Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week from Reality with
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
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Speaker 2: I want to start this episode by saying this.
Speaker 1: So as you all know, we're here to recapitlate this
Speaker 1: episode of the Hospitals of Atlanta, and I have enjoyed
Speaker 1: this season a great deal. I love this season. The
Speaker 1: show is back. I'm also very honest, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Say this and Dust and Claudie have no idea how
Speaker 2: I feel, so I'm curious to get their thoughts. This
Speaker 2: episode wasn't my favorite, and.
Speaker 1: It hit me about the Grandada trip. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like this trip was great. And the reason why I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like this trip was great is because when
Speaker 1: you think about the real house spots of Atlanta, international
Speaker 1: trips right even you think about the other cities. But
Speaker 1: let's focus on Atlanta. Something iconic always comes out of
Speaker 1: the trip, an iconic read, an iconic moment of tears
Speaker 1: and personal story that you feel like is rich in storytelling,
Speaker 1: an iconic comedic moment comes out of it. Right as
Speaker 1: I was watching this episode on my couch trying to
Speaker 1: stay up, I did not enjoy this episode at all,
Speaker 1: and I did not enjoy this trip at all because
Speaker 1: nothing happened and what but what dawned on me was
Speaker 1: something is missing. Something is missing. Listen, the season is
Speaker 1: still great, the season is still great. But if I'm
Speaker 1: only talking about the Granada trip, this was not a
Speaker 1: great entertaining trip by no means whatsoever. And this trip
Speaker 1: needed a firecracker. This trip needed something. It needed it
Speaker 1: needed something to just push, not the envelope, push story forward,
Speaker 1: push conversations. There were so many nuances that was happening,
Speaker 1: but nobody was focused on getting down to the nitty gritty.
Speaker 1: And when you are a reality star, it's important to
Speaker 1: sit back and be like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2: Is what I call a force multiplier.
Speaker 1: If somebody who's able to poke things and say what's happening.
Speaker 1: The fact that it was this big thing about Britain
Speaker 1: kelag that fell so flat, and I felt like it
Speaker 1: felt flat because nobody was focused on trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what was happening, and I could care too less
Speaker 1: about this donations with britt it was it was a
Speaker 1: conversation that fell flat. This entire international trip was a
Speaker 1: zero to me. It was to me the worst trip
Speaker 1: in the history of a show.
Speaker 3: Well, I understand what you're saying, and I can see
Speaker 3: things through the lens that you're looking at them through.
Speaker 3: When it comes to this trip, there was a missing piece,
Speaker 3: and I think the missing piece there was connection. Right,
Speaker 3: We're deep into the throes of the season, we're approaching
Speaker 3: the end, and britt Edie unfortunately has not connected with
Speaker 3: the cast just yet. So attempts to have that big
Speaker 3: moment in conversation did fall flat because there was no
Speaker 3: connection there to really.
Speaker 4: Drive the non donation home. Right. The shit face had
Speaker 4: just arrived, right, so that was new.
Speaker 3: I think that kind of cast a new energy into
Speaker 3: the group that people had to first identify and then receive, right,
Speaker 3: So people were kind of still in the beginning stages
Speaker 3: of that and we just didn't see that moment based
Speaker 3: on the trailer that we saw at the mid season trailer,
Speaker 3: I think we're going to get a little something towards
Speaker 3: the end of the season at whatever that event is
Speaker 3: with Angela Oakley's moment that we can look forward to.
Speaker 3: But I agree we did not have that moment where
Speaker 3: there was the dinner with Claudia Tornini's ass up in
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, or we didn't have the moment where they
Speaker 3: were in Greece in season twelve. I believe that was
Speaker 3: and Ninie and Kenya had that big blow up. We
Speaker 3: didn't get the moment from season ten. I believe it
Speaker 3: was when they were in Toronto and they had that
Speaker 3: huge moment in the hotel about Yovanna and Porschia and
Speaker 3: Eva and Candy. We know we didn't get with that
Speaker 3: with Kenya and Nini and she said, you got all
Speaker 3: of that Bana and important was we missed?
Speaker 4: Yes, you did.
Speaker 3: And the ladies have not gotten excited yet this season.
Speaker 3: Now I will give them grace because this is a
Speaker 3: brand new cast, right, a brand new grouping for the
Speaker 3: type of conflict that interests us and viewers that have
Speaker 3: since that shit has to simmer and brew and cook.
Speaker 3: So maybe it took a season of them getting to
Speaker 3: know each other and now Kelly and Britt having that
Speaker 3: fall out. Even though we know Britt won't be back,
Speaker 3: but the other ladies will still have opinions about whatever
Speaker 3: happened between Kelly and Britt that may grow into whatever
Speaker 3: next season. I think that based on what happened this season,
Speaker 3: based on what we'll get from their union, based on
Speaker 3: people paying attention to these streets of the comment section streets,
Speaker 3: I think season seventeen will give us that power punch
Speaker 3: that was missing from the group trip this time.
Speaker 5: So on this episode we will say this.
Speaker 6: What I did like about it was this was the
Speaker 6: first episode where I really liked Porsche. I feel like
Speaker 6: there was no mean girl from her. I felt like
Speaker 6: she was actually a friend to Shamiah. I loved when
Speaker 6: Shamia lost her luggage that Porscha gave her a nice
Speaker 6: dress to wear and not the little bottom of the
Speaker 6: barrel stuff. She gave her that beautiful yellow dress. I
Speaker 6: thought that was really sweet because we have seen that
Speaker 6: friendship struggling. Look, you don't want to see friends that
Speaker 6: are real friends really fall apart in real life, and
Speaker 6: that was the moment where it's like, that's what your
Speaker 6: best friend's supposed to do. And I thought that was nice,
Speaker 6: and I actually saw traces were not traces. I saw
Speaker 6: like glimpses of the old Porsche, Like why we liked
Speaker 6: her in the first place. She was silly, she was goofy,
Speaker 6: she was fun, and she actually was being She wasn't
Speaker 6: being a mean girl at all.
Speaker 5: In this episode.
Speaker 6: I love that there was some inside jokes with those
Speaker 6: two in the van, because I didn't really seen that.
Speaker 6: Like if I say something my best friend, yo, when
Speaker 6: you see me and Annie we have the minute we
Speaker 6: see each other, that's inside joke, inside joke, inside joke.
Speaker 6: We're always laughing because like we're like laughing at something
Speaker 6: that y'all don't know.
Speaker 5: We have not seen that.
Speaker 6: So it hasn't felt like the stakes were even that
Speaker 6: high for them, Like even their friendship when it went
Speaker 6: left you like, were they really friends in the first place,
Speaker 6: because I'm not seeing it. This episode made me really
Speaker 6: see them being friends. And then at the end, when
Speaker 6: you know Shamia had gone through a lot in this episode,
Speaker 6: was finding out her child was kind of neglected back
Speaker 6: home by the caretaker, and you know, being really upset
Speaker 6: and being far away from home having to work. My
Speaker 6: heart went out to her on that one, and you know,
Speaker 6: Portia did a gesture to make her feel better, letting
Speaker 6: her use that big, extravagant hat to do a photo shoot.
Speaker 5: That was cute.
Speaker 6: That's something that real friends actually do do for each other,
Speaker 6: and that resonated because it felt real.
Speaker 5: It felt real.
Speaker 6: Now outside of that, yes, because there's no real friendships
Speaker 6: on the show, there's only friendships alliances out of we
Speaker 6: both hate the same person, we both don't like that one,
Speaker 6: or whatever, you know, like Drew and Andrew like each other.
Speaker 5: But let's keep it a buck.
Speaker 6: They're friends because they were both kind of being attacked
Speaker 6: by the others, right they got free.
Speaker 5: Became friends in conflict.
Speaker 6: Phasia is so out of place in this cast, Like
Speaker 6: it's just so ridiculous. And I think they thought they'd
Speaker 6: get that magic back of old Phasira. But what they
Speaker 6: should have done if they wanted her to really have
Speaker 6: a chance of being successful in the season, she needed
Speaker 6: to be there earlier because she's at the tail end.
Speaker 5: She's coming in at the end of the night. You
Speaker 5: got to be caught up, brought.
Speaker 4: Up to speed.
Speaker 6: No one really knows you like that, and you're kind
Speaker 6: of just again, like all she's doing is making faces
Speaker 6: and actually a lot of her reads are not.
Speaker 5: They're nowhere near as good as they used to be.
Speaker 6: I thought she was saying too yes, like snore fest,
Speaker 6: Like when she's in her when you're in your confessionals,
Speaker 6: you have a chance to redo it, just so y'all know,
Speaker 6: not you guys, like if you say something, hold up, Carlo,
Speaker 6: I remember you with my interviews on.
Speaker 5: That side of FicT. Can I do again? That's you
Speaker 5: can do it again?
Speaker 6: If that was the best of the edits, she's lost
Speaker 6: a step, like it just wasn't. It was like I
Speaker 6: forgot well I should have wrote it down. But there's
Speaker 6: one thing she said. I was like, that was not
Speaker 6: that was corny, Like it was this corny like oh
Speaker 6: she said she was talking about Britain washing her down,
Speaker 6: and she's like, if the KKK was in my vagina,
Speaker 6: she would.
Speaker 5: Have found it. That's not funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: That was not it was it was I've never seen
Speaker 3: the appeal from season three onwards, and I've been vocal
Speaker 3: about that since then. I've never seen the appeal. I've
Speaker 3: never been wowed by anything that was said or done. Never,
Speaker 3: So when people say there was this fall from Witty Grace.
Speaker 4: I just don't see it personally.
Speaker 6: Well, I want the one funny in Pha. I'm sorry Cynthia,
Speaker 6: And that was the one funny scene when they were
Speaker 6: talking about Cynthia have an invert a clip that was cute.
Speaker 6: That was a little bit like a girl a girl
Speaker 6: for the moment was I think fa with Cynthia and Portia.
Speaker 5: That was that was cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is this, I agree with all of
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 4: The thing is this.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed this season.
Speaker 1: Every every listen, every show has a bad episode or
Speaker 1: two or three. So this is not this ain't seeing
Speaker 1: in breaking news right. We have up limited every episode
Speaker 1: up until this one. I'll speak for myself. I have
Speaker 1: enjoyed every episode. The trip to Me just fell flat.
Speaker 1: And I'm being very honest here. They're missing They're missing
Speaker 1: Kenya or or or if.
Speaker 2: Y'all listen, or Kenya type.
Speaker 1: This is the thing, and this is somebody who worked
Speaker 1: on the show, to somebody who knows how this shit works.
Speaker 1: If Kenya Moore so so rain drops, let's have a
Speaker 1: moment of silence, and I want you to, in the
Speaker 1: words of mean, use your brain, right, imagine Kenya Moore
Speaker 1: being at Grenada and all of the stuff that was
Speaker 1: going on that that that that wasn't pushed forward. Kenya
Speaker 1: would have done it. Kenya would have clocked, huh, ken
Speaker 1: you would have.
Speaker 2: Said so Britton, Kelly, last night I saw that you
Speaker 2: were really happening to me as bad.
Speaker 1: Like Kelly, I've always seen you ride for brit what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: There's something going on. I'm here's about a stylust?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: What like it was?
Speaker 1: It was nothing there And my advice would be this
Speaker 1: to the to the girls. I do agree with Claudia
Speaker 1: and Destin. These are new group of friends next season.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they refine their they're footing.
Speaker 2: What I will say is.
Speaker 1: You must have the focused, the intention, the drive to
Speaker 1: be president and live in the moment. And I felt
Speaker 1: like nobody was living in the moment because a lot
Speaker 1: of things fell flat. And one thing about being a producer,
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do. There's only so
Speaker 1: much you can do. It's up to the talent to say,
Speaker 1: we are the ones in front of the camera.
Speaker 2: We have to make sure that everything is great.
Speaker 1: And I felt like this trip was lackluster because there
Speaker 1: were so many gems that could have happened, but nobody
Speaker 1: stepped up. And if you're not going to bring Kenya back,
Speaker 1: that's your decision. This this trip needed Kenya or a Kenya, and.
Speaker 2: It was obvious to me in this episode.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Fedra, I will say this, I
Speaker 1: think I disagree with Dustin m hm. Fedra was always funny,
Speaker 1: whether her reads or whatever Fedra was. You can always
Speaker 1: rely on Pedra for a funny comedic bit. And my
Speaker 1: advice to Fedra is this, I would just like for
Speaker 1: her to not rely solely on trying to make jokes
Speaker 1: happen on the spot, and I won't. I want Fedra
Speaker 1: to live and be present like like the I remember
Speaker 1: who was just being who would live in the moment,
Speaker 1: be president and see what's going on and activate. I
Speaker 1: think Phedra obviously, like you said, Claudia came back later
Speaker 1: and she's trying to like figure things out, so I'll
Speaker 1: give her grades for that. But my advice to all
Speaker 1: the girls is they have to step it up and
Speaker 1: really be president.
Speaker 2: And I just felt like nobody was president on this trip.
Speaker 6: For her to be a housewife, though we know nothing
Speaker 6: about it this season, we know absolutely she's given us nothing.
Speaker 5: She's she's she's a friend of the show. That's essentially
Speaker 5: what her role is.
Speaker 6: She's getting paid as a housewife, but her performance is
Speaker 6: front of the show all day long. I agree as
Speaker 6: far as needing a SPCE multiplier. If I can compare
Speaker 6: this episode to sex, you know, like that's someone and
Speaker 6: you're like, you know, we saw the trailers like Ooh,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be juicy, it's gonna be so good, that
Speaker 6: Dick's gonna be so amazing, or that to you or
Speaker 6: that bussy or whatever you like, right, it's gonna be
Speaker 6: so amazing. And then you finally meet up with the person.
Speaker 6: Then you get the season perm then you get into
Speaker 6: the episodes, episodes, episodes, episodes, and you're waiting for that
Speaker 6: big climax. You wait for them to put it in
Speaker 6: or are you going to put in? And we just
Speaker 6: get the tip. All we got is the tip and
Speaker 6: they never followed through every There's so many things, like
Speaker 6: Carlos said, that were like could have been gems, like Okay,
Speaker 6: we're finally seeing Kelly and Brittain the demids of their friendship.
Speaker 5: Nobody really explored that.
Speaker 6: We just got the tip, just the beginning, we hear
Speaker 6: Angela Oakley saying about Charles like kind of and and
Speaker 6: I think someone said something that she of Tourette's. She
Speaker 6: never like she keeps telling us our business or was
Speaker 6: a Porsche, like someone should have exposed blew that up
Speaker 6: and like really brought that put it on front shee.
Speaker 6: That's what they do on the Housewives, Like there were
Speaker 6: so many things that they just let go. I don't
Speaker 6: know if that's production's fault, not following that or not
Speaker 6: pushing the girls. I know when we did the show,
Speaker 6: if someone dropped something, someone's getting a talking to in
Speaker 6: the ear and said hey, uh, and then I need
Speaker 6: you to bring that up in the next dinner, the
Speaker 6: next all cast and where was it?
Speaker 5: Where was it?
Speaker 6: So we constantly got the tip with no shaft and
Speaker 6: no finishing, and that's why we felt unsatisfied at the end.
Speaker 4: She's right, but I'm fine, child, We are.
Speaker 1: Just getting started. This is reality with the King, and
Speaker 1: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I agree with Claudia.
Speaker 3: First of all, I hate bad text too, so we
Speaker 3: gotta figure out. You know, I do think that we
Speaker 3: got a limited glimpse into phaedr Now something positive, right.
Speaker 3: I did enjoy her giving brit those tips in the
Speaker 3: back of that car when they were riding in Grenada,
Speaker 3: and she was like, roller thumb, you gotta you know
Speaker 3: at this at the level you at no less than
Speaker 3: a thousand dollars, you know, She like kind of split
Speaker 3: a little game to her. I've never seen that side
Speaker 3: of Phaeder, So that was cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Other than that, I just have never personally seen the value.
Speaker 3: So why y'all think Kelly and Brier really fell out?
Speaker 3: Because it's got to be more than just okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay they okay. Carlos King's opinion.
Speaker 1: About why Kelly and bread fell out. And I'll start
Speaker 1: with this disclaimer. I have not spoken to anyone about this.
Speaker 1: I could make a phone call, but I like to
Speaker 1: I like to wait till the season plays out or
Speaker 1: once you're on my couch.
Speaker 2: I'll get the questions whatever, and you answer it.
Speaker 1: But based on my spidy sentence, being a producer all
Speaker 1: those things, there is some truth to glam but that's
Speaker 1: not that's not the that's not all of the reason.
Speaker 1: So I will say this, it is true, and I
Speaker 1: know for a fact it is true.
Speaker 2: When it comes to glam.
Speaker 1: A lot of reality stars on these shows, ninety nine
Speaker 1: point nine percent of them, they do not want to
Speaker 1: share their glam with you.
Speaker 2: They just don't. They don't.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you why. It's not what y'all
Speaker 1: may think it is. It's not I don't want this
Speaker 1: other person to look better than me. Now, grant it,
Speaker 1: that's part of it. But no, Dustin, is this glam
Speaker 1: is a reality A female reality stars confidant. When you
Speaker 1: are in the chair getting glam, you speak to your
Speaker 1: hairstylist and your makeup artists about what happened the scene.
Speaker 1: You're comfortable, you talk shit about the girls, all those things.
Speaker 1: So I do believe that part of Kelly and Bridge
Speaker 1: issue is glam. What I'm saying is that one thousand
Speaker 1: percent happens every reality show with females. They all have
Speaker 1: their own glam squad. You're not sharing the same glam squad.
Speaker 1: It's rare when it happens. For that reason. Number two,
Speaker 1: I also think this, I think Britt then, I like
Speaker 1: the fact that Kelly was getting too close to comfort
Speaker 1: with Shamiah. That came out of nowhere to me when
Speaker 1: they came out and matching bikinis.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, and.
Speaker 1: Y'all know, I love Kelly and I and I rise
Speaker 1: for her and and I love Shamiah too. I thought
Speaker 1: I was and again I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that wasn't their friendship.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, as a viewer, I wasn't caught
Speaker 1: up to speed about their burgeoning friendship to that degree
Speaker 1: to where you're wearing matching bikinis. And I think what
Speaker 1: brit saw was Kelly getting to chumming to Shamia. And
Speaker 1: I think based on Kelly and Brick coming in as besties,
Speaker 1: to see one person forge a friendship with another girl
Speaker 1: leaving you in the dustpan in the in the pantry,
Speaker 1: I think Kelly for some kind of way. And I
Speaker 1: also think, again, because of my opinion, I think Kelly
Speaker 1: really wanted to get on the right team.
Speaker 3: I also don't think Brigg gave Kelly a reason to
Speaker 3: kind of pursue a friendship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We never really outside of them. At Kelly's dog's birthday party,
Speaker 3: riding in a sprinter on the way to Kenya's infamous
Speaker 3: Salon event. What have we seen, what connection process have
Speaker 3: we seen? What kind of bonding moments have we seen?
Speaker 3: We haven't seen any? And I think that that. I
Speaker 3: think they kind of dove head first into a duo
Speaker 3: situation that just was not substantiated by a real connection.
Speaker 3: And so as time goes on and you've decided this
Speaker 3: is my homie on the cast, and then they start
Speaker 3: doing shit that not only gets on your nerves, but
Speaker 3: it's a character related issue, right, and you'd be like, yo,
Speaker 3: I don't like the kind of person this person is.
Speaker 3: I think they but they both were realizing that about
Speaker 3: about each other. They didn't have an argument or no
Speaker 3: shit like that where they could have just had it out,
Speaker 3: And I think things came to a head in that
Speaker 3: very passive, aggressive, virtually pointless conversation we've seen them have
Speaker 3: on the bed.
Speaker 4: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: So I just think they decided they just didn't fucking
Speaker 3: like each other after a while, and they kind of
Speaker 3: got tired of pretending. That's the only thing that made
Speaker 3: sense to me, because even with that added element of
Speaker 3: the camaraderie that they get with their glam squad, right,
Speaker 3: it still wasn't a big enough issue for it to
Speaker 3: create a rift where they're like having each other. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's got to be like more
Speaker 3: to it than that. It has to be no, what
Speaker 3: does that?
Speaker 2: This is what?
Speaker 1: This is what it is ninety five percent of reality girls.
Speaker 1: And I said this before y'all tried to read me,
Speaker 1: and I don't give a shit because look at the
Speaker 1: fall opportunities.
Speaker 2: Friends y'all thought were friends. But I digress. I'm my
Speaker 2: saying names, pick.
Speaker 4: Up a book.
Speaker 1: These girls have a line sys and not friendships.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: And the reason I were always confused, like, but y'all
Speaker 1: were just friends, We're confused. They have an alliance. I
Speaker 1: need you for something. We're on this social experiment together.
Speaker 1: I need as many people on my team, and that's
Speaker 1: what happens. That's why Giselle and Robin are one of
Speaker 1: the few housewives on these shows where the show never
Speaker 1: came between their friendship, no matter how many times people tried.
Speaker 2: But listen, I would love to get Claudia's perspective. Claudia,
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 1: Seven, she came in not having an alliance with anybody.
Speaker 1: She came in like I'm trying to figure things out.
Speaker 1: People thought she's team Kenya, team Cynthia, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to figure my shit out to be
Speaker 1: team with anybody, but Claudia, you can speak to this
Speaker 1: more than I can.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they came for me because I was friends with Kenya.
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, I'm friends. I was cool with Needing
Speaker 6: before this. I was friends, are cool with Portion before this.
Speaker 6: I was courted with Cynthia before this. I didn't have
Speaker 6: a dog in a fight. But anyways, let me not
Speaker 6: be let me talk about these ladies. I don't think
Speaker 6: Kelleen Britt were really best friends. There's no in hell
Speaker 6: I believe that. I feel like they were just both
Speaker 6: new newbies and they decided to play the role of
Speaker 6: besties coming in because we're both rookies.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's now that we got we all agree with that.
Speaker 5: I think that.
Speaker 6: You know Britt from very early on, what two episodes in,
Speaker 6: she she was the cause of one of the star
Speaker 6: of the network of the show getting kicked off the show.
Speaker 6: You're gonna have an upheld battle after that, because even
Speaker 6: if he didn't like Kenya. You do know that Kenya
Speaker 6: is good for the show, Like, I'm sure those girls
Speaker 6: had to be like, Okay, you don't sabotage 'all season.
Speaker 5: Okay, and and.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, let's cut you off. I never thought about that.
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm sitting here thinking the same damn thing
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: I'd be mad if I was on a winning my
Speaker 6: first year on a show. Right, Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 6: on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I get to do
Speaker 6: scenes with Kenya with Porsche was sitting like, and then
Speaker 6: two episodes in, I'm responsible for one of the stars
Speaker 6: to getting kicked off. You already know it's gonna be
Speaker 6: a singing ship after that, and you're gonna get blamed
Speaker 6: for it.
Speaker 5: I think Kelly did.
Speaker 6: Like brit Right, you kind of got to distance yourself
Speaker 6: and not like you're like the bad.
Speaker 3: Jusual here, but when at you you lean into that shit, right,
Speaker 3: you understand that that's what happens when you pull the
Speaker 3: trigger on something like getting the motherfucker removed from the show. Right,
Speaker 3: you have to lean into the fullness of those shoes
Speaker 3: if you're gonna play the villain role for real, for real,
Speaker 3: in the capacity of the show. I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: anything that's going on with her and the show outside
Speaker 3: of what we saw on the screen. But if you're
Speaker 3: gonna be the villain and get Kenya fucking more kicked
Speaker 3: off of the show, you got to stand in that.
Speaker 4: And you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't go from villain villain to victim and express
Speaker 3: a desire for support from the ladies or whatever.
Speaker 4: Just lean into it.
Speaker 3: Fuck her because she did something dirty to me and
Speaker 3: any of y'all are in opposition to me, then when
Speaker 3: you can go at it too.
Speaker 4: That's how bridg shit have stood. If you're gonna really
Speaker 4: commit to being a.
Speaker 6: Villain, and if you are, I'm sorry, Carl, I trying
Speaker 6: to finish this thought. And if you were respond well, okay,
Speaker 6: some people can say it was Kenya's fall, some people
Speaker 6: can say it's Brits fault.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 6: Whatever team you're on, you were part of it, right,
Speaker 6: you stayed and Kenya's gone. So Also, if Britt Kelly
Speaker 6: is not that invested in Britt as her friend, because
Speaker 6: they really weren't best siaes in real life, they were
Speaker 6: just playing it right, it's a lot easier to disassociate
Speaker 6: from her once you see it ain't really cool to
Speaker 6: be down with Britt and she got having deep with her.
Speaker 6: Porscha got like everyone's having issues with this one girl.
Speaker 5: So why would you want to stay with the sinking ship.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go get cool with Shamiyah, I'm gonna get
Speaker 6: cool with Porsche. I'm gonna get cool with everybody with
Speaker 6: Drew even so why would you stick around? Like but
Speaker 6: if you are not, that's not your best friend. Because
Speaker 6: if my best friend was on the show, even if
Speaker 6: she was in the wrong, I could still have a
Speaker 6: conversation tell she's in the wrong, but I'm still rocking
Speaker 6: with her and I have her briend. The way Kelly
Speaker 6: was like shows you they weren't really friends, and she
Speaker 6: distanced herself from the perceived to be the cancer of
Speaker 6: this season.
Speaker 5: Britt is not popular with the people like that. A
Speaker 5: lot of people don't like her.
Speaker 6: So you can see at the pool party when she
Speaker 6: rolled up, you know, there was some people giving people
Speaker 6: gave her hugs, but they weren't like, hey, Kelly's here,
Speaker 6: like it wasn't. I mean, BRIT's here, So you can
Speaker 6: tell she's not in. She's not in with the girls.
Speaker 6: She's not and from her antics, she's trying so hard
Speaker 6: to connect with these goofy stunts. She's putting the titties
Speaker 6: on the account like it really was very cringe that
Speaker 6: that ridiculous bad acting speech she gave Shamiah. Listen, I
Speaker 6: said it once before, I'll say it again. I know
Speaker 6: bad acting, I do it all the time, and that
Speaker 6: was some bullshit.
Speaker 5: Look, my friend, I'll never leave side girl bye, So.
Speaker 2: I will say this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gagging because the thing is this I've never
Speaker 1: thought about out of that way, because look, I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to Britt, and I said this before,
Speaker 1: no one is no one thing. Brent is Brent made
Speaker 1: a phone call, got King of fire. No one's saying that, right,
Speaker 1: So we all know that is the case, So.
Speaker 2: Don't read too much into that.
Speaker 1: We all said what King did was wrong, and obviously
Speaker 1: it was a network decision what they did.
Speaker 2: So that's that.
Speaker 1: But I think what you guys have to understand, which
Speaker 1: is why I'm gagging a bit, is the fact that
Speaker 1: and I also said this too, I said, the sad
Speaker 1: part is Britt unfortunately, and this is no device of
Speaker 1: her own.
Speaker 2: The moment Kenya was removed from the show.
Speaker 1: And I said this before, there was going to be
Speaker 1: this stain on brit because Kenya is such iconic character
Speaker 1: or cas brother that she will be seen as you
Speaker 1: are the reason Kenya Moore is not on the show.
Speaker 2: That is how people are going to perceive you. And
Speaker 2: it's not fair, but that is how people are going
Speaker 2: to perceive you. I've said that before.
Speaker 1: What I never thought about until Claudia Clock did is
Speaker 1: I never thought, huh because some of these girls on
Speaker 1: the show felt that way the way I knew the
Speaker 1: audience was going to feel that way.
Speaker 2: Because I know the audience. I did think about, humph.
Speaker 1: Will the other cast member feel that way? Because I
Speaker 1: will say this, I'm gagging because when Kenya showed those pictures,
Speaker 1: and this is right before she showed the very explicit
Speaker 1: one when Kenya.
Speaker 5: Wait, the pictures that were never of bread right.
Speaker 2: Right, thank you for thank you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 5: You, pictures that were never heard.
Speaker 1: Yes, Kelly left Kenya's event the moment Kenya called her
Speaker 1: an insurance fraud hope and she left and.
Speaker 2: Said, you're my friend.
Speaker 1: We're not going to do this, X Y and Z
Speaker 1: and I said from a jump everybody deserves it. For
Speaker 1: like Kelly, because I was like, shit, she had her back.
Speaker 1: What's interesting to me, though, is I haven't seen that,
Speaker 1: and there was an opportunity for that sort of I
Speaker 1: have your back to happen in Grenada.
Speaker 2: And it didn't.
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if it's because they all are
Speaker 1: like not they all if Kelly.
Speaker 2: Is like should I this is myself from this?
Speaker 1: And look, maybe Kelly was a privy to things that
Speaker 1: we weren't because look where things are now.
Speaker 3: Well, Also, what could Kelly have said though, because ultimately
Speaker 3: she would have been defending brig giving a smaller donation
Speaker 3: than they all thought was decent, right, So what can
Speaker 3: she defend? I mean, I guess she could have said, like, well,
Speaker 3: fuck it, she gave something, so stop asking her about it.
Speaker 3: But whatever she would have done in that moment would
Speaker 3: have been a blatant attempt to just be standing in
Speaker 3: the position of having her friends back as opposed to
Speaker 3: a legitimate, you know, opinion about what was being discussed,
Speaker 3: Because if she spoke up in that moment, she would
Speaker 3: be defending giving two hundred and fifty dollars sanitary napkins
Speaker 3: and toilet tissue. That's what she would have been defending
Speaker 3: in that moment, so I just I don't really Again,
Speaker 3: we haven't seen those connecting moments where there was an
Speaker 3: opportunity for someone to show up that way. I think
Speaker 3: the Kenya situation was so extreme you had to kind
Speaker 3: of pick aside a little bit in that moment.
Speaker 4: But at that table, what the fuck was she supposed
Speaker 4: to say?
Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to have those kind of conversations
Speaker 6: with your friend when you know your friend's wrong, and
Speaker 6: usually it's best done one on one, not in front
Speaker 6: of a group of people, because like it's never going
Speaker 6: to go it's gonna go left right. If you really
Speaker 6: care about your friend, you're going to do it one
Speaker 6: on one, not in front of everybody. But for the
Speaker 6: sake of television, I probably would have crafted like a
Speaker 6: hey y'all, hey y'all, hey y'all, this.
Speaker 5: Is my friend. Can let y'all all gang up on her.
Speaker 6: We had a conversation and I said, given anything, and
Speaker 6: this is what she thought. Now it's a big deal.
Speaker 6: You know, let her let her make up for it
Speaker 6: if she wants to. But like, I wouldn't just be quiet,
Speaker 6: and that's my real friend, and I wouldn't put you
Speaker 6: on blast, I wouldn't jump on the band wagon with
Speaker 6: everybody else if that's her real friend. So you can
Speaker 6: tell from these situations they really were a real.
Speaker 2: Friend, Yeah, because when everybody was.
Speaker 1: And this is why keep bringing them up because to me,
Speaker 1: it's the only solid friendship on the shows when you
Speaker 1: look at your Zell and Robin. When everybody read Robin
Speaker 1: for what Wan did with the nel Salon and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, they read.
Speaker 2: Robin for filth.
Speaker 1: And Giselle spoke to her in from of the girls
Speaker 1: and said, look, you're my girl. They are giving it
Speaker 1: to you, but I'm concerned about you. And if you
Speaker 1: can see their point.
Speaker 2: Like there's my thing is that way there's the.
Speaker 1: Way to not defend what you've done, But there's the
Speaker 1: way if I was Kelly.
Speaker 2: And Britt was my homegirl.
Speaker 1: But I agree with Claudia their friends because they had
Speaker 1: a line based on the newbies of the show. So
Speaker 1: that's that I would have said, if that was my
Speaker 1: real friend, my best friend, guys. Kelly already addressed, I
Speaker 1: mean if I was killed, I would say, guys, Britt
Speaker 1: addressed it it is what it is. I think you
Speaker 1: got are going too hard on her. You know she
Speaker 1: didn't know, brit Would you have done differently?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 1: So guys, why are we harping on this because what
Speaker 1: we need to harp on is X, Y, and Z.
Speaker 1: That's how you defend your friend without without defending their actions.
Speaker 4: Or you do what I would have done, which is
Speaker 4: just be blatant.
Speaker 3: It's no secret we've talked to about people on this
Speaker 3: show on other platforms where I'm just clear about that
Speaker 3: this is my friend.
Speaker 4: Fuck it.
Speaker 3: So I would have just sat at the table and
Speaker 3: be like, First of all, Carlos gave what the fuck
Speaker 3: he gave, Whether it was two hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 3: or twenty five cents, that's what he gave. Who the
Speaker 3: fuck are you to be checking him about whatever he gave.
Speaker 3: He gave what he wanted to get. Fuck you, you
Speaker 3: see what you got going? You know, you just got
Speaker 3: to stand in the fullness of what you're doing.
Speaker 4: You can't try to fail.
Speaker 3: It in anything else because people to see straight through it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You just understand exactly what
Speaker 3: it is. I'm defending them because y'all are talking to them,
Speaker 3: and that's my friend, straight up.
Speaker 6: I agree, and honestly, Kelly basically knows how to do
Speaker 6: reality better than Bret. Brett is too reactionary to emotional.
Speaker 6: She doesn't see the big picture, I think, and I
Speaker 6: think that's what hurts her in this. And you can
Speaker 6: also tell she's just not a girl's girl, Kelly. I
Speaker 6: think Kelly kind of shifts some times, kind of go
Speaker 6: over here, go over there a little bit, not in
Speaker 6: a two faced kind of way. But I see her
Speaker 6: making adjustments right because she knows. She kind of knows
Speaker 6: she has good instinct for reality TV. If you ask me,
Speaker 6: I think because she's doing what she needs to do,
Speaker 6: I would agree, and to be she's yeah, she's in
Speaker 6: with the she's in with the click, She's part of
Speaker 6: the in crowd, and Britt is definitely on the outside
Speaker 6: of that. So she's secured or smart for next season,
Speaker 6: whereas Britt is in a lawsuit with the network. You know, Kelly,
Speaker 6: they didn't like make so many enemies. She said some
Speaker 6: nice stuff when she needed to. She kind of pivoted
Speaker 6: here and there, and we'll see her again next season.
Speaker 2: I am gagging again.
Speaker 1: So now wait a second, Kelly may be the smartest
Speaker 1: Housewife of this season.
Speaker 5: Where Kelly Kelly saw the.
Speaker 2: Writing on the wall.
Speaker 5: She has no enemies on the.
Speaker 1: Kelly has no enemies on the show. She has she
Speaker 1: has four exprienses with everybody.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Britt is suing the network and I look,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people like little bit I'm about
Speaker 1: to you know, where the fact Kelly, you out Kelly, Baby, Kelly,
Speaker 1: get the MVP. Kelly, I'll smarted everybody on this cast
Speaker 1: because Kelly, Oh my god, you're right.
Speaker 2: Kelly played the game of smartest.
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day she came in
Speaker 1: with somebody and she's still there.
Speaker 5: And everyone likes her.
Speaker 6: So no one's gonna there's gonna be no you know,
Speaker 6: sometimes the girls make phone calls Carlos, Right, no one,
Speaker 6: I'm mad, Okay, well.
Speaker 5: No one. There's no reason for anyone to call and say.
Speaker 6: You know, Kelly was really a problem in the show.
Speaker 6: She was vulnerable, she was friendly, she was fun. It
Speaker 6: was a good sign that she had a cast trip,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like all the things.
Speaker 3: I get it, Listen, Kelly played the smart played the
Speaker 3: game smartly. She's been doing that since her first time
Speaker 3: on camera this season. You see, she stood right in
Speaker 3: it at Who's part to me his birthday party? When
Speaker 3: she was like, oh, the question she was, where does
Speaker 3: you take that lady's husband?
Speaker 4: She just asked it directly. It was what it was.
Speaker 3: And she established right then that she was not afraid
Speaker 3: to kind of go to the line when it came
Speaker 3: to the conversation that she was willing to have with
Speaker 3: these ladies. So yeah, Kelly played the game smartly. She
Speaker 3: hasn't lost control in our one time this.
Speaker 1: Season, Kelly has not. Oh my gosh, Kelly will go
Speaker 1: down in history as one of the smartest Nearer Housewives
Speaker 1: because she played the game well.
Speaker 2: Because this is the thing. As much as I ride
Speaker 2: for Kenya, I love Kenya.
Speaker 1: No one can ever make me go against Kenya Kenya
Speaker 1: first season she played them well. But Kenya also had
Speaker 1: people like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know about you, Kenya, right like Kenya.
Speaker 1: Had to earn her her way back into season six
Speaker 1: Icmic her first season, but Kenya had to forge relationships
Speaker 1: against seasons enemies.
Speaker 5: When she made she made enemies.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a new woman coming to established you.
Speaker 6: Kelly, mother Kelly. She's basically problematic on the cast. If
Speaker 6: you think about it now.
Speaker 5: Some people may say she ain't standing on like she's not.
Speaker 6: She should have wrote hot of her friend. She's looking
Speaker 6: like I don't really know her. I don't really know
Speaker 6: her like that.
Speaker 5: We cool. But I'm not going to lose this lady.
Speaker 2: No, Brandon, no, keep this up. Moderator Brandon L. Scott said,
Speaker 2: I supremely disagree. Kelly is a pick me.
Speaker 1: So guess what I could see why you would have
Speaker 1: said that five minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Kelly is a pick me in.
Speaker 1: The sense of I am going to pick and choose
Speaker 1: my battles and I'm going to make sure that I
Speaker 1: play this game right because I want to make sure
Speaker 1: that all these girls have a connection with me. Because Kelly,
Speaker 1: I never thought about this. Kelly has not had one.
Speaker 3: Argument with people, never lost control, no, and been right
Speaker 3: in the middle of everything that was going on and.
Speaker 6: Everything and when they's the moment where there it's like discourse,
Speaker 6: she always finds a moment to say something girl power ish, sisterly,
Speaker 6: so you can't really be mad at her, Like she
Speaker 6: even says, you.
Speaker 5: Know what this is about growth, Let's take this moment.
Speaker 6: This is a good reset, and she has all these
Speaker 6: moments on camera where how can you be mad at
Speaker 6: that she does?
Speaker 5: She has those moments.
Speaker 6: Where she tried to de escalate or lower the temperature.
Speaker 5: She's never escalated a situation. She's actually did a good job.
Speaker 6: Now you may call it a pigmy, but this is
Speaker 6: shows show business.
Speaker 4: Is it's important to be picked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because some of y'all are picked me on social
Speaker 1: media stepic on the big trying to re quote a
Speaker 1: tweet to get engagement.
Speaker 2: Listen, let's have real conversation. I'm a pig me. I like,
Speaker 2: we're all pick me and some form of fashion. There's
Speaker 2: moments I'm gonna pick me.
Speaker 1: There's moments I'm like, I don't wanna talk about this
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 2: Like this person. That happens whatever, whatever I don't do,
Speaker 2: it doesn't The only one who I.
Speaker 1: Said, Cydia Bailey is my friend and I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck what I say about her. I'm gonna rap
Speaker 1: for her. Gus, he guess what we're saying. That's real, right.
Speaker 3: Thing for all of y'all. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: for both of y'all. Like, that's just I believe in that.
Speaker 3: But I understand, you know, there's a certain element to
Speaker 3: playing a game, playing a game that exists within this space, right,
Speaker 3: that you.
Speaker 4: Have to be down for in order to be on
Speaker 4: the damn show. Right. I don't think I don't think
Speaker 4: she's a pig.
Speaker 1: No, I don't listen. I don't think so either. I
Speaker 1: think it's funny to says up what defies a pigmy.
Speaker 1: I think the reason why Kelly is the smartest housewife
Speaker 1: of Atlanta this season is because she played the game
Speaker 1: correctly and for a new bee to comment to an
Speaker 1: established show and force friendships with every body and leap
Speaker 1: out unscathed.
Speaker 2: You did that. This congratulations happy Now to.
Speaker 5: Me, Hella. A pick me to me?
Speaker 6: Pick me to me is if I'm in a friend
Speaker 6: group with my real friends and I see one friend
Speaker 6: switching up around other people and changing what I know
Speaker 6: to be her.
Speaker 5: Character, and I'm like, you don't even really think like that.
Speaker 6: Oh you like dogs? Oh I like dogs too, Oh
Speaker 6: you like Cleveland? So do I like just everything that
Speaker 6: someone says?
Speaker 5: You jump on it.
Speaker 6: Now, if the if Kelly and Britt weren't really friends
Speaker 6: before this, and outside of that, Kelly has no real
Speaker 6: relationships with these other girls, that's not a pick me.
Speaker 6: She has nothing invested with these girls. That is someone
Speaker 6: that's playing a game on a TV show. Now, next season,
Speaker 6: you can make that assessment like, Okay, she being fake
Speaker 6: because then we kind of have no a little bit
Speaker 6: more impowerful. Yeah, but we don't know she all we
Speaker 6: know this is a woman that's going through divorce, but
Speaker 6: she got four kids, three or four, and this is
Speaker 6: someone that is paying huge legal fees. She's like, I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna lose my gig over these holes that I
Speaker 6: might not hose, but these girls I may never even deal.
Speaker 5: With in real life.
Speaker 6: So yes, I will say what I have to say
Speaker 6: to get me to next season. Because we all know
Speaker 6: Atlanta Housewives, we'll start you off with a very disrespectful
Speaker 6: salary and then the next season they will double it
Speaker 6: and double it and double it. I didn't get that
Speaker 6: disrespectful salary, but I had Kenyan's lawyer. But anyways, high
Speaker 6: first year of salaries ever, I'm just going to put
Speaker 6: that on leave that right there for you. But they
Speaker 6: do be trying it the first season where you like,
Speaker 6: like that can't really be the budget, like that would
Speaker 6: be my plan budget. They really do, like I don't
Speaker 6: care what these girls are trying to tell y'all.
Speaker 5: The first season is.
Speaker 6: Listen, I'll do the next theme of Carlos and shoot
Speaker 6: a show in three weeks and take that out. It's
Speaker 6: basically the same salary as four months of filming the
Speaker 6: lot of Housewive. So with that being said, the reason
Speaker 6: why we push so hard for negotiations to get so
Speaker 6: next season I'll get a really nice salary because it's
Speaker 6: double and then the next season, like they do, run
Speaker 6: it up quickly, so you've got to get the second season.
Speaker 6: It's you know, that's where you get your money. And
Speaker 6: unfortunately I didn't go out that way from me, but
Speaker 6: I'm seeing how Kelly would be, like, I'm not going
Speaker 6: to make that mistake.
Speaker 5: I'm coming back next season.
Speaker 2: And she did a good job with it. So listen,
Speaker 2: Angela is.
Speaker 1: The MVP of the season. Let's be clear, She's the
Speaker 1: most vaguball player. I said that. Kelly to me, is
Speaker 1: the smartest because there is a strategic way of orchestrating
Speaker 1: the dynamic between these friend groups and coming out unscathed.
Speaker 2: It just hit me.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a newbie not get into a tune
Speaker 1: lashing because it's sort of like you're aby to passage
Speaker 1: and still be reletives, still be relevant.
Speaker 2: And and listen. We always will give answer her props.
Speaker 2: So so we done that way. But I want to
Speaker 2: dedicate to my episode to Kelly.
Speaker 1: Kelly Pharrell, Congratulations, happy birthday.
Speaker 2: You did that.
Speaker 1: I am now understanding the role you played in front
Speaker 1: and behind the camera assists.
Speaker 2: I salute you absolutely.
Speaker 6: Some people saying that they're really coming for Kelly tonight,
Speaker 6: they don't like it, just saying that.
Speaker 3: She got like I wouldn't know. I'm just in decided
Speaker 3: of the comments this week, so you.
Speaker 4: Got to feel me in.
Speaker 5: No one calls you, they stand you said.
Speaker 6: Someone did say your voice sounds like honey over a
Speaker 6: light thunder, like they've given you love. So tonight would
Speaker 6: be a good night for Justin or Justin to get
Speaker 6: in the chat because you're living.
Speaker 2: You know they're living for you. But no, But the
Speaker 2: thing is this, I said, I listen in respect to.
Speaker 1: The people in the chat based on this episode, I
Speaker 1: understand why y'all watched this episode and thought Kelly's a pickny.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But if you allow yourselves to listen to what we
Speaker 1: just said, your mind could be altered a bit, because
Speaker 1: the beauty of Month and I Live is we're able
Speaker 1: to offer point of views from our very experience in
Speaker 1: this genre, so that we're able to see things.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Look, Claudia says something tonight that changed my mind already
Speaker 1: because she brought a perspective that gag Dustin and I
Speaker 1: and I want you guys to OFAs watch yourself knowing listen.
Speaker 1: Everybody else can recap the shows and tell you.
Speaker 2: What y'all saw. That's fine, have them do it.
Speaker 1: The beauty of this is we take it a step
Speaker 1: further and we give y'all deeper conversations based on the nuances.
Speaker 1: And my hope with every Mother and I Live is
Speaker 1: that you guys walk away saying, huh, I didn't see
Speaker 1: things that way. So and listen, I'm a change man
Speaker 1: tonight based on what I watched and Kelly did the
Speaker 1: day a thing child that's.
Speaker 6: I think they want us to drive her and they're
Speaker 6: saying she's fake, don't I don't know. I mean, maybe
Speaker 6: I don't feel that. It was a few episodes during
Speaker 6: the season. I'm marking the front where I saw her,
Speaker 6: like I thought she was over here and then she
Speaker 6: went over here and like, hey, who am I to say,
Speaker 6: like at the end of the day, again, if these
Speaker 6: were her real friends, I would look at you one way.
Speaker 5: When they're not and their coworkers.
Speaker 6: You don't have to You don't got to stay over
Speaker 6: there with a sinking ship.
Speaker 5: You don't.
Speaker 6: Now that's your girl and you abandoned her to be
Speaker 6: cool with Shamia and portion the in girls. Then I
Speaker 6: would call you to pick me, not on a show
Speaker 6: you just got throw into the mix with this cast.
Speaker 5: You don't know these taps. You may never see them again.
Speaker 6: You only see them, you know, at work, and maybe
Speaker 6: you text each other here and there.
Speaker 5: I understand. It's entertainment, y'all.
Speaker 6: And that's why we were saying and well a lot
Speaker 6: of people were saying that with these shows, they've got
Speaker 6: to have people that have more higher stakes because they
Speaker 6: have real friendships.
Speaker 5: After this first season, depending.
Speaker 6: On who returns next year, I think we can make
Speaker 6: better assessments next year because now they should really be
Speaker 6: friends by then, you know what I mean, Like, hopefully
Speaker 6: they spend some time together outside of filming. So it's
Speaker 6: feel like all being a little hard on Kelly right
Speaker 6: now about you know, what we're calling strategic and intelligent
Speaker 6: and emotional intelligence. She does have emotional intelligence, she has
Speaker 6: reality emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and before so listen, that's all I have for
Speaker 1: this episode unless deathIn Clomp is in else you guys
Speaker 1: want to dress?
Speaker 2: I did? We covered everything?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, Grenada was great, the bow legged Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was like, that's that's what I
Speaker 1: did enjoy about it.
Speaker 2: So look, there there were great moments.
Speaker 1: But before I let them go, I do want to
Speaker 1: talk about rap and I want to get Dustin and
Speaker 1: Claude's opinion on rap. So, Ralph has released several text
Speaker 1: messages between he and Drew Sodora, his strange wife. He's
Speaker 1: also released pictures will appear to be intimate photos. Nothing kissing,
Speaker 1: nothing of that nature, nothing explicit, but just you know,
Speaker 1: Tie Young and Drew hugging and whatever. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think about that, because in my interview with Drew Sidora,
Speaker 1: I did say it to her. Look, I like Ralph,
Speaker 1: this is nothing against Ralph. I do feel like Ralph
Speaker 1: wants to embarrass you. And I felt that way a
Speaker 1: month ago when I did her interview. A month later, right, Dustin,
Speaker 1: I said, I feel like he just wants to embarrass you.
Speaker 1: I'm not understanding Ralph's crash out because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, that is the mother of your kids
Speaker 1: and you are raising a son, and I don't want
Speaker 1: your son to look at this situation thinking this is okay.
Speaker 1: And what I do want for Ralph is this you
Speaker 1: were able to have camera time, which a lot of
Speaker 1: these husbands don't.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the end goal for this because I
Speaker 1: think Ralph is a better human being than what he's doing,
Speaker 1: and it makes me sad that he feels the need
Speaker 1: to do this.
Speaker 4: Claudia, Ladies, First.
Speaker 5: Ralph, why are you doing this?
Speaker 6: Like, listen, I don't know the ins and outs of
Speaker 6: euros relationship, you know, and a lot of times with
Speaker 6: the public sees can be very different than what is
Speaker 6: the reality, right, Like, we don't know what Drew has.
Speaker 5: Done to you and you've done to her.
Speaker 6: We're really mostly getting Drew side because she's got the
Speaker 6: bigger platform. But at the end of the day, y'all
Speaker 6: sharing a house, y'all have kids, and you may be
Speaker 6: very angry with her with how the relationship ended, or
Speaker 6: you feel like you've been demonized or panelized or villainized.
Speaker 6: But you're not doing yourself a favor at all by
Speaker 6: doing this, Like what, okay, you show pictures that look
Speaker 6: like Tye and Drew, right, and Drew told us on
Speaker 6: the show she was flirting with Tye.
Speaker 5: So is that breaking news? No, it's not.
Speaker 6: The text messages I read them boring, and Ralph, these
Speaker 6: things about you that I know.
Speaker 5: That I could say and I'm not.
Speaker 6: And I'm sure when you're married to someone, you're gonna
Speaker 6: have a lot of information about someone. And the fact
Speaker 6: that Drew isn't saying these things about you that she
Speaker 6: probably has on you and you are, it's making people
Speaker 6: that probably would have sided with you side with Drew
Speaker 6: because what you're doing is it's very it's very bitch made.
Speaker 6: It really is, Ralph. And like, there was a time
Speaker 6: when y'all were crazy by y others. There was a
Speaker 6: time when y'all loved each other. There was a time
Speaker 6: when y'all created babies together, right, and you guys love
Speaker 6: each other. I know the person you divorce is not
Speaker 6: who you married, trust me, I know that, but just
Speaker 6: keep it somewhat cool. You have kids, You have kids,
Speaker 6: and all these things are giving.
Speaker 5: It makes you ask you before.
Speaker 6: It makes me look like you are mad or hurt
Speaker 6: that she's not with you anymore. And that's probably not
Speaker 6: the keys, but that's what it looks like. It's giving
Speaker 6: bitter let me embarrass you when we hurt you, so
Speaker 6: you have no choice but to run back to me.
Speaker 5: I don't know what they's like.
Speaker 6: It's stupid, you know, like, don't let reality TV take
Speaker 6: you out of character of the person you probably were,
Speaker 6: and that's why she fell in love with you. And
Speaker 6: if she's a liar, listen, it'll come out eventually, but
Speaker 6: it shouldn't be at the hands of the father of
Speaker 6: her children. Mouth like, you got to stop with that.
Speaker 6: It's very corny. And you were with the other reality
Speaker 6: TV man the other day giving toast on social media
Speaker 6: being shady, like, stop to stop.
Speaker 5: You know the truth.
Speaker 6: You're so worried about what the public things about your
Speaker 6: ex wife and humiliating her. That is still the kid
Speaker 6: that you say you love, the kids that you say
Speaker 6: you love, that's their mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that what we're seeing right. First of all,
Speaker 3: this train is way far out to station, way too
Speaker 3: far out to station to have them find some dignity
Speaker 3: or give each other some grace, right, Him and Drew
Speaker 3: hate each other at this point, obviously when it counts.
Speaker 3: We saw them having a moment of camaraderie the other
Speaker 3: day in the kitchen or whatever. But as far as
Speaker 3: we know, based on what Ralph just presented to everybody
Speaker 3: on Twitter, they hate each other. And I think that
Speaker 3: that is a result of Ralph not being able to
Speaker 3: get any camera time on the show this season and
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to give his say. They're in a
Speaker 3: bitter divorce, and he has been accustomed over the past
Speaker 3: three seasons to at least having an opportunity, whether wrong
Speaker 3: or not, but to give his say against whatever Drew
Speaker 3: is presenting to the show. He didn't get that this season.
Speaker 3: We had limited a limited view into what he had
Speaker 3: to say, so now.
Speaker 4: He's running with it.
Speaker 3: That's why he did things like attach a picture, a
Speaker 3: professional picture of him shirtless in a blaze with no
Speaker 3: shirt on under a blazer.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He attached that picture to his tweet damning Drew's actions
Speaker 3: because there's an attention grab that's taking place here right
Speaker 3: that It's also that is in alignment with you know
Speaker 3: him just want to give his say, so he wants
Speaker 3: the attention, he wants to have people hear his take
Speaker 3: on things, and he's using Twitter as the medium or
Speaker 3: platform to do that. I don't think that's smart choice,
Speaker 3: but I do think that's why that's happening.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 3: There is nothing he can present to us that we
Speaker 3: didn't already know. We know Drew as a liar. We've
Speaker 3: been seeing her lie the past three seasons, and honestly,
Speaker 3: it's a part of her Housewives charm at this point.
Speaker 3: That's kind of why we like her, because it's like, damn,
Speaker 3: I can't believe you'll be lying like that, and then
Speaker 3: we laugh and be like.
Speaker 6: Fuck, well, and did talk about how Michael Jordan and
Speaker 6: both of our cousins, So I would need you to
Speaker 6: stop like claiming this girls like we're both Michael Jordan's cousin,
Speaker 6: And I don't know why y'all would call like she's
Speaker 6: not lying, we're both.
Speaker 1: Well no, listen, nothing is related to Diana Ross and
Speaker 1: Carlos King is related to Martin Luther. We all lineage.
Speaker 3: It's so funny to me, but I just think that
Speaker 3: that's what it is. Ralph was looking forward to the
Speaker 3: attention and the wave that comes along with the season
Speaker 3: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. He missed that, so
Speaker 3: he's trying to get it by any means necessary. On Twitter,
Speaker 3: we been knew her and Ty was messing around. We
Speaker 3: been knew that. You know, before she came to Housewives,
Speaker 3: her money was different than it was after She's done
Speaker 3: multiple seasons on the Housewives. These are not groundbreaking revelations
Speaker 3: that shift our view or our opinion in any way.
Speaker 4: It's an attention grab, That's what it is.
Speaker 1: We know that so well, Dustin one of the rain drops, all, Claudia,
Speaker 1: what's second double to get this out because it's funny. Well,
Speaker 1: Dustin one of the rain drops said, so you like
Speaker 1: Drew b liar but not me a b liar?
Speaker 5: Yes, stand on business friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and did what and did and we could just
Speaker 4: move right on along, Claudia, Claudia.
Speaker 6: Ahead, I'm gonna have my my Justin Dustin moment right now,
Speaker 6: to one of the rain drops. Trina m says, Claudia,
Speaker 6: the public has dirt on your asked too, diddy parties,
Speaker 6: married men freak offs sow about Ralph. First of all,
Speaker 6: Trina m suck my dick. I've never done with a
Speaker 6: married man in my life. I've never messed around with Diddy.
Speaker 6: I took one picture with him backstage of the BT Wors.
Speaker 6: I had my hand on his face. It was two
Speaker 6: thousand and seven and he was hollering at me. And
Speaker 6: never hungered with him again. The very next day he
Speaker 6: blewed my phone fifty seven times, complaining about the picture
Speaker 6: that I put on my MySpace, ending up on media takeout.
Speaker 5: I never fuck with them.
Speaker 6: Actually, I'm trying to get the message out of a
Speaker 6: text old phone where I told him go fuck himself.
Speaker 6: I never touched Didty ever in my life. Never fooled
Speaker 6: around with Diddy or jay Z or Kanye. Y'all keep
Speaker 6: putting names on my puss that ain't there. I wish
Speaker 6: I had as much action as y'all say I had.
Speaker 5: I wish I was this whore that y'all made.
Speaker 6: I have not had sex in twenty twenty five, y'all,
Speaker 6: and really only once in last year with one person,
Speaker 6: and it was in two years. Like I've done it
Speaker 6: like four times, honestly, Like I get no app but
Speaker 6: I love that you think that I'm just out there
Speaker 6: just getting dipped down by the industry and everyone's fucking me.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you one thing right now, hepens and
Speaker 5: he bets. You cannot have.
Speaker 6: This kind of longevity in the game if you only
Speaker 6: got there by fucking people. You get to be the
Speaker 6: hot girl for one summer. You're like a blue flame
Speaker 6: that goes out fast like a comet.
Speaker 5: You bright light and they fade off.
Speaker 6: Don't nobody stay in the business for thirty motherfucking years
Speaker 6: by fucking to get there. And I'm offended because I
Speaker 6: put in hard work. I work for free. I've done
Speaker 6: radio shows, I've done TV shows. I've done so for exposure.
Speaker 6: I've signed shitty contracts just so I can show that
Speaker 6: I have good work ethic. I've turned down owners of
Speaker 6: basketball teams, sheeps that reach out to me, owners of
Speaker 6: football teams, the current president. I have turned down more
Speaker 6: men and wealth than you will ever see in your
Speaker 6: life on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Okay, so when you come for.
Speaker 6: My character, make sure you know what the fuck you're
Speaker 6: talking about, because trying to diminish my acomplishments and my
Speaker 6: status and my success because you have nothing else to say.
Speaker 6: There's plenty of things you can criticize about me. I
Speaker 6: have a lisp, my hair show on the front. I
Speaker 6: have daddy issues. I don't have kids.
Speaker 5: You can come for that. The foot surgery went well,
Speaker 5: but it ain't perfect.
Speaker 6: You have other things I've given you to talk about.
Speaker 6: But what you will not ever come for is my
Speaker 6: motherfucking character. And the reason why I could sit on
Speaker 6: this show and every other talk to that I've booked
Speaker 6: over the past thirty years, making seven figures is because
Speaker 6: I stand on business and I have no skeletons in
Speaker 6: my closet that will ever make me worry about Ooh,
Speaker 6: I hope that.
Speaker 5: One thing doesn't come out.
Speaker 6: I proudly and loudly say how I feel because I
Speaker 6: am not embarrassed about the woman I am because I
Speaker 6: did it the right way. Now, if you want to
Speaker 6: keep on going with these false narratives, that's on you.
Speaker 6: But I've said what the fuck I said, and I
Speaker 6: need you to stop with this bullshit. I've never messed
Speaker 6: with these people, and I've never messed with anyone for
Speaker 6: your job, and never will because I don't have to
Speaker 6: because I have something you don't have. As you said
Speaker 6: on the sidelines, courage, bravery, and talent, No go fuck yourself.
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, all right.
Speaker 1: So thank you Dustin and Claudia and ray Dross. There's
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing else to be said about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: after that, Uh, Claudia, I'm proud of you standing up
Speaker 1: for yourself and and finally addressed I see.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: What's so funny, Claudia, Dustin. Somebody said, Carlos, what is
Speaker 2: it your turn to crash out? Let me alone? Oh god, Claudia.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's literally nothing else to be said after that,
Speaker 1: but thank you, Claudia, Thank you Dustin.
Speaker 2: Claudia.
Speaker 1: I'm always proud of you for standing up for yourself
Speaker 1: and and addressing the haters and guess for Claudia after tonight,
Speaker 1: I don't think that will ever be addressed to you
Speaker 1: anymore because you have made it very clear and expect
Speaker 1: that to go viral cross all platforms. Okay, Dustin Ross
Speaker 1: has to show this weekend. Dustin, let the world know
Speaker 1: they can buy tickets and see you.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you have a show tomorrow?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'll check it out.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow I'll be in Philly at Citywinery.
Speaker 3: You can get tickets at Dustin rosslive dot com, or
Speaker 3: you can go to the Philadelphia City Winery website that
Speaker 3: is actually linked on Dustin rosslive dot com, So just
Speaker 3: go there Dustin rosslive dot com. You can get tickets
Speaker 3: to my show in Philadelphia tomorrow. We're gonna have a
Speaker 3: good fucking time, and Saturday we turning the fuck up
Speaker 3: in DC, so make sure y'all come out.
Speaker 4: More shows to come.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much to everybody who pulled up, all
Speaker 3: the VIP guests at the meet and greet who love
Speaker 3: our show on Monday nights. Have so much love for you, Carlos,
Speaker 3: so much love for you, Claudia. I just appreciate it all.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to make y'all laugh Tuesday and Saturday
Speaker 3: this week.
Speaker 4: So that's it.
Speaker 3: Starslive dot com. Thank you for the platform, Carlos, Thank.
Speaker 2: You for always joining us. Claudie, what is you and
Speaker 2: your clit doing this weekend? I'll it will be and.
Speaker 6: Uh we'll doing the Form podcast on Wednesday with Erica
Speaker 6: Cop So please me and my clit and Erica hang out.
Speaker 1: Shut off to Erica cop At, Claudia, I want to
Speaker 1: come on your show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we want to have you on we well, we
Speaker 5: want both of you on.
Speaker 6: I thought we could do something after we all hung
Speaker 6: out in DC, but Carlos got big things to do
Speaker 6: this weekend, so you won't be able to be there.
Speaker 5: But I would love for.
Speaker 6: Both of you to come on like individual though after
Speaker 6: we all hang out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and then I'm leaving.
Speaker 6: For DC on Friday, and I'm hosting the Women in
Speaker 6: Songwriting Hall of Fame Award show. It's Saturday, It's right
Speaker 6: before Dustin's show, so I'll be doing that.
Speaker 5: Please go to my Instagram page and get your tickets.
Speaker 6: I'll be hosting that and then going directly to Dustin's
Speaker 6: show to support my Fred, my brother, my aries.
Speaker 2: My love.
Speaker 5: And we're in DC.
Speaker 6: So if anybody wants to book us for a club
Speaker 6: appearance Saturday night, we.
Speaker 5: Can and stop pouring myself out for dollars. I would love.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 3: And Justine, they can book you in Justine the Whole Injustice,
Speaker 3: they can book us for the Saturday.
Speaker 6: Oh and again, the movie comes out August twenty ninth.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be at premiere in La New York.
Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations, club.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see this weekend.
Speaker 1: I love you, guys, Sootbus Ray drops to night the
Speaker 1: doctors appoint. I love you guys and we will see
Speaker 1: you next Monday.
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