WEBVTT - The Elephant in The Room 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:05.760 When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton match. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:11.400 Thank to La from on the California the Valley. We 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.360 represent that kill of county. So if you're keeping it 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.160 real on your side of your town, you tune into 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.599 Gangster Chronicles the Goals. He gonna tell you how we 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.239 go if I line my notes will girl like Pinocchio. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.440 We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. Chronicals. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.640 This is not your average show. You're now tuned into 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:40.840 the real mcain, Big James and Big Stairs from the streets. Hello, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:49.120 we welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.479 iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.360 download the i heeart app and subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.680 For my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.840 front screen, subscribe to the gainst the Chronicles and leave 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.560 a live start rating the comment you know what they do? Man, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.880 another episode the Gangster Chronicles. Man, we're chilling with the 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.160 homie Big Steal and all the other homies in here. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.480 Who ain't on camera, Junior the Homeboy farm being all 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.920 the homies and everything, So what to do? Ain't this 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.039 raining like a motherfucker outside there? Yeah, man, it's raining 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.880 and ship's been raining all fucking week. Shit raining for 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.000 the last two motherfucking weeks. But week in here, nice 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.640 warm coas. I don't like the rain this ship. I 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.440 know they say we need it, but I don't like 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.600 the rain. Man. Motherfucker's drive crazy. Got a gang of accidents, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.280 road slippery, you know what I'm saying. Then when you 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.800 got kids out there driving, you know you you extra uh, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.440 you know, cautious and shit worried about you know, the 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.039 kids behind the wheel show. You know, everybody out there 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.240 be careful. If you're on the west right now, you're 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:52.280 caught in all this rain. And that's for show. So 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.320 what's been the latest Monday that shit. I ain't been 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.360 doing shit, man, just post to try and get this 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.840 stuff together, you know, just just been peeping out what's 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.280 been going on everything? You know, like I said, we 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.359 had to you had to hip hop fifty shit, you know, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.560 a certain getting ready to go to college this summer. Um. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.440 Just trying to stay busy, you know what I'm saying. It's, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.600 you know, the first of the year, trying to get 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.720 ship cracking. I know everybody out there hard working, trying 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.639 to get their ideas off the ground, you know what 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.160 I'm saying. So, man, we've just been trying to stay busy, man, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.720 trying to stay you know, relevant for shilling, staying up 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.560 the way of the bullshit. Especially the older you get man, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.920 you know what I'm saying. You know, we start getting 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.359 a little older, they start wanting to retire you and 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.240 put you to the side and tell you it's trying 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.600 to sit down. So, you know, just trying to stay relevant. Man. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.080 It's it's hard enough on top of you know, bills 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.680 and trying to check money and all that shit. You know, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.760 that's for the average motherfucker. You know, we are a 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.840 little a little fortunate to you know, have a job 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.919 and have shit to do. Speak of the people people 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.920 tuned in and shit like that. But it's just a 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.560 hard struggle for people, man, right now, you know what 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.080 I'm saying. Yeah, for sure, without a doubt. Man. You 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.919 know one thing that was go ask and we was 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.240 talking about earlier, Man, we was talking about like to me, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.200 in my opinion, man, Gainst the rep kind of saved 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:25.040 the music industry to a certain extent um. I mean 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.000 I look at I look at music as transitions. You 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:33.799 know what I'm saying. When I first got started with music, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.880 you know what I'm saying, there was really no gang 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.960 affiliation as far as music is concerned. Lot of the 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.320 music was East Coast, you know what I'm saying, So 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.920 deal with it on that aspect. But you know, we 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.680 started making noise on the West Coast. I'm pretty sure 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:59.320 a lot of people thought that, you know, the downfall 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.080 of hip hop was gonna be probably great because you know, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.360 West Coast took over as far as making music is 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:12.280 concerned around that time, from you know, the early nineties 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.720 to the mid nineties. You know, there's a lot of 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.320 West Coast artists who you know, were stepping in the 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.320 door and not just on gangster ship either. You know 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.080 what I'm saying. We had a lot of diversity as 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.240 far as music is concerned, but we had our time. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.760 You know, I'll say, you know, between ninety two and 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:39.480 ninety five ninety six, you know, West Coast artists really 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.080 put their steak in the foundation of hip hop. You know, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.839 I'm saying, not knowing what people thought of hip hop 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.440 at the time, you know, you know, I still listen 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.279 to people like Llo, and I was listening to people 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.000 like Trial car Quest and ed Og and the Bulldogs, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.440 Gang Star. You know. But I don't know if people 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.680 were saying that New York was losing a little bit 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:11.640 of you know, because a lot of shit became about 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.760 the dollar sign and commercialized and ship like that, whereas 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.120 you know, over here on the West Coast, really we 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.479 just we were dealing with, you know, shit that we 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.040 dealt with basically is growing up in the hood or 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.840 having to deal with the you know, what was going 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.120 on on the West Coast as far as the gang 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.680 culture and you know, being a young black motherfucker in 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.680 the neighborhoods, having to live in places like Compton, South Central, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:43.480 watts Long Beach. You know, we were we were stereotyped 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.360 back then, as you know, khaki suits or T shirt 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.560 and cap that meant you belonged to a gang. So 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.080 there's a lot of oppression we had to speak on 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.839 because we didn't have a voice, so our voice became 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.800 the microphone. Yeah, exactly, man, And we will be going 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.839 through this, man, you know, over the course of the show, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.159 other episodes and stuff, we go always go back to 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.880 this because I'm looking at nineteen ninety the albums that 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.800 came out, It was a run. Man. I would say 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.520 like probably from eighty nine to about ninety six that 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.960 the greatest music ever in hip hop was being made. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.880 That year. You had Mama said Knock you Out. That 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.120 came out nine one is a joke Publican and Me, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.640 the Humpty Dance recipes of the Homie shot Gee, Welcome 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.360 to the Terror Doome? Can I kick? A tribe call 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.240 Quest jacking for Beats Q that was off a monster album. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.360 You know what I mean? Against the rep rock this 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.440 funky joint, poor righteous teachers. You know, a tribe call 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.040 Quests EPMD Burn, Hollywood Burn, Oppet and ally by nature 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:44.920 not by nature. Tracks for him to be as g 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.680 as he was. Dog. He had the poppiest records. Dog. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.760 His records all pop. He always had strong ass hooks 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.760 and his music. Shout out to tracks, man, some one 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.800 of them one of my people's. Man, Oh for sure 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.919 we go had to get tracks up here. You know, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.520 you had Nahs came up with New York Straight of Mind, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.200 the Ghetto Boys, the Homies mind playing tricks on me. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.880 It was just you know, Pete Rock and Seos movie 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.320 they reminisce over you. You know, slow down, brand Newbian 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.520 You know, Karras Won MC's act like they don't know 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.920 the other side of the town. Master Eight's got five 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.200 on it. You know what I'm saying. It's like it 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.800 was a it was a diverse time with music. Like 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:29.640 I said, everybody had, you know, critical projects. If you 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.360 asked me, I don't give a fuck how big they 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.240 was promoted or whatever. But around that time and era, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.760 you know, it was a good time for music because 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.280 you know, hip hop was catching on. You know, the 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.960 executives upstairs and the and the suits and ties and 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.680 the people signing the contracts and whatever. You know, they 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:56.000 started opening up a little bit more to our culture 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.160 of hip hop seeing that it was making a gang 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.920 of money around. Because look at all those releases you 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.520 just named. A lot of those were the big records, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.559 all of them. That's that's the thing. Everything I named 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.800 off was like a monster ass record. It was just 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.160 a crazy time and hip hop. I think too, man, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.040 And I think the biggest thing you got to look 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.280 at it was a little bit more diversity because you 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.800 still had the brothers like Public Enemy that was talking, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.440 you know, pushing the pro black line, you know, giving 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.360 people knowledge yourself and all that you had naves to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.880 have some big records. Shoot ninety five, what are y'all dropping? 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.959 Ninety five? I dropped? Or we come strapped at nine, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.200 we come strapped. What's turned out to be one of 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.559 your biggest albums. That's what I'm saying. We just had 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.120 We just had bomb ass music then. I ain't gonna 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.679 say that the music today ain't tight, but it's just 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.959 a different area. It was more quality coming out back then. Definitely. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.520 I mean not to say that music is in quality today. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:58.680 I think it's just a difference of of of the 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:06.160 times you're on I'm saying, Um, we we were very 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.960 particular on on what went in as far as production 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.720 and making records. Um. It took not not to discredit 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.560 any producers or beat makers, you know, because they have 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:23.400 this distinction today of a producer and a beat maker, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.480 which which I which I would? You know, I commend 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.320 that ship, you know, because there's a lot of cats 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.160 who just make beats, you know, and then there's a 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.400 lot of dudes who produce records. You know. It's a 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:42.640 difference between busting lyrics and making a song. With me, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.320 I felt like at that time, you know, more song driven, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.320 you know what I'm saying, uh, what it took to 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.800 really make a song. Not to say that there aren't 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.840 songs today as far as hip hop concerned with the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.920 new artists, Uh, there's just certain dudes who am to 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.480 make you know, good use it feel men, and there's 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.400 just rap and then there's rappers. Not to discredit them either, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.400 but it takes a lot to make a song that 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.840 a motherfucker want to spend his hard earned money on. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.400 We're back in My time, you know, motherfucker wanted to 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.520 spend his hard, hard earned money on. And for the 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.000 fact that you know, being able to get played on 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.520 the radio and shit, Um, for me, I just wanted 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.640 to stay true to the craft. So I really didn't. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:32.920 I really didn't aim for radio, but it's a significant yeah, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.079 when you're going to try to be that type of artist. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.520 You know what I'm saying, Well, your songs always performed 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:42.000 good at radio because I know the one big radio 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.920 record that you did have was Mike Exam All for 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.760 the Money, All for the Money. That was a big record. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.480 All for the Money was radio. Straight up minutes was radio. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.440 I mean anything could basically but be radio if you 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.080 take the fucking cuss words out like we used to do. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.439 But yeah, for real, But I know the Joe Temple eight, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.880 you know, the West Coast used to be back then, 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.640 used to be poop chapoom boom chap. I don't know 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.280 if you remember the era. Everything was kind of fast page, 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.280 you know what I mean. I mean I didn't went 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.199 into the g funk sound and stuff. Yours was always 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.880 kind of outside everything else. You had your own thing going, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.920 for sure. I just want to I don't know. I 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.560 just wanted to create different shit, um, not coming from 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:29.960 nobody's camp. You know. Um, everything I did was you know, constructed, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.760 as far as what I thought that I should be 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.600 rapping to, as far as who I thought uh I 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:41.280 was as an artist. I wanted to be very descriptive 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.840 with my shit. I wanted to tell stories, you know. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.760 I didn't want to be one of those braggadocious rappers. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.559 You know, I miss something that I miss something that 0:11:53.000 --> 0:12:00.000 I just wanted to talk about situations that the situations 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.600 that I or I seen my niggas in, or families in, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.440 or just growing up where I grew up at, you know, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.120 poverty police, you know, always wanting better and dreams of better, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.600 you know. So That's what I spoke on. So I 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:20.439 felt like I couldn't do that shit as far as 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.960 trying to, you know, trying to tell a motherfucker how 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.400 hard life was for me. Now, everybody didn't go through 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.560 what I went through as a kid, and not to 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.520 say that my life was fucked up, because you asked me. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.559 I had a good, motherfucking life as a kid. You know, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.200 my parents got divorced, you know what I'm saying. But 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.720 moms did what she did. Did I still have a 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.520 connection with my dad somewhat, you know, not really moms 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.440 did it all. So I just I just, you know, 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.840 just growing up as a kid, I saw this. I 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.000 saw that we struggled here, we struggled there. So I 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.280 felt I want to put that in music. And then 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:04.120 I felt like I couldn't talk to people in a 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:09.080 sense of trying to let them understand what I'm telling them. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.440 And a dance record, you get me. I just I 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:19.400 just I don't know, I guess banging not like everybody. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.680 You know, all my niggas bang, we hood niggas. Everybody 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.160 did that shit. But I just couldn't, you know, I 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.240 just couldn't see myself trying to be the person I was, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.000 knowing where I came from and what struggles I went 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.880 through as a kid, and my mom and family and 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.400 living where we lived at in Compton. I just didn't 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.520 see no party in it. I mean, I didn't see nothing. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.280 Even when we was in the hood and flashlight was 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.360 banging and niggas was getting high and we was chilling 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.640 and having cookedouts and just hanging, niggas was still looking 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.079 over their shoulder half the time. You had to be 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.720 you know what I'm saying. It was the terror Dome 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.240 back then. Yeah, we had good times, but it was 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.240 always alert time. So that's what my music was. My 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.320 music was like, yeah, you know, we could kick it 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.400 and low ride and smoke and funk with the girls 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.880 and all that shit, but they're gonna we still got 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.440 a car full of guns and we're riding in the 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.000 enemy territory and ship like that. So that's where my 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:29.360 music was. You gotta give a hat's off to which 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.720 y'all was doing back then, because you mentioned something earlier. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.280 Back then in the nineties, if you was coming out 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.400 to West you had to be quoted on almost you 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.760 had to come through either the tray or the NWA 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.960 family tree. Right, you feel what I'm seeing. Everybody. You know, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.120 if you look at West Coast Hip Hop the daily, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.400 that's the landscape of it. Everybody in West Coast Hip Hop, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.360 with the exception of you, falls from that NWA family tree. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.680 You gotta remember Q putting mac ten on, so he 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.040 came from that tree um iced tea. He put a 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.880 lot of people, and you gotta say, dub kind of 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.760 put um iced tea, kind of put dube on ice 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.880 put dub on. So you definitely had to come in 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.640 through somebody else that was already doing a thing, because 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.600 if you wouldn't coming through there, they wasn't trying to 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.480 hear you. Almost. I mean I had. I mean, we knew, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:22.680 we knew Easy, we knew ran Um. I didn't know 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.840 Q personally up until later on. I didn't know iced T. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.680 You know, King T was from Compton, Toddy T was 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:36.960 from the hood. But as far as like coming through 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:44.360 a camp, um I started Compton's most wanted chill was 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:49.160 the beat box. When we started um from there, you 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.040 know what I'm saying. I started writing raps. Yeah, you know, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.400 I would write raps. Chill would bust his verse, I 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.880 would bust my shit, but we did didn't have any 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.880 significant motherfuckers to come through. It wasn't like, you know, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.080 I was the cousin of Dre or Easy was Chills 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:13.000 cousin or you know. We was just two young niggas 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:18.960 trying to bang and music started and how we was 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.640 gonna get in Hella, fuck it if I know, like 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:27.120 I said, because we didn't know anybody. But you know, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.840 we started hanging with some niggas across the street from 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.840 Chill House who was trying to get into the game. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:39.160 They were some singing niggas. So from there I started 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.800 writing raps and shit. We had nowhere to do demo. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.280 We didn't know nothing about that shit. I was just 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.800 a fan of music because I heard six in the 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.560 Morning and I heard Toddy T with the Batta ram 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.280 and I heard Keen T with paybacks a mother and 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.560 shit like that. So I was like, man, I don't 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.480 talk about the hood too and talk about Compton in 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.480 the streets and in the police and the gangs. But 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:10.120 we didn't have no hook up. Just by just by chance, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.520 we was fucking with these two niggas across the street. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:20.719 They had a motherfucking uh audition or appointment with fucking 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.600 Lonzo from the Wrecking Crew. We just happened to fucking 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.040 tag along and got up there, and that's when I 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:34.480 first met DJ Slip and I recorded a demo tape. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.679 We did a re demo tape like in somebody's fucking 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.280 living room, off of a keyboard and ship. We weren't 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.680 even in those studio. And I wrote this song man 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.040 like long time Ago, and me and Chill performed it, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.960 and we played the niggas the demo, and you know, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.919 a greedy motherfucker looking at two young niggas, you know, 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:02.760 Compton is getting off, so nigga see dollar signs. I 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:07.040 didn't see shit. All I wanted to do was put 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:13.879 out a fucking record. So we met a known mat 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:20.240 Linzo that DJ Slip, and a known knew I had 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.840 something in me, so he automatically hooked me up with 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.160 Slip Star. Fucking with Slip Star going and Slip had 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.960 all the shit I was looking for. Yeah, Slip had 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.679 the fucking the Fox track, he had the mic, he 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:41.280 had the speakers, the DJ equipment I was fantasizing about. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.679 He had already set up, already set up, So I 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.000 just got the fucking with slip every day and the 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.120 Slip was part of La Sound Control Mob. They used 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.119 to do all the concerts. But you know, it wasn't 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.680 an NWA A hook up, or it wasn't doctor Dre 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.119 or you know, if you want to say that I 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.960 got hooked up with Lonzo and Unknown, then that's where 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.760 I came from. But we didn't come through the cube ranks. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.760 We didn't come through the Dre ranks, the easy ranks. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.680 We just started conference most wanted. I started writing raps 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.399 and it was it like that. So that's how we 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.360 got in, you know what I'm saying. Knome was one 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.639 of them record motherfucker's you know on the West Coast. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.040 Everybody had little labels and shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.760 So we came in through Unknown. Knome hooked us up. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.400 He got us an independent deal. They put our shit out, 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:41.600 you know, independently, and from there we went from from 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.879 Big Beat, through Capital, through Orpheus to Epic in the 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.480 rest of his history. You know, it was never a 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.359 co sign, you know what I'm saying, Like Dray didn't 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.320 call nobody was like give Ayton and the deal or e. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.199 We didn't go through ruthless or we didn't go through 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.879 street knowledge, your lynch mob. You know, we was all 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:08.240 motherfucker's Yeah, because YO almost wound up on death Row ricords. Yeah, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.640 we um. We didn't end up on death Row, but 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.600 we was at the beginning of the introduction of death Row. 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.200 I don't know how many people know it, but Unknown 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:25.480 was fucking with Shug and he knew that they was 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:31.080 getting ready to start some shit. Som me Unknown, Slip 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:35.280 and Chill had a meeting one night and Unknown told 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.159 us that Dre and them was from to start a 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:42.560 label and that they was looking for, you know, names 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.520 for the label. And we sat up at the table 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.560 and we came up and we thought of this ship 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:52.640 called death Row, which was spelled d ef. They had coats, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.960 leather coats and all this other type of ship. But 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.199 we were never gonna be signed to death Row. I 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.000 don't know as far Compter's most wanted was concerned maybe 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:07.959 write some songs for somebody, But I looked at it 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.479 as as as you know, being a part of the 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:17.359 circle shit that was getting started with death Row. Never 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.880 never did Unknown say that he was gonna go approach Dre, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.800 and I don't know what the fuck his intent was 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.760 because Unknown was a nigga behind the scenes who did shit, 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.199 you know, without our consult whatever whatever he felt like 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.120 he wanted to do, as far as CMW was concerned, 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.400 because at the time we were signed to his production company. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.600 So but yeah, he came and told us that they 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.920 were going to form this new label and they were 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.760 calling a Death Row and it was d ef Row 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.160 instead of death like it is now. I guess they 0:21:55.240 --> 0:22:00.680 changed it. I was good friends with Big Mike and 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.399 three two they were that was supposed to be the 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.600 first act on Death Row before Dre did his project 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.760 and Snoop and everybody else. It was three two and 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.640 Big Mike and I don't know what happened with that 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.600 situation or the falling out of it, but uh, yeah, 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.160 they could rest in peace, my nigga. Three two. Yeah, 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.040 three two's probably one of the most influential motherfuckers in 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.360 the game that people don't really know. But three two 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.879 was the one year big baby. Yeah. Three two was 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.040 very influential to a lot of shit, you know. And 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.639 I'm not gonna speak on it, but if you know 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.479 three two, like I knew three two and a lot 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.160 of people you know who were close to him. He 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.159 was very influential in a few people's styles and what 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:50.000 developed from from you know, copying that you know different 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.720 and they ain't taking men away from them people. They 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.399 was great already anyway. But he did give people a 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:58.920 lot of little shit that they know I'm saying. I mean, 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:02.000 because like I said, they were all integral in in 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.080 in Form and death Row. They all probably sat up 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:09.400 together and wrote music together, fad off for each other. 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.239 And I guess that's what you do when you're a 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.800 real crew and y'all all out for each other's best interest. 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.919 You know what I'm saying. You help a motherfucker. You 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.879 know what I'm saying, Yeah, motherfucker's trying to come up 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.800 with hit records, man exactly. And you know, one of 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.240 the things that didn't really go down back then like 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.280 it is they I think it did go down, but 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.440 it wasn't talked about as much. It's like you said, 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.919 in the course of people making records together, you can 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.119 give somebody a line or to right. Somebody may contribute 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:39.719 to a hook or something. You're trying to come up 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.080 with a hit record and everything, so it ain't necessarily 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.280 about but back then it wasn't a whole bunch of it. 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.320 I'm a half a nigga, come through and write my 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.639 whole rap for me. That's why what Easy it was 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.840 such a big deal because you know, Cube was doing 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.280 all this writing. The Ram was writing form, DC was 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.159 writing form, you know what I mean. But that was 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.960 accept that. I didn't even think back and we even 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.679 focused on that ship. Did you did you ever, like, really, 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:10.000 when you first heard in Wa or straight out of Compton, whatever, 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.840 and when Easy was busting, should you ever sit down 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:19.480 and go, I know, Easy ain't writing now Hill, No, 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.240 he was just jamming. I never got into that type 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:28.160 of shit until it was brought to my attension about 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.879 publishing and writers and you know, you're getting money for 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.399 that ship and all of that, because before the end, 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.480 you I know, shit, you know, I was writing Chills 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:42.480 wraps in the beginning when we first started comptens most wanted. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.359 But I wasn't like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to write 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.240 his ship because I'm trying to collect that publishing checking 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.600 all of that. I just I would just go home 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.959 and write out wraps for verses and Chill was my nigga, 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.800 my partner, So I'm like shit, I'm gonna take two. 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.760 I'm gonna give him too. That's I didn't look at 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:08.720 it like, oh yeah, he writing all the songs. I 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.240 just figured like nigga, motherfucker gave me a beat, they 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.359 would send me home with a beat and tell me 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.879 go write something to it. And knowing like Chill was 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:22.600 my nigga and he aparted a crew, I was like, well, 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.119 I'm not gonna wrap no fucking foulk verses, So I'd 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.280 write two verses out for me, write two verses out 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.600 for him, being go. I didn't know nigga was collecting 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.560 money off of the ship and publishing, because that wasn't 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.320 money wasn't even like it. And I know it's dumb 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.159 to say, but money wasn't even the capture for me. 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.240 Money wasn't even the you know, to sign on the 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.399 dotted line. For me, it was just being able to 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.440 go on the fucking studio and look at all the 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.600 equipment and see a nigga put a beat together and 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:57.280 then I can write a song to it. Nigga out 0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.680 and payday for me. You give him saying I'm on 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.480 the block, sitting on the corner every day trying to 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.520 sell little little little dope and ship, you feel me? 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.240 And I'm getting to witness this other side of life 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.680 that I don't know. It was never no vision. I 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.480 don't know. I don't know. When you come from the 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.800 hood and you whatever, people have dreams or aspect. But 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.040 like I said, Nigga one side once, it was about 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.560 gang banging and selling dope and hood rat bitches and 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.440 shit like that. There was no dreams, Nigga, I made him. 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.800 I gotta be a low low. I got me a spot. 0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.200 I gotta be a couple of chicken heads. How good 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.359 to fucking go you? Life is fucking great? Ship? Are 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.120 you getting to it? And the money was a little 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.840 different back then, because I remember for a soundtrack at minimum, 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.040 you would fucking around to pick up twenty twenty five 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.560 thousand that minimum just for turning me in a song. Oh, definitely, 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.359 you got shit. Niggas was getting like thirty thousand to 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.399 do samet Eys commercials and shit, my nigga, DJ pooh 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:08.160 you feel me, um pooh? Definitely don't. Is it lucrative 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.959 like hip hop is seen today? No, because a lot 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.200 of us, a lot of us struggled for those contracts 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:21.840 and struggled to be you know, motherfuckers wanted to be 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:28.040 them Shugs, then Birdman's, then Puffy Jermaine Dupris. But you know, 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.760 a lot of us got you know, a lot of 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.399 us got fucked. Remember this shit right here, A lot 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.200 of us got fuck coming into the business because, like 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.440 I said, as a young motherfucker, you really don't know 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.280 the business. Hey, do you remember this? Oh that's what, 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.600 like I said, Saint Ice was giving out money for 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.720 niggas to do commercials. So for a struggling artists, you 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.639 might think a motherfucker making a gang of brand, you 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:57.120 feel me. But for a lot of struggling artists back then, 0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.480 those were those were you know, extra curricular activities and 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.679 nigga could do to get that side check because they 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.360 were coming in with no hesitation, no negotiation or none 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.120 of that. Nigga, do us a commercial, Higgo twenty five 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.680 thirty ran, So you know, it was a lot of 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.919 you know, as far as how niggas make money today 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.640 from streaming and podcasting and doing a lot of other 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.400 different ships, it was it was kind of a struggle 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.880 for an artist who wasn't getting that that easy money 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.159 or that death row money or that ship like that. 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.440 Nowadays you see cats man everybody getting money. Yeah, And 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.920 as a cat that was always like kind of independent minded. 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.280 I was always because I had a few deals, but 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.840 I was always to do that winning got because you know, 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.840 I remember I was a rapper, but I had a 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.440 record store too, right, so I understood how distribution works. 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.520 So it never made no sense in my mind to 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.640 go give a motherfuck all this and that not new. Okay, 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.880 If I'm going to the ones stop when I'm paying 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:07.360 seven dollars and the nigga talked about giving me twenty cents, 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.040 it didn't make no system. I'll said, well, what the 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.720 rest of the money going to? You know what I'm saying, 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.760 what is happening? I don't think a lot of I 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:17.280 don't think a lot of artists because if if if 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.520 a lot of the artists from that era knew what 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.920 they knew today as far as contracts, you'd have a 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.680 gang of independent motherfucking labels around. Yeah, because yeah, because 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.000 you don't want no deal right now, do you? Hell 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.960 fucking no a nessa nigga finna give me about thirty 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.360 something million in cash me out? What's the point? Because 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:43.640 you can constantly as an independent. The money is better, 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.440 especially now with streaming and all the other shit you 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.720 can do. There's no way, like I said, unless a 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.600 motherfucker finna just start off in the millions and be 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.280 like here, I'm a hand you five million, but you 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:58.800 gotta look at it. At the end of the day, 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.480 you still gotta pay that five million back. And that's 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.920 what I'm saying to you. They loaning you five million, 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.240 then they FINDI charge you on top of the five 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.240 of what they gave you. They FINDI charge you a 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.440 gang of motherfucker shit like biggas is. Like back in 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.920 the days, niggas come out with any voices where they 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.520 charging you for having conversations on the phone. Oh dog, 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.880 And if my lawyer got on the phone and had 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.440 a conversation with the label and it went on for 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.640 thirty forty minutes, he was charging me for that shit 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:34.240 you getting me? Uh if the label motherfucking they seen 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.640 you on a promo tour, Oh yeah, that costs US 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.000 forty fifty thousand. And you know the fuck the part 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.440 about them loans, dog, Usually when you get a loan, 0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.440 like a fuck walking to the bank. If I walking 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.120 the wheels frog and say okay, I want to get 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.520 a bank alone to buy this Rose Royce. I'm gonna 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.520 go pick the Rose roy Side. I want to drive 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.160 and I'm gonna, you know, and they gonna get me 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.680 the loan for it. With the Rigor label, it's almost 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.840 like they spending the money up that they loaning you 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.160 and then't charging you for right because you can't tell them, 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.280 motherfucker's O, don't go spend half a million dollars on 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.440 this shit. They're gonna go, hell, yeah, we're gonna do it. 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.200 As an independent you can control that. But like you said, 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.480 as a label, no, you're gonna sign that contract. They're 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.320 gonna hand you that three fold million up front. Then 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.280 you're gonna go, okay, I gotta pay back this threefold million. 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.920 They're gonna go, okay, when we flew you from here 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.520 to there and there to there to there as another 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.680 three hundred thousand when we did this. When we did that, 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.080 they just spending money. Like you said, you don't get 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.360 to control the budget. At the end of the day, 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.320 that three that three million they gave you up front 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.560 for the record and from the back end is six 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.200 You get me because all the other hidden ship that 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.520 they got to pay for promotions, and I know all 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.760 that shit is official, but still you don't get to 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.120 control that budget. So whatever they want to spend, they spend, 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.200 and they go they okay, now we're charging you back 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:57.480 for it, motherfucker. Be like I didn't won't know, motherfucking 0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.840 this or that, and they go, it don't matter. We 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.800 saw that in your promotion. So that's what we paid for. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.120 And another thing too, let's say you signed the aftermath. 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.040 It ain't like I think a lot of people gotten 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.920 they heard that Drey is just coming to give you 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.040 all them beats for free or to discount of rates 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.680 charging I'm talking. Yeah. So if your budget there's a 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.360 million dollars in Drake Sharks and you two fifty a track, 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.000 you might only be able to afford to have one 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:29.800 Drade track on that motherfucker. But then how do you 0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.520 control Like I said, then then how do you control that, 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.880 because then at the end of the day, they still 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.840 get to make the call on what's usable and what's not. 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.719 That's some real ship. But if you can only afford one, 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.520 got to give you a discount of something. I can 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.640 afford one of those two hundred and fifty thousand dollars tracks. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.080 But now I gotta go to niggas who charging me 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.240 a thousand dollars a track or five hundred, and like 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.280 I said, at the end of the day, those niggas 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.120 might not get approved because when you're gonna turn the 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:03.920 project and they can find out speaking the beat from 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.080 from from john S from down the block, who who's 0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:13.280 just started doing beats last year, and they might not 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.560 approve his track. You know, they might be like, no, 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.880 fuck this, because that's the truth. People don't understand that 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.080 they have to approve your album before it comes up. Yeah, 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.680 unless you unless you got that pool and that power 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.520 as a regular artist today, you have no you know. 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.560 That's why a lot of mother fuckers come out independently. 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.000 That's why you got a million artists out right now 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.640 because everybody, you know, I don't have to go that route. 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.600 I can go sign up to a SoundCloud or a 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.760 tune core or whatever and put my shit out on 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.840 my own and let it go for the gust. Though 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.040 now my ship might not have the million dollars video 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.880 like DJ Kalin got, or my ship might not have 0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:59.600 the fucking produced by DJ Premier track on it get me, 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:04.600 But the market is flooded right now, and that's what 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.080 artists are able to do. Like I said, but we 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.000 have no restriction on that either because let's face and 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.000 a lot of that should be garbage. Now. The albumics 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.600 you and Premiere did together that they come out independent, Yeah, 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.360 I mean, we push shit independent. I mean, that's the 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.200 way to go now, to push independent, especially if you're 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.120 you know, um, I mean, that's what's best for me. 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.600 I don't know what's best for any other artists who've 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.280 come from my era who's still trying to make music, 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:38.360 or for the new artist who's down somewhere and in 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.239 his girlfriend's kitchen with the set up and he's trying 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.080 to get exposed and all he can make it too 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.800 is the homies in the neighborhood and around the corner. 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.200 I mean it takes a lot. Yeah, you know, it's 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.080 just ship. Just like football and in trying to get 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.600 to the NFL. You know what I'm saying, it's a 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.799 it's a million of us. It's a million motherfucker's going 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.440 to high school, some million motherfuckers. But there's only a 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.080 few that make it to college. It's only a few 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.600 to make it dog and out of that college. You 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.600 get me, So you gotta look at yourself for the 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.120 same level as being an artist. It's a billion of 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:20.520 artists out here. Man, niggas working out. You gave me. 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.880 They're working out and they kitchen right and raps George 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:27.400 songs you give me. And are they gonna be the starter? 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.880 Are they gonna be the nigga ride in the bench? 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.840 You didn't ye get on the team nowadays? Now starting 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.040 at the high school level, what don't matter. Fucking you 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.279 pay that thousand fucking dollars. They finna getting your motherfucking uniform. Right, 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.640 you're on the squad. You ain't gonna never see the 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.680 field though, And you know what do eight. I'm a 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.799 loop around a little bit on some stuff because I gotta, 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.400 you know, kind of address this stuff. A lot of 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.640 people don't know. Whatever you want to do, whether it's 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:59.719 music or podcasting, the best way to get on and 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.120 to get favorable terms. This is a boy spending your 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.640 own money and doing certain shit, right, Like you know, 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.200 we got the Gangster Chronicles podcast. You got to invest 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.120 in yourself. Yeah, you gotta invest in yourself. So with 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:13.000 a lot of people don't know, I came up with 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.280 the Gangster Chronicles PODCEP. I did what nobody else around. 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.520 Glasses Malone was sitting in my living room with him. 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.680 It was about one thirty in the morning. You know, 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.360 you're just kicking me with the homie. Were sitting in 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.320 my living room and I said, nigga, I'm gonna do 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.000 a podcast. We was trying to do a podcast with Glasses. 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.360 This is way back and maybe two thousand and sixteen, 0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.080 when the podcast stuff wasn't even cracking like adios now. 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.080 It wasn't nowhere. It was only a few people doing 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.800 it right, So I was messing with Glasses and it 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.239 wasn't you know. He wasn't too serious about it at 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.160 the time. You know, Glasses may come, he may not 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.200 show up. You know, a lot of us rappers didn't. Really. 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.000 Podcasting was new still, so when you when you're trying 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.839 to take a nigga from from the microphone and put 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.080 it on the microphone, but in a disparate aspect, niggas 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.960 was looking at it like man podcast, Glasses thought out 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.840 lost my mind because he wanted did it with me? 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.880 Did it? Ever? So he said Steel like, what the 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.239 fuck is that ship? And you know what Glances told 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.400 me said steal I fuck with you. You my big bro. 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.359 He said, man, but therein't nobody out here. Go listen 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.799 to that ship, you know. So I said, watching sea 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.880 man watching seats gonna be the biggest thing ever. So 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.080 I had a homeboy that worked in the CBS building 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.560 and he said, you know, you could use the studio 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.080 up there, but they charged me. I had to pay 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.040 for engineers. So when I first started the Gangster Chronicles, dog, 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.239 I think I was paying like every week though this 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.520 was all your idea, Yeah, this is all my da. 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:36.440 Nobody sat down with you. No partners, no homeians, none 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.720 man less we should we should we should? We should none. 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:45.759 The only made you call it the Gangster Chronicles. Well, 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.440 because when I initially thought of a gagster chronicles, the 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.360 chronicles something means to tell a story, right. It was 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.359 never supposed to be just about rict bloods against ship. 0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.759 It was supposed that was one of my uh questions, 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:06.040 Like because somebody asked me that, why gangster chronicle? Yeah, 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.120 because it was supposed to encompass everything that's gangsterism, from 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:14.200 the mafia to even the motherfucking m the Arian brotherhood. 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.080 That's gangster ship. You know what I mean, that's their 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.640 gang gangster music, right. It was supposed to be everything 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.959 to kind of run around the parameters of what normal 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:27.040 society yells. Right, that's considered gangster. Let's considered gangster. And 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.480 you know, so Glasses was sitting up there with me. 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.600 I had Reggie right in mind because he was one 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:34.759 of the dudes that came from the Death Row era, right, 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.920 I had Reggie right in mind. So I got that Reggie. 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.959 Then Glasses was like, you know what it was because 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.680 I was on the first four original episodes, right, and 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.439 I was gonna move to a land at the time, 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:49.839 So I said, I got to get somebody else. That's 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.680 when we brought this other caddy. And I ain't gonna 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.120 say his name. I didn't want to say the other 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.560 dude's name, but to put a long story short, before 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.640 we made a dime out against the Chronicles, I was 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.600 about probably thirty grand to this motherfucker dog because this 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.719 is your pet project. Here's my pet project, baby, this 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:12.000 is your shit. So regardless of who you selected as 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.680 a host or not, Gangster Chronicles was your project. It 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.520 was my project and not free and I share freely 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.120 with the mother. Actually, I was probably a little bit 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.520 too free with the money, because this is how I 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.640 always looked at it. I'm gonna pay for everything, We're 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.920 gonna split everything down the middle. I ain't know, greedy, 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.839 motherfucking you know, I get something, you're getting the piece 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.560 of it. You're getting the piece of it. You know, 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.279 we all can do good with this, right. But I 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.839 think people got the sense of getting too entitled after 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.680 a wild dog and have a tendency to run around 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.200 with the wrong people, because, as you notice, we minus 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.360 the host that used to be on the show exactly. 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.520 That's not my fault be mad to do dick you 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.160 over there sitting with because he did this shit to you, right. 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.320 I didn't come up with the question, you know, and 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.880 not not really you're a people just asked me questions, 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:07.120 and you know the information is what I tell people 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:13.480 is that you know, um, executive decisions were made, you know, 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:19.239 not that it was it was like a hater thing 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:24.760 or or like whatever. But you know, sometimes situations happen. 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:29.759 You know, um, is it gonna Is it gonna affect 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:37.080 people in a certain way? Of course? Um? Shit. When 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.279 I had a fucking contract with Epic, I thought I 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.120 was gonna be signed to a fucking label forever you 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.920 get me. And then I got the phone call one 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.640 day to say, nigga, you we we're not gonna renew 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:55.719 your contract. M Sometimes I lost for a minute for 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.400 a second, because now I got to figure out the 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.359 next step. Yeah, but somebody else eventually came along and said, hey, 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.840 we want to fuck with you. Somebody else came along 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.799 and said we want to fuck with you. And then 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.160 eventually I just got the ship like, well, god damn. 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:15.839 It seems like I could be more on hands if 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.880 I started doing my own shit. So that's what I 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.160 started doing. I started putting our records independently, and here 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.880 we are today exactly. And I ain't go well too 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.040 much show on this man because I just wanted to 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.720 address it because people have a tendency, you know, because 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.880 I wasn't go say nothing about it because, like I 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.359 said before, I didn't want to kick James off the show. Right, 0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:39.600 I'm not the reason he's not on the show no more. 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.160 You know what happened, there was two former co hosts 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.960 conspired against him, and they found out a lot of 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.160 information that was from his past. Now, one thing I 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.759 will say, when we initially first started to show one 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.000 of my partners. They hit me up and told me, man, dude, 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.360 it's hot. You shouldn't fuck with him because of this, 0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.279 this and the third. I'm not too much big in 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.319 the rumors, and I'm a grown ass man. I don't 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.279 listen to rumors. I wouldn't ask my man itself. Hey, 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.040 I got told this sex, this, this and the third 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.279 that you had this going on or no, that's people. Hey, 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.080 ill left for the loan Dog because it wasn't my thing. 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.120 And plus, it ain't like we on this motherfucker robbing 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.319 banks or doing them malicious, right, we're telling stories though 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.640 we're talking about Shi having a conversation, you know what 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:25.120 I'm saying. So it wasn't my fault. The thing that 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.040 really cracks me up is that the god is responsible 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.600 for all this shit is happening. Is he's sitting over 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.960 there with him now doing the show. That's the person 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.800 all the animosity should be pointed to. I didn't do 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.600 this stuff. I just this is a business at the 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.840 end of the day, dog and anything that's impeded in 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:44.239 the business, because as you grow, the business gets bigger. Now, 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.840 when I was up in the CBS building, pam my 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.879 own time doing shit like this. I had a lot 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.480 more leadway to make decisions. It was all on me, 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:56.120 right because at one time, and even with the one 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.600 guy that left the show, you were talked about as 0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.800 a post but me and you had a conversation about 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.960 Shoot taking his place, right remember, like a long time ago, 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.120 so a lot of moves have been made. You came 0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:13.440 to me a while ago, right right like COVID, right 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.480 before COVID, and we had a conversation about you know, 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.600 doing you know, because remember I had wanted to do 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.920 my own podcast. Yeah, then we still gonna do that, 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.640 the Stas Spot. He was gonna do Stash Spot, and 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.719 then things transpired and you you know said what you'd 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.480 be willing to come, you know, co host throwing against 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.040 the chronicles. I didn't know how it would fit, you know, 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.040 knowing that you and and James already was in the mix. 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.680 You know, I knew about Reggie, and I knew about 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.960 the other dude, you know what I'm saying. But but 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.759 it's opportunities, you know, I never looked at it as 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.120 trying to be stepping on somebody's toes or taking somebody's position, 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.719 But you know, a job is a job, man, and 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.160 it wouldn't like that because you wouldn't stepping on toes. 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:02.840 Because the funny thing about to do Reggie is he 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.439 quit the show on his own reconnaissance. He was in jail. 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.719 He was locked up, right, Reggie was only Yeah, he 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.719 was only on the show for six months, right, he 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.200 was only on the show for six months, and he 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.239 got locked up. Never had no problem but to do. 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.120 Even still sent him money and whatever like that. I 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.759 sent him money until James told me to stop sending 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.680 them money. For whatever reason. They don't send him nothing else. 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.319 That was his thing, and noted them two dudes over 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.359 there together. It's funny to me, But I will say 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.160 this because we've grown as men. At the end of 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.640 the day, dogs, I don't have no animosity against him. 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.480 That wasn't a personal Again, if it was up to 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.279 me in certain situations, wouldn't happen. He'll still be sitting 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.400 over there, right. It wasn't nothing personal against him. It 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.920 wasn't any personal against him. We all grown as men 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.720 and we'd make decisions. But when we make those decisions, 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.920 we should look in the mirror as men and say 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:53.960 this is what I want to do because hey, you know, 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.560 I don't know nonsense, man, I know, yeah, I mean, 0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:00.200 because I was like, hey, what's going on? Remember I'm 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:01.840 calling you like, hey, what are we doing? What are 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.240 we doing? And then it was brought to my attention 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:09.000 about what was transpiring. And then I was like, well, 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.960 fuck that shit. Let's just keep pushing and trying to 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:19.040 advocate for my man James to you know, let's forget 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.560 about the other shit. Let's just keep pushing forward. But 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.200 I guess you know, the stress of like you said, 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.800 weighing on the business, and now you have outside people 0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.560 who are invested in the business who feel like certain 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:43.160 situations we're gonna bring or devalue the show exactly we are. 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.600 This is entertainment at the end of the day. Of course, 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.480 don't take it for nothing else. This entertainer right here. 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.680 We try to entertain with stories or our tales or 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.520 of current shit or back in the day ship from 0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.719 what we've seen or what we've done learned from. But 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.080 you know, again, it's all entertainment, you know what I mean. 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.640 You know what I'm saying. Whether you whether you take 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:12.120 something from it or not, we are trying to you know, 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.560 we are trying to get your ear. We're trying to 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.000 get your ear and trying to get you to listen 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.960 to our entertainment of what we feel is our perception 0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:28.840 on life in general, hip hop, sports, fucking shit, anything 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.600 that you might as a regular person, because that's what 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.640 we consider ourselves. And that's the thing. And I wouldn't 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.680 even go say numb bro. But after a while you 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.920 get tired of your name. It's like, you know, you 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.680 can see motherfucker's online and then I don't have this 0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.200 one cat fuck me around? Fuck you still, fuck you? 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.120 You did this to James, just like you said that 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.239 he was on my ship? What he was that to say? 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.560 The fuck you? Still? Hold on? That's the hony glasses 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.880 right there. Hold on one second, I'm gonna punch glasses in. 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.879 She was at the dog hey old and I'm gonna 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.440 put you on the show real quick. Hold on, I'm 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.239 gonna put you on speaker real quick. This kind of 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.680 this kind of raggedy ladies and gentlemen, because we usually 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.600 do some shit professional, but just the homey glasses a 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.759 g I just want to ask a few questions dog 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:19.160 and just answer yes and no questions. Right what this 0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.160 shit about. Hold don't matter what it's about. Just answering 0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:27.440 my questions. Just answer my mother pucker questions said, I'm 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.360 just gonna ask a few questions. Dog, Hold on, I 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:36.080 ain't gonna slid no curveball, just answering. No, this ain't 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.080 no goofy shit. Dog? But how long was a gainst 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.440 the Chronicles thought of before it actually came to effect? 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:42.680 You know, goddamn well, you made that show. Why are 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.560 you stop trying to pump shit to the public. Mante 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:50.080 people just entertained, Yeah for show, That's what I'm gonna do. 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.200 Then I just want you alone time. But why are 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.719 we talking about You cannot argue over the neck? You know, 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.160 goddamn what you came up with the idea? Why are 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:02.120 we talking about these? That's all I wanted to hear. Bro. Yeah, 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.480 but you can't plu this to nobody else, and you 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.880 shouldn't be trying to prove this to nobody else. Everybody 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.000 making content at the expense of a show and you 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.920 just going along with it. Don't do that shit. Everybody 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.960 can make their own fu content for real, That's what 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.520 it is. Nowadays. Everything is about content. Man. You just 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.440 had You just had a conversation with with the nigga 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.000 the other day, and the nigga told you the same shit. 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.360 You get here for real here, it's real shit. Nigga 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.279 just told you the same shit. And my nigga who 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.040 you talked to is one of the biggest niggas who 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.560 in this content would you say, Gee, I'm gonna say this. 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:45.840 Look when you came to meet with Gangster Chronicles and 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.440 Ship and I got the side there for a podcast 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.800 called Gagster Chronicles. At that time, you only had Reggie 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.840 right in mind. I remember that I brought you to 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.560 who my giant this is before was even on land. 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.040 This is when he just had this little piece with 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.600 the dude that was doing all of the toolproc stuff. 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.640 That dude, And I was like, Man, I knew who 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:09.680 this nigga was because I heard of me. My whole 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.160 life is being a figured from out the city. So 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.279 I was like, man, you should use him because I 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.880 believed him, and you should use alleys. The idea was 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.759 already there, It was already common inly doub But you 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.560 cannot win these debates own mind, because they're not really 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.680 meant to be winning things. You can't win a lose. 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.320 They not meant to be that, They meant to capture 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.719 the public's imagination. This shit sit me. You know, God, 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.320 there will This ain't the first time that this has happening. 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.280 This shit normal, I would just not even get involved 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.600 in it. It don't make no fucking sense. But just 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.040 leave that ship alone. You're gonna make another This is 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.120 another show. This showed y'all down right now is a 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:52.040 fucking hit. That's showth gonna be huge, way bigger. So 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.600 when it's every time you try to debate your brilliance 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.759 for other people, man, it's gonna be a problem because 0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.959 the Internet don't have like normal sense. They're just gonna 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:07.239 make their own finger n Hey, I'll call you back, bro. 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.600 I'm gonna call you back, bro. And that was glass 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.080 of Malone. You don't't have to prove shit nowadays, and 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:17.040 that's why this a start content nowadays. It don't give 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.719 a fuck whether the shit is true or not all 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.160 all all we need to do is get motherfuckers to 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.600 start listening to some outland this ship, and it's gonna 0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.560 go because you know what I could do right now, man, 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.800 I can go on this motherfucker and say whatever I 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.880 want to say and half the motherfucker's out there, go 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.359 believe it, just because they want to take a side. 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.040 Like I had this dude, Andy didn't give a fuck. 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:42.000 Eight I'm I'm sitting at home and my motherfucking million 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:46.279 dollar crib, my million dollar condo, My nigga, you're sitting 0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:50.040 at home and yo, shit, feeling good, right, you know 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.160 when showing yourself writing joy in life, and you gotta 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.520 brotherfucker telling you fuck you because he feels like you 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.680 don't done something wrong. But one of his heroes I 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.160 don't know. And you don't know this motherfucker from them 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.000 day or not. You don't know him from a cannon. 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.520 Just people who feel like that. Man, I tell people 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.759 every day, I'm not gonna please them all. And sometimes, 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.040 like I said, motherfucker, you could put out a song 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.160 and it could be a nigga you ain't never seen 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.160 in your life. He had just come on and be like, man, 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.800 fuck you, and it's all the it's all just to 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.520 start some shit. Now. You know what that motherfucker gonna do. 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.680 He gonna take that shit, He's gonna post it on 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.160 this page and go look, I'm going back and forth 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.360 with the MCA. Yeah for realness, and that's gonna motherfucker 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.280 told me and I laugh because I was in the bathroom. 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.359 Actually I laughed. I see who is this? Motherfucker? Fuck 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.640 you Still? I see it? Damn. I might call this 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.200 episode that fuck you big Still. Yeah. This episode was 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.560 called fuck you be Still fuck Still day. Yeah. Actually, 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.960 get some T shirts made if y'all want to get them. Motherfucker's. 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:57.280 But like Glasses just said, why why throw gas on fire? 0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.520 I mean because basically you can let the ship burn 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.160 itself out. You give me. We've all had to deal 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.880 with some type of ship since this internet ship, this 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.560 podcasting shit, whatever, you get me. I had to go 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.880 through the ship. You're going through the ship. James had 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:19.600 to go through the ship. Reggie had to go through 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.719 the ship. Who ain't went through some ship? You get me. 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.439 As far as people not disagreeing with what's your point 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:31.080 of view is, it's just what fucking happens. But what 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:33.200 you gotta learn how to do and we have to 0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:36.640 do is grown men and black men and motherfuckers who 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:39.120 can avoid controversy because that's what it is. Like a 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:42.799 nigga just said, it's off of content. We're gonna talk talk, talk, 0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:47.200 and talk and get motherfucker's to tune in. But at 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:48.800 the end of the day, what do you what's the 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.040 what's the end game, what's the end result at the 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.319 end of the day, what's the end game? You know what? Man, 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.160 all you're doing is providing content for another motherfucker to 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.800 creator go back and forth, because this is not what 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.520 makes it right. Yeah, that's gonna make some bread, right, 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.200 That's that's what That's what it's all for the end 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:10.360 of the day. Motherfuckers want to get paid. So this 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.759 ain't the only way I get paid. It ain't the 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.719 only thing I'll do either. You know, I got other 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.480 forms of trying of getting paid. You're getting me, and 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.960 that's what I've been doing all my life. You go 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.960 up next level, the next level. So not to disrespect nobody, 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.160 because like I said, I ain't got beef with a motherfucker, 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:29.239 and I don't have beef with somebody over a podcast. Damn. 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:37.000 You know, nothing's personal, especially nothing person mostly when I've 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:41.080 given you more than on paper which you're supposed to get. 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:44.480 I ain't inclined. Like I said, I'm the newcomer, and 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.360 I know my position and I know what it is. 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:50.400 But like I said, man, you know, at the end 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:55.400 of the day, it is what it is. It's not personal. 0:53:56.120 --> 0:54:00.719 Niggas don't have a problem with nothing as far as 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.799 who you are as a man, who motherfuckers are as 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.680 a man. Shit is business. If you've got a personal 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.920 motherfucking problem with some then maybe that needs to be 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.960 worked out the issues of whatever that shit is. But 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.680 shit is business. At the fucking end of the day. 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:23.480 You get me, just like I can get canceled tomorrow. 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:26.560 You get me and then, And that's the thing. Who 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.399 the fuck want to go through that. It's like, I'm 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.640 not sitting there pick doing this show by myself, and 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.960 they your celebrity is twenty times bigger than mine could 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.160 ever be. And I don't even like that. I don't 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.600 even like looking at myself as a celebrity. I like 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:43.880 to look at myself as a regular nigga. I've done records, 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.600 I've done some movies, you know, I've done some video 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.480 games and podcasting. Now I just look at it as 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:56.520 as as a next transition. I can't wrap forever, right, 0:54:57.080 --> 0:55:00.640 like y'all saying, we we we we all diggers. We 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.160 can't be raptored forever y'all want us to give up 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.800 the fucking mic right now, so we have to. We 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:10.040 have to transition. You get me. And it's nothing like 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.400 I said, none of this shit is personal because this 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:17.600 ain't got shit to do with my kids, right, It 0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:21.000 ain't got shit to do with with with my family 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:25.200 being you know, hurt or whatever. My fucker I've been hitting. 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.319 Motherfucker's been talking shit about me for a long ass time, 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.640 and records and everything, and they go talk shit about 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:34.520 motherfucker's forever. Because at the end of the day, dog, 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.040 that's what it is. All of this shit is meant 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.840 to a list of the conversation. That's all. It is 0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.440 a list of the conversation. You know what I mean. 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.920 Whatever we say, everybody ain't gonna agree with it. And 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.200 my whole thing is this, I'm not trying to be 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.120 the most popular fucking the world. If motherfucker out there 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:53.279 don't care care for me, whatever, that's your prerogative. Some 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.680 motherfucker's want to be that and some people don't. Some 0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.080 of us just want to sit in a comfortable seat. 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.600 And you know, you sit at the table and a 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.239 comfortable seat. I ain't trying to ask for no more 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.400 no less, give me what the fuck I deserve and 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.960 that's it. But I'm not gonna force you to like 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.480 my shit. It's like, can't I can't force the motherfucker 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:16.200 to buy my record. You get me. But I'm not 0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:19.360 gonna tell a motherfucker. Oh well, so what you know 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.040 what I'm saying, Just keep buying my shit, even if 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.800 you don't like it. You get me. Just keep buying 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.960 my shit even if you don't like it. Fuck it. 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.360 Just just just you know, man, you can support me 0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.480 in a better way. Man, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.319 let's get let me go go back to the music 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:36.960 for a little bigcause I didn't even mean for that 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:40.719 to go for as long as it did. But I 0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:42.879 want to ask you one more question for we skate 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:48.319 about this motherfucker right you in Compton, motherfucking California, Right 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:51.399 in Compton, California. Man, you haven't done all this legend 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.440 debby gangster Ship. One of my homeboys hits you up 0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.880 to jump on this record, and this motherfucker winds up 0:56:57.920 --> 0:56:59.960 being one of the biggest recording artists in the world. 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.799 Shut up to Little Homie KP. I loved at Little 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:05.360 Nigga man, he ain't a little nigga, no more kinder 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:07.480 growing up on me now. But I don't know this 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.200 since he was sixteen man, you know, always been incredible 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:13.160 little dude. How you wind up on that on such 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.879 a monumental West Coast trunk check though, it was kind 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.240 of just befitting, you know what I mean? You know shit, 0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.720 you know the Compton GUIDs were lined up. I guess 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:28.840 you know. Um, I want to first say just you know, 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:31.880 from from the work that I've done as far as 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.280 uplifting Compton, representing Compton, whether you thought it was a 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.200 good song or bad song, I've always my whole career 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:47.160 have been invested into glorifying the city of Compton. Uh. 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:51.080 It gave me my start. It's where I you know, 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:56.640 got all my research from, you know, Um, It's where 0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:01.240 I got to see live firsthand, you know, growing up 0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:06.840 in the hood. So after that, UM, I don't know. 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:10.760 I guess they were sitting up talking, you know, Kay 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.919 Punch and all the homies, you know, and I guess 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:16.760 when they were getting ready to put the record together, 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.080 they were like, you know, who do you think would 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:24.200 fit this record? You cue that. I don't know if 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.840 they want to keep it authentic Compton, because there were 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:29.240 a few choices because from what I heard, you was 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.160 only supposed to be doing some talking, and you messed 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.800 around a buff the whole verse. Are you supposed to 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:36.680 do nothing? No talking but maybe an eight bar verse 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.240 or something like that. I got to the studio, you know, 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:43.120 Kendrick had already you know, kind of lined me up 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:46.520 for you know, and that's something about him as far 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.840 as you know. Usually when I go in the studio niggas, 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:52.200 I'm like, what's the concept what we're talking about? Niggas 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:56.400 is like, man, just do you And so he was like, 0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:59.400 you know, I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:02.000 do this. He let me listen to, you know, a 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.120 little bit of a hooker, and he was telling me 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.400 about what he was thinking. He was telling me about 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:11.480 certain shit he wanted me to say, and I'm like, oh, this, 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:14.840 my nigga got direction. He already. Yeah, he's a little 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:18.320 brilliant dude. Man, he's a brilliant motherfucker. So when I 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:22.400 got there and we talked and I heard the beat, 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.240 I already knew it was gonna be cracking because that 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.080 was one of my favorite songs out from Cube Bird 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:31.800 in the Hand, Um, I thought that was just one 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:33.400 of the most that's what that was. It was a 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.880 flip of bird Man. I just thought it was one 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:40.800 of the most brilliant records even today. Bird in the 0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:47.240 Hand was the shit man that number one. Motherfuck me. 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:51.280 Y'all got jay Z's and y'all got you know, Ken Driggs, 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:53.600 and we got the Drakes and we got there. But Man, 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.200 Cube was my nigga. Man. Nobody could fade Ice Cube 0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:02.640 man with that microphone. So, um, when I heard Bird 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:06.120 in the Hand, Man, and I just I just went 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:08.919 off on the record. It wasn't even a second thought. 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:11.000 As soon as I heard the beat, I went to 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.480 the car and I wrote the verse in the car 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:15.160 and I came back in. So you went to the 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:18.280 car wrote the verse. Yeah, Yeah, it was one of them. 1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:20.680 It was one of them type of songs that you 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:25.160 knew was gonna be significant. So I didn't just want 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.560 to stand there and just write just some dumb shit, 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:33.160 you know, just yeah man Compton and you know the hood, 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.400 and I wanted to really and I didn't even hear 1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:40.640 his verse. I just heard the beat and heard he 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:43.800 was telling me how the song was gonna go. And 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:45.960 then when he told me what he wanted me to 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.840 say after his verse went off, and you know, and 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:50.560 I was like, oh man, this is my fuck gonna 1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:53.560 be cracking. So I went to the car, wrote the verse, 1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:58.080 Dingo came back in and laid it they was going 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.240 now to be honest that I think they was gonna 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.960 use it. Uh No, I've been on a lot of 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:10.680 songs with you know dudes who it just happens like that. 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.520 It might make the project, it might not. Sometimes it 1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:18.240 just don't fit it exactly. So, and then coming from 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:23.240 you know, coming from my Nigga and them from TDE 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.640 and then coming from Aftermath and know you're dealing with 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:30.920 Dre and then knowing you dealing with you know, Punch 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:37.600 and my nigga Top Top like this motherfucker. But that 1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:40.760 concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. 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