1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: What Is Up? Everybody? Three and Out podcast, super Bowl 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Week Live from My house. It did not make the 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl this week or this year like last year, 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: which was awesome, but no dice, you know, Corona restrictions 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: with the players and coaches. It just it doesn't make 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: any sense. Really didn't, you know, never even looked into it. 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I just fall in the league this year and watching 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: the way other media people it didn't add up. So 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: we will just live in and chart from the home base. Luckily, 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. There was this guy named 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. He was traded for a guy named Jared Goff, 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: and all these picks. We will, of course dive into 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: that every single angle. Several teams, as Albert Brier and 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Peter King were reporting that we're in on the mix 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: for a lot of picks and first rounders and maybe 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: not first rounders. I'll give my take on the teams 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: that didn't get them and kind of where they go 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: from here, and then we'll hit on some other stories 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: like Sirianni's disaster press conference, Tom Brady says he wants 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: to play before h past, and a bunch of other stuff. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Gudakins on Rogers and of course leave a review if 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: you could. Three and Out podcast. If you listen on 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: Collins Feed, greatly appreciate that. Also three and Out podcast 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: separate feed and and Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: is the Instagram handle you guys know, the drill. Leave 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: a direct message they called d ms, some call it 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: sliding into the d m s and I will answer 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: it here on the show, or I'll answer it manually 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: with you, which is basically like text messaging, so we'll 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: just text back and forth. Either way, we'll do some interaction. 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: But let's start with the trade and my overall like 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: whenever there's a trade, this is why I love pro 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: football because with free agency and the draft and any trades, 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: any transaction action, it is an economic exercise. It's all 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: about the value. The value in the player, the value 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: in the assets giving up for the team acquiring said player, 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: the value in what other teams were willing to pay. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: It's fascinating and nothing is more fascinating than a quarterback trade. 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: We've seen several high you know, priced, big blue chip 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: names traded over the last couple of years, right from 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Digs last year to Jalen Ramsey to Jamal Adams to 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Khalil Macknett in first round picks and second round picks. 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: So we have a pretty good idea. If you want 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: to Jamal Adams, if you wanted Jalen Ramsey, what the 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: bidding price is? Right? Two ones and a two. That's 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: the going rate for a pro Bowl level player. Like 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: it or not, It's just it's the precedent. I'm not 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer. They used that word a lot. The precedent 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: has been set. It's why Deshaun Watson is so fascinating. 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: It's like, is he really gonna cost four ones? I'm 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: pretty sure you could only trade first round picks or 52 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: just picks in general four years out, so that's the 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: max you can trade besides clearly players. But we'll see 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: on that one. I'm not as sold as he's gonna 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: get traded because this is not the National Basketball Association. 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: Agents don't dictate the terms. And I have a hard 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: time seeing Cassirio getting pushed around, not because I think Casserrio, 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: some big, bad, tough guy, was some rumors might be 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: a burner account going around, either by Jack easter By 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: or Nick Casserrio. Either way, he's spent twenty years with Belichick. 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I also know the way 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: gms think, and I'm sure many people listening to if 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: you just follow the league, how often do you see 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: four first rounders traded? So I think we can pump 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the brakes on that trade a little bit. Feels a 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: little more social media driven than reality driven. But the 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Stafford trade, to me, was fascinating. Here's the number one 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: thing you have to realize. If I'm offering you ten 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars right now, that is worth more than ten 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in two and a half years. Right. Anyone 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: that's taken finance classes, time value money, money now more 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: powerful than money later. And the way picks are valued. 73 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: And I talked to several lucky enough to know people 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: that are in charge of the salary camp and in 75 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: charge of the trade charts, and they will tell you 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: a first round pick this year. So if I'm the 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Panthers or I'm the Niners and I give pick eight 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: or I give pick twelve for Matt Stafford the Lions, 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: that pick is viewed as on right, you are getting 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: my first round this year, and you could use it 81 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: on a player. Well, like the Rams. They gave first 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand twenty two and a first 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand twenty three. Unlike my money analogy, 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: the the amount is not set because it's dictated on 85 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: a roster. Right, this is basic football. You guys all 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: know that we don't know where the pick is gonna be. 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: But I think we have a pretty good idea based 88 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: on history that the Rams are gonna be really good 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: and the pick is gonna be in the twenties. But 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: what the pick in two thousand twenty two, So the 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: first rounder they got in two years is viewed as 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: give or take, depending on who you talk to, about 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: eighty five percent of the first rounder this year and 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: the pick in three years technically two and a half 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty three is viewed at about seventy percent 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: based on the trade value chart. I saw Peter King 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: writing about it. Jimmy Johnson just viewed if it's a 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: first rounder next year, that's basically a second rounder in 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: present value. It's a little more complicated than that, but 100 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: you get my drift. So they are not trading quote 101 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: unquote three first rounders. I mean they're getting three first rounders. 102 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: But when they're based two years away. That is not 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the value to me the Lions. 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: They basically here's what I don't understand about this, and 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I've used this. I used this on my other podcast, 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: uses tweeting about it and on Instagram and all these places. 107 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm calling this an inside job, and that sounds like 108 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm diminishing the transaction. I just don't think this transaction 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: happens anywhere else because there's not a team that's not 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: only gonna take Jared Goff, but take all the money 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: forty five whatever plus million dollars for the next couple 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: of years. Because the Rams they got to buy Matt 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Stafford with a credit card, and unlike credit cards that 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: me and you pay for, we get churched interest, no 115 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: interest for the ramps they get Matt Stafford, they get 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: to put them on layaway. Meanwhile, the team with the 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: powerful asset, the one that people were lined up to 118 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: get Matt Stafford, paid cash. They don't get anything now, 119 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and they're paying cash for Jared Goff. To be completely cannon, 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't really understand the trade, and I know people 121 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: like Peter Schreeker, who's locked in say there was a 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: market for Jared Goff. And I don't pretend to know 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: everyone in the league. Hell, I know you know a 124 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: smaller percentage of people in the league, but I know 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: people that are in the Super Bowl, people that are 126 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: on teams that need a quarterback. I have a pretty 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: good variety of friends on different level of teams. Every 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: single person I asked, they go, yeah, Jared Goff has 129 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: not been good the last couple of years. Below average player. 130 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: One person used just a guy that's not even that's 131 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: just talking about the player not factoring in the contract. 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Who the hell was gonna take Jared Goff? The Rams 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: or excuse me, the Lions. And as someone who used 134 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: to work in the league in the money in the 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: finance department, right with the cap and stuff, told me, 136 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. Salary cap space 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: is an asset. The Colts used it forever. You can 138 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: roll it over, So next year or in two years, 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: you can roll over space and use that. Maybe you're good. 140 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Maybe then you can do a move where you can 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: acquire DeAndre Hopkins and Stefon Diggs, uh Jamal Adams with 142 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: one of your several picks. Cap space is valuable. You 143 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: don't just waste cap space right unless you're taking you 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: want a good player. Jared Goff is not a good 145 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: player right now. And the Rams this is the easiest 146 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: deal they're ever gonna do. I mean, it's just they 147 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: got Matt Stafford for first round picks they do not 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: care about. But the Lions paid cash when they had 149 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: the most important asset. I also have a hard time 150 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: understanding all first rounders are not equal, right. I remember 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: last year when the Buckner trade went down. I think 152 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: it was picked thirteen for DeForest Buckner. By then we 153 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: knew the picks for Khalil Mack. They were both picks 154 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: in the twenties. I think one was twenty four and 155 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the other was twenty uh could be misremembering. And I 156 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: remember someone in the league texting me and said, basically, 157 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the Niners pick thirteen, given the two picks that the 158 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: Raiders got for Khalil Mack in the first round, were 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: borderline equal to each other. Because picks as you start 160 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: getting in the top fifteen, think about this pick eight. 161 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: If the Carolina Panthers offered pick eight, and that's been 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: reported by Albert Brier, I think it's true. Props to 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: David Tepper and Matt Rule. David Tepper didn't make all 164 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: these billions of dollars. Matt Rule didn't leave a pretty 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: good job at Baylor making seven eight million dollars to lose. 166 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: They put they put all their chips in the middle 167 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: of the table said, hey, Detroit, you're ready to roll, 168 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: We'll give you pick eight. I think it's a fair 169 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: assumption unless the disaster happens, which I have a hard 170 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: time seeing because all these sweet players are under contract. 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: But the key with the Rams they have a good coach. 172 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: The coach all he does is win. Now, he may 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: not win the Super Bowl, and every level one it's 174 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl bust. Is it super Bowl or bust? The 175 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Rams have been a unbelievable success since Sean McVeigh has 176 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: got there. I think he's forty three and twenty one. 177 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: He has more than double the amount of wins of 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: games he's coached. He's won three playoff games. I love 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shannon has two playoff wins. Sean McVeigh, 180 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: for example, if you just put him and Kyle Shanahan 181 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: next to each other, one guy has made the playoffs 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: three or four years. The other guys made it one 183 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: out of the four years they've both been in the 184 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So if those two canceled out, the other 185 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: guys made Super Bowl or excuse me, made the playoffs 186 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: a munch. Sean mcveigh's big time. He's not gonna lose 187 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: unless just a catastrophe happens. But even I think if 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: John Woolford was his quarterback for like eight games, he'd 189 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: find a way to go like three or four wins. 190 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: So when you get offered the eighth pick, if both 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: mcveigh's picks are in the mid twenties, and I think 192 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: it's fair to say he's it's been in the mid 193 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: twenties too in the last four years. Stafford is an 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: upgrade over Jared Goff, those two picks will not equal 195 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the eighth pick, let alone, when you factor in the 196 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: future value of those picks that are discounted, one anent 197 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: clip and the other give or take seventy five to 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: seventy percent. It's just bad business. It's what I get 199 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: back to the term it was an inside job. There 200 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: was another team that I like would have been beaten 201 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: down the doors for Jared Goff and not forcing the 202 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Rams to eat to any of the money. Yeah, we'll 203 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: take it all. Give us all is guaranteed money the 204 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Rams got away from paying the guy, like forty four 205 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: more million dollars guaranteed the next couple of years. How's 206 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: that possible? I don't I still don't understand it. Now. 207 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I applaud the Ramps. They take huge swings. Let's get 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: into them. I've seen many people draft, people on Twitter, 209 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: people on ESPN saying it's reckless, saying you can't do this, 210 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Why the hell not? It's literally working. What what do 211 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: you often hear? Like coaches say or business leaders say, 212 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: there are several ways you know to skin a cat, right, 213 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: you're not. We're not that. There are several ways to 214 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: get to your destination in football. Not all teams are 215 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: built the same way. Some teams, you know, draft Tom Brady. 216 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: Some teams like the Saints, signed Drew Brees. There there 217 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: are just several ways to build it. Some teams always 218 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: trade first round picks, some teams horde picks. Every year 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: we see different type teams make it to the dance. 220 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: And what the Rams are doing right now is one working. 221 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: They literally with their backup quarterback who got hurt in 222 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: the game, and then we're forced to play a quarterback. 223 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Clearly they didn't want because they just traded, didn't it 224 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: just beat Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson. They kicked his ass. Well, tour, 225 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: I guess A month later their team is now better. 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: They have dramatically upgraded and all their good players are 227 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: under contract. Jalen Ramsey Star Aaron Donald arguably the best 228 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: player not named Lawrence Taylor to ever play defense, Cooper Cup, 229 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Robert Woods Ballers, Cam Akers looks like a future stud. 230 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: You put Matt Stafford there with Sean McVeigh, it's gonna work, 231 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: you know what? Reckless? You know what? People keep using 232 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: that term because they never had the balls to do that. 233 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Now is it gonna work? I don't know, But every 234 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: one of their moves and Sean McVeigh has been there, 235 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, that's crazy. Oh that's dumb. Oh that's crazy. 236 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: All they do is keep winning. All they do is 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: keep winning, And it's like, oh, what if they had 238 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: these picks? What do they have these picks? I don't know. 239 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: What if I had hair? What if I was five 240 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: inches taller? I mean, what if I was born in 241 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: China instead of in Davis, California in the mid eighties. 242 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what who cares about these hypotheticals. I 243 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: have evidence what they're doing not only works, it consistently 244 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: gets them in the playoffs. And now two out of 245 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: his four years a head coach, he's won a playoff game. 246 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: His first year there, they hosted a playoff game. You 247 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be better with Matt Stafford. Do 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: you think Sean McVeigh gives a ship about first round picks? 249 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. First round and we've learned this 250 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: in the NBA forever, first round picks are not all 251 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: equal picks in the twenties where the Rams cons instantly 252 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: draft or not top five picks, And you go, well, 253 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: what if that happens to Houston. I don't see the 254 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Rams turning into Houston. You know why Bill O'Brien was insane. 255 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh sure doesn't feel insane. The Texans defense was 256 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: god awful. The l A Rams defense been consistently pretty 257 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: damn good since he's been there. Why because they got 258 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: really good players. So another thing I consistently see two 259 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: on social media and the reporters like throwing a pity 260 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: party for Jared goth This is professional sports. You signed 261 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: contracts for a lot of money. Ultimately they can trade you. 262 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: It's the shitty part about the business, right most of 263 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: us in normal people jobs. If you work at an 264 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: insurance company in Los Angeles or you work at an 265 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: accounting firm in Chicago, more than likely one day your 266 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: bosses are gonna knock on your door and say, Bill, 267 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: you've been traded to Tampa Bay for three junior accountants. 268 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. You also, more than likely, you know, 269 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: even if you're a good accountant, make a couple hundred grand. 270 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: You know what, Jared Goff has made eighty million fucking 271 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: dollars in his career. You know what, he's owed the 272 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: next couple of years over fifty million dollars. Seven years 273 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: into his career, he will have made a hundred and 274 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: thirty plus million dollars. He's not any good anymore. He's 275 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: not terrible, but he's definitely not worth that money. You 276 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: know what happens the moment you're not quote unquote worth 277 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the money the team is paying you, they look to 278 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: get rid of you. It's the nature of pro sports. 279 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: But this pity party for Jared Goff. He's not losing 280 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: his money. He gets to keep it. And you know 281 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: what else he gets to do. He gets to keep 282 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL for another NFL team. In the 283 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: history of football, in the history of sports, it happens 284 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: all the time. You know what's gonna happen moving forward 285 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: for the next fifty a hundred years, It's gonna happen 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot more. We gotta stop throwing pity parties when 287 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: guys get traded, and the guy obviously shouldn't get a 288 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: pitty party, should act like he won the lottery. Is 289 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford the guy spent his entire career and probably 290 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: a bottom five NFL franchise they have I think you know, 291 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: one playoff win in the last thirty plus years. They're 292 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: two best players in the history of the franchises. Both 293 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: both retired at thirty years old. I give a lot 294 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of props to Matt Stafford. Unlike everything that's going on 295 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: with de Sean. I don't blame to Sean, but it's 296 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: just getting out of control. Matt Stafford in a much 297 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: worse organization than to Sean. Sean has been the playoffs 298 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: several times, Matt Stafford in his twelve years, I think 299 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: got there what twice he worked with Dan Campbell. I 300 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: read that they had like an hour conversation last week 301 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: just talking the roster. Stafford was helping him out. Stafford 302 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: the moment the season was over, went to the owner, 303 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: went to the president, just said, hey, guys, I think 304 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: it's time for a divorce. Acted professional. You know what 305 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: they did. They did him a solid, clearly the inside job. 306 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: They sent him to Los Angeles de Sean McVeigh. Now, 307 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: his taxes are gonna go up. Luckily for Matt Stafford, 308 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: we don't have to play the tax game. Why he's 309 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: already made two d and ten million dollars. So yeah, 310 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: his paychecks probably gonna get dinged a little more living 311 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: in California. You know what, He'll finally be able to 312 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: do win some football games, probably win the NFC West, 313 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: depending on what happens is offseason. With the Packers and 314 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Saints quarterback, they have a decent chance, 315 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, to be the number one overall seed. 316 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford hit the lottery, and the reason he hit 317 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: the lottery is because of the Rams. Unlike all these 318 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: teams that are like, no, we can't. We can't part 319 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: with the extra two. We can't part with the extra 320 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: cap room. I'm talking good teams. Bad teams should value 321 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: those things, but good teams too often overvalue those things. 322 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: I love my second round pick, and trust me, I 323 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: love the draft as much as the next guy. But 324 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: when it comes to a quarterback, and we talked about 325 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: this for months and weeks and forever, they are dramatically 326 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: more important than these position players, dramatically more important than 327 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, than Khalil mac than Jalen Ramsey, and those 328 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: players are fucking awesome. Excuse my language. If your child 329 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: is in the car, don't use that around your parents. 330 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: That the quarterback matters infinitely more. And someone texts me today, 331 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: dude in football just knows his stuff, and he's like, 332 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: is Jared Goff really that much worse than Matt Stafford? Yeah? 333 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean Mat Stafford is dramatically more talented than Jared 334 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Goff And I love this. Well, what about the stats? 335 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: What about this? What about that Matt Stafford just spent 336 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: the last however many years playing for Matt Patricia. I 337 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: couldn't pay enough if I if I had the money 338 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: and I said to just a random owner, I'll give 339 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: you hundreds of millions of dollars to hire Matt Patricia. 340 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: There is no chance on God's green earth, Matt Patricia 341 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: is not hirable. Again, no one would hire him to 342 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: be his defensive to be an NFL defensive coordinator, he 343 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: had to go crawling back to Belichick to now be 344 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: his special project advisor. They just made up a role 345 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: for Why can Belichick do that? Because Patricia is still 346 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: getting paid by the Lions, so the Belichick and the 347 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Patriots don't have to pay him anything. No one there 348 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: were seven NFL openings, no one even thought about hiring 349 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia to be their defensive coordinator, let alone their 350 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: head coach. Now Stafford goes to Sean McVeigh. If we 351 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: had a coaching draft, everyone was just a free agent. 352 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Where with John mcveigho top five, right Belichick, Andy, I 353 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: mean he'd be right in the mix to go three 354 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: four five. That's where he gets to go. Now with 355 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: an offensive scheme that works with players that work, with 356 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: a culture that wins, and the Rams don't. I mean 357 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: they hadn't been faking it, but they get rid of 358 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: Jared Goff who they believe to their core was the 359 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: reason they weren't winning, And I think gets fair to 360 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: say that might be true. I look back at the 361 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: stats in the Super Bowl. They didn't get blown out 362 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. They lost thirteen to three, the 363 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: lowest scoring super Bowl in the history of the NFL. 364 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: If they had just scored fourteen points, I bet if 365 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: we did a study, if you score fourteen points in 366 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, you would lose every single one in 367 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: the history of the Super Bowl. Yet if they had 368 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: scored fourteen points, they would have won against Belichick and 369 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: Brady Golf completed nineteen balls, they scored three points. How 370 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: does Sean McVeigh ever get over that? From what I hear, 371 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's public knowledge. He gets the office like 372 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: four thirty five am. You think he wants to work 373 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: that hard for a quarterback that's constantly skipping balls to 374 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: guy's wide open. Of course not. Is Matt Stafford gonna 375 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: do some reckless things and have some hero ball syndrome, 376 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: probably because he probably has twelve years of bad habits. 377 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Some of them is gonna have to shake out. But 378 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: he has the talent. When Robert Woodard Cooper up is 379 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: be lined it across the field on one of those 380 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: deep crossing routes or a deep go route, and the 381 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: guy's open. He ain't gonna miss it. Jared Goff won't 382 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: even pull the trigger. So props of Rams for one, 383 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: just knowing the GM of the Lions for somewhat fleecing 384 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: them and getting them a massive upgraded quarterback. Well part 385 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: of this whole trade. I'm a little thrown off because 386 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: there is a timeline to football. There is a timeline, 387 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: maybe different than most industries, but maybe not. Uh. I'm 388 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: trying to think like my accountant works on the same 389 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: timeline every year. I think last year got pushed back 390 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: a little bit because of Corona, right, they pushed the 391 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: tax day back. But for the most part, depending on 392 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: what business you work for, every month or every quarter 393 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: has several check marks. And in football, this type Matt 394 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: staff for situation would have come to fruition or taken 395 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: place at the combine, not before the Super Bowl, but 396 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: because the combine doesn't exist, because it's kind of a 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: free for all right now, in terms of no one's 398 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna see each other, I guess they did see each 399 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: other at the Senior Bowl and the Domino started following 400 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: that this period of time in any team that didn't 401 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: lay in Matt Stafford, whether it's the Colts, whether it's Washington, 402 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: whether it's the Niners, whoever that you know, think to 403 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: themselves they need a quarterback. I think most of you fans, 404 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of one of those teams, you're 405 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: freaking out right now. It's February one. Free agency doesn't 406 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: start until the middle of March, so we need to 407 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit. And I'm guilty because 408 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Mass Stafford, when's the next Domino. We 409 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: haven't even played the Super Bowl. But I do think 410 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the timeline this year in the business of football is 411 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: thrown off dramatically because there is no there's no Indianapolis, 412 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: there's not that. You know. That's the equivalent of, you know, 413 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: it's the NFL's convention when business gets done for agency, 414 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: for definitely for trades, and it feels like we're often 415 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: running so with Matt Stafford probably being the biggest domino 416 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: because he's in his early thirties, I think he's viewed 417 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: at with a huge ceiling, more talented than like Matt 418 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: Ryan Kirk Cousins Jimmy Garoppolo, whoever is off the board. 419 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: So let's look at some of the teams who were 420 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: in the mix. What do they do now? The Panthers, 421 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: they have an owner with huge cast. They have an 422 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: owner that clearly wants to operate like a big wig. 423 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: They want to throw their hat in the ring. They 424 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: just offered the eighth pick, which, back to what I 425 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: said a little earlier, seems a little reckless by the 426 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Lions not taking that pick. You know, what you can 427 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: do with the eighth pick is moved back for several 428 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: first rounders. You could probably trade back to like twenty 429 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: and get a twenty and a first rounder next year. 430 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: But if I wanted to play Devil's advocate, this year 431 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: probably the hardest year to scout ever, because your scouts 432 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: haven't been allowed to go to school. All these kids 433 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: played a small amount of games. Some guys opted out, 434 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: other guys played limited amount. You know, some teams weren't 435 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: able to practice on weeks they played. So it's a 436 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: little weird. If you wanted to give me that excuse 437 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: for the Lions, I would hear you. I doubt they 438 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: used that one, though, but I appreciate the Panthers. I 439 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: like David Tepper, I liked I. I watched a little 440 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: bit of the Senior Bowl. I don't pretend to, I 441 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: mean talking like the practice during the week. I watched 442 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: none of the game. But I like Matt rule like, 443 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: I like what he's got going on. They got Joe Brady. 444 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: They wanted to throw their hat in the ring, and 445 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: they want to make the playoffs next year. Why wouldn't they? 446 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: This is the National Football League, This isn't the NBA. 447 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to keep your fingers crossed and hope 448 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: for like a Lebron James to win. If you get 449 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford Boom, they could win nine games. They be 450 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: in the dance hell. It only took eight wins to 451 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs this year in the NFC. If 452 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: Matt rules worthy of his you know, nine million dollar 453 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: a year contract, get him a quarterback. They got some weapons, 454 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, They got Joe Brady, improve the defense a 455 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: little bit. Boom saying, so to have a quarterback Brady's old. 456 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: They could fall off a cliff at any moment, and 457 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: the Falcons have a new coach. I guess Brady's not 458 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna fall off a cliff at any moment. But he 459 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: is old. So I like what they're doing. Now what 460 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: do they do now? I think they can slow play it. 461 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Think about drafting a quarterback. But as Chris Ballard said, 462 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: you don't just draft a quarterback to be like, oh, look, fans, 463 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: we drafted a quarterback. I think the same thing with relationships, Like, guys, 464 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm married. Now, do you like her? Not really? But 465 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: society said I needed to get married and have a child, 466 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: so you can't stand heard. Yeah, I don't really like 467 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: her at all. I think sometimes that happens with quarterbacks. 468 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: How do people you know that are married, that are miserable, 469 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: How do people draft quarterbacks like, yeah, we kind of 470 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: like them, but we needed a quarterback. Don't do that. 471 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Draft guys you love right Mahomes DeShawn Watson. When the 472 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: Seattle did it with Russell Wilson, you feel better about 473 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: It's easier to build around that guy because you're all in. 474 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times you know, and it 475 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: doesn't always work. I mean, Ryan Pace love Mr Whisky. 476 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: That failed, but at least he had some conviction. I 477 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: think sometimes quarterbacks guys forced themselves to draft a quarterback 478 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: and it doesn't always work. So if the Panthers wouldn't 479 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: shock him if they roll back with Teddy Bridgewater. He 480 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: has a seven year contract. Keep building and just wait 481 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: for your moment to land your Matt Stafford or a 482 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: quarterback you fall in love with. But I don't think 483 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: they're a lock because I would. I would imagine because 484 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: they were so terrible this year. They've done massive studies 485 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: on the rookie quarterbacks and they probably thought none of 486 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the guys that would be around when they're drafting. Hold 487 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: a candle to Stafford. I would agree. The Washington football team, 488 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera just beat cancer. You think he wants to 489 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: wait for a young quarterback to develop. Plus he's not 490 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: an offensive guy. The one quarterback he nailed was the 491 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: number one overall pick, and Cam Newton. They just made 492 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're not drafting that high, so I liked 493 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: them being all over Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford was on Washington, 494 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: I think they would probably be a actually picked and 495 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: win that division. What do they do now? I think 496 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: they should sniff around Jamis. I think they should sniff 497 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: around if Matt Ryan's available, I think they'll be sniffing 498 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: around on all these veteran quarterbacks. Trade for Marcus Mariota, 499 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: get a veteran quarterback in there. The forty Niners in 500 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: a little bit of a weird spot. Like you know, 501 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate it was hard right for all the reports. 502 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know this for certain, but I'll take 503 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Brewer at his word. I know he's locked in that. 504 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: They did not make a concrete offer of pick twelve. 505 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Unlike the Panthers, the Niners really value that being drafting 506 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: that high. To me, if the Niners had picked thirty one, 507 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: they would have easily offered him for Matt Stafford. But 508 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: pick twelve is very, very valuable, and are there gonna 509 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: be guys that are undervalued in this draft? Kyle Shanahan 510 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: probably makes between nine and eleven million dollars. He's in 511 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: year one of a six year extension. If I'm Jed 512 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: York Kyle, I'd say, Kyle, I pay you all this 513 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: money because I think you're an offensive savant. Draft a quarterback, 514 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: a guy you feel comfortable with and build the thing 515 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: around him. He's a cost controlled asset. We just saw 516 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: it when a veteran guy when he gets hurt in 517 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: his contract and Jimmy Garoppolo, it doesn't work. Go draft 518 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: a guy and we're we're at twelve. It's not crazy. 519 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: Go from twelve to seven because the Lions clearly don't 520 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: need a quarterback and are building for like five years 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: from now. So get to seven, maybe Justin Fields falls 522 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: and you'd be like middle Coff. You watch Justin Fields. 523 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: He's pretty raw. He needs to work. Didn't they say 524 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: the same thing about Josh Allen. Coach a up, make 525 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: up a player. That's what you get paid all this 526 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: money for to coach, right, Everyone said Patrick Mahomes raw, 527 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing. He's reckless. What happened? Andy 528 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Reid got his hands on him. What's going on now? 529 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs are in them back to back Super Bowls. I'm 530 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: not saying that the guy they'd app is gonna be 531 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but my point is you gotta have some 532 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: conviction as a coach with a young guy. It gives 533 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: you a lot of wiggle room. I would also kind 534 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: of look to pivot away from the Rams. The Rams 535 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: are gonna be very top heavy. If I'm the Niners, 536 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: I want to get a cheaper quarterback so I can 537 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: build a more depth on my roster, and that's my 538 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: point of difference against them, because they're gonna have better 539 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: players they just do. Seattle is kind of in the 540 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: middle of that, but they have a star quarterback too, 541 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: So in in the Cardinals like, I'm sorry, as long 542 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: as Kingsbury is the coach, they're They're not a playoff team. 543 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: So I would imagine the Niners um draft a quarterback 544 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: and then depending on Jimmy and the Patriots situation, maybe 545 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: trade Jimmy on draft Day. I also think Matt Ryan 546 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: for this other team too, is kind of kind of 547 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: out there. You know. Arthur Smith is new to the Falcons. 548 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: He had a lot of success these last couple of 549 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: years with Ryan Tannehill. One thing Ryan Tannehill has that 550 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan one million percent does not have is athletic ability. 551 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: He can run and they can run just their running scheme. 552 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: He can keep it and move around. To me, it 553 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to draft one of these 554 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks in Arthur Smith's offense, trade Matt Ryan. Here's 555 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: the problem. If I'm the Colts, I go I just 556 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: want eleven games and really went toe to toe with 557 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the Bills with Philip Rivers, who was on his last leg. 558 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: If I had Philip Rivers at thirty six and could 559 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: have had him for four years with the team that 560 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: I have around, I would have been consistently in the 561 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: playoffs every year. Is it crazy to think if you're 562 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: the Colts? Because if I'm the Niners, I can't trade 563 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: my number twelve from Matt Ryan. I'd like to trade 564 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: like a third round pick. But then I start thinking, 565 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't the Colts just trade their first round pick 566 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: for Matt Ryan? And I think the way you'd have 567 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: to do it is like post June one for cap implications, 568 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Little cap nerdy, But it's what my my people in 569 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: the loop have told me. But if you're the Colts, 570 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: you get a first round pick trade from Matt Ryan 571 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: straight up helps the the uh the Falcons rebuild, and 572 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got Matt Ryan and you're 573 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a double digit win team. Now, can you 574 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl? Probably not? But you're not gonna 575 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the twenties, a guy good enough 576 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: unless you're willing to go up. But that means you're 577 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna be willing to probably sacrifice several first round picks. 578 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan could keep in the loop right now. So 579 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine Matt Ryan would be in the mix 580 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: if he's available, and I think it makes some sense 581 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: to make him available if you are the Falcons, the 582 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Niners and Colts have to be sniffed around, and then 583 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: the Bears, I'm not exactly sure what they do, uh, 584 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: because they're drafting too late to draft one of these 585 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks unless they trade up to get a guy, but 586 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: then the pressure on a rookie seems pretty crazy. They 587 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: could trade for a guy like Marcus Mariotta, who I 588 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: think makes about ten million dollars for the Raiders, because 589 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense for the Raiders now with Derek 590 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Carr plan this well, they have a backup quarterback making 591 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. Can your defense be get back to 592 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: what it was a couple of years ago in Mariota, 593 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: who actually, in just the one game that he had 594 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: to play when Derek got hurt I think was Thursday 595 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Night Football against the Charges, looked really good. That would 596 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: should be a huge upgrade over Trabiski. Could you win 597 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: eight nine games with Mariota and just kind of save 598 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: your jobs because I don't see many other options. Are 599 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: they gonna sign Jamis Winston? Can't see Matt Ryan. That 600 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: doesn't make much sense in that offense. The Vikings cousins, 601 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't really think is available, but they would never 602 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: trade him with the Bears, so Mariota might be their 603 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: only option beside drafting a guy in like the second round. 604 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: So as you see, like you do realize why Matt 605 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Stafford was kind of a big deal because all these 606 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: teams that made the playoffs and are drafting past like twenty, 607 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to get up in the single digits to 608 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. One two, you might not love any 609 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: of those guys, and three like you're kind of a 610 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Noman's land. And the Colts Rivers retired and Jacoby is 611 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: a free agent. Say one thing that the Niners do 612 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: just have Jimmy. Now, I don't find Jimmy that valuable. 613 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: He never stays healthy. The Bears have nothing, Washington has nothing. 614 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: The Panthers do have Teddy Bridgewater. But as we saw 615 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: last year, like Teddy Bridgewater is a great guy, high character, 616 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: awful what happened to his leg, He's just not that good. 617 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: He's a good backup if he's your starter and you're 618 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: paying him twenty million. You're gonna lose, and you're gonna 619 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: draft eight. So I think these teams like they're gonna 620 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: have This is why they get paid. They have to 621 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: figure this out. I do not envy their situation, though, 622 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: because it won't be easy. Okay, let's go rapid fire. 623 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: Just some stories over the last three or four days 624 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: I saw that are kind of interesting. Some one's kind 625 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: of funny. Actually, the Los Angeles Rams before they got 626 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. Turns out Sean McVeigh I follow his fiance 627 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: on Instagram. You know, they were just in Cabo. It 628 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: turns out Matt Stafford was in Cabo too. They went 629 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: out to dinner, him and Matt Stafford's wife and his 630 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: fiance and drinking and having a good time. But before 631 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: that happened in the trade became official, they had reached 632 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: out to the Green Bay Packers. It's like less neat, 633 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: I get your buddies now working in Detroit. No, the 634 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers do not want Jared Goff and the 635 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers sure as hell are not gonna trade 636 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: you Aaron Rodgers when you have no picks. I mean, 637 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: I give him credit for try it and be like me, 638 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, d M and right now Cindy Crawford, j 639 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Lo and Jennifer Andison see what they're doing this week. 640 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: But come on, like, let's let's let's just keep your 641 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: eye on the prize of someone you can get. The 642 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Packers don't want Jared Goff and they definitely aren't trading 643 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: you Aaron Rodgers and Brian Gutikins. He claimed, like, absolutely not, 644 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: We're not trading Jared or I mean not Jared Goff. 645 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I guess. He gave a talk today to 646 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: the Green Bay media and a lot of people I saw, 647 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: like people that cover the Packers or fans on social media, 648 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: We're like, see, this story came out of nowhere. The 649 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: Packers did not create the story. It didn't start with 650 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: the coach. It definitely did start with the GM that 651 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: they would be interested in trading for Rogers. The story 652 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers saying that like who knows where all be? Who? 653 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: You know? My time? You never know? Life is funny. 654 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: You just see where I end up? You know, Uh, 655 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: this this this business is crazy. He said that, so we, 656 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: meaning people like me, started going God, is he gonna 657 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: ask out. I No one thought like, oh, yeah, the 658 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Packers are gonna get rid of Aaron Rodgers after he 659 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: won the m v P for Jordan's Love. A guy 660 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: that couldn't be that guy named Tim Boyle because he's 661 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: skipped balls in training camp, because he can't even complete 662 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: you know, a basic fifteen yard out round. No one 663 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: believed that the front office was going to try to 664 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: do that. We just questioned whether Aaron Rodgers wanted to 665 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: stay and whether he was happy with the situation. So 666 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: Guda Kins coming out and everyone being like, see, no intention. Yeah, 667 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: they never said that. I mean they kind of did 668 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: when they drafted Jordan's Love and then it turns out 669 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love might not be that good. Even though I 670 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: saw Guda Kins was like, listen, developmental project and he's 671 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: not lying there. But you Aaron Rodgers was not gonna 672 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: get traded unless he forced their hand, and it doesn't 673 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: seem like he's gonna do that. Video went viral of 674 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: him driving around and like a look like a two 675 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: thousand seven or eight GMC truck with bud light. You know, 676 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm I'm more of a corps like guy myself, but 677 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, the beer's free you drink whatever. The Eagles, 678 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. It was a tough watch. Uh, it really was. 679 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: Now do I think this guy is a bad coach? 680 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him, and I've heard pretty 681 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: good things actually, but as press conference did have some 682 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Jim Tom Sulla vibes. It really did. Now, I've been 683 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: talking for a living for you know, about seven years, 684 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: and when I first started talking, I remember I'd go 685 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: on a podcast and I listened back to it and 686 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: be like, how did I sound? This was like seven 687 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: years ago. I'm talking podcast no one even listened to 688 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: or radio interview, like what did it sound like? I 689 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: was really nervous, and he just become comfortable doing something 690 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: right over time. You're allowed to be nervous if you're 691 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: not used to public speaking, and that that could speak 692 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: for someone in like a college class. Anyone that's taken 693 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: public speaking in college knows. First time you get up, 694 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: especially if you're class like fifty people, you don't know 695 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: any of them. There's a couple of babes in there, 696 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: your heart kind of gets pumping and maybe you fall 697 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: on some words. Right though, as a football coach, I 698 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: would say the number one thing you have to be 699 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: able to do is communicate, and he communicated very, very poorly. 700 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: Now he was nervous, he was jittery. It's okay, Like 701 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the guy is gonna suck because 702 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: he had a terrible first press conference. But he had 703 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: a terrible first press conference. If he can coach, if 704 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: he can fix Carson Wentz, no one will care. Here's 705 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: the one issue. Jim tom Seula had a terrible first 706 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: press conference with the forty niners. It's um it's a viral, 707 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: legendary NFL moment, you know, for like the bloopers. Remember 708 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: if you're if you're my age or older, the NFL 709 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: used to do these bloopers. Remember growing up, we we 710 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: had a bunch of tape cassettes. I mean people in 711 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: the twenties, Like, what's the vhs? We have these vhs 712 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: is like bloopers from the seventies, bloopers from the eighties. 713 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: Jim tom Seul was an all time blooper. His press conference, 714 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: it was an utter train wreck. But the reason Jim 715 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: tom Seula was such a joke. Now that set the 716 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: first impression for the rest of the year. But was 717 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: he was a terrible coach. He had games, we didn't 718 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: know how many time outs he had. His team was unprepared, 719 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: his coaching staff was awful. It was a debacle. But 720 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: the media after that kind of went easy on him. 721 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of easy out here on the West Coast. 722 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not Philadelphia, it's not New York, 723 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: it's not Boston. Philadelphia is insane. They're gonna come after 724 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: this guy left and right, not because of a bad 725 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: first press conference. That's the way the team's covered the 726 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: bow and arrows. I mean, you're getting shot at every 727 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: single press conference with questions that you might have nothing 728 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: to do for. So the nature of the beast in 729 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: that market, it's really really hard, and if you're nervous 730 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: as a public speaker, it's gonna make it really difficult. 731 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: But if you're a good coach, none of it will matter. 732 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: Now it helps like Doug Peterson or Andy Reid or 733 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: even Chip Kelly, they can just handle themselves in a 734 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: press conference. This guy is gonna have to learn really fast, 735 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds. He might need to take 736 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: like some classes or work with the PR guy to 737 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: get a little more comfortable in that environment. It will 738 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: make his job easier because his job is already really difficult. 739 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: He has a major, major quarterback problem, right He's gotta 740 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: fixed wins. He's got Jalen Hurts, so they're gonna trade him, 741 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: are you gonna keep them both? Whatever, he's gonna win 742 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: his locker room back because there's fractions right now. Clearly 743 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: it's difficult. I'm not even counting whether you can have 744 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: a press conference. But if his press conference are gonna 745 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: go like that, and if he's struggling a little bit 746 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: to start off with, which isn't inconceivable, I don't know 747 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: how good their team is gonna be, and they might, 748 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, kind of reset could get ugly for the guy. 749 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: So you just he's gonna have to make a conscious 750 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: effort to improve at the president conferences. Tom Brady that 751 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: he was asked today does he plan to play past? 752 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: And remember, like three or four years ago, whenever he 753 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: made that statement, I think most of us thought that's 754 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: pretty nuts. Like Tom, come on, Tom, like we've all 755 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: been watching sports long enough. You're already you know, pushing 756 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: the envelope here. You've already kind of got to the 757 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: summit of Mount Everest. You pushed the envelope as far 758 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: as it can go. Just your your career is gonna 759 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: be over. Now he's forty three years old, He's in 760 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: the super Bowl against Mahomes. What if he wins this thing? 761 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: His arm still looks good, his team is good. Why 762 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: would he quit? Why would he retire? Why wouldn't Tampa 763 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: just keep signing him to one year deals. I actually 764 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: think there's a pretty good chance Tom Brady, he's definitely 765 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: playing next year. Could keep just keep doing one year deals? 766 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: Could he play No? Fifty? I don't. I don't think 767 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: it's inconceivable. You would think eventually someone breaks his foot, 768 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: breaks his hand, he just would get hurt. I mean 769 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: I I get injured going on a jog. Think how 770 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: often you do things in life as you get If 771 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: you're in your third late thirties, if you're listening in 772 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: your early forties, like you play golf for the first 773 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: time of the year, You're like, God, my back is sore. Eventually, 774 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: you would think, I don't care how great his TV 775 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: twelve diet is. I don't care how discipline he is. 776 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: Father time, if it truly is undefeated, it's gonna take 777 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: him down sooner or later. But until it does, He's 778 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: gonna keep on going. Oh the other thing, I saw 779 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: that the Rams and the Packers need a defensive coordinator 780 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: and one name that's out there, and I've been asked 781 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: about this name before. I don't know. If you do it, 782 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: all these teams in the league would hire Jim Leonard yesterday. 783 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: He played in the NFL for a while at safety. 784 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan loved him. He's a defensive he was a 785 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: smart player. And now he's been the defensive coordinator at 786 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: Wisconsin for a while. In the Wisconsin's defenses are awesome 787 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: and they're not exactly rolling out. You know Chase Young 788 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: and you know Patrick certain and all these sweet defensive 789 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: players in Alabama, Clemson, in Ohio State. He's actually doing 790 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: it kind of getting guys overachieved because he's just a really, 791 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: really good coach. If I was Sean McVeigh, if I 792 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: was Matt Lafleur, I would be all over Jim Leonard. 793 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: I would ask my owner. Well, first I'd ask Jim. 794 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: I'd say, Jim, what would it cost you to be 795 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: my defensive coordinator? And maybe he say no. But if 796 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: I say Jim, what is your number? As they say, 797 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: they make me what is an offer that you can't refuse, right, 798 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: he could say, make me the offer that I can't refuse. 799 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, And I would convince 800 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: my owner to pay him that much money because I 801 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: think he would be an excellent defensive coordinat I think 802 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: being head coach in the NFL relatively fast. Okay, let's 803 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: go a little Middlecoff Bail bay at John Middlecoff as 804 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: the Instagram handle, fire up in those d m s, 805 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: and we will answer your question right here. Let's start 806 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: with Ryan who usually I go into new d ms, 807 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: but if you're at the top of the heap and 808 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I see that question for the pot I was answered. 809 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: Is there another layer to why the Los Angeles Rams 810 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: soured on goth Seemed like they liked and adamantly defended 811 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: him up until the month or so and cut bait fast. 812 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: Were they just being professional or did Jared rub coaches 813 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: teammates the wrong way? Some inside sources that I've heard 814 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: is that it wasn't anything like he's not a bad guy. 815 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: People like him. I just don't think he was the 816 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: hardest worker. And mcveighs a guy that's getting there at 817 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: four thirty five in the morning. He from what I've heard, 818 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: he's one of the hardest working guys in the league. 819 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: In the league is full of grinders. I mean the andyes, 820 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: the Belichicks. It's a grinder league. And McVeigh because I 821 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: think he's young, he's like good looking, he's the hair done, 822 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's you know, he's just I 823 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: don't think he gets that, like people don't view him 824 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: like that. And he is. He's getting up at the 825 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: butt crack of dawn to go to work, and he's 826 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: investing all this time to dial up all these plays, 827 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: and God just wasn't good enough and God was killing him. 828 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: And I actually think my theory a little bit goes 829 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl. They lose thirteen to three. 830 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: He has nineteen completions and they lose, and then the 831 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: next two years he's not very good. And I think 832 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: every game that goes by, mcveigh's thinking to himself, why 833 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: am I working this hard for this guy that keeps 834 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: screwing up my offense? And eventually he just drew a 835 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: line in the sand. He couldn't take it anymore. You're 836 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: paying him all this money. You have a star player 837 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: in Aaron Donald that I was told is the hardest 838 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: worker you'll ever see, you know, I think when you 839 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: see a guy dominating on the field, we just assume 840 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: God given gifts and power. I've heard his weight room, 841 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: his practice habits are just elite, and I don't think 842 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: golf was like that. And one thing I also heard 843 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: is I don't think golf lost the locker room, but 844 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the locker room treated golf like he 845 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: was there. Dude, dude. They like the other guy, Walford. 846 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: It's why they didn't hesitate to make Walford the starter. 847 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: So I I just think it was for football reasons 848 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,479 Speaker 1: and they did get a little lucky that some team 849 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: wanted him. Though, If Brady wins the Super Bowl over Mahomes, 850 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: what would Mahomes have to do in order to surpass Brady? 851 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: As they go, there's nothing you can do. If Brady 852 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: beats him, Brady is gonna have seven ten appearances. How 853 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: does Mahomes ever get to seven championships? I just if 854 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: Brady wins, it's already probably set in stone, Like I mean, 855 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: Mahomes would have to attempt to pass him. But if 856 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: Brady wins this, what are we even talking about Michael 857 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: Jordan's Tiger. You name it move over like Tom's going 858 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: to the top top of the fountain. Uh. I love 859 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: the pot. Here's a male bad question for you, if 860 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: you're up for it. I am Angelo. I'm a Rams fan, 861 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: so I'm pumped about the addition to Stafford, regardless of 862 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: the picks we had to give up. Late first rounders 863 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: are overrated. Completely agree and that we found a way 864 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: to dump Golf in his contract. I've had a bunch 865 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: of folks criticize my optimism about the move, saying that 866 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: I shouldn't expect Brady to the Bucks level impact. I 867 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's at that level, but it reminds me 868 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Carson Palmer wound up with the Cardinals 869 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: quarterback nearing the end of his prime, teaming up with 870 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: the lead offensive mine a head coach. Do you think 871 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: that's a good comparison? And do you think that the 872 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: Rams will have more less or the same amount of 873 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: success that the Cards did with Carson? Funny you bring 874 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: him up. I texted him last week and see if 875 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: he wanted to come on. He that reminds me, said 876 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: text me this week, so I'll see if I can 877 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: get Carson on for the end of the week, I 878 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: will ask him that question. I think that's a pretty 879 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: good comparison. You know, big physical, big arm quarterback that 880 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: had spent. Now, Carson had had more success, he had 881 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: won a little bit in Cincinnatiuh, the Raiders, I don't 882 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: even put against him. So he had moved teams. But yeah, 883 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: I like some of the parallels came to Arians. I'd 884 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: say the difference is when Carson got traded the Cardinals. 885 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals were kind of a joke. Then they got Carson. 886 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: They drafted the honey Badger, Patrick Peterson, you know, they 887 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: draft David Johnson, they get you know, Klais Campbell's there. 888 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: They just boom boom. They started nailing all these picks 889 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: and moves, and all of a sudden they were sweet 890 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: in a division remember that had l Ob and the 891 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: Harbont Niners, and they were like, damn, the Rams are 892 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: already good. Like Carson was a huge part of changing 893 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: the culture. The Rams don't need that. The Rams just 894 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: needs Stafford to come in and be what he's you know, 895 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: just be solid player, just be like a fringe Pro 896 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: Bowl guy. The Cardinals needed Palmer to come in and 897 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: be elite, and he was. I think the Cardinals needed 898 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: more at a Palmer than the Rams need out of Stafford, 899 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. But I'm with you. If 900 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm a Rams fan, I'm hella happy. I am jumping 901 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: for joy. I don't care at all about those late 902 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: first round picks because I just look at it like this, 903 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: we got rid of Jared Goff from Matt Stafford. There 904 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: was not a team in the National Football League beside 905 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: the Lions they would do that, swamp, not one. Why 906 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: would the Rams trash Golf so much if they thought 907 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: they might deal him. Seems like the the impression they 908 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: gave of him lowered his value in trade talks, right. 909 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: I think some of that's overrated. His contract is what 910 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: it is. His tape speaks for itself. Unless they're saying 911 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: that he's, you know, like a malcontent and a bad guy, 912 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: they're just saying he's not good enough. And this also 913 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: gets back to my theory of the inside job. I 914 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: don't think it mattered what they were gonna say because 915 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: they knew they had a pretty good chance with their 916 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: dude that's the new Detroit GM to land them. And 917 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: maybe he had told him, or maybe they knew he 918 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: likes to like Goff and then he calls lessonied and 919 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: tells him Dan Campbell likes Goff. I'm telling you, if 920 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: you had to use two words to describe this trade 921 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: lines of the Rams, it's inside job. That's that. You 922 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: can't convince me otherwise because they You're right, it's very reckless. 923 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: The forty Niners would trade Jimmy Garoppolo yesterday. Yet when 924 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: you google what Kyle Shanahan John Lynch have said about 925 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: him and then have leaked about him, you'd think they're 926 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: talking about like Philip Rivers. It's like, damn, I didn't 927 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: know Shaun Watson was the quarterback of the Niners. No, 928 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: it's Jimmy Garoppolo. But they speak so highly of the 929 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: guy that they want to hype up his trade value, which, 930 00:49:54,200 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: let's face it, kind of stupid. You think Belichick's ever like, hey, hey, Billy, 931 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: get me the Twitter print out of what the coaches 932 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: and the media are saying about Jimmy Garoppolo, right, Or 933 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 1: like what has Pete Carroll been saying about Russell Wilson? 934 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: Like most coaches like they don't even care. They just 935 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: watched the tape and they look at a contract unless 936 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: it's something really bad, but like, no one holds it 937 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: against it. Like did you remember when Sean Payton said 938 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: that Taysom Hill miss that third down when when they 939 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: were in cover two and he had the guy over 940 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: the middle and John Payton said he should have seen 941 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: the flat defender and he threw the pick. Like, no 942 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: one's paying attention to any of that. So yeah, I 943 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: think some of that's overrated. If Jimmy goes to the 944 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: Bears and makes the playoffs and things don't work out 945 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: with Stafford in San Francisco, this feels like an old 946 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: fireball offense. Every night. Are fans so desperate to to 947 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: ditch Jimmy, but it seems that the stakes and the 948 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: pressure would automatically ratchet up, especially if Jimmy good elsewhere. Well, 949 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: here's the thing, if whoever, the if, the if the 950 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: Niners trade Jimmy, they will be judged on jimmy success. 951 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: So how well is Jimmy playing and how well their 952 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 1: guy is playing? Right, But the key will be their 953 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: guy if they're having success and they're winning double digit 954 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 1: games in the playoffs, unless Jimmy Garoppolo is like fifteen 955 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: and one on the Patriots. Who cares? If Jimmy is 956 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: just solid, that's fine. If the Niners end up with 957 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: Mattie Ice or Trey Lance or whatever and they're winning games, 958 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: no one will really care about what Jimmy's doing. But 959 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: you're right. If they trade Jimmy, let's say, to the Bears, 960 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: and they somehow end up with Kirk Cousins, that makes 961 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: me want to puke in my mouth. And the Niners 962 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: go seven and nine with Kirk Cousins and the Bears 963 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: make the playoffs at nine and seven, it is a 964 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: disaster for sure. That's part of the game here. Like 965 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: what if the Lions are good with Jared Goth and 966 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: the Rams aren't with Stafford, which I don't see conceivably 967 00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: as possible. How are the Chiefs able to afford Kelsey 968 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: Hill Honey Badger? Since Mahomes received the massive contract, we'll see. 969 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: The thing with Mahomes is that he did his contract 970 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: was not up. Patrick mahomeside a contract extension. So like 971 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: when you hear about Jared Goff's big contract, it just 972 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: kicks in next year. Stame with Carson Wentz because these 973 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: guys get their fifth year option picked up and they 974 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: signed these contracts after three years. So when Mahomes signs 975 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: the ten year contract, it's actually, as they said, a 976 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: twelve year contract because it's a ten year extension to 977 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 1: his five year deal and he had two years left. 978 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: So if I pull up Patrick Mahomes contract right now, 979 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: this year they paid Patrick Mahomes ten million dollars. Get 980 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 1: something in my throat, maybe got the rhna that the 981 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs paid a ten million dollars. Next year, Mahomes 982 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: makes two million dollars with a capit. His capits are 983 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, the next they're kind of nuts. His 984 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: capits don't get crazy till the next several years, and 985 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: they get pretty outrageous. In two thousand seven, mahomes capit 986 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: is sixty million dollars. Ye Hill restructure, so they're good. 987 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: Mom is gonna make a lot of money reading this. 988 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: If Mahomes were to play out his contract and never restructure, 989 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: never change, I think we I mean, we already know this, 990 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: but it's just let me read this out loud. In 991 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,959 Speaker 1: two thousand thirty one, Mahomes will be thirty six years 992 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 1: old and he will have made four hundred and seventy 993 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 1: seven million dollars. Can you imagine that if you're Ma Homes, 994 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: I would just go home. I'd pull up spot track 995 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: and I'd go You know, if I had just played 996 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: this thing out, I'm gonna make four D seventy seven million. 997 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: You're like, well, Patrick, what if you're not playing l 998 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: and you only make a bill thirty three? You're like, well, 999 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: I'd make three nine million. I mean, Patrick Mahomes has 1000 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: the world by the balls, making a ton of money, 1001 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass on the best team in the league. Uh, 1002 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: he's got a good thing going right now. A lot 1003 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: of cashola for Mahomes or, as they say on the 1004 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: State Farm commercials, mahomies huge fan of three and our podcast. 1005 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: I don't need to read that always, but sometimes I'm 1006 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: just reading the text, so I'm not trying to boost 1007 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: myself up here. Big time Minnesota Vikings fan in Minnesota, 1008 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: people want Zimmer out bad. I personally disagree with that. 1009 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: We lost our three best defensive players bar Kendricks and Hunter, 1010 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: also lost our best free agent, Michael Pierce to COVID 1011 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: opt out, and with our young secondary, we weren't going 1012 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: to be that good this year. Kind of surprising. We 1013 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: finished seven and nine. What do you think about the 1014 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: Vikings for next year as a dark horse team to 1015 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: win the NFC? Also, what do you think about the 1016 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 1: Vikings doing in the draft. I personally like a couple 1017 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: of these guys. I don't even know who they are. 1018 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about offensive line help? A couple 1019 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: of other things I'd like your opinion on. Okay, let's 1020 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: just start with the Vikings. I would keep Kirk Cousins. 1021 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: You got Justin Jefferson, you got Dalvin Cook, you got 1022 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: feeling uh IRV. Smith. Like. Their offense is good. They 1023 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: have a defensive coach, So if you just coach those 1024 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: guys up, their defense should be good next year or 1025 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: better white they easily could be nine and seven the draft. 1026 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: To be completely honest, I haven't even thought about the draft, 1027 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know that some of these random guys. 1028 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: A couple other things. I'd like your opinion on Justin 1029 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: Herbert the next Matt Stafford. I'd say he's more like 1030 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: a Josh Allen, a better version of Josh Allen. Rex 1031 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: Ryan be a really good college football coach, really good 1032 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: feel strong. I don't know about that. Texans trade Watson 1033 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins for two first round picks and two 1034 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: uh and take Piney Sewell and they have Sewel and 1035 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: Tunzil as the tackles for the next five years. Not crazy, 1036 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: I just don't know why they want to. I saw 1037 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: two of to day say that he thought his rookie 1038 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: year was blow average. I had someone in the league 1039 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: text me and they're like, bro, I just watched Justin Herbert. 1040 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: I had to put a grade on him in our system. 1041 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think people can even comprehend passing 1042 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: on this guy for t Like, how good can this 1043 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: guy be? He's like the Skuy's the limit. I it 1044 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: just you got a cringe every day after the Miami Dolphins. 1045 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: That has to hurt so bad. I can't even imagine. 1046 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: You spent a couple of years bottoming out, you get 1047 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: the opportunity with the fifth overall pick and you take two, which, 1048 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: let's face it was not that crazy. But it's not 1049 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: about what me or you think. They are paid to 1050 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: get it right, as fans were just paid to watch, 1051 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: or me pay to talk about it. Actually, fans, we 1052 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 1: actually pay as fans to watch right. We get cable 1053 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: bills and go to games cost money. They're paid to 1054 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: get that right, though, and they screwed it up. Now 1055 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: it's only one year, but I that one's hard to shake, man, 1056 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: because if I told you right now the Dolphins had 1057 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: justin Herbert, we'd be like, are they? Are they the 1058 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: chiefs competition for the next five years. Bio major Here. 1059 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,959 Speaker 1: The reason coke zero and things like that are able 1060 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: to have zero calories is because of an ingredient called 1061 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 1: ask for a Tommy. I probably said that wrong, which 1062 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: tastes like sugar but cannot be digested by your body. 1063 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: It goes right through you. On my other podcast, I 1064 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: had this take. I was like, the craziest thing about 1065 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: coke zero or anything beside water with zero calories? How's 1066 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: it possible to have zero calories? Like I get water, 1067 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing in it. But with like Coca Cola, coke zero, 1068 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: Pepsi zero, Gatorade zero, you're still drinking. There's still stuff 1069 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: in there. How's that zero calories? I don't believe you. 1070 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: I believe there's like ten calories in there. I'm not 1071 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: even quite sure what calories are. I learned way back 1072 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: in the day, like high school, but I was I 1073 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: pushed back at that, so This is a good answer 1074 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: by Jack Malone. Coke zero has this. I'm gonna try 1075 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: to say this one more time as per as as 1076 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: part of me, I'm not very good with words. As 1077 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: someone the talks are living. I'm really not. I cannot 1078 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: even begin to say that word. That's a hard word 1079 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: to say. Appreciate everyone listening, have a good super Bowl week, 1080 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: and I will be back Friday. Godspeed,