1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton match. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Thank to La from on the California the Valley. We 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: represent that kill of county. So if you're keeping it 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: real on your side of your town, you tune into 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles the Goals. He gonna tell you how we 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: go if I line my notes will girl like Pinocchio. 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. Chronicals. 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: This is not your average show. You're now tuned into 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: the real mcain, Big James and Big Stairs from the streets. Hello, 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: we welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: download the i heeart app and subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: For my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: front screen, subscribe to the gainst the Chronicles and leave 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: a live start rating the comment you know what they do? Man, 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: another episode the Gangster Chronicles. Man, we're chilling with the 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: homie Big Steal and all the other homies in here. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Who ain't on camera, Junior the Homeboy farm being all 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: the homies and everything, So what to do? Ain't this 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: raining like a motherfucker outside there? Yeah, man, it's raining 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: and ship's been raining all fucking week. Shit raining for 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: the last two motherfucking weeks. But week in here, nice 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: warm coas. I don't like the rain this ship. I 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: know they say we need it, but I don't like 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the rain. Man. Motherfucker's drive crazy. Got a gang of accidents, 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: road slippery, you know what I'm saying. Then when you 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: got kids out there driving, you know you you extra uh, 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, cautious and shit worried about you know, the 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: kids behind the wheel show. You know, everybody out there 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: be careful. If you're on the west right now, you're 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: caught in all this rain. And that's for show. So 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: what's been the latest Monday that shit. I ain't been 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: doing shit, man, just post to try and get this 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: stuff together, you know, just just been peeping out what's 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: been going on everything? You know, like I said, we 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: had to you had to hip hop fifty shit, you know, 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: a certain getting ready to go to college this summer. Um. 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Just trying to stay busy, you know what I'm saying. It's, 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, the first of the year, trying to get 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: ship cracking. I know everybody out there hard working, trying 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: to get their ideas off the ground, you know what 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, man, we've just been trying to stay busy, man, 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: trying to stay you know, relevant for shilling, staying up 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the way of the bullshit. Especially the older you get man, 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, we start getting 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: a little older, they start wanting to retire you and 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: put you to the side and tell you it's trying 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to sit down. So, you know, just trying to stay relevant. Man. 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: It's it's hard enough on top of you know, bills 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: and trying to check money and all that shit. You know, 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: that's for the average motherfucker. You know, we are a 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: little a little fortunate to you know, have a job 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: and have shit to do. Speak of the people people 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: tuned in and shit like that. But it's just a 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: hard struggle for people, man, right now, you know what 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, for sure, without a doubt. Man. You 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: know one thing that was go ask and we was 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, Man, we was talking about like to me, 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, man, Gainst the rep kind of saved 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: the music industry to a certain extent um. I mean 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: I look at I look at music as transitions. You 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When I first got started with music, 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, there was really no gang 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: affiliation as far as music is concerned. Lot of the 65 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: music was East Coast, you know what I'm saying, So 66 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: deal with it on that aspect. But you know, we 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: started making noise on the West Coast. I'm pretty sure 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that, you know, the downfall 69 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of hip hop was gonna be probably great because you know, 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: West Coast took over as far as making music is 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: concerned around that time, from you know, the early nineties 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: to the mid nineties. You know, there's a lot of 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: West Coast artists who you know, were stepping in the 74 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: door and not just on gangster ship either. You know 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We had a lot of diversity as 76 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: far as music is concerned, but we had our time. 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'll say, you know, between ninety two and 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: ninety five ninety six, you know, West Coast artists really 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: put their steak in the foundation of hip hop. You know, 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying, not knowing what people thought of hip hop 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, you know, I still listen 82 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: to people like Llo, and I was listening to people 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: like Trial car Quest and ed Og and the Bulldogs, 84 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Gang Star. You know. But I don't know if people 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: were saying that New York was losing a little bit 86 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: of you know, because a lot of shit became about 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the dollar sign and commercialized and ship like that, whereas 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, over here on the West Coast, really we 89 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: just we were dealing with, you know, shit that we 90 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: dealt with basically is growing up in the hood or 91 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: having to deal with the you know, what was going 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: on on the West Coast as far as the gang 93 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: culture and you know, being a young black motherfucker in 94 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, having to live in places like Compton, South Central, 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: watts Long Beach. You know, we were we were stereotyped 96 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: back then, as you know, khaki suits or T shirt 97 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and cap that meant you belonged to a gang. So 98 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of oppression we had to speak on 99 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: because we didn't have a voice, so our voice became 100 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: the microphone. Yeah, exactly, man, And we will be going 101 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: through this, man, you know, over the course of the show, 102 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: other episodes and stuff, we go always go back to 103 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: this because I'm looking at nineteen ninety the albums that 104 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: came out, It was a run. Man. I would say 105 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: like probably from eighty nine to about ninety six that 106 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the greatest music ever in hip hop was being made. 107 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: That year. You had Mama said Knock you Out. That 108 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: came out nine one is a joke Publican and Me, 109 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: the Humpty Dance recipes of the Homie shot Gee, Welcome 110 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: to the Terror Doome? Can I kick? A tribe call 111 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Quest jacking for Beats Q that was off a monster album. 112 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Against the rep rock this 113 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: funky joint, poor righteous teachers. You know, a tribe call 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Quests EPMD Burn, Hollywood Burn, Oppet and ally by nature 115 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: not by nature. Tracks for him to be as g 116 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: as he was. Dog. He had the poppiest records. Dog. 117 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: His records all pop. He always had strong ass hooks 118 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: and his music. Shout out to tracks, man, some one 119 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: of them one of my people's. Man, Oh for sure 120 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: we go had to get tracks up here. You know, 121 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: you had Nahs came up with New York Straight of Mind, 122 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the Ghetto Boys, the Homies mind playing tricks on me. 123 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: It was just you know, Pete Rock and Seos movie 124 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: they reminisce over you. You know, slow down, brand Newbian 125 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, Karras Won MC's act like they don't know 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: the other side of the town. Master Eight's got five 127 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: on it. You know what I'm saying. It's like it 128 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: was a it was a diverse time with music. Like 129 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I said, everybody had, you know, critical projects. If you 130 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: asked me, I don't give a fuck how big they 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: was promoted or whatever. But around that time and era, 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, it was a good time for music because 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, hip hop was catching on. You know, the 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: executives upstairs and the and the suits and ties and 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the people signing the contracts and whatever. You know, they 136 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: started opening up a little bit more to our culture 137 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: of hip hop seeing that it was making a gang 138 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: of money around. Because look at all those releases you 139 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: just named. A lot of those were the big records, 140 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: all of them. That's that's the thing. Everything I named 141 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: off was like a monster ass record. It was just 142 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: a crazy time and hip hop. I think too, man, 143 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing you got to look 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: at it was a little bit more diversity because you 145 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: still had the brothers like Public Enemy that was talking, 146 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, pushing the pro black line, you know, giving 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: people knowledge yourself and all that you had naves to 148 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: have some big records. Shoot ninety five, what are y'all dropping? 149 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: Ninety five? I dropped? Or we come strapped at nine, 150 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: we come strapped. What's turned out to be one of 151 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: your biggest albums. That's what I'm saying. We just had 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: We just had bomb ass music then. I ain't gonna 153 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: say that the music today ain't tight, but it's just 154 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: a different area. It was more quality coming out back then. Definitely. 155 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean not to say that music is in quality today. 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just a difference of of of the 157 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: times you're on I'm saying, Um, we we were very 158 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: particular on on what went in as far as production 159 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: and making records. Um. It took not not to discredit 160 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: any producers or beat makers, you know, because they have 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: this distinction today of a producer and a beat maker, 162 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: which which I which I would? You know, I commend 163 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: that ship, you know, because there's a lot of cats 164 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: who just make beats, you know, and then there's a 165 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: lot of dudes who produce records. You know. It's a 166 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: difference between busting lyrics and making a song. With me, 167 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: I felt like at that time, you know, more song driven, 168 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, uh, what it took to 169 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: really make a song. Not to say that there aren't 170 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: songs today as far as hip hop concerned with the 171 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: new artists, Uh, there's just certain dudes who am to 172 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: make you know, good use it feel men, and there's 173 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: just rap and then there's rappers. Not to discredit them either, 174 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: but it takes a lot to make a song that 175 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: a motherfucker want to spend his hard earned money on. 176 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: We're back in My time, you know, motherfucker wanted to 177 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: spend his hard, hard earned money on. And for the 178 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: fact that you know, being able to get played on 179 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: the radio and shit, Um, for me, I just wanted 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: to stay true to the craft. So I really didn't. 181 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: I really didn't aim for radio, but it's a significant yeah, 182 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: when you're going to try to be that type of artist. 183 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, your songs always performed 184 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: good at radio because I know the one big radio 185 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: record that you did have was Mike Exam All for 186 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: the Money, All for the Money. That was a big record. 187 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: All for the Money was radio. Straight up minutes was radio. 188 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean anything could basically but be radio if you 189 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: take the fucking cuss words out like we used to do. 190 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, for real, But I know the Joe Temple eight, 191 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, the West Coast used to be back then, 192 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: used to be poop chapoom boom chap. I don't know 193 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: if you remember the era. Everything was kind of fast page, 194 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean I didn't went 195 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: into the g funk sound and stuff. Yours was always 196 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of outside everything else. You had your own thing going, 197 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: for sure. I just want to I don't know. I 198 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to create different shit, um, not coming from 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: nobody's camp. You know. Um, everything I did was you know, constructed, 200 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: as far as what I thought that I should be 201 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: rapping to, as far as who I thought uh I 202 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: was as an artist. I wanted to be very descriptive 203 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: with my shit. I wanted to tell stories, you know. 204 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be one of those braggadocious rappers. 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: You know, I miss something that I miss something that 206 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about situations that the situations 207 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: that I or I seen my niggas in, or families in, 208 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: or just growing up where I grew up at, you know, 209 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: poverty police, you know, always wanting better and dreams of better, 210 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: you know. So That's what I spoke on. So I 211 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't do that shit as far as 212 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, trying to tell a motherfucker how 213 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: hard life was for me. Now, everybody didn't go through 214 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: what I went through as a kid, and not to 215 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: say that my life was fucked up, because you asked me. 216 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: I had a good, motherfucking life as a kid. You know, 217 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: my parents got divorced, you know what I'm saying. But 218 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: moms did what she did. Did I still have a 219 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: connection with my dad somewhat, you know, not really moms 220 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: did it all. So I just I just, you know, 221 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: just growing up as a kid, I saw this. I 222 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: saw that we struggled here, we struggled there. So I 223 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: felt I want to put that in music. And then 224 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't talk to people in a 225 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: sense of trying to let them understand what I'm telling them. 226 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: And a dance record, you get me. I just I 227 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I guess banging not like everybody. 228 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, all my niggas bang, we hood niggas. Everybody 229 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: did that shit. But I just couldn't, you know, I 230 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: just couldn't see myself trying to be the person I was, 231 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: knowing where I came from and what struggles I went 232 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: through as a kid, and my mom and family and 233 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: living where we lived at in Compton. I just didn't 234 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: see no party in it. I mean, I didn't see nothing. 235 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Even when we was in the hood and flashlight was 236 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: banging and niggas was getting high and we was chilling 237 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: and having cookedouts and just hanging, niggas was still looking 238 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: over their shoulder half the time. You had to be 239 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was the terror Dome 240 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: back then. Yeah, we had good times, but it was 241 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: always alert time. So that's what my music was. My 242 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: music was like, yeah, you know, we could kick it 243 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: and low ride and smoke and funk with the girls 244 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: and all that shit, but they're gonna we still got 245 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: a car full of guns and we're riding in the 246 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: enemy territory and ship like that. So that's where my 247 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: music was. You gotta give a hat's off to which 248 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: y'all was doing back then, because you mentioned something earlier. 249 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Back then in the nineties, if you was coming out 250 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: to West you had to be quoted on almost you 251 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: had to come through either the tray or the NWA 252 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: family tree. Right, you feel what I'm seeing. Everybody. You know, 253 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: if you look at West Coast Hip Hop the daily, 254 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: that's the landscape of it. Everybody in West Coast Hip Hop, 255 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: with the exception of you, falls from that NWA family tree. 256 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: You gotta remember Q putting mac ten on, so he 257 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: came from that tree um iced tea. He put a 258 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of people, and you gotta say, dub kind of 259 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: put um iced tea, kind of put dube on ice 260 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: put dub on. So you definitely had to come in 261 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: through somebody else that was already doing a thing, because 262 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't coming through there, they wasn't trying to 263 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: hear you. Almost. I mean I had. I mean, we knew, 264 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: we knew Easy, we knew ran Um. I didn't know 265 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Q personally up until later on. I didn't know iced T. 266 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, King T was from Compton, Toddy T was 267 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: from the hood. But as far as like coming through 268 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a camp, um I started Compton's most wanted chill was 269 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: the beat box. When we started um from there, you 270 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I started writing raps. Yeah, you know, 271 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I would write raps. Chill would bust his verse, I 272 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: would bust my shit, but we did didn't have any 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: significant motherfuckers to come through. It wasn't like, you know, 274 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I was the cousin of Dre or Easy was Chills 275 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: cousin or you know. We was just two young niggas 276 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: trying to bang and music started and how we was 277 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna get in Hella, fuck it if I know, like 278 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: I said, because we didn't know anybody. But you know, 279 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: we started hanging with some niggas across the street from 280 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Chill House who was trying to get into the game. 281 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: They were some singing niggas. So from there I started 282 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: writing raps and shit. We had nowhere to do demo. 283 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: We didn't know nothing about that shit. I was just 284 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: a fan of music because I heard six in the 285 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Morning and I heard Toddy T with the Batta ram 286 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and I heard Keen T with paybacks a mother and 287 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: shit like that. So I was like, man, I don't 288 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: talk about the hood too and talk about Compton in 289 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: the streets and in the police and the gangs. But 290 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: we didn't have no hook up. Just by just by chance, 291 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: we was fucking with these two niggas across the street. 292 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: They had a motherfucking uh audition or appointment with fucking 293 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Lonzo from the Wrecking Crew. We just happened to fucking 294 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: tag along and got up there, and that's when I 295 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: first met DJ Slip and I recorded a demo tape. 296 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: We did a re demo tape like in somebody's fucking 297 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: living room, off of a keyboard and ship. We weren't 298 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: even in those studio. And I wrote this song man 299 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: like long time Ago, and me and Chill performed it, 300 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: and we played the niggas the demo, and you know, 301 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: a greedy motherfucker looking at two young niggas, you know, 302 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Compton is getting off, so nigga see dollar signs. I 303 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't see shit. All I wanted to do was put 304 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: out a fucking record. So we met a known mat 305 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Linzo that DJ Slip, and a known knew I had 306 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: something in me, so he automatically hooked me up with 307 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Slip Star. Fucking with Slip Star going and Slip had 308 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: all the shit I was looking for. Yeah, Slip had 309 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: the fucking the Fox track, he had the mic, he 310 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: had the speakers, the DJ equipment I was fantasizing about. 311 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: He had already set up, already set up, So I 312 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: just got the fucking with slip every day and the 313 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: Slip was part of La Sound Control Mob. They used 314 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: to do all the concerts. But you know, it wasn't 315 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: an NWA A hook up, or it wasn't doctor Dre 316 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: or you know, if you want to say that I 317 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: got hooked up with Lonzo and Unknown, then that's where 318 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: I came from. But we didn't come through the cube ranks. 319 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: We didn't come through the Dre ranks, the easy ranks. 320 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: We just started conference most wanted. I started writing raps 321 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: and it was it like that. So that's how we 322 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: got in, you know what I'm saying. Knome was one 323 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: of them record motherfucker's you know on the West Coast. 324 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Everybody had little labels and shit, you know what I'm saying. 325 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: So we came in through Unknown. Knome hooked us up. 326 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: He got us an independent deal. They put our shit out, 327 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, independently, and from there we went from from 328 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: Big Beat, through Capital, through Orpheus to Epic in the 329 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: rest of his history. You know, it was never a 330 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: co sign, you know what I'm saying, Like Dray didn't 331 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: call nobody was like give Ayton and the deal or e. 332 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: We didn't go through ruthless or we didn't go through 333 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: street knowledge, your lynch mob. You know, we was all 334 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: motherfucker's Yeah, because YO almost wound up on death Row ricords. Yeah, 335 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: we um. We didn't end up on death Row, but 336 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: we was at the beginning of the introduction of death Row. 337 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many people know it, but Unknown 338 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: was fucking with Shug and he knew that they was 339 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: getting ready to start some shit. Som me Unknown, Slip 340 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and Chill had a meeting one night and Unknown told 341 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: us that Dre and them was from to start a 342 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: label and that they was looking for, you know, names 343 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: for the label. And we sat up at the table 344 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: and we came up and we thought of this ship 345 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: called death Row, which was spelled d ef. They had coats, 346 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: leather coats and all this other type of ship. But 347 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: we were never gonna be signed to death Row. I 348 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: don't know as far Compter's most wanted was concerned maybe 349 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: write some songs for somebody, But I looked at it 350 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: as as as you know, being a part of the 351 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: circle shit that was getting started with death Row. Never 352 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: never did Unknown say that he was gonna go approach Dre, 353 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know what the fuck his intent was 354 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: because Unknown was a nigga behind the scenes who did shit, 355 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: you know, without our consult whatever whatever he felt like 356 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: he wanted to do, as far as CMW was concerned, 357 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: because at the time we were signed to his production company. 358 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: So but yeah, he came and told us that they 359 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: were going to form this new label and they were 360 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: calling a Death Row and it was d ef Row 361 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: instead of death like it is now. I guess they 362 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: changed it. I was good friends with Big Mike and 363 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: three two they were that was supposed to be the 364 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: first act on Death Row before Dre did his project 365 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: and Snoop and everybody else. It was three two and 366 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: Big Mike and I don't know what happened with that 367 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: situation or the falling out of it, but uh, yeah, 368 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: they could rest in peace, my nigga. Three two. Yeah, 369 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: three two's probably one of the most influential motherfuckers in 370 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: the game that people don't really know. But three two 371 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: was the one year big baby. Yeah. Three two was 372 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: very influential to a lot of shit, you know. And 373 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak on it, but if you know 374 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: three two, like I knew three two and a lot 375 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: of people you know who were close to him. He 376 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: was very influential in a few people's styles and what 377 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: developed from from you know, copying that you know different 378 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: and they ain't taking men away from them people. They 379 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: was great already anyway. But he did give people a 380 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of little shit that they know I'm saying. I mean, 381 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: because like I said, they were all integral in in 382 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: in Form and death Row. They all probably sat up 383 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: together and wrote music together, fad off for each other. 384 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: And I guess that's what you do when you're a 385 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: real crew and y'all all out for each other's best interest. 386 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You help a motherfucker. You 387 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, motherfucker's trying to come up 388 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: with hit records, man exactly. And you know, one of 389 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: the things that didn't really go down back then like 390 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: it is they I think it did go down, but 391 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't talked about as much. It's like you said, 392 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: in the course of people making records together, you can 393 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: give somebody a line or to right. Somebody may contribute 394 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: to a hook or something. You're trying to come up 395 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: with a hit record and everything, so it ain't necessarily 396 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: about but back then it wasn't a whole bunch of it. 397 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm a half a nigga, come through and write my 398 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: whole rap for me. That's why what Easy it was 399 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: such a big deal because you know, Cube was doing 400 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: all this writing. The Ram was writing form, DC was 401 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: writing form, you know what I mean. But that was 402 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: accept that. I didn't even think back and we even 403 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: focused on that ship. Did you did you ever, like, really, 404 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: when you first heard in Wa or straight out of Compton, whatever, 405 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: and when Easy was busting, should you ever sit down 406 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: and go, I know, Easy ain't writing now Hill, No, 407 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: he was just jamming. I never got into that type 408 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: of shit until it was brought to my attension about 409 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: publishing and writers and you know, you're getting money for 410 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: that ship and all of that, because before the end, 411 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: you I know, shit, you know, I was writing Chills 412 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: wraps in the beginning when we first started comptens most wanted. 413 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: But I wasn't like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to write 414 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: his ship because I'm trying to collect that publishing checking 415 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: all of that. I just I would just go home 416 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: and write out wraps for verses and Chill was my nigga, 417 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: my partner, So I'm like shit, I'm gonna take two. 418 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him too. That's I didn't look at 419 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it like, oh yeah, he writing all the songs. I 420 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: just figured like nigga, motherfucker gave me a beat, they 421 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: would send me home with a beat and tell me 422 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: go write something to it. And knowing like Chill was 423 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: my nigga and he aparted a crew, I was like, well, 424 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wrap no fucking foulk verses, So I'd 425 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: write two verses out for me, write two verses out 426 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: for him, being go. I didn't know nigga was collecting 427 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: money off of the ship and publishing, because that wasn't 428 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: money wasn't even like it. And I know it's dumb 429 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: to say, but money wasn't even the capture for me. 430 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Money wasn't even the you know, to sign on the 431 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: dotted line. For me, it was just being able to 432 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: go on the fucking studio and look at all the 433 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: equipment and see a nigga put a beat together and 434 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: then I can write a song to it. Nigga out 435 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: and payday for me. You give him saying I'm on 436 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: the block, sitting on the corner every day trying to 437 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: sell little little little dope and ship, you feel me? 438 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: And I'm getting to witness this other side of life 439 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: that I don't know. It was never no vision. I 440 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. When you come from the 441 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: hood and you whatever, people have dreams or aspect. But 442 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: like I said, Nigga one side once, it was about 443 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: gang banging and selling dope and hood rat bitches and 444 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: shit like that. There was no dreams, Nigga, I made him. 445 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I gotta be a low low. I got me a spot. 446 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: I gotta be a couple of chicken heads. How good 447 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: to fucking go you? Life is fucking great? Ship? Are 448 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: you getting to it? And the money was a little 449 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: different back then, because I remember for a soundtrack at minimum, 450 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: you would fucking around to pick up twenty twenty five 451 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: thousand that minimum just for turning me in a song. Oh, definitely, 452 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: you got shit. Niggas was getting like thirty thousand to 453 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: do samet Eys commercials and shit, my nigga, DJ pooh 454 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: you feel me, um pooh? Definitely don't. Is it lucrative 455 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: like hip hop is seen today? No, because a lot 456 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: of us, a lot of us struggled for those contracts 457 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: and struggled to be you know, motherfuckers wanted to be 458 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: them Shugs, then Birdman's, then Puffy Jermaine Dupris. But you know, 459 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: a lot of us got you know, a lot of 460 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: us got fucked. Remember this shit right here, A lot 461 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: of us got fuck coming into the business because, like 462 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: I said, as a young motherfucker, you really don't know 463 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the business. Hey, do you remember this? Oh that's what, 464 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: like I said, Saint Ice was giving out money for 465 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: niggas to do commercials. So for a struggling artists, you 466 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: might think a motherfucker making a gang of brand, you 467 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: feel me. But for a lot of struggling artists back then, 468 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: those were those were you know, extra curricular activities and 469 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: nigga could do to get that side check because they 470 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: were coming in with no hesitation, no negotiation or none 471 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: of that. Nigga, do us a commercial, Higgo twenty five 472 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: thirty ran, So you know, it was a lot of 473 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: you know, as far as how niggas make money today 474 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: from streaming and podcasting and doing a lot of other 475 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: different ships, it was it was kind of a struggle 476 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: for an artist who wasn't getting that that easy money 477 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: or that death row money or that ship like that. 478 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: Nowadays you see cats man everybody getting money. Yeah, And 479 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: as a cat that was always like kind of independent minded. 480 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I was always because I had a few deals, but 481 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I was always to do that winning got because you know, 482 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: I remember I was a rapper, but I had a 483 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: record store too, right, so I understood how distribution works. 484 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: So it never made no sense in my mind to 485 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: go give a motherfuck all this and that not new. Okay, 486 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: If I'm going to the ones stop when I'm paying 487 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: seven dollars and the nigga talked about giving me twenty cents, 488 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: it didn't make no system. I'll said, well, what the 489 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: rest of the money going to? You know what I'm saying, 490 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: what is happening? I don't think a lot of I 491 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of artists because if if if 492 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the artists from that era knew what 493 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: they knew today as far as contracts, you'd have a 494 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: gang of independent motherfucking labels around. Yeah, because yeah, because 495 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: you don't want no deal right now, do you? Hell 496 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: fucking no a nessa nigga finna give me about thirty 497 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: something million in cash me out? What's the point? Because 498 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: you can constantly as an independent. The money is better, 499 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: especially now with streaming and all the other shit you 500 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: can do. There's no way, like I said, unless a 501 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: motherfucker finna just start off in the millions and be 502 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: like here, I'm a hand you five million, but you 503 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: gotta look at it. At the end of the day, 504 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: you still gotta pay that five million back. And that's 505 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you. They loaning you five million, 506 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: then they FINDI charge you on top of the five 507 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: of what they gave you. They FINDI charge you a 508 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: gang of motherfucker shit like biggas is. Like back in 509 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: the days, niggas come out with any voices where they 510 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: charging you for having conversations on the phone. Oh dog, 511 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: And if my lawyer got on the phone and had 512 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: a conversation with the label and it went on for 513 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes, he was charging me for that shit 514 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: you getting me? Uh if the label motherfucking they seen 515 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: you on a promo tour, Oh yeah, that costs US 516 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: forty fifty thousand. And you know the fuck the part 517 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: about them loans, dog, Usually when you get a loan, 518 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: like a fuck walking to the bank. If I walking 519 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: the wheels frog and say okay, I want to get 520 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: a bank alone to buy this Rose Royce. I'm gonna 521 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: go pick the Rose roy Side. I want to drive 522 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna, you know, and they gonna get me 523 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: the loan for it. With the Rigor label, it's almost 524 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: like they spending the money up that they loaning you 525 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: and then't charging you for right because you can't tell them, 526 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: motherfucker's O, don't go spend half a million dollars on 527 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: this shit. They're gonna go, hell, yeah, we're gonna do it. 528 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: As an independent you can control that. But like you said, 529 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: as a label, no, you're gonna sign that contract. They're 530 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: gonna hand you that three fold million up front. Then 531 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna go, okay, I gotta pay back this threefold million. 532 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna go, okay, when we flew you from here 533 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: to there and there to there to there as another 534 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand when we did this. When we did that, 535 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: they just spending money. Like you said, you don't get 536 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: to control the budget. At the end of the day, 537 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: that three that three million they gave you up front 538 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: for the record and from the back end is six 539 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: You get me because all the other hidden ship that 540 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: they got to pay for promotions, and I know all 541 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: that shit is official, but still you don't get to 542 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: control that budget. So whatever they want to spend, they spend, 543 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: and they go they okay, now we're charging you back 544 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: for it, motherfucker. Be like I didn't won't know, motherfucking 545 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: this or that, and they go, it don't matter. We 546 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: saw that in your promotion. So that's what we paid for. 547 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: And another thing too, let's say you signed the aftermath. 548 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: It ain't like I think a lot of people gotten 549 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: they heard that Drey is just coming to give you 550 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: all them beats for free or to discount of rates 551 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: charging I'm talking. Yeah. So if your budget there's a 552 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: million dollars in Drake Sharks and you two fifty a track, 553 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: you might only be able to afford to have one 554 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Drade track on that motherfucker. But then how do you 555 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: control Like I said, then then how do you control that, 556 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: because then at the end of the day, they still 557 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: get to make the call on what's usable and what's not. 558 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: That's some real ship. But if you can only afford one, 559 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: got to give you a discount of something. I can 560 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: afford one of those two hundred and fifty thousand dollars tracks. 561 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: But now I gotta go to niggas who charging me 562 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a track or five hundred, and like 563 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I said, at the end of the day, those niggas 564 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: might not get approved because when you're gonna turn the 565 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: project and they can find out speaking the beat from 566 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: from from john S from down the block, who who's 567 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: just started doing beats last year, and they might not 568 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: approve his track. You know, they might be like, no, 569 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: fuck this, because that's the truth. People don't understand that 570 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: they have to approve your album before it comes up. Yeah, 571 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: unless you unless you got that pool and that power 572 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: as a regular artist today, you have no you know. 573 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: That's why a lot of mother fuckers come out independently. 574 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: That's why you got a million artists out right now 575 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: because everybody, you know, I don't have to go that route. 576 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: I can go sign up to a SoundCloud or a 577 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: tune core or whatever and put my shit out on 578 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: my own and let it go for the gust. Though 579 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: now my ship might not have the million dollars video 580 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: like DJ Kalin got, or my ship might not have 581 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: the fucking produced by DJ Premier track on it get me, 582 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: But the market is flooded right now, and that's what 583 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: artists are able to do. Like I said, but we 584 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: have no restriction on that either because let's face and 585 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that should be garbage. Now. The albumics 586 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: you and Premiere did together that they come out independent, Yeah, 587 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we push shit independent. I mean, that's the 588 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: way to go now, to push independent, especially if you're 589 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, um, I mean, that's what's best for me. 590 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's best for any other artists who've 591 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: come from my era who's still trying to make music, 592 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: or for the new artist who's down somewhere and in 593 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: his girlfriend's kitchen with the set up and he's trying 594 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to get exposed and all he can make it too 595 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: is the homies in the neighborhood and around the corner. 596 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean it takes a lot. Yeah, you know, it's 597 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: just ship. Just like football and in trying to get 598 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: to the NFL. You know what I'm saying, it's a 599 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: it's a million of us. It's a million motherfucker's going 600 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: to high school, some million motherfuckers. But there's only a 601 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: few that make it to college. It's only a few 602 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: to make it dog and out of that college. You 603 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: get me, So you gotta look at yourself for the 604 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: same level as being an artist. It's a billion of 605 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: artists out here. Man, niggas working out. You gave me. 606 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: They're working out and they kitchen right and raps George 607 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: songs you give me. And are they gonna be the starter? 608 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be the nigga ride in the bench? 609 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: You didn't ye get on the team nowadays? Now starting 610 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: at the high school level, what don't matter. Fucking you 611 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: pay that thousand fucking dollars. They finna getting your motherfucking uniform. Right, 612 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: you're on the squad. You ain't gonna never see the 613 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: field though, And you know what do eight. I'm a 614 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: loop around a little bit on some stuff because I gotta, 615 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of address this stuff. A lot of 616 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: people don't know. Whatever you want to do, whether it's 617 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: music or podcasting, the best way to get on and 618 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: to get favorable terms. This is a boy spending your 619 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: own money and doing certain shit, right, Like you know, 620 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: we got the Gangster Chronicles podcast. You got to invest 621 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: in yourself. Yeah, you gotta invest in yourself. So with 622 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know, I came up with 623 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles PODCEP. I did what nobody else around. 624 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: Glasses Malone was sitting in my living room with him. 625 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: It was about one thirty in the morning. You know, 626 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: you're just kicking me with the homie. Were sitting in 627 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: my living room and I said, nigga, I'm gonna do 628 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: a podcast. We was trying to do a podcast with Glasses. 629 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: This is way back and maybe two thousand and sixteen, 630 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: when the podcast stuff wasn't even cracking like adios now. 631 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't nowhere. It was only a few people doing 632 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: it right, So I was messing with Glasses and it 633 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: wasn't you know. He wasn't too serious about it at 634 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: the time. You know, Glasses may come, he may not 635 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: show up. You know, a lot of us rappers didn't. Really. 636 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: Podcasting was new still, so when you when you're trying 637 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: to take a nigga from from the microphone and put 638 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: it on the microphone, but in a disparate aspect, niggas 639 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: was looking at it like man podcast, Glasses thought out 640 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: lost my mind because he wanted did it with me? 641 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: Did it? Ever? So he said Steel like, what the 642 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: fuck is that ship? And you know what Glances told 643 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: me said steal I fuck with you. You my big bro. 644 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: He said, man, but therein't nobody out here. Go listen 645 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: to that ship, you know. So I said, watching sea 646 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: man watching seats gonna be the biggest thing ever. So 647 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: I had a homeboy that worked in the CBS building 648 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, you could use the studio 649 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: up there, but they charged me. I had to pay 650 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: for engineers. So when I first started the Gangster Chronicles, dog, 651 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: I think I was paying like every week though this 652 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: was all your idea, Yeah, this is all my da. 653 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: Nobody sat down with you. No partners, no homeians, none 654 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: man less we should we should we should? We should none. 655 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: The only made you call it the Gangster Chronicles. Well, 656 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: because when I initially thought of a gagster chronicles, the 657 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: chronicles something means to tell a story, right. It was 658 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: never supposed to be just about rict bloods against ship. 659 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: It was supposed that was one of my uh questions, 660 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: Like because somebody asked me that, why gangster chronicle? Yeah, 661 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: because it was supposed to encompass everything that's gangsterism, from 662 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: the mafia to even the motherfucking m the Arian brotherhood. 663 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: That's gangster ship. You know what I mean, that's their 664 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: gang gangster music, right. It was supposed to be everything 665 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 1: to kind of run around the parameters of what normal 666 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: society yells. Right, that's considered gangster. Let's considered gangster. And 667 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, so Glasses was sitting up there with me. 668 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: I had Reggie right in mind because he was one 669 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: of the dudes that came from the Death Row era, right, 670 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: I had Reggie right in mind. So I got that Reggie. 671 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: Then Glasses was like, you know what it was because 672 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: I was on the first four original episodes, right, and 673 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna move to a land at the time, 674 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: So I said, I got to get somebody else. That's 675 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: when we brought this other caddy. And I ain't gonna 676 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: say his name. I didn't want to say the other 677 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: dude's name, but to put a long story short, before 678 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: we made a dime out against the Chronicles, I was 679 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: about probably thirty grand to this motherfucker dog because this 680 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: is your pet project. Here's my pet project, baby, this 681 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: is your shit. So regardless of who you selected as 682 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: a host or not, Gangster Chronicles was your project. It 683 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: was my project and not free and I share freely 684 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: with the mother. Actually, I was probably a little bit 685 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: too free with the money, because this is how I 686 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: always looked at it. I'm gonna pay for everything, We're 687 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna split everything down the middle. I ain't know, greedy, 688 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: motherfucking you know, I get something, you're getting the piece 689 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: of it. You're getting the piece of it. You know, 690 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: we all can do good with this, right. But I 691 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: think people got the sense of getting too entitled after 692 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: a wild dog and have a tendency to run around 693 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: with the wrong people, because, as you notice, we minus 694 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: the host that used to be on the show exactly. 695 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: That's not my fault be mad to do dick you 696 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: over there sitting with because he did this shit to you, right. 697 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: I didn't come up with the question, you know, and 698 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: not not really you're a people just asked me questions, 699 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: and you know the information is what I tell people 700 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: is that you know, um, executive decisions were made, you know, 701 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: not that it was it was like a hater thing 702 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: or or like whatever. But you know, sometimes situations happen. 703 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: You know, um, is it gonna Is it gonna affect 704 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: people in a certain way? Of course? Um? Shit. When 705 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: I had a fucking contract with Epic, I thought I 706 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be signed to a fucking label forever you 707 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: get me. And then I got the phone call one 708 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: day to say, nigga, you we we're not gonna renew 709 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: your contract. M Sometimes I lost for a minute for 710 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: a second, because now I got to figure out the 711 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: next step. Yeah, but somebody else eventually came along and said, hey, 712 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: we want to fuck with you. Somebody else came along 713 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: and said we want to fuck with you. And then 714 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: eventually I just got the ship like, well, god damn. 715 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: It seems like I could be more on hands if 716 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: I started doing my own shit. So that's what I 717 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: started doing. I started putting our records independently, and here 718 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: we are today exactly. And I ain't go well too 719 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: much show on this man because I just wanted to 720 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 1: address it because people have a tendency, you know, because 721 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't go say nothing about it because, like I 722 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: said before, I didn't want to kick James off the show. Right, 723 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm not the reason he's not on the show no more. 724 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: You know what happened, there was two former co hosts 725 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: conspired against him, and they found out a lot of 726 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: information that was from his past. Now, one thing I 727 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: will say, when we initially first started to show one 728 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: of my partners. They hit me up and told me, man, dude, 729 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: it's hot. You shouldn't fuck with him because of this, 730 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: this and the third. I'm not too much big in 731 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: the rumors, and I'm a grown ass man. I don't 732 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: listen to rumors. I wouldn't ask my man itself. Hey, 733 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I got told this sex, this, this and the third 734 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: that you had this going on or no, that's people. Hey, 735 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: ill left for the loan Dog because it wasn't my thing. 736 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: And plus, it ain't like we on this motherfucker robbing 737 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: banks or doing them malicious, right, we're telling stories though 738 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about Shi having a conversation, you know what 739 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it wasn't my fault. The thing that 740 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: really cracks me up is that the god is responsible 741 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: for all this shit is happening. Is he's sitting over 742 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: there with him now doing the show. That's the person 743 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: all the animosity should be pointed to. I didn't do 744 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. I just this is a business at the 745 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, dog and anything that's impeded in 746 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: the business, because as you grow, the business gets bigger. Now, 747 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: when I was up in the CBS building, pam my 748 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: own time doing shit like this. I had a lot 749 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: more leadway to make decisions. It was all on me, 750 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: right because at one time, and even with the one 751 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: guy that left the show, you were talked about as 752 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: a post but me and you had a conversation about 753 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: Shoot taking his place, right remember, like a long time ago, 754 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: so a lot of moves have been made. You came 755 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: to me a while ago, right right like COVID, right 756 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: before COVID, and we had a conversation about you know, 757 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: doing you know, because remember I had wanted to do 758 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: my own podcast. Yeah, then we still gonna do that, 759 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: the Stas Spot. He was gonna do Stash Spot, and 760 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: then things transpired and you you know said what you'd 761 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: be willing to come, you know, co host throwing against 762 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: the chronicles. I didn't know how it would fit, you know, 763 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: knowing that you and and James already was in the mix. 764 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, I knew about Reggie, and I knew about 765 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: the other dude, you know what I'm saying. But but 766 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: it's opportunities, you know, I never looked at it as 767 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: trying to be stepping on somebody's toes or taking somebody's position, 768 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: But you know, a job is a job, man, and 769 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't like that because you wouldn't stepping on toes. 770 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: Because the funny thing about to do Reggie is he 771 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: quit the show on his own reconnaissance. He was in jail. 772 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: He was locked up, right, Reggie was only Yeah, he 773 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: was only on the show for six months, right, he 774 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: was only on the show for six months, and he 775 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: got locked up. Never had no problem but to do. 776 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Even still sent him money and whatever like that. I 777 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: sent him money until James told me to stop sending 778 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: them money. For whatever reason. They don't send him nothing else. 779 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: That was his thing, and noted them two dudes over 780 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: there together. It's funny to me, But I will say 781 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: this because we've grown as men. At the end of 782 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: the day, dogs, I don't have no animosity against him. 783 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: That wasn't a personal Again, if it was up to 784 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: me in certain situations, wouldn't happen. He'll still be sitting 785 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: over there, right. It wasn't nothing personal against him. It 786 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: wasn't any personal against him. We all grown as men 787 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: and we'd make decisions. But when we make those decisions, 788 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: we should look in the mirror as men and say 789 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do because hey, you know, 790 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't know nonsense, man, I know, yeah, I mean, 791 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: because I was like, hey, what's going on? Remember I'm 792 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: calling you like, hey, what are we doing? What are 793 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: we doing? And then it was brought to my attention 794 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: about what was transpiring. And then I was like, well, 795 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: fuck that shit. Let's just keep pushing and trying to 796 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: advocate for my man James to you know, let's forget 797 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: about the other shit. Let's just keep pushing forward. But 798 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: I guess you know, the stress of like you said, 799 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: weighing on the business, and now you have outside people 800 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: who are invested in the business who feel like certain 801 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: situations we're gonna bring or devalue the show exactly we are. 802 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: This is entertainment at the end of the day. Of course, 803 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: don't take it for nothing else. This entertainer right here. 804 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: We try to entertain with stories or our tales or 805 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: of current shit or back in the day ship from 806 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: what we've seen or what we've done learned from. But 807 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, again, it's all entertainment, you know what I mean. 808 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whether you whether you take 809 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: something from it or not, we are trying to you know, 810 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: we are trying to get your ear. We're trying to 811 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: get your ear and trying to get you to listen 812 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: to our entertainment of what we feel is our perception 813 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: on life in general, hip hop, sports, fucking shit, anything 814 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: that you might as a regular person, because that's what 815 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: we consider ourselves. And that's the thing. And I wouldn't 816 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: even go say numb bro. But after a while you 817 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: get tired of your name. It's like, you know, you 818 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: can see motherfucker's online and then I don't have this 819 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: one cat fuck me around? Fuck you still, fuck you? 820 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: You did this to James, just like you said that 821 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: he was on my ship? What he was that to say? 822 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: The fuck you? Still? Hold on? That's the hony glasses 823 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 1: right there. Hold on one second, I'm gonna punch glasses in. 824 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 1: She was at the dog hey old and I'm gonna 825 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: put you on the show real quick. Hold on, I'm 826 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: gonna put you on speaker real quick. This kind of 827 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: this kind of raggedy ladies and gentlemen, because we usually 828 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: do some shit professional, but just the homey glasses a 829 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: g I just want to ask a few questions dog 830 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: and just answer yes and no questions. Right what this 831 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: shit about. Hold don't matter what it's about. Just answering 832 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: my questions. Just answer my mother pucker questions said, I'm 833 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: just gonna ask a few questions. Dog, Hold on, I 834 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: ain't gonna slid no curveball, just answering. No, this ain't 835 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: no goofy shit. Dog? But how long was a gainst 836 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: the Chronicles thought of before it actually came to effect? 837 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, goddamn well, you made that show. Why are 838 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: you stop trying to pump shit to the public. Mante 839 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: people just entertained, Yeah for show, That's what I'm gonna do. 840 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: Then I just want you alone time. But why are 841 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: we talking about You cannot argue over the neck? You know, 842 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: goddamn what you came up with the idea? Why are 843 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: we talking about these? That's all I wanted to hear. Bro. Yeah, 844 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: but you can't plu this to nobody else, and you 845 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be trying to prove this to nobody else. Everybody 846 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: making content at the expense of a show and you 847 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: just going along with it. Don't do that shit. Everybody 848 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: can make their own fu content for real, That's what 849 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: it is. Nowadays. Everything is about content. Man. You just 850 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: had You just had a conversation with with the nigga 851 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: the other day, and the nigga told you the same shit. 852 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: You get here for real here, it's real shit. Nigga 853 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: just told you the same shit. And my nigga who 854 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: you talked to is one of the biggest niggas who 855 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: in this content would you say, Gee, I'm gonna say this. 856 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: Look when you came to meet with Gangster Chronicles and 857 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: Ship and I got the side there for a podcast 858 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: called Gagster Chronicles. At that time, you only had Reggie 859 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: right in mind. I remember that I brought you to 860 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: who my giant this is before was even on land. 861 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: This is when he just had this little piece with 862 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: the dude that was doing all of the toolproc stuff. 863 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: That dude, And I was like, Man, I knew who 864 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: this nigga was because I heard of me. My whole 865 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: life is being a figured from out the city. So 866 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: I was like, man, you should use him because I 867 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: believed him, and you should use alleys. The idea was 868 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: already there, It was already common inly doub But you 869 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: cannot win these debates own mind, because they're not really 870 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: meant to be winning things. You can't win a lose. 871 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: They not meant to be that, They meant to capture 872 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: the public's imagination. This shit sit me. You know, God, 873 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: there will This ain't the first time that this has happening. 874 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 1: This shit normal, I would just not even get involved 875 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: in it. It don't make no fucking sense. But just 876 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: leave that ship alone. You're gonna make another This is 877 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: another show. This showed y'all down right now is a 878 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: fucking hit. That's showth gonna be huge, way bigger. So 879 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: when it's every time you try to debate your brilliance 880 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: for other people, man, it's gonna be a problem because 881 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,959 Speaker 1: the Internet don't have like normal sense. They're just gonna 882 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: make their own finger n Hey, I'll call you back, bro. 883 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you back, bro. And that was glass 884 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: of Malone. You don't't have to prove shit nowadays, and 885 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: that's why this a start content nowadays. It don't give 886 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: a fuck whether the shit is true or not all 887 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: all all we need to do is get motherfuckers to 888 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: start listening to some outland this ship, and it's gonna 889 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: go because you know what I could do right now, man, 890 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: I can go on this motherfucker and say whatever I 891 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: want to say and half the motherfucker's out there, go 892 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 1: believe it, just because they want to take a side. 893 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: Like I had this dude, Andy didn't give a fuck. 894 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: Eight I'm I'm sitting at home and my motherfucking million 895 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: dollar crib, my million dollar condo, My nigga, you're sitting 896 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: at home and yo, shit, feeling good, right, you know 897 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: when showing yourself writing joy in life, and you gotta 898 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: brotherfucker telling you fuck you because he feels like you 899 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: don't done something wrong. But one of his heroes I 900 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: don't know. And you don't know this motherfucker from them 901 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: day or not. You don't know him from a cannon. 902 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: Just people who feel like that. Man, I tell people 903 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: every day, I'm not gonna please them all. And sometimes, 904 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: like I said, motherfucker, you could put out a song 905 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: and it could be a nigga you ain't never seen 906 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: in your life. He had just come on and be like, man, 907 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: fuck you, and it's all the it's all just to 908 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: start some shit. Now. You know what that motherfucker gonna do. 909 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: He gonna take that shit, He's gonna post it on 910 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: this page and go look, I'm going back and forth 911 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: with the MCA. Yeah for realness, and that's gonna motherfucker 912 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 1: told me and I laugh because I was in the bathroom. 913 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: Actually I laughed. I see who is this? Motherfucker? Fuck 914 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: you Still? I see it? Damn. I might call this 915 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: episode that fuck you big Still. Yeah. This episode was 916 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: called fuck you be Still fuck Still day. Yeah. Actually, 917 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: get some T shirts made if y'all want to get them. Motherfucker's. 918 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 1: But like Glasses just said, why why throw gas on fire? 919 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean because basically you can let the ship burn 920 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: itself out. You give me. We've all had to deal 921 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: with some type of ship since this internet ship, this 922 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: podcasting shit, whatever, you get me. I had to go 923 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 1: through the ship. You're going through the ship. James had 924 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: to go through the ship. Reggie had to go through 925 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: the ship. Who ain't went through some ship? You get me. 926 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 1: As far as people not disagreeing with what's your point 927 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: of view is, it's just what fucking happens. But what 928 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to do and we have to 929 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: do is grown men and black men and motherfuckers who 930 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: can avoid controversy because that's what it is. Like a 931 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: nigga just said, it's off of content. We're gonna talk talk, talk, 932 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: and talk and get motherfucker's to tune in. But at 933 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what do you what's the 934 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: what's the end game, what's the end result at the 935 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: end of the day, what's the end game? You know what? Man, 936 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: all you're doing is providing content for another motherfucker to 937 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: creator go back and forth, because this is not what 938 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: makes it right. Yeah, that's gonna make some bread, right, 939 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: That's that's what That's what it's all for the end 940 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: of the day. Motherfuckers want to get paid. So this 941 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: ain't the only way I get paid. It ain't the 942 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: only thing I'll do either. You know, I got other 943 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: forms of trying of getting paid. You're getting me, and 944 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: that's what I've been doing all my life. You go 945 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: up next level, the next level. So not to disrespect nobody, 946 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: because like I said, I ain't got beef with a motherfucker, 947 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: and I don't have beef with somebody over a podcast. Damn. 948 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, nothing's personal, especially nothing person mostly when I've 949 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: given you more than on paper which you're supposed to get. 950 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: I ain't inclined. Like I said, I'm the newcomer, and 951 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: I know my position and I know what it is. 952 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: But like I said, man, you know, at the end 953 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: of the day, it is what it is. It's not personal. 954 00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: Niggas don't have a problem with nothing as far as 955 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: who you are as a man, who motherfuckers are as 956 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: a man. Shit is business. If you've got a personal 957 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: motherfucking problem with some then maybe that needs to be 958 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: worked out the issues of whatever that shit is. But 959 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: shit is business. At the fucking end of the day. 960 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: You get me, just like I can get canceled tomorrow. 961 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: You get me and then, And that's the thing. Who 962 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: the fuck want to go through that. It's like, I'm 963 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: not sitting there pick doing this show by myself, and 964 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: they your celebrity is twenty times bigger than mine could 965 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: ever be. And I don't even like that. I don't 966 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: even like looking at myself as a celebrity. I like 967 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 1: to look at myself as a regular nigga. I've done records, 968 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: I've done some movies, you know, I've done some video 969 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: games and podcasting. Now I just look at it as 970 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: as as a next transition. I can't wrap forever, right, 971 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: like y'all saying, we we we we all diggers. We 972 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: can't be raptored forever y'all want us to give up 973 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: the fucking mic right now, so we have to. We 974 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: have to transition. You get me. And it's nothing like 975 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: I said, none of this shit is personal because this 976 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: ain't got shit to do with my kids, right, It 977 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: ain't got shit to do with with with my family 978 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: being you know, hurt or whatever. My fucker I've been hitting. 979 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: Motherfucker's been talking shit about me for a long ass time, 980 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: and records and everything, and they go talk shit about 981 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker's forever. Because at the end of the day, dog, 982 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: that's what it is. All of this shit is meant 983 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: to a list of the conversation. That's all. It is 984 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: a list of the conversation. You know what I mean. 985 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: Whatever we say, everybody ain't gonna agree with it. And 986 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: my whole thing is this, I'm not trying to be 987 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: the most popular fucking the world. If motherfucker out there 988 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: don't care care for me, whatever, that's your prerogative. Some 989 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: motherfucker's want to be that and some people don't. Some 990 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: of us just want to sit in a comfortable seat. 991 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: And you know, you sit at the table and a 992 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: comfortable seat. I ain't trying to ask for no more 993 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: no less, give me what the fuck I deserve and 994 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: that's it. But I'm not gonna force you to like 995 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: my shit. It's like, can't I can't force the motherfucker 996 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: to buy my record. You get me. But I'm not 997 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna tell a motherfucker. Oh well, so what you know 998 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just keep buying my shit, even if 999 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 1: you don't like it. You get me. Just keep buying 1000 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: my shit even if you don't like it. Fuck it. 1001 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: Just just just you know, man, you can support me 1002 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: in a better way. Man, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1003 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: let's get let me go go back to the music 1004 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: for a little bigcause I didn't even mean for that 1005 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: to go for as long as it did. But I 1006 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: want to ask you one more question for we skate 1007 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 1: about this motherfucker right you in Compton, motherfucking California, Right 1008 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: in Compton, California. Man, you haven't done all this legend 1009 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: debby gangster Ship. One of my homeboys hits you up 1010 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: to jump on this record, and this motherfucker winds up 1011 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: being one of the biggest recording artists in the world. 1012 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 1: Shut up to Little Homie KP. I loved at Little 1013 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: Nigga man, he ain't a little nigga, no more kinder 1014 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: growing up on me now. But I don't know this 1015 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: since he was sixteen man, you know, always been incredible 1016 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: little dude. How you wind up on that on such 1017 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: a monumental West Coast trunk check though, it was kind 1018 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: of just befitting, you know what I mean? You know shit, 1019 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: you know the Compton GUIDs were lined up. I guess 1020 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: you know. Um, I want to first say just you know, 1021 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: from from the work that I've done as far as 1022 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: uplifting Compton, representing Compton, whether you thought it was a 1023 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: good song or bad song, I've always my whole career 1024 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: have been invested into glorifying the city of Compton. Uh. 1025 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: It gave me my start. It's where I you know, 1026 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: got all my research from, you know, Um, It's where 1027 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: I got to see live firsthand, you know, growing up 1028 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: in the hood. So after that, UM, I don't know. 1029 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: I guess they were sitting up talking, you know, Kay 1030 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,919 Speaker 1: Punch and all the homies, you know, and I guess 1031 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: when they were getting ready to put the record together, 1032 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: they were like, you know, who do you think would 1033 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: fit this record? You cue that. I don't know if 1034 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: they want to keep it authentic Compton, because there were 1035 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: a few choices because from what I heard, you was 1036 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: only supposed to be doing some talking, and you messed 1037 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: around a buff the whole verse. Are you supposed to 1038 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: do nothing? No talking but maybe an eight bar verse 1039 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: or something like that. I got to the studio, you know, 1040 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: Kendrick had already you know, kind of lined me up 1041 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: for you know, and that's something about him as far 1042 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: as you know. Usually when I go in the studio niggas, 1043 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the concept what we're talking about? Niggas 1044 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: is like, man, just do you And so he was like, 1045 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to 1046 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: do this. He let me listen to, you know, a 1047 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a hooker, and he was telling me 1048 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: about what he was thinking. He was telling me about 1049 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: certain shit he wanted me to say, and I'm like, oh, this, 1050 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: my nigga got direction. He already. Yeah, he's a little 1051 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: brilliant dude. Man, he's a brilliant motherfucker. So when I 1052 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: got there and we talked and I heard the beat, 1053 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: I already knew it was gonna be cracking because that 1054 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite songs out from Cube Bird 1055 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: in the Hand, Um, I thought that was just one 1056 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: of the most that's what that was. It was a 1057 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: flip of bird Man. I just thought it was one 1058 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: of the most brilliant records even today. Bird in the 1059 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: Hand was the shit man that number one. Motherfuck me. 1060 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: Y'all got jay Z's and y'all got you know, Ken Driggs, 1061 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: and we got the Drakes and we got there. But Man, 1062 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: Cube was my nigga. Man. Nobody could fade Ice Cube 1063 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: man with that microphone. So, um, when I heard Bird 1064 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: in the Hand, Man, and I just I just went 1065 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 1: off on the record. It wasn't even a second thought. 1066 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the beat, I went to 1067 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: the car and I wrote the verse in the car 1068 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and I came back in. So you went to the 1069 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: car wrote the verse. Yeah, Yeah, it was one of them. 1070 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: It was one of them type of songs that you 1071 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: knew was gonna be significant. So I didn't just want 1072 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to stand there and just write just some dumb shit, 1073 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, just yeah man Compton and you know the hood, 1074 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: and I wanted to really and I didn't even hear 1075 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: his verse. I just heard the beat and heard he 1076 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: was telling me how the song was gonna go. And 1077 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: then when he told me what he wanted me to 1078 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: say after his verse went off, and you know, and 1079 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is my fuck gonna 1080 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: be cracking. So I went to the car, wrote the verse, 1081 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Dingo came back in and laid it they was going 1082 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: now to be honest that I think they was gonna 1083 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: use it. Uh No, I've been on a lot of 1084 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: songs with you know dudes who it just happens like that. 1085 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: It might make the project, it might not. Sometimes it 1086 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: just don't fit it exactly. So, and then coming from 1087 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, coming from my Nigga and them from TDE 1088 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: and then coming from Aftermath and know you're dealing with 1089 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Dre and then knowing you dealing with you know, Punch 1090 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: and my nigga Top Top like this motherfucker. But that 1091 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure 1092 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: to download the iHeart app and subscribe to The Gangster 1093 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast For Apple users, find a purple mica on 1094 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave 1095 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: a comment and raiding executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles 1096 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: podcast and Norman Steeve, James McDonald Aaron mc tyler, our 1097 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: visual media directors Brian White and audio editors Taylor Hayes. 1098 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronic the production of iHeartMedia Network and The 1099 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network. 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