WEBVTT - Why is the Dating Scene Trash? 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:09.080 Well, hello, Andrew. Oh, hi, Gandhi the fake happiness. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:09.880 I love it. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.720 Are you happy because today the episode is on your birthday? 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.720 Yes, are my birthday? 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:17.880 What are you so excited about for your birthday? 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:18.040 Oh? 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.240 By the way, it's off on the side. Hello, and 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.240 this is Andrew. I mean Andrew for Diamond for a second, 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:24.120 and it's his birthday. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:25.760 Yeah, so it's a big special day. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.040 A big special day. Okay, what are you doing for 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:27.520 your birthday? 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.840 Going out for dinner? Are you going Gray Wind? It's 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.320 the Dan Cougar restaurant, Yes, for the delicious Indian food. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.120 But that was just for a one off thing right 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.760 also not important to the conversation right now. And then 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.920 I'm doing this thing on the edge where you put 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.120 your back and you like lean back. Michelle, my friend, 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:50.839 she got us tickets for. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.000 It, so that'll be so fun. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.400 I'm excited, fingers crossed. I'll be here on May first, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.880 and I didn't fall off the edge. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:57.760 You will be there. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.280 You're gonna make it. It's gonna be okay. Having a 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.560 birthday party before your birthday party? Uh not really, this 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.080 is more of just like a dinner and an event. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.480 Well, the event only happened because someone else bought tickets 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:10.800 to it. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.520 No, this is great because then I don't have to 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.920 go to your birthday party if you're having two. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.560 No, it's not a birthday party. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:16.959 It sounds like a birthday party. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:17.920 It's not a birthday party. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.480 Going to dinner and then I'm going out to have 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:20.320 a little party. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.679 No, there is no party. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:22.600 Come to your other party. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:23.440 There is no party. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.279 So you're one of these people like Diamond who insists 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.640 on being celebrated for a month. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.280 No, this was the only available day and it was 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.280 on my birthday, and so I said, okay, we'll all 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.640 do dinner afterwards. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.600 How the story changes. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.720 The story didn't change. We're Gallop Gish Gallop. That is 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.640 your name. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.560 Look it up. That's your argument strategy, Gish Gallop. That 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:43.560 you're a Gish galluper. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.440 You throw a bunch of things and you change topics 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.400 all the time, so this way no one can keep 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.040 up with anything. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.520 No, you're having okay, we'll say on the one topic, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.880 you're having a birthday party on your birthday, and then 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.560 you're having a birthday. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.640 On the weekend that's May third. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.280 There's no gift galloping it is or gifting or galloping. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.560 You're the one said, so you're throwing a birthday party. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.480 Oh so I don't have to go to your birthday party. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.040 Then okay, so that's the same topic. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:06.480 It's not. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.440 It's the same thing. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.720 You're having your birthday party, your second birthday party. It's 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:11.840 party been celebrated one. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.760 But there is no birthday party. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.880 Sounds like a birthday party to me. It's geez, leave 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.600 us here in for your feedback. Is Andrew having a 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.520 birthday party and then another birthday party. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.240 A birthday with friends? 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:21.959 That's a party. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.040 That is not a party. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:24.200 How many people are going to be there? 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:24.640 Six? 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.640 That's a party. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.000 It's not a party. Six it's not a party. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.680 That is when you get extra gratuity included on your 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.360 bill because it's a party. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.800 Eight, it's six, it's eight, it's six. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.920 You know what, I'm not doing this gish. You're switching 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.440 out and now we're going to argue about, oh, is 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.640 it six or is it for extra gratuity? 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.200 No? At six, that's a party. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.560 It's not a party. It is, it's not. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.840 I think it is. Also, will there be cake? No 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.919 guarantee there will be cake because it's a party. So 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.440 let me let me catch a cake, Andrew, and it's 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:56.760 a party. I'm not going to your other party. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:58.040 I can't. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.000 I can't. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.320 It's because you can buy a costume. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.120 Yet I already have my costume. It arrived yesterday. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:04.400 And what are you plague grat? 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.240 I'm not telling you. I thought about it, but they 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.800 didn't have any good playgrat costume. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:08.760 Yeah, I could see that. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.400 I also wanted to be a lepper. Not great costumes there, damn. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.560 But there was a lot happening in medieval times, a lot. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.400 I'm excited. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.799 What's your costume? Oh, by the way, his birthday party 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.359 is at medieval Times. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.639 It's going to be a party. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:23.760 Oh your second party. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.520 No, it's going to be my only party. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:30.280 Sure, Okay, what is your first costume for your second party? 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:31.800 It has ears? 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.000 It's kind of like Zelda ish humans have ears, Yeah, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.000 but like the little like a gilded fairy. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.280 Okay, well, now I hate the costume. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:43.840 I actually that was one of the things I was 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.880 looking up because apparently fairies were like really big at 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:46.240 the time. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.080 But like, here's my thought process. Did they just not 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.880 like was this a style trend at the time? And 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.400 they were like, oh, fairies are so in right now, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.839 Like I would love to know style trends of that time, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.560 Like how how is it communicy? Like, oh, do you 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.400 see that painting? He went vironic You've got to go 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:04.960 see it. Like fairies are so in. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.160 I mean, if if you were to go one hundred 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.960 years into the future or even one hundred years into 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.320 the past with what everybody is wearing now, yeah, it 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.160 certainly looks like cosplay of some sort. I walked down 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.240 the street and I'm like, the fuck is that? 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:16.839 But queans were in a thing. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.440 Like ever, jeans still aren't a thing in like most. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:20.760 Of the world. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.480 I love jeans, yeah, they say. Apparently in Europe that's 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.320 the number one way they spot an American is our 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:26.840 trashy asses are wearing jeans. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:28.279 They're so cozy though. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.240 They are pretty fucking great. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:29.880 Yeah. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.559 Do you have any hopes for your birthday party? 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.000 I hope everyone has a really fun time, and I 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.719 hope that we can settle on a place for the 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:36.360 after party. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.320 Oh, we still haven't done that yet. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.520 No, I think I'm gonna do it at the Country 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.640 Bar in Jersey City, just because I think going from 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.360 those two things is truly. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.479 We're all gonna be in costume. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:46.160 I love it. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:47.920 Where's the country bar in Jersey City? 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:48.760 Boots and bones? 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.080 Oh that's a country bar? 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.560 Yeah? What do you think the boots and the bones? 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.200 Well, bones could be part of anything as kid boots, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.119 like work boots, construction boots. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.400 You've been in this bar. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.800 I know time. I'm very surprised that it's a country bar. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:02.440 Ma'am. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.039 I swear to god they were playing DM. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.920 Country eight M. What is that the Caine Brown song? 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:11.839 No? 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:13.440 Either way, we can definitely get in. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.600 Yeah, depending on everybody's costumes. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.839 I want everybody to show up in their full medieval 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.200 get ups to go to the country bar. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.640 Are you in the phase of this party where people 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:23.960 are starting to disappoint you? 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:25.400 Uh? 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.680 Not really, because I said it's medieval in your heart. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.720 So if you want to come in costume, coming costume, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.760 I'm not going to put so much weight into it 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.920 where I have to hear like so stupid. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:35.680 I don't care. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.200 Josh tapped out of the costume party. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.280 Exactly, I don't care. You do you? 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.840 You don't want to be on theme? That's like go 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:43.839 stand out, babes. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:44.760 You do it. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.760 You're doing the thing, You're sticking it to society by 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:48.800 not chresing up. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.480 For your second birthday party because you specifically said that's 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:52.000 what she wanted. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.200 Medieval in your heart if you really want to be 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.839 that person and not stand out. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.320 Oh so you do stand out? 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.000 Actually, could you be the only one in the group 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.680 photo with that one next to Josh also not wearing 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:04.240 a costume? 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.080 Go for it. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.320 Designon to have a costume. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.480 Yeah, she's buying one and her friend Nan is coming, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:10.120 so it should be fun. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.000 Okay, Okay, we'll see how this all goes. I've never 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.160 been to Medieval Times. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.520 I've been once as a kid, and I was telling 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.039 Josh it was a real good day for me in 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.360 seventh grade when we went because someone on the bus 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.360 left their game boy like little backpack or whatever full 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.560 of games, and I went and I said, excuse me, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.800 somebody left their games and yeah, and the bus driver 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.040 was just like, I don't know what you want me 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:34.520 to do with this. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.159 So you're like cool, So I got games exactly games. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.000 Yep, Kirby, I learned her this day. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.120 Okay, so today's episode, because we haven't done the burn 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.640 book in a while and I have a burn at 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.080 the end of this that you certainly need to be 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.479 a part of or maybe you're the burned. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.520 Okay, we have to. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.040 Get to Natasha Urma. She's my guest today. She used 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.200 to be a news anchor in Boston, and then she 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.800 moved to the lovely New York City. Actually she moved 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.640 somewhere else, been for New York City, then she came 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.280 to New York City. Now she's on Fox Live. She's 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.440 doing great things. We've bonded on a lot. I think 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.240 she has some cool stuff to say. So let's get 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:15.680 to Natasha. I am here with Natasha Verma, my buddy, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:16.119 my friend. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.600 How are you, Natasha, Hey girl, I'm doing great. How 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:18.920 are you? 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.720 I'm doing really well. So Natasha. If you don't know, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.480 she is one of the anchors for Fox five New 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:25.800 York in the evening. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:26.400 That's right. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.160 But I have kind of known her since before we 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.120 both even moved to New York. Yes, have friends in common. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.480 She used to be an anchor in Boston. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.960 We have so many parallels. Yeah, Boston, Florida, New York, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.640 crazy coworkers, crazy hair stories. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.880 Yes, she get into all of it. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:45.400 All into it. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:46.840 You have really good mic technique. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.640 By the way, we have to record like this in 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.280 the studio. Actually, when we track our headlines before the. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.720 Shows, how did you get here to New York City? 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.840 Wow, that is a crazy story. I have been working 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.120 over ten years to get back to New York. Was 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.040 born in New York City and raised in South Texas. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.600 I went to school at University Texas at Austin go Longhorns, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.080 double major in biology, pre med and journalism. And I 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:16.000 decided biology premise of course, like yeah, okay, sorry, continue, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.840 it had to be like that. And I decided that I, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.400 you know, I don't like blood or needles, and maybe 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.880 being a doctor's not for me. And I just fell 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.480 in love with journalism on campus and UT has a 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.840 great journalism school, so I created a morning show, Good 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.840 Morning Texas, which still runs on the campus. Fell in 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.800 love with journalism, interned at Fox Austin and decided I 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.679 wanted to go that track. So that track meant I 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.480 went to Columbia University for my master's in journalism. That 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.360 got me to New York and I start as a 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.400 reporter for News twelve in the Bronx one man band, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.440 driving myself through snowstorms, uh you know, sometimes even going 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.600 out to see where shots are fired. Before the police 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.520 show up, and by yourself, by myself. And I was 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.400 I was nineteen years old, so you know, I was fearless. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.920 I'm like, yeah, sure, I'm gonna let me go swing 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.320 by and spray that. I get a job in Florida 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.920 for two years with NBC. Then I get a job 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.800 in Boston for three years with NBC. Then I get 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.679 a job with NBC and Denver, and then finally I 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.600 get the call from New York Fox five New York 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.560 looking for main evening anchor to be on the five, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.040 six and ten pm news, and I mean, I couldn't 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.160 have it. Just is kiss met in so many ways. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.160 It was a dream come true. It's my dream job, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 and I'm back in New York. And that was always 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.440 the goal was to get back here someway. So that's 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.960 the long winded answer to how did I get back 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.079 to New York. It was just the dream job. And 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.720 you know, I think I think the big thing with 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.760 with Fox New York, Fox five New York is that 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:59.439 they wanted someone who showed grit, someone who'd been through hardship, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.840 who because that's what New York really is, a mandship, hardship. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.000 I wake up and living in New York is a hardship. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.000 It is not an easy place to live and exists. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.920 I wish everybody knew that about living in New York. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.800 And I love New York and it was just a 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:15.960 dream come true to come back here. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.240 What are some of the things that have happened with 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:19.880 you working in the news for as long as you 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.280 have at this point where the shit has hit the 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:23.679 fan and you've had to roll with it. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.960 Yeah, I mean, I think just the news cycle in general. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.520 I mean we had like a rough last week. I 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.960 mean you look at New York City politics this month. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.040 I mean it has been NonStop since January twentieth, right, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.760 and so and even before that, you know, since November fifth, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.400 it's been a grind and I think you just have 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.600 to keep up with the news cycle. And I love it. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.880 You know, I'm a journalist at heart, and it's I love. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.000 I'm curious, I'm a learner, and so for me it's 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:55.400 part of the job. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:56.800 Do you write your own news? 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.360 I do. I mean, so we have a great staff 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.120 of writers and producers, and I always look at my 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.560 copy before I go on. I write my questions. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.520 I don't have any rom Burgundy moments. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:13.520 Of course, I am Natasha Verma maybe who knows san Diego, Yes, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.199 but yeah, I definitely look at all my copy and 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.520 you know, I write my own news and I am 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.440 very much like hands on and everything that I do 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:24.320 with the shows. 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.040 So this is my question. Sadu has a master's in journalism. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:33.120 What do you think of the current environment where everybody 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.880 on x or we like to call it Twitter because 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.240 we did name it just because Elon Muskoff, because I'm 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.880 sure he listens to this podcast, whether it's Instagram, it's 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.560 any social media platform. It has drastically changed the scope 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.959 of journalism in general because you get breaking news faster, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.440 and you get a lot of nonsensical news that's not 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.800 even accurate. How do you guys feel about that? And 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.560 how do you integrate that into what you're doing. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.680 It's becoming increasingly tough, even in the world of AI, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.560 of separating fact from fiction, and you have to go 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.560 do your own source seeking. A lot of times, you know, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.000 you go on X or Twitter, whatever you know, and 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.560 you look at some posts and You'll wonder, is that real? 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.800 I get shared things in my family group and I'm like, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.520 whoa wait, wait, guys, backs that up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.400 I see your mom and dad. Yeah, I'm like, guys, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.640 I gotta double check that. Let me see what's going on. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.600 But I think it's going to be increasingly up to 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.319 the people to look at where the news is coming from, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:38.439 and where these news organizations are getting their facts sources, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.560 and what they're seeing on social media. I mean, AI, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.080 the pictures, the videos have gotten so insane, so good. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.000 I mean I think I saw the other day a 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.280 cat making a stirfry, a shrimp sturfry, like cooking it, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.960 and I just I was mesmerized for I think it 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.960 grasped me for like five minutes where I just sat 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.280 there and I'm like, this is not real, but I 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.920 wanted to be real. But could it be real? It 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:04.280 was real. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.760 That's exactly what would look like exactly. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.640 The whole thing is just out of control now. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.200 It really is. Fact checking is important. I have you 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.560 seen the show on Netflix. It's a docuseries maybe just 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:19.720 one documentary about the social media's greatest con artist. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:21.040 I haven't seen that. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.080 So this is about a girl who claimed that she 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.079 had stage four brain cancer. On her journey, she found 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.040 that even though the cancer at stage four, had spread 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.000 to her liver, her spleen, all these different organs, and 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.080 obviously it originated in her brain. She found that if 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.000 she just ate certain foods and cooked a certain way, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.079 she was able to control that cancer and actually move 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.120 past it and beat it. From the point that she 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.560 started this journey on Instagram, she released a cookbook, so 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.480 it went through a legitimate publisher. She got an app 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.000 in the app store from Apple that ended up getting 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.719 put on everybody's Apple Watch. And it all turned out 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:58.240 to be fake. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.480 She usually have chemo or any nothing. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.439 She had no proof of anything, but it got through 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:08.320 so many different levels and layers of people who should 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.480 have been checking, who should have been fact checking. The 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.520 reason I got busted out was one journalist said I'm 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.280 interested in this, started talking to doctors and the doctor said, yeah, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.960 I in my time have never seen brain cancer spread 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.520 to a spleen, right, that's actually a very rare place 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.880 to even get cancer. And one of her friends who 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.800 said something about this seems weird. Now, this is one 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.040 friend who just asked a couple questions and immediately the 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.640 entire thing unraveled. But this woman was able to make 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.400 it past so many different barriers to then go speak 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.400 to the world and say, hey, don't worry about what 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.000 the doctors are telling you, because I have a diet 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.800 plan that's going to save your life. And I'm just astounded. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.800 We see this over and over and over. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.120 Again how they were able to get so far. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.120 It's wild to me that there's no real fact checking done. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.440 So it makes me happy if there are some news 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.360 anchors out there Natasha her mom Fox Time, Yes, that 0:14:58.440 --> 0:14:59.760 hopefully are doing the fact checking. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.080 Yeah, I mean that's our job, right, you know, I hope. Yeah. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.840 I watch some stuff that I'm like, who's doing the one? 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.720 No, you're right there. There are a lot of things 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.280 out there where it's questionable of who's doing fact checking 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.720 or what the agenda is. I think also with that 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:20.480 story of that con artist, it's when you grasp someone emotionally, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.920 you know, through cancer, a lot of people may not 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.800 even ask questions, and it's just that's the worst kind 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:26.560 of person. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.720 And potentially put other people in harm's way. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.240 Right because I mean medical intervention, I mean that's important, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.520 you know, in that kind of level. I mean, it's 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.160 not like you can pray cancer away. It doesn't work 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.080 like that. Exactly nice. It would be. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:54.440 Cheaper, It certainly would be would be We love modern medicine. 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.160 I am astounded at the turn that things have been 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:01.840 taking recently, you know. I I'm saddened by it. I'm 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.960 hoping that we don't get set back one hundred and 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.040 fifty years. It seems like we're kind of on that path. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.000 But to that point, you are a cancer survivor. How 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.080 did you find out that you had cancer? Because you 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.240 went through this pretty publicly. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.200 I went through it privately, and then I went through 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.360 it publicly because at a point I didn't know what 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.720 was going on with me, and that was scary and 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:26.000 I had no clue. I was diagnosed with stage two 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.400 hodgkinslim foma when I was twenty three. At the time, 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.040 I was working on a morning show, waking up similar 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.080 to you, but waking up at two am because we 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.080 were live at four am at NBC Boston. And I 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.960 remember waking up just on a well, let's just say 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.640 maybe Tuesday, and I get up and I have this 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.760 shooting pain down the left side of my arm, which 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.520 was new, and I'd gone to the gym the night 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.800 before for the first time in a while, so I 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.720 thought Okay, maybe I'm sore. But I started to feel 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.600 where that pain originated at my collarbone, and I felt 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.040 this lump that was right over my bone. And I 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.000 call my dad later that morning, who's a doctor, and 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.560 I tell him what's going on. And you know, both 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.080 of both of his parents passed away from cancer, so 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.400 when he hears lump, it's a concern. You know, he's like, Okay, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.919 we'll keep monitoring it. You know, go see a doctor. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.840 I go and see one doctor and she gives me 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.880 pain meds, like just candy pain meds. Take it, you'll 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.120 be fine. I'm taking it, and obviously the pain goes away, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:30.440 but the lump is still there. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.160 Did she investigate them? 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.760 She investigated it and she was like, oh, it's moving. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.359 That's a good sign. So it must just be a 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.960 it must just be as cyst. So yeah, then I 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.320 start to get these symptoms of like I couldn't take 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.000 a deep breath without pushback, which is a really weird 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.800 like you can fill your lungs with air. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.600 Fine, everyone's doing it right now, doing it right now, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.240 you just breath. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.720 I'm going to do a deep breath session now, guys. Yeah, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.080 but I felt like some pushback on my chest. Well, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.080 turns out there was a tumor pushing onto my windpipe. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.120 That's the whole that's what was going on there, and 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.159 I had no clue. So that point, my intuition is like, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.320 something's wrong. Something's wrong. Go to the doctor again. So 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.879 I went to a different doctor, and that doctor walks 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.560 into the room and he's like, I never forget what 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.240 he Never forget what he said because I always quoted. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.040 It's just it's one of the craziest thing I ever heard. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.480 It was like, sweety, you're gonna get bumps and bruises 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.000 all over your body. You don't need to come in 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.160 for every single one of them. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:29.840 Wow. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.880 I just remember feeling so dismissed, and we were right. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.600 I was dismissed, and uh, I just I looked him 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.000 in the eye and I said, let me just level 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.360 with you. I think it's cancer. And he's like, well, 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.919 you're twenty three, you've never been in the hospital before. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.960 You don't have any other symptoms other than this lump 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.320 and like a little bit of pushback. Go to Austin 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.960 when you see your dad and get an ultrasound your 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.720 paranoid Yeah, lakes, sweetie, you're paranoid, like, calm down. It 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.800 happened to be the day of the solar eclipse. So 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.520 the beds were empty in this emergency room. And so 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.359 he's like, Okay, lucky, I do have like I do 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.480 have some availability for you to do an ultrasound. And 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.320 I'm like, just just do his no skin off your back, 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.280 just do it right. And so we do an ultrasound 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.040 and I'll never forget. Like this tech is doing the ultrasound. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.520 She brings in a second tech to take a look 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.720 at it, and it's almost like I told you so, 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.560 feeling I knew it, I'm feeling validated. And I go 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.640 back to the examination room sitting there on the bed. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.080 The doctor's like coming in. He's like, look, we're we're 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.560 just double checking some stuff, but we need to do 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.199 a CT scan. Prior to this, my dad I had 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:40.960 gotten my dad on the phone and be like, you know, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.080 talk to this doctor to get me an ultrasound. My 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.399 Dad's like, sir, I would get a CT scan and 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.920 he's like, well, this is America. In America, we don't 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.080 just jump to CT scan. My dad's been a doctor 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.200 for almost forty years and I'm not an accent, like 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.880 he has a slight accent, but not really. It doesn't 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.680 First of all, it doesn't matter. But I can't even 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:01.840 hear it anymore. You know. 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.880 It's like I didn't know my parents had accents until 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.040 I was like fifteen years old. Yeah, I never heard it. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.560 Yeah, it was just beag. Yeah. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.760 First it was SWEETI or fine, you're gonna get bumps 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.480 and bruises, and it was like, in America, that's not 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.720 how we do him. I've been a practicing doctor in 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:15.880 America for quite some time. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.840 I asked my dad after the fact, like, do you 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.920 fault this doctor? And he's like, I don't you know. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.439 You know, in a way, he's observing what he can, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.679 but he should have done an ultrasound when he had 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.560 a you know, a more experienced doctor chatting with him. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.720 He shouldn't have had an ego about it. And seat scan, 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.280 we do it. It comes back and the demeanor of 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.840 this doctor had completely changed. Color drained from his face 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.240 and he sits there pale, and he's just like, so, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:47.919 given your age, we think that it could be Hodgkinson foma. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.159 My dad's on the phone listening to this. My Dad's like, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.320 it's cancer. You can say it's cancer because that's what 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.000 it is. I'm thinking like, oh, the kind of cancer 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.200 really take a pill goes way like no, no, no, 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.840 this is cancer. So I had a tumor on my collarbone, 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.800 but I also had a tumor on the other side. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.560 I had a mass in my chest and that's what 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.560 was kind of creating that pushback in my chest, and 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.399 it was spreading fast, it was growing fast, and it 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.760 was stage two and it was three. It started off 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.240 with three rounds of chemo, three rounds of radiation, but 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.120 with the mass in my chest and given the fact 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.080 that I was twenty three, you know, they had reservations 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.960 with you know, zapping my chest for breast cancer concerns 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.720 down the road. So we decided to do six rounds 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.320 of chemo. So up to the chemo, so we couldn't 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.359 so we didn't have to do radiation, and then we 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.640 would kind of reevaluate and see how the chemo took. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.600 Chemo did really well. I lost all my hair, but 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.560 you know, chemo did its job, and it was you know, 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.760 it was a journey. It was a very very painful journey. 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:56.080 I mean chemo really really hurt, like my body physically. 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.000 I've heard that from so many people, knock on wood 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.119 that I have not experienced it and hopefully will not 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.440 have to in my life, but I hear that so 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.840 terrible thing, and the amount of people who go through 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.800 chemo and beat cancer is incredible and amazing. We love 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.119 to hear it. That's why we liked medicine, and we 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:13.239 love our researchers and doctors. Yes, very important, grants are 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.000 very important. But through all of this, you lose all 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.680 of your hair. Are you still on TV while this 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:20.240 is happening? 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.960 So I had this delusional thought that I was gonna 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.680 stay on TV. I'm like, that's fine, I'll do I'll 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.360 do the traffic anchoring in the morning and then I'll 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.879 go get my chemo. And no, I was. I was wiped. 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.920 It turns out I'm allergic to pain meds, so I 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.119 had a host of side effects, and before you know it, 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.280 I was on like twenty different pills because I was 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.960 treating side effects of side effects. So I had to 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.240 step away, and because I didn't know what was going 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.560 on with me, didn't feel comfortable with sharing it with 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.239 the world. With what I was going through, I mean, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.399 some people battle publicly and that's amazing. And then some 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.600 people battle privately and that's amazing too. It's just whatever's 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.120 comfortable for you. And I had to process that privately 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.440 because I was I was scared. I had no idea 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.680 what was going on with me. So I went through it, 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:07.280 and then I finally announced when I was coming back, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.480 I had like articles come out that said, you know, 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.200 Natasha got fired by NBC, or like where is she? 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.600 Gotta love the communications business, no communication. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.840 Like she's really uplifting when you're not feeling well. 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.640 I know. Just rumors were flying around of like where 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:25.920 is she? What happened? 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:27.200 Well, like Princess Kate. 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:35.800 Hardly. It was a crazy time and and when I 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.359 came out, I decided that I'm going to do something 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.400 good with this, So I'm going to announce the formation 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.680 of this new program that we do through my foundation, 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.720 the Verma Foundation. Where I lost all my hair and 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:50.800 that was really horrific, and there were no resources during 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:55.159 that time. I think my oncologist, who's incredible, you know, 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.320 she just said just like, hey, by the way, do 0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:58.680 you have a wig? You're going to lose your hair, 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.280 And I just remember thinking, oh, no, I don't, I 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.399 don't think that it's gonna happen to me, and I 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.880 go and look and they're calling themselves cranial prosthesis prosthetic, 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.800 and it was just like, it's a wig, babe, And 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.760 this is before you go back to being on TV, 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:14.440 before I go back to being on TV. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.480 So there was no time that you were on TV 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:17.280 without your hair. 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.800 I wore a wig. I wore a wig when I 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.600 when I decided to go back on TV, finally I 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.520 had like a buzz cut, and so I thought, Okay, 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.560 well I can't do that. I'm gonna wear I got 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.040 a nice lace front, let's Beyonce a wig. I'm like, 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.640 what is Beyonce where I want that? Turns out it's 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:40.600 very expensive. Oh yeah, like that. So I got help 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.879 from a stylist for that, and I got a nice 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.000 lace front wig. It looked so good and I did 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.760 that and I wore that, and then finally I had 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.879 like I felt good enough to go on air like 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.720 without my wig and it was short, like short hair. 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:55.280 I did it. 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.720 It was a big deal to take my wig off. 0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.760 That was a lot of time. I was so much 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.439 anxiety leading up to that. I couldn't sleep all night. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.560 I'm like, oh my gosh, I did not feel confident 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.320 or beautiful. I'm like, you know what I'm gonna do it. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.640 I'm gonna ditch the wig. I don't need the wig, 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.480 and I'm gonna be myself and I go on air 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.040 and like it was a powerful moment and my colleagues 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.920 supported me. And then I remember the general manager comes 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.320 up to me and he was like, hey, you know 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.560 that was great and all and like so powerful, but 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.240 next time you do a drastic physical appearance change like 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:33.560 let us know, oh my goodness, so that's television. And 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.520 I was like, wow, I don't think I'm gonna work 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.199 here anymore. This is crazy. 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:39.440 Is that what made you leave? 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.720 No, I mean just lack of opportunity, And like I 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.760 think in every job, it's like you hit a wall 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.120 and you hit and I think that also is similar 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.000 to what you were experiencing too in Boston, Like you 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.359 kind of hit a wall career wise, and it's like, Okay, 0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.239 I want to get to that next step, but there 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:02.680 was no opportunity available, and it just continues. It's a 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.200 theme of betting on yourself and leaving when the time 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.639 is right so that you can pursue something that's going to. 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.960 Grow grow you even leaving when you don't think the 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.840 time is right, but you just feel I gotta get 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.159 out of here, got to get out of here. We 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:15.640 say all the time, if you wait for the time 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.040 to be right, you might be waiting forever because it 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.520 never feels right to make this giant move. But back 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.359 to your hair loss and everything that happened with it. 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.720 Your story is very different than my story. But I 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.880 also thought because I wasn't feeling good one day, went 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.080 to the doctor. Doctor was immediately like, get your ass 0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.760 to the hospital, and this is crazy. I woke up 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.440 in the hospital, ended up leaving a couple days later, 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.119 and I actually sent the group a text. It was 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.680 that raccoon busting out of the dumpster and I was like, 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.160 I'm back, guys, I'll be back on Monday. That did 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.080 not happen a few weeks later after all of it, 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:52.879 and I actually thought, yeah, call me, I'll talk to 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.639 you guys, like this is going to be fine. It 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.680 was not fine. And trying to push yourself in those 0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.600 situations is not gonna help you. Yeah, gona make you 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.080 feel batter, it's going to prolong everything. And I was 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.359 very fortunate to have a good team here who said 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.080 stop trying to get out of that hospital bed and 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.480 come in, just relax and feel better, and it was 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.320 really important. I too, was not prepared for the hair loss. 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.240 I don't know how yours happened, but we've talked about 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.879 this so many times. Mine was just brushing through it 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.960 on the couch one day and out came a chunk 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.360 of hair that I didn't even know you could lose 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.040 that one time. I was unaware that that's how hair. 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.000 Loss shocking, that's trauma. When you see that much hair 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:30.639 come out. 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.160 I was like, I'm dying. Oh my god, I thought 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.520 I was sick. And then the craziest part about all 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.680 of it is that this hair loss, which is devastating 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.240 to your soul and your mental health, there's no physical 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.159 pain involved with it. And I just kept thinking, I 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.879 can't believe this doesn't physically hurt. This is one of 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.800 my favorite things, is just coming out left and right 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.880 and it doesn't hurt, but inside it hurts so much. 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.080 And then I take a step back to the point 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.040 of your doctors like, hey, we just need to get 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.320 better right now. We'll handle this other stuff later. So 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.880 I handled the physical, and then when it came time 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.600 to really addressing well, now your hair fell out, it 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:08.800 almost felt like that was harder. 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.439 It is that other stuff is harder, right. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:13.679 What does that say about us? 0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:14.920 You know? 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.240 A vain assholes? 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.320 Absolutely not, okay, I know it's not about vanity, It's 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.760 about dignity. And that's really what carried me through this. 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.879 I too when I launched the foundation and I started 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.440 making these baseball caps with hair attached, giving them for 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.200 free to cancer patients for free. And I thought, this 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.679 is so vain. If I come out like, people are 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.040 gonna think like you're you're worried about losing your hair, 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.600 not your life like cancer. But all these women reached 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.360 out to me, hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, who 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.200 were like, thank you for making something like this. This 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.880 will help me go through treatment, and there's nothing out 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.840 there like this. And it became apparent to me that 0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.120 that emotional pain cuts so much deeper than the physical, 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.239 because that's that's your will to fight. I mean, there 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.080 were days in between my chemo, so I had chemo 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.640 every ten days, and there were two days in between. 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.400 So was every two weeks, so there were two days 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.040 two to four days where I felt like painless, you know, 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.360 the chemo had cycled out, and I felt really good. 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.800 I felt like myself again. And then I go look 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.520 in the mirror and I could not believe what I saw. 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.280 My eyebrows were gone, my eyelashes gone, my hair was gone. 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.600 I was pale. My skin was like I still have 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:36.400 these scars, like my veins fried and scarred my skin, 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.719 and that my tongue was black. Because chemo kills all 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.160 fast growing cells, including tongue cells, including stomach cells, including 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.600 just everything that's like good. It kills because it's it's 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.840 in a fight mode of killing everything. It's like, you know, 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.080 you're nuking the inside of your body. And there was 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.600 this mind body disconnect when you look in the mirror 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.240 and you don't feel good. When you look good, you 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.640 feel good. And that's so true. That's what it is. 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.440 And so I think that that emotional pain cut so 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.440 deep and to your point of it just coming out, 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:16.160 the clumps of hair coming out painlessly, I mean, like clockwork. 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:16.640 It was. 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.960 Twenty four hours after my twenty four it was, yeah, 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.880 twenty four hours after my second treatment of chemo. I 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.280 just noticed that I was in the shower like shampooing 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.440 my hair, and it came out in clumps like I 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.560 was able to just pull it out. And then I 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.960 start going in a trauma mode, which is like, oh 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.400 my god, my god, what's happening to me? And it 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.760 was the first physical proof where I'm like cancer's killing me. 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.360 Like before that, I was going through the motions of 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.960 it numb. And that was the first time where it 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.280 was like, my identity is being ripped away from me, 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.160 Like what else is it going to take from me? 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.720 In my case, had I had hair extensions in so 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.360 like all the hair was dying and getting close into 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:01.800 my hair extensions. 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.680 So much worse to get the extension. I tell everybody 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.920 that don't do it. It's tempting, don't do it. 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.400 Yeah, And then I'm combing my hair and combing it out. 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.200 So then I had my mom always jokes. I had 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.800 like my ten trusty strands of hair that never fell. 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.040 The ten strands, those ten girls, they stood strong. And 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.720 and there were my little rat tail, you know, like 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.360 in the back of my hair and back of my head, 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.200 and I had my baseball cap on, which is kind 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.040 of how the idea of the cap wig was born. 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.840 As I always wore this Nike cap to go in 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.760 a treatment, and I would just put the cap on 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.680 and I feel good. I'd feel like kind of like, 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.200 you know, in control, and I didn't have to show 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.560 my hair. But I mean in that moment, you're like, 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:45.960 oh my god, I don't have a wig. 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:46.720 What do I do? 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.040 And so thankfully I didn't have a blonde wig I had. 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.960 I had my ride, my brown wig, but I didn't 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:54.680 I didn't like that wig too. It was made of 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:59.640 synthetic hair. Hot, yes, synthetic. It was hot, it was 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.080 chi It was not made for someone who's got a 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.120 sensitive scalp going through chemo, and that was kind of 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.760 the basis that looked that, you know, real hair. I 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:14.280 wanted real hair with the cap attached to give to patients. 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.160 And on the inside of the cap, we have this 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:20.440 very soft lining, so it's like comforting on the scalp too. 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.960 And so this product that we made is so made 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.680 out of like I was the I was the guinea 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.920 pig for the prototypes of it, and I was going 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.800 through chemo and I just remember thinking like I wish 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.480 I had that during chemo because it was it was great. 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.800 And I did wear the cap wig towards the end too, 0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.560 because it's great to transition from maybe you don't want 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.600 to rock your buzzed cut yet back into the world. 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.920 I still wear toppers whenever I feel like it. Yeah, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.560 my hair is finally starting. The curls are back. That 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.680 went away for a while and it was just all 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.960 it was disasterful. We're getting back to it. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.120 Yeah. Oh so when your hair started to grow back, 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.040 was was the texture different? 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:03.040 Yes, it was actually much curlier than it was previously. 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.800 And I think there are a few reasons for that one, 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:06.440 you know, like there are changes that happen when your 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.440 body goes through trauma. Of but too, I cut it. 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.720 I cut so much of it off that it wasn't 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.680 as heavy, so I think it's able to be a 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.800 little more bouncy than it was before. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.360 Is incredible how the body responds. 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:18.520 Bodies are amazing. 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.840 Take care are amazing. Take care of them. 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.600 Absolutely. KNOWID pay attention to it. If something feels weird 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.840 to you and somebody tells you that's not weird, you 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.320 know what's weird to you, and you know it's not 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.080 weird to you. Yeah, follow through, follow up, get second, third, 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:30.640 fourth opinion. 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.680 You always get answers to your questions. 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.280 Thank God that you have. You're very lucky to have 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.480 a family that has doctors in it. That said, I'm 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.000 not going to accept this answer. You're not going to 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.880 accept this answer. We're going to keep going. There are 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.479 so many people who will just let it die right 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.320 there because you think I'm going to a doctor who's 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.160 a professional, and they are, but it's still just one 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:52.760 person's diagnosis and assessment of a big situation. And if 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.600 it's a young doctor, a new doctor, or maybe a 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:56.880 doctor that's very old, you just never know. You have 0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.360 nothing to lose by checking out a second doctor, but 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.120 you have a freething to lose by not following your 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:03.600 gut and listening to only one opinion. 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:04.120 Exactly. 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.440 Yeah, and we say all the time, any doctor who 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.680 gets offended by you getting a second opinion not a 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:10.359 great right. 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.280 No, they should not be offended. Bedside manners by doctor 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.000 is very important. You want to be you want to 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:15.600 feel seen. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.360 So if people want to get your caps, yes you 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.080 call them capwigs, capwigs. Tell them how to find it. 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.400 Go to Verma foundation dot org spell Verma v as 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:30.760 in Victor E. R Ms and Mary a Verma Foundation 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.560 dot org. You go there and you can get a 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.719 free cap wig. It's completely free. If you are a 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.319 cancer patient currently going through chemo and losing your hair 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.319 due to chemo, you can get a free cap wig. 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:46.719 We give it two women and to children. Every September 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.640 we do a big fashion show in New York City. 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.440 Meta was our beautiful celebrity model one year. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:54.919 I got to walk in. It was so fun. 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.200 Yes, we're going to do it again this September, so 0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:01.840 I hope you will model again. Absolutely amazing and I realize, 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.799 like hair loss is, there's no boundaries. It's just it's 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.600 a woman is being a woman, you know, across the 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.000 world it is. It's a difficult situation across the world. Yeah, 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.040 you can go to Vermafoundation dot org and apply for 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:15.640 a capwig. 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.560 It's a great event. That's also how you raise a 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.279 lot of money so that you can exactly wigs to 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.480 other people for free. And shout out to my dude, 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.400 Elvis because I won't say how much he donated. 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.960 He's amazing. Danielle is amazing too. They all came out 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.960 and supported and I'm so grateful for you guys. That 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.360 all is just so nice. 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.480 Thank you for including us. We love doing this kind 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:37.120 of stuff, honestly. 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:37.480 Good. 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.200 Okay, well I'll drag you guys back in September. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.759 They may or may not be totally interested in being 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:43.799 a model, should you want. 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.240 I would love for both of them to model. 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.080 But now we've talked about a lot of really serious 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.360 stuff and heavy stuff. Just's light in the mood. I 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.120 know that at one point you were in a long 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.040 distance relationship, and if I have heard correctly, you are 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.360 now single and dating. Yes, how's that working out for you? 0:35:58.440 --> 0:35:59.040 In New York City? 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.719 I mean, this is actually the first time that I've 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:07.960 ever dated in Manhattan, New York City, and it's uh, 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:09.480 it's brutal out there. 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.759 It's done. We're tragic to the same. 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.520 That's the word I use. The other day. I look 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.520 around and I'm like, this is tragedy. 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:18.880 It's disgusting. Wait, why is it? 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:19.160 Okay? 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:20.520 I would like to dimond if you want to pull 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:21.799 up to him, Mike, because I want to hear from 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:22.680 both of you. Why dating? 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.560 And yes, I want to hear you disgusting. 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.759 Because I listen, I haven't done it. 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.840 I moved here, right, You're lucky. 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.640 I'm sure if that's true. I mean, if the. 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.160 Worst is that he wears sneakers on the beach, I 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:36.920 will take that. 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.279 That is quite the party foul. I'm not happy with 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.680 that one, but that's to be addressed at a different time. 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.920 I appreciate you noticing Brandon, that is diabolical. When I 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.040 moved here, I was kind of dating somebody from Boston 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.440 and we broke up. And almost immediately after that is 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.520 when Brandon and I started dating. So I didn't get 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.719 to experience this dumpster fire that is dating in New 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.759 York City. Diamond, I'm gonna come to you first. Why 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.640 is it a dumpster fire? Does it supposed to be 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.040 the mecca of successful young people? 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.680 These men are just trash. They're horrible. Yeah, I don't 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:11.680 care what anyone says. 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:13.960 Mothers need to do a better job of raising their 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:14.839 children these days. 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.640 I'm tired of raising Oh yeah, woman's son. 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:19.520 They're horrible. 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.680 Something is always on the same page with that. Okay. So, Diamond, 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.839 when you say mothers need to do a better job 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.520 and things are horrible, I need some make sample, Okay. 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.040 So I think that a lot of guys manipulate and 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.400 like they'll make it seem as if they really like you, 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.080 and then something out of nowhere will change and then 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.920 they decide to like take a step back and make 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.120 you seem crazy. 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.040 For still gaslight. 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:42.640 Yeah, it's it's very weird. 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.520 Luckily, I don't let myself get into that trap with 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:46.240 guys anymore. 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.120 But so then how do you how do you know? 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:49.600 How do I know? 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:49.960 What? Like? 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.840 Oh, I don't give anybody the time of day anymore. 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.960 I'm just like, I've decided to back up. 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.600 They're focused on yourself. They are, Yeah, they are. I 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.640 think like there's something about Manhattan, which is there's so 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.840 many options. How can someone commit? You know, it's like 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.120 that too. It's just you're battling with you know, you're 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.440 battling with so many options. There's so many people here. 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.440 So it's the land of the man child. Maybe, Yes, 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.919 you've got these dudes who are just out here experiencing life. 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.480 There are so many beautiful, successful, amazing women. They're dabbling 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.479 in all of it, and then maybe they turn. However 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.240 they turn, they're ready to settle down, and they probably 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:24.879 move somewhere else. 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:29.320 Yeah. Possibly, I'm convinced when like a man wants to 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.000 settle down, it's just like whoever's in front of him. Yep, 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.200 that's the one. Let's do it. 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.520 One hundred percent. Oh my god, My friends and I've 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.560 been talking about this because I have so many friends 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.160 who have been in relationships for long amounts of time 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.279 and they break up with this dude because he wasn't 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.399 ready to commit. Fast forward a few years, he's dating 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:47.960 someone for ten seconds, and all of a sudden they're 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.479 getting married. 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:48.839 Yeah. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.160 It's like, oh, you just got to be in the 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:51.359 right place at the right time. 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.520 Timing for men, it's like timing. It's like for them, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.680 it's just it's just oh that works, that fits a 0:38:57.920 --> 0:38:59.960 which is just I don't know, is that full film. 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.480 I don't know. It is sad, it's very lazy. 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:10.160 Yeah, actually, well that is. That's what they are. No 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.080 man bashing. It's true. I listen, I'm one hundred percent 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.600 with you, guys, and a lot of these a lot 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.200 of these things. But I will ask you, Diamond, I'm 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:17.960 gonna ask you first, and Natasha you can think about it. 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.120 If you were going to let's say you want to 0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.240 build a dream man, there's a guy out there listening 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.160 to this podcast, who is the right guy for you? 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:27.319 What is that guy? 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.680 Well, first of all, he'd look like Solomon Thomas. 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.880 Okay, so Thomas Jets. 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:41.880 He'd be ambitious, kind, trustworthy. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.920 I'm trying to think of the important things. 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:47.360 You know, those are very important. 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.120 Trustworthy is really big. 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.880 Yeah, absolutely family orient oriented. But I don't know, because 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.839 then I don't want to fight over Christmas and who 0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.960 we spend time with, you know, things like that really. 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.520 Bother the other day, the boundary with family is important. 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.439 He's Andrew is very are my producer, other producer, Andrew, 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.200 He's very close with his family, and we were talking 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.120 about splitting holidays. You know, how does that work. I'm like, 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.000 you just got a date an orphan and then they're 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.279 always with your family. It's fine. I have a lot 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:12.880 of good ideas. 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.680 So, like maybe family oriented in theory, and they want 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.440 to be family oriented, but you grew up like on 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.560 the other side of the country, you know, so you 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.360 can't always go back home, you know. 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:27.400 Things like that, So them to be oriented to your family, absolutely, okay. 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.880 But not too much because I don't want you to 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:31.200 be telling secrets. 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.600 To my mom. But you know, things like that, I 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:32.920 don't know. 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.800 Are you still on the train of you need a 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:37.239 rich guy. 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.600 I would love someone who makes more than me. 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.520 Okay, you know, and you're saying at least fifty percent 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.320 more because I need Yeah, I'm so yeah, okay, like 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.520 you know, I mean she has to have a standard. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.640 These guys I can't, like, if you're not going to 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.400 bring anything to the table, at least bring cash, I can't. 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:56.680 So you would a rich trash bag? 0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:00.239 No, but they're all dumb. So you know, build her 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:05.239 perfect man. Yes, honestly love may not exist, but love no. 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.799 But but honestly, if we're talking about who I want 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.799 to get married to, really i'd love to love them, right, 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.480 but like if marriage is a business, yeah, so like, 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:15.959 come on, at least know how to manage your money, 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.920 you know, yeah, I would never mind let it out. 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.080 I would love him to have like a family trust, 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.520 you know what I mean saying every time we're talking 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.320 about ideal ideal? 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:29.560 Right, I did ask you ideal? 0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.080 Okay, thanks, give me some equity and a nice company, 0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.040 come on maybe or something like that, you know what 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:38.640 I'm saying, nice watches. 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:43.000 But just like trustworthy, someone that's easy to talk to 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.680 and that's fun or funny, I don't know which one both. No, 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:51.279 but I kind of like boring people too, so like, 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.680 as long as you're funny, we could just be boring together. 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:55.360 You know, if you're funny, you're not boring. 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.040 No, no, no, you could be funny and boring. 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.320 Yeah, funny in the house. 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.440 Okay, you know, Okay, I love that. So, gentlemen, if 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.319 you're listening to this podcast and you're all of those things, 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.319 if you are Solomon Thomas and you have a Hedge fund, okay, 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:11.640 so we have a lot of things that we're like, 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.640 yeah for you, Diamond, Natasha. 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.399 I thought about this as Diamond was talking, and those 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.520 are a lot of traits that I too share in 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.200 my dream man, I just feel like I need someone 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.200 who can make life better than what it already is. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:29.399 And it's already pretty freaking nice. And and I don't 0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:33.320 want any stress. I don't want any issues. I don't really. 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.120 You got to bring a lot to the table to 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.960 you know, to date and I. You have to bring 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.279 a lot to the table. And it just has to 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.319 be a better, better life than what I'm going through 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.360 right now. It should compliment your life. You shouldn't have 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:48.120 to feel like you are being put in their life, 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.359 right or that you're having to mold to their life. 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.680 It should compliment the life that you already live, and 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.080 it should grow it and it should you just get 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.439 it has to be better than what I've got going 0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.120 on right now. I put the bar pretty high. Absolutely, 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.560 So for me, it's like, yeah, trustworthy, honest, loyal, kind, 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:11.640 generous Solomon Thomas. You know, it's just someone who's motivated, 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:19.960 who's ambitious, likes dogs. Obviously, Obviously that's a big thing 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.320 to see how a guy walks your dog, and like 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.880 that's how your dog responds to the guy. Yes, that's important. 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.240 I've told Diamond this because Diamond has a weird relationship 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.120 with dogs. She wants a dog. She wants a dog, 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.000 she doesn't want to walk the dog, and she hates 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.120 everyone else's dog. 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.440 Wait, so do you just like the idea of a dog? Okay, 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.000 I get that. I feel that. I feel that. I 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.480 mean when I a companion. 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.400 Yes, I think she should get a stuffed animal, to. 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.640 Be honest, honestly, yeah, you can get one of those 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.480 like really warm stuffed animals that have like a beating 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:54.600 heart something like that. 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.040 She thinks she's gonna put the dog on a trackpad 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.320 and it's just going to walk that way because she 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:01.359 says she's not taking her dog out. 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.440 Well they do. If you get a small enough dog, 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.640 you can do peapads in the apartment, which is vile, 0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:07.759 but you people do that. 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:09.960 No, Diamond, you know you're not going to torture your 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:27.839 family with a pea pad dog. So if somebody wants 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.080 to date you, Natasha, are you doing like dating apps? 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.920 Are you? I'm not doing dating apps? Please, I'm not 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.440 doing dating apps. I downloaded them for all of like 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.680 twenty four hours before I'm like, this is not the 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.319 this is the wild West. I not belong on here 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:42.920 are you on. 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:43.719 The top of the top. 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.919 I'm still waitlisted on Riya? Okay me wait listen on Riya, 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.960 which like now it's like it's like who is she? 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:50.279 Right? 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.719 Whatever? I just now it's become a point of pride 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.120 where I'm like, now I don't even want to know. 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.960 But then all my friends who are on Riya tell 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.279 me that it is not what it's cracked up to be, 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.520 what it you to be, and like there's these ghost 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:05.959 accounts and like wannabes and and I have an ex 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.000 on there who is a massive wanna bee, like that 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:10.480 Just that tells me I don't even want to be 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.000 on that app. If he exists on that app, I 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:12.919 don't want to be on that app. 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.439 So I've heard and I don't know, but I've heard that. Yes, 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.000 there have been a couple of people who have found 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:17.560 love on there. 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:18.040 Mm hmm. 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.840 However, for the majority, at this point, it just seems 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.319 to be a sugar daddy sugar baby website where if 0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.520 he's kind of like older successful dudes and then just 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.560 a bunch of young like Instagram models or whatever is 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.360 going on, just that just does not interest me. So, 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.000 but are you open to each other wise this never 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.239 happens anymore? Are you open to people who approach you 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.000 in public? Yes? 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.799 I think that yeah. And my ideal, in my ideal world, 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.200 it's going to be like a meet cute situation and 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:47.359 it's like, oh hi. 0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.640 Like both walking your brother's mountain dogs. 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.879 Yes, and like oh wow, this is this is so great. 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.400 You two have like two vacuums. That's amazing. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.400 Perfect. So if you like Natasha and you want to 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.719 approach her, two vacuums is a solid opening conversation. Start, 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:07.200 We're gonna we're gonna get this together. 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.560 Yeah, it's great. You're gonna be at my matchmakers. 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.520 I can't wait. Yes, if it happens because of this podcast, 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:13.520 I would like to come to the wedding. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.840 Oh, that would be amazing. I'd also like to be 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:16.560 at the wedding too. 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.440 See a girl can dream. All right, So so much 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.560 that we've talked about your foundation name one more time. 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:28.759 Yes, Verma Foundation dot org dot org, Verma Foundation dot org, 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:32.400 Verma Foundation on Instagram. I'm on Instagram too. Oh and 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.560 I just launched a new podcast that you were on. 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.000 Yes, you did look to drop your podcast Talking. 0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.560 With Natasha and it's on YouTube and it's on Fox Local. 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.160 Meta was one of our early guests, and it was 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.880 a great conversation. It's just fun because you know, we 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.560 are buttoned up on the news. We got three minutes 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:54.960 to talk and then you know, we that's it. Three minutes. 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.840 It's it's it's we move fast. They're our shows. And 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.000 so I wanted a format where I can sit down 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:01.920 and really get to know someone. You know, we get 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.920 to go deep and I have really interesting conversations with people. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.240 So check us out on YouTube. 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.680 Absolutely. So we've got your foundation, We've got your podcast. 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:10.800 You can catch her on Fox five at five, six. 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.480 And ten, five six and ten pm weeknights. 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.719 Baby fancy you're in the streets, gentlemen, mention that you 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.239 have two vacuums. Thank you so much for joining, Thank 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:20.880 you for having me. 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:21.879 This is so fun. 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.120 I love to have you come back. 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.120 And that was interesting. 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:33.880 I think it was fun to talk to her about 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.040 her personal life. Who thought she would go there, but 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:36.680 she did. 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:37.200 Wow. 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.439 Yeah, and Natasha Burma everybody if you want to holler 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.840 at a babe, apparently she's single and look in and 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:47.759 really mad at her ex. So that's interesting. So let's 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.120 get to the burn book because we haven't done it 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.879 in episodes and episodes. Yeah, I would like to burn 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:59.200 you and our entire little swollen chat fan burns because 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:01.520 this is week three that I've been part of it. 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:03.120 You've been part of it for how long? 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.799 I mean it was a week before you join. Okay, 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:07.080 that reinstated. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:11.160 Okay, So every week somebody is the leader of the 0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.319 group and you have to come up with the exercises 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.879 and tasks. Some of them are physical and then there's 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.960 like mental health stuff and hey, like just do this 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.080 so that you are leading a more fulfilled life. So 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.160 I'm the leader this week and nobody has done anything, 0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.479 and I submit it is because there is a brown 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:29.680 woman as the leader that the white males in the 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:30.920 group are not respecting it. 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:31.719 What say you? 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.320 So it's Monday right when we're recording this, Yes, so 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.040 let's let's let that enter the chat. 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.000 Oh so we shouldn't talk about your super fucking birthday? 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.400 So what you're say the whole beginning of this? 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:47.399 Okay? I hate that you can edit. Yes, so it's Monday. Yeah, 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:48.720 it's been one. 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.560 Day, right, and nobody did anything on one day, So. 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.680 That's going to the today. Not done. We're going to 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:55.800 the gym together today. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.560 But did this happen to anyone else? 0:48:57.880 --> 0:48:57.920 No? 0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:58.480 Did it? 0:48:58.920 --> 0:48:59.080 Yes? 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.400 No it didn't, Yes didn't. Everyone just argues with each 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.360 other in ninety nine percent of the time. Also, that 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.120 chat moves so fast and all you have to do 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.040 is say like one word and it goes off topic. 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.800 Mm hmm, A bunch of Gish gallopers. 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:15.000 If you will lead by the Gish galloper herself. 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.000 I do not change the topic. I stay on topic. 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:18.920 No, I admitted wrote a million. 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.200 First of all, my task yesterday was going to be 0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.920 so easy. I said, I feel like somebody needs to 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.839 dance around in their apartment for forty five minutes work 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.640 up a sweat. Who doesn't do that anyway? I do 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.919 it all the time, all the time. Nobody apparently wanted 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:30.960 to do that, and I knew they weren't going to 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.440 send videos, so I said, okay, how about I sent 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.480 an actual workout and then said fifteen minute walk on 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.680 top of this outside because it was a beautiful day, 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.800 and then fifteen minutes of stretching because these dumb boys 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.600 do not stretch and they fucking need to. People can't 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.680 touch their toes. It's a sad, sad scene out here. 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:50.319 Nobody did it. I even submitted all mine, and then 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.080 I said, all week, I want to know one thing 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.360 that made you laugh, one thing that you learned, and 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.040 one thing you're grateful for. And I even led as 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.760 a leader, led by example, and I sent my information 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:01.200 to everybody. And what did I get? 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:02.400 Crickets? 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.160 I thought it was at the end of the week. 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.919 Crickets. Why did you think that when I said all week? 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:11.080 Oh so, whichever day we learned that Andrew doesn't read 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:11.600 through the. 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.960 Actual challenges well because forty seven thousand texasages later and 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.760 then for some reason always comes. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.880 Back to me because you're the little ringleader and all 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:23.319 of that turning the project and then tap the fuck out. 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.480 And Josh, by the way, would never do a group 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.920 project with that man. Oh yeah, he just lurks and 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:32.200 then sends pictures of his poop. Very true for those reasons, 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:32.680 I am out, and. 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:38.120 I I, you know, it's Monday, We're going to work 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.360 out today, and I'll send what I'm grateful for and 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:41.400 something that you learned and. 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.719 Something that made you laugh. So I even was nice 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:46.239 to you yesterday and I said, one of the things 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.479 I'm grateful for was mom and Donna's plate of food. 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:49.759 So you were grateful to my mom? 0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:50.160 Yeah? 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.200 Yeah, which was nice. 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.719 Because I could have said how she harasses animals by 0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:55.600 tapping on glass. 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.680 You already had in a podcast. 0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.080 Duffing that looked like cat food. 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:02.480 I bet it was really it is really good. 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:02.959 Yeah. 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.600 Yeah, So I was saying, I said, you talk talk. 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.720 About my mother. 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.320 I said, I was grateful for Donna. You should be 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:14.279 thank you, Mama. Donna. 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:16.560 Did you got chicken parm in there too? 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:16.800 No? 0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.000 Maybe she give me the extra call it. 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:19.359 Oh? 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.840 Absolutely, it was great, and I was very thankful for that. 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.560 And then I realized I'm in a group of rat finks. 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.080 And because of that, Andrew's costume for his own party, 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:31.600 he needs to be a playgrat. 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.239 I'm it's Monday. We're gonna work out this whole week. 0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:37.320 It's gonna be very active. 0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:39.600 I'll see how this goes. 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:40.640 Oh, it'll be great. 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:43.200 I submit. I got Kamala Harris. 0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:46.440 Trust me, it's gonna be fine, because you know what's 0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:48.640 gonna happen when it's me next week. You know what's 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:50.800 gonna happen. I'm gonna say, hey, do these forty five minutes. 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:52.719 That's when all of a sudden, Nick and Timy are 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.319 gonna be It's not hard enough, do something worse. 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:58.160 I want to get. I'm gonna get to be in pain. 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.560 We listen, your little friend Tommy is a Tommy is 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:05.560 a per problem. Tommy, by the way, one survivor how long. 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.720 Ago twenty twenty? 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.319 Oh that that was not that long ago. 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:13.880 Listen, Tommy's still a rat. 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:15.280 And I gave him the substance. 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:17.000 Let me tell you, what do you mean you gave 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:17.720 him the substance. 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:23.040 There's these drinks which they should sponsor you called zebiotics. 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:23.200 They should sponsor you. 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:23.920 I don't know what they are. 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:27.960 They're these little glass vials and you drink them before 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:29.879 you drink or you know you're going to go out. 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:32.200 I don't know how. 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.560 My friend Casey, who gets terrible hangovers, put me onto these. 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:40.160 His doctor said, listen, it's not medication. So like, I'm 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.120 not going to prescribe you this. You still have to 0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.960 pay and buy these things. But it helps with hangovers 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:48.600 a lot. Oh, they are little miracles in a vial. 0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:51.160 So I call them the substance because you have to 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:52.760 respect the balance of your. 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.320 Interesting not drunk and drunk zelp Okay, Well, this is 0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:57.640 why I will say Tommy is a rat. 0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:58.040 Yeah. 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.120 He sends photos of him doing alleged workouts that you 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.520 should be laying down doing and he's clearly standing up. 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.839 This is a group of weasels. No cure's the only 0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:08.960 one following through this shit. 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.239 Insane about this, and I'm just gonna put this out 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.160 there on blast. What's insane is I could be like, 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.000 I did it, where's the photoproof stand up video? Meanwhile 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.320 Tommy does it and then immediately heart. 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.759 Exit swag dog, not your the best. I'm the one 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:22.560 that called him out on it. 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:26.799 No, I'm saying, it's Nick and Tommy who support each other, 0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.800 and then when it comes to anybody else, it's, oh. 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:31.000 Sorry, there's a bit of a bromance happening. 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:31.960 And then there's Josh. 0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.160 He does nothing but every now and then'll just chimes 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.200 in with sub. 0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:37.520 You know, respect to that. 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:40.759 This is trash, this stupid ass swoll fam. Anyway, it's 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:41.239 getting us. 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:41.680 To work out. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:42.120 It is. 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:43.879 I worked out so much last week. 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:44.920 I worked out so much. 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.440 Just yesterday I did six fifteen workouts. 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.200 I have to admit I have lost zero pounds. Oh, 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.000 nothing is happening. I do feel stronger and have more energy. 0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:57.319 But something is just not letting me be my best self. 0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:58.160 It's crazy. 0:53:58.760 --> 0:53:59.440 That's blocking it. 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:00.680 My bad food. 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.640 Yeah, honestly, I was excited to start work again, and 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.600 I've never said that in my life. Just so this 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:09.480 way I could go back to drinking my protein shakes 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.040 in the morning and going back to like cooking my dinner, 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:12.920 like going. 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:14.960 Back to a routine because you stayed here. 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.840 Yeah, but I'm not on a routine. Okay, it's like 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.759 I vacation from my routine. You know, even if it's 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.000 a staycation, I still don't have to do everything, like 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:23.600 I have a. 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:29.759 Stupid that's so dumb. Yes, I have a toothbrush that 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.719 you count each zone that you're in. 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:32.120 Yeah. 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:33.560 It takes me like two and a half minutes to 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.879 brush my teeth every night. That's good, it is great. 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.960 But when I'm on vacation, I don't do it. I 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:42.120 just brush my teeth normal And I'm like, say, yes, 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:43.000 are you insane? 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.759 What do you mean you just vacation from like taking 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:46.439 care of your teeth. 0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:48.640 I'm still taking care of them. I just don't do 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.360 the full get up of like, oh, here we go. 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.120 Well, I'm glad you're back, Andrew. 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:54.640 Thanks. No, I love a routine. 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.080 I'm glad you're here to bring back your routine. 0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:57.439 Thanks. 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.960 Okay, so people want to follow along on your journey 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.239 on Instagram where they find you Andrew Bug. There's no 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.440 journey posted, no, but that's just where he is. And 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.680 he finally he's still over ten thousand, which is exciting 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:08.840 because now he gets. 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.319 To be what does that make you, like a influencer. 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.600 Okay, he's an influencer. 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.960 And influence her swipe up go to lincod Bio my 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.200 parents when we were in the city. Sorry, I'm also 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:21.960 making this way too long. 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.520 Galloping, No, that's not what a Gish gallop is. 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:26.560 It's an it's changing topic a lot you're not staying 0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.320 on top of anyway. 0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:32.680 Also, Jackie listens now hijack Jackie. She wants to be 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:33.600 a guest on your podcast. 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:34.440 I would love to have her. 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:36.399 Oh wow. She's like, I'm gonna text Gandhi and see 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:37.160 if i could be a guest. 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:37.560 Oh. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.560 So she started laying the foundation already. Yeah, yeah, Jackie, 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:41.120 come on down. 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:41.680 Anyway. 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:43.759 So my parents we were in the city. We were 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:45.839 passing all these places with huge lines outside of them. 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.239 Coincidentally saw Nick outside of one randomly. When do you 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:51.480 ever see someone in New York and see like your bestie? Anyway, 0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:53.319 So we passed all these restaurants and they're like, why 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.799 do people go to these like basic ass pasta places now? 0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.359 And I'm like, it's because of influencers. 0:55:58.560 --> 0:55:58.759 Yeah. 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.719 The best pass that you can find is in the 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:02.880 Lower east Side. 0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.600 They serve delicious reggae, tony and great now gronies. 0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:13.960 It's the worst book is the best pasta you'll have? 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:15.239 Yes? The worst. 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:19.360 The voices are terrible, the advice is terrible, the expert 0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:23.080 level is terrible. It's just everything is trash anymore, and 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.719 you can pay people to say whatever you want them 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:28.680 to say. Ye, scar zones, and it's just it's nonsense. 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.839 Don't listen to anybody, Listen to yourselves, listen to experts. Yeah, 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.919 we'll leave you with that, as we say, go follow 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:39.240 the influencer. Andrew pug Leacy Poli Say Andrew Pug Andrew 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.920 Pug on Instagram, I am at Baby Hot Sauce Like, Follow, 0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.600 subscribe until next time we say bye bye