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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This episode two sixty seven. I'm your hosts Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday evening. You're in mid September,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined as always, as often by my old

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Speaker 1: co host. He's been gone, He's been in the wilderness,

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Speaker 1: and by the wilderness, I mean overseas. Scott Coleman is back. Hello, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you hello?

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Speaker 2: Brad? It is good to be back with you. It

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Speaker 2: is good to be back stateside. Maybe the Braves are

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Speaker 2: not exactly playing the kind of baseball that we were

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Speaker 2: hoping for at this point. I mean, can you believe

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Speaker 2: there's two weeks left in this baseball season? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know it's been a bad year obviously, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like yesterday we were really excited and Opening Day

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Speaker 2: was right around the corner, and we were previewing that

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Speaker 2: West Coast road trip, and here we are two weeks

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Speaker 2: to go, and I mean, it's just kind of going

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Speaker 2: through the motions at this point.

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Speaker 1: It certainly is. I talked to good friend of the pod,

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Speaker 1: Grant McCauley, on the show a week ago today on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and I dropped that hey, three weeks left, and it

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Speaker 1: was kind of like, whoa, that's weird to say out loud.

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Speaker 1: And now it's two weeks left, and I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of ready for it now because I've been prepping

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But you've been gone, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, when you left, it was five

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Speaker 1: six weeks left, and now it's two. So it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. We're back a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: First of all, if you are new to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: we are Hammer Territory. The four of us, myself, Scott, Sean,

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Speaker 1: and Steven cover the Braves all year round and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. Please subscribe to the pod anywhere

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, et cetera. And

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Speaker 1: I just want to give a little everybody kind of

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a tea up. So Scott was traveling.

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Speaker 1: He could reveal as much as he wants to about

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Speaker 1: all of his world travel. But your last show, Scott

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Speaker 1: was with me on August twenty seven. It's been a

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Speaker 1: little while, right, A lot has happened since then. We

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Speaker 1: were laughing about this. I did text you several times

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Speaker 1: while you were gone, but I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: not even a full list of what happened while you

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Speaker 1: were gone, but a list of things that happened since

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Speaker 1: you left. In the last Drum Show.

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Speaker 2: It was like legitimately a surprise because, I mean, without

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Speaker 2: you know, the Dred deadline is behind us, and generally

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Speaker 2: it's pretty quiet, especially for teams that are not in

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Speaker 2: a playoff chase. September is generally a pretty quiet time

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Speaker 2: at the baseball calendar.

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Speaker 1: It is, And we've been laughing both on and off

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Speaker 1: the show about how the Braves had been at least

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Speaker 1: kind enough to give us some content because were kind

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Speaker 1: of worried about what we're going to talk about September.

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Speaker 1: But here's an abbreviated list of all the things that

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Speaker 1: have happened since Scott was on the show last first

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Speaker 1: and partmost you just alluded to it. The Braves added

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Speaker 1: Hassan Kim and a surprise kind of a blockbuster move

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Speaker 1: by waiver standards that happened like almost right after you left.

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy went down for four months or more with

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Speaker 1: an injury. Ron Kakuna Junior hit sixth or seventh in

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Speaker 1: the lineup in four consecutive games while you were gone.

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Speaker 1: Don't know how that happened, why that happened? Here we

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Speaker 1: are special. Strider shave his mustache while you were gone.

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Speaker 1: That got a lot of reaction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably the most noteworthy thing is that Strider.

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Speaker 2: I man Strider without a mustache. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'd recognize him if he was walking down the street.

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Speaker 1: Many people did not recognize him when he did that.

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Speaker 1: There's more. Michael Harris, who had been hot after what

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Speaker 1: and is still very muddy, if not more muddy since

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Speaker 1: the last time you were here. And in the not

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Speaker 1: important department, the Braves went five and eleven while you

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Speaker 1: more that happened. Drake ball when when I know a

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Speaker 1: slump we'll talk about later on. Matt Olsen's been hot.

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Speaker 1: He hit five home runs while you were gone. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole list of things that happen, Scott. But

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Speaker 1: while the team's placement in the baseball hierarchy has really

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was tuning in to basically every show

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe do you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: and when you know, when I saw that come through

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Speaker 2: But I mean, what a fascinating ad for the Braves

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Speaker 2: bringing on Kim. I think now that we've had a

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Speaker 2: I understand what the Braves are doing because clearly they

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Speaker 2: have been unsuccessful in adding a shortstop post Dansby Swanson,

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Speaker 2: and not just the Braves. I mean, really, if you

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Speaker 2: a lot of shortstops that have moved around, and not

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Speaker 2: only looking backwards, but also looking forwards, there's not much

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Speaker 2: interesting gamble, and I get what the Braves are doing.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll see if Kim ultimately decides to pick

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Speaker 2: up his player option. I think he's going to. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when I left, I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: They're starting shortstop for twenty twenty six by way of

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Speaker 2: a waiver claim that really, I think, not just locally

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Speaker 1: Sure, And you know, a couple of people were almost

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Speaker 1: trolling us about how we were talking about it, and

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Speaker 1: we did an emergency podcast, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: like as big as a move non injury division as

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Speaker 1: But he's been kind of as expected for me on

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Speaker 1: One of my talking points on the emergency episode even

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Speaker 1: alarm bells would be understandable. Or if he had hit

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. But he's basically been

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Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of glad about that, if that makes sense, Like,

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad to avoid both of those polls just

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. He's still just a good player

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Speaker 1: who's had injury issue injury issues, and there is a

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Speaker 1: this chance he's not. Still Like, there's a chance he

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Speaker 1: this move that you would have made as the Braves

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Speaker 1: that's probably the easies way to get into this, like,

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Speaker 1: would you have done this as Alex without knowing all

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Speaker 2: So, yes, the answer is yes. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: worthwhile gamble. And I'm making that answer on one moderate

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Speaker 2: assumption that Alexanthopolis has talked to twenty nine Baseball teams

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Speaker 2: about their shortstop and the availability of their shortstop, and

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Speaker 2: also the fact that Bobashett, who is a pending free agent,

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Speaker 2: is very likely not going to be a shortstop moving forward.

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Speaker 2: That's not just our opinion Ken Rosenthal was talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Moving forward, Bobaschet's likely not a shortstop and there's like

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Speaker 2: nothing else out there, Brad, I mean, unless they want

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Speaker 2: hard to trade for. Like teams don't give away their

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Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two year old shortstop prospects even if

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Speaker 2: they are flawed. I would sure think that Anthopolis has

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Speaker 2: worked the phones on it. So is Hasan Kim a superstar?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Is there some risk here? Yes, sixteen million dollars is

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Speaker 2: not nothing, assuming he picks it up. But I do

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Speaker 2: think Kim has probably in his best interest to take

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Speaker 2: that sixteen million dollars, put it in the bank, and

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Speaker 2: then try to bounce back and be healthy next year

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Speaker 2: and then hit free agency one more time as a

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Speaker 2: thirty one year old, because if he has a good

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Speaker 2: next time he becomes a free agent in about thirteen months.

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Speaker 1: We agree for sure, and I said to the time,

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Speaker 1: I'll reiterate it now. He doesn't have to be a

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Speaker 1: star to be worth sixteen million dollars with his skill set,

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Speaker 1: Like if he's just an okay hitter and plays above

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Speaker 1: every defense ave shortstop, that is what that is. That's

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Speaker 1: what the going rate is. I mean, that's that's what

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Speaker 1: that is. I mean there was a year Worland Orcio

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Speaker 1: was worth sixteen million dollars, Like they didn't pay him

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Speaker 1: that but the one year was the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: worth that much money now he was never worth that again,

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Speaker 1: but also on Kim's baseline, is far higher than Orlandoarci

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Speaker 1: I'll say this one even a step further. If he's

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Speaker 1: Dig in Okay, Scott, we will go down the entire

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Speaker 2: Well, and I mean I think that just one of

431
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Speaker 2: the things that have really come in my mind over

432
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks is just the Braves have

433
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Speaker 2: to add a good starting pitcher of some kind this offseason.

434
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Speaker 2: If people are healthy, feel great about Sale Schwallenbach, We'll

435
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Speaker 2: see about Strider. We're in a little Lopez who we're

436
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Speaker 2: gonna talk about a little bit later in the show.

437
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Speaker 2: Some encouraging stuff on Lopez, and there's a handful of

438
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Speaker 2: others and then Waldrop is shown. But I think it's

439
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 2: it's safe to say that this team very much needs

440
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Speaker 2: stability in the rotation, and it's it's a far cry

441
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Speaker 2: from that.

442
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Speaker 1: At the moment, I'm smiling because I have already seen

443
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Speaker 1: people making their starting pitcherless and acting as that the

444
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Speaker 1: praides don't need to add anybody because they are because

445
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 1: they because they get married to not it's not only Walter,

446
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Speaker 1: but they get married to Waldrop and they get married

447
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: to all the names that Smith Shauber, who could be

448
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Speaker 1: back next season at some point. Grant Holmes is not

449
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Speaker 1: having the surgery. I get it. If you want to

450
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Speaker 1: just list a bunch of names, you can get to

451
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Speaker 1: seven or eight guys. But we do this every year,

452
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Speaker 1: and I was gonna see it recently, Scott. We've been

453
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Speaker 1: We've been the ones batting a thousand on this where

454
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Speaker 1: we keep we going to the season saying, hey, then

455
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Speaker 1: they have enough pitching, people yell at us, and then

456
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Speaker 1: by May it's like, oh they don't have enough pitching. Cool, Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: So how many times I'm with you, how many.

458
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Speaker 2: Times do we have to do this, Brad where they're

459
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Speaker 2: they're starting Carlos Carrasco in July and August because they

460
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Speaker 2: don't have any pitching. I mean, it's it's silly go out.

461
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Speaker 2: They have to add a starting pitcher this offseason.

462
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Speaker 1: I agree, and we'll talk about that plenty, I promise

463
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Speaker 1: you in the coming days. Elsewhere from Friday, quickly Ronald

464
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Speaker 1: hit it home run, his first one since August twenty second.

465
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Speaker 1: That was good to see. It was in garbage time,

466
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Speaker 1: but it was a good swing. He looked good to me.

467
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Speaker 1: Had a single earlier on in the game look good.

468
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Speaker 1: Also had honestly one of the best plays I've ever

469
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Speaker 1: seen live in that game. It was this play. He

470
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Speaker 1: cut off the line drive to write and made a

471
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Speaker 1: throw that like only Ronnie can not only only any

472
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Speaker 1: but very few guys can make and hose a runner

473
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Speaker 1: at second base and in person just it's just a

474
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Speaker 1: little bit different. But even on tea, I've saw the

475
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Speaker 1: replay on TV, it did show it well. It wasn't

476
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Speaker 1: quite as good as the throw he made the third

477
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Speaker 1: base Roger this season, they like made national news that

478
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Speaker 1: one was different. But this play was. I mean, just

479
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Speaker 1: every once in a whiles like why are you well

480
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: run on Ronald Kunya, like what's wrong with you? Why

481
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: are you running against him? But that was I see

482
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Speaker 1: in person.

483
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Speaker 2: I would love to know for like that half second

484
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Speaker 2: when Ronald realizes somebody is running on him, Like what

485
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Speaker 2: goes through his mind and the excitement that hits him

486
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: because he's I mean, yeah, it's uh. It is a

487
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: treat to watch Ronald throw the baseball and good to

488
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Speaker 2: see him hit the homer. I know it was garbage time,

489
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Speaker 2: but he hit the ball hard and I'm sure just

490
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: yeah for the vibes. Let's hope Ronald is one healthy

491
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Speaker 2: and two has a good final two weeks of the season,

492
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Speaker 2: goes into the offseason, no restrictions, normal training, off season

493
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Speaker 2: workout program, and then let's get him back to that

494
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Speaker 2: MVP level player in twenty twenty six.

495
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Speaker 1: One more fast note from Friday. It didn't matter at

496
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Speaker 1: all to the game, but Eli White hit a pinch

497
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Speaker 1: hit home run on Friday, and that was This is

498
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Speaker 1: remarkable to me. That was the braves first pinch hit

499
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Speaker 1: home run since May of twenty twenty three. Now, granted

500
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: this is the DH era, I get it. You just

501
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: have fewer opportunities to have pinching at home runs. But still,

502
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: that's two and a half years without a pinch like

503
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: that's just very strange to me that would be that long.

504
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: But it happened justyan that.

505
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Speaker 2: White Hey, Eli white Man. He is a really nice

506
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Speaker 2: player to have on the bench. He does everything you

507
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: want a bench player to do. Yeah, he checks a

508
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: lot of boxes.

509
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Speaker 1: There is a contingent that I've seen that people think

510
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: that he's like I saw someone arguing I think it

511
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: was after that night that he should be like in

512
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: the mix to like play like a ben Zobrist, like

513
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: started every game role next year, and I was like,

514
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: what's a slow let's all slow down on everybody. He's

515
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Speaker 1: a great guy to have on the bench. He's also

516
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Speaker 1: a guy to have on the bench. That's what I

517
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: would say about the other way. But he can run,

518
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: he can hit okay, ish, defendable positions, very useful guy.

519
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: Saturday's game is like not even we're talking about really

520
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: they lost badly. It was seventeen to five combined Friday

521
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Speaker 1: and Saturday. Bryce Older though this is actually funny. On

522
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Speaker 1: the Scott was gone meter Bryce in in uh why

523
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: you were gone? So funny? Uh. He threw twenty to

524
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: third innings and allowed two earn runs while Scott was abroad.

525
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: The day Scott returned, he allowed six runs in three innings.

526
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: So maybe it's your fault.

527
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Speaker 2: If everybody listening to the show wants to contribute to

528
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: a GoFundMe, I will happily disappear. I'll find a nice

529
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Speaker 2: speach or somewhere nice to just you know, spend my days.

530
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Speaker 2: And that means that Bryce Elder will be a successful pitcher.

531
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Speaker 2: Then I will take one for the team, Brad, and

532
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: do what I must do for the betterment of the Braves.

533
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Speaker 1: It was just one of those funny things because I

534
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: have tried to make sure we at least acknowledge when

535
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Bryce pitches well, because we have picked on him plenty,

536
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: and he had been pitching pretty well for about a

537
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: month and then it was real bad on Saturday. So

538
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna that's just the Bryce Liver experience. I think

539
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: that's just what we what we've learned over low these months.

540
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: It's like, when it's good, it's actually good, but when

541
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: it's bad, it's very bad. And that's what happens. That's

542
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: why you're a seventh starter instead of a third starter.

543
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: Took the words out of my mouth. He is the

544
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: epitome of a seventh or eighth daughter. Every team in

545
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: baseball has one. Ideally, you're never giving the ball to

546
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: your seven through eighth starter, Lo and behold always happens

547
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: like it always does. And I think I think Elder

548
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: is going to lead the team in starts and innings

549
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: pitch this year, which is oh terrible.

550
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: It's good, that's not what that's not what you want. Hey,

551
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: he's been healthy. I'll give him that. He has been durable.

552
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Really his whole tenure, he's been durable, like he's been.

553
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: That's one of the strengths of Bryce Old is that

554
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: he's been out there able to pitch. And yeah, he

555
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: is like a very comfortableieve Like I think he's already

556
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: basically clinched the innings lead on the team he's at like,

557
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: and no one else who's still pitching is anywhere within

558
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: any range of him. Yeah, he's gonna leave the team

559
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: at innings for sure. That is confirmed.

560
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine me saying that out loud six months ago?

561
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: No, he was. I mean, this is a guy that

562
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: granted we were probably lower on him than most were,

563
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: but I thought he may not pitch at all this

564
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: season in the majors, Like maybe he would come up

565
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: for spot duty at some point when they inevitably have

566
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: an issue. When you got you just need you need

567
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: a but Bryce Elver making he's gonna make twenty eight

568
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: starts twenty nine. That's insane, Like that is where it happened.

569
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do, Brad, all off season long.

570
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: When somebody on YouTube or someone tweets us about the

571
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: Braves don't need a starting pitcher, I'm gonna just screenshot

572
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: Bryce Elder having the most starts in the most innings

573
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Speaker 1: for the Braves in twenty twenty five. I'm not gonna

574
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: respond other than just posting that picture, and I'm gonna

575
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: post that picture probably fifty times between November and February.

576
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: But dear God, they have to find some depth because

577
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: injuries are gonna happen. I think the Braves have been

578
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: hit worse than most teams in baseball in the starting

579
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: rotation by injuries the last two years.

580
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: But man alive. I mean, you would like to think

581
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: it can't possibly continue for a third year. But I

582
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: also don't want to be scraping the waiver wire DFA

583
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: folks for starting pitchers next summer. I mean, you just can't.

584
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: You just can't live that way, and you can't live

585
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: with Bryce Elder making twenty eight eight starts in the season.

586
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Seventeen pitchers have started a game for the Braves this season.

587
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be eighteen or nineteen by the end

588
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: of the year, which is nuts.

589
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: It could be even larger. Yes to your point quickly

590
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday that they did win today. They snapped a

591
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: losing streak, so that's a small positive a Sunday win.

592
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: Matt Olsen homer both day Saturday and Sunday. He's been good.

593
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: We did the spotlight segment on him Wednesday, so just

594
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: acknowledging Matt's been really good. He's been the best part

595
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of a team this year. Most valuable player by war

596
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: all the metrics, he's been good. This is more of

597
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: a like a not so fun fact for one side

598
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: of things. Craig Kimberrel pitched in Truist Park today. We

599
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: all remember how we I think rightly piled on the

600
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Braves for the bizarre Kimberl saga this season when they

601
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: brought him in for no apparent reason and then cut

602
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: him the next day. And I don't know what happened there,

603
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: but he pitched today interest for the first time in

604
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: two and a half years. Brice Fends loved Craig. They should.

605
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: I hope he got a warm ovation. I wasn't there,

606
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: that didn't hear it. But he did allow a home

607
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: run to Sandy Leone, who is the Braves backup catcher

608
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: right now in place of Sean Murphy. It was Leon's

609
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: first major league home run since twenty twenty one. Can't

610
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: get Scrig camerel So that was the highlight of today.

611
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. They won. Cool, awesome?

612
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: They won.

613
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they won. I did and said to do this light,

614
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: I'll do it now. There's been speculation already. I don't

615
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: know if you saw this because you were gone this weekend.

616
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: The Braves play the Pirates in the final series of

617
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: a season, and my projected rotation for that game for

618
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the Braves was Dal bru Han. I think, I said,

619
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Sandey Leon and then Rick Kranitz pitching the final game

620
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah baby, because right, Yeah, let's get

621
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: snit a couple of innings too, so he can go

622
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: out something that's a good tease for it. We'll talk

623
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Speaker 1: about in a second, but just so everybody knows why

624
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: I said, the Braves and Pirates are locked into part

625
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: of the race for the bottom if you were a

626
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: takeathon observer. The Pirates are a team you've been observing closely,

627
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and they want the Braves once. Today the Pirates loss

628
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040
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646
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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, let us get into some other non game

647
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: news topics, et cetera. You just alluded to one of them.

648
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you about We spent a

649
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: lot of time on this Wednesday, but you were not here,

650
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: and I want to get your fresh take on this

651
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: the Brian Snicker managerial saga. So for everybody that missed

652
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: this listening to the show, basically we have been cautioning

653
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: everyone the whole time. Like, no one said anything about

654
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Snitt retiring. There's been speculation from the media. Everybody's been assuming,

655
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: including us, that it was likely to happen, but no

656
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: one told Snip. Because Snick got asked about it three

657
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: or four days ago. He gave an answer that was

658
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: not definitely not I'm retiring now. He still could retire.

659
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: He didn't say he wasn't going to, but that of

660
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: course prompted a whole response in a news cycle. And

661
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Steve and I reminded every one that currently Brian Snicker

662
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: is not under contract for next season, which is another

663
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: interesting wrinkle in this thing. But and he thought of

664
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a farewell tour. Scott, It's September fourteenth. If they want

665
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: to do a farewell tour for Snith. Time's running out, thoughts.

666
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I still think there's a real chance we do get

667
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: the farewell tour. I think it's obviously going to be

668
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: very abbreviated. I just can't see the Braves bringing Brian

669
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Snicker back. And I know Alexanthopoulos has been very buttoned

670
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: up with how he was talking and that in his

671
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: mind he hasn't even thought about replacements for Brian Snicker.

672
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: That's I mean, come on, that's not true, Steve. I

673
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: think Stephen actually swore and I might have tried to

674
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: bleep it out on the show on Wednesday about this topic.

675
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I won't say what he said, but I think the

676
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: sentiment was that it's not true, Alex. There's no way.

677
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: There's no way, Scott. You're a comfortball guy like I am.

678
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: The whole thing always is that every ad in the

679
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: country has a list somewhere in their top drawer, on

680
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: their phone and the notes app wherever it may be.

681
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Everyone everyone has a list. Yes, I'm sure Alex. I'm

682
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: sure Alex does too, Yes.

683
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: But I get it like this. Alexon Thoppless is a

684
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 2: very seasoned, buttoned up veteran correct and Brian Snicker's been

685
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: around this team for fifty years, and he has a

686
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: World Series, and he has a World Series four years ago,

687
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: and other than this year, and other than the first

688
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: year and a half when he took over for Freddy

689
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Gonzalez with a just pitiful roster Braves, the Braves have

690
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: been very, very good. So nobody wants to be the

691
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: person who basically kicks Brian Snitker out. But the fact

692
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: that he does not have a contract, He's managed the

693
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 2: entire year without a contract, everyone around the team thinks

694
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: that snid is going to retire. He's getting up there

695
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: in age. He always talks, and he lights up when

696
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: he talks about his kids and being with his family

697
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: because frankly, he hasn't had a ton of family time

698
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: over the last fifty years because he's been managing and

699
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: been so married to the game all this time. So

700
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: whenever I saw those comments from snit and from Alex

701
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: about the future, I raise my eyebrows, just like I

702
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: think everybody listening and watching the show did. But it

703
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: felt like to me it was just kind of nobody

704
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: wants to say out loud that yes, this is the

705
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: end for Brian Sticker, but I would be stunned. I mean,

706
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm at like ninety ninety five percent that he's done

707
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. Give him a big

708
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: old handshake, give him an honorary front office position for

709
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: the rest of time. Pay him salary if you want to. Yeah,

710
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: But I think it's fair to say with the in

711
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: game management and that is part, a big part, but

712
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: not the whole part of a manager's job, like, for example,

713
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: Gabe Capler. Like the players hated Gabe Kpler, that dude

714
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: could not command a clubhouse. That is something that Brian

715
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Sticker does phenomenal. You will never see a player disrespect

716
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Brian snicker. You will never see a player bad mouth

717
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Brian Sticker to the media. I'm sure he does things

718
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: that real player's wrong every now and then, but by

719
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: and large, very very positive clubhouse fives throughout his entire

720
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: tenure with the Braves, very little drama, et cetera, et cetera.

721
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: But I do think the in game tactician part of

722
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: the job has probably gotten away from him. And I'm

723
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: saying probably to be nice. We know how the playoffs

724
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: have gone. I don't want to put it all on

725
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: him because he's only sitting in the dugout. He's not

726
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: making the pitches, he's not swinging the bat. But I

727
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: think it's time for a fresh voice. It makes sense

728
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: coming off of a bad year. And sure, I'm sure

729
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: that Snit would have loved to have gone out on

730
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: top win a World Series, or even win the division

731
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: and fight and make a push in the postseason. But yeah,

732
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my very long, long winded way of saying.

733
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: It was interesting what was said, but I have to

734
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: think that Snit is done in two weeks.

735
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't think managers are worth fifteen wins or something like.

736
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I see something crazy like

737
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: if the Braves had Ron Washington, they would they'd be

738
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: they would be first in the vision, Like, no, you're

739
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: out of your mind. The players have to play, like

740
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I get it, vibes can, but this stuff matters. I'm

741
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: not We are not on this podcast generally. You can

742
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: correct me if if you want to, Scott, we are

743
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: not zealous on the like nothing matters. Like there are

744
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: people that think the clubhouse stuff doesn't matter at all.

745
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually not that. I don't think that I am

746
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: an analytical person. I think the players playing matters more

747
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: than all that other stuff. The vibes do matter. I

748
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: do think that on some like.

749
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: These guys are around each other every single day for

750
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: eight months out of the year. The vibes in the

751
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: clubhouse and the way that everything is handled absolutely matters.

752
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying that because I'm sure people some people

753
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: think probact because we like numbers and we go into

754
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: numbers that like that. That stuff matters too. I just

755
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: don't want to ignore the off field stuff. And you

756
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: did a great job with that s It's good at

757
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: that stuff. He's renowned. Everybody likes the guy. I think

758
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: it's time to go to We'll see. It's a tough

759
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: spot for Alex because you don't want to be seen

760
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: as the guy firing Sicker. That's bad. I mean, people,

761
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: there are lot of people, There are a lot of

762
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: people that we might follow and that run in our

763
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: circles that might actually be celebrating when Sticker is gone.

764
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of Brace fans who do

765
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: not want Sticker to leave, who like Brian Sticker a lot,

766
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: probably too much, like you might have given him a

767
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of credit when we didn't always like, there's a

768
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: split there, and it's a bad, bad bad pr for

769
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Alex to be seen as you know, shiving Brian Sticker

770
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: on the way out the door, like that's not good. Yeah,

771
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: for all the things you said fifty years all those things.

772
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: So it's delicate, but the fact that he isn't a

773
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: contract doesn't make it easier. You could just it's the

774
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: longest Sticker decides to play ball. In whatever instance, there

775
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: is a way for Alex to be like, you know what,

776
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: we're not going to give you a deal for next year, Like,

777
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: let's just make this announcement now. We'll let you do

778
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: it if you want to. If you want to say

779
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm retiring, cool, that makes it easy on everybody. We

780
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: don't know how that's going to happen. But if they

781
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: do want a moment for everyone to be like hey, snit,

782
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: good on you. They got to do it like soon,

783
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: like we're almost there, like yeah, and look you have

784
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. I don't want to

785
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: overstate that either, because look, if if they don't say

786
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: anything at all and he retires or isn't retained opening

787
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: day next year, you can be like bridsicker day, like

788
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: there's a way to do it. That's not a farewell tour,

789
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: but it would be easier if it was the farewell tour,

790
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I think for vibes, doesn't it kind.

791
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Of feel like snit in his like media availability before

792
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: a game on a Wednesday, would just kind of come

793
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: out and say, Hey, guys, I'm retiring, Like.

794
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean maybe yeah, he might be in the dugout

795
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: one day, just might be like, yeah, I don't think

796
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, and I'm sure I don't knows. I'm

797
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: sure I think Alex might silently be like, thank god,

798
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: he did that to save everybody in trouble, not because

799
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: he wants to Nick Gone that badly, but because just

800
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: you don't want the circus. You don't want the drama

801
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: of it all. You want it to be easy one

802
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: way or the other.

803
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Office, Brad, Not like you have,

804
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: but I have seen great episode. Early on Michael has

805
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: to fire someone, and he's just hoping that somebody will

806
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: voluntarily quit so he doesn't have to fire somebody. That

807
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: is exactly what's going through Alex's head, like, please, Lord,

808
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: please retire. Please let me make you super special assistant

809
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: to the general manager. We'll name the clubhouse after you,

810
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: We'll name a suite after you whatever the braves have

811
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, and the grass is not always greener.

812
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: Let's say that you do not know how things are

813
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: going to go. But I think it's time. I think

814
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: this has run its course. Incredible man, incredible career, but

815
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: I think it's time.

816
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: And Alex has done all the right things so far

817
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: to say it'll be a brave for life, all those comments,

818
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: but he also hasn't said snit's the manager next year.

819
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: He's kind of given him the out to say all

820
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: this anyway, So we'll stop. But it's a topic to

821
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: follow over the next two weeks because it could go

822
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: any of different directions. Look, I think the chances of

823
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: him back are probably higher than you do. I think

824
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: they're pretty low. But I would not fall on the

825
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: floor if we get the blue square Brian sticker has

826
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: been extended for twenty twenty six tweet. I would not.

827
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like that particularly, but I would not be

828
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: as surprised as some would be if that were to happen.

829
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: That'd be a very bravezy thing to do. I still

830
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: think it won't happen, but I would not literally be

831
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: like driving in traffic and we off the road. If

832
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: that were to happen, I'd be kind of prepared for it.

833
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: The timing would just be so weird.

834
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: It's all it's all weird, like the fact that we

835
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: talked about with Stevens would have to do the whole

836
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: thing again. But the fact that he entered this season

837
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: at all on an expiring contract is already weird. It

838
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: was already weird then, and now they've had this terrible

839
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: season and it's like the pr Boy. It's gonna be

840
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: an interesting couple weeks on that front. And also they

841
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: might just let it go for a couple weeks after that.

842
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: They don't have to do anything right away, they probably

843
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: should because if you want to hire a manager from outside,

844
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: you need to go ahead and start doing that, Like

845
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: you don't want to have even if Alex has the list,

846
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: and he probably does, unless you're promoting from within, which

847
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: I presume would be Walt Weiss. If you if you're

848
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: going to do that, Unless you're doing that, you're going

849
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and that means you gotta call that guy

850
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: and get it. I mean, even even if it's somebody

851
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: that people flow all the time, like David Ross doesn't

852
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: work for the Braves, so like you gotta you gotta

853
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: call and hire David Ross if you want to hire,

854
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: if you want to hire David Ross. So interesting times

855
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: ahead on that front. All right, Scott elsewhere quickly before

856
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: we get out of here. We're on a Lopez uteazed

857
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: it earlier. He threw on Friday people, I guess talk

858
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: to the media as well. He's going to Northport to

859
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: get ready for some more ramp up. He's not gonna

860
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: pitch this year. We know that already. But he did

861
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: got a two pillars here. I'm gonna throw the other

862
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: one to you. The first one. He did kind of

863
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: soften up his stance of like I am a starter,

864
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: and he said, I kind of prefer to be a starter,

865
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: but I'll do whatever they asked me to do, which

866
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: is not a huge difference, but it does a meaningful

867
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: one because we're not used to be a reliever. He

868
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: was good at it. Starters have more value than relievers.

869
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Every once in a while we'll get a question like

870
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: why don't they make so and so a reliever, And

871
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: it's because the answer is always because starters are more

872
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: valuable than relievers. That's why they let him start in

873
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: the first place. Grant Holmes same thing. That's why they

874
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: don't every time we get a comment, it's a strategy

875
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: to be the closer. I'm like, no, stop, don't do

876
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: that Smashov because he throws hard. Whichever player, the answer

877
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: is always, until you prove you can't be a starter,

878
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: they're going to want you to start if you're good enough.

879
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: And Ronaldo has been good enough. But that's that was

880
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: an interesting, little tiny nugget. I thought. The other one

881
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: I want I want you to talk about because it

882
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: was reported by dB, but it has to do with

883
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Renald's health.

884
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: It was really I think encouraging to hear where Rinaldo

885
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: was after being away. But you know, according to the

886
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: report from David O'Brien, Ronaldo said that he feels pain

887
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: free in his shoulder now for the first time in

888
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: multiple seasons.

889
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: When she caught my.

890
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: Eye, it was like, oh, well, I mean he he

891
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: was fantastic last year throwing. I mean he was legit.

892
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: I think he led the.

893
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: National League in e RA or was awfully close to it.

894
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean he made he made also he made also

895
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: team had a one point nine on the ERA last year.

896
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was a legitimate star. Maybe like

897
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: the best pound for pound off season addition that any

898
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: team made last winter. And yeah, I was encouraging to

899
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: hear that he's been throwing. And hopefully we'll have a

900
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: normal off season of ramp up and strength building and workouts.

901
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: And in terms of the starter verse reliever thing, I

902
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: think we just I think the Braves are in a

903
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 2: fascinating spot because if healthy, I think you feel really

904
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: good about Spencer Strider. I'm sorry Spencer Schwellenbach and Chris

905
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: Sale and that's kind of it. And they have all

906
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: these other guys who were weird in different ways. Like

907
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: with a normal offseason, it's Spencer Strider gonna be awesome again.

908
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Is he just gonna be pretty good?

909
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Is he? I think he will be good. I think

910
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: he will be good. But I understand your point for sure.

911
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like a legitimate question, what kind of workload can

912
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: wh Aal the Lopez do, What can Grant Holmes do?

913
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: What if anything do they get from a J. Smith

914
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Shauver or what do they add this Offstein, Like, there's

915
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: a lot of intrigue here. We talked about Hirston Waldrip

916
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: earlier in the show. There's a lot of intrigued with

917
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: this rotation. I think if things break right, it could

918
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: legitimately be of maybe the best rotation in baseball, top three,

919
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: top five. We saw that last year. But that's also

920
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: like a massive if, because Lord knows, this team is

921
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: not stayed healthy in the pitching department for multiple years.

922
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: It is a reminder when you bring that up that

923
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: the Braves last season led all of baseball and starting

924
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: pitcher strikeouts, and they were third in all baseball and

925
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: starty pitcher ERA number one in the National League. Yeah,

926
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: they had a top three or four rotation in baseball

927
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: literally one year ago, and this year it's not been

928
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: that because of all kinds of things, but it is.

929
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: It is why I remember that. And Rella is good

930
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: encapsulation to that. Like, I don't think any of us

931
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: ever thought Ronaldo was a true talent one point nine

932
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: to nine ERA guy, Like he had kind of a

933
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: good fortune season last year, but he has been good.

934
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: He was still good last season. He just happened to

935
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: get hurt. But the fact that he's been I mean

936
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: multiple seasons could be a long time, but that just

937
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: that does mean he probably pitched with a shoulder issue

938
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: of some kind literally last year when he was awesome.

939
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: So whether that's good or not, we'll see. I think

940
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: I would give Ronaldo the chance to start unless the

941
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: unless the medical staff, which obviously knows more than we do,

942
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: thinks that he shouldn't. Like there's gotta be a medical

943
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: reason for him to not start for me. And if

944
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: you get to the point next year where he just

945
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: does he's not good enough to start, there is the

946
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: fallbacks should putting him bullpen. But if I'm going to

947
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: spring training and once there's a medical concern he's starting

948
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: for me, like that would be what I would want

949
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: to do.

950
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: It's so much easier to ramp up to be a

951
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: starter and then go to the bullpen than the other.

952
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: Other around route. Yeah exactly, Yeah, for sure. Speaking speaking

953
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: of being pain free, you missed the Sean Durfy the

954
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy discourse while you were gone. We don't have

955
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: to do it all now, But the part that I

956
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on was the Sean didn't

957
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: tell anybody of it all that that's what became a

958
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: national story. So I listened to effectively Wild, a great

959
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: national podcast Ben Loberg mcrowy. They did a whole segment

960
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: about this. I know others did too. The part that

961
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: made the national round was not that Murphy got hurt.

962
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: It was that Murphy had been hurt for a long

963
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: time and didn't tell anybody, which, even as a we

964
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: are known probably too much as being approch approach on

965
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: market podcast, we all we all ripped him to some

966
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: buried degree. We were all negative about that too. You

967
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: got tell someonere that's my opinion. What do you What

968
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: was your reaction across the pond when that came across.

969
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am alive. If you are hurt, say something like,

970
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: I know, I get it. Man, Like, nobody wants to

971
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: be the one who's making injury excuses. Hell, we heard

972
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: like a month and a half ago Akunya came out

973
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: and said, you know, he felt like he missed too

974
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: much time and he wanted to play through it, and

975
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: then he got hurt again and he missed time and

976
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: he wasn't very good after he returned. So for Murphy,

977
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: the fact he's been did I see four years that

978
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy's been dealing with this problem? Now?

979
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: I think it was at least three. Yeah, it's been

980
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: a while.

981
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it explains some of the extremely Jeckyll and

982
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: hyde nature that Sean Murphy has been with the Braves.

983
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: Seemingly he's either like in the running for National League

984
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: Player of the Month or he's in an zero for

985
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: thirty skid. And that's very much been the Sean Murphy experience.

986
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: And hopefully, with a off season to recover, he'll be

987
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: mostly normal by spring training. And you know, this is

988
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: all assuming that Murphy's on the team next year, but

989
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: I think the surgery makes it even more likely that

990
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 2: he's going to be back.

991
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: I think we're.

992
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: Also seeing over the last two weeks Drake Baldwin has

993
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: hit something of a wall. Now, maybe that's the rookie wall,

994
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe it's the catcher in Atlanta wall. Maybe he's just

995
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: running in to two bad weeks of luck, right, But

996
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: whatever it is, I think it's pretty clear the Braves

997
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: want to run a tandem of catchers. So I think

998
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: it makes it even more likely that Murphy is back

999
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: next year. In some kind of situation, I could probably

1000
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: talk for an hour about the catchers and the dh

1001
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: and the outfield. I thought you and Steven had a

1002
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: really good conversation on the most recent episode of the show.

1003
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean for Murph, I hope he's one

1004
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: hundred percent now. I hope the surgery is successful. I'm

1005
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: glad he finally said something because play man like, just

1006
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: say it, and if it's a four or five month

1007
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: recovery time, say it, and then get the surgery in

1008
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: the offseason. And if you have to miss the first

1009
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, then miss the first couple of weeks.

1010
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: It was just another thing, like I know, a couple

1011
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: of people have joked every time the Braves do a

1012
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: roster move, it's like the Braves added this player to

1013
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: the roster. Additionally, somebody's arm has fallen off, or additionally

1014
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: somebody grew four new toes overnight.

1015
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: It's like trail, Yeah, the old organ trail. It's like

1016
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: you got dysentery. Yeah, it's it's been it's been tough,

1017
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: and there is a I know everybody's been having the

1018
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: organizational thing, like is this a culture problem? Like we

1019
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: don't know is the answer to that really, But the

1020
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: Braves have had a culture thing of guys playing through

1021
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: stuff that they shouldn't been playing. I mean, you don't

1022
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: have to go remember when Freddy was playing the wet newspaper,

1023
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Like that was maybe the epitome of this was the

1024
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: was the team leader, visibly not being able to swing

1025
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: and still playing and not refusing to sit. This has

1026
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: been happening for a while. It's not necessarily everybody, but yeah,

1027
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: just tell them if you're hurt, man, just say you're hurt.

1028
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: It's bad. Like anyway, done and done on Baldwin. He

1029
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: has been bad lately, hopefully. The only real storyline, honestly,

1030
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: like on field the last two weeks of this season,

1031
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: is like, please get hot for two weeks Drake, because

1032
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: right now he's the underdog, albeit kind of slightly. He's

1033
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: plus one thirty five according to our friends at DraftKings

1034
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: toin Rookie of the Year, but Kate Horton is the

1035
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: favorite now because Drake's been cold at a bad time.

1036
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: It would be good for the Braves and for Drake

1037
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: and everybody if he had a hot finish. But right now,

1038
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: if you did the voting today, he probably wouldn't win.

1039
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: So maybe not for sure he stok a win. I'm

1040
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: just saying it wouldn't be like a slid knock.

1041
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: The odds always seemingly changed, like by the day, it

1042
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: feels like Baldwin was the favorite and then he was

1043
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: like tied, and then he wasn't the favorite, and then

1044
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: he was the favorite for like forty eight hours.

1045
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's three of his last thirty six. That

1046
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: will hurt you. And if the race is close, you

1047
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: are going to fall if you have a stretch with that.

1048
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, big big end.

1049
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Let's hope had Sunday off Baldwin did, and let's hope

1050
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: it kind of gets him some his legs back underneath him.

1051
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's wearing down a little bit. Of course,

1052
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: he's been out there pretty much. I mean maybe what

1053
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: two out of three days for the better part of

1054
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: six months now, of course his first time going through

1055
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: a full major league season, but overall a fantastic rookie

1056
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: season for Baldwin. Let's hope that he can kind of

1057
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: help the team out get Rookie of the Year, which

1058
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: is not only a great honor, but would also get

1059
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: the extra draft pick.

1060
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: For sure, we're gonna get out of here a couple

1061
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: of roster things quickly, not even really much to add.

1062
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: Jake fre to hit the iel, another guy in the il,

1063
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Luke Williams, came back. I bet you luc Wayias will

1064
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: pitch at some point in the next two weeks. My

1065
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: guess on that Day's Bell is on the il with

1066
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: shoulder inflammation. The quiet part about Dayzebell is that he's

1067
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: been a bad major league pitcher. I know people love him,

1068
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: but he's been bad.

1069
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: I have learned, I was gonna say, I have learned

1070
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 2: whenever I talk about days Bell, I think the fan

1071
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: base as a whole, like has favorites or players they

1072
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: like or don't like more than they should. I've learned

1073
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: that a lot of people love DayZ Beell Hernandez.

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00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've.

1075
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: Never seen it, man, Like I know, like two months ago,

1076
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: I made a comment about days Bell. I think it

1077
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: was talking about the closure next season, and everyone not everyone,

1078
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: but people were like, well what about Day's Bell? And

1079
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: I thought it was being pranked, Like what.

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00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: The guy's twenty nine years I have one stat for

1081
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: you that tells you all you need to know. Yeah,

1082
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: he's a twenty nine year old reliever with like a

1083
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: one to one strikeout the walk ratio. Like what else

1084
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: do you want he has? Granted it's seven innings, but

1085
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: he has thirty pre strikeouts and thirty walks this season. Yeah, Like,

1086
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Guys like that's not gonna work. So I'm

1087
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: not saying he can't be part of the bullpen next year.

1088
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: He can be, for sure, there's still some talent there.

1089
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: But uh, today, I mean, the reputation is far out

1090
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: pacing what he's actually been.

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00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it, but maybe I hope I'm wrong.

1092
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope he's great, but I.

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00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, you know why his era is three point four,

1094
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: and that's if there are people that can only if

1095
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: it's that one column that matters and nothing else matters.

1096
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: But his FIP is over five. So I can promise

1097
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: you this, if you go into next season, if he

1098
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: maintains this struck out the walk ratio, he will be bad.

1099
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm very very confident about that. Yeah, anyway, he's hurt,

1100
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: hopefully's not hurt bad. Obviously, shorter information could be a

1101
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: bigger shoulders are tough. If it's really bad, that's really bad.

1102
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: If it's not, it's not. Hopefully it's not for his

1103
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: sake as another option in the bullpen. And the last

1104
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: road trip of the season begins on Monday. The Braves

1105
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: play four Washington and then three in Detroit. By the way,

1106
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the four game series in Washington is over three days.

1107
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: They play Monday, a double header on Tuesday, and then Wednesday,

1108
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: before travel day. They did just announce as we were

1109
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: talking the probables at least some of the probables for

1110
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: the week. Strider is pitching Monday. It's been up and

1111
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: down for him, but you will get to see him

1112
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: for the first time, Scott with no mustache on the

1113
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: mount on Monday. Then Tuesday they had not said half

1114
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: of the rotation, but the other half will be for sale.

1115
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: And then Wednesday, Hirston Waldrup has been announced in the

1116
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: finale against Washington. So obviously there is more intrigue anytime

1117
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: one of Strider's Sale or Waldroup pitches, at least for me.

1118
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: But uh, that's what I would say about that. We'll

1119
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: see the And I am always a fan of having

1120
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: baseball on at one o'clock on a Tuesday, so that

1121
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: will be there on Tuesday ten o'clock today. I am

1122
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: for you.

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00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: I was going to say how many live human beings

1124
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: who paid American dollars for a ticket will be at

1125
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: that day game on Tuesday between the Braves and the Nationals.

1126
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how Washington draws. I mean, it's a

1127
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: tough ask on a Tuesday afternoon when both teams are

1128
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: out of the running. I would the only people there,

1129
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I would imagine are the total sickos or Braves fans

1130
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: who live up there and just want to see the

1131
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: Bravees because they're in toen Yeah. Yeah, uh. DC is

1132
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: a interesting town, like you get the whole locale. But

1133
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: it's I it's it's Tuesday at one I tough, tough yeah.

1134
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: Uh anyway, so that nope, nope, no, not on this podcast.

1135
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Uh anyway, that's the lay of the land when they

1136
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: come home at the end of the season. But two

1137
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: weeks left, thirteen games left in this quite frankly season

1138
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: from hell, and uh, here we are, Scott. I'm glad

1139
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: you're back. Thank you for being here. Good to be

1140
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: bit Brad.

1141
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: As always with you, Atlanta Braves fever catch it now.

1142
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: This is one of those times when Scott is a

1143
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: delirious one. Even though we recorded. This is like eight

1144
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. Scott hasn't slept and is on coffee

1145
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: and the Falcons are about to play, So my mental

1146
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: state's about to go downhill in a hurry. It's an

1147
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: interesting Sunday night. But I'm glad you're here. That gives

1148
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: me cover from when I go out of the country

1149
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I could say, well, Scott did it,

1150
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: so there we go.

1151
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: Yes, the show goes on. You me, Stephen, Sean will

1152
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: keep going, and even when the regular season end, if

1153
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: you're new, we will keep going throughout October. Kind of

1154
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: previewing the off season, probably a little bit of playoff

1155
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: baseball talk, and then once the off season starts, it

1156
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: kind of gets rolling. I mean, we have plenty to

1157
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: talk about. There's certainly no shortage of things on the

1158
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: immediate horizon for the Braves, both roster moves, coaching, who's

1159
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: going to manage I mean, there's a lot of things

1160
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: in the next maybe six weeks that are going to

1161
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: be really interesting for this team.

1162
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, So please keep it locked here. Please

1163
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,360
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1164
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,320
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1165
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,600
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1166
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: Just take one second and smash subscribe on YouTube, even

1167
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: if you never watch. Do that for us same way

1168
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: the other way around. If you're a YouTube watcher cool.

1169
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: Thank you. Please subscribe on Apple or Spotify or whatever

1170
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: as well. That helps us and rains reviews all that

1171
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: fun stuff. Follow Scott at Scott Coleman fifty five for

1172
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: all of your Indianapolis Colts Arizona football.

1173
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm going to change my handle

1174
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: to like Daniel Jones fan or something like that.

1175
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you're two and oh Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, and

1176
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: this was the other half of this podcast. I'm sure

1177
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: Steven would have brought up a certain Colla football result

1178
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: on Saturday, but Sean's not here and I don't want

1179
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: to pile on so and also, I like, I like everybody.

1180
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm I'm pro. I have no I have

1181
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: no sec rooting a line, no sec rooting allegiances whatsoever.

1182
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: People assume I'm a Georgia fan. I'm not almost not

1183
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: an anti Georgia Burt. It is what it is. So Scott,

1184
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: thank you again. I appreciate it.

1185
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Man, my pleasure. Brad, good to be back. I'm gonna

1186
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: go slip take a nap. Yeah, the jet lag and

1187
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: time difference is kind of killing me right now. But hey,

1188
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: we got like an hour long show. On a Sunday

1189
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 2: night for a baseball team that is dead in the water.

1190
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: That's what we do here and again, as always, a

1191
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: big thank you to everybody for checking.

1192
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: Out the show, Thanks to Scott, Thanks to you the

1193
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 1: listener and viewer of this podcast. Subscribe to the show

1194
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: and we'll see everybody next time.