Speaker 1: Really now, really.
Speaker 2: Really now, really, Hello everybody, Welcome back to another exciting rendition.
Speaker 1: Excit whom channeling?
Speaker 2: I'm channeling somebody who is through the Snagglepuss. It's kind
Speaker 2: of snaggle snaggle pus. I never know whom said, my
Speaker 2: name is Jason Alexander.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 2: And we had the co hosts of Really No Really,
Speaker 2: the podcast where we explore things that make us say
Speaker 2: really no really. So I'm going to start off with
Speaker 2: a little story. Years ago, I was in a movie
Speaker 2: called Love Valor Compassion, and the end of that movie
Speaker 2: is myself and six wonderful actors go in skinny dipping
Speaker 2: in a lake in a quarry. We shot this film
Speaker 2: in boharn Wah, which is about twenty miles north of Montreal.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the summer.
Speaker 2: But we went into that lake at one o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning, and I don't know what temperature it was.
Speaker 2: I can only tell you it instantly took our breath away.
Speaker 1: None of us could take a deep breath.
Speaker 2: And we're supposed to look like we're folliging and having
Speaker 2: the best time. We There was a ten minute magazine
Speaker 2: of film on the cameras. So for ten straight minutes,
Speaker 2: we're in this water, no dialogue, having a delicious good
Speaker 2: time and chilled and pained to the bone. We come out,
Speaker 2: we are miserable, We are shaking, you can feel it
Speaker 2: in your bones. And they go take two and we
Speaker 2: have to go back in and all I can tell you,
Speaker 2: on top of everything else, none of us had a
Speaker 2: genital of any.
Speaker 1: Female or anything in between.
Speaker 2: Sherlock Holmes looking with the spy glass, going there's nothing
Speaker 2: so to me, the idea of going.
Speaker 1: Into cold cold voluntarily, right is anathema. So we had
Speaker 1: both on Adam's show, which Adam Kroller Show, which is
Speaker 1: which is great. I love at him. It seems to
Speaker 1: be a popular show some yeah, I think. And he
Speaker 1: had just mentioned as we were talking about the Cold
Speaker 1: Plunge that he gets up and gets into cold water.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to know more about the cold Plunge.
Speaker 1: Was it a tech thing? Like is it? These tech
Speaker 1: guys came up with a silicon valley? And Adam's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy who I'm always fascinated with because he
Speaker 1: does stuff I do nothing I like. Homi collects care cars,
Speaker 1: he does TV shows, he writes movies. He's very happy.
Speaker 2: He was the father of the broadcasting industry. You know,
Speaker 2: he was in it just about before anyone in Buck
Speaker 2: of breactice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think still. So we want to get at
Speaker 1: him on because I wanted to find his stake, because
Speaker 1: I knew he probably had an unusual take about why
Speaker 1: he decided to do the ice plunge. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that has to do with mental health. You think
Speaker 1: with Adham, I wouldn't guess that necessarily. I've met Adam. Well,
Speaker 1: let's see he's there. He looks very good today. You
Speaker 1: look really handsome today. The heather in the heather hoodie.
Speaker 1: It's a very powerful man. Look at you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. So you don't strike me as
Speaker 1: miss Greg a lefty, which I also like.
Speaker 3: I'm a lefty as well, my friend. But we shouldn't
Speaker 3: make too big a deal.
Speaker 1: No, we're going to die. Wow we die? Wow? Yeah? Wow.
Speaker 1: So in this very studio and we're in Howie's studio,
Speaker 1: should we brokass him? Adam was on and I also
Speaker 1: then saw him say, doesn't use the odorant, doesn't take
Speaker 1: a shower, that the fool is enough cleans everything. So
Speaker 1: you had a unique take on that. Why did you
Speaker 1: start doing what? What clicked with you to say I'm
Speaker 1: going to do this ice punch I'm going to try Well,
Speaker 1: I I heard enough people it's probably been about six
Speaker 1: seven years now. I heard enough people talking about it,
Speaker 1: saying it was good for you. And then I sort
Speaker 1: of followed down the path of everything you don't want
Speaker 1: to do is good for you. You know, eating eating
Speaker 1: broccolini instead of fudge is good for you. Working out
Speaker 1: versus watching TV's good for you. Hugging people and telling
Speaker 1: you you love them, very painful, but good, you know.
Speaker 1: And so there's I sort of subscribe to the sort
Speaker 1: of nature. You know, when you're sweating, when it's hurting,
Speaker 1: when you don't think you can do another rep, you
Speaker 1: do another rep. And that's what's good for you.
Speaker 3: And so if getting into a frozen swimming pool every
Speaker 3: morning is miserable, it must be good for you.
Speaker 1: So wait, is the theory in order to do extreme
Speaker 1: things in life, you got to force yourself to do
Speaker 1: extreme things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel there's a physiological benefit other people could
Speaker 3: tell you about. I'm not really interested in the physiological
Speaker 3: benefit of it. That is a happy byproduct of it.
Speaker 3: I'm more focused on you starting every day by doing
Speaker 3: something you don't want to do and sort of setting
Speaker 3: the table for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Well, I do that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get out of a mish man,
Speaker 2: but I'm not. You seem to do you really? I'm serious?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Do you gravitate towards things that are challenging or uncomfortable
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: Do you like that sort of perule you do? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 3: I you know people you know, they always go, what
Speaker 3: made you want to do Dancing with the Stars? I go,
Speaker 3: Nothing made me want to do Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3: I didn't request to be on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3: I would have been happy to never been on Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars. But they asked me, and it scared me.
Speaker 3: And once I realized I was scared, which I definitely was,
Speaker 3: then I realized, now I need to do it, because
Speaker 3: otherwise I'm just sort of running away from this thing
Speaker 3: that I'm not good at, which is dancing.
Speaker 1: So have you done have all? Right?
Speaker 2: So I'm I don't think I could skydive. I have
Speaker 2: a fear of ice. Have you done stuff like that? I?
Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of you know, things that
Speaker 3: would have you would, you know, constitute a sort of
Speaker 3: extreme sports. But if you invited me to go skydiving,
Speaker 3: I would say yes, I would job just on the
Speaker 3: off chance I would run into Tom Cruise, we could
Speaker 3: strike up a conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, strap yourself telling me to go together and tan them.
Speaker 1: Because so if you.
Speaker 3: Saw I'm talking mid air, I'm not even talking about
Speaker 3: the plane ride. God, I'm talking. There's a fifty to
Speaker 3: fifty chance he will be next to you.
Speaker 1: Just look over.
Speaker 2: He to me up there for some reason, he's there already. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's hanging out.
Speaker 1: So if you think at him, if you think back,
Speaker 1: how many things have you done in the past that
Speaker 1: were outside of your comfort zone that you remember? Because
Speaker 1: I read about the dancing with the sitars thing, and
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, there's no way if it was
Speaker 1: a hostage crisis, I would get out of that. There's
Speaker 1: no I would do it. And I gave you a
Speaker 1: lot of credit because I knew that that was not
Speaker 1: your Ballywick. What other stuff did you say yes to
Speaker 1: or seek out? It was really outside your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: That's surprised even you.
Speaker 3: Well, look, when I was younger, I entered into the
Speaker 3: Golden Gloves competition to box out here in LA and
Speaker 3: that scared me. I recently did the Mass singer and
Speaker 3: I can't sing. I can't sing as any you know,
Speaker 3: dancing and singing are the same for me, you know.
Speaker 1: No, Tommy tuone, so not going to happen. But you
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 2: I'm one of nine people tell me too, and actually
Speaker 2: gave me my Tony Award.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, Adam, you've been he's laughing. You've
Speaker 1: been doing the podcast since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: You really were kind of like one of the first
Speaker 2: guys in, were you not?
Speaker 1: There wasn't much having one of them? Yeah. Now, But
Speaker 1: the interesting thing because I want you and I kind
Speaker 1: of know you a bit and I've listened to you
Speaker 1: for years. I don't think you do stuff to go?
Speaker 1: How many downloads am I going to get on this?
Speaker 1: Don't you don't live your life that way? I'm guessing yes. No.
Speaker 3: I don't really have expectations before I enter whatever endeavor
Speaker 3: I've gotten involved with. I just base it on do
Speaker 3: you want to do it or do you not want
Speaker 3: to do it? And is it what you do? And
Speaker 3: would you do it for free? Kind of a one
Speaker 3: of the yardsticks kind of measure should you be doing it?
Speaker 3: Would you be doing it anyway? And if the answer
Speaker 3: is yes, then I just moved forward. But the entire
Speaker 3: field of comedy for me was always that I just
Speaker 3: wanted to get off a construction site into a building
Speaker 3: with a microphone and do something, and that was about it.
Speaker 3: I never really thought about compensation or legacy or name recognition.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to leave this one place, go someplace else,
Speaker 3: and do something else.
Speaker 2: Was that characteristic always for you were even as a kid,
Speaker 2: or was it something that a sort of a change
Speaker 2: of life moment.
Speaker 1: Well, when I was a kid, I was kind.
Speaker 3: Of a long for the ride because my family was
Speaker 3: pretty broken and they didn't have any money.
Speaker 1: And then when I.
Speaker 3: Got out of high school, I didn't go to college.
Speaker 3: I knew I had to work. I needed money, I
Speaker 3: needed to support myself. I just sort of took whatever
Speaker 3: job was open, and that was construction labor.
Speaker 1: And I did that for a number of years.
Speaker 3: And once I sort of got out of survival mode,
Speaker 3: because survival it's hard. You know, when you get pushed
Speaker 3: off the back of a cruise ship, the only mode
Speaker 3: you're in is survival mode. You're not in Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about starting a tech company. You know, you're thinking
Speaker 3: about finding land, you know what I mean? And so
Speaker 3: I was in fine land mode from you know, age
Speaker 3: three to age twenty three. But once at age twenty three,
Speaker 3: i'd found you know, some land. I had a job,
Speaker 3: I drove a truck. Then once I got Survival that
Speaker 3: part down, I started thinking, Now, what's what would thrive
Speaker 3: mode look like? What would what would it look like
Speaker 3: to have a life where you just didn't exist but
Speaker 3: you actually did things and had experiences and met people
Speaker 3: that were interesting. What would that life look like? And
Speaker 3: that's when I embarked on the second chapter, And.
Speaker 1: That's you went growling. You started doing improv, you started
Speaker 1: to find and an amazing thing about your career too,
Speaker 1: is it you were calling k Rock as a fan,
Speaker 1: as a listener. That's how you were discovered, which is
Speaker 1: pretty insane way to go, right, what are the chances
Speaker 1: that you do it? And then you trained Jimmy to box,
Speaker 1: I mean out of nowhere, you said, I'd volunteered to
Speaker 1: tange Jimmy to box somebody, and from that you got
Speaker 1: a career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I train while I was working
Speaker 4: as a boxing trainer, so you know, wasn't completely out
Speaker 4: of left field.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't calling in to train Jimmy Kimmel to box.
Speaker 3: I was calling in to train Jimmy or the guy
Speaker 3: or his opponent, oh, anybody. I didn't know either one
Speaker 3: of them. No, favorite doesn't know when Jimmy wasn't Jimmy,
Speaker 3: I didn't know who he was. But had I got
Speaker 3: my lover it though.
Speaker 1: But once you got in, were you were you? Was
Speaker 1: it a plan? Did you see openings and say I'm
Speaker 1: going to do that and really went for it or
Speaker 1: was it really luck well?
Speaker 3: I I got in intentionally to see the radio station
Speaker 3: and to physically I just physically wanted to see the
Speaker 3: inside of the radio station and and know how it
Speaker 3: worked to do radio because I was interested in radio.
Speaker 1: And once I.
Speaker 3: Met Jimmy, and Jimmy made it clear that he thought
Speaker 3: I had some ability, uh and that that maybe there's
Speaker 3: something I could do. Then my next mode was what
Speaker 3: how can I convince Jimmy to let me do something
Speaker 3: on this morning radio show Kevin and Ban.
Speaker 1: Bengos, it was it was you were working it at
Speaker 1: that point, and then all of a sudden and then
Speaker 1: the Bit came about, and then Loveline and then you
Speaker 1: don't talk about it much, but you're gonna were a
Speaker 1: book of records. As far as downloads, what was the
Speaker 1: amount of downloads that you got for for the.
Speaker 3: There's a plaque on the wall somewhere here, but it's
Speaker 3: not in front of me, so I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just remember thinking this is a oh, I would have
Speaker 3: a eduable record.
Speaker 1: A billion down, over a billion downloads.
Speaker 2: Adam, you really were one of the biggest and earliest
Speaker 2: successes in this. Do you have any particular take on
Speaker 2: what's happening in podcasting, where it's going, what it's become,
Speaker 2: what's good, what's been you know, it's it's become an
Speaker 2: industry before.
Speaker 1: And you were there really before it was that.
Speaker 3: You know, when I started, there was a handful of
Speaker 3: podcast I heard the other day there were like five
Speaker 3: point five million podcasts that were out currently. And it'll
Speaker 3: probably take the same trajectory as American automotive manufacturing in
Speaker 3: the thirties or something, which is there was no automotive manufacturing.
Speaker 1: Then there was Ford.
Speaker 3: Then there were a whole bunch of other independent manufacturers,
Speaker 3: you know, Dusenberg and cord and white, and you know,
Speaker 3: if you just go to Leno's warehouse and you'll see
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of American cars you've never heard of. Right,
Speaker 3: And then at some point it so it got saturated
Speaker 3: and then it got kind of reconsolidated a little bit,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, the ones that were working kind
Speaker 3: of fluffed off and the ones that were working remained.
Speaker 3: And so I think we're going to go through a
Speaker 3: sort of an ebb and a flow.
Speaker 1: When I when I came to Jason, and so I
Speaker 1: had this idea for this. It's selfish because I get
Speaker 1: to see him. If I didn't do this, he'd be
Speaker 1: traveling and doing shrow business without me. So this isn't
Speaker 1: distinctly show business.
Speaker 2: But as gentlemen kisses, so anybody Jason is thinking, is
Speaker 2: this his career?
Speaker 1: So when I started talking about it, there were three
Speaker 1: million podcasts at him. By the time we started working
Speaker 1: a four million, and you're wrong. There are over six
Speaker 1: million podcasts. I think while really, while I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it, it went up out. If there was a
Speaker 1: reel behind us, it would just be spinning around the
Speaker 1: national debt. But the joy of getting to do this,
Speaker 1: of all the podcasts he'd done, the thousands of hours,
Speaker 1: is there something that stands out? Is there one or
Speaker 1: two where you go this was pretty neat for me,
Speaker 1: pretty amazing.
Speaker 3: I had one of the surviving members of the band,
Speaker 3: Leonard skinnerd walk me through in great detail the plane crash,
Speaker 3: what happened, who died, how it worked, where he went,
Speaker 3: you know, the entire process of that flight, that faithful flight,
Speaker 3: the flight were half the banned, where they were sitting
Speaker 3: on the plane, what essentially killed them, and it was
Speaker 3: haunting and interesting. And the other one just sort of
Speaker 3: on that subject is I was talking. I interviewed the
Speaker 3: Sealed Team member that killed Bin Laden, and he literally
Speaker 3: just walked me through that night the same way. You know,
Speaker 3: up the staircase, who was in front of him, what
Speaker 3: they were yelling, who was behind him, who they encountered
Speaker 3: on the second floor, the women, you know, all of it,
Speaker 3: and it just in the in the kind of detail
Speaker 3: that you obviously couldn't get to if you were telling
Speaker 3: the story on a late night TV show or many
Speaker 3: other forums.
Speaker 1: You know, all the time in the world to.
Speaker 3: Really go through in very fine detail, granular detail of
Speaker 3: that flight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, killing Bin laden you know, and you were there.
Speaker 1: Robert O'Neill, by.
Speaker 3: The way, is the name I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: of the Navy team leader. I feel like I felt
Speaker 3: like I was there for both.
Speaker 2: Those those having heard that did zero Dark thirty sort
Speaker 2: of get it right in their depiction of it.
Speaker 1: It was zero Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I think those guys always sort of say that
Speaker 3: got some of it right. They didn't get other parts,
Speaker 3: you know, right, But I think I recall him saying
Speaker 3: that was pretty close.
Speaker 2: Remember, I was going to change something, you know, because
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all the things you do that you
Speaker 2: do in a sort of unique and way, and I
Speaker 2: want to make sure I have this right because I've
Speaker 2: never seen you do stand up live, but I catch
Speaker 2: a lot of you on some of the comedy channels,
Speaker 2: on the serious XM, and it seems to me that
Speaker 2: you are doing a spontaneous act that people will throw
Speaker 2: a topic or a title at you and you riff.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That? Am I perceiving that correctly?
Speaker 3: Part of what I do when I do stand up
Speaker 3: is hand out ping pong balls to the audience before
Speaker 3: the show. They write one word on the ping pong ball,
Speaker 3: and then the ping pong balls are collected and put
Speaker 3: into a bingo hopper and then we spin them around.
Speaker 3: Someone on stage does it at the end of the
Speaker 3: show and pulls the ball out. Whatever the word is,
Speaker 3: then I must do a stand up bit on the
Speaker 3: word that's on the ping.
Speaker 2: Pong How did you How did you know you could
Speaker 2: do that? How did you even come up with the
Speaker 2: thought of wanting to try and do it? Because I
Speaker 2: understand you like the things that are challenging, potentially dangerous,
Speaker 2: and that certainly sounds like a fine example.
Speaker 1: But how did you know you could that you had
Speaker 1: that skill? Because it's really good.
Speaker 2: By the way, those are really really funny observations, and
Speaker 2: only funny, but they have a craft to them where
Speaker 2: it's it has sort of a natural flow, like a beginning,
Speaker 2: middle end to the routine.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if it were crafted and written, but
Speaker 2: there's it's clear that you are doing it spontaneously.
Speaker 1: Well. Thanks.
Speaker 3: It was Jimmy Kimmel's idea, essentially, He's always just said
Speaker 3: you can just talk about anything any I remember, I
Speaker 3: remember somebody I was sitting around with Jimmy once and
Speaker 3: a reporter for some reason or something.
Speaker 1: And he said to this guy.
Speaker 3: Adam could do am to turn anything into a comedy bit,
Speaker 3: anything anything.
Speaker 1: If you just bring up something, I'll turn into a
Speaker 1: comedy bit.
Speaker 3: And the guy was drinking a coffee and he had
Speaker 3: a little plastic ster stick in it, and he pulled
Speaker 3: out the st stick and he said, do a routine
Speaker 3: on the ster stick. And I did twenty minutes on
Speaker 3: a ster stick. Jimmy went, all right, well, then he
Speaker 3: can do anything.
Speaker 1: So you're you're confident on the stage that you can
Speaker 1: do it doesn't matter what what you pick up. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm confident and I that I can do it.
Speaker 3: But I will admit that just like with any form,
Speaker 3: there are tricks.
Speaker 1: There are techniques. You know. It's not all pure, is
Speaker 1: it may sound.
Speaker 3: You know, there are times when somebody brings something up
Speaker 3: and you think, man, I got nothing, I got nothing
Speaker 3: for this, And then you go, you know, I got
Speaker 3: nothing for this. I'll tell you who else doesn't have anything.
Speaker 3: My brother, let me tell you about it.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say to coffee to buffet, I
Speaker 1: got it survival. And the audience thinks you're doing the
Speaker 1: thing that's on the road.
Speaker 3: You just slid into something you could do, which is
Speaker 3: but now if Jason listens and I thank you, you
Speaker 3: will hear that ninety two percent of the time, whatever's
Speaker 3: on the ball shall be addressed directly.
Speaker 1: I look at that, you see for your eager you
Speaker 1: have to go back and go However, yeah, high, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I heard almost two dozen separate clips of you
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 3: It's not sleight of hand, but there are occasions where
Speaker 3: you will use little massages and techniques and things things
Speaker 3: of that nature, much like sometimes when you see a
Speaker 3: comedian doing crowd work, he's not really doing total spontaneous
Speaker 3: crowd work. He's doing the crowd.
Speaker 1: Work right right. So let's get back though for a minute,
Speaker 1: to the ice plunch? Do you do anything else like
Speaker 1: the ice plunch? That's that's trendy? Do you eat only
Speaker 1: food that's brown? You? Do you do the intermittent fasting trendy?
Speaker 1: Do you do the jump rope? You know, there's so
Speaker 1: much stuff in preparing today. I saw the Tiffany Hattish
Speaker 1: actually proposed dringing a little turpentine would be good, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, the fart paint off your wall. We're
Speaker 1: just drinking turpentine going to do for you. So are
Speaker 1: is there any other stuff that you do that's kind
Speaker 1: of yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't do anything that would be considered you know,
Speaker 3: off the beaten path, like the cold plunges.
Speaker 1: I do do the intermittent fasting. Uh, there you go.
Speaker 1: And that's a thing that I did.
Speaker 3: Realize that about seventy percent of eating with sort of
Speaker 3: habitual and emotional, you know, I found myself. I'll give
Speaker 3: you a good example. If you schedule a lunch hour
Speaker 3: into your day, you will eat lunch every single day.
Speaker 3: If you don't schedule lunch in you will eat lunch
Speaker 3: and you don't really miss it.
Speaker 1: You really don't. You know.
Speaker 3: It takes about a week to sort of, you know,
Speaker 3: transfer into that mindset, but you really.
Speaker 1: I don't schedule lunch.
Speaker 3: I just go to work and I work, and then
Speaker 3: I go home and I eat dinner, and I don't
Speaker 3: I don't miss it. And I realized that lunch. When
Speaker 3: I work construction, i'd show up on the job site
Speaker 3: at seven am and start thinking about lunch because I
Speaker 3: hated the job and I couldn't wait to just sit
Speaker 3: down on a pile of drywall and eat a burrito
Speaker 3: for half an hour considering what I was doing. But
Speaker 3: I realized it was more psychological than it was physiological.
Speaker 1: And there's those of.
Speaker 3: You who are listening who go, no, I get low
Speaker 3: blood sugar.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: You know whatever, Drink some coffee in the morning, put
Speaker 3: some heavy cream in it, drink, drink a cup or
Speaker 3: two and leave the house. You'll be fine. And so
Speaker 3: you're down to one meal. My one meal a day
Speaker 3: is not kale the way I'm wired. And just so
Speaker 3: you should know, a lot of this for me is
Speaker 3: like I am going to forego lunch and I am
Speaker 3: going to forego breakfast, but I'm I'm not eating seaweed
Speaker 3: for dinner.
Speaker 1: I'm having a pizza, right and a beer.
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to join myself, but I will delay
Speaker 3: it so I can't.
Speaker 1: And why do you need have pizza stuff? You could
Speaker 1: have kale? Don't you get those lectured I mean people
Speaker 1: who try and convert you to veganism or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I love that, And you go, well, pizza is not
Speaker 1: that unhealthy as a matter of fact. Great, but well,
Speaker 1: and what was calee? I never I don't remember what
Speaker 1: year did kale appear? Same year as tilapia? Yeah, fish.
Speaker 1: That's not a real fish.
Speaker 2: There's no When I was growing up, there was not
Speaker 2: a tilapia in the sea. All of a sudden, everything's
Speaker 2: a tilapia.
Speaker 1: And my mother never said kale, let's have kale for dinner.
Speaker 1: What was it? Didn't we know what it was.
Speaker 3: It's somewhere in between cabbage and lattice and unnecessary.
Speaker 1: Do you know where kill was?
Speaker 2: It was underneath the potato salad on the Coastalina.
Speaker 1: It was china potato. I'm making a thing.
Speaker 3: Tail was a substrate that you would put an ice
Speaker 3: cream scooper of tuna salad off.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's substrate. I have a.
Speaker 3: Theory that people eat way too many turkey sandwiches and
Speaker 3: not nearly enough egg salad sandwiches. And I say that
Speaker 3: people like egg salad sandwiches, they just don't order.
Speaker 1: That because I don't know about you, but I grew
Speaker 1: up in a Rohoman Philly. We didn't have a ton
Speaker 1: of money. You made an egg at home, you don't
Speaker 1: order it to order it out. I can have it
Speaker 1: at home. Why am I paying? My phone will go
Speaker 1: where are you pain have an egg out? We can
Speaker 1: have an egg at home. Eat something you can't have
Speaker 1: at home. When you eat that, I had pressure. We
Speaker 1: used to go to buffet and we would rehearse because
Speaker 1: it's a shrimp. Don't load up on that. I still
Speaker 1: walk into a pfeted in. I get nervous because I
Speaker 1: hear my dad. It was like a military maneuver I
Speaker 1: want you to do. You're an idiot. You're an idiot.
Speaker 1: We have salad at home, but we used to have assignments.
Speaker 2: You get you're doing seafood, you're doing meats, you're doing
Speaker 2: interesting vegetables.
Speaker 1: Don't get stupid. So egg, I love excelad out by
Speaker 1: the way, What can you do? I always get on
Speaker 1: the mountain rice pudding. Oh wow, fantastic. That is a
Speaker 1: power mode. That's you bet, that's a discern channel. Well,
Speaker 1: but Adam used to be like me, worked in the
Speaker 1: radio station for a lot a lot of years. And
Speaker 1: what would happen at the radio station if you get
Speaker 1: hungry there? Your choices are a ligament sandwich, which is
Speaker 1: like meat that you can't it's like a missionin tire,
Speaker 1: and two pieces of bread you don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: and then bad snacks. They never had anything egg salad
Speaker 1: in the machine. At the radio station, it was always
Speaker 1: a ligament sandwich, right, didn't you eat from the carousel
Speaker 1: of death? At the radio station, we didn't even have
Speaker 1: a carousel.
Speaker 3: We had a coffee maker and a powdered substance that
Speaker 3: didn't say creamer, It literally said whitener.
Speaker 1: Right, when are you right? There wasn't They didn't.
Speaker 3: Want to be sued by the dairy counsel and say
Speaker 3: the word crazy. Literally, We're going to change the color
Speaker 3: of your coffee, and that was their only promise.
Speaker 1: And I always felt that people made that in a
Speaker 1: plant wearing headgear like has meat suits because they didn't
Speaker 1: want to have breathed it in and I'm pouring it in
Speaker 1: my coffee.
Speaker 2: See, but you guys, I would have had I would
Speaker 2: look so much different today if I hadn't done Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: and if Seinfeld hadn't been so successful, because you know,
Speaker 2: we had catering. I was in I was in Jerry's
Speaker 2: office when a caterer came in to audition for the
Speaker 2: job of being the caterer for the season, and she asked,
Speaker 2: what is the budget I'd be working with? And Jerry
Speaker 2: looked at her like she had three heads and went unlimited,
Speaker 2: unlimited budget for cater we would have.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell it, because I come coming
Speaker 1: like to the promis Land. So I've worked on sitcoms before.
Speaker 1: You have a barrel of licorice, that red liquorice, red vines.
Speaker 1: You have a couple of bars of like nature valley bars,
Speaker 1: an apple, a banana from three weeks ago, and that's
Speaker 1: about it. I go to this is Jason at Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: First off, it's like Steven Spielberg when you opened that
Speaker 1: warehouse and it went forever the table. You couldn't see
Speaker 1: the end of it, and it was terreens of stuff.
Speaker 1: It was like guys were messing around just to see
Speaker 1: if they could get like a side of beef. It
Speaker 1: was anything.
Speaker 2: It was full catered meals twice a day catered, and
Speaker 2: it was I gained.
Speaker 1: I gained nine seasons. So before we go any so
Speaker 1: the ice bonge we know you do even though, but
Speaker 1: you seem like a guy who enjoys.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm getting from you. You are very
Speaker 2: comfortable doing the uncomfortable if you think there will be
Speaker 2: a side benefit to it of any kind.
Speaker 3: I I'll further that by saying I believe the side
Speaker 3: benefit is engaging in the uncomfortable behavior for its own
Speaker 3: sake or its own sake.
Speaker 1: You've boxed, You've done movies, You've done a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: This is why I uh, I'm not. I'm not. We're
Speaker 1: not We're not the same, We're not the same spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even like I avoid this comfort. I
Speaker 2: try to avoid this. You're going and frankly not healthy.
Speaker 2: I'm not healthy as a result. I haven't gotten anywhere.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm I'm not the dream, I'm not
Speaker 2: the standard.
Speaker 1: We'll see who goes first. Is are you doing anything
Speaker 1: in death that's unusual? You like cars? I don't.
Speaker 2: That's not in death. But are you like freezing yourself?
Speaker 2: Are you confer yourself? Are you now?
Speaker 3: I figure there's enough AI and enough of me talking
Speaker 3: to a microphone where I can just keep the podcast
Speaker 3: going for another time.
Speaker 1: You don't have to show up anymore.
Speaker 2: And you have kids, right, so they'll they'll profit off
Speaker 2: of that for years and years of them what their peak?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, they do.
Speaker 2: They follow you in this practice of trying the now.
Speaker 2: They're just children of comfort. You've spoiled them, and children
Speaker 2: of comfort. Boy, that should be our next TV show,
Speaker 2: Children of Lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You got to run, you got hard out, you got
Speaker 1: to do your thing to millions, say you guys got there.
Speaker 1: So the cold lunch for people who don't know, listen,
Speaker 1: let me just ask you something. Did he convince you
Speaker 1: would you do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you why I don't do it, because
Speaker 1: you do know that I do research, right, I like
Speaker 1: cold has gone back to the Greeks and the Romans. Okay,
Speaker 1: they use cold, But here's I just looked up some
Speaker 1: health issues as far as unintended. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I know when I'm prepping this stuff. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: hear your voice in my head, so let me read
Speaker 1: you this. And where you're going to interrupt is exactly
Speaker 1: where I heard your voice in my head. Okay. Evidence
Speaker 1: supporting the health benefits of cold therapy remains scanned. Experts
Speaker 1: partion that for some people, shocking the body of cold
Speaker 1: water could do more harm than good, even less than
Speaker 1: frigid temperatures. The National Center for Cold Water Safety.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, yeah, I visited it it really the last
Speaker 2: time I was in Where is it?
Speaker 1: Where where is that center? I think it's in cold Water.
Speaker 1: I was at cold Water city. I heard you. I
Speaker 1: just said, the National Center for Cold Water Safety. Yeah, honey,
Speaker 1: I got the job. I'm the director of the Cold.
Speaker 2: Water I'm in the Piscataway office.
Speaker 1: Well, the National Center for Cold Water Safety. Yeah. Warrens
Speaker 1: that sudden immersion in water under sixty degrees fahrenheit can
Speaker 1: kill a firston in less than a minute.
Speaker 2: How much money did we spend to support this organization
Speaker 2: to come up with that finding.
Speaker 1: Doctor pur Hey Plutsky Oh said that cold shock can
Speaker 1: be dangerous. He's the director of preventive cardiology. To bring
Speaker 1: him in this hospital in Boston. Whether their health benefits
Speaker 1: or not is not clear and has not been established.
Speaker 1: Here's what happens when you're point in cold water. As
Speaker 1: you said in the beginning of the episode, mind is
Speaker 1: the extreme shrinking. Yeah. It triggers a sudden wrapid increase
Speaker 1: in breathing, which you say, heart rate and blood pressure
Speaker 1: known as the cold shock responsies. That can cause a
Speaker 1: person to drown within seconds. Yes, if the involuntary gasp
Speaker 1: while their head is submerged. The shock also places stress
Speaker 1: on the heart and makes it work harder. So the
Speaker 1: reason that I don't do the cold orange yeah, is
Speaker 1: pretty much that we have.
Speaker 2: We have talked about this before. My mother wouldn't let
Speaker 2: me get on a skateboard. Did you hear if I said, ma,
Speaker 2: I got this daily regime now loving it. I go
Speaker 2: in freezing cold water and I stay there for as
Speaker 2: long as I can till it burns my skin, and
Speaker 2: then I come out and I feel great.
Speaker 1: Now. What it does say, I'm sure, is that there
Speaker 1: is a rush candle. Here's what mean it can do
Speaker 1: is reduce information and athletes use it to helpriaths and
Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff. But doctor Plushy says, you
Speaker 1: don't know if you've got to where do you have
Speaker 1: a pre existing condition? And you go, I'm trying the
Speaker 1: ice plunge. It's your last I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2: You know, you and I both know people that are
Speaker 2: dealing with mental health issues of anxiety and depression, and
Speaker 2: this has become a very popular suggested therapy.
Speaker 1: And I know one person to try. They got so
Speaker 1: depressed because they couldn't take it. Oh, there you go,
Speaker 1: it's set you up. There.
Speaker 2: They got in for ten fifteen seconds, they couldn't take it,
Speaker 2: and they got out and they felt It's another thing
Speaker 2: I didn't measure up to. But you know, there are
Speaker 2: ways that people are dealing with this because of anxiety.
Speaker 2: And I have never had depression, but I have not
Speaker 2: clinical depression. I had severe anxiety, as you know. Yes,
Speaker 2: And the reason why I think people do this stuff
Speaker 2: is the shock value. And you don't have to go
Speaker 2: in cold water, because you know the story. I was
Speaker 2: having anxiety attacks during my Broadway run of Neil Simon's
Speaker 2: Broadway Bound. I was getting There was a period in
Speaker 2: the show where I just had to lay down on
Speaker 2: a bed and be still for about ten minutes, and
Speaker 2: I was getting anxiety attacks during those ten minutes, and
Speaker 2: to the point where my heart was beating. I had
Speaker 2: the cold sweats. I thought I was going to die.
Speaker 2: I wanted to run off the stage. And they would
Speaker 2: get worse and worse and worse every night. I was
Speaker 2: embarrassed by it. I thought my career would be over,
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't be able to be an actor.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody, you know.
Speaker 2: I finally, after about six weeks of this, confided in
Speaker 2: my acting teacher because he was not only my teacher,
Speaker 2: but he's a friend of mine. And I said, Larry,
Speaker 2: I just got to tell you. I'm having this crippling
Speaker 2: anxiety on stage. I think I'm going to pass out.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to lose my mind. I'm worried
Speaker 2: I'm going to ruin the show. I'm going to ruin
Speaker 2: it for the audience. I'm going to ruin my career.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give a back thing. I'm going
Speaker 2: to do this. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2: And I'm waiting for this very sympathetic response and he
Speaker 2: turns around and he says to me, you know, you're
Speaker 2: a goddamn egomaniac. I went what he said, It's all
Speaker 2: about you. You've made it all about you. This is
Speaker 2: going to happen to you. This is going to happen
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: You're going to do this. You're going to be that.
Speaker 2: He said, Jason, Nobody gives a crap about you. People
Speaker 2: are there to hear the story. Tell them the goddamn story.
Speaker 1: And it was.
Speaker 2: It was the most hold what I perceived as it
Speaker 2: was a cold lunge response. You're expecting compassion or sympathy
Speaker 2: and you'll get that. And I was really rattled by it.
Speaker 2: And I went to do the show that night and
Speaker 2: it fidn't. I didn't get the anxiety attack that I
Speaker 2: didn't get it the next night, didn't get it the
Speaker 2: next night, and I've never never had it again. And
Speaker 2: that was a sort of a one time shock to
Speaker 2: my system where he did spin my head around. He said, look,
Speaker 2: you're you're so in your head that you're making yourself
Speaker 2: crazy and it and it's true, and perhaps that's the
Speaker 2: value of.
Speaker 1: A shock to your city.
Speaker 2: But I don't get up every morning and go, hey, Larry,
Speaker 2: tell me I'm a goddamn it.
Speaker 1: I tell you that every day. That's harbardar I nothing,
Speaker 1: that's your job. My take on this, the real series
Speaker 1: takem is it society today because we got so much
Speaker 1: stuff coming in so fast once quick fixed, and quick
Speaker 1: fix amounts to cutting corners, and that that patience and
Speaker 1: is no longer rewarded. And we we were not looking
Speaker 1: for the most effective solution. We're looking for the quickest
Speaker 1: fix in time. So I think all of these things
Speaker 1: listen if if it that said, look, folks, people are
Speaker 1: out there trying all kinds of things is and if
Speaker 1: it's working for you, then it's working for you. Just
Speaker 1: remember the words center for a cold water or whatever
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, but they do in the Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1: Dopamine fasting is one of the newest buzz starving your
Speaker 1: body of food, sex, alcohol, social media, technology, anything else
Speaker 1: that might give you even a flicker to fund SOT
Speaker 1: and then that's that's I live that. If that's a
Speaker 1: thing I'm doing that. Organized intimacy is the thing where
Speaker 1: you organize it. In other words, is that the same
Speaker 1: as scheduling? Yes, eye contact, parties, come parties, conscious imagined
Speaker 1: drinking turpentime I told you four. Tiffany Hattersh revealed her
Speaker 1: cure for the common cold drinking Turpentine can split a
Speaker 1: term of time. It's not she says, it's not going
Speaker 1: to kill you. No, I know.
Speaker 2: Somebody used to say a teaspoon of vixed vapor up swallowing,
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Thought, oh, my Polyphasic sleeping is when you sleep in
Speaker 1: less than three hour blocks, which is my life, which
Speaker 1: is why I went. But let's hear for Google Heim
Speaker 1: real quick, David, Googlehime, Yes, google him. So what happened
Speaker 1: during this episode?
Speaker 3: To you?
Speaker 1: By the way, thank you, Jason. It is very good
Speaker 1: to be seen.
Speaker 5: Wanted to get into the Tiffany Hattish comments she had
Speaker 5: made to GQ in an interview with them. The comedian
Speaker 5: and actress had sang the praises of turpentine to help
Speaker 5: with certain ailments.
Speaker 1: This actually has some historical roots.
Speaker 5: It was used by slaves in the pre Civil War
Speaker 5: era to treat certain ailments. It was also used in
Speaker 5: the Civil War era, given to patients for both internal
Speaker 5: and external wounds. But the use of this particular treatment
Speaker 5: goes back much much further. The Romans, according to Atlas Obscura,
Speaker 5: used it to treat depression, reeling it back to modern medicine.
Speaker 5: Doctor Toby Litovitz, the executive director of the National Capital
Speaker 5: Oison Center, says that turpentine is a poison and it
Speaker 5: contains a variety of compounds that can cause serious injury,
Speaker 5: even symptoms as bad as seizures and coma, So that
Speaker 5: one we might want to put on the show. So
Speaker 5: that also got me to think, well, where did the
Speaker 5: term snake oil come from? Are you guys familiar with that?
Speaker 1: I might know the term, but yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you could buy everybody also ringing out a snake. You
Speaker 1: grab a snake and ring.
Speaker 5: Them out, Well, you know, Peter. Actually it's not too
Speaker 5: far off of it. Snake oil was actually part of
Speaker 5: traditional Chinese medicine where they would take the Chinese water
Speaker 5: snake and you know, do whatever you do to get
Speaker 5: the oil out of that snake and use it.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm watching, I don't want to know.
Speaker 5: The interesting thing about that is the oil that you
Speaker 5: could get from the Chinese water snake is rich in
Speaker 5: omega three, fatty acids.
Speaker 1: So inadvertently they were doing something that was better. So
Speaker 1: you could either eat a salmon or squeezes snake or
Speaker 1: squeeze this name WW or squeeze the name. Now.
Speaker 5: The interesting thing is that the snake oil came to
Speaker 5: the United States in the mid eighteen hundreds as thousands
Speaker 5: of Chinese migrants came to the United States for the
Speaker 5: Transcontinental Railroad. And in this migration they would often share
Speaker 5: it with other workers, you know, non Chinese workers, and
Speaker 5: people found that there was tremendous benefits as far as
Speaker 5: joints and rheumatoid arthritis and these sorts of things that
Speaker 5: actually had medicinal value.
Speaker 1: Well, this idea was taken up by Clark.
Speaker 5: Stanley, who gained notoriety in the late Adrias hundreds. He
Speaker 5: heard about the rumors of the snake oil there on
Speaker 5: the on the railroad, so he wanted to cash in
Speaker 5: on the practice. But there were no Chinese water snakes,
Speaker 5: so he picked up rattlesnakes and supposedly made oil out
Speaker 5: of them. Now he later became known as the Rattlesnake King.
Speaker 5: To make a long story short, rattlesnakes don't have the
Speaker 5: omega threes. But it doesn't really matter because the tonic
Speaker 5: he was selling didn't really contain any snake oil at all.
Speaker 1: It was make all salesman. There you go, got it,
Speaker 1: There you go? You know what? I just got an
Speaker 1: image of like a warehouse with a million women sitting
Speaker 1: there with buckets of snakes. How are you doing later, cameras,
Speaker 1: here's just rattling a little bit wash wash about you like?
Speaker 1: But you like? So, by the way, before we go,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you diets of because this blew me away.
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs, the late founder of Apple, was known for
Speaker 1: eating habits. You know, he i to pancreate a cancer,
Speaker 1: but his his eating habits. He would eat only one
Speaker 1: or two foods at a time for a week, like
Speaker 1: for weeks that's the pendulette carrots and apple. Yeah, pended
Speaker 1: potatoes or something.
Speaker 2: Well, he would do if I understand correctly, Penn. When
Speaker 2: he started his he lost over one hundred pounds. He
Speaker 2: would eat one the food and only one food for
Speaker 2: a week. I know potatoes was one of them.
Speaker 1: That can't be healthy. Broccoli, I think we can't be healthy.
Speaker 1: And by the way, God Jobs came to regret that
Speaker 1: he needn't go traditional medicine. But he also is like
Speaker 1: at him. He didn't shower regularly and didn't wear the
Speaker 1: odin because he thought veganism would alleviate the smell. Zuckerberg.
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg said he eats whatever he feels he would
Speaker 1: eat that day because he doesn't like to waste time
Speaker 1: on small decisions. This is what big guys. I'll eat it.
Speaker 1: It's there, I'm eating it now. Well in that way,
Speaker 1: I'm very Zuckerberg. Okay, except that then he changed. Remember
Speaker 1: what he did. He changed his personal challenge in twenty
Speaker 1: eleven to only eat meat from animals. He killed himself
Speaker 1: so people would come over and you'd have goat. You'd
Speaker 1: have goat, and Jack dorsey E from Twitter said it
Speaker 1: was cold goat so I passed Dorsey ate two hard
Speaker 1: bowled eggs with soy sauce every day. That's his thing.
Speaker 1: Used to be a vegan, too much, too much beata charity,
Speaker 1: and he turned orange. So he's that happened in my life.
Speaker 1: She turned on.
Speaker 2: She she was you know, Dana eats very healthily, but
Speaker 2: she she for a while there she was eating a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot of sweep oftatoes and carrots. And not only
Speaker 2: did she turn orange, but if you took a tissue
Speaker 2: and sort of wiped her skin, if she was a
Speaker 2: little damp, you get orange on this sky. I mean
Speaker 2: Lich was coming out of it. He was coming out
Speaker 2: of her forest. Elon Musk doesn't usually breakfast. When he does,
Speaker 2: he'll lead a Mars chocolate bar because you know, I
Speaker 2: guess you're going to take that into space, he said,
Speaker 2: I inhale it in five minutes. He focus on dinner,
Speaker 2: which takes place while he's working. He never stops, never
Speaker 2: stops to eat. Doesn't that now you understand? Elon Musk back.
Speaker 2: You know these guys take every I want to put
Speaker 2: some fruit loops in my oatmeal? Does that count as anything?
Speaker 2: They write the story of me. Bill Gates eats Coca
Speaker 2: puff zero for rex puffs. You know what Jerry Seinfeld
Speaker 2: got me into. I never did it before I met him,
Speaker 2: cereal combining. I had never done it. He made an
Speaker 2: art out of it. We had, you know, we talked
Speaker 2: about our crazy catering.
Speaker 1: There'd be twenty different zero combining.
Speaker 2: Yeah, A little bit you put, you know, maybe a
Speaker 2: third of a cup of cocoa puffs and some fruit
Speaker 2: their special k for the health and the grape nuts,
Speaker 2: you know, and you mix them all up a malone.
Speaker 1: Well you have to, because you can't eat grape nuts
Speaker 1: is like eating grab. I love grape nuts. I like
Speaker 1: it mixed with them, zeal grape nuts.
Speaker 2: If you're listening, sponsor, I will eat it on the air,
Speaker 2: I'll eat it all through thing. I actually love grape nuts.
Speaker 2: Tastes like a wild hickory not Who was that?
Speaker 1: Remember that Guyel Gibbs Gibbons, that's you know, that's taking
Speaker 1: a space in my mind for importance? Why I remember I.
Speaker 2: Do so much Jerry Seinfeld reference on this. I can't
Speaker 2: remember my commercial name, but I remember your stars and commercials.
Speaker 2: We just accept I'm mul Gibbons and I say it,
Speaker 2: and you go I never heard of you'll give my authority.
Speaker 2: My favorite that Jerry said was CERTs now with more
Speaker 2: Redsen and he goes, we didn't know what Redsin was before.
Speaker 1: Now we're going more Redsen.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Really well, thank you Adam Carolla, thank you for.
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Speaker 1: Maybe No, I thought you were going to get all
Speaker 1: the way through it without a FUNC. Yeah, that wasn't
Speaker 1: the fun. That was a turn really no really, Home
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