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Speaker 3: we're now joined by three times sixth Man of the Year.

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Speaker 3: On April ninth, twenty nineteen, he became the oldest player

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Speaker 3: And he's also the first and only player thus far

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Speaker 3: And he's the newest analyst. He's gonna be calling game

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Speaker 3: for NBC next season, the one, the only. Jamal Crawford. Jamal,

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Speaker 2: I'm good? Old Nation got big all right.

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Speaker 3: The trade that happened last night, Luca a superstar, beyond superstar,

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Speaker 3: a global superstar in this absolute He's not even here

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Speaker 3: his prime yet, Jamal.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty five years of age.

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Speaker 3: He's a five time first team All NBA player, and

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Speaker 3: and in return, the Lakers get Luca, they gets Max Kleeber,

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Speaker 3: and they get Mark Kif Marris who was already he

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Speaker 3: So Lakers received Luca, Maxi, Kleber, Markif Marris. The MAVs

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Speaker 2: Jamal, when you heard this trade, I thought it was

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Speaker 3: I thought somebody had had because it ain't no way

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was I thought it was a little

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Speaker 5: And if i'll be young NBA star, I'm not comfortable

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Speaker 5: said last year on Shock's podcast, I said, if I'm Laker,

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Speaker 5: was trading. I said, Lebron is still the best player

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Speaker 5: going for the now and the future. As Lebron says,

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Speaker 5: You have a bonified superstar that now we who other

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Speaker 5: He's gonna bring me a Hollywood white Fish, Hollywood Dan Book,

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Speaker 5: all the other Dallas. It's a perfect compliment to Kyrie.

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Speaker 5: They obviously are gonna make some Morena move. They didn't

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Speaker 5: almost four hundred million dollars. But I's going off the college.

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Speaker 5: See it's really loud right now because now we're looking like, no,

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Speaker 5: what happy trade? Like they had to do stuff thing

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking ahead little bit. Obviously it had to be

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Speaker 5: So for me, I think, I honest see that could

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Speaker 5: They chose to stick with me and Megal Jason Pierre

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Speaker 5: speaks about Card He's always sneaking glory. He does everything

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Speaker 5: still this fun who's still doing nothing. He still makes

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Speaker 5: years on the contract. Well, so you don't condeict that

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm looking at it, and I've said this.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows this is not right now. I called I

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlyle, you got Luca. Guys don't normally say nah,

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Speaker 3: I'm good and leave a superstar player that's only twenty

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Speaker 3: two years of age, Jamal. So there was something that

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Speaker 3: a year, Jamal. If a guy's unconditioned, he doesn't take

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Speaker 3: hear listen to ni Ko says, he says something by culture.

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Speaker 3: When I hear that, Jamal, I don't know about you,

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Speaker 5: Their coaching means and something beyond scenes that he's not

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Speaker 5: his problem. So that's why I'm shocking's happened. Even with

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Speaker 5: They don't be training and you're gonna be when this

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Jamal, and I tell you this

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Speaker 2: Can win right now. I like Kyrie and Ad in

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Speaker 3: a twenty five year old that's five times first Team

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Speaker 2: It tells me everything I need to know. I don't

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Speaker 3: But you know it had to be bad, Jamar, because

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Speaker 3: but they say, no, hell, it ain't.

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Speaker 1: edgible for the five year through forty five super he

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Speaker 3: You only get a four year dollars because he was

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Speaker 3: So think about that, he would have been eligible to

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Speaker 5: I think they were more still if they gave him

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Speaker 3: Not to say injuries don't happen, but I believe the

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Speaker 3: You're not taking care of your body. It's being reported

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Speaker 3: Damn near two that you played it two decades. When

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Speaker 3: That'll been like they've moved Magic Johnson in his prime,

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Speaker 3: But but here's the thing, this is what we know.

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Speaker 3: You want that on Luca, You want that, you want

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Speaker 3: he is. And they believe that those injuries, a lot

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Speaker 3: how long can he go on that?

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Speaker 2: Look?

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Speaker 3: So now you hear culture, you hear you see a

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Speaker 1: Go some got to give away. You know, everybody's gonna

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Speaker 2: Head on you you got you got, you got to

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Speaker 1: So how do you like this?

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Lebron is at the age he can't play consistent defense.

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Speaker 3: but who can they stop? Look, I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 3: This is what the Lakers and I and I've studied

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Speaker 3: the Lakers do. They got Willed because they love superstars

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Speaker 2: You gotta have them.

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Speaker 3: You cannot get over it. You cannot survive at the

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Speaker 3: and then they follow that over Kareem and they go

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Speaker 3: You see show, Hey, you see Mookie. That's what they

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Speaker 3: you gotta have a star. You gotta have stars, Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 3: We got beaches, we got sam we got rude talks.

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Speaker 3: You got so much going on, and if you don't win,

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Speaker 3: they not coming to see you. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: I don't care. See that's the notion that people make, Jamal,

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Speaker 3: about No, no, no, no, no. It doesn't work like that,

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Speaker 2: And say, we don't like the pro.

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Speaker 3: We love the professional because he's given us twenty nine,

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Speaker 3: His behavior and the way he does things that say, nah,

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: We let him get two years into sixty and seventy

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Speaker 3: two twenty three. What can't you know would walk away

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Speaker 3: Larry Bird. That's what lucas a comparison is. I'm not

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Speaker 3: They don't come So if I get one, I gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why it's like we have never ever

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Speaker 5: What's so happened is where he's going and where Anthony

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Speaker 3: I also think I think now he just lost one

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Speaker 3: Now, if that don't get your attention, it should have

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Speaker 2: Maybe something of them.

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Speaker 3: But the ain't a whole ain't a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: So they gonna take four million to nother three. So

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, let's say he missed that on one seventeen,

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Speaker 1: right whereever you missed out. What let's say he gets

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Speaker 1: It's possibility he can recoup that money on the back

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Speaker 2: It all depends.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like time because yeah, let's just say

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Speaker 3: You remember when Boogie Boogiet missed out on what two

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Speaker 2: Never saw pay their aguinion. See that's the thing, oh Joe.

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Speaker 3: You see, we we're under the assumption and we hope

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Speaker 3: keep hauling logs on top of it, and you see

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Speaker 3: what happened to it?

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Speaker 2: Basically, Oh Joe, talk hold on.

437
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Speaker 1: You got to understand I was going five for one

438
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Speaker 1: eighty on McDonald's and cheeseburgers and fries and the coke

439
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: so you know, having a deal with you at my

440
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: age with the skill set would never happen any injuries.

441
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Speaker 1: That's easy work.

442
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: See he was doing it at twenty five.

443
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Speaker 1: S ag ain't number, but the number they the man

444
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Speaker 1: created that, I know, aj whenever you ready, I'm here.

445
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Speaker 1: That's all they got to see that fool work this.

446
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Speaker 2: Time working on me. Let me, let me let me

447
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Speaker 2: ask you a questions, Jamal, who do you think won

448
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Speaker 2: the trade?

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Speaker 5: I think Dallas is on the immediate future, that immediate cornly,

450
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Speaker 5: I think the life is going the future Parker.

451
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Speaker 6: And the reason being is he w let's help you.

452
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Speaker 6: But and as you know, like we've seen sometimes or

453
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Speaker 6: Staff and his thought and he steading games on the

454
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Speaker 6: last yet but he's gonna have a different walk mode man,

455
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Speaker 6: you like you said, he's gonna be involving picking alls

456
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Speaker 6: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Uh lukall.

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Speaker 5: That's a great transition to me as a preacherre Shi

459
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Speaker 5: star whenever the brown side.

460
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Speaker 2: He's having that because you gotta have them roll.

461
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Speaker 5: So I think Bolts have won it. It was just

462
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Speaker 5: so so weird, the weirdness of even deverything, because I

463
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Speaker 5: just go hold a guess, could you imagine doing some track. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: well he tell or being between Joker and just is shocking.

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Speaker 5: That's why I said, what don't tell you something else.

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Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be one that love. I think

467
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Speaker 5: it's gonna be a shocking break that happened. Oh this

468
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Speaker 5: next time I period that plumba sheet, I'll think something smoke.

469
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Speaker 3: And if you look at what Minnesota gave up to

470
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Speaker 3: get Rudy Gobert, yeah dollars, it won't but one first

471
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Speaker 3: round pick, I'll think, give me twenty seven, give me

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Speaker 3: twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: I want to pick, swap in tween and and hit

474
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Speaker 2: me what you gave me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, that's all you gotta be because this dude

476
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Speaker 8: is generation lous so good at fallatain ball, Luke will

477
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Speaker 8: put you out and dare it won't tell me that

478
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Speaker 8: when he's playing at the time he now he playing again,

479
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Speaker 8: she was gonna get your coach, King Joko got that

480
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Speaker 8: quality in the ground as well. You know this, I

481
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Speaker 8: got you on that och Okay, I'm I'm expose him

482
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Speaker 8: over there like he's one of those meeting the games

483
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Speaker 8: he've always Suddenly it looks like I got here coo.

484
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Speaker 2: Though, Like you listen to Sha Bassall he saw it, peace,

485
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Speaker 2: wouldn't Benner? That is crazy but bad think always can

486
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Speaker 2: you don't see it?

487
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it three times six Man

488
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Speaker 3: of the Year of the oldest man in NBA history

489
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Speaker 3: to have a fifty point game, the only man in

490
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Speaker 3: NBA history to have fifty at least fifty with four

491
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Speaker 3: different franchises, the one, the only. Jamal Crawford, good luck

492
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Speaker 3: next year and calling games on NBC. Jamal, congratulations, John,

493
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Speaker 3: well done. Hey, really appreciate your stopping by the drop

494
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Speaker 3: offer some insight into this big trade.

495
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Speaker 2: Appreciate Thank you'all. Even shout out to my guys and

496
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Speaker 2: John Saonlorady to be a healthy Yeah, thank you all

497
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Speaker 2: right us all.

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Speaker 3: Now we're joined by a former NBA Rookie of the

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Speaker 3: Year All Star, former Warriors head coach Mark Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Mark, talk to it, bro. How you doing? Everybody's great? Bro?

501
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: We cannot we cannot complain. Huh huh, Hey, churin your

502
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: camera on Mark got to pull a shut of sharp

503
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Speaker 3: Aldio only how do I do that? Uh?

504
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Speaker 2: Here you go? Here you are, coach? What's what's up?

505
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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 7: And happy problem for y'all.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Mark mar Let's get into this trade, bro

508
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Speaker 3: It came out of nowhere. Normally trades like this it

509
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Speaker 3: had to be a special type of relationship because you

510
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Speaker 3: had to send on it because prior to it dropping,

511
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Speaker 3: there was no win Ad getting traded, nothing about Luca

512
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Speaker 3: getting traded, and then boom, you're trading a twenty five

513
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Speaker 3: year old five time first team All the NBA player

514
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Speaker 3: that haven't even reached his prime yet, or Anthony Davis

515
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Speaker 3: a first round pick and Max Christie. Talk to us

516
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Speaker 3: about the trade. You coached this game, you played this game.

517
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Speaker 3: Talk to us how of the deal like this happened?

518
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Speaker 7: But we don't know the truth of everything. That's first

519
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Speaker 7: and foremost. Uh, this is an incredible deal that was

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Speaker 7: pulled off by Dallas maverickan in Los Angeles Lakers, primarily

521
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Speaker 7: Nico Harrison and Rob Polinka. It is in my time

522
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Speaker 7: of playing basketball, following basketball, coaching basketball, it is the

523
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Speaker 7: most shocking trade pulled off without anybody leaking it, not

524
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Speaker 7: anybody knowing anything about it. And then everybody that got

525
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 7: wind of it thought it was a flute. We thought

526
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Speaker 7: that I got phone calls in a minut expan saying

527
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Speaker 7: this can't be real. Can you can you confirm it?

528
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Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know, I can't confirm it, or

529
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Speaker 7: now it's it's shocking, like you said, a twenty five

530
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Speaker 7: year old guy, five times First Team on NBA Generational Talent.

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Speaker 7: One thing I would have done if I was Nico

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Speaker 7: Harrison Mack. I'm not minimizing it to Los Angeles Lakers

533
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Speaker 7: and that one troone call. I am opening up the

534
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Speaker 7: bidding for Luca Dontons, letting everybody know. Everybody's well aware

535
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Speaker 7: of what he brings to the table. I got him assured.

536
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Speaker 7: Now the best deal may be Anthony Davis and the

537
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Speaker 7: only guy from the Lakers. I doubt it, and Lisa

538
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Speaker 7: would have made sure the Lakers sent it. Hopefully the

539
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Speaker 7: first round picks in. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: you can't underestimate he got an ELAE first Ballot Hall

541
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Speaker 7: of Famer in Anthony Davis, whose only concern is staying

542
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Speaker 7: health him when he's on the floor. He's a dominant

543
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Speaker 7: basketball player, and I believe it helps both teams and

544
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Speaker 7: the Lakers continue to add. By adding a big both

545
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Speaker 7: teams have a legitimate chance of winning it all. The

546
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Speaker 7: Lakers because they have two guys that can control a

547
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Speaker 7: basketball game at all times on the offensive. N Dallas

548
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 7: matters because they have a legit big man that prefers

549
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Speaker 7: from his own words to play the powerful position, now

550
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Speaker 7: has two young, athletic, energetic bigs to protect him. And

551
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Speaker 7: then you have a guy like Carrier Irvan who's a special,

552
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 7: special generational talent in his own right that can do

553
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Speaker 7: some similar things with Luca and can carry them on

554
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Speaker 7: the offense name and create an offense for himself on

555
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Speaker 7: his teammates. Heck, my former leader assistant Pete Mayans, who

556
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Speaker 7: played for the Chicago Bulls, the brilliant basketball mindset. A

557
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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame General madding On once said to him,

558
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Speaker 7: do not make a trade that can cost you your job.

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Speaker 7: And that's what Nicol Harrison did. But I give him

560
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Speaker 7: credit because so many guys willing to just cruise along.

561
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Speaker 7: I can win twenty games, thirty games. I could go

562
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Speaker 7: to the lottery time and time. I could be bad

563
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Speaker 7: back out an excuse. He swung for defensive and the

564
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Speaker 7: only gamble. I think he gave up my home run talent.

565
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Speaker 7: But Anthony Davis has got to stay healthy and they'll

566
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Speaker 7: be good for you. Know the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: Hey coach, listen for someone who played the game for

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Speaker 1: a long time, for someone who coached the game as

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Speaker 1: well as a coach, and you think about that. Just

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Speaker 1: want you to put your g M had on for

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Speaker 1: a quick minute.

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Speaker 2: What can a player do.

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Speaker 1: To the magnitude? And whereas that egregious to you trade

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Speaker 1: somebody that young, that's that spectacular and brings that much

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Speaker 1: to a team, especially from my office, to standpoint, you

576
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Speaker 1: got to talk to me. Just just give me some

577
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: give me some type of better context or context on

578
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Speaker 1: what could a player do behind the scenes that could warrant.

579
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Speaker 2: Such a trade for someone.

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Speaker 7: Such What makes it shocking to me? And I think

581
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 7: that's a great question. And what I don't like is

582
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden stuff come out that didn't come

583
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Speaker 7: out all along. So let's let's be fat in him.

584
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, right the things

585
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 7: we know about it can be a better conditioned athlete,

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Speaker 7: He can be better committed on a defensive vand you

587
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 7: can have a better competitive fight and spirit defensively, not

588
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 7: every fifth possession, every tenth possession. I could show you

589
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Speaker 7: fifty clips of who could donchers more than capable of

590
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Speaker 7: defending and having gain plan disciline on the defensive end

591
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Speaker 7: of the floor. That can show you two hundred clips,

592
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Speaker 7: but he lays down points the thing in blame somebody else.

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Speaker 7: I would say to my ownership for my management, that's

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Speaker 7: interesting in trading for Luca, Trading Luca dops because of

595
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: those reasons. I would tell him personally, that's on me.

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00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 7: He's been in this league six years. I got to

597
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 7: do a better job of bringing that out of them

598
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 7: and holding an accountable defending at a high level, competing

599
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 7: at a high level, being a better leader, and that

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Speaker 7: that would be on me.

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Speaker 2: What about go ahead, O Joe, hold on, hold on,

602
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Speaker 2: I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: You think about what Luca is able to do from

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Speaker 1: the office standpoint right, and one of the gripes. One

606
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Speaker 1: of the issues that he may have is his lack

607
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: of ability to play defense. But if he is a

608
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: little bit better on defense, coach, wouldn't that takeaway from

609
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: his offensive Sounds like.

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Speaker 7: A receiver that didn't want to block, but it wasn't his.

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Speaker 3: Get it just he thought, you're not going to you

612
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: on this play. Doesn't it give you a license to chill?

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Speaker 3: You still have the responsibility.

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Speaker 7: And my job as a coach is who you're accountable

615
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 7: to that because it's not about you, it's about us,

616
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 7: and other guys are watching them. If I allow you

617
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 7: to do that, and because they're rolling one day, I

618
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Speaker 7: allow them to do that. I'm not saying I'm holding

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Speaker 7: you to the same standard. I like that in the

620
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Speaker 7: idea were we all have kids, and that's not how

621
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Speaker 7: it works. But I'm gonna hold you to a standard.

622
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Speaker 7: But I will not accept and and and losing. I'm

623
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Speaker 7: not gonna but I will not accept the winning. I'm

624
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Speaker 7: not gonna accept looke. I gotta say to you, you

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Speaker 7: hurt that the far have you heard that same?

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Speaker 2: I heard it. I heard because guys are watching.

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Speaker 7: I can't. I can't now yell at you because no,

628
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Speaker 7: I've been doing this for twenty twenty. I've been doing

629
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Speaker 7: this for five years now.

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Speaker 2: You got a problem with it.

631
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Speaker 3: See you never accepted it. Hey, you never accepted anything

632
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: in the wind. You wouldn't a lost it. But here's

633
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Speaker 3: the thing, okay, Jack, you said, is your job to

634
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Speaker 3: hold them accountable for a little bit more for the

635
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Speaker 3: defensive being. Are you holding yourself accountable for his unconditioned,

636
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Speaker 3: his training.

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Speaker 2: His eating.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. Guess what I gotta I got to go see

639
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 7: him in the off season. I gotta take a flight

640
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 7: and go spend some time with him. I gotta send

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00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 7: one of my assistants, I'm my player development coaches, go

642
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 7: spend some time with him. I gotta go. I gotta

643
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 7: send a chef with him. I'm gonna put you in

644
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 7: position to be successful. I don't want you to just

645
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 7: chase down being a five time All NBA team player

646
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: or generational talent. I want you to have the jewelry

647
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 7: at the end of the day. I want you to

648
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 7: be in that special room with those special guys that

649
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 7: you deserve to be in. I'm just being there with

650
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 7: just all everybody else you should he should be. He's

651
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 7: good enough and great enough to be in the room

652
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Speaker 7: by with just a handful of guy. He's that special

653
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: of the talent. And I'm cheating him if I fall short,

654
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 7: up holding unaccountable and put them in position to take

655
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 7: away those those critics.

656
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Right, you can't.

657
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: I tell my kids this, I can't want something from

658
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: you more than you want it for yourself. And you

659
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: got kids, and you know they've gotta want it for

660
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: themselves as much as you want it for them. If

661
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: Luca doesn't want what you want for him is not

662
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: gonna work.

663
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: It's just won't.

664
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: It just won't.

665
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 7: That's true. But he is so special and so great.

666
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 7: You can't convince me he don't want it. You just can't.

667
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 7: He's so special and so great. You average a forty

668
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 7: point triple double in the playoffs. You are the best

669
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 7: player in the Eastern Conference, I mean the Western Conference finals.

670
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 7: You're the best player on the He is a special,

671
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 7: special talent. I'm not asking him to and I'm gonna

672
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 7: tell him. I'm gonna push the right a button. I'm

673
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 7: not asking you something that I believe you can't do.

674
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 7: I'm not asking you to protect the rim and lock shout.

675
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 7: I'm not asking you to be a lockdown defender. I'm

676
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 7: not asking you to be two hundred pounds. Let's let's

677
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 7: meet somewhere in the middle where now it's acceptable. I'm

678
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 7: not asking me. I just don't want you to point

679
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 7: the finger to a guy wide open in the corner

680
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 7: and you just stand there. You know that's your man,

681
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 7: and that's your responsibility. Everybody in the reading knows that

682
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 7: your fault. That shit burn, that shit upsets you. I'm

683
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 7: not saying that it hasn't happened to me. And seven

684
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 7: years to play special basketball, and then all these years

685
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 7: are playing basketball. I got exposed at times on the

686
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 7: defense bat, but I got upset about it, and I'm

687
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 7: reacted to and responding to and held myself accountable.

688
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Listen, Cole one more, one more question, one more question.

689
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the mental part of it, right, the

690
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: mental part. As far as lucas concerned, How's he going

691
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: to react? How is he going to Is the trade

692
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: this is a wake up call?

693
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Is he gonna fold?

694
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 7: Now?

695
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Two things can happen. Most of the time, you think

696
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: your player, you're sitting on top of the world. You

697
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: feel you feel like you're invincible. You know you're making

698
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: good money, you're one of the best players in the NBA,

699
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you get that call, Oh yeah,

700
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: you've been traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. Now, what

701
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Luca are we gonna get from this point going forward?

702
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Are we getting a pissed off Luca? Are we getting

703
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: a Luca that's gonna fold under the pressure.

704
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 7: We don't know that Luca that you're talking about holding

705
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 7: under pressure All he's done in six years is be great,

706
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 7: be a generational talent. He's been special.

707
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: What what just happen?

708
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 7: You got late.

709
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: Exactly?

710
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: Now getting traded can do something to your mental now

711
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: something I'm talking about the different kind of pressure, pressure

712
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: plan and being comfortable in Dallas knowing you that guy.

713
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 7: I agree with you with certain dudes because I don't

714
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 7: care where you put Tom Brady. He's Tom Brady in

715
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 7: New England. He's Tom Brady and Tampa Bay Luca doncons

716
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 7: We're not gonna cheat his talent and his level of

717
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 7: great He's a special talent. I believe it will elevate

718
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 7: him conditionally wise and yes, and and fight, you know,

719
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 7: to fight defensively because he's got a guy in the

720
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 7: locker room that that's a hero of him that he

721
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: looks up to. Now Lebron James certainly has his flaws

722
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 7: and times, but one thing he does is take Kevin's

723
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 7: body and he's an all time great. He's a special

724
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 7: talent that if you just hang around, you've got testimonies

725
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 7: from teammates, coaches, He's gonna make you better. And Luca

726
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 7: Dontis will be a better conditioning athlete and a better defender, uh,

727
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 7: competitively speaking, because of because of being around Lebron James.

728
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: That's one thing Lebron James will bring to the table

729
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: without a doubt. But you know what, Jack, I had

730
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: a guy to tell me one time. He say, they'll

731
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: tolerate you until they can replace you profession lucas a

732
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: professional basketball player. It seems to me Nico Nico Harrison

733
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: had a problem with him being a pro, which was

734
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 3: how he conducted himself in being a professional basketball player.

735
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: You don't It had to get to a point, Mark Martin,

736
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: You know this having played, Mark, you played seventeen years,

737
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: you played seventeen years, you coached in this league in

738
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: order for you to trade a generational talent because we've

739
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: never seen it happen before at twenty five, the behavior

740
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, it had to be egregious. There's no

741
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: other way around, at Jack, the other way.

742
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 7: You're right, that twenty five year old generational talent, we've

743
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 7: never seen him before. Unless he asked to be trained,

744
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 7: that's a different ballgame. This guy didn't ask to be tracked.

745
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 7: He says he's to find his life as a Dallas Magic.

746
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 7: So there is clearly something that made them pulled the

747
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 7: trigger and make the training and pick up the phone

748
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 7: and call Los Angeles. I don't know what it is

749
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 7: and that don't come out. At some point it's.

750
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: Gonna come out. But but if it don't come out,

751
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 3: to watch it to come out in the rents. Yeah,

752
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: he's too great of a player that you just decide

753
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: him pick up the phone. No, I can't handle the

754
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: think about it when it's likely he fencing intensity for

755
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: forty eight minutes and it's not conditioning.

756
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 7: Overall, the dude was still a five time first team

757
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: All NBA player and six years yep. So I'm gonna

758
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 7: live with I'm gonna live with some of that and

759
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 7: try to make him better. I'm not just gonna pick

760
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 7: up the phone on a random day and call the

761
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: Los Angeles leter. So it's something that pushed the button

762
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 7: to make them make this call.

763
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: But Jack my not intil the raised with Rick Carlile

764
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't sign the contract extension. You know how hard it

765
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: is to get a generational player. They don't fall on trees,

766
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: and a lot of coaches never get an opportunity to

767
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: coach a generational talent. Rick Carlyle didn't accept the contract extension,

768
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: and he had a twenty two to twenty three year

769
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: old Luca that should have raised the intenda, but really

770
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: raised mine tenda when I heard Nico Harrison say culture.

771
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: When you hear that, Jack, I know you're in tender

772
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: raised too, because we see this with Zion. We believe

773
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: his conditioning plays a role in his injuries. We see

774
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: that with Joel Embiid. We believe his conditioning plays a

775
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: role in his injuries.

776
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: They believe. I believe it is my estimation and I'm

777
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: just looking at this from a distance.

778
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: I believe the Mavericks believe that Luca's condition or lack

779
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: thereof his training, his eating habits play a role in

780
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: those injuries. And I got to give you seventy million

781
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: dollars this summer for the for next summer.

782
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: For five years. Oh no, Jack, I can't do that.

783
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 7: Oh I could do it. I can't do it. And

784
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 7: you would do it too. The guy in the top

785
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 7: five player in the world, no question about his ability.

786
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 7: The thing I got a problem with is you can

787
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 7: pat him. Joel Embiid and Zion Wimson. You guys that

788
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 7: have a tough time standing on the floor. That's not

789
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 7: Luca's issue. He plays hurt, he plays hobble, doesn't take

790
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 7: care of his body the best condition physically, doesn't come

791
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 7: in shape, can't and can't. But he plays. He loves

792
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 7: to play. Those other two guys have missed a substantial

793
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 7: amount of game. I think culture is the conditioning. It's

794
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 7: how we act on the bus and how we act

795
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 7: on the Plane's how we act in the locker room.

796
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: We don't know that story.

797
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 7: I'll give you an example. Jimmy Butler, report come out.

798
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler had the plane waiting for hour of everybody

799
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: wait to him. Are you kidding me?

800
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: That's not on Jimmy Butler. That's all I'm not waiting

801
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: an hour from nobody. That's what happened.

802
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 7: Reporting the plane is taking off. We're leaving Jimmy Butler

803
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 7: wait for Jimmy Butler, and you're setting yourself up a

804
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: disaster if you're setting yourself up for a culture that

805
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 7: allows that.

806
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: No, we're gonna set the tone right away. We need

807
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: this down. And if he shows up to the game,

808
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: he shows the game we're handling. Then, but I got

809
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: a president.

810
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: Are you sitting with Luca when you know he's out

811
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: of shape where you know he's not conditioning properly.

812
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 7: When you know he's not training properly, the dude is

813
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 7: averaging thirty and nine. He's the best player on the

814
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 7: floor every now. So you gotta find other other ways

815
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 7: to push the button to get him to respond. You

816
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 7: got to you gotta pull him in the office by

817
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 7: yourself and talk to him. You gotta pull him in

818
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 7: office with kyrier. You gotta pull him in the office

819
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 7: with the gym. You gotta pull him in office with ownership,

820
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 7: bring in some former greats, bring in Dirk Nisti. Whatever

821
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: trip you got to do to push the button, No,

822
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 7: whatever day, whatever the trip is, you gotta do to

823
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 7: push the button. Your job, My job is to find

824
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 7: that button and push it. Because he is great, and

825
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 7: he's an all time great. But I want to put

826
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 7: him in that special room that he deserves to be in.

827
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: I'm not like this.

828
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 7: This guy's you have get talked up to be great.

829
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 7: When he walked into this, he was great, you know, don't.

830
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 7: You don't have to hype him up and talk him up.

831
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 7: He's great day one. So now let's get you into

832
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: that special room. And it's just something that you deserve

833
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 7: and you're cheating yourself. Forget about me. You're cheating yourself

834
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 7: if you don't put yourself in the best possible position

835
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 7: to get that. Does he want to be in that room?

836
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 7: You want him in that room? Does he want to

837
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 7: be in there?

838
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: Because if he wanted to be in that Jack all

839
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: the grace that you mentioned that if the handful of guys,

840
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: did any coach had to hold their hand Jordan Covid,

841
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 3: lebron Bird Magic, kareem give me some more, Elijah Wan

842
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: the guy, the handful of guy that's in that room,

843
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: did they have to be had with spoon fed?

844
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, Hey, do you think a Jack you

845
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: think the culture and where he comes from is a

846
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: little bit different as opposed to all the guys that

847
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm just named and their approach to the game of basketball.

848
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that might be the issue, might.

849
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 7: Have something to do it. But the dude was a

850
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 7: pro at thirteen years old. He's been a pro since

851
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 7: he's been thirteen years old. He's a special talent. And

852
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 7: I agree with you with those guys that you named.

853
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 7: But there's some guys and I don't have him at

854
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 7: the top of my head because somebody had to be

855
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 7: pushed to long some guys, some guys didn't love basketball

856
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: and they're in that special role. Jim Dunlan didn't touch

857
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 7: the basketball until he got into high school. I believe

858
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: his junior year he was a swim dude. He was

859
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 7: an He need swimmer, not just it's great enough to

860
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 7: get in that room. And I believe he's gonna get there.

861
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 7: And I believe putting on a purple and goal and

862
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 7: having a new challenge in his life is going to

863
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 7: get him there. But he also has to have coaches, management, ownership,

864
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 7: leadership in that in that locker room that holds the

865
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 7: macabo and has the same voice as the people that's

866
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 7: trying to pour into his life instead of high five

867
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 7: and hugging him and giving him that when he won

868
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 7: a ball game, so let's talk about you won the game,

869
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: but how about the defensive stop that that that you

870
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 7: gave up on It almost cost us the game. So

871
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 7: we can have that conversation too. Got to surround himself

872
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 7: with people that are not yes and then the whole

873
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 7: macatable and push Clutton and inspire him to one and

874
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 7: that as bad as we wanted.

875
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: Short long term who you believe one the trade short

876
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: long term. I love I love ad to the mav

877
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: Kyrie and the pick and roll. Great help defender, can

878
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: defend one through five, tremenducing the pick and roll can

879
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: help with weak side defense. The Lakers got a little

880
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: last on defense. Lebron can't sit in the cherry anymore.

881
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: At forty Luca we talked about that doesn't really want

882
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: to play. Austur reeves people attack him because they can't.

883
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

884
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: The Lakers got substantially weaker on the defensive en They

885
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: set themselves up for the next ten years.

886
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: Though you can't. You can't take that take that away

887
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 7: from them. I think both teams are in position to

888
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 7: win a championship. You're the Lakers. Your next movie is

889
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 7: your best move. They gotta find a big to clean

890
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 7: up some of the mess and protect the weakness that

891
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 7: they have on the defensive side of the floor, protecting round,

892
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 7: play the pick and roll, hold the fort down a

893
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 7: little bit as German penetration of affection, and I like

894
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 7: with the Dallas. I think both teams have helped themselves

895
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: because I can't understand how great Anthony Davis is, and

896
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 7: clearly I already graded enough about Luke the Doctor He's

897
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 7: gonna be interesting to see how this thing all plays out.

898
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 7: And I think the Lakers cannot be judged on just

899
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 7: when they're a championship or not winning a championship. This year,

900
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 7: they got a generational talent which hard to find that

901
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 7: puts them in position for Aster Lebron James Lee.

902
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: But let me ask your question. Let's just say and

903
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: now I'm hoping, Hey, you know I root for the Lakers.

904
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm hoping Luca like man, I just caused myself one

905
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen million dollars.

906
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Everybody believes I could be special. I am special.

907
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: Let me do what it takes in order to be

908
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: in that room that Mark Jackson keeps talking around. There's

909
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: only a handful of guys in there. There are only

910
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: a handful of guys that deserve to be mentioned of

911
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: being in there. There are I mean, some guys can

912
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: peep in the room, but there's some guys that's sitting

913
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: at the table in the room. Let me, let me,

914
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: let me get on my conditioning, let me hire me

915
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: a chef. Look, I'm not saying whatever what hey, I'm

916
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: not saying Michael Jordan's more more cigars than any and

917
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: still up with that the and bust and bust them up.

918
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 5: Mark.

919
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: Some guys drink, some guys can do that. But the

920
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: one thing you know about about MJ. He came into shape, Lebron,

921
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: loves his wife and a car, gets a cigar. But

922
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: you know he don't cheat the process. And the one

923
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: thing about those guys that are in that room, they

924
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: didn't cheat the process.

925
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: You're right.

926
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan didn't play basketball until high school, but Park

927
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: he was coachable. Park got on him to coach everybody else.

928
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan when he stepped on that floor, you know

929
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get. But you also knew he was

930
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: a pro off the court. He was gonna come in

931
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: in shape, he was gonna be conditioned, and he's gonna

932
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: be ready to go. And he didn't have no ticket

933
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: tack injuries.

934
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 7: It points the finger directed to the player. They gotta

935
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 7: want it, And I believe that he's gonna be in

936
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 7: that room because his talent tells me that he's gonna

937
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 7: be in that room. I believe he wants it. I

938
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: believe the situation will enhance his desire team to prove

939
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 7: people wrong. And I believe that if you are a

940
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 7: general manager, ownership or coach or superstar player playing alongside

941
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 7: of him. You also have the responsibility to hold him

942
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 7: an accountable and to deliver the message to him when

943
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 7: he's falling short from that. And I believe he's gotta

944
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 7: be able to be mad enough to empower those people

945
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 7: to do exactly that, because at the end of the day,

946
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: I know they want what special me, They want one

947
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 7: special me, and it's gonna be much best for this team.

948
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: And ultimately I'm gonna be in that world. But he

949
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 7: doesn't want to do is what you talk about. Put

950
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 7: his head peeking in that room and then he get

951
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 7: most countily, No, he deserves to be in that room

952
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 7: constantly because his talent tells us.

953
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other trade that happened today.

954
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: De Aaron Fox going to the San Antonio Spirst, Zach

955
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: Levin going to the Sacramento King. It seems now it

956
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: seems not guys will sign that first extension, get that

957
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 3: guaranteed money, and then after that, Yeah, they're on the hood.

958
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 3: You see Defox, he's on his way to San Antonio.

959
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 3: He wants to play with Wimby nice squad. There you

960
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: see Zach Levine that has been the report that Zach

961
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: Levine has wanted to get out of Chicago for an

962
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: extended period of time.

963
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: He's reunited with DeMar de Rozan and Sacramento.

964
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: You have to like Sacramento with Malik Monk, DeMar DeRozan,

965
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: Zach Levine, Demontes Sabonis.

966
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: They got a nice squad, Keegan Murray, they got a

967
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: nice squad.

968
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 7: What I like about Sacramento is the Aaron Fox obviously

969
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 7: displayed his willingness to be traded. He let his feelings

970
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 7: be known, and uh, they made a trade, but they

971
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 7: didn't surrender the season. They hadn't got a guy that

972
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 7: can help them immediately. Think a twenty five point score

973
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 7: on Zach Levine that's proven, that's comfortable playing alongside of

974
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 7: Demand de ros So. They have crimental play, great versatility,

975
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 7: great youth, incredible fan base. Then you have some bonus

976
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 7: and keiging Murray. They have talent that still should put

977
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 7: them in the mix playoff time in the Western Conference

978
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 7: and and and still an exciting future moving forward. Whether

979
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 7: zach Lavine ops and or ops out at the end

980
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: of the year, the Aaron Fox goes to a situation

981
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 7: where he's playing with a generational talent in Winby, and

982
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 7: he fits his skill set where he can be creative

983
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 7: on the perimeter, playing pick and roll with him at times,

984
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 7: be aggressive as a scorer, at times, be aggressive as

985
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 7: a facilitator. It's an ideal situation, one thing you touched

986
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 7: on that I still try to figure out as I

987
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 7: spend time by myself today. These dudes are turning down

988
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 7: three hundred million dollars, like give me, give me, give

989
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 7: me my money, give me, give me my money, and

990
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 7: we'll figure out anything else. I have three hundred million dollar.

991
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 7: I don't care how much you made. This is real money.

992
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: Yes, get your money and then find the right situation.

993
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 7: Don't leave it on it. Don't leave money on the team.

994
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 7: I play for the guy that gave back five hundred

995
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: thousand dollars in order to be a free agent at

996
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 7: the end of the year.

997
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: Never recoup.

998
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: And that was that was back in nineteen eighty nine,

999
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety Never got back that five hundred thousand dollars.

1000
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 7: You can't make it back.

1001
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: We talking about now two three hundred million dollars.

1002
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? Get your paper, young fella. I will,

1003
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 7: and I don't want to understate this because fortunately I

1004
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 7: don't know a lot about this, and and shining you

1005
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 7: don't know enough a lot about this. But my guy

1006
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 7: chat Olt, your signal knows enough about it.

1007
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: That's news.

1008
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 7: It can be frustrating at times. At times. I watch

1009
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 7: about Jack. I watched it, and I've seen the frustration

1010
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 7: I seen. I've seen it running routes and playing for

1011
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 7: you know, it was tough at time, and I was

1012
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 7: thrilled and happy. And you got a chance to win

1013
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: and be on the right in the right situation. You

1014
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 7: deserved it. So it can be frustrating and wanting to

1015
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 7: accellent at times. But get your money. One thing about

1016
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 7: my guy Olter, he gets it. He got his money

1017
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 7: and he keeps his money. I'm watching you, jee, let

1018
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 7: me ask you this.

1019
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: We see these things about Zion, and then Zion has

1020
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 3: had and they even worded his contract that he has

1021
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: to be a certain way, he has to have his

1022
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: body percent is down and we've never seen it. Look,

1023
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: he reminds you of a more explosive Charles Barkley, and

1024
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: bark like he had malone. He had those other guys,

1025
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: and he said, mos of malone. Rest his soul, said

1026
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: Charles you fat and you lazy. You got two things

1027
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: you young, you're fat and you're lazy. You got two

1028
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: things working against you. And Barker says, you know what

1029
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: if they get ten He got ten pounds off in

1030
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: like two weeks, and then he got another ten pounds

1031
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: off in a month, and before you know it, Charles

1032
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: will turn himself into an MVP, one of the better

1033
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: power forwards to ever play the game. We see this

1034
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: with Joel.

1035
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Ebid when you get a guy in Bad's size and

1036
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: people don't realize this. The bigger you are, the bigger that.

1037
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: Frame is the wrong way that can hold jack you

1038
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 3: seven foot two, oh, you can easily be four hundred,

1039
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: maybe even five.

1040
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: And when you get hurt during the season, now you

1041
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: can't condition, and so guess what.

1042
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: You're still eating, but you're not practicing, you're not playing,

1043
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: and so guess what you might be two ninety five,

1044
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: three hundred. Next thing you know, you're three ten, you're

1045
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: three twenty, you're three thirty, you're three forty, you're three fifty.

1046
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: Now you go back out there three fifty and you

1047
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: try to run up and down that court, and you

1048
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: jump up your need go out your feet, your ankles,

1049
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: your hips, what do you say to that?

1050
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: Jack?

1051
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 7: Part of it. I blame organizations that allowed him to

1052
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 7: be this way coming in. So I'm trying to be

1053
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 7: your friend and your boy and all love e W

1054
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 7: when you come in instead of saying, okay, these are

1055
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 7: the problems that we foresee. Is what we have to

1056
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 7: do to put your position to succeed from day one.

1057
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 7: I don't care what your bone structure is with your body, fats,

1058
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 7: I know what it should be. They co signed a

1059
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 7: lot of that stuff initially with Zion Williamson saying he

1060
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 7: was heavy boning, you know, and he can only get

1061
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 7: down to a certain boyt of way. No, he's he's

1062
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 7: a he's an incredible young man. He's an incredible talent.

1063
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 7: And you look at his body now, it's different than

1064
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 7: when he came in. So he certainly has a desire

1065
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 7: to get better. I think the biggest, biggest thing for him.

1066
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 7: You compare them to Charld Cockley, and the bodies were similar,

1067
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: but Charles Coffley from day one had to jump. He

1068
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 7: was shooting threes back in eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty so,

1069
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 7: so he was a skill overweight uh performer on the

1070
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 7: basketball flow who had rains Zion Williamson. You're playing against him,

1071
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 7: you can dare him to shoot the jumper. Now can

1072
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 7: he hit it? Yeah, once in a while, and I'm

1073
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 7: saying it's restructed because he's a great player, but he

1074
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 7: has a flaw that can be exposed on the defensive

1075
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 7: side of the floor. You're going against him, especially in

1076
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 7: a playoff series, so that he's got to spend time

1077
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 7: to enhance and protect that side of the floor. And

1078
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 7: it's range. Because he puts his head down, he gets

1079
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 7: anywhere he wants. So now you add a decent jumper

1080
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 7: to that. He's a he's a he's a nightman for

1081
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 7: anybody who defense. We're told about elite players that have

1082
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 7: that have opportunity to make the infernt on this game,

1083
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 7: and it should hurt them when they don't because they're

1084
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 7: not in the best shape they could possibly be in.

1085
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: I still never understand Rudy Gobert got traded for four

1086
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: first round picks. Luka Dante got traded for Anthony Davis

1087
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 3: in one first round pick. I don't know who did. Hey,

1088
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Nico Collins Buss knows something we don't. But Nico has

1089
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: excuse me, Rob Poliker says, thank you. Just imagine that

1090
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: you sitting at home and got a call you're interested

1091
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: in Luca. Heck yeah, tell YEWN. So you don't even

1092
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: have to work. You can win Executive of the Year

1093
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 3: just because you've picked up the phone. Right, Hey, what

1094
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: what statue? What statue out front?

1095
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: You want for Luca?

1096
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: I tell you whatever you need, Hey, Jack, whatever you need,

1097
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: what you need we're talking about We talking about the

1098
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 3: guy thats just after Lebron. He's gonna still be playing.

1099
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: I don't get I don't care how much time you

1100
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: get Lebron. Luca Doctors will still be your franchise player

1101
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: when Lebron asks the building. And that's what you need.

1102
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: If you're a Lake, if you're a Lakers, you gotta

1103
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: have franchise players. They started with Will, with Kareem Shaq, Lebron,

1104
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: and now they got Luca. So they just continue to

1105
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: strength this, uh, this stream of getting elite, multi talented

1106
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: great players to keep this thing for the Lakers going. Jack,

1107
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: we got to get you out here on that well.

1108
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreci

1109
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: your appreciate your insight and talking about this trade and

1110
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: the other trades, Darren Fox going to the Spurs, Zach

1111
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: Lavine going to Sacramento Kings.

1112
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: We'll see you down the road. I appreciate you, Bro,

1113
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: thanks for having me. Legend Oh Joe Luka.

1114
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: Doncic made his debut for the Lakers, has not played

1115
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: since he injured that calf muscle. On Christmas Day, the

1116
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: Lakers defeating the Jazz one thirty two, one thirteen. Luca

1117
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: was warming up. Excuse me, Lebron was warming up with

1118
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: Lucas T shirt. They placed the seventy seven T shirt

1119
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: on all the chairs within the stadium and the pregame,

1120
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Lebron told Luca, Luca be your f himself. Don't fit in,

1121
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: fit the f out the Lakers, who won sixth straight

1122
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: twelve out of fourteen. Overall, Lebron James had twenty four points,

1123
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: eight assists, seven rebounds, Austin Reeves twenty two points, nine rebounds,

1124
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: four exith assist, Ruin Patcha Mora twenty one point six rebounds,

1125
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: Luca limited action fourteen points, five rebounds, four sist, and

1126
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: God won the two way player at seventeen points.

1127
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: The Lakers.

1128
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: The last game before the All Star Break is Wednesday

1129
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: against this very Utah Jazz team. They defeated tonight up

1130
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: in Utah before the All Star break. Let's continue right quick,

1131
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: O Joe. According to Scham, the Hornets exploring disputing the

1132
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: Lakers failed physical on Williams. The Charlotte Harmon's horners have

1133
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: been in contact with the NBA as they explore options

1134
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: to dispute the Lakers failed physical acceptsment oh Mark Williams.

1135
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: Sources tell ESPN Williams Dalton connect trade was next Saturday,

1136
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: and now the Hornet's way avenues to challenge.

1137
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a little later, Oh Joe.

1138
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: I liked what I saw. I don't know if you

1139
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: like what you saw with Luca and not. Look, it's

1140
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: only one game. That's a very very small sample size.

1141
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 3: I like what they Obviously, Luca's gonna start kind of

1142
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: staggering because you want one of those guys to be

1143
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: on the court pretty much at all time. But even

1144
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: if you don't have them on the court, you still

1145
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: have a private ball handled in Austin Reeves. So obviously

1146
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: Lebron can handle the ball, Luca cann't handle the ball.

1147
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 3: But when both of those guys are off the court,

1148
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: if they are off the court. You still have Austin

1149
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: Reeves who could handle the ball, who's playing extremely well,

1150
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: and so I like what I saw, and it's gonna

1151
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: be a lot of staggering.

1152
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: So when Luca goes off the court, Lebron is on.

1153
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: Lebron's off the court, Luca's on, or if both of

1154
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: those guys are off the court, off the court, as

1155
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: I said, Austin.

1156
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: Reeves is on. But I like the way they move

1157
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: the ball. And if you know Luca, Luca can.

1158
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: Get hot and give you twenty twenty five points on

1159
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 3: the corner, but he doesn't have to worry about facilitating

1160
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: because a lot of times when Luca was on the

1161
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: court before he got Kyrie, if Luca went on the

1162
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: hot streak, he still had to worry about getting other

1163
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: people involved. You don't have to worry about that. He

1164
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: has Lebron, he has Austin Reeves. But I like what

1165
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: I saw. And Hayes Jackson Hayes isn't the happiest guy

1166
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 3: because all he's gonna is getting lobbed dunks.

1167
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: Now, it ain't gonna work, but definitely did anyway.

1168
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: But he's gonna average probably about fourteen points a game,

1169
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: getting six or seven lob dunks again, So I like

1170
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: what I saw early on.

1171
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: Although it's a very very small sample size.

1172
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: That listen, Even though it's a small samblicide, you can

1173
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: tell that the future is gonna be very bright for

1174
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

1175
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: Now.

1176
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: I know people don't want to you don't want to

1177
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: get too happy they are playing the Utah Jazz. But

1178
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: obviously you understand how dynamic you know, Bron and Luca

1179
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: are playing together. Even though the simple sizes is small,

1180
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: especially with the IQ that Luca has, especially the IQ

1181
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: with the IQ that Lebron Lebron as as well. The

1182
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: spacing obviously with Luca and Brown in the court was awesome.

1183
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: You can tell that Reason is gonna be able to

1184
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: eat as long as as well as everybody else.

1185
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: So I'm listen.

1186
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Lakers. I don't think I still

1187
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's enough to be able to compete and

1188
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: contend for a title. I still think they need another piece.

1189
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. You gonna you could tell me

1190
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: you would know bet better than I can. I still

1191
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: think there would be you would need another piece to

1192
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: add to them, to that puzzle to be able to

1193
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: challenge out there in the way.

1194
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: Bitty the big.

1195
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 3: The only the only big that have is Jackson Hayes,

1196
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's enough. You only want to

1197
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: play Jackson Hayes somewhere between, you know, fourteen twenty minutes

1198
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: a night. He's not a guy that you're gonna run

1199
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: out there and play twenty five thirty minutes, thirty five

1200
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: minutes a night.

1201
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: That's not what he is.

1202
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: That's not He's not been that player in his NBA career.

1203
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: So you probably need another big. That's why they tried

1204
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: to change for the Williams kid. But as I was

1205
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: reading earlier, O Joe, he failed a physical go ahead, And.

1206
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Now I have a question when it comes when it

1207
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: comes to feeling on physical is it du pass injuries

1208
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: or does he actually have an injury right now to

1209
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: where he couldn't pass it?

1210
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know what that works? Oh sure, you know

1211
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: what happened.

1212
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: When they bring you in there, they test you out,

1213
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: They start pulling on your joints and your shoulders, and

1214
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: you need and twist. Oh right, Uh, it's you. Okay,

1215
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: They give you MRI, they give you all, you know,

1216
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: all that other stuff. But here's a guy that's been

1217
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: you know he kind of has a injury yestory. Okay,

1218
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: so I don't know what why y'all so anxious to

1219
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: get up up If he's so good, y'all welcome been by,

1220
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: right right, clear.

1221
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: Clearly there's more than what's going on.

1222
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, we thought we had another shooter, uh,

1223
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: because we know what Dalvin was he had.

1224
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: He's kind of cooled off a lot early on. He

1225
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: was he was really letting it fly.

1226
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: Had some big games shooting the three ball for the Lakers,

1227
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: can put the ball on the floor, can finish at

1228
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: the rim. I know the Lakers really like him, but

1229
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to give up something to get something,

1230
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: and they realized they needed a big Luca likes playing

1231
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: with ver athletic bigs because he can get into the paint.

1232
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: He can dish it, dish it a lot of lob dunks.

1233
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: Look go look at Lily, Go look at Daniel Gaffer.

1234
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: Look at the guys that he's played with. Guys get

1235
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: a lot of easy baskets because hey, he's gonna get

1236
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: into the paint because he can change speeds.

1237
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: He's really herky jerky.

1238
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: But right now, I think that's the thing that they're

1239
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: missing they're getting better at shooting the ball from outside.

1240
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: Gabe Vinson is getting better at shooting the three ball.

1241
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: He's finally getting his legs back. Last year was a

1242
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: wash year for him, and he's finally starting to shoot

1243
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: like the Gabe Vincent that we saw his last year

1244
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: in Miami when he really let the ball fly, help

1245
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: that team get to the NBA Finals, end up losing

1246
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: to the Nuggets. Austin Reeves has been on a tear lately.

1247
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: He's been unbelievable. He's just getting better and better and

1248
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: better every year.

1249
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: Would I be.

1250
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: Surprised eventually if he's not an All Star? I can

1251
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: see it happening.

1252
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1253
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard because he has Luca and he

1254
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: has Lebron on his team. But here's the thing, O Joe,

1255
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna be getting the third best defender. You've got

1256
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: to give one of your best defenders, especially with the wing.

1257
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: He's gotta guard Luca, he's gotta guard Lebron. So now

1258
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: it's kind of like that third receiver if you got

1259
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: two dogs outside that third receiver, like bag, Hey.

1260
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Y'all give me the third or fourth corner. Oh, I'm

1261
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: definitely gonna eat now you're gonna eatna eat Ruey.

1262
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: There's another guy that's gonna get big because both Lebron,

1263
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: because they're big guards can see over the defense, so

1264
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: they can penetrate, skip pass, hammer, pass over the top.

1265
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter to them. And we know they

1266
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: both can score.

1267
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: Luca has the highest the third highest scoring average in

1268
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: NBA history at almost twenty nine points a game, behind Jordan,

1269
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: behind Will. When it comes to the playoffs, he has

1270
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: the second highest scoring average, behind only Michael Jordan. So

1271
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: that just lets you know what a proficion guy he

1272
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: is at scoring the basketball. And so you look at

1273
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: a guy that's average and basically twenty nine to eight

1274
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: to eight, which is crazy, and he won't be twenty

1275
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: six until the twenty eighth of this month. So the

1276
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: Laker has someone to win Lebron to finally decides if

1277
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 3: and when that's gonna be, because this is gonna take

1278
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure off Lebron o Jo because he's

1279
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: not gonna have the workload of having to bring the

1280
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: ball up the course. He's not gonna have the workload

1281
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: of trying to have to facilitate for everybody else. Luca

1282
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: is gonna take a lot of pressure off Lebron. See

1283
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: Lebron now play another.

1284
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Two to three years, right, you know what you're saying

1285
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: that we talk about, you know, Luca taking some of

1286
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: the pressure off Lebron obviously Luca and some of the

1287
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: pressures taking off him as even he is as efficient

1288
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: as he is, he had to squad around him that

1289
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: where he doesn't have to do all.

1290
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: The work he has he has.

1291
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Hella athletes a lot of players around with length, and

1292
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be going to be a

1293
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: great addition. I think they just need a big They

1294
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: need it big, and if they get it big, now,

1295
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many how many viable options out

1296
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: there that can come in and and you can plug

1297
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: and play and make a difference.

1298
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: Right now, now they're not a whole where you can't

1299
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 3: trade for anybody, So anybody's going to be basically streaked

1300
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 3: free agents or maybe somebody get cut and you're able

1301
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: to bring the man like that.

1302
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: But I know they were looking at back.

1303
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: If they're getting cut, there's there's not much they can

1304
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: do for you.

1305
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: But but no that, but Luca and Lebron can bring

1306
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: it out of them because everybody ain't got a Luca

1307
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: and Lebron, but you know they were looking at Valanchounis.

1308
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: They looked at Walker Kessler, who's on the Utah Jazz.

1309
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: But seemingly the Jazz wanted more than what the Lakers

1310
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: were willing to part ways with. The only guys are

1311
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: out there available. I think that Jabel McGee. I think

1312
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: Alex lenn Dwight Howard. I don't know what hold is.

1313
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: Dwight probably a year younger than Lebron because he was

1314
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: he was in the the the draft class after Lebron. Okay,

1315
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: so I'm thinking he came straight out of high school. Also,

1316
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: so he should probably be a year younger, a year

1317
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: younger than Lebron.

1318
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: Lebron, but you're only acting can you can?

1319
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: And Dwhite keeps himself in great shape, The question is

1320
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: can he I believe he can give you twenty minutes

1321
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: a night? I and Jackson Hayes alternating, you know there's

1322
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: gonna be sometimes they go with a small lineup.

1323
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: But the question is can those guys.

1324
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: Between the two of them, can they give you twenty

1325
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: twenty four minutes a night. I believe they can, but

1326
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 3: they definitely need to remember big Jackson Haydes is not

1327
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: nearly enough. Like I said, you don't want to play

1328
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: him a ton of minutes. He's an energy guy. He's

1329
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: gonna block some shots, he'll challenge some stuff at the rim.

1330
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 3: But he's a good role player. And the thing is

1331
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: you don't have to run plays for him because you don't.

1332
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: You got enough scoring. You don't need the other guys

1333
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: that you have to run play for. You got Luca,

1334
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 3: you got Lebron, you got Austin Reeves that can score.

1335
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 3: You got Ruined, you got four guys that can score.

1336
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: Now you need big. I ain't got to run no

1337
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: place for you. Get it off the rim, footbacks, lobs,

1338
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: Can you rebound? O? Can You're challenge stuff at the rim?

1339
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 3: Because when you give them up Anthony Davis, you give

1340
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: up one of the premium defensive players and one of

1341
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: the premire defensive players. But he's one of the best

1342
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: two way players also that's in the game. But you

1343
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: gave that up because he was your last lot of defense.

1344
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: He did a lot of covering up. Anthony Davis is

1345
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: like makeup and all them that's your fault, the blemishes

1346
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: that you have. He could cover it up. And so

1347
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: that's what that's what you need. That's what you need,

1348
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: is so Knjackson at blocks shots. Yeah, we know, d

1349
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: White know Javel McGee can challenge shots. We don't know

1350
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: how much tread they got, but uh, look, you don't

1351
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 3: need You're not gonna get a your.

1352
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: Kitchen, so who I do?

1353
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: So stop looking at something, right, So you just have

1354
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: to basically hope that one of these guys that they're

1355
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: able to secure can give you valuable minutes because Luca

1356
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: and eight and Lebron is gonna give you plenty.

1357
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: Now when now, I obviously don't know. I don't know

1358
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: how basketball works to the extend that you do during

1359
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: this during this break, during this All Star break. Isn't

1360
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: that the time you want to already have a big

1361
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: coming in at that point so you can hit the

1362
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: ground running when you come out of the All Star

1363
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: break and having a big you know, go to go

1364
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: with everybody else.

1365
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the question is is that Rob is

1366
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: probably scowling here and they're looking at But like I said,

1367
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: there's not.

1368
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: A whole lot out there.

1369
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: It's not like you got a cream of a crop

1370
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: work in a litter, so you only got a handful

1371
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: of guys out there. Javel McGee has familiarity with the

1372
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: little Lakers. D white House has familiarity with the Lakers.

1373
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 3: I don't believe anybody else is gonna be get cut

1374
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: or get on. Excuse I say cut a buy out,

1375
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: I see, I don't really see any bos happening. I

1376
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: think Alex Lynn is available. He's another big Like I said,

1377
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get somebody that's a double double machine.

1378
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: Most of the guys gonna have older. Javel McGee is

1379
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: a little older. D white House a little older. Javel

1380
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: probably can give you, I will say, somewhere fifteen sixteen

1381
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: minutes a night. The white maybe a little more sixteen

1382
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: to eighteen minutes a night. But maybe that's all you need.

1383
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that they don't give you much on

1384
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 3: the office end of the ball.

1385
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: No you got if you don't.

1386
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: If Lebron James, that averages twenty five, Luca, that's averaging

1387
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: twenty eight. Off the Reeves, that's averaging twenty he Ruin

1388
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: that's average sixteen. If that's not enough with today, okay considered,

1389
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: hope your bitch gave Vinson can continue to get better

1390
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: and better.

1391
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: I like this good one kid that I saw good

1392
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: one Godwin. The kid that I saw tonight that came

1393
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: up the bench. He's a scorer.

1394
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: You can tell what he gets the ball's ads. He's

1395
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: looking to get to the basket. He's looking to put

1396
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: the ball in the basket. So I like what I

1397
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: saw with him. I don't want to get too carried away.

1398
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: Like I said, Utah wasn't playing any defense tonight. But

1399
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: if you look at him, I followed him last couple

1400
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: of games. He can put the ball in the basket,

1401
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: and he can put the ball in the basket at

1402
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: an elite clip. Van Do's not gonna give you much

1403
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: on the offensive end, but he's a defensive guy. Phinny Smith.

1404
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: He's streaking, he can get hot. He can hit you

1405
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: about three or four threes in the game. But you're

1406
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: looking for him to defend at an elite level on

1407
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: the defensive night. So Van Do, Phinney Smith that those

1408
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: are your defensive guys. Jackson Hayes is a guy that

1409
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: can challenge at the rim. Gave Vincent he's another defensive guy.

1410
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: So look, when you got Austin Reeves, guy's gonna go

1411
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: at alstere Reeves. They're gonna attack him. Guys are gonna

1412
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: attack Luca. They know Lebron cannot exert that kind of

1413
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: defensive energy on a night. Yeah yeah, so somebody's gonna

1414
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: have to defend somebody. But you'd have to defend those

1415
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: guys also, because you got three guys that can put

1416
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: the ball in the basket at an elite level.

1417
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: Like I said, I love the way Alston Reeves has

1418
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: gotten better, better, better better. We know what Lebron is,

1419
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: we know what Luke is.

1420
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: The question is can they add another piece, which I

1421
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: believe will be a big that can give them enough offense,

1422
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: which you don't need much. Can you give us eight points?

1423
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: Again?

1424
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: But what we need is defense. Can you rebound? Can

1425
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 3: you defend? Can you challenge? Can you clog the paint?

1426
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: And I believe if they get that, I think they'll

1427
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: be okay. But this, like I said, they tried to

1428
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: rescind this trade. I'm not sure. Look, the guy has

1429
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: it had, he's had some injuries, and I mean he's

1430
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: a big guy. Oh Joe, he give you sixteen points.

1431
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: I think he's almost see a double double, but he's

1432
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: injured and most time, every once in a while, if

1433
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: they really want a guy I remember, I think was

1434
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: last year maybe yeah, maybe a year and a half ago.

1435
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: The Warriors they traded for Garrett Payton the second he

1436
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: was injured. He failed and physical, but they really liked

1437
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: it because they had had him before, helped him with

1438
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 3: right and so they knew if they were getting and say, you.

1439
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: Know what, we'll go ahead, don't worried about it. Yes,

1440
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: he felt, we'll work with him. We'll let him take

1441
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: because here's the thing on Joe, I'm not trading for

1442
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna he injured. And I gotta wait, No, bro,

1443
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: I need I need, I need you to get I

1444
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: need you to go.

1445
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: And I think that we happened with Anthony Davis because

1446
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: Anthony was a d was hurt and he was like okay,

1447
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: and he came maybe came back a little bit too soon,

1448
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: and so now he tweaked that a doctor and now

1449
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna be out so extended time. And I just

1450
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: saw they lost Daniel Gaffer to night. So two of

1451
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: the three bigs they lost. Now, hey, go ahead.

1452
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, you know it's funny when I think about

1453
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: do you think Anthony davis injury history played a part

1454
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: in letting them go and not really, not really not

1455
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to say not caring, but understanding that

1456
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: they could get Luca and had no problem letting Anthony

1457
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: Davis go simply because of his injury.

1458
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: Cause, if Anthony Davis was one hundred percent healthy and

1459
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: played all the game like Ac Green, you're not passing

1460
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 3: up an opportunity to get Luca Dontec twenty five years

1461
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: of age, averaging twenty nine points.

1462
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: A game, eight rebounds, nine assists.

1463
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: You're not giving that up. There's never been a trade

1464
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: like this before, Oh Joe, There's never been a trade

1465
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: like this.

1466
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: Not it. First of all, is there a trade comparable?

1467
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Is there a football trade comparable to the Anthony Luka

1468
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 1: Danti's trade or is nothing even closer?

1469
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: No, because what happened if you go back and look

1470
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: at the trades.

1471
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: If you say, what about Kareem, Kareem wanted to be out,

1472
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: He wanted to leave and come to LA Actually Kareem

1473
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: really wanted to go to New York, but he ended

1474
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: up going to the Lakers. With that being said, right,

1475
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 3: Luca is twenty five and he didn't ask to be traded.

1476
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis asked to be traded. Guys have asked in

1477
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: their prime to be traded. Luca is twenty five, five

1478
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: times first team All NBA, led the league in scoring,

1479
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year.

1480
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 2: They didn't ask and they moved in.

1481
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot I don't if you really

1482
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: think about it, there's not a whole lot of guys

1483
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 3: that you're probably not gonna move in for. You're not

1484
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: gonna move in for the Yoke, You're not gonna move

1485
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 3: in for Shay. I don't know if they're moving for

1486
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum because they like that that mesh. But other

1487
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 3: than that, if the Nico Collins would have took that

1488
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: to the Warriors and say give us.

1489
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: Kd may or Steph Curtz. Step Scheff is not going anywhere,

1490
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: Oka Yef, He's not going anywhere.

1491
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 3: No, Stephan is not going to there. Joe Lukimmer is

1492
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: not Joe Lekaim is not going doing that that deal.

1493
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: But but we talked about it. What the owners said

1494
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: is like, Okay, we put the pulled on miss power back.

1495
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: Y'all got too much y'all and where y'all want to

1496
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 3: go and who y'all want and yelling and knowing on

1497
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: this agreement that that a that's said shock wave, because

1498
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 3: do you hear all the players talking like, hey, let

1499
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: us know it.

1500
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: Everybody is touchable, you.

1501
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: Know it, lets us know everybody's touchable. But we still

1502
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what happened. We still don't know exactly

1503
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: what happened. Where you're getting off a player that's been

1504
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: putting up the numbers, he's been putting up as consistently

1505
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: as he has, despite despite the injury and not playing

1506
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: since you know, December. Something else is going on behind

1507
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, huh, especially for a player that's eligible

1508
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: for a super max you know, five year through forty

1509
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: five whatever, whatever, whatever the numbers may have been.

1510
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: If you're that good, if that good, how do you

1511
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: let someone go like that? What is going on behind

1512
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: closed doors?

1513
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: Where you let him go knowing that you're not going

1514
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: to be able to replace that type of productivity. You're

1515
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: not going to but you know, I mean, I mean

1516
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: you can get something for but it just is not

1517
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: the same.

1518
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 3: Luca doncis this summer's in line to get five years,

1519
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty five, three hundred and fifty million dollars,

1520
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: that's seventy million dollars a year. Normally, if somebody's getting

1521
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: that kind of man. You don't want to have any questions.

1522
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't want no injury history. I don't want a

1523
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 3: guy that I have to motivate to do what he

1524
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: needs to do. What second, that's a lot of money,

1525
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: oh Joe, and so what A lot of the players

1526
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: are thinking, well, right to keep somebody from getting that

1527
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: SuperMac contract.

1528
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: If I trade him, now I saved. Somebody else has

1529
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: to deal with that.

1530
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: But still even if you saved, that means they still

1531
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: can't get the SuperMac when you once you get traded,

1532
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: because now that original team doesn't don't have the bird rights.

1533
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: I haven't question if you think of a player that's

1534
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: that good, a player that's that dynamic. Now I'm not

1535
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: even speaking Lucas you know in this sense that's that great.

1536
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: Right with every great player, aren't there some type of

1537
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: issues internally?

1538
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: Now? I don't think.

1539
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: Think about some of the stories, think about some of

1540
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: the stories. As great as Kobe was, as the greatest

1541
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was, do you think everything was always perfect?

1542
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: Well, there was no injury.

1543
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: Boy, because I think that what was going on and

1544
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: the issues they had with with Luca, it had nothing

1545
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: to do with what he does on the right.

1546
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: I think the thing was is that the one thing,

1547
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: no matter what you thought was they were too driven,

1548
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 3: they were too motivated, right, they came in shape and

1549
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 3: basketball was the end all be all right, And so

1550
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 3: if you're investing that kind of money, you need basketball

1551
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: to be the end all be all. Now, like I said,

1552
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: uh maybe, and plus o Joe, I need to wrestle

1553
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 3: some of this power back because Luca is so powerful

1554
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: in that organization.

1555
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: If I give him this money, he's damn near the owner.

1556
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: You don't get made it worse.

1557
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: And so that seems to me. Excuse me, excuse me.

1558
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: I hate to cut you off.

1559
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: Do you see the kind of money NBA players make. Yeah,

1560
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: for sure, even if he didn't get the super Max,

1561
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: he's still making fuck you money.

1562
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, my bad, My bad, God, dog, get my bad.

1563
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's making a few money. Yes,

1564
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: you know, all the players you know in the NBA

1565
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: are making a few money. So now NBA owner trying

1566
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: to find a way to you know what, we're gonna

1567
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: pull and take some of this power back. Well it's

1568
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: too late now, it's too late. Based on the kind

1569
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 1: of money they're making. Everything is guaranteed. Yes, everything's guaranteed,

1570
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: because there's really nothing they can do.

1571
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, though, O Joe, the players gonna

1572
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: be on their best behavior because three fifty, now you

1573
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: go down to two twenty nine.

1574
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: Don't do me like that.

1575
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: I just said, that's what.

1576
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: Nine. What is it that I can't do with two

1577
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: twenty nine that I can do with three?

1578
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: Fit out?

1579
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: I can do just about the same thing.

1580
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: That's the same thing that you said with the NFL players.

1581
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 3: What can I do with seventy five million that I

1582
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: can do with fifty? That's a bit Think about it,

1583
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: and you leave Texas with no state income tax to

1584
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: go to New y go to California where there's a

1585
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: thirteen percent tax rate. Right, Luca is a global star

1586
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 3: and you gave him up and put him in the

1587
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: biggest market for the next decade. This is the Lakers.

1588
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: This is what they always do. This is what they've

1589
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 3: always done. Go back and look at the Lakers history.

1590
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: It started out when they got Will and then they

1591
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: got Kareem. They got Bob McAdoo, they got Shot, they

1592
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: got Lebron, they got Anthony Davis, and now they got Luca.

1593
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: This is what they do right, So.

1594
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: People shouldn't be support The only thing that I think

1595
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: the only thing the NBA owners are upset about, Bro,

1596
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 3: you ain't open it up. Do you know what Luca

1597
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 3: would have commanded?

1598
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: Or if everyone had a chance to get Ben went

1599
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: for four first round picks?

1600
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 7: Four?

1601
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: Do you know what Luca dutcha to twenty five year

1602
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: old global international superstar?

1603
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: So that means that means Nico Collins and Rob Clinker

1604
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: had some where they were in cahoots, behind behind, behind

1605
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: closed doors, obviously not letting anybody know what they were

1606
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: gonna do, simply because it's the Lakers. Where else would

1607
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: you want to go but the Lakers, if they have

1608
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: to make a splash, they have to have a superstar.

1609
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: But the Laker ain't had the best I bet you,

1610
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: I guarantee you if they had to open this thing up,

1611
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: Lakers wouldn't have come close to.

1612
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: The best package.

1613
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely what Rob Lincoln was Kobe's agent, Nico Kalin

1614
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: a Nike work with Kobe, with your work with Lebron

1615
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 3: you see with now Hopefully if people are understanding it's

1616
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: all about relationships, I can't.

1617
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: Tell her, y'all. Oh, it ain't about this is about that. No,

1618
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: it's not Rob and Nico had a relationship. I like that.

1619
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: It's this.

1620
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: I like this and say, you know, you know, it's funny.

1621
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 7: You know what I do like.

1622
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: I like also is we need to be a little

1623
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: bit more and I'm asking for this. I'm asking for this.

1624
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: We need a little bit be a little bit.

1625
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 1: More active on the basketball then, because now that football

1626
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: season's open. Look guess where I'm gonna be at watching

1627
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: the game court side. I'm not watching the game home.

1628
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: Want for the use some of this night cab money,

1629
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: but I'm going to sit court side.

1630
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm saving. I'm saving my money where you're going.

1631
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm saving now you want to save.

1632
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm appreciing you about saving all that.

1633
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: I ain't got no big change. I ain't got no

1634
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: big eighty four I want. I stopped on night Cap Live.

1635
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: I ain't got that five briefless, Wait a minute, hold on,

1636
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: hold on. I had to prepare myself for live shows.

1637
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: We have a tour. We have a tour coming up.

1638
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: So that's my stuff presently for the tour.

1639
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: Now I can put that.

1640
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: I put that away and that's not coming out again

1641
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: until April when it's time to go on said tour. Now, listen,

1642
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: you have to understand now, pat Riley and I have

1643
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: a relationship. Mickey Rrison and I have a relationship. I

1644
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: have a relationship with banned by the Budio. I'm going

1645
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: to sit courtside next to the Lakers, next down, next

1646
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: to the Lakers, next to the heat bench. That's only

1647
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars. That's just I don't no disrespect to

1648
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: anybody in his head. I'm not saying it's a drop

1649
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: dropping the bucket for fifteen hundred dollars, I could that's

1650
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: feasible for me for the rest of the season after

1651
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: all start break. Oh well, I can get it better

1652
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, watching it up close,

1653
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: being able to talk it. So I can sound like you,

1654
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: So I can sound like Steven. I could sound like

1655
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: Malika Andrews, you know, so I can sound like uh Perkins.

1656
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, all.

1657
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: Right, give me, give me, give me three weeks.

1658
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: Watch how it sound I am. But yeah, I mean

1659
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: I like what the Lakers have done.

1660
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: I like Lebron, But like I said, I can see

1661
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 3: Lebron playing two or three years for the simple fact

1662
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: the work low that he won the question is his

1663
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 3: mind like you said, because he's Lebron James and he's

1664
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 3: been great since he stepped foot in the NBA, and

1665
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 3: if there's.

1666
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: Any point in time that he can't be great, he'll

1667
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: walk away. Just like Tom Brady.

1668
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: Tom realized Tom Tom Brady great. See people like, well Tom,

1669
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 3: look at Tom's numbers. But Tom, when you are a

1670
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 3: great player, you only get compared to a younger self.

1671
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: You don't get compared to the other players. Aaron Rodgers.

1672
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 5: Right, when you look at Aaron Rodgers numbers, they weren't

1673
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 5: that bad, but you're comparing Aaron to the young Aaron.

1674
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 5: When he was throwing forty five touchdowns with four picks,

1675
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 5: he was thirty eight touchdowns with three picks.

1676
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 3: He was this and that that MVP. When you're great,

1677
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: it's hard for you to be anything other than great, right,

1678
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: and now all the sudden people look at it like, damn,

1679
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm a rig.

1680
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard.

1681
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: It's just like when some people having a large sum

1682
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: of money and all of a sudden they don't have

1683
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: that no more, O Joe. They don't know how to

1684
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: behave Like I had all this money, I've had millions,

1685
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions, billions, And now I just got you

1686
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: a billionaire.

1687
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, all you got this two

1688
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. Who man, two hundred millions me and

1689
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: you are two hundred Be like, sign me up. Well

1690
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: that's where you've had billions. That's a whole difference

1691
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 1: The volume