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Speaker 2: Welcome in What Driving Nick Write Episode one eighty six.
Speaker 2: Fresh off an interesting, if not all that well played
Speaker 2: Monday night football game after a very intriguing Week six
Speaker 2: in the NFL were seemingly no quarterbacks except for Trevor,
Speaker 2: Laura and Jared Goff played well, We will discuss all
Speaker 2: of that. Demonse will be joining as shortly. He for
Speaker 2: his first time since moving to Los Angeles, is dealing
Speaker 2: with the devastation of Los Angeles traffic, but we'll give
Speaker 2: him a pass. We'll see him shortly. Here is what
Speaker 2: missed the cut for today's show. Trevor Lawrence Day to
Speaker 2: day with a knee injury. They play on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: That is a story to monitor for Thursday. Justin Field's
Speaker 2: doubtful with a thumb injury. They're gonna be playing a
Speaker 2: guy from Shepherd College. Potentially that's a disaster for a
Speaker 2: team that's already had a bunch and Kansiony defeats Denver
Speaker 2: for Chexnoes yet the one thousandth straight time. But where
Speaker 2: we're going to start today is with Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2: The producers tell me that I said the Cowboys were
Speaker 2: going to roll the Chargers. They obviously did not roll
Speaker 2: the Chargers. They did, however, beat the Chargers. They also
Speaker 2: said that I had mentioned that looked sensational and I
Speaker 2: took a shot at Herbert. The question I'm being asked
Speaker 2: is have people been too harsh on Dak and not
Speaker 2: harsh enough on Herbert. So let's start with the Herbert
Speaker 2: part and then we will circle around to Dak And
Speaker 2: also what frustrated me about last night's Cowboys game. So
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert came into the NFL top ten pick pressed
Speaker 2: into service in the game where the Chargers team doctor
Speaker 2: stabbed Tyrod Taylor trying to ge him a painkilling injection
Speaker 2: week two of his rookie season against my beloved Chiefs
Speaker 2: in a game, the defending champion Chiefs, no Less, in
Speaker 2: a game he did not think he was gonna have
Speaker 2: to play and threw for three hundred yards, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick, a ninety four passer rating, and they lost.
Speaker 2: But he was down right terrifying, And in that moment,
Speaker 2: I said, Oh, Jesus, this guy that the Chargers, a
Speaker 2: divisional opponent, got a great one and he's going to
Speaker 2: be a pain in the ass for years to come.
Speaker 2: And that is still kind of true. But where I'm
Speaker 2: at with Herbert is that it is not that he
Speaker 2: is the problem with the Chargers. As I said to
Speaker 2: Demanse a few weeks ago when we discussed him, It's
Speaker 2: not that he's the problem. It's that he is paid
Speaker 2: to be the solution, and you have some concern on that.
Speaker 2: It is. Is Justin Herbert a good quarterback, no question.
Speaker 2: Is Justin Herbert a very good quarterback? I think so.
Speaker 2: But has Justin Herbert improved in any significant fashion since
Speaker 2: his rookie year. No. Justin Herbert's rookie year three to
Speaker 2: one touchdown interception ratio, A ninety eight passer rating yards
Speaker 2: per attempt of seven point six. So again three to
Speaker 2: one touchdown interception ratio, ninety eight passer rating yards per
Speaker 2: attempt seven point six. Justin Herbert for his career a
Speaker 2: three to one touchdown interception ratio a ninety seven passer
Speaker 2: rating seven point two yards per attempt seven point I'm
Speaker 2: sorry he was seven point three as a rookie seven
Speaker 2: point two. Now, it's not like those are really good numbers,
Speaker 2: and they're the numbers of a really good quarterback. But
Speaker 2: when you put up those numbers as a rookie, we
Speaker 2: expect you to consistently improve. That just hasn't happened. And Edwarder,
Speaker 2: I didn't know this stat So credit to Heaedwarder for
Speaker 2: tweeting it out an hour or so ago. Let me
Speaker 2: the let me find it real quick. I just had it.
Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour's clinching I in Tino. Justin Herbert through his
Speaker 2: thirteenth career interception in the fourth quarter of a one
Speaker 2: score game tonight. That's five more so he has thirteen.
Speaker 2: No other quarterback has more than eight since he came
Speaker 2: into the league. Now, Herbert plays a lot of one
Speaker 2: score games, there's been more opportunities for that. I understand that.
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of different thresholds of do
Speaker 2: I have a good quarterback? Do I have a very
Speaker 2: good quarterback? Do I have a great quarterback? Do I
Speaker 2: maybe have the best quarterback? And one of them is
Speaker 2: the indefinable situation Herbert was in last night, and it's
Speaker 2: the feeling that you have if you're rooting four or
Speaker 2: against that team, which is got the ball two twenty
Speaker 2: left down three own twenty five yard line. I had
Speaker 2: a bet on the Cowboys. I was rooting for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I wasn't worried. That's a problem. And no Charger fan
Speaker 2: out there can argue. When he got the ball there
Speaker 2: you were like, well, definitely getting three, might get seven.
Speaker 2: You were actually watching saying, USh, this probably isn't gonna
Speaker 2: end great. And that doesn't mean he's bad. He obviously
Speaker 2: is not bad. But he came into the league and
Speaker 2: A or a B plus and right now he's an
Speaker 2: AUS or a B plus. That's a problem now to
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. The good Dak Prescott was sensational last night,
Speaker 2: adverse circumstances, his coach seemingly working against him. Michael Gallup. Now,
Speaker 2: where Dak I thought made a mistake was targeting Gallup
Speaker 2: so often. But Gallup couldn't catch anything and made plays
Speaker 2: with his legs, which he must do more of. That's
Speaker 2: an important part of his game. He's gotta do more
Speaker 2: of it. Made plays out of structure, made high level throws,
Speaker 2: completed some big time third, medium's, third and longs, and
Speaker 2: was excellent last night the Cowboys, and I tried to
Speaker 2: caution everyone of just anointing the Niners in the Eagles
Speaker 2: like oh Man, Cowboys lucky if they make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Now game back, game back of both of those teams. Now,
Speaker 2: the Niners obviously have the tiebreaker with Dallas, but Dallas
Speaker 2: gets Philly twice, and while Philly has the toughest eight
Speaker 2: game stretch in the league coming up, Dallas has a
Speaker 2: buye then their home for the Rams, then one of
Speaker 2: those Eagles games, then the Giants, the Panthers, the Commanders
Speaker 2: before their schedule gets far tougher with Seahawks, Eagles, Bills, Dolphins, Lions,
Speaker 2: and then finish the year against the Commanders. So do
Speaker 2: not be surprised in the least if we leave Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: Day with the Cowboys in first place in the NFC East.
Speaker 2: Don't be surprised by that. In fact, that's what I
Speaker 2: think is gonna happen. And so there is there that
Speaker 2: is the good for the Cowboys. Here is the not
Speaker 2: good for the Cowboys. What we saw from Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: at halftime of the game, or right before halftime of
Speaker 2: the game is just absolutely unforgivable. And by the way, guys,
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think a MIC's opening there, so
Speaker 2: I'm hearing a lot of background noise. If you guys
Speaker 2: can kill that for the moment, I don't know if
Speaker 2: the audience is hearing it as well, but yeah, so
Speaker 2: if you guys can fix that, that'd be great. Uh.
Speaker 2: The the so, what happened at halftime of the game,
Speaker 2: right before halftime was and I know this term can
Speaker 2: be overused, but was coaching malpractice. Guys. What I'm hearing it,
Speaker 2: just so you guys know, is Demanse's Mike. If you
Speaker 2: guys can kill that for the moment, that would be great.
Speaker 2: What happened last night is coaching malpractice and it can't happen.
Speaker 2: And so I'll give you the play by play of it,
Speaker 2: but it is a stinging indictment of McCarthy's faith in
Speaker 2: Dak and McCarthy's situational awareness. The Dallas Cowboys had two
Speaker 2: timeouts and completed a short pass to Michael Gallup on
Speaker 2: the sideline for eleven yards to get the ball to
Speaker 2: the chargers thirty seven yard line. Gallup was ruled that
Speaker 2: his forward progress was stopped in bounds. Okay, So McCarthy
Speaker 2: had a choice there to call timeout or not. He,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, didn't realize the clock was running, and
Speaker 2: then once he realized it, decided, screw it, I'll hold
Speaker 2: onto the timeout. So they run a play they again,
Speaker 2: they have at the thirty seven with fifty seconds left,
Speaker 2: five zero, and they don't get their next playoff till
Speaker 2: there's twenty seven seconds left. On that play, there is
Speaker 2: a penalty. The next play there's another penalty, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're in this situation fourteen seconds left.
Speaker 2: Dallas has both timeouts, they have the ball at the seventeen.
Speaker 2: The clock has been mismanaged to this point, but it's
Speaker 2: just kind of run of the mill mismanagement, being a
Speaker 2: little too protective of your timeouts. Okay. Dak then throws
Speaker 2: over the middle with eight seconds left. There are the
Speaker 2: play ins with eight seconds left, they're at the fourteen.
Speaker 2: They have two timeouts. This is the key piece of it,
Speaker 2: and Mike McCarthy doesn't use it until there's three seconds left.
Speaker 2: Instead of trusting your decade long veteran franchise quarterback to
Speaker 2: take a shot to the end zone, he lets it
Speaker 2: go down to three seconds and kicks the field goal.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. The margins are too thin. And
Speaker 2: it is such an indictment of what McCarthy thinks of Dak.
Speaker 2: But the problem is, Mike McCarthy, you guys ain't winning
Speaker 2: a damn thing if you don't trust Dak Prescott flatly.
Speaker 2: And so I thought the end of the half was unforgivable.
Speaker 2: And it for a guy who picked the Cowboys to
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. It made me while last
Speaker 2: night's game, the defense looked excellent, Dak looked great. The
Speaker 2: coaching was so abysmal it concerned me massively. So there's
Speaker 2: our Monday night football reaction. Demonse, got here, little la
Speaker 2: traffic issues. Demonse, how are you doing this morning? No listen.
Speaker 2: I told the guys, you've been doing the show for
Speaker 2: eighteen months. This is the first time the traffic got you,
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna hold it against you. They had
Speaker 2: a whole photoshop ready to kill you on it. I
Speaker 2: can see right now you're very upset with yourself. I'm
Speaker 2: not worried about it. The next the reason, I was
Speaker 2: gonna wait till the B block to bring you in,
Speaker 2: but you got here just in time to talk about
Speaker 2: your new guy, the guy that Daniel Jones was replaced
Speaker 2: by in brock Purty. So why don't you go right ahead?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so brock Prity finally lost his first game. He
Speaker 3: threw his first pick, but he didn't have his key weapons.
Speaker 3: I think that any quarterback would have struggled without their
Speaker 3: key weapons in situation like that, best defense in football,
Speaker 3: the whole nine. So he's not Patrick Mahomes, obviously. Is
Speaker 3: there anybody else besides Patrick Mahomes on a on an
Speaker 3: NFL team that you'd be comfortable having as your quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course there's there's there's, of course there are.
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Mahomes than anyone, but the guys, we
Speaker 2: gotta we gotta be fair here, we I mean, I
Speaker 2: see the producers wrote, yes, perty isn't the MVP. Congrats
Speaker 2: on winning an argument no one was actually making. That's
Speaker 2: both this is the this is what is just maddening.
Speaker 2: It was being made on TV shows everywhere, everywhere. He
Speaker 2: was fourth in the Vegas odds. But and this is
Speaker 2: where I get to just kind of be a jerk
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, this is one of those those eventually
Speaker 2: right takes I told you about, because everyone now is
Speaker 2: grading Purdy on a curve that is tacitly admitting they
Speaker 2: agree with me about his skill level. Oh, no one
Speaker 2: can move the ball on the Browns defense, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Did you know why? Because he's awesome? And I had
Speaker 2: to listen for a month that I was a hater
Speaker 2: for not admitting party was awesome. What more do you
Speaker 2: want to see from Brock Purdy? I was asked, and
Speaker 2: I said, well, a couple things. One is, I'd like
Speaker 2: to see how he looks in a situation where he
Speaker 2: doesn't have the Avengers around him as skill position guys,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he loses Christian McCaffrey and
Speaker 2: he's terrible. He's not mediocre, he's not okay, he's terrible.
Speaker 2: I asked to see that didn't pass that test. Hold
Speaker 2: On the other the other other question. The other thing
Speaker 2: I said I wanted to see was let's see them
Speaker 2: in a tight second half and see how he does.
Speaker 2: And the answer was a fifteen passer rating and fifty
Speaker 2: yards in the second half. And everyone's like, oh, Nick,
Speaker 2: you're being too harsh. I I'm only being too harsh
Speaker 2: if everyone is now with me that he should be
Speaker 2: graded on the young We're not sure how good he is,
Speaker 2: give him time to grow curve. But I that's where
Speaker 2: I've been putting him, And folks said, I'm being mean.
Speaker 2: So now people want to be able to argue that
Speaker 2: he is unquestionably a top ten quarterback and arguably the
Speaker 2: most valuable player in the league, and then also be
Speaker 2: able to argue you can't hold the fact that he
Speaker 2: got out played by PJ Walker against him. Pick a lane,
Speaker 2: Pick a lane. Folks like that, that's the the and
Speaker 2: let's the Browns defense is awesome. But what's also true
Speaker 2: is this. They've played five quarterbacks this year. The first
Speaker 2: game was against Joe Burrow on one leg. Now, they
Speaker 2: were great and Burrow was terrible. But I think we
Speaker 2: also then saw over the next few weeks that Burrow
Speaker 2: was gonna look really bad. Against most teams. The second
Speaker 2: game was against Ryan Tannehill, who stinks every week. They
Speaker 2: played Kenny Pickett, who had a decidedly mediocre game, not great,
Speaker 2: not awful, which is exactly who Kenny Pickett is. They
Speaker 2: played Lamar Jackson, who was awesome, which is exactly who
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is. And they played Brock Purty and he
Speaker 2: was terrible. And so take from it what you want, guys. Uh,
Speaker 2: but we saw for the first time a team not
Speaker 2: have to worry about Christian McCaffrey, A team dare Brock
Speaker 2: Party to beat him. And he could have thrown four
Speaker 2: interceptions in that game. He just could have. And anyone
Speaker 2: who is being honest will admit the Niners' biggest question mark,
Speaker 2: the Niners' weakest link, and the thing that makes if
Speaker 2: you're a big Niners fan you the most afraid is
Speaker 2: that Brock Party doesn't have it. That is just a
Speaker 2: fair reading of the season. Now, DEMONSA, you tried to
Speaker 2: jump in, but I was fired up, so I wouldn't
Speaker 2: I stopped you, So go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess the last couple of minutes of that
Speaker 3: game was probably the biggest spot up until his NFL
Speaker 3: career yet he did get them in the field goal
Speaker 3: range without his two biggest weapons.
Speaker 4: There was a hands to win the game. Was it
Speaker 4: a forty three yarder?
Speaker 2: I think forty one yarder? All right, so let's talk
Speaker 2: about that. The first play of that drive, he throws
Speaker 2: the ball right to the Browns and he drops it,
Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, nick, nick, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: You're gonna count dropped interceptions against him. Well, folks now
Speaker 2: want to give him credit for missed field goals, right.
Speaker 2: He can't play it both ways. You can't be like,
Speaker 2: if the guy makes the field goal, he's a hero. Fine.
Speaker 2: If Newsom catches the ball thrown to him, he's he
Speaker 2: in that exact spot. First play of the drive, throws
Speaker 2: a pick, And yes, I did want to see Brock
Speaker 2: Purdy in that moment, and after trying to throw the
Speaker 2: game away, he moved them down the field. That is true.
Speaker 2: What is also true, and this is where people would
Speaker 2: have gotten angry with me, But at least I am
Speaker 2: consistent if that guy makes that field goal, you know what.
Speaker 2: My feelings on Brock Perdy's game are twelve for twenty seven,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five yards, one pick and a
Speaker 2: ball that just slipped right out of his tiny hands.
Speaker 2: You know what my feelings are on his performance that game,
Speaker 2: that field goal made or missed. He was bad because
Speaker 2: he was That's why the fallacy of the quarterback wins stuff.
Speaker 2: But this is the double standard that I just I
Speaker 2: can't get over with some of my colleagues in the media.
Speaker 2: When objectively speaking, Purdy would have a mediocre game, particularly
Speaker 2: last year, where McCaffrey would be unbelievable and carry them
Speaker 2: and they would win. Folks would say, got nick quarterbacks
Speaker 2: jobs to win the game. His job is to win
Speaker 2: the game. You're gonna criticize him, and now he's awful
Speaker 2: and they lose, and you know what, those same people
Speaker 2: are saying, what more do you want him to do?
Speaker 2: I don't know, be better in the first fifty nine
Speaker 2: minutes so the game doesn't come down to your rookie
Speaker 2: kicker outdoors in Cleveland in the rain making a kick
Speaker 2: to beat p J. Walker. Is that too much? No,
Speaker 2: it's not too much.
Speaker 4: Situation.
Speaker 2: So just now, what'd you say?
Speaker 3: Situation sounds super similar to some other team that didn't
Speaker 3: have one other team and lost to a lesser team,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Do you what do you mean that team,
Speaker 3: the Chiefs the first game of the year they lost
Speaker 3: the Lions. Well, I will say the lines are looking
Speaker 3: pretty good, looking pretty good.
Speaker 4: They did use that game. They're supposed to be like this.
Speaker 4: You put them up here in Holmes Mountain. They got
Speaker 4: that one guy the top of the mountain. See.
Speaker 2: But this is where people, this is and I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're being serious or just trying to get
Speaker 2: a rise out of me. I'm not sure. This is
Speaker 2: where people make fools of themselves. We want to what
Speaker 2: are we comparing right now? We're comparing Patrick Mahomes to
Speaker 2: Brock Party. If people are trying to argue I give
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes more benefited out than Brock Party, yeah, of
Speaker 2: course yes I do. And there's a reason for it.
Speaker 2: Are people trying to argue that the Chiefs looked as
Speaker 2: as out of sorts against the Lions as the Niners
Speaker 2: did against the Browns. I don't think that's what the
Speaker 2: tape shows. I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1: This is this is.
Speaker 3: Any quarterback would struggle without their two main I guess
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes only had Kelsey that was missing. But you'd argue,
Speaker 3: yet some other things missing. Anybody would struggle at quarterback
Speaker 3: without two of their main weapons.
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, not MVPs. Not great quarterbacks, Yes they are not.
Speaker 2: They are not necessarily putting up three hundred yards. But
Speaker 2: the reason you get discussed as the most valuable player
Speaker 2: of the NFL is because your team can function without
Speaker 2: other guys. It's because you are clearly the most valuable
Speaker 2: player on your own team. These are this is what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. This is the again, where do we
Speaker 2: want to discuss brock perty Do we want to hold
Speaker 2: him to the standard we hold Geno Smith to? I'm
Speaker 2: okay with that. Do we want to hold him to
Speaker 2: the standard we hold Derek Carr to? I'm okay with that,
Speaker 2: And that is a compliment to him. Those are veteran,
Speaker 2: established quarterbacks. The hold on honest question. Do you think
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers would be worse with
Speaker 2: Derek Carr? Do you think they'd be worse with Geno Smith?
Speaker 4: Definitely not Joe Smith?
Speaker 2: No, So, so, hold on, are are we are? We
Speaker 2: have elevated this guy? That's been the discussion all last week.
Speaker 2: It was is he the MVP of the league? That
Speaker 2: was the discussion. And yet and yes, of course it
Speaker 2: is maddening because I had this same argument with people
Speaker 2: in a different form about Jimmy Garoppolo and and now
Speaker 2: folks want to have it again with Brock Purty, and
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm just asking, how did Kirk demonse Kirk
Speaker 2: Cousins elite good, average, below average, awful. Pick a category
Speaker 2: you'd put him in. I know where I.
Speaker 3: Think average and kind of breaks out into elite every
Speaker 3: once in a while.
Speaker 2: I YEA, well, yeah, I said elite good average. So
Speaker 2: it's like in the in between good and average, in
Speaker 2: between good an average. Right, Okay, Kirk Cousins this week
Speaker 2: didn't have Justin Jefferson and you could tell he missed him,
Speaker 2: you know, didn't even throw for two hundred yards. Found
Speaker 2: a way to be functional. Now they're to be fair,
Speaker 2: they're playing the Bears defense versus the Browns defense, right,
Speaker 2: So that's a massive, massive difference. I totally recognize that.
Speaker 2: But the idea if you have to have the league's
Speaker 2: best running back, the league's best left tackle, the second
Speaker 2: best tight end, and a top three wide receiver duo
Speaker 2: in the league in order along with the second best
Speaker 2: play caller in order to be functional, you're not a
Speaker 2: difference maker at the quarterback position. Here's not. And I
Speaker 2: asked to see something. He was given an opportunity to
Speaker 2: make me look like a fool, and instead he got
Speaker 2: out played by PJ. Walker. So I just I don't
Speaker 2: The jury is still out. But I was reading articles
Speaker 2: and this is where and this is the other wildly
Speaker 2: frustrating thing. Folks then say, these arguments are made, and
Speaker 2: then people say, no, it's a straw man. It's not
Speaker 2: a goddamn straw man. Mike Sando, I think it was,
Speaker 2: wrote an article in The Athletic talking to NFL executives
Speaker 2: about is Brock Purdy the next Joe Montana the next
Speaker 2: Tom Brady or and that's not even the problem part
Speaker 2: it was or is he just the next deck acting
Speaker 2: The conversation had been set exactly right, exactly right, that
Speaker 2: his ceiling is two of the greatest ever and his
Speaker 2: floor is, oh, he's just going to be a guy
Speaker 2: who makes hundreds of millions of multiple playoff appearances, multiple
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen win seasons, and as a long time starter,
Speaker 2: that's not his floor. Flatly, Matt Shaub might be his floor.
Speaker 2: That and that might like the the that's the conversation
Speaker 2: we were having. And my I have not moved the goalposts.
Speaker 2: And and this is the last thing I'll say. The
Speaker 2: whole idea of Nick even You've got to admit you
Speaker 2: would have never thought the Niners would be this good
Speaker 2: with Brock perty Guys, I picked the Niners to go
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl last year with a quarterback who
Speaker 2: had thrown forty career passes as their starter in Trey
Speaker 2: Lance forty if that maybe is forty or fifty career passes.
Speaker 2: I and that was before they added Christian mc caffrey. Okay,
Speaker 2: I am a strong believer in that roster. I also
Speaker 2: let me ask one other question, because this this just
Speaker 2: irritates me right now this moment. How many are you
Speaker 2: I'll ask you this, Demanse, right now this moment. Do
Speaker 2: you think the Niners are the favorites to win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: The favorites, favorites to win the Super Bowl? Yeah, I'd say, yeah,
Speaker 3: just about to go Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 3: it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I think I think it is, though.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they literally are. But it's the I mean,
Speaker 2: they are the Vegas favorites right now Okay, but you're
Speaker 2: but it seems like from your reaction, you're it's.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: It could be the Chiefs, could be the Eagles, and
Speaker 2: then there's the Lions lurking or whatever. Okay, let's play
Speaker 2: a game. Replace brock Purty with Spin the Wheel Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Are the Niners the far and away favorites, head and
Speaker 2: shoulders better than everyone? Okay, Let's replace him with Trevor
Speaker 2: Are they the massive favorites? Let's replace him with Jared Goff.
Speaker 2: Are they the massive favorites? Let's replace him Dak Prescott, yep,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts yep, of course, Josh Allen, of course. Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: here's a better one. Replace brock Purty with C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 2: Are the Niners in a better or worse position than
Speaker 2: they're in right now? Better position, of course, which is
Speaker 2: why us talking about him like he's the NFL's MVP
Speaker 2: is maddening. Let's move on next. Replace him, Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2: They might not lose a game, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Said, the Eagles are coming off of an embarrassing loss
Speaker 3: to the Jets. I don't know how embarrassing it is, honestly, but.
Speaker 2: I agree bouncing back.
Speaker 3: Bouncing back won't be easy either, as they hosted Dolphins
Speaker 3: on Sunday night. With how Philia has looked the past
Speaker 3: few games, should we be hammering Dolphins plus two and
Speaker 3: a half?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not in a position to give gambling
Speaker 2: advice right now. I have to recalibrate all of that.
Speaker 2: But I don't think that was an embarrassing loss to
Speaker 2: the Jets. Here's what I do think, Demonse. I do
Speaker 2: think that Nick Sirianni should have gotten way more criticism. Listen,
Speaker 2: Jalen played a bad game, and Jalen's pick at the
Speaker 2: end was terrible, no denying it. But here is what
Speaker 2: is also true. The New York Jets were out of timeouts.
Speaker 2: It was at the two minute warning. It was third
Speaker 2: and nine, and the Eagles were up by two points,
Speaker 2: fourteen to twelve. It's not as if the Jets had
Speaker 2: moved the ball up and down the field any of that.
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's still the quarterback and on third and nine,
Speaker 2: right around midfield with no timeout remaining for the Jets.
Speaker 2: If you run, and if you're Sirianni, you know Hurtz
Speaker 2: doesn't have it today. He's already thrown two picks. If
Speaker 2: you run the football, maybe you pick it up, probably
Speaker 2: you don't. If you pick up eight yards, you're gonna
Speaker 2: run your stupid little brotherly shove play and you're gonna win.
Speaker 2: The game's gonna be over. But let's just say you
Speaker 2: run and you get zero yards. What's the situation. There's
Speaker 2: then a minute fifteen left and you're punting from midfield
Speaker 2: and you are saying, we have the best pass rush
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the best d line in the NFL,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, you need to go sixty five yards with
Speaker 2: no timeouts and a minute five left to beat us,
Speaker 2: and instead you gave the game away. Now Jalen shouldn't
Speaker 2: have made that throw, but it is Sirianni's job to
Speaker 2: protect his team. And if you have a pass rush
Speaker 2: the way you do and you are playing Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: and you have the opportunity to run the ball again,
Speaker 2: the no timeouts thing is critical. You are leaving the
Speaker 2: Jets about sixty five seconds to go the length not
Speaker 2: the length of the field, but to go two thirds
Speaker 2: of the field to get into field goal range with
Speaker 2: no timeouts, and instead you throw it and you lose.
Speaker 2: So I think The Eagles are fine ish. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're a dominant team. I didn't think they were
Speaker 2: dominant when they were five and zero. I also think Demontay,
Speaker 2: have you looked at their next eight games? It's yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read it to you real quick. Home for
Speaker 2: the Dolphins at the Commanders, who again a divisional game
Speaker 2: on the road. They did beat them last year, but
Speaker 2: that's not that tough. You should win that game. So
Speaker 2: home for the Dolphins at the Commanders. Then home for
Speaker 2: Dallas at the Chiefs, Home for the Bills, Home for
Speaker 2: the Niners at Dallas at Seattle. That's the next day.
Speaker 2: That is that. That is a you are thrilled if
Speaker 2: you go four and four stretch, if you go five
Speaker 2: and three, you feel unbelievable. And so it's not that
Speaker 2: I'm overly worried about Philly, but they are they That
Speaker 2: was a game they gave away. All Right, what are
Speaker 2: the follow ups here? I had a tweet about the
Speaker 2: brotherly show they want me to do?
Speaker 4: You did have a tweet? I think we're going to
Speaker 4: show it for those on YouTube? Was the time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go ahead, yeah, here it is. This is what
Speaker 2: I wrote. I can't quite explain it. But not only
Speaker 2: have the Eagles hacked the quarterback sneak, turning an eighty
Speaker 2: percent successful play into a ninety eight percent successful play,
Speaker 2: They've also tricked the rest of the league into turning
Speaker 2: an eighty percent successful play into a forty percent successful
Speaker 2: play by failing and imitating them. So this is what
Speaker 2: is wild about what the Eagles have done. The quarterback
Speaker 2: sneak four years was one of the most reliable plays
Speaker 2: in the league. If you need a yard or less,
Speaker 2: you'd run the quarterback sneak and cross teams four out
Speaker 2: of five times. It would work cross teams across years.
Speaker 2: The only team that really had it way way better
Speaker 2: was the Patriots with Brady he was like ninety Okay,
Speaker 2: the Eagles turned that four out of five play into
Speaker 2: a ninety five out of one hundred play with the
Speaker 2: brotherly Shop. The rest of the league must recognize, we
Speaker 2: can't do it. We don't have Jason Kelsey at center,
Speaker 2: we don't have Jalen Hurts at quarterback, we don't practice
Speaker 2: it enough, and now the rest of the league has
Speaker 2: turned there. If you just did the old quarterback sneak,
Speaker 2: you'd be fine most of the time. Instead, they're trying
Speaker 2: to do this other thing, and I watched four teams
Speaker 2: fail at it this weekend. Four teams stop it. Stop
Speaker 2: trying to do something you can't do rest of the league.
Speaker 2: Now folks are asking, have asked me, does this make
Speaker 2: me change my opinion on whether or not the NFL
Speaker 2: is going to outlaw it?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: My argument on the NFL outlawing it is purely an
Speaker 2: esthetic one. I think it is too ugly of a play.
Speaker 2: I know Philly fans get mad when I say that,
Speaker 2: I think and I but now maybe it's a They
Speaker 2: don't have the outlaw it because it solves itself if
Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey retires and if Jalen hurts at some point,
Speaker 2: says guys, I, I, you know, enough of a major
Speaker 2: part of our offense being twenty guys hitting me from
Speaker 2: different sides. I, you know, I think I'm over that
Speaker 2: piece of it. But it is clear that it is
Speaker 2: unique to Philadelphia right now, and it has had downstream
Speaker 2: effects hurting the rest of the league trying to imitate them.
Speaker 2: All right, next, last one?
Speaker 4: All Right?
Speaker 3: The Bills have only had seven points going into the
Speaker 3: final five minutes of the last two weeks. They needed
Speaker 3: the rest to bail them out, just to beat the
Speaker 3: Giants with Tara Taylor. But there's still four and two
Speaker 3: when they get to go a place face the New
Speaker 3: England Patriots. Why are the Buffalo Bills trying their asses off?
Speaker 3: But the Chiefs are just practicing when this type of
Speaker 3: stuff happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, So again, so a couple things. One is, as
Speaker 2: soon as the Chiefs lose one of these practices that
Speaker 2: I've talked about, people will be able to crow. But
Speaker 2: not only have they not lost, they have not trailed
Speaker 2: for one second in the second half in any game
Speaker 2: since Week one. They have not been in jeopardy of
Speaker 2: losing any of these games. That's first of all. Second
Speaker 2: of all, the Bills only having seven points at the
Speaker 2: five minute marking back to back weeks is concerning flatly.
Speaker 2: And the Bills also don't have games to give away.
Speaker 2: They easily could have lost to the Giants. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna win about the refereeing. They were whining about.
Speaker 2: Refereeing is just so tired. What people are going to
Speaker 2: realize is it's not that they're oh my god, the
Speaker 2: refs always bail out the Chiefs. What they're going to
Speaker 2: realize is every single standalone, nationally televised game that is
Speaker 2: close is going to have a play at the end.
Speaker 2: People can bitch about wait for it this morning, get
Speaker 2: on Twitter later today, and you know what, people are
Speaker 2: going to all of a sudden be realizing, Holy crap,
Speaker 2: did Micah Parsons rough Justin Herbert on that damn near
Speaker 2: game clinching sack? What demanse? Did you see it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the And so the reason people think the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: benefiting disproportionately is because the Chiefs are on national TV
Speaker 2: every single week, and they win every team that wins
Speaker 2: a nationally televised close game. If the way you want
Speaker 2: to consume pro football is find a way to discuss
Speaker 2: the refs, you're gonna be able to find a play.
Speaker 2: I would argue what the Bills did at the end
Speaker 2: of that game was actually super smart because they recognize
Speaker 2: there's a little hack to end of game officiating. They
Speaker 2: almost ever call the exact same penalty twice two times
Speaker 2: in a row. So once you get called for pass
Speaker 2: interference on the final play of the game, you know
Speaker 2: what you should do on the untimedown pass interfere Because
Speaker 2: refs don't want to call the same penalty two times
Speaker 2: in a row to end a game. They just don't.
Speaker 2: And so I got no problem what the Bills did
Speaker 2: where I now what I will say is and I
Speaker 2: tweeted this as well, and this is another one of
Speaker 2: those things that I just know I'm right on. So
Speaker 2: I don't care. I like sometimes I send out these
Speaker 2: tweets and I'm like, oh my god, like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get ratio. People are gonna, you know, say I'm a
Speaker 2: hater or whatever it is. But I know I'm right.
Speaker 2: So that Josh Allen touchdown pass was one of the
Speaker 2: single most impressive throws anyone has made all year, and
Speaker 2: a terrible decision. And why I don't trust the Bills.
Speaker 2: So Demonse's laughing, and I understand people are like, Nick,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Here's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: It is second and six, there are four minutes left.
Speaker 2: You are playing the New York Giants, who prior to
Speaker 2: this game had not led in a game all year,
Speaker 2: had not led for a single play all year. Prior
Speaker 2: to this game. They're playing their backup quarterback, and they
Speaker 2: hadn't scored a touchdown in a month, had not scored
Speaker 2: a touchdown a month, you're down two points, you're in
Speaker 2: the red zone. It is second and six. The own
Speaker 2: only thing you can't do is throw a pick. A
Speaker 2: field goal wins you the game. Now, Josh made a
Speaker 2: throw that I don't even know Mahomes can make. Getting
Speaker 2: that velocity on that ball, hitting that tight of a window,
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. But that is absolutely the reason they
Speaker 2: are He is such a hard player to trust. You
Speaker 2: can be wowed by him, but it's hard to trust
Speaker 2: him because that was a bad decision. It worked out,
Speaker 2: and it's one of the best plays I've most impressive
Speaker 2: plays I've ever seen. It also could have cost them
Speaker 2: a game they had no business losing. And so if
Speaker 2: you're going to and this is the nuance to it,
Speaker 2: if you're going to take those types of risk, have
Speaker 2: that type of boom bust quarterback, then I need you
Speaker 2: to not for back to back weeks, have seven points
Speaker 2: at the five minute mark of the fourth quarter. If
Speaker 2: the whole idea behind your team is yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 2: make some mistakes, but man, the upside's so great, then
Speaker 2: you need to not be sitting on seven as the
Speaker 2: game hits the three hour mark. In back to back weeks.
Speaker 2: That's not unfair, Bruce said to me the other day. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, he's the modern day Brett Farv. Brett Farv
Speaker 2: by this point of his career had won multiple MVPs
Speaker 2: and been to multiple Super Bowls and won a championship.
Speaker 2: Not quite the modern day Brett Farv. Like, Yes, the
Speaker 2: modern day Brett Farv minus the championships, the Super Bowl appearances,
Speaker 2: and the league MVPs. So I the and as far
Speaker 2: as why are the Chiefs allowed to practice and other
Speaker 2: teams aren't because they're the defending champions. Because in the
Speaker 2: last five years, the Bill's best year was worse than
Speaker 2: the Chiefs worst year. Okay, in the last since Mahomes
Speaker 2: has been there. Take the chief single worst season losing
Speaker 2: in overtime in the conference championship game. Take the Bill's
Speaker 2: best season getting blown out in the conference championship game
Speaker 2: by Kansas City. Yes, I hold the teams to different standards. Yes,
Speaker 2: a team that has lost once in the last eleven
Speaker 2: months and it was by one point without their second
Speaker 2: and third best player that team, I am going to
Speaker 2: give more of a benefit of the doubt too. I
Speaker 2: am you can call me crazy. I say that is
Speaker 2: the most logical thing ever. And so and also, by
Speaker 2: the way, here's the other margin of error factor the
Speaker 2: Chiefs if they win Sunday. And I'm worried about Sunday
Speaker 2: because the Chargers play the Chiefs tough that they never
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs, but they play them in three point
Speaker 2: games every single year, and at some point the Chargers
Speaker 2: win those will win one of those games. But if
Speaker 2: the Chiefs win on Sunday, they will have essentially locked
Speaker 2: up the division. By mid October, they'll be six and one.
Speaker 2: The Chargers will be two and four, having already lost,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the head to heads, and the
Speaker 2: Raiders are in second place at three and three, and
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo is going to the hospital. Old Luggiddon's back
Speaker 2: looked at. So the Bills, on the other hand, if
Speaker 2: you know, needed to escape against Tyrod Taylor to not
Speaker 2: fall behind the Jets in the standings. These two things
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in What's Right with Nick? Right,
Speaker 2: that was a forty five minute blocks, So we'll try
Speaker 2: to go fast here, and then I forgot to tell
Speaker 2: you guys, we can get to your chat questions in
Speaker 2: the C blocks. You guys can drop those questions here
Speaker 2: in a moment, but Demans, let's get right to it
Speaker 2: before we get to our game. Tear it down or
Speaker 2: turn it around. There's one more topic you guys want
Speaker 2: to ask me about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this weekend, your golden boy Kleb Williams had
Speaker 3: the worst game of his college career. Meanwhile, Wimby's looking
Speaker 3: very solid in preseason. You've been super heavy on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: But if telling them that, have been warning everybody about
Speaker 3: jumping on the Wimby boat. Are you sure that you
Speaker 3: jumped on the wrong generational talent or are you worried
Speaker 3: that you jumped on the wrong.
Speaker 2: No, so listen, if people were talking about Wimby the
Speaker 2: way I'm talking about Caleb, I'd be fine with it.
Speaker 2: I've said, now, it's a little tough in the NFL
Speaker 2: because we break it down by position, not by like
Speaker 2: overall players in the league. But when I've said that
Speaker 2: Caleb is one of the five most valuable football players
Speaker 2: in the world right now moving forward, if you said, hey,
Speaker 2: Jannis Jokic, who else would you rather have for the
Speaker 2: next decade than Wimby, I'd listen to that. That's not
Speaker 2: the conversation that's been had around Victor Winbinyama. The conversation
Speaker 2: has been that by year three, this was what Woje
Speaker 2: said on the night of the draft lottery, by year three,
Speaker 2: he will be head and shoulders, no pun intended, the
Speaker 2: best player in the league, the best offensive player and
Speaker 2: the best defensive player, something only a handful of guys
Speaker 2: have ever been at any point in their careers, the
Speaker 2: best offensive and defensive player in the entire sport. That
Speaker 2: the X Men. That's where what was said about Wimby
Speaker 2: was if he does not end up as one of
Speaker 2: the ten greatest football basketball players ever ever, he's a disappointment.
Speaker 2: What I've said about Caleb is I'd rather have him
Speaker 2: than Justin Herbert. These are not the same things. Now,
Speaker 2: what I will tell you is about both these guys.
Speaker 2: One is I don't know what Wimby is going to
Speaker 2: look like in real games on offense in the beginning,
Speaker 2: but on defense, he absolutely is going to be an
Speaker 2: a defender immediately. And what we're seeing on the hesitation
Speaker 2: people have on even putting shots up in his vicinity
Speaker 2: is true, unbelievable, and so I'm excited to watch it. Listen,
Speaker 2: once the games count, somebody is going to try to
Speaker 2: just go through him. Somebody is gonna see if, okay,
Speaker 2: how much does the wingspan matter? If I push you
Speaker 2: under the basket, And I want to see how he
Speaker 2: reacts to it. But Wimby's preseason could not be going
Speaker 2: better as far as Caleb goes. Find me the college
Speaker 2: player that never has a single bad game. I mean,
Speaker 2: give me a break. The amount of oh, Nick, what
Speaker 2: do you think about Caleb Williams Now the exact same
Speaker 2: thing I thought about him before Notre Dame. Listen, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that because Caleb Williams has set the standard
Speaker 2: so incredibly high that seeing him play a bad game
Speaker 2: feels it generates an allergic reaction. I'm sorry that going
Speaker 2: into the Notre Dame game, this guy had, let me
Speaker 2: get it exactly right, eighty five ive touchdowns to ten picks.
Speaker 2: We had seen him play thirty two games he had
Speaker 2: ten picks, and then in the Notre Dame game he
Speaker 2: was bad. He had three picks and the Notre Dame
Speaker 2: kicked his ass. People are like, uh, what are you
Speaker 2: ready to say about him? Now? What am I ready
Speaker 2: to say about the guy who, on the season has
Speaker 2: twenty nine touchdowns four interceptions and is now even with
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame game, just having the third best season
Speaker 2: by a passer rating perspective in the history of college football.
Speaker 2: I think he's still pretty phenomenal. So no, I'm not
Speaker 2: worried at all about Caleb. I have been impressed by
Speaker 2: Wimby all right, next, all.
Speaker 3: Right and bringing back an whole game today and tear
Speaker 3: it down and turn it around. I'll give you a
Speaker 3: team and you will say whether they should tear it
Speaker 3: down before the trade deadline, or if they should make
Speaker 3: a move for a late season turnaround. First off, we've
Speaker 3: got the Jets. The jets amazing defense has them in
Speaker 3: the playoff conversation, and Rodgers was even seen throwing past
Speaker 3: his pregame Sunday, I know you have doubts, but are
Speaker 3: you really betting.
Speaker 4: Against the sky Er and Rogers? Should the Jets tear
Speaker 4: it down or turn it around?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean I don't think they should tear
Speaker 2: it down. I think they should try to, you know,
Speaker 2: make a playoff push. Obviously, Aaron, Aaron, This idea that
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is gonna play this year is one of
Speaker 2: the most ludicrous things I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 2: I like it, though flatly not gonna happen. You like it?
Speaker 2: How come?
Speaker 4: I like?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 4: Think? Uh, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think he is giving hope to his teammates and
Speaker 3: like kind of keeping them in the game. I think
Speaker 3: he's doing it. I think he's doing it for his team.
Speaker 3: He's no, okay fair. I think that, like, his team
Speaker 3: was obviously really let down when that happened, and I
Speaker 3: feel like he was also let down. He probably felt
Speaker 3: like he let the team down. I think that he's
Speaker 3: trying to keep them in the picture and keep spirits up,
Speaker 3: you know, keep the morale up in the locker room.
Speaker 2: You know what. That is an incredibly generous reading of it.
Speaker 2: You might be correct. I think he wants the attention. Personally,
Speaker 2: I think he wants the attention, and I think there
Speaker 2: is no chance he is back this year. But we'll
Speaker 2: see how it plays out. But in the meantime, that
Speaker 2: Jet where I will admit I was wrong is the
Speaker 2: Jets defense is better than I thought it was gonna
Speaker 2: be good, very good. It's been great. Garrett Wilson I
Speaker 2: thought was, you know, like the tenth, eleventh, twelfth best
Speaker 2: receiver in football. He's been better than that. Breeze Hall's
Speaker 2: been excellent. The offensive line is a problem, and obviously
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's a problem, but credit to the Jets in
Speaker 2: that regard. And what's unbelievable to Monsey is had they
Speaker 2: just not lost to the damn Patriots, they'd really be
Speaker 2: cooking right now, and the Patriots might be the worst
Speaker 2: team in the whole AFC all right now.
Speaker 3: A crazy take like is saying that the Jets would
Speaker 3: be undefeated if they had Aaron Rodgers. Is that like
Speaker 3: a is that a horrible take? I mean they've had one,
Speaker 3: They've had one game that wasn't close, and I think
Speaker 3: it was against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys. Yeah, I don't think they'd have beaten the
Speaker 2: here's the thing about the about the about them being undefeated.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd have beaten the Chiefs the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing. I know you're saying, like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous if they had Aaron Rodgers in that specific game,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson like put up Aaron Rodgers type numbers. It's
Speaker 2: not like they played the Chiefs close with terrible quarterback play.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Like the Patriots game? They you
Speaker 2: know they they definitely beat the Patriots with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: The Patriots, it was a five point game. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry, would you say he's worth three points in general?
Speaker 2: In general? Yes, but I guess two points. One is
Speaker 2: I ain't the Chiefs got up seven team nothing and
Speaker 2: winning cruise control mode because they're playing Zach Wilson and
Speaker 2: the Jets. And secondarily, Zach in that game completed seventy
Speaker 2: five percent of his passes at two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: yards at a one to five rating, two touchdowns, snow
Speaker 2: picks like Aaron I don't think would have done in
Speaker 2: that specific game far better. So I don't know about undefeated.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys game, they got blown out, but they also
Speaker 2: got blown out because of how bad the quarterback play was,
Speaker 2: like a kind of ball started rolling downhill. I do
Speaker 2: think this, and Sala tried to walk it back this morning.
Speaker 2: But if you actually think you're a playoff contender, talking
Speaker 2: on Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes probably a bad idea
Speaker 2: because he said, we've played great quarterbacks and we've.
Speaker 4: Been embarrassed him right, all right, So.
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about that for a second. You definitely
Speaker 2: have to play the Bills again this year, and you hope,
Speaker 2: against hope to have the opportuno to play the Chiefs
Speaker 2: again this year. Maybe don't say you embarrassed those quarterbacks. Patrick,
Speaker 2: he's not scared.
Speaker 4: Maybe don't say it. I don't say what he wants.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, tell that to the folks who were screaming
Speaker 2: about Borrowhead Invitational, about the Boroughhead, about Burrowhead Stadium. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's fine, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Oh, we got Patriots, Come on, and you're seriously
Speaker 3: coming counting out the best coach of all time, the Jets.
Speaker 3: If the Jets can resurrect Zach Wilson, can Belichick resurrect
Speaker 3: Mac Jones?
Speaker 2: Should they tear it down? You got to tear it down.
Speaker 2: Here's a question I asked on the TV show yesterday.
Speaker 2: If the Patriots released every single player on their offense,
Speaker 2: just cut them all, would any one of them start
Speaker 2: start for another team? I don't know, maybe like Trent
Speaker 2: Brown for a team of the bad offensive line, Romandre
Speaker 2: Stevenson for a few teams they have no talent.
Speaker 4: They even tear it down if you don't have any Jesus.
Speaker 2: No, you got it? I mean yeah, I mean you
Speaker 2: can hope to get Caleb you can. You just got
Speaker 2: to tear it all down. And this is going to
Speaker 2: be an ignominious end for Belichick. Car so fast next, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Vikings Kirk Cousins said he wouldn't wave his no trade clause,
Speaker 3: But do we really believe that with no justin Jefferson,
Speaker 3: maybe it's time to rebuild.
Speaker 4: Should the Vikings tear it down and turn it around?
Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely believe it that he wouldn't wave his
Speaker 2: no trade clause. He's trying to get another Giant payday
Speaker 2: and going to another team in a new system doesn't
Speaker 2: help him with that. He's comfortable in Minnesota, he likes
Speaker 2: it there. It's indoors. They but they should tear it down.
Speaker 2: I mean they've got to start over. You build around
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson and not much else. That's what you do
Speaker 2: there next. I like Addison too.
Speaker 3: You've been teasing that Russell Wilson's time has already done,
Speaker 3: even if the Broncos are dragging their feet. But Denver
Speaker 3: has a lot of pieces they could trade now for
Speaker 3: a kickstart to rebuild. Should the Bronco tear it down
Speaker 3: or turn it around?
Speaker 2: No, they obviously have to tear it down, and I
Speaker 2: mean they also have a chance at Caleb if not
Speaker 2: another quarterback. They're gonna tear it down. They're gonna cut
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson this offseason, and I think he's gonna get
Speaker 2: benched after the Chiefs game. They have two more games
Speaker 2: then they have a bye week. The Chiefs game is
Speaker 2: the second one, the one leading into the bye week.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna bench him there. Put your questions
Speaker 2: in the chat now and we'll answer him. Next quick
Speaker 2: break right back, what's right? All right, we'll go through
Speaker 2: a few quick questions. By the way, a programming note today,
Speaker 2: today the TV show is only thirty minutes long two
Speaker 2: to two thirty because we have live programming on FS one.
Speaker 2: We'll be back to our regular schedule tomorrow. But that
Speaker 2: means we got jam back TV show because it's Tuesday,
Speaker 2: which means it's Mahomes Mountain Day. And spoiler alert, Caleb
Speaker 2: tripped on the mountain but did not fall off the mountain.
Speaker 2: I'm not that crazy, all right, demanse, what are some
Speaker 2: of the questions that we have from the audience.
Speaker 3: Joshua Harbin said, people are actually forgetting their party still
Speaker 3: had Kittle and Ayuk San Francisco fans are so funny.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, listen, he was down his two
Speaker 2: best weapons, so all he had left was a one
Speaker 2: really good receiver and the second best tight end in football.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just an impossible situation.
Speaker 3: Next, Mohammed musa question. If NBA players started shooting granny
Speaker 3: style free throws at ninety percent, would Nick won it
Speaker 3: banned for esthetic reasons?
Speaker 4: Great question?
Speaker 2: No, they yeah, it's a fine question. But we never
Speaker 2: have to worry about that because guys have too much
Speaker 2: pride to try to gain the system like that. Like
Speaker 2: give me a break. You're like, oh, yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: they should do. No, it's not what they should do.
Speaker 2: This is the entertainment business, and there is a professional
Speaker 2: pride in doing things the way they're supposed to be done.
Speaker 2: So I know people give me a hard time about that.
Speaker 2: The entire goal is to win kind of.
Speaker 4: But it's also history with the touch plus thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and the more team that fail on it, the
Speaker 2: more respect Philly gets for it. That it's not like
Speaker 2: that that it is they have gained the system in
Speaker 2: a way that is unique to their personnel, which is
Speaker 2: I think more impressive than otherwise.
Speaker 3: Next toush Bush is like a button on your back.
Speaker 3: Clark Nebras or nebres Is Nick. Is Ion still a
Speaker 3: top young player or has the hype sailed?
Speaker 2: No, he's still a top young player in theory, and
Speaker 2: when he's played he's been unbelievable. But you have to
Speaker 2: be worried about him on court and off court. So
Speaker 2: like there is the I wouldn't sell my Zion stock,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be buying more.
Speaker 4: Of it, all right.
Speaker 3: Next Ember, Lindo Garzan asks, should the Jaguars sit Trevor
Speaker 3: this Thursday?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'd probably not. You got to see how
Speaker 2: his knee feels. You gotta be careful with him, but
Speaker 2: you also got to win games all of a sudden
Speaker 2: with the with the Texans being a legit frisk team,
Speaker 2: you can't give games away, and so you try to
Speaker 2: protect Trevor. But if he can go, he goes. All right,
Speaker 2: ask CF Candy's question and then we'll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see Nick. Do you think Caleb goes back
Speaker 3: to us? See if the Bears have the first round pick.
Speaker 2: The first No, this is such a ridiculous idea. First
Speaker 2: of all, guess what, guys, Every team ever that gets
Speaker 2: the first overall pick stinks. There's not a lot of
Speaker 2: instances like, oh, going to this great franchise with the
Speaker 2: first overall pick. No, you're not. Second of all, the
Speaker 2: Bears have their pick and the Panthers pick. So if
Speaker 2: Caleb goes to Chicago, it's an incredible It's a division.
Speaker 2: The Packers are in rebuild, the Vikings are in rebuild.
Speaker 2: You also probably can draft Marvin Harrison junior and they're
Speaker 2: gonna hire it an awesome I said it a month ago.
Speaker 2: Draft Caleb at one, Marvin Harrison Junior at two or three,
Speaker 2: and then hire Ben Johnson from Detroit and get rolling
Speaker 2: Demont's great work. Today, everybody, I'm on with Colin in
Speaker 2: ninety minutes. I'm then doing the TV show at two.
Speaker 2: I'm then on Ethan Sherwood Strauss's podcast later today. I'll
Speaker 2: see you guys for all that stuff. Have a wonderful day.
Speaker 2: See you guys on TV today at two o'clock for
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