't have they don't. You don't have all of that 234 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: that mental fortitude of we gotta go to war like 235 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: we're going to battle, like let's go get this. Quarterbacks 236 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: are more cerebral. More often than not, they're going to 237 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: be more lighthearted. Some are very serious. Some are very 238 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: very fat driven or or whatever it structure driven. That's 239 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: what they brought Mike McDaniel in for. You said it. 240 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: You said it perfectly. They brought Mike McDaniel in to 241 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: be able. 242 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: To crack the code, fix our guy on on to A, 243 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: make him, make him whole again. 244 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: But you lost. You might have not have taken into 245 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: account what that type of personality that builds Tua up. 246 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey doesn't need that soft hand approach. This guy 247 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: over here, Toop Robinson doesn't need that offhand approach. You 248 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: know you had a big, big, big dog last year 249 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: on the offensive defensive line. Does he probably just Caleus Campbell. 250 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: You don't need that. Tarik Hill doesn't need to be 251 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: handled with kid gloves. I would assume Tooa doesn't. He 252 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: played for Nick Saban. But that's what you chose to 253 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: go with. And if that's what you chose to go with, 254 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: are you sacrificing based off of what I can hear 255 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: from a Sante Samuel SR Are you sacrificing the whole 256 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: of the team in terms of being able to accomplish 257 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: because your personality makeup fits perfectly with the quarterback, but 258 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: maybe not everybody else on the team. 259 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: And also, like you look at Mike McDaniels and he's 260 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: five games over five hundred. He's had a good run there, 261 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: like he has. I mean, their their competitive again. Win 262 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: two is healthy, but when you start to look at 263 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: the moves they've made and the moving on from Jalen 264 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Ramsey and the moving on from john Us Smith and 265 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: bringing in Mika Fitzpatrick and all this stuff, and Albert 266 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: Breer lays it out and says, well, you know, maybe 267 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: this is you know, more they don't want to say this, 268 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: but maybe this is more of a rebuild, and you 269 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: just start to take a look, take a step back. 270 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: I mean, if they're a sub five hundred team this year, 271 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel's probably going to get the acts like that's 272 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: probably how this is going to go. And people could say, yeah, 273 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: but you know he's got a winning record and you 274 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: know it's not his fault to it can't stay healthy, right, 275 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: But we've seen it before. Chip Kelly was you know, 276 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: five games over five hundred and got clipped by Philly 277 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: because they could just feel the tide turning in the organization. 278 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: Matt Naggi was had a winning record as Bears head coach, 279 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: went to two playoff appearance, had two playoff appearances. Still 280 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: they moved on because I think that people on the 281 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: outside get a good read on what the vibe is 282 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: inside the locker room, and if they can feel it turning, 283 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: why wait any longer. You've got to make a move. 284 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: And I just wonder if there's people there that are like, 285 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: hey man, this thing's starting to turn ugly, Like it's 286 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: starting to turn ugly. Those reports coming out as Sante 287 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: Samuel basically ripping the organization when they're looking at his 288 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: son trying to sign his son who's a free agent. 289 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: This just feels like it's going sideways. 290 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: Man. 291 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: It was cute. While it was cute. It was cute. 292 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: Remember, and by the way you said this in kind 293 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: of a joking fashion, the tone of Mike McDaniel changed. 294 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: It had to change his look everything. If you look 295 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: at what he was early on as a head coach 296 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 4: versus what he is now, it had to change. It 297 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: had to be a more aggressive looking Mike McDaniels, a 298 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: more tougher looking Mike McDaniels. McDaniel, it had to change. 299 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: The way he talked changed when we were making fun 300 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: of when I was making fun of him the one year. 301 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: From that year to the next year, I was like, Oh, 302 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: he changed the way he talks. And the only reason 303 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: why I recognize is because I was making fund of 304 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: the way he was talking the year before. It kind 305 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 4: of ruined your impression a year prior. They'd be like, Mike, 306 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: what did you see out there? He'd be like, well, 307 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: they had a defense that was ready for our offense, 308 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: and well, we really weren't able to figure it out 309 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: during the game. I guess we'll go back and we'll 310 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: look at the film and we'll see what what needs 311 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 4: to be done. Then he comes back to net year, 312 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: He's like, well, I mean they really beat our ass 313 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: this day, and I mean we really I really don't 314 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: know what what what happened today, But I think we're 315 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: going to go back and we're going to look at 316 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: the film and we're gonna make sure that we make 317 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: the proper adjustments that we need to make. 318 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 3: Like it just did you if you just he was 319 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: so much better off when he sounded like a pothead 320 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: it's basically the whole world. 321 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought he was the kid that got 322 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: sent to the principal's office and was explaining to the principle. 323 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: But I mean high is is that? I mean that 324 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 4: might fit as well? Maybe might it might fit? It 325 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: is the uh is the Herd. 326 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 3: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox and 327 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: for Colin. 328 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 4: All right, so coming up next here, there's an. 329 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: Interesting story in the world of football and how it 330 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: impacts your favorite team moving forward, We'll get the answers 331 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: right here on The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. 332 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 333 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 334 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 335 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: Hey, what's up everybody? 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You see him during Big New Kickoff throughout 354 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: the course of the season. Best selling author, you can 355 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: get him on ex at Bruce Feldman CFB Bruce, Good Morning, 356 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: slash afternoon. 357 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: How are we feeling doing good? 358 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: Actually at Big twelve Media Days check, just ran into 359 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 6: a guy I think you guys know very well, partner, 360 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 6: Brady quint Oh. 361 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: Okay, figure look at that. Tell them we said hello, 362 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: I was telling you miss him? Yes, please do. There's 363 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: a lot of people missing him, such social so what 364 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 4: can you tell us here? 365 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 3: Just in looking at this whole story that's broken in 366 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: college football when it comes to Texas Tech and the 367 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: recruitment of Felix Ojo. What can you tell us about 368 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 3: how this all started and sort of where we're at 369 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: because we're seeing different reports of what the actual contract is. 370 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: Saw the five point one and then it was two 371 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: million and change. What do you know of the deal 372 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: thus far? 373 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, So the story broke on July fourth, and I 374 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: was I was offline. I was with my family on 375 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 6: the holiday, and then the next morning, so my college 376 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 6: at the Athletic we were trying to confirm that what 377 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 6: was reported for five point one million dollars for three 378 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: years and ended up making a bunch of calls and 379 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 6: talking to people at Texas Tech who were who would know, 380 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: and myself and my two colleagues. We had talked to 381 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 6: several people in the process and they said, actually the 382 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: figure is for seven seventy five each year for three years, 383 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 6: and it's not the five point one. Now, there was 384 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 6: a caveat to that, which was that if things change 385 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 6: in the revenue sharing model, or if there's a lot 386 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 6: of deregulation, then maybe. 387 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: It can get up in a. 388 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 6: Five million range. But the deal right now is for 389 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 6: what we were reported at the athletic, which was three 390 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: years at seven seventy five per We had talked to 391 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 6: the agent involved, and the agent had said, no, it's 392 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 6: five point one. But when we had asked for some 393 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 6: confirmation of that, if he declined to offer that, and 394 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: so based on what we know and what we could 395 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 6: confirm that it was significantly less than what we're imported 396 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: on Friday. 397 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: I have so many questions. Let's start here with the agent. 398 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 4: You got to believe the agent is trying to push 399 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: that number to the figure that he's pushing it to 400 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 4: because they have no intentions of staying at Texas Tech. Correct. 401 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: The idea that is is if we can say we 402 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: got to guarantee three year contract that that totals out 403 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: to the five million range, then if we're coming here, 404 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: you got to be in that. You got to be 405 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: in that parameter or within that realm of compensation for 406 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: us to even consider coming to your school. That's what 407 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: I would assume would be the priority of the agent 408 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: represented these college athletes at this point. I mean, would 409 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: that be safe to say. 410 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 6: Well, I think the LaVar I think on what's going 411 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 6: on here is you know the agent who you probably 412 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 6: you know either were you coorted by, you know, going 413 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 6: into the NFL or work created. I think those are 414 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: you know, a lot of them are. They're certified agents, 415 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 6: and it was a different landscape than what we have now. 416 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: There's a lot of nil agents who aren't certified by anybody, 417 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 6: and they're trying to get established. And so you'll see 418 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 6: a lot of times on social media, whether it's on 419 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 6: Twitter or whatnot or Instagram, you'll see the people credit 420 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 6: and just say so and so told me, and they'll 421 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 6: reference the agent and maybe they'll even include their Twitter handle, 422 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: and it's a way for them to build that person's 423 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: brand and help them kind of get established. But also 424 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 6: it is a way for that agent to try to 425 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 6: set the market or reset the market because most people, 426 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 6: you know, I'm hearing at the Big twelve and the 427 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 6: other schools have no idea how much Texas Tech really 428 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: probably is on the hook to pay. But they just 429 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: think maybe happens is the first dollar figure that's put 430 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 6: out there that people see on social media, that's the 431 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: one everybody ends up running with, and especially if it's 432 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: the biggest one. So now it's like that's the one 433 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: gets passed around. Well, is that the going rate for 434 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: a five star offensive lineman five point one million for 435 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: three years or is it what they are actually you know, 436 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 6: on the hook for so I think. 437 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: That'd be the easy answer. The easy answer to that 438 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: is it can't be the going rate because nobody does it. 439 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: You can't project out to year three, nobody does it. 440 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: And and let me just ask this before I turn 441 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 4: back over you Jones. But in terms of guarantees, like 442 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: and hearing that that guarantee figure being a part of 443 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 4: the conversation, I mean, what type of language, Because I 444 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: was just saying during the break, if my kid, which 445 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: he got, offered more money from other schools than the 446 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 4: school he ended up going to. But if my if 447 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: they offered a guaranteed contract to my kid, you can't 448 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: put language in there buying him to a contract where 449 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: he has to stay there for the entire time. And 450 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: if you did, we wouldn't take that contract. There would 451 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: be no reason to accept a guarantee contract for three 452 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: years if you're saying you have to be here for 453 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: three years because we don't know what the circumstances hold 454 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: for him or your school during the course of that time. 455 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: But I want the money guarantee. If I'm a parent 456 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: or I'm an agent, I want to guarantee. Has there 457 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 4: been any conversation surrounding that? If he were to go 458 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: into the transfer portal having a guarantee contract for three years, 459 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: what happens then? Do they sue him? Do they sue 460 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: the school? They do they what recourse is in place 461 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 4: if you do a three year, three year deal, because 462 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: no one's ever done a three year guaranteed. 463 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 6: Deal right and there is I don't think there is 464 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 6: any guarantee, you know, in the true word guarantee, true 465 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 6: sense of it. I think that sounded good when he's 466 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 6: probably told the reporter as such, But right now there's 467 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 6: nothing that can be signed anyway because of the way 468 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 6: all of this is set up. You can't have a 469 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 6: signed contract right now that specifically would be against any 470 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 6: kind of rules of that. And so there's that. Then 471 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 6: there's the other part of it, when you can say 472 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: who cansue? 473 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 4: You can sue. 474 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 6: Anybody, and you know in the country, you know it 475 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 6: doesn't mean you're going to win, but I'm sure there'll 476 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 6: be potential for lawsuits. But think about it this way. 477 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: If you're uh, And I've had these reasons. The football 478 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 6: coach in the STATEY like if there if somebody's going 479 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 6: to lead to go to a different school, let's say 480 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: you know that's that's the second he wants to go 481 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: to Texas. Well, if you're a football coach, you want 482 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: to do you got to pay a buyout or you know, 483 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 6: if it's a contract, you have to get out of it, 484 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 6: and there's financial penalties that are often with that. And 485 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: so this thing is so different than I think the 486 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: contracts you probably add in the NFL or the contracts 487 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 6: that we see typically in pro sports, because you know, 488 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: you got to remember all of that after we see 489 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 6: your son puts in a suit. They're not employees, you 490 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 6: know that sachers are employees with college athletes right now 491 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 6: are not. They're not deeming that now. Maybe at some 492 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 6: point they'll get to that designation, but it's not right now. 493 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 6: So we're in I mean, it's still such a messy 494 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 6: situation all the way around. 495 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman joining us here on the Herd here Fox 496 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. You know, 497 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 3: it's not like, oh, Jo's the only one this week 498 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 3: especially for Texas Tech. You've got Ashton Rowden, who's the 499 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: four star cornerback or a four star running back. You've 500 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: got the four star cornerback in Donovan Webb. There's also 501 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: speculation that they're looking at Cooper Hacket, who's a five 502 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 3: star offensive tackle in the twenty twenty seven class. What 503 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: is the vibe there about Texas Tech at Big twelve 504 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: media days from people you talk to? Are they giving 505 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: them kind of the side eye? Are they looking at 506 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: it saying, hey, fair play. They figured this thing out 507 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: and they're going out and they're spending and they're getting 508 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: some of these top recruits. 509 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: It's next. 510 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 6: It's funny, like we sent these conversations. Were a couple 511 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: of coaches here. On one hand, one of them said, hey, 512 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: you know, I'm good for them if they can, if 513 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 6: they have it like that, I wish I had that situation. 514 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: Another coach was much more. He was like, I think 515 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 6: it's asinine how this is set up, and I don't 516 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: think that it's going to work this way, and wondered 517 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 6: that it just didn't see it as a sustainable model. 518 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 6: It's no, you know, like, I think it's great in 519 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 6: one sense if you're a fan of this school, You're like, 520 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 6: oh my god, we're beating Texas and we're beating Oklahoma, 521 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 6: and we're beating LSU for recruits. We never would have 522 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 6: beaten them before, you know. And so there's that. But 523 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: you know, I get why coaches who were actually in 524 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 6: the business in the middle of this and know it 525 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 6: and know what it's like to have a locker room 526 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 6: and to try to maintain a locker room. It's like 527 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: it's unsustainable. And so it's a fascinating experiment that's going on. 528 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: And love it's for sure right. 529 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 4: Now, there's so much that is on. It's just not 530 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: structured and and how can you have it structured when 531 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: you've never been here before and you don't have any 532 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: comps to be able to do it? And you mentioned 533 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: the whole employee deal, it's still not pay for play 534 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: like that is very, very prominent in how the language 535 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: is used as opposed to, you know, what is taking 536 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: place at the college level. So if you are not 537 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 4: a pay to play person, can you do that? Can you? 538 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: And I don't want to put you on a spot 539 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: if you don't have the information, that's fine, But I'm 540 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: just curious in terms of language, the house settlement versus 541 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: the NCAA versus nil. It has to maintain being nil 542 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: specific or you're turning them into paid employees if it's 543 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: just the university paying them. So when we talk about 544 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: the rev share payment of the twenty million that's capped 545 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: to pay these teams and where that money comes from, 546 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: how it's given to the athletes, what is the difference 547 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: now with that house settlement between the money that is 548 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: given from the revenue sharing and the nil. So say 549 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: it's like the collectives that are paying them an X 550 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: amount of dollars for or they're getting nil deals, you know, 551 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: with different companies, whatever it may be. Is there a 552 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: distinct difference between that house settlement revenue and the nil 553 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: and how these these athletes are getting paid for nil deals. 554 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: It depends on who you talk to. Certain schools say 555 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: it's not. Another school say it has to be. And 556 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 6: what you've seen is a lot of places and teams 557 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 6: and we're just talking about one of them, the most 558 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 6: prominent one. Now they have frontloaded their rosters and I 559 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 6: think you're seeing a lot of that go on where 560 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 6: teams are gonna have budgets of forty five and fifty 561 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 6: and fifty two and as high as fifty five million dollars. 562 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 6: Now you're telling me, all of a sudden, a year 563 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 6: from now, they're going to drop down less than half 564 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 6: of that. You know, we all know we worked around 565 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 6: sports and long enough, that's not the direction it ever 566 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 6: goes in. So and we also know that there's always 567 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 6: workarounds when it comes to college sports, whether it's a 568 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 6: bag man, whether it's a bag of McDonald's that's fulling cash. 569 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: The way that people have gained the system, why would 570 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: we think it's not going to happen with a lot 571 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 6: of these schools. 572 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: And you forgot car in the parking lot at the airport, 573 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: you know. 574 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: Bruce from somebody for somebody that covers college football. I 575 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: was making the joke, and I was half kidding yesterday 576 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: that it just it was so much easier when this 577 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: stuff was illegal, because we could just focus on, all right, 578 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: who's got the top recruiting class? However they got it, 579 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: they got it, but you you had the usual suspects. 580 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: And now you've got schools like Texas Tech who all 581 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: of a sudden, like, oh wait a second, like we 582 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: could be a part of this dance as well too. 583 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: I just I don't know how it lands with you, 584 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: but it feels like there's a lot of unanswered questions 585 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: and I just don't know when we're going to get 586 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: to the end where this is what it is, these 587 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: are the parameters and let's just focus on college football 588 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: and college football alone again. 589 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and for me, I mean that's kind of where 590 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: I land on it. It's like, all right, show me 591 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: who's going to be on the field, and we're going 592 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 6: to well, like I, you know, I don't have a 593 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 6: dog in the fight, you know where I just want 594 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 6: to see you. I still love the games, but like 595 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 6: you know, right now, it's just I've been around long 596 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 6: enough to know that there's always workarounds and there's always 597 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 6: people who will work in the margins. And it's different 598 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: than the NFL, where you know, you get on as 599 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 6: draft picks or fine if you have too physical a 600 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: practice or whatever they you know. But at some point 601 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 6: I think college football will get to a you know, 602 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 6: collective bargaining, but they're not there right now. And right now, 603 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: I think it's still going to be the wow. Well, 604 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: even if they try to pretend it's not, this is 605 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 6: this is the reality, and this is how they operate, isn't. 606 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 4: There isn't there a governing body? Just real quick that 607 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 4: they're they when they did the settlement that they get 608 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: to or like a clearinghouse that they make sure it's 609 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: kind of telling you right. They can kill a deal 610 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: and say you're not supposed to get that kid. The 611 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 4: value of what you're paying him does not match what 612 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: it is that the kid is doing. Where does where 613 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: does that fall in? Where is that used? 614 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 6: I I We're going to see how that plays out, 615 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 6: because you also have to get the cooperation from all 616 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 6: these ni L agents to put them the paperwork. Are 617 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 6: they really going to all do that? What are they? 618 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: You know? 619 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 6: I just think there's a lot of things when it 620 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 6: comes to Deloitte, who's going to be the accounting from 621 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 6: that's going to be involved with this, and the mL 622 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 6: former MLB executive who's now you know, kind of the 623 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 6: top top of this. I believe it when I see it, 624 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 6: just because we've seen I'm talking to too many coaches 625 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: who are just kind of like rolled up their sleeves 626 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 6: and are like, oh, yeah, this is going to be 627 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 6: a mess because they know that's the you know, it's 628 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 6: not like the people involved they're not different. There's just 629 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 6: more middle men involved and there's just more more rules 630 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 6: to kind of navigate for circumvent if we want to 631 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 6: look at it. 632 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 633 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman, Fox College Football Reporter Part one, Bruce Analysts 634 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: Part one, Financial. 635 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: Guru, Now a lot of meat on it. 636 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: Also read his stuff on the Athletic Get him on 637 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: ex at Bruce Veldman CFB Live from Big twelve Media Days. 638 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: Bruce always appreciate it, man, thanks so much and hope 639 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: to do it again. 640 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, buddy, Yes, sir, take care alrighty, there is 641 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: Bruce Flman with us here. So much to discuss. Man. 642 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: The rabbit hole is such a deep rabbit hole, man, 643 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: and it's dark. I'm telling you, it's a dark rabbit hole. 644 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: This is going to get I see it getting ugly 645 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 4: before it gets better. There's a whole lot to work 646 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: through with already pulling the trigger on allowing this this 647 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: type of funds to go out and and somebody who 648 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: brings them funds to the table. It's just it's so much, 649 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: so much to it, and I've been you know, I've 650 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: been immersed in this for since it's happened. Jonas like 651 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: I've I've been connected to it and in several different 652 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: manners and capacities, and it is so confusing. It's so 653 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: even having it organized and understood, it's still very confusing. 654 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 4: And if it's confusing to people who are really really 655 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: in it and learning it and using it, then you 656 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: got to believe that everybody else is in the same 657 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: in the same uh situation. You know, It's it's not 658 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: very easily to understand because there are a lot of 659 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: things that are not in place that need to be 660 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 4: in place. Structurally speaking, there is not an infrastruy structure 661 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: in place where the current state of college athletics can 662 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: thrive and be successful in something's going to happen. It's 663 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 4: like trying to run a website. A web page that 664 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: isn't programmed the right way, it's going to crash and 665 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: you're going to lose all of the data and everything 666 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 4: that's connected to it. That's kind of what the NCAA 667 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: or what college sports is on that that trajectory right now, 668 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 4: it's going to crash. It is the Herd. 669 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox in 670 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: for Colin. Coming up next in the herdline News though 671 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: we've got a worst to first situation. 672 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 4: In the NFL. Find out who it is right here 673 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 4: on FSR. 674 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 675 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: at noon Easter not a Empacific. 676 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 4: Stretch marks. I was trying, what was that censor myself? There? 677 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: It's the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. More explitsives 678 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: in there, you know, LeVar Arrington Jonas knocks in for 679 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 3: Colin on top of next hour. A little over ten 680 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 3: minutes from now, we are going to talk about somebody 681 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: who's got a golden opportunity in the National Football League 682 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 3: coming up this season. That will be yours here a 683 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: little over ten minutes from now, before we get to 684 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: the second installment of the Herdline News here today, a 685 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: reminder that you're listening to us now, but did you 686 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: know you can also see us. Be sure to check 687 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search Fox Sports 688 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video 689 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you 690 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 3: always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos 691 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: on YouTube. 692 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: Now, this is the Herdline News. 693 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 4: Rye music. Yeah, what's going on? LeVar? 694 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 7: Was that that was self theory that song was Jonas's band, right, 695 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: good mom? 696 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got, I got off the track. Yeah, 697 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 4: I got, I got off the tracks. I was I 698 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: was shooting it and I got caught off the tracks. 699 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 4: And both of you guys clearly seemed like you were more. 700 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 4: All three of you guys were mortified by mine, you know, 701 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 4: jumping on the beat like that. I'm so sorry. What 702 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: saw is that? 703 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: Johnson? 704 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, he said more stretch marks. My bad. 705 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 4: I'll just just quote and you know that was my 706 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: people from Goodie Mob. I did see that CD and 707 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: hot topic, dang. 708 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 7: What's not a stretch is to say that the Raiders 709 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 7: have had their struggles over the years, Okay, only one 710 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 7: winning in the last eight years, but things are different 711 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 7: under new head coach Pete Carroll, their star pass rusher 712 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 7: Max Crosby saying those changes are already in place and 713 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 7: this is what Carroll has gotten accomplished in Vegas. Quote, 714 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 7: it's not fake energy, and it's not just him, it's 715 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 7: the assistant coaches, the whole building. It just feels different, 716 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 7: telling you, man. 717 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: How can you say it fake? You tried to be 718 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: when you've been in BS for so long, you lose 719 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 4: sight of what you and what's fake. I gotta see 720 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 4: it first. Every year I thought it was real in 721 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: Washington here, every year it was real. This is the 722 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 4: year new head coach coaches feel good, new coach staff 723 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 4: next year. This feels good. I feel great about it. 724 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 4: We're gonna make a run, new coaching staff next year. 725 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: Now, man, I'm just saying the Raiders, I said yesterday, 726 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: are gonna be the most feel good last place team. 727 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 4: That pule pump that pole, humps I won't that pole 728 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 4: right there? You see that one right there in front 729 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: of us. Now ten good ones on that itch. The 730 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: Raiders don't make the play. You're gonna try to hump 731 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 4: a pole. You gotta make it. You gotta make it 732 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 4: sway now that one right there. Then, then don't don't 733 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 4: say you believe it. 734 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 3: I believe they're the most hopeful last place team in 735 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 3: the NFL. They're gonna feel of all the last place 736 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL next year, the Raiders are gonna 737 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 3: feel the best about them. 738 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 4: So that's more breaking news than what was just stated 739 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 4: about Max Crosby. How this I am? That's breaking news? 740 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: What's your prom Max Crosby and PK. I love Max Crosby, 741 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 4: I just don't love this greater situation. I don't love 742 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 4: Max Crosby in the situation that he's as damn. I'm 743 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: just saying, I gotta wait and see it, try my best. 744 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 4: It feels different, all right, Let's go to break that 745 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 4: feels good. 746 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: One more Heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 747 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd 748 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: to listen life or on demand whenever you like.