1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Uh, so, thank you JB. Man, you know you're my guy. 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: I called you, I don't know randomly last minute. I 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: was like, I need you on here because I need 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: to know about that moment with JB. And uh, thank 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: you for being here, brother, oh Man, thank. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: You for having me. Man, you already know what it is. Man, 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: this is uh. You know, I like, I like talking 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: about the journal. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, well, well, a lot of people don't hear it. 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, people like you and myself 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: were asked the general questions. You know. I'm trying to 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: get a little deeper into it. I see you on 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: a huge billboards now. Of course you've been on many 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: seasons of uh, you know, Curb and Husband's Hollywood or 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: you know your own shows, you know, and I've been 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: on that one. I believe I had the dreaming that 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: show with you, and so many other things on me. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Voice isn't veriss things. 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: I don't. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you know a lot of people. I'd 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: be very honest, I know a lot of people who 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: are in the comedy world. My mother wanted to see 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Kat Williams, and I love Kat Williams, and randomly Tommy 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: Davison came out on stage and I was like, oh man, 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: he's one of my favorites, you know. Yeah, and what's 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: the name was there? What's the name who? Mister Cooper, 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Mark Curry, Mark Curry right. 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: Linnell? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: It was amazing. And I you know, season two, I sat, uh, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Jeff fox really came onto the show to help Mark 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Barnett shar Tank was suffering, you know, with Jeff Worthy 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: did Jeff Foxford did like smarter than a whatever, greater 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: and we needed some We needed some We needed some heat. 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: We needed some heat. Jeff Foxford then you had to 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, he had he had Middle America and he 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: sat there and said something to me that there's no 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: stranger to you. He said, damn. You know Michael Jackson 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: at the time, Michael Jackson was a live he said, 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, I think he was a love. He said, 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Madonna can do that damn song a 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: thousand times. I can't do a joke a thousand times. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, everybody that heard that song, they 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: heard it prior, so they're coming. They're ready to rock 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: out to beat it or material girl. I got to 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: earn every goddamn joke, every joke, and have they heard 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: it before I'm done? All right? I don't think a 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: job is harder. They say public speaking is hard, and 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think a job is harder than 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: getting up there to a whole bunch of strangers who 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: will interpret something you're saying different each person, and being 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: the last forefront of honesty to make fun of ourselves. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: And you get up on stage, you make people forget 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: about life and politics and all this even though you're 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: talking about it. We take a minute to laugh at 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: ourselves and you earn every single bit of it. How 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: do you do that for thirty forty Yeah, I'm gonna 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: get into that right now. Man, Were you a class clown? 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: You know what? 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: I was a hallway clown, man, I you know, I 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 3: was a hallway clown, meaning you know, I was a 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: good student, you know, three point zero student, you know, 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: art major, engineering, drafting major, double major in high school. 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: So I was a hallway clown man, meaning that in 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: between classes it was like it was like the greatest 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: time of our lives. Man, I had like a I've 66 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: been just blessed with you know, you know, I grew 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: up in the projects marther in New York. 68 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: But I was blessed with. 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: Meeting amazing friends, you know, friends who were funny as me, 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: but would never get on stage. They weren't that kind 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: of funny, but they were hilarious. So for me, I 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: was a hallway clown man, straight up all way clown. 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: You know. 74 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: It took, and I've clowned so hard, you know, with 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: my friends. One time I almost got left back, almost 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: got up back. In eighth grade, we clowned so much 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: that and we were in mar High We were the 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: last eighth graders because they had to repair the eighth 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: grade school and they put the eighth graders in the 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: high school with the high schools, so we had a 81 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: little wing in the high school if the high school 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: where they had the eighth graders at the rest of 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: the school was ninety nine to twelve. 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: And man, we were like animal house. It was crazy 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: over there. And I clown so much that I literally 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: I had all these in an F. If I had 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: one more f I would have been sitting back. 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm already in high school and I would have been 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: sent back to the eighth grade that they just fixed. 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: You know, all created that a bit sitting back to 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: the eighth grade school that they were fixing that. 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: They took me in school, they were finished fixing it. 93 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: But I'm going to move back into the eighth grade 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: school that they were fixing. 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: Crazy. But I got out of that and that shocked me. 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: That that shook me up a little bit, man, And 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: I learned how to control by hallway clownness, you know, 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: and I reeled it in. I real did. 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I see most of the comedians I know, 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: or even the ones that I've seen, you know, in 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: the hood that we grew up with, and maybe they 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't have as successful level career, I mean very few 103 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: having successful career as you. They were the kind of 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: person that just couldn't help it. I mean they would 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: just be in class like and you know, it'd be 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: a small dude and the big bully do something and 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: the small dude just be like, you can't help it. 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: He know he about to get his ass well, but 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: he just can't help it. So being a being that 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: is crazy. Now, now let's talk about the first time, 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the first time you realize that moment, and I'm talking 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: about the first time you tried it, and I'm talking 113 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: about the first time you realize that you're gonna take 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: a real shot at it, or you realize that you're 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: never going back. 116 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna give you two moments. I'm gonna 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: give you my moments. At Open State University. You know, 118 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: I met a whole new group of friends. You know, 119 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: I still have my mom vern crew, I still hang 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: up the SAE. I'm still have the same friends from 121 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: eighth grade, seventh grade, I still have the same friends, 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: and some of my friends also from fifth grade. I 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: still have the same friends. Man. So when I went 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: to college and most university, it's funny us to growing. 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: Up public speaking because I took a public speaking class, 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: you know, and I remember I did a something about art. 127 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: And men that great dear standing in front of that 128 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: whole class. 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: Really like kicked in this public speaking thing, you know, 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: learning how to put it in your own put your 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: own personality into it, which calmed me that you. 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: You don't you don't get as nervous when you just 133 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: being yourself. It's when you don't trust yourself. 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be robotic and you're not fluid with it, 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: that makes it a mess. When I met those those friends, 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: when I took that that published picking class, and then 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: I got into his his what turned the corner park 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: My friends, my new friends off from Jersey, you know, 139 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: one from out vernon the resting Jersey. 140 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: It dared me to get into this uh uh a 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: bachelor bachelor bachelorette on campus uh contests at the student 142 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: Union building, and I was one of the three bachelors 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: and it was a you know, a beautiful girl she picked, 144 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: you know, she would pick one of us for a date. 145 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: And when I tell you, my friend said, I day, 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: I dare to do it. I said, man, don't damn 147 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: you man, you know I'll do it. He dared me 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: to go up there and do it. So I became 149 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: one of the bachelor's on stage and made every answer 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I gave was ripping, ripping the audience. 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Man, they started stomping the feet, throwing stuff on stage 152 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: and started going crazy. Every answer I gave was killing it. 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something after I did that. 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: You know, having already been Richard Pryor fan, Eddie Murphy fan, 155 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: you know Bill Coffee fan, Red Fox fan, you know, 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: George Calling fan, big fan of stand up comedy already, 157 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: when I got on that stage and I was killing 158 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: like that with no rich material. Off the top of 159 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: my head, I said, Yo, I think I can do this. 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: But I always wanted to be a comedian. But also, 161 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I was an artist, so I 162 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: had my little art thing going on. 163 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something here in that crowd, and 164 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: that's to a union building, rocking like that. The girl 165 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: ended up picking me, right, But I'm gonna telling something. 166 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: I never even took the girl out. 167 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: Yo, Damn. I was the man on campus. I was 168 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: the man for months. All they talked about. 169 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: Was how I ripped it at the student union building, 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: and every answer I gave that she was asking what's 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: killing it? And I never we never even went out. 172 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: You know what, I figured, you know what, she picked me, 173 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: But she picked me. I didn't pick up. So what's 174 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: supposed to happen? You're telling me, am I supposed to 175 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: chase her around campus for that day? Or is she 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: supposed to take Hey, I picked you? 177 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: Ready to go out? What? What? What do you think. 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: She's supposed say? 179 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: I picked you? 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: No? No, no, you're supposed to be yeah, you used 181 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: to be sweating, now you know you're supposed to be excited. 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But am I supposed to ask her? Am 183 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: I supposed to say, hey, you picked me? 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: We ready to go out? Or am I supposed to wait? 185 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Because she picked me? She's a bacherette, I'm the bachelor. 186 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: She picked me out of three other guys. To the guys, 187 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: what's supposed to happen here? To pick you? 188 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Ready to go? She's supposed to say, read? But but 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: it does never happened anyway. It's not that I didn't care, 190 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: but I was the man like care this. 191 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: Man for three months. So that rate there, that turn 192 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: rate there got me. 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: You know, understanding that I drive my own vehicle, you 194 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: drive your vehicle in my vehicle that I'm driving, I 195 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: know how to drive. 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: But I think that you know, there's a I've been 197 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: you know, you and I have been on stages for years, 198 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: and it took me a long It didn't take me 199 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: a long time because I was old enough to read 200 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: books on it. You were you were at that time, 201 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: like twenty yeah, twenty years old. Right, Yeah, you're taking 202 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: a public speaking class and this and and you know 203 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize, you know, the information 204 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: that you're going to share on the stage. Everybody has it, 205 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: but people are listening and they want to hear your perspective, 206 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: your experience from it. And you understood that at a 207 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: very young age you would transition that to you know 208 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: obviously that that that moment. Why were you confident enough? 209 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Because I think even today, when people are speaking or 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: wanting to say something, they're so busy trying to say, Man, 211 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a I'm not a professor, I'm 212 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: not a i'm not a millionaire, I'm not of this, 213 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and that some young kid out there like you're just 214 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: You're just you're accepting who you are. What gave you 215 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: that confidence to feel like that? 216 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: I think what I think is you're humbold by your existence. 217 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: You're humble by your beginnings. You know, Like I said, man, 218 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: I grew up with a private sm We ain't have much, 219 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? We ain't have much? Man, 220 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: You know we we you know, we got it. 221 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: And and I'm telling you, man, I lost a lot 222 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: of friends growing up. I lost a lot of friends 223 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: before they even go out of high school. So it's 224 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: like this, Man, if you can find a way two. 225 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: Live, if you can find a way to live and 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: find a way to navigate through it, through all that 227 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: stuff and see and see what it is. I'm not 228 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: gonna knock it because it may be who I am, 229 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: So I can just say that I found a way 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: to navigate through all that, Through all the troubles and things, 231 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: I've seen. You know, I see throw. 232 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Them off the roof. 233 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: I've seen a little bit of everything. I see people shot, 234 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: I've seen people throw off a building. You know, it's 235 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: New York, man, this is New York City. 236 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: I've hung in all the clubs, man, David, I have 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: ran out of probably fifty clubs. Man. 238 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Lets you, that's how we started knowing each other. I 239 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: had no you in that industry, hanging in the club 240 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: when I first out of seeing you. 241 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: Look all the joints, rooftop Tunnel, Bentley's, Red Parent, RP. 242 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: You name it. 243 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: You named any club I have hung out in it 244 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: In New York City, Man, the Funhouse. 245 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: Don't give me. Don't get me going too far back. 246 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: The Funhouse, man, I have seen. 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Everybody, every hip hop artist in their humble beginnings, everybody. 248 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: I usually go to Lincoln Projects because my buddy used 249 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: his cousin was doing security for Douggy Fresh Back in 250 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: the days, we used to go to see basement parties 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: with Masterdon and Barry Beet battling on the crossbander and 252 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: up and down. Man, I seen testing. I mean I 253 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: have seen you. Name any hip hop moment, I know it. 254 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: I was dead, I was dead, damn it. I'm telling 255 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: you all these things are a part of you gotta 256 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: see it. 257 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: You gotta see it before your. 258 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: Eyes to understand that anything is possible, and that's a 259 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: part of your That's a part of everything. 260 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: Your experiences are always a part of your journey, man, 261 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: and being a part of. 262 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: The exception of hip hop was definitely definitely something that 263 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: inspired me. Man, and we as comedians, we gotta be 264 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: inspired by everything, music, life, birds, anybody, anything, everything. We 265 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: gotta know how to talk about everything, So we gotta 266 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 3: be inspired by everything. 267 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: We want to see how we live. 268 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: What inspired you after that to hit the road, because 269 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: what did you have of me? The Internet wasn't out, 270 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: so you didn't you didn't pick up material from you 271 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: know that you've just seen floating around. Of course, you 272 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: can go and look at books or maybe older jokes 273 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: by Rudy ray Moore or whatever the case is. What 274 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: inspired you and what was that moment? Did you first 275 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: hit the stage? How did you go? Did you do Caroline? Like? 276 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Who? 277 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Where was the first one you said? You know after 278 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: this I'm cool? Did you investigate how to do it? 279 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: Did you just say, yo, I'm gonna go downtown. You 280 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: go to a local ball what? What was that thing 281 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: you did? 282 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: Some of My best material is material that wasn't even 283 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: on stage. It was just me being silly with my friends. No, 284 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: we used to do some of the funniest stuff, man, 285 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: and it would never make to It was stuff that 286 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: couldn't make it to the stage because it's just stuff 287 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: you are, you know, improvising. 288 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: In the moment. It's spontaneous stuff, you know. So for me, 289 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: it was this. You know, when I when I ran 290 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: out of money and offa state university, I ran, I 291 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: ran out of money. I said, i'mna go home, get 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: a job. 293 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm work and save some money and come back and 294 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: finish up my last year at North of State University. 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: So I went. 296 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: Home and I think that me being on that stage, man, 297 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: it really stuck with me. 298 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: When I got home. You know, the first thing I 299 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: did was, Man, I just went downtown. 300 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: I heard about this comedy club called the Uptown comedy 301 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: club in Paul. 302 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: It was on one was it, uh one, twenty fifth 303 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: and fifth Avenue, Yeah, fifth and fifth. 304 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Man, when I tell you, I went down to that 305 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: comedy club, and let me tell you, I was blown away. 306 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: It was packed with people. The lines were around the 307 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: block to get upstairs to this comedy club. 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Everybody used to come through there. Man, I'm talking about 309 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: all the celebrities at that time were comped it Uptown 310 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: Comedy Club. I'm gonna tell you it was the National 311 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Black Theater in Paul. 312 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: But on that night, on every Sunday, it stand up night, 313 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: and man, when I tell you, everybody was to be there. Man, 314 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: you name him, they were all there. And that's why 315 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: I started. I remember I went there. I stood in 316 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: the back of the room. 317 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: It was packed. 318 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: Those seats were aveilable and it was seated across. It 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: wasn't even like idiots, like like cocktail tables. 320 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: It was just like full all chairs lined up row 321 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: row road rode all the way to the back of 322 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: the room. You know what I mean. 323 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: You didn't even sometime I would sit there like how 324 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: would I get the hell out of here if something happened. 325 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: I was looking around like, yeah, yeah, it's thick. 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: It was that, you know how you know how it was, man, 327 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: You just wanted to be in the building. It was hot, 328 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: no air conditioning. 329 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: But maybe when I tell you, it was the most 330 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: amazing experience, man, that got me. 331 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: You know. 332 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: I remember I was there and my friend Rob Stampleton, 333 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: he was on stage and man, I said, man and 334 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: I met. That's the night I met my friend Rob 335 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: Stapleton and I met every other comedians. Man, tell you, 336 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: that was the most amazing experience man, to see something 337 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: that was ours and this was our stage, our our platform. 338 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: But this is early. This is before Depth Jail, before 339 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: b a T, before all these shows where we got 340 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: a chance to show who we were. 341 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: Before you know, even a hollow had comedy, but not 342 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: like this. This was This was raw, straight up people 343 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: in Harlem, Brooklyn, Bronx everywhere would come to this comedy club. 344 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: Stead on the line and was saying we were had 345 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 3: out free passes to get up in there. 346 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: We just wanted to captivating audience. 347 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: You know. 348 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: It was the most amazing thing ever. And that's where 349 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: I hold my skills. That's why I got on that movie. 350 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: We had a workshop on on Mondays, so we would 351 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: have a show on Monday, a workshop on Monday, the 352 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: show Sunday workshop on Monday, and this was this was 353 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: an amazing part about it. 354 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: This is what made it. Everybody great. Everybody had their 355 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: own style, everybody had their own delivery, everybody had their 356 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: own character on stage. And it made him and really 357 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: the Brown brothers, Andre and Kevin Brown, they they were 358 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: smart in creating shows every Sunday that were original and different. 359 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: You could not come to. 360 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: That place three weeks in row and see the same 361 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: stuff because they forced our hand to continue to write 362 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: and find out who we were as characters. And we 363 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: written and we wrote our jokes that fit our character. 364 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: I was very physical, so Michael jokes were all physical jokes. 365 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: I would fall on. 366 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: The ground and do crazy stuff. You know, take the 367 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: microphone stand and make something out of it. Took the 368 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: curtain to make something out of it. I would take 369 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: the chair. I would do twenty things with a chair. 370 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: I mean, just talk you're talking about, I mean, this 371 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: was this is like the most to me. I'm comedy 372 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: Clubs should have had a documentary done too, because it 373 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: was really the inception of the black comedy at that time. 374 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't heard rumours that they were supposed to. 375 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure it's true or not, but I 376 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: heard things like death Jam came down to see to 377 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: work with them, you know, before Def Comedy Jam. 378 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: So all this was before this is when everybody's on 379 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: the way up. I remember, I remember we were. I 380 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: remember we were backstage one time. What you think of 381 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: TV back there watching Martin. 382 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: I remember all this stuff that we saw us growing 383 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: as comedians, and this is all. This is no social media, 384 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: this is all just streets. 385 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: Streets knew about it, and people were lined up around 386 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: the block and knew better. 387 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: How cold it was, it didn't matter. It was like 388 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: the greatest experience. That's my hombo beginnings at the Uptown 389 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: Comedy Club. 390 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: And then being in New York. 391 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: You know. 392 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: After that, I did what I did DUF Comedy Jam 393 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: first season, Duff Comedy Jams. Martin posted first season second taping, 394 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: So I was blessed to be able to do that. 395 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: I did my OW edition at Your Petherpet Lounge in Orange, 396 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: New Jersey. And I'm gonna tell you something. That club 397 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 3: didn't play. It did not play around. You go up 398 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: and then you your ass is about. 399 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: To get handed to you if you don't bring you 400 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: what you supposed to bring on that stage. 401 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: And to have an audition for def comedy jam there, 402 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: that's crazy. People were going down the flames. Man, it 403 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: was crazy up in there. But it was but if 404 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: you were able to capture the moment and let them 405 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: see you who you are in your style. Man, when 406 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: you hit it, it's like when you hit it, you 407 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: hit it like you hit it. I remember I went 408 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: like next to last or something like that. Twenty five 409 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: dudes went on before me. 410 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: But I found a way to to take the energy 411 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: that was created in the room already and use it 412 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: to my vam use it to my vam use it 413 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: to my fan. 414 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden, you go from that date 415 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: or that that audition, you know whatever, the Bachetorb being 416 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: eighty four all the way through Uptown Comedy Club airing 417 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: now in the blink of an eye for the most time, 418 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: but it felt like probably forever. You probably didn't you 419 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't go back to school, I'm assuming six years later 420 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: and now you're airing on TVs nineteen ninety two. I 421 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: just looked it up. The hip hop songs in nineteen 422 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: ninety two were oh, oh, we got one from your 423 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: town too, But we gotta jump around House of Pain. 424 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: We jumped criss crossed, but we got Pete Rock, cl Smooth, 425 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: you know Mount Burn's finest, right, we got they want 426 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: Affects dos Effects? What New York was on fire at 427 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that time. It was it was the renaissance. It was 428 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: the time where where we weren't you know, Spike Lee, 429 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Maddie Richard already made it talk in them. They were 430 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: starting to do this. You got soare us? You got 431 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: you got? You know, it's feeling good. New York rap 432 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: is great, Biggie's starting to come out, or we feel 433 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: a lot of energy out there. Can you name a 434 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: song or something like that? I mean, you know we 435 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: had Do you remember any song that you really, you know, 436 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: loved at that moment when you were driving by, you 437 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: were saying, man, I'm on TV now, And I'm not 438 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: sure if you were like, damn, now, I really gotta 439 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: work or you were like, oh, you. 440 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Gotta realize one thing. Yeah, you got that one thing. 441 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: I grew up in Mount Vernon, New York, right, you 442 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: know who I grew up with Pete Rock, sal Smooth, 443 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: heavy ding, the Boys, right, I'll be sure, Paul, Yeah, 444 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: ready to do all right? 445 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Next door to us Grand Pooper and Masters Masters of 446 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 2: Ceremony later came later when I was growing up. 447 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm talking about who I'm really who I really grew 448 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: up with. Now, Yufis was right right there, but I 449 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: didn't know xing them back then. But I don't even 450 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: know if that was even I don't know if he 451 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: was even known yet. 452 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying the element of all the people 453 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean because all yeah, yeah, going back. 454 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: To like early early, I'm going back to when when 455 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: when Head and Salt Pepper. 456 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm going back back, back, back back. I'm talking about. 457 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: Look, you talking to a dude who used to carry 458 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: record crates for his cousin, who used to battle against 459 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: heavy d in the boys. You're talking about a kid 460 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: that used to go to the Bronx for block parties 461 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: in neighborhoods and we didn't even know and we had 462 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: to be like contend we were from there, be who 463 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 3: we didn't get beat up? 464 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: You talking about it, dude, You I was like man 465 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: spirit guard man talking the louder. 466 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: I was one of the guests who put his lead 467 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: jeans between the mattress to make sure they were flat 468 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: a friend of the stars, to cuting between the matches, 469 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: to make sure that they would they would have the 470 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: best crease ever. 471 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: And wait to go downtown and go to that concert. 472 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: Man, you're talking about man, Look, you're talking about somebody 473 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: who's been to almost a few name any. 474 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: Hip hop moment. I was there. We are inspired by everything, 475 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: and this is early. I played football with our you know, 476 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: I've been to every man. 477 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: I was almost every party that he did in mart 478 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: vernon people. I see us smooth hanging out with those guys, 479 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: and I'm all forgetting people because we all grew up 480 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: in the boys and girls stuff. We all have history, man, 481 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: and that that's our that's our beginnings. Man, this is 482 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: each one of our talents fees the other. It just 483 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: has to You can't Mark Burnin's wanting four square miles. 484 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: How can you not be inspired by someone you went 485 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: to school with and see them blow up like that. 486 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: I'll be sure during that rooftop, I can't tell you 487 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: how I want to feel love out of two ninety. 488 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: Day on the rooftop doing the video, it was like, oh, 489 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: that's our friends. A year A year earlier we throwing 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: football in middle of the street and he went from 491 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 2: that to this. When we saw that video, we said, yoh, 492 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: look at our our It's on damn TV. He's on 493 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 2: video music box. See, man, you I'm talking about age 494 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: right now. I'm going I'm going to hord right now. 495 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: Then no, no, no, no, no no. I was over. 496 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: I was over the Hollers the same this. But you know, 497 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, and what was it where the chuck shall 498 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: out from Chuck Shall out from up there Brox. 499 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: So it was truly Uptown's ticketed, truly, all the battles 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: U Shan and terrorist one and all these things, man 501 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: that we see it. We saw that we went to 502 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: I used to go to look. I used to go 503 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: to the soundview. I sell you, uh this seal View 504 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: projects over there. You know how many times I seen 505 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: the Cole Chris brothers. I've seen the cos for so 506 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: many times flash in a few age five, man, I 507 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: seen everybody, but but and. 508 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: I want to get into like, and you clearly are 509 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: like you know you like me, like I think you're 510 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: only four years old than me. But you know, I 511 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: had the same experience with Hollis and we were all 512 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: having you know I was there, you know the same 513 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: thing when running that pulled that bus up. You know 514 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: they picked us all up from Hollis because you know 515 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: you're doing the same And I want to get into 516 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: your head though about the moments, because you know you 517 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: would go from there then you would go to Saturday 518 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: Night Live. You're right on Saturday Night Live. 519 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: Right. I did a lot of first in New York. 520 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: I did the first pilot on MTV. I did the 521 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: first pilot on Comedy Central. I did the first season 522 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: of the comedy Jam. I did the first one of 523 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: the first seasons of B E. T. Comic View. So, 524 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: I man, I can't even this. I try to spain 525 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: us to young, young inspiring comedians and that you truly 526 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: have to know how to drive your vehicle. You know, 527 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: I use it. I use that metaphor because you know, 528 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, I use it because I just have a 529 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: writ a dance car, you know, the kind of car 530 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: you gotta hold the foot and the break in the 531 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: gas at red lights because it was so when cut 532 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: off on you. That's how I feel like I had 533 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: to move through everything I'm doing. 534 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: So did you look at those pilots as opportunities or 535 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: did you look at it or did other people because 536 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: other people, some people would have been like, yo, man, 537 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: I ain't doing that that new stuff all the time, 538 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: and me because you were starting to get more established. 539 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: Look, I told this is what I told people when 540 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: I when I did bat comic View. I did BT 541 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: com with view once by the death comedy Jam twice right. 542 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: That was different. 543 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: When I did bat once right, and I realized that 544 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 3: all my other friends were doing it three four, five times, 545 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 3: I kept staying I cut up. 546 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: I would tell them to say, look, it's okay to 547 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: do it that many times. But make sure now this 548 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: is the term, this is a big term. 549 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: Make sure you still do other stuff, do other stuff, 550 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: be able to communicate in other rooms. Don't just make 551 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: yourself one dimensional because they gonna see you with one 552 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: dimensional and meaning that I'm in saying it, because look, 553 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: I did multiple things, and I made sure that I 554 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: was able to perform in. 555 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: Front of different kinds of audiences. 556 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: Not that I was excluding anybody, but I made sure 557 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: I understood, and I made sure I tried to write 558 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: what's overall funny that you can get it, you can 559 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: get it, and I can still go top tele comedy 560 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: club and kill it. 561 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: But I wanted to make sure that you're saying when 563 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: you said that to other people that did anybody say, nah, man, 564 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm mistake. 565 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: No no, no, that's not even you know, an answer 566 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: isn't even required. It's just means to saying, hey man, 567 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: you should try to this other stuff so that way 568 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: later on it'll make sense. 569 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: Right now, you might not see it because you're killing 570 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: you're killing me in the black black clubs. You don't 571 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: mean killing it. I get it. 572 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: And and there is comedians who do a lot of 573 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: black rooms and black theaters and they chill them. But 574 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: you still, if you want to have balance, I said, 575 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: don't exclude anything. 576 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: Do what you do, but find a way to communicate 577 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: and be able to walk in any room for a 578 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: meeting and be able to communicate and be able to 579 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: sell your brand. Whatever your brand is, you gotta be 580 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: able to sell it. This is sharp language. You gotta 581 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: be able to sell your brand and know what you 582 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: do to the you know where it's effortless. 583 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't want you to float over that point because 584 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure when you walked into it. Okay, I you 585 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: know I'm not going to assume. But when you walked 586 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: into every single room, different rooms, and you knock it 587 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: out the park all the time, no man, no, but. 588 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: You got you gotta hear it. You gotta go through 589 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: your system, through your system. It has to go through 590 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: your ears, your decipels. 591 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: You know. 592 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: You gotta be able to hear the difference and hear 593 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: different laughters. You gotta hear what they what this particular 594 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: audience tonight loves about me? Is it my delivery tonight? 595 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: Is it my timing tonight? Is it my mannerisms tonight? 596 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: Is it my physicality tonight? Every night I went on stage, 597 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: I got different things that that worked. But I had 598 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 3: to listen to what this particular audience is laughing at 599 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: tonight and give them more of what they want this 600 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: particular audience wants. Some audiences just want you to sit 601 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: there and give it to them. Some want you to 602 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: paint the pictures on stage. 603 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think I think you're too 604 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: close to it, because I gotta tell you the Uptown 605 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Comedy Club in the Saturday Night live audio, two different 606 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: people Saturday Night, different people, and Curb two different people. Now, 607 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: when I go out and speak sometimes I will be 608 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: especially you know, for some reason, a lot of times 609 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm banking organizations and especially insurance organizations have to speak. 610 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: And the insurance organizations always say, damon, I got to 611 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: tell you we need change. We are all pale and stale. 612 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: And I walk into the room and a lot of 613 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: silver haired males are there that I'm about to tell 614 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: them a story about a little brown boy who got 615 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: left back and grew up damn near welfare from Hollis. Yeah, 616 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at them and I you know, we 617 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: don't want to assume, you know what I mean, because 618 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: the people have all colors, who've helped all people around 619 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: the world. But I'm looking like, how are they. 620 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: Going to relate to me? 621 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: And they do, But they're sitting there in their staunch, 622 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, they're in their way. They're in their suits 623 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: right there next to their colleagues. Maybe they don't want 624 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: to have a good time. How did you feel walking 625 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: into these rooms, especially when sometimes you did not get 626 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: the reply you wanted? How did you go back into 627 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: that room? 628 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: I need to drive, you know what I mean. If 629 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm and I use that because I know how to 630 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: drive me and I know and I know how to 631 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: sell myself. If you can sell yourself, but read people, 632 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, read their energies and feel what they're giving 633 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: you back, even if they don't say nothing to you, 634 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: and you're able to change the tune of the room. 635 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: You know, and you can feel people, you know what 636 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean. 637 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: If you're able to do that, you you are able 638 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: to control your destiny. Ain't anytime you see me on 639 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: the late night show, I'm always driving. It's not my 640 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: damn show. I'm not the guest, I'm not I'm not 641 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: the late night host. But but damn it, damnit, I'm driving. 642 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: I'm driving. I'm driving this damn show tonight. When you 643 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: pre interview me, and you're right, you got ten questions 644 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: for me, you might get the two or three. You 645 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 3: might know, you might get the two or three of them. 646 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: They already know when I come. They just would throw 647 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: that card away because. 648 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk industry. Because right now, what you just said, 649 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: because people listening right now, when you pre interview show, 650 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: people don't know that it's not just a given you're 651 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: going to go on the show. You have producer against 652 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: producer against p Yeah, they don't know what you're gonna say, 653 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: if you fit the way that this uh, you know, 654 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: interview is going to interview. So they call you up 655 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: and they pre interviewed because they want to know what 656 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: are you going to say? Can I have this and that? 657 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: And you're saying they're stuck in their own ways and 658 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot of us, you know, we see people who 659 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: are stuck in their own ways. They have their ten questions. 660 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: You're saying, you barely let them get two out, and 661 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: you dictate what's going to happen. 662 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: Man, But I can't. I cannot honestly tell anybody to 663 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: do it. But I know how I know how to 664 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: do it. 665 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: I trust my process, I trust my thoughts. I trust 666 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: listening to what the audience is laughing at right now. 667 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: I trust the host who's show it is, you know, 668 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: even even hosts who have met for the first time 669 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: on their show. I feel like we have we have 670 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: to come across like, hey, we're cool, we're friends, We're cool. 671 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: This is gonna go so smooth because and then they 672 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 2: get then they get caught. 673 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: Up and they disarm them exactly, and they. 674 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: See what you're doing and they let you be you 675 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: the crowded. As long as the audience is having a 676 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: good time at laughing man, carry on, man, it's has 677 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: some fun and I think that's what makes anything. But 678 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: it took me. It took me time to figure that out. 679 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: I can'tnot sit here and say I figured it all out. 680 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: I learned. 681 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Even today, every time I get on a set, every 682 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: time I get on stage, I still learn I stumbled. 683 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 2: I full, I do it all. But can nobody tell 684 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: you to be smooth? Who's not? Feelings? Because I truly believe. 685 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: And again, I got a bad memory for failure. I 686 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: have bad memory for failure. If you ask if I 687 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: stay home one night and you ask me that next 688 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: say what happened, I'd be like, I don't know. 689 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: You gotta whoa? I don't know what ad memory for 690 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: fail Are you serious? 691 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 2: Or you a jeri? 692 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: You have to. 693 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: I have to because if I do well on things 694 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: too long, my movement stops. And I tell people. I 695 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: tell them people that all the time. Don't let nobody 696 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: talk you out of anything. 697 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: Experience it for yourself, Absorb it and figure out how 698 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: can I fix this? 699 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: What did I do wrong last night? Stole and move on. 700 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: Now you get stuck in the mud, you're gonna want 701 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: to you're gonna be too gunshot to pull a trigger. 702 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 2: You won't be able to pull a trigger, they said 703 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: walking on stage right, it's half the battle. If you 704 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: can say I want. 705 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 3: To do this, and you can get your hands out 706 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 3: of that chair and walk on that seat and grab 707 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: that microphone, you're already halfway where you need. 708 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: To be at. 709 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: So and why don't we Why don't we tell on 710 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: what you said? 711 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: You said, you walk in. 712 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: The room, you feel out everybody, and then you relate 713 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: to them. What can somebody do right now when they 714 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: walk into a room, Because a lot of people don't 715 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: you know, they walk into a room, they have their 716 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: walls up in front of them. What are the cases 717 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: I find? 718 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: You work in a room. 719 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Everybody has some things in common. Everybody has wives, they 720 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: all have kids, they all have some things they want 721 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: to do and life. Is there anything that you can 722 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: tell us right now that when next time I walk 723 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: in a room and I don't know how to read 724 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: the room, that I can disarm them and I can 725 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: relate to them. 726 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: You walk in the room, if your auditioned for something, 727 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: you walk in the room. I just want them I 728 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: go in the room as the character I want them. 729 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: I want to see eyebrows raised. I want to see 730 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: them sit up in their chair. I want to see 731 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: them twist their head. I want to see them like, Okay, 732 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 3: I see what they're doing. I disarmed them. And that's 733 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: the same thing I talk about with doing interviews. You 734 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 3: you'll control you're a cadence. You're listen to what a meaning. 735 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: Let's talk what I mean because you you're often in 736 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: rooms when you're you know, you're a businessman the end 737 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: of the day, a hugely successful businessman. Do you walk 738 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: in the room as Jav Smooth, the no comedian, or 739 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: you walking there is the businessman? 740 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: I'm working as a businessman and how do you design? Hey, 741 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm jb all day. 742 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: Let's talk about what we're gonna Let's talk about right 743 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: now what we plan on doing together. 744 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: Do you relate and how do you relate? 745 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: How we can can find our skills to do something don't? 746 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 3: And this is how this is, This is how I'm 747 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: talking right now, is how I speak when I'm in meetings. 748 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 2: I'm passionate about what I do. I know how hard 749 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: I work, and I know that any I know people 750 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: can do this. I know they can do it. But 751 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: you gotta be passionate about it. And if it ain't you, 752 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: who're gonna do it? Somebody else gonna do. 753 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: It and they're gonna feel like that when you walk 754 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: out of that room, Like dammit, I like this, dude, 755 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: And how how do I corral this moment and make 756 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 3: it and make it work for me? I can't sell 757 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: myself short because I already been through it. I've already 758 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: been through what. I've been through it many. I lost 759 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: my dad when I was fifteen years old, right, my 760 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: father died. I guess gris what I had to do. 761 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: I had to figure this shit out, and this is 762 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: how you got to move sometimes. I went to SNL 763 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: as a writer, right, That's what I ended up doing. 764 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 3: I ended up getting a job right as a writer. 765 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 3: That's one check. 766 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: Then I started doing warm up on the show. There's 767 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: two chicks. Then they started cutting me in minologs here 768 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 2: and there. There's three checks. Then Cal O'Brien was still downstairs, 769 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: still at NBC during his show in the same building, 770 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: four stories down in his studio. 771 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: He finds out I'm upstairs as a writer. He already 772 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: knew me already, he said, Man, Jamie's some stats you know, 773 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: people claw on lawn miners and say, hey, can we 774 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: borrow j B? To put JB in some sketches on 775 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 3: my show. So I'm up there working as a writer 776 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: behind a computer. 777 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: LAWD called my phone and say, hey, you know, JB, 778 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: A corner wants to borrow you for a little while 779 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: to do a sketch. Go down there and do a 780 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: sketch with Corn and then come back and finish your writing. Man, 781 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: what damn that's four checks. If that ain't a New 782 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: York hustle, I don't know what it is. 783 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: Four separate checks for doing four different jobs in the 784 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: same building, you know what I'm saying. So that being said, 785 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: I had to hustle to make that happen. I had 786 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 3: to show up to make them say, hey, you want 787 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: to do warm up? I had to show up to 788 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: make them say we didn't pick them for cast, but 789 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna thraw on some sketches, you know what I mean. 790 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: I had to have a. 791 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 3: Relationship already with Coney from previously. He had to like me, 792 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, he had to. He had to like me 793 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 3: to say hey, can we borrow j APE. I had 794 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: to do that a long time ago. I had to 795 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: plant that seed. That's another scene that got planned that 796 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 3: ends up coming back. So I ended up not getting 797 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: not getting I end up not getting renewed, right. 798 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: Man, this is crazy, this is crazy. So I gotta 799 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: I gotta go. I was watching I got I fired everybody, 800 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: so I gotta signed with a new agent. 801 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: Right. 802 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: So, I would say home watching Cribby Enthusiasm, and I 803 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: told my wife, I said, man, I love to show 804 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: so much. Man, I said, I would love to be 805 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: able to show one day. My wife said, you're gonna 806 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: be on that show. She said, I see it. I 807 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: can see you and Larry together. I don't know what 808 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 2: it is. You love this show so much, and you 809 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: do you do this stuff all the time, like with 810 00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 2: your eyes closed. 811 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 3: You improvised all the time. You gonna go to a 812 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: party and this saying you know the party is it's 813 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: a lot live in the whole party up because you 814 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: just being you and you're just improvising you. You and 815 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: Larry would be so funny together. She put that into 816 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: the universe. She's here's how things happen sometimes. One my 817 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: wife told me I was gonna be on the show. 818 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 3: Two SNL didn't resign me, right if SNL resigns me, 819 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: guess what I never know about. I never know about 820 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: quirp enthusiasm because I wouldn't. But I ended up doing 821 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: sue stand up on the road. When I didn't get renewed, 822 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 3: I was talking, I was, I just signed a new Asian. 823 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 3: I was on the road doing some stand up you're 824 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 3: talking about. Two or three months after I didn't resign. 825 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: I end up in Atlanta in the hotel room after 826 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 3: my show, my phone readings. 827 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: My buddy O G. 828 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: Pearce, who produced the song this is how we do it, 829 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: Marchal Jordan is how we do it. You know, g 830 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 3: Gonna make some das you know he produced that song. 831 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 3: We became friends when I was on such an an 832 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: a Tannis show. He was doing the music supervisor, so 833 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: me and him. 834 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 2: Hit it off. We became good friends. And then I 835 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: found out that O G passed away, right I ended 836 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 2: up leaving Atlanta, I said, oh, and then I found 837 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 2: out they were having a memorial service for m in La. 838 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: So look I just saw it. With a new agent. 839 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: I get to La. I said, hell, way, I'm in La. 840 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: I'might as well go and see my new agent. Go 841 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: and meet them so I say, you know what, let 842 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: me go over here and meet meet these double heads. 843 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 2: I met the people in New York. Let me go 844 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 2: meet the people in the LA office. I go over 845 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: to the LA office. I'm over in town. One day, 846 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: my just came for the memorial service. I get to 847 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: the office, right, I called myself in town for a 848 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: friends of memorial service. He passed away. 849 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 3: He said, come on over to the office and meet 850 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: the team. I go over there, man, I go to 851 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: go to this you know, big ass table. Ten chairs 852 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 3: around the table. I'm sitting at the head of the table. 853 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: Everybody got blue suits. Hoole like weed, a damn matrix, 854 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, like I'm in the major like a meo. 855 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 3: I said, okay, so what you want to do now? 856 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 2: You know you've been behind a computer type ping for 857 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 2: three years. You know what's what do you want to do? 858 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, Man, I'm just ready to 859 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 3: get from behind the camera back to the front of 860 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: the camera again. 861 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: Man, my energy is good, you know God. And then 862 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: Asian walks in and says, hey, man, hey, JD get 863 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 2: to meet you. Hey, I heard you in town. Hey 864 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 2: what do you How long you here? 865 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 3: I said, I leave tomorrow. I only came in to 866 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: town because my buddy O. G. Pierce passed away. I 867 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: only came to town for that, So I'm leaving tomorrow. 868 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 3: I got a gig on Sunday. 869 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: Man. 870 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: He says, well, I got an audition. 871 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 3: If you have time to go over there. I said, yeah, 872 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm free, I can go over there. I can go 873 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 3: over there today. I said, what's it? 874 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 2: Four? 875 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 3: He said, Curby Enthusiasm. I said what I said, Man, 876 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 3: I love kurb enthusiasm. I said, I love kurb enthusiasm. 877 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: He said, can you go over there now? I said, 878 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: I said, I said, give me the side. He gave 879 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: me the sides. There's three different things on the page right. 880 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: He said, you know you're gonna do it, maybe two 881 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: of these off this list. I said, okay, I read 882 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: the paper. I said, man, I'm going ahead. I know 883 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: I know what this is. 884 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: I get over there, man, I go split over there. 885 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 3: Everybody's in that room ready to go in the audition. 886 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 3: All my friends, all all my comedian friends are all 887 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 3: going in for the same role, for my role, going 888 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: in there for bificous role, going in there for Auntie 889 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: Rag's role. All the roles people are in that room. 890 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 3: Going in there, I'm saying, oh, man, you know we're. 891 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: Joking around in there. So I said, yo, I said one, okay, 892 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: So I read it, and here's what I do. I 893 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 2: walk in the room. This is my thing. I feel like, 894 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: especially when I'm trying to figure the character out. Like 895 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: I said, I'm go into the room as the character. 896 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I walk in the room as Leon. M Yo. 897 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 3: Your white people were looking at me like, what in 898 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: the hell is going on here? They didn't know what 899 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 3: I was doing, but I had him laughing. 900 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 901 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: They were like, they said, yo, and Larry's still in 902 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: the middle of the room. I had no idea at 903 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: a curb your enthusiasm or audition you improvised directly with Larry. 904 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 2: I had no idea. I had no idea you want 905 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: this room sometimes you're going on tape. 906 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: That gotta be intimidating to it. 907 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: But see, just save me. It saved me because I 908 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: didn't go in the room as JP. I didn't go 909 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: and I went in the room as Leon. 910 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 1: You always Leon. 911 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 3: From from minute from the time I turned the door 912 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: knob the walk in there, I was already in Leon Low. 913 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 3: I already started doing some man of riasms wore I 914 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 3: thought he was. I started speaking differently. I started speaking 915 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 3: more aggressively to Larry because I wanted to put him 916 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 3: on his heels. The first thing I said to Larry, 917 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: this is crazy. I did this though I wouldn'tcommend anybody 918 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 3: doing this, but I said, I said, Okay, okay, JB. 919 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: He said, you're gonna improvise with Larry. Let's do seem one. 920 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: And I said, okay, Larry, let's improvise. I said, may 921 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna improvise, right, And I've been doing it. I've 922 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: been improvising my whole life. I bet improvising through my 923 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: real life and my stand up life. That's the only 924 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: way I'm able to have that type of confidence in 925 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. Win or lose. You gotta have it. 926 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: I walk in there, I said, okay, Labry for improvise. 927 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: I said, anything can happen, Larry. I don't know. I 928 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: might slap in the. 929 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 3: Face, I don't know. Let's see what happened. Le's see 930 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 3: what we going, you know. Larry looked at me like 931 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 3: what the what the is? Room and the producers all 932 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: like and Larry looked at the producers like like, okay, 933 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 3: you know, and man, from that moment on, I had 934 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: that dude crying. 935 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: He had to we we get it off, so well, 936 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 2: see you don't you don't know how these things work. 937 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 3: Then later on I found out that Larry actually but well, 938 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 3: Larry's on the show that I used to love, which 939 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: was Fridays. 940 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: Remember that show. Fridays. 941 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: Fridays was a show that was in competition with SNL 942 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 3: back and the day. Remember Fridays, God Fridays. Oh Man, 943 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 3: Fridays was a joint. Michael Richards was on Fridays, Larry 944 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 3: was on Fridays. It was a show that went head 945 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 3: to head with. 946 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: Man. 947 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 3: It was freaking Hilarry's. It was the only other sketch 948 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 3: show that was just like SNL that came on late 949 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 3: at night. Different, no work. I. I go in the 950 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 3: corner and we just started. 951 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 2: We hit it. We immediately hit it off. 952 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: We laugh and get laughing and say asshof you know 953 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 3: produces the bike meen and I left out of there. 954 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: My agent called me, and my new agent called me. 955 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 2: Chicked on me. He said, man, how did we go? 956 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 2: I said, Man, if anybody else walk in and get 957 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: that role, God blessing, But all often say, is me 958 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: and Larry had a great time. But Larry, But Larry 959 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: did work in SNL for a year. Now, I'm gonna 960 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 2: tell you when I worked at SNL for three seasons, 961 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 2: I can count on one hand how many of my 962 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 2: sketches made it to air one hand, and I might 963 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 2: be able to remove two fingers. 964 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: Why you didn't get anything renewed but yet? 965 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 2: But but let me tell you them. I was definitely. 966 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: A favorite at SNL. My pictures are legendary, legendary. You 967 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 3: took a comedian who writes for himself and you put 968 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 3: them in a writing position, you know, actuality. I probably 969 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 3: should have been both. I probably should have been a 970 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 3: cast member who wrote for himself and other people. Because 971 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 3: I mean, to this day, people still bring up my 972 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 3: old sketches. I don't care who I see. I could 973 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 3: see Lauren, I could see head writers from back then, 974 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 3: past members from back then. They all remember every pitch 975 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 3: I ever pitched, because I would pitch. I would pitch 976 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 3: as a comedian meeting. I would stand up and I 977 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,280 Speaker 3: would pitch my, my, my, my sketch ideas. 978 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: So this is crazy. 979 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 3: I leave there, I said, if someone gets it, this, 980 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 3: God bless him. I said, me and Larry had a 981 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: good time. I thought about it. I didn't think about 982 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 3: it no more. I said, whatever happens happens. I've seen 983 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 3: a lot of people in that room who are talented 984 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 3: as hell. So for me and so like, we'll see 985 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 3: what happens. 986 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: You know. I didn't think about it. I just said 987 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 2: laterated a good time. I don't know how it's gonna 988 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 2: turn out. I don't know. 989 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 3: I get on my flight for the next day. I 990 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 3: fly to Pittsburgh to do a stand up show. I 991 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 3: landed Pittsburgh. I had to drive two hours to get 992 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 3: to the comedy club, which is deep and Pensidica. 993 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 2: I get there the most horrible hotel I've ever been in, 994 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 2: motel Motel No. I got to three hours earlier. I 995 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 2: laid on the bed in my clothes and my colt 996 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: and know, I'm thinking about this is crazy, how life is. 997 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm laying there one can damn thirty ass bed. Right. 998 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: It's a horrible ass motel, you know, And I'm sitting 999 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 3: there like, damn my ass used to write for. I 1000 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 3: get on stage, man, I had a good show, right, 1001 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: go back to the room, I said, Nah, after I 1002 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 3: smell bad weather coming. 1003 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 2: I can smell it. 1004 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 3: I said, nah, I'm two hours from the airport. Here's 1005 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna leave here. I'm gonna 1006 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: go drive and stay at the airport in a nice 1007 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 3: clean room. Got a Hampton in I'm not gonna stand 1008 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 3: this raggedy ass motel. I packed myself, put. 1009 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 2: It in the trunk. Started driving. Fifteen minutes into my drive, 1010 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 2: it is freaking me. Bury's coming down, snow wurry. Then 1011 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: it's like more snow. Then it's more snow. Man. 1012 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 3: It got a half an hour into the ride, I 1013 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 3: couldn't see. I said, damn it. Should I turn around 1014 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 3: and go back? I said, no, what I'm these coats, 1015 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 3: I can drive it in this snow. We used to 1016 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: driving in the snow. I'm done fifteen hours. An hour 1017 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 3: is freaking the blizzard. People are pulling over under it 1018 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 3: and other passes and stuff. I'm just driving in the 1019 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 3: middle of the highway. My agent calls me. 1020 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking he's calling me about what happened club 1021 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: and be cussing his ass out. He said, you know what, 1022 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: I said, man, Look man, that dude's a trip. He said, yeah, 1023 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 2: I know, man. We we've he always gets into it 1024 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: other people. Then he says, I said, now when a 1025 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 2: Holloway doing fifteen miles an hour, man the snow, He said, 1026 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 2: slow down to ten miles an hour because I need 1027 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: you to come back to LA tomorrow, because you just 1028 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 2: got Kurby enthusias dang. And I said, yo, I said 1029 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 2: what I said? Let me call you back, man. I 1030 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: call my wife. I said, baby, guess what happened. Guess 1031 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: what I got? Kirby enthusiasmic. She said, God, I do it. 1032 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 2: I told you you. I told you he's gonna love you. 1033 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 2: I do it it. That's IM saying, listen to your wives. 1034 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: I tell tell people all the time, it's still the 1035 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 2: wife once in a while. But my wife came on 1036 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 2: the show. David, this is nuts, dammit. I get back 1037 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: to l A right. 1038 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 3: But first day on set with that, we were having 1039 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 3: so much, some damn fun. Right in between shots, Larry's 1040 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 3: to me, he said, man, this is crazy, but I feel. 1041 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 4: Like we've been working together for years. I said, no, 1042 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 4: what Larry has ironically be had And I had to 1043 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 4: think about this on my head. We were both on 1044 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 4: essdel We both barely got sketches on snel. Larry even 1045 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 4: quit while he was on Essendel went home. His roommate said, 1046 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 4: are you crazy? That's a check. Larry went back to 1047 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 4: work the next day and pretend like he did. He 1048 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 4: actually did an episode. 1049 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,959 Speaker 2: Of a side thought on it. Yeah, he quit because 1050 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: I asked who his roommates so, are you crazy? That's 1051 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 2: a freaking check. 1052 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: Man. 1053 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 2: Larry went back to work. By nothing happened. Damn its crazy, 1054 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 2: he said, So we that's we had that moment, right, 1055 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 2: did the whole season? Kirby enthusing, right, we ended up. 1056 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 2: You know, they had the rap part. So they had 1057 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: the rap part just everybody you know, all casts or 1058 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 2: crewe the celebrate the season being over. 1059 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 3: We get to the rap part, right, my wife and 1060 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 3: are there showing it. They had something called the gag wheel. 1061 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 5: The gag wheels all the funny moments from the season 1062 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 5: or photos of everybody on crew taking pictures of pictures 1063 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 5: and candid photos of each other, videos scenes that you 1064 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 5: know where were laughing too much or whatever, you know, 1065 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 5: group of rios stuff. 1066 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: Man, So dam it's crazy. Just what song was on 1067 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: the Jagga bull the bean music? Right? This is how 1068 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 2: we do it? Shit yo, yo, man, my heart just 1069 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: started being crazy, and my wife and I looked at 1070 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: each other, like, yo, that's crazy. I would never have 1071 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 2: even been in l A. I had to think about everything. 1072 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: I said, one what if Woji didn't die, What if 1073 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 3: you didn't die at that week, or what if you 1074 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 3: didn't die at all? I would have never been in LA. 1075 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 3: What IFS and L would have resigned me for my 1076 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 3: fourth season? I wouldn't have been in LA, I said, 1077 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 3: third or first? You told me I was want to 1078 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 3: be on the show, but you wouldn't. We wouldn't have 1079 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 3: had that. You told me I was gonna be on 1080 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 3: that show, be before I got fired. And if I 1081 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: think about that moment, you gotta have several moments. I think, 1082 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 3: but you gotta have the right frame of mind. You 1083 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 3: gotta want everybody to win. You don't want just yourself 1084 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 3: to win. Even when I left that audition, I wanted 1085 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 3: my friends to win. Those are a real friends in 1086 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 3: that room going in after me. 1087 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 2: Now, I ain't a lie. When I came out there, 1088 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 2: I was. I was fucking with my little bit. I said, 1089 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 2: hey man, I hold the door. I was just that's 1090 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 2: just how we do a comedity. I hold the door. 1091 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 2: I was all right, all right, okay, Mary, you call 1092 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 2: me later. Man, you'd be cool and close the door. 1093 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: I said, yeah. Larry said, y'all get just sco the now. 1094 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to be in the room. You don't 1095 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: want to be a room. You don't want to be 1096 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: in a room with all your comedians. And one time 1097 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: it's O. 1098 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: No, no. Everybody started laughing. Because that's how we do. 1099 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: I said, hey, man, y'all gonna have fun. 1100 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 3: Man, got I gotta go with the Pittsburgh Man do 1101 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 3: a show. I said, good luck, everybody, good luck. But 1102 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: I say that because that's how we are. 1103 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: We that's how I am. I root for everybody because 1104 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 2: I know if you could walk in that room and win, 1105 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: that opens up. That opens up other doors. Yeah, it 1106 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 2: opens other doors up. So my moment can become your moment. 1107 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, Jay. And this is probably one of the 1108 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: most informal, most powerful interviews I've done it in a 1109 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: long time for various reasons. I think that you did 1110 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: go over what that moment was. I've had those type 1111 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: of moments, but I think everything is not just that simple. 1112 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: It is, like you said, planning seeds, and that moment 1113 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: is a culmination of a bunch of moments that happened. 1114 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: And I think you said it right. 1115 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 2: Man. 1116 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, you lost a lot of people, so you 1117 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: value the moments that when you when you're with people, 1118 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: you you walk out the room and you wish everybody 1119 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 1: you know success, even if it's no one against maybe 1120 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: your success, but it doesn't matter. You know, you don't 1121 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: want to get in their way. It doesn't make your 1122 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: way any easier, you know what I mean. And then 1123 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: you had a special moment. Man. I really really thank you, man, 1124 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: because I think that I got to reflect and think 1125 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: about things. And you know, you've always been like that. 1126 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever met I mean, you know, Quincy. 1127 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: You know you've never had people in between any of us. 1128 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Like when I speak to you, and I've always whenever 1129 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: I've speak spoken to anybody spoken you, it's almost like 1130 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: you're talking to a long lost friend or old body, 1131 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: you know. And even if you have somebody there who's 1132 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: working with you, like my Chauncey or my Ted parent 1133 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: or Ted, it's like, yeah, that's cool, but we're talking 1134 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: to you. We're just all hanging out. And I think 1135 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: that that is what makes you such a beautiful person, 1136 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: and it comes off on TV. It comes off when 1137 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: people meet you, man, and and it's good to see 1138 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,959 Speaker 1: people that don't put a lot of shields in front 1139 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: of them. And if we have to go and speak 1140 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: to the other people, it's all good. But we know that, 1141 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: we know that it's part of the process and it 1142 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: was all cool. But thank you for sharing that moment 1143 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: with me. 1144 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 2: I think you have me man too. 1145 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: We know we always have good talk, we always have 1146 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: a good time. We're gonna have any more of them, 1147 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna have. 1148 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 2: Well. 1149 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. 1150 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: Brother, Hey man, I love you all. Man, You'll be 1151 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: good day. 1152 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: This has been that Moment with Damon John. That Moment 1153 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: with Damon John is a production of the Black Effect 1154 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. 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