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Speaker 1: Well, hello, Andrew. Oh, hi, Gandhi the fake happiness.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Are you happy because today the episode is on your birthday?

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Speaker 3: Yes, are my birthday?

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Speaker 1: What are you so excited about for your birthday?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's off on the side. Hello, and

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Speaker 1: this is Andrew. I mean Andrew for Diamond for a second,

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Speaker 1: and it's his birthday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a big special day.

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Speaker 2: A big special day. Okay, what are you doing for

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Speaker 4: Going out for dinner? Are you going Gray Wind? It's

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Speaker 4: the Dan Cougar restaurant, Yes, for the delicious Indian food.

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Speaker 4: But that was just for a one off thing right

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Speaker 4: also not important to the conversation right now. And then

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Speaker 4: I'm doing this thing on the edge where you put

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Speaker 4: your back and you like lean back. Michelle, my friend,

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Speaker 4: she got us tickets for.

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Speaker 2: It, so that'll be so fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, fingers crossed. I'll be here on May first,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't fall off the edge.

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Speaker 2: You will be there.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna make it. It's gonna be okay. Having a

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Speaker 1: birthday party before your birthday party? Uh not really, this

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Speaker 1: is more of just like a dinner and an event.

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Speaker 4: Well, the event only happened because someone else bought tickets

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Speaker 1: No, this is great because then I don't have to

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Speaker 3: No, it's not a birthday party.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a birthday party.

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Speaker 3: It's not a birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Going to dinner and then I'm going out to have

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Speaker 3: No, there is no party.

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Speaker 1: Come to your other party.

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Speaker 3: There is no party.

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Speaker 1: So you're one of these people like Diamond who insists

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Speaker 4: No, this was the only available day and it was

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Speaker 1: How the story changes.

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Speaker 4: The story didn't change. We're Gallop Gish Gallop. That is

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Speaker 3: Look it up. That's your argument strategy, Gish Gallop. That

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Speaker 3: you're a Gish galluper.

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Speaker 4: You throw a bunch of things and you change topics

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Speaker 1: No, you're having okay, we'll say on the one topic,

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Speaker 1: you're having a birthday party on your birthday, and then

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Speaker 1: you're having a birthday.

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Speaker 3: On the weekend that's May third.

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Speaker 1: There's no gift galloping it is or gifting or galloping.

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Speaker 4: You're the one said, so you're throwing a birthday party.

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Speaker 4: Oh so I don't have to go to your birthday party.

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Speaker 2: Then okay, so that's the same topic.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You're having your birthday party, your second birthday party. It's

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Speaker 3: But there is no birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a birthday party to me. It's geez, leave

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Speaker 1: us here in for your feedback. Is Andrew having a

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Speaker 1: birthday party and then another birthday party.

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Speaker 3: A birthday with friends?

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Speaker 2: That's a party.

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Speaker 3: That is not a party.

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Speaker 1: How many people are going to be there?

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Speaker 3: Six?

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Speaker 2: That's a party.

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Speaker 3: It's not a party. Six it's not a party.

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Speaker 1: That is when you get extra gratuity included on your

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Speaker 2: Eight, it's six, it's eight, it's six.

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Speaker 2: No? At six, that's a party.

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Speaker 3: It's not a party. It is, it's not.

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Speaker 1: I think it is. Also, will there be cake? No

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Speaker 1: let me let me catch a cake, Andrew, and it's

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Speaker 1: a party. I'm not going to your other party.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's because you can buy a costume.

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Speaker 1: Yet I already have my costume. It arrived yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And what are you plague grat?

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you. I thought about it, but they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: I also wanted to be a lepper. Not great costumes there, damn.

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Speaker 1: But there was a lot happening in medieval times, a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a party.

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Speaker 1: Oh your second party.

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Speaker 3: No, it's going to be my only party.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, what is your first costume for your second party?

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Speaker 3: It has ears?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, now I hate the costume.

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Speaker 1: I actually that was one of the things I was

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Speaker 3: But queans were in a thing.

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Speaker 1: Like ever, jeans still aren't a thing in like most.

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Speaker 1: I love jeans, yeah, they say. Apparently in Europe that's

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Speaker 1: They are pretty fucking great.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any hopes for your birthday party?

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Speaker 4: I hope everyone has a really fun time, and I

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Speaker 1: Oh, we still haven't done that yet.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I'm gonna do it at the Country

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna be in costume.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Where's the country bar in Jersey City?

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Speaker 3: Boots and bones?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a country bar?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What do you think the boots and the bones?

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Speaker 3: You've been in this bar.

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Speaker 1: I know time. I'm very surprised that it's a country bar.

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Speaker 1: I swear to god they were playing DM.

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Speaker 3: Country eight M. What is that the Caine Brown song?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Either way, we can definitely get in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on everybody's costumes.

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Speaker 4: I want everybody to show up in their full medieval

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Speaker 1: Are you in the phase of this party where people

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Not really, because I said it's medieval in your heart.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to put so much weight into it

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Josh tapped out of the costume party.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, I don't care. You do you?

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Speaker 4: You don't want to be on theme? That's like go

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Speaker 3: You do it.

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Speaker 4: You're doing the thing, You're sticking it to society by

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Speaker 1: For your second birthday party because you specifically said that's

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Speaker 4: Medieval in your heart if you really want to be

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Speaker 3: Oh so you do stand out?

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's buying one and her friend Nan is coming,

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Speaker 1: So you're like cool, So I got games exactly games.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Kirby, I learned her this day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so today's episode, because we haven't done the burn

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Speaker 1: Get to Natasha Urma. She's my guest today. She used

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Speaker 2: How are you, Natasha, Hey girl, I'm doing great. How

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. So Natasha. If you don't know,

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: But I have kind of known her since before we

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Speaker 1: both even moved to New York. Yes, have friends in common.

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Speaker 1: She used to be an anchor in Boston.

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Speaker 2: We have so many parallels. Yeah, Boston, Florida, New York,

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Speaker 2: crazy coworkers, crazy hair stories.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she get into all of it.

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Speaker 2: All into it.

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Speaker 2: paranoid Yeah, lakes, sweetie, you're paranoid, like, calm down. It

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00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 2: happened to be the day of the solar eclipse. So

448
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 2: the beds were empty in this emergency room. And so

449
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, lucky, I do have like I do

450
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 2: have some availability for you to do an ultrasound. And

451
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, just just do his no skin off your back,

452
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 2: just do it right. And so we do an ultrasound

453
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget. Like this tech is doing the ultrasound.

454
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 2: She brings in a second tech to take a look

455
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 2: at it, and it's almost like I told you so,

456
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 2: feeling I knew it, I'm feeling validated. And I go

457
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 2: back to the examination room sitting there on the bed.

458
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 2: The doctor's like coming in. He's like, look, we're we're

459
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 2: just double checking some stuff, but we need to do

460
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,199
Speaker 2: a CT scan. Prior to this, my dad I had

461
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 2: gotten my dad on the phone and be like, you know,

462
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 2: talk to this doctor to get me an ultrasound. My

463
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: Dad's like, sir, I would get a CT scan and

464
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 2: he's like, well, this is America. In America, we don't

465
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: just jump to CT scan. My dad's been a doctor

466
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 2: for almost forty years and I'm not an accent, like

467
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 2: he has a slight accent, but not really. It doesn't

468
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 2: First of all, it doesn't matter. But I can't even

469
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 2: hear it anymore. You know.

470
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: It's like I didn't know my parents had accents until

471
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: I was like fifteen years old. Yeah, I never heard it.

472
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just beag. Yeah.

473
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: First it was SWEETI or fine, you're gonna get bumps

474
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: and bruises, and it was like, in America, that's not

475
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: how we do him. I've been a practicing doctor in

476
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 1: America for quite some time.

477
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 2: I asked my dad after the fact, like, do you

478
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: fault this doctor? And he's like, I don't you know.

479
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 2: You know, in a way, he's observing what he can,

480
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 2: but he should have done an ultrasound when he had

481
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: a you know, a more experienced doctor chatting with him.

482
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have had an ego about it. And seat scan,

483
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: we do it. It comes back and the demeanor of

484
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: this doctor had completely changed. Color drained from his face

485
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: and he sits there pale, and he's just like, so,

486
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: given your age, we think that it could be Hodgkinson foma.

487
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 2: My dad's on the phone listening to this. My Dad's like,

488
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: it's cancer. You can say it's cancer because that's what

489
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: it is. I'm thinking like, oh, the kind of cancer

490
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: really take a pill goes way like no, no, no,

491
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: this is cancer. So I had a tumor on my collarbone,

492
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: but I also had a tumor on the other side.

493
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: I had a mass in my chest and that's what

494
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: was kind of creating that pushback in my chest, and

495
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 2: it was spreading fast, it was growing fast, and it

496
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: was stage two and it was three. It started off

497
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: with three rounds of chemo, three rounds of radiation, but

498
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: with the mass in my chest and given the fact

499
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: that I was twenty three, you know, they had reservations

500
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: with you know, zapping my chest for breast cancer concerns

501
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: down the road. So we decided to do six rounds

502
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: of chemo. So up to the chemo, so we couldn't

503
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: so we didn't have to do radiation, and then we

504
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 2: would kind of reevaluate and see how the chemo took.

505
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: Chemo did really well. I lost all my hair, but

506
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, chemo did its job, and it was you know,

507
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: it was a journey. It was a very very painful journey.

508
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean chemo really really hurt, like my body physically.

509
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: I've heard that from so many people, knock on wood

510
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: that I have not experienced it and hopefully will not

511
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: have to in my life, but I hear that so

512
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: terrible thing, and the amount of people who go through

513
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: chemo and beat cancer is incredible and amazing. We love

514
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: to hear it. That's why we liked medicine, and we

515
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 1: love our researchers and doctors. Yes, very important, grants are

516
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: very important. But through all of this, you lose all

517
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: of your hair. Are you still on TV while this

518
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: is happening?

519
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: So I had this delusional thought that I was gonna

520
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: stay on TV. I'm like, that's fine, I'll do I'll

521
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 2: do the traffic anchoring in the morning and then I'll

522
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: go get my chemo. And no, I was. I was wiped.

523
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: It turns out I'm allergic to pain meds, so I

524
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: had a host of side effects, and before you know it,

525
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: I was on like twenty different pills because I was

526
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: treating side effects of side effects. So I had to

527
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: step away, and because I didn't know what was going

528
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: on with me, didn't feel comfortable with sharing it with

529
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 2: the world. With what I was going through, I mean,

530
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: some people battle publicly and that's amazing. And then some

531
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: people battle privately and that's amazing too. It's just whatever's

532
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: comfortable for you. And I had to process that privately

533
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: because I was I was scared. I had no idea

534
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: what was going on with me. So I went through it,

535
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: and then I finally announced when I was coming back,

536
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: I had like articles come out that said, you know,

537
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: Natasha got fired by NBC, or like where is she?

538
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: Gotta love the communications business, no communication.

539
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: Like she's really uplifting when you're not feeling well.

540
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: I know. Just rumors were flying around of like where

541
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: is she? What happened?

542
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, like Princess Kate.

543
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Hardly. It was a crazy time and and when I

544
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: came out, I decided that I'm going to do something

545
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: good with this, So I'm going to announce the formation

546
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: of this new program that we do through my foundation,

547
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: the Verma Foundation. Where I lost all my hair and

548
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: that was really horrific, and there were no resources during

549
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: that time. I think my oncologist, who's incredible, you know,

550
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: she just said just like, hey, by the way, do

551
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: you have a wig? You're going to lose your hair,

552
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: And I just remember thinking, oh, no, I don't, I

553
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: don't think that it's gonna happen to me, and I

554
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: go and look and they're calling themselves cranial prosthesis prosthetic,

555
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: and it was just like, it's a wig, babe, And

556
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: this is before you go back to being on TV,

557
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: before I go back to being on TV.

558
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: So there was no time that you were on TV

559
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: without your hair.

560
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I wore a wig. I wore a wig when I

561
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: when I decided to go back on TV, finally I

562
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: had like a buzz cut, and so I thought, Okay,

563
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: well I can't do that. I'm gonna wear I got

564
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: a nice lace front, let's Beyonce a wig. I'm like,

565
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: what is Beyonce where I want that? Turns out it's

566
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: very expensive. Oh yeah, like that. So I got help

567
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: from a stylist for that, and I got a nice

568
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: lace front wig. It looked so good and I did

569
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: that and I wore that, and then finally I had

570
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: like I felt good enough to go on air like

571
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: without my wig and it was short, like short hair.

572
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: I did it.

573
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: It was a big deal to take my wig off.

574
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: That was a lot of time. I was so much

575
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: anxiety leading up to that. I couldn't sleep all night.

576
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, I did not feel confident

577
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: or beautiful. I'm like, you know what I'm gonna do it.

578
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ditch the wig. I don't need the wig,

579
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be myself and I go on air

580
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: and like it was a powerful moment and my colleagues

581
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: supported me. And then I remember the general manager comes

582
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: up to me and he was like, hey, you know

583
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: that was great and all and like so powerful, but

584
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: next time you do a drastic physical appearance change like

585
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: let us know, oh my goodness, so that's television. And

586
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I don't think I'm gonna work

587
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 2: here anymore. This is crazy.

588
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: Is that what made you leave?

589
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: No, I mean just lack of opportunity, And like I

590
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: think in every job, it's like you hit a wall

591
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: and you hit and I think that also is similar

592
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: to what you were experiencing too in Boston, Like you

593
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: kind of hit a wall career wise, and it's like, Okay,

594
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 2: I want to get to that next step, but there

595
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: was no opportunity available, and it just continues. It's a

596
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: theme of betting on yourself and leaving when the time

597
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: is right so that you can pursue something that's going to.

598
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Grow grow you even leaving when you don't think the

599
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: time is right, but you just feel I gotta get

600
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: out of here, got to get out of here. We

601
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: say all the time, if you wait for the time

602
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: to be right, you might be waiting forever because it

603
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: never feels right to make this giant move. But back

604
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: to your hair loss and everything that happened with it.

605
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Your story is very different than my story. But I

606
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: also thought because I wasn't feeling good one day, went

607
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: to the doctor. Doctor was immediately like, get your ass

608
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: to the hospital, and this is crazy. I woke up

609
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: in the hospital, ended up leaving a couple days later,

610
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: and I actually sent the group a text. It was

611
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: that raccoon busting out of the dumpster and I was like,

612
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm back, guys, I'll be back on Monday. That did

613
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: not happen a few weeks later after all of it,

614
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: and I actually thought, yeah, call me, I'll talk to

615
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: you guys, like this is going to be fine. It

616
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: was not fine. And trying to push yourself in those

617
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: situations is not gonna help you. Yeah, gona make you

618
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: feel batter, it's going to prolong everything. And I was

619
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have a good team here who said

620
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: stop trying to get out of that hospital bed and

621
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: come in, just relax and feel better, and it was

622
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: really important. I too, was not prepared for the hair loss.

623
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how yours happened, but we've talked about

624
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: this so many times. Mine was just brushing through it

625
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: on the couch one day and out came a chunk

626
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: of hair that I didn't even know you could lose

627
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: that one time. I was unaware that that's how hair.

628
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Loss shocking, that's trauma. When you see that much hair

629
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: come out.

630
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm dying. Oh my god, I thought

631
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: I was sick. And then the craziest part about all

632
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: of it is that this hair loss, which is devastating

633
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: to your soul and your mental health, there's no physical

634
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: pain involved with it. And I just kept thinking, I

635
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: can't believe this doesn't physically hurt. This is one of

636
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: my favorite things, is just coming out left and right

637
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: and it doesn't hurt, but inside it hurts so much.

638
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: And then I take a step back to the point

639
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: of your doctors like, hey, we just need to get

640
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: better right now. We'll handle this other stuff later. So

641
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: I handled the physical, and then when it came time

642
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: to really addressing well, now your hair fell out, it

643
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: almost felt like that was harder.

644
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: It is that other stuff is harder, right.

645
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: What does that say about us?

646
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: You know?

647
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: A vain assholes?

648
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, okay, I know it's not about vanity, It's

649
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: about dignity. And that's really what carried me through this.

650
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: I too when I launched the foundation and I started

651
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: making these baseball caps with hair attached, giving them for

652
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: free to cancer patients for free. And I thought, this

653
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: is so vain. If I come out like, people are

654
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: gonna think like you're you're worried about losing your hair,

655
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: not your life like cancer. But all these women reached

656
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: out to me, hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, who

657
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: were like, thank you for making something like this. This

658
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: will help me go through treatment, and there's nothing out

659
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: there like this. And it became apparent to me that

660
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: that emotional pain cuts so much deeper than the physical,

661
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 2: because that's that's your will to fight. I mean, there

662
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: were days in between my chemo, so I had chemo

663
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: every ten days, and there were two days in between.

664
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: So was every two weeks, so there were two days

665
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: two to four days where I felt like painless, you know,

666
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: the chemo had cycled out, and I felt really good.

667
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: I felt like myself again. And then I go look

668
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: in the mirror and I could not believe what I saw.

669
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: My eyebrows were gone, my eyelashes gone, my hair was gone.

670
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: I was pale. My skin was like I still have

671
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: these scars, like my veins fried and scarred my skin,

672
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 2: and that my tongue was black. Because chemo kills all

673
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: fast growing cells, including tongue cells, including stomach cells, including

674
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: just everything that's like good. It kills because it's it's

675
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: in a fight mode of killing everything. It's like, you know,

676
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: you're nuking the inside of your body. And there was

677
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: this mind body disconnect when you look in the mirror

678
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: and you don't feel good. When you look good, you

679
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: feel good. And that's so true. That's what it is.

680
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: And so I think that that emotional pain cut so

681
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: deep and to your point of it just coming out,

682
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: the clumps of hair coming out painlessly, I mean, like clockwork.

683
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: It was.

684
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Twenty four hours after my twenty four it was, yeah,

685
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: twenty four hours after my second treatment of chemo. I

686
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: just noticed that I was in the shower like shampooing

687
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: my hair, and it came out in clumps like I

688
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: was able to just pull it out. And then I

689
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: start going in a trauma mode, which is like, oh

690
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: my god, my god, what's happening to me? And it

691
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: was the first physical proof where I'm like cancer's killing me.

692
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: Like before that, I was going through the motions of

693
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: it numb. And that was the first time where it

694
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: was like, my identity is being ripped away from me,

695
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: Like what else is it going to take from me?

696
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: In my case, had I had hair extensions in so

697
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: like all the hair was dying and getting close into

698
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: my hair extensions.

699
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: So much worse to get the extension. I tell everybody

700
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: that don't do it. It's tempting, don't do it.

701
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I'm combing my hair and combing it out.

702
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: So then I had my mom always jokes. I had

703
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: like my ten trusty strands of hair that never fell.

704
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: The ten strands, those ten girls, they stood strong. And

705
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: and there were my little rat tail, you know, like

706
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: in the back of my hair and back of my head,

707
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: and I had my baseball cap on, which is kind

708
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: of how the idea of the cap wig was born.

709
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: As I always wore this Nike cap to go in

710
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: a treatment, and I would just put the cap on

711
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: and I feel good. I'd feel like kind of like,

712
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, in control, and I didn't have to show

713
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: my hair. But I mean in that moment, you're like,

714
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't have a wig.

715
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: What do I do?

716
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: And so thankfully I didn't have a blonde wig I had.

717
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: I had my ride, my brown wig, but I didn't

718
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: I didn't like that wig too. It was made of

719
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: synthetic hair. Hot, yes, synthetic. It was hot, it was

720
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: chi It was not made for someone who's got a

721
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: sensitive scalp going through chemo, and that was kind of

722
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: the basis that looked that, you know, real hair. I

723
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: wanted real hair with the cap attached to give to patients.

724
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: And on the inside of the cap, we have this

725
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: very soft lining, so it's like comforting on the scalp too.

726
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: And so this product that we made is so made

727
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: out of like I was the I was the guinea

728
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: pig for the prototypes of it, and I was going

729
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: through chemo and I just remember thinking like I wish

730
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: I had that during chemo because it was it was great.

731
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: And I did wear the cap wig towards the end too,

732
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: because it's great to transition from maybe you don't want

733
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: to rock your buzzed cut yet back into the world.

734
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I still wear toppers whenever I feel like it. Yeah,

735
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: my hair is finally starting. The curls are back. That

736
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: went away for a while and it was just all

737
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: it was disasterful. We're getting back to it.

738
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh so when your hair started to grow back,

739
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: was was the texture different?

740
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it was actually much curlier than it was previously.

741
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: And I think there are a few reasons for that one,

742
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, like there are changes that happen when your

743
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: body goes through trauma. Of but too, I cut it.

744
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I cut so much of it off that it wasn't

745
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: as heavy, so I think it's able to be a

746
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: little more bouncy than it was before.

747
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: Is incredible how the body responds.

748
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Bodies are amazing.

749
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: Take care are amazing. Take care of them.

750
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely. KNOWID pay attention to it. If something feels weird

751
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: to you and somebody tells you that's not weird, you

752
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: know what's weird to you, and you know it's not

753
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: weird to you. Yeah, follow through, follow up, get second, third,

754
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: fourth opinion.

755
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: You always get answers to your questions.

756
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Thank God that you have. You're very lucky to have

757
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: a family that has doctors in it. That said, I'm

758
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: not going to accept this answer. You're not going to

759
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: accept this answer. We're going to keep going. There are

760
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: so many people who will just let it die right

761
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: there because you think I'm going to a doctor who's

762
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: a professional, and they are, but it's still just one

763
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: person's diagnosis and assessment of a big situation. And if

764
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: it's a young doctor, a new doctor, or maybe a

765
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: doctor that's very old, you just never know. You have

766
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: nothing to lose by checking out a second doctor, but

767
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: you have a freething to lose by not following your

768
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: gut and listening to only one opinion.

769
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Exactly.

770
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we say all the time, any doctor who

771
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: gets offended by you getting a second opinion not a

772
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: great right.

773
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: No, they should not be offended. Bedside manners by doctor

774
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: is very important. You want to be you want to

775
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: feel seen.

776
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: So if people want to get your caps, yes you

777
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: call them capwigs, capwigs. Tell them how to find it.

778
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: Go to Verma foundation dot org spell Verma v as

779
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: in Victor E. R Ms and Mary a Verma Foundation

780
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: dot org. You go there and you can get a

781
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: free cap wig. It's completely free. If you are a

782
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: cancer patient currently going through chemo and losing your hair

783
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: due to chemo, you can get a free cap wig.

784
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: We give it two women and to children. Every September

785
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: we do a big fashion show in New York City.

786
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Meta was our beautiful celebrity model one year.

787
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: I got to walk in. It was so fun.

788
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to do it again this September, so

789
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: I hope you will model again. Absolutely amazing and I realize,

790
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: like hair loss is, there's no boundaries. It's just it's

791
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: a woman is being a woman, you know, across the

792
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: world it is. It's a difficult situation across the world. Yeah,

793
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: you can go to Vermafoundation dot org and apply for

794
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: a capwig.

795
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: It's a great event. That's also how you raise a

796
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: lot of money so that you can exactly wigs to

797
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: other people for free. And shout out to my dude,

798
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Elvis because I won't say how much he donated.

799
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: He's amazing. Danielle is amazing too. They all came out

800
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: and supported and I'm so grateful for you guys. That

801
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: all is just so nice.

802
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Thank you for including us. We love doing this kind

803
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: of stuff, honestly.

804
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: Good.

805
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll drag you guys back in September.

806
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: They may or may not be totally interested in being

807
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: a model, should you want.

808
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: I would love for both of them to model.

809
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: But now we've talked about a lot of really serious

810
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: stuff and heavy stuff. Just's light in the mood. I

811
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: know that at one point you were in a long

812
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: distance relationship, and if I have heard correctly, you are

813
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: now single and dating. Yes, how's that working out for you?

814
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: In New York City?

815
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean, this is actually the first time that I've

816
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: ever dated in Manhattan, New York City, and it's uh,

817
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: it's brutal out there.

818
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: It's done. We're tragic to the same.

819
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: That's the word I use. The other day. I look

820
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: around and I'm like, this is tragedy.

821
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: It's disgusting. Wait, why is it?

822
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 5: Okay?

823
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: I would like to dimond if you want to pull

824
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: up to him, Mike, because I want to hear from

825
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: both of you. Why dating?

826
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: And yes, I want to hear you disgusting.

827
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Because I listen, I haven't done it.

828
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: I moved here, right, You're lucky.

829
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure if that's true. I mean, if the.

830
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Worst is that he wears sneakers on the beach, I

831
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: will take that.

832
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: That is quite the party foul. I'm not happy with

833
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: that one, but that's to be addressed at a different time.

834
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate you noticing Brandon, that is diabolical. When I

835
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: moved here, I was kind of dating somebody from Boston

836
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: and we broke up. And almost immediately after that is

837
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: when Brandon and I started dating. So I didn't get

838
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: to experience this dumpster fire that is dating in New

839
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: York City. Diamond, I'm gonna come to you first. Why

840
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: is it a dumpster fire? Does it supposed to be

841
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: the mecca of successful young people?

842
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: These men are just trash. They're horrible. Yeah, I don't

843
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: care what anyone says.

844
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: Mothers need to do a better job of raising their

845
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 5: children these days.

846
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm tired of raising Oh yeah, woman's son.

847
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: They're horrible.

848
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Something is always on the same page with that. Okay. So, Diamond,

849
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: when you say mothers need to do a better job

850
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: and things are horrible, I need some make sample, Okay.

851
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: So I think that a lot of guys manipulate and

852
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: like they'll make it seem as if they really like you,

853
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: and then something out of nowhere will change and then

854
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 5: they decide to like take a step back and make

855
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: you seem crazy.

856
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: For still gaslight.

857
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very weird.

858
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 5: Luckily, I don't let myself get into that trap with

859
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 5: guys anymore.

860
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: But so then how do you how do you know?

861
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 5: How do I know?

862
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: What? Like?

863
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't give anybody the time of day anymore.

864
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 5: I'm just like, I've decided to back up.

865
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: They're focused on yourself. They are, Yeah, they are. I

866
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: think like there's something about Manhattan, which is there's so

867
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: many options. How can someone commit? You know, it's like

868
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: that too. It's just you're battling with you know, you're

869
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: battling with so many options. There's so many people here.

870
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: So it's the land of the man child. Maybe, Yes,

871
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: you've got these dudes who are just out here experiencing life.

872
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: There are so many beautiful, successful, amazing women. They're dabbling

873
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: in all of it, and then maybe they turn. However

874
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: they turn, they're ready to settle down, and they probably

875
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: move somewhere else.

876
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Possibly, I'm convinced when like a man wants to

877
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: settle down, it's just like whoever's in front of him. Yep,

878
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: that's the one. Let's do it.

879
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Oh my god, My friends and I've

880
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: been talking about this because I have so many friends

881
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: who have been in relationships for long amounts of time

882
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: and they break up with this dude because he wasn't

883
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: ready to commit. Fast forward a few years, he's dating

884
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: someone for ten seconds, and all of a sudden they're

885
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: getting married.

886
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

887
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you just got to be in the

888
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: right place at the right time.

889
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: Timing for men, it's like timing. It's like for them,

890
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: it's just it's just oh that works, that fits a

891
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: which is just I don't know, is that full film.

892
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. It is sad, it's very lazy.

893
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, well that is. That's what they are. No

894
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: man bashing. It's true. I listen, I'm one hundred percent

895
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: with you, guys, and a lot of these a lot

896
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: of these things. But I will ask you, Diamond, I'm

897
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna ask you first, and Natasha you can think about it.

898
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: If you were going to let's say you want to

899
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: build a dream man, there's a guy out there listening

900
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: to this podcast, who is the right guy for you?

901
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: What is that guy?

902
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, he'd look like Solomon Thomas.

903
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so Thomas Jets.

904
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: He'd be ambitious, kind, trustworthy.

905
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the important things.

906
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: You know, those are very important.

907
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Trustworthy is really big.

908
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely family orient oriented. But I don't know, because

909
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 5: then I don't want to fight over Christmas and who

910
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 5: we spend time with, you know, things like that really.

911
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: Bother the other day, the boundary with family is important.

912
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: He's Andrew is very are my producer, other producer, Andrew,

913
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: He's very close with his family, and we were talking

914
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: about splitting holidays. You know, how does that work. I'm like,

915
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: you just got a date an orphan and then they're

916
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: always with your family. It's fine. I have a lot

917
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: of good ideas.

918
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: So, like maybe family oriented in theory, and they want

919
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: to be family oriented, but you grew up like on

920
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: the other side of the country, you know, so you

921
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 5: can't always go back home, you know.

922
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Things like that, So them to be oriented to your family, absolutely, okay.

923
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: But not too much because I don't want you to

924
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: be telling secrets.

925
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: To my mom. But you know, things like that, I

926
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: don't know.

927
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Are you still on the train of you need a

928
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: rich guy.

929
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: I would love someone who makes more than me.

930
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, and you're saying at least fifty percent

931
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 5: more because I need Yeah, I'm so yeah, okay, like

932
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: you know, I mean she has to have a standard.

933
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: These guys I can't, like, if you're not going to

934
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: bring anything to the table, at least bring cash, I can't.

935
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: So you would a rich trash bag?

936
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: No, but they're all dumb. So you know, build her

937
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: perfect man. Yes, honestly love may not exist, but love no.

938
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: But but honestly, if we're talking about who I want

939
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: to get married to, really i'd love to love them, right,

940
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: but like if marriage is a business, yeah, so like,

941
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 5: come on, at least know how to manage your money,

942
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I would never mind let it out.

943
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: I would love him to have like a family trust,

944
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean saying every time we're talking

945
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 5: about ideal ideal?

946
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Right, I did ask you ideal?

947
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, give me some equity and a nice company,

948
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: come on maybe or something like that, you know what

949
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, nice watches.

950
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: But just like trustworthy, someone that's easy to talk to

951
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: and that's fun or funny, I don't know which one both. No,

952
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 5: but I kind of like boring people too, so like,

953
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: as long as you're funny, we could just be boring together.

954
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you're funny, you're not boring.

955
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you could be funny and boring.

956
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, funny in the house.

957
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Okay, I love that. So, gentlemen, if

958
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast and you're all of those things,

959
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: if you are Solomon Thomas and you have a Hedge fund, okay,

960
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: so we have a lot of things that we're like,

961
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: yeah for you, Diamond, Natasha.

962
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: I thought about this as Diamond was talking, and those

963
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: are a lot of traits that I too share in

964
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: my dream man, I just feel like I need someone

965
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: who can make life better than what it already is.

966
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: And it's already pretty freaking nice. And and I don't

967
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: want any stress. I don't want any issues. I don't really.

968
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: You got to bring a lot to the table to

969
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, to date and I. You have to bring

970
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: a lot to the table. And it just has to

971
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: be a better, better life than what I'm going through

972
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: right now. It should compliment your life. You shouldn't have

973
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: to feel like you are being put in their life,

974
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: right or that you're having to mold to their life.

975
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: It should compliment the life that you already live, and

976
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: it should grow it and it should you just get

977
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 2: it has to be better than what I've got going

978
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: on right now. I put the bar pretty high. Absolutely,

979
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like, yeah, trustworthy, honest, loyal, kind,

980
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: generous Solomon Thomas. You know, it's just someone who's motivated,

981
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: who's ambitious, likes dogs. Obviously, Obviously that's a big thing

982
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: to see how a guy walks your dog, and like

983
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: that's how your dog responds to the guy. Yes, that's important.

984
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: I've told Diamond this because Diamond has a weird relationship

985
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: with dogs. She wants a dog. She wants a dog,

986
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to walk the dog, and she hates

987
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: everyone else's dog.

988
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: Wait, so do you just like the idea of a dog? Okay,

989
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: I get that. I feel that. I feel that. I

990
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: mean when I a companion.

991
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I think she should get a stuffed animal, to.

992
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: Be honest, honestly, yeah, you can get one of those

993
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: like really warm stuffed animals that have like a beating

994
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: heart something like that.

995
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: She thinks she's gonna put the dog on a trackpad

996
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: and it's just going to walk that way because she

997
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: says she's not taking her dog out.

998
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: Well they do. If you get a small enough dog,

999
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: you can do peapads in the apartment, which is vile,

1000
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: but you people do that.

1001
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: No, Diamond, you know you're not going to torture your

1002
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: family with a pea pad dog. So if somebody wants

1003
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: to date you, Natasha, are you doing like dating apps?

1004
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: Are you? I'm not doing dating apps? Please, I'm not

1005
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: doing dating apps. I downloaded them for all of like

1006
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: twenty four hours before I'm like, this is not the

1007
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: this is the wild West. I not belong on here

1008
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: are you on.

1009
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: The top of the top.

1010
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: I'm still waitlisted on Riya? Okay me wait listen on Riya,

1011
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: which like now it's like it's like who is she?

1012
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 5: Right?

1013
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: Whatever? I just now it's become a point of pride

1014
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: where I'm like, now I don't even want to know.

1015
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: But then all my friends who are on Riya tell

1016
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: me that it is not what it's cracked up to be,

1017
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: what it you to be, and like there's these ghost

1018
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 2: accounts and like wannabes and and I have an ex

1019
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: on there who is a massive wanna bee, like that

1020
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: Just that tells me I don't even want to be

1021
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: on that app. If he exists on that app, I

1022
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: don't want to be on that app.

1023
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: So I've heard and I don't know, but I've heard that. Yes,

1024
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: there have been a couple of people who have found

1025
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: love on there.

1026
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1027
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: However, for the majority, at this point, it just seems

1028
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: to be a sugar daddy sugar baby website where if

1029
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: he's kind of like older successful dudes and then just

1030
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of young like Instagram models or whatever is

1031
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: going on, just that just does not interest me. So,

1032
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: but are you open to each other wise this never

1033
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: happens anymore? Are you open to people who approach you

1034
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: in public? Yes?

1035
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: I think that yeah. And my ideal, in my ideal world,

1036
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: it's going to be like a meet cute situation and

1037
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: it's like, oh hi.

1038
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Like both walking your brother's mountain dogs.

1039
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: Yes, and like oh wow, this is this is so great.

1040
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: You two have like two vacuums. That's amazing.

1041
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Perfect. So if you like Natasha and you want to

1042
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: approach her, two vacuums is a solid opening conversation. Start,

1043
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get this together.

1044
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. You're gonna be at my matchmakers.

1045
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Yes, if it happens because of this podcast,

1046
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: I would like to come to the wedding.

1047
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be amazing. I'd also like to be

1048
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: at the wedding too.

1049
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: See a girl can dream. All right, So so much

1050
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: that we've talked about your foundation name one more time.

1051
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Verma Foundation dot org dot org, Verma Foundation dot org,

1052
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Verma Foundation on Instagram. I'm on Instagram too. Oh and

1053
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: I just launched a new podcast that you were on.

1054
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you did look to drop your podcast Talking.

1055
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: With Natasha and it's on YouTube and it's on Fox Local.

1056
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Meta was one of our early guests, and it was

1057
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: a great conversation. It's just fun because you know, we

1058
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: are buttoned up on the news. We got three minutes

1059
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: to talk and then you know, we that's it. Three minutes.

1060
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: It's it's it's we move fast. They're our shows. And

1061
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: so I wanted a format where I can sit down

1062
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: and really get to know someone. You know, we get

1063
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: to go deep and I have really interesting conversations with people.

1064
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 2: So check us out on YouTube.

1065
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So we've got your foundation, We've got your podcast.

1066
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: You can catch her on Fox five at five, six.

1067
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: And ten, five six and ten pm weeknights.

1068
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: Baby fancy you're in the streets, gentlemen, mention that you

1069
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: have two vacuums. Thank you so much for joining, Thank

1070
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: you for having me.

1071
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: This is so fun.

1072
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I love to have you come back.

1073
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: And that was interesting.

1074
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I think it was fun to talk to her about

1075
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: her personal life. Who thought she would go there, but

1076
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: she did.

1077
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

1078
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Natasha Burma everybody if you want to holler

1079
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: at a babe, apparently she's single and look in and

1080
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: really mad at her ex. So that's interesting. So let's

1081
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: get to the burn book because we haven't done it

1082
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: in episodes and episodes. Yeah, I would like to burn

1083
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: you and our entire little swollen chat fan burns because

1084
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: this is week three that I've been part of it.

1085
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: You've been part of it for how long?

1086
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: I mean it was a week before you join. Okay,

1087
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: that reinstated.

1088
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So every week somebody is the leader of the

1089
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: group and you have to come up with the exercises

1090
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: and tasks. Some of them are physical and then there's

1091
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: like mental health stuff and hey, like just do this

1092
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: so that you are leading a more fulfilled life. So

1093
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm the leader this week and nobody has done anything,

1094
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: and I submit it is because there is a brown

1095
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: woman as the leader that the white males in the

1096
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: group are not respecting it.

1097
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: What say you?

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00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 4: So it's Monday right when we're recording this, Yes, so

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00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: let's let's let that enter the chat.

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00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh so we shouldn't talk about your super fucking birthday?

1101
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: So what you're say the whole beginning of this?

1102
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: Okay? I hate that you can edit. Yes, so it's Monday. Yeah,

1103
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: it's been one.

1104
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Day, right, and nobody did anything on one day, So.

1105
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: That's going to the today. Not done. We're going to

1106
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: the gym together today.

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00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: But did this happen to anyone else?

1108
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: No?

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00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: Did it?

1110
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1111
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: No it didn't, Yes didn't. Everyone just argues with each

1112
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: other in ninety nine percent of the time. Also, that

1113
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: chat moves so fast and all you have to do

1114
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: is say like one word and it goes off topic.

1115
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, A bunch of Gish gallopers.

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00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: If you will lead by the Gish galloper herself.

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00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: I do not change the topic. I stay on topic.

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00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: No, I admitted wrote a million.

1119
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: First of all, my task yesterday was going to be

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00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: so easy. I said, I feel like somebody needs to

1121
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: dance around in their apartment for forty five minutes work

1122
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: up a sweat. Who doesn't do that anyway? I do

1123
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: it all the time, all the time. Nobody apparently wanted

1124
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: to do that, and I knew they weren't going to

1125
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: send videos, so I said, okay, how about I sent

1126
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: an actual workout and then said fifteen minute walk on

1127
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: top of this outside because it was a beautiful day,

1128
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: and then fifteen minutes of stretching because these dumb boys

1129
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: do not stretch and they fucking need to. People can't

1130
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: touch their toes. It's a sad, sad scene out here.

1131
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: Nobody did it. I even submitted all mine, and then

1132
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: I said, all week, I want to know one thing

1133
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: that made you laugh, one thing that you learned, and

1134
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: one thing you're grateful for. And I even led as

1135
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: a leader, led by example, and I sent my information

1136
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: to everybody. And what did I get?

1137
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: Crickets?

1138
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was at the end of the week.

1139
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: Crickets. Why did you think that when I said all week?

1140
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh so, whichever day we learned that Andrew doesn't read

1141
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: through the.

1142
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 4: Actual challenges well because forty seven thousand texasages later and

1143
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 4: then for some reason always comes.

1144
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Back to me because you're the little ringleader and all

1145
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: of that turning the project and then tap the fuck out.

1146
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: And Josh, by the way, would never do a group

1147
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: project with that man. Oh yeah, he just lurks and

1148
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: then sends pictures of his poop. Very true for those reasons,

1149
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: I am out, and.

1150
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: I I, you know, it's Monday, We're going to work

1151
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 4: out today, and I'll send what I'm grateful for and

1152
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: something that you learned and.

1153
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Something that made you laugh. So I even was nice

1154
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: to you yesterday and I said, one of the things

1155
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for was mom and Donna's plate of food.

1156
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: So you were grateful to my mom?

1157
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1158
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was nice.

1159
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Because I could have said how she harasses animals by

1160
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: tapping on glass.

1161
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: You already had in a podcast.

1162
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Duffing that looked like cat food.

1163
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: I bet it was really it is really good.

1164
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1165
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was saying, I said, you talk talk.

1166
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: About my mother.

1167
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: I said, I was grateful for Donna. You should be

1168
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: thank you, Mama. Donna.

1169
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: Did you got chicken parm in there too?

1170
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: No?

1171
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: Maybe she give me the extra call it.

1172
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

1173
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was great, and I was very thankful for that.

1174
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: And then I realized I'm in a group of rat finks.

1175
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: And because of that, Andrew's costume for his own party,

1176
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: he needs to be a playgrat.

1177
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: I'm it's Monday. We're gonna work out this whole week.

1178
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna be very active.

1179
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: I'll see how this goes.

1180
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 3: Oh, it'll be great.

1181
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: I submit. I got Kamala Harris.

1182
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: Trust me, it's gonna be fine, because you know what's

1183
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: gonna happen when it's me next week. You know what's

1184
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 4: gonna happen. I'm gonna say, hey, do these forty five minutes.

1185
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: That's when all of a sudden, Nick and Timy are

1186
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: gonna be It's not hard enough, do something worse.

1187
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: I want to get. I'm gonna get to be in pain.

1188
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: We listen, your little friend Tommy is a Tommy is

1189
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: a per problem. Tommy, by the way, one survivor how long.

1190
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 3: Ago twenty twenty?

1191
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: Oh that that was not that long ago.

1192
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: Listen, Tommy's still a rat.

1193
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 3: And I gave him the substance.

1194
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, what do you mean you gave

1195
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: him the substance.

1196
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: There's these drinks which they should sponsor you called zebiotics.

1197
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: They should sponsor you.

1198
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are.

1199
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: They're these little glass vials and you drink them before

1200
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 4: you drink or you know you're going to go out.

1201
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how.

1202
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: My friend Casey, who gets terrible hangovers, put me onto these.

1203
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: His doctor said, listen, it's not medication. So like, I'm

1204
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: not going to prescribe you this. You still have to

1205
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: pay and buy these things. But it helps with hangovers

1206
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: a lot. Oh, they are little miracles in a vial.

1207
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: So I call them the substance because you have to

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00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 4: respect the balance of your.

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00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Interesting not drunk and drunk zelp Okay, Well, this is

1210
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: why I will say Tommy is a rat.

1211
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1212
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: He sends photos of him doing alleged workouts that you

1213
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: should be laying down doing and he's clearly standing up.

1214
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: This is a group of weasels. No cure's the only

1215
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: one following through this shit.

1216
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: Insane about this, and I'm just gonna put this out

1217
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: there on blast. What's insane is I could be like,

1218
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: I did it, where's the photoproof stand up video? Meanwhile

1219
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: Tommy does it and then immediately heart.

1220
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: Exit swag dog, not your the best. I'm the one

1221
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: that called him out on it.

1222
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, it's Nick and Tommy who support each other,

1223
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 4: and then when it comes to anybody else, it's, oh.

1224
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Sorry, there's a bit of a bromance happening.

1225
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: And then there's Josh.

1226
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: He does nothing but every now and then'll just chimes

1227
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: in with sub.

1228
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: You know, respect to that.

1229
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: This is trash, this stupid ass swoll fam. Anyway, it's

1230
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: getting us.

1231
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: To work out.

1232
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: It is.

1233
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 3: I worked out so much last week.

1234
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: I worked out so much.

1235
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: Just yesterday I did six fifteen workouts.

1236
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I have to admit I have lost zero pounds. Oh,

1237
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: nothing is happening. I do feel stronger and have more energy.

1238
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: But something is just not letting me be my best self.

1239
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1240
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: That's blocking it.

1241
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: My bad food.

1242
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I was excited to start work again, and

1243
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: I've never said that in my life. Just so this

1244
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: way I could go back to drinking my protein shakes

1245
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: in the morning and going back to like cooking my dinner,

1246
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 4: like going.

1247
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: Back to a routine because you stayed here.

1248
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm not on a routine. Okay, it's like

1249
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: I vacation from my routine. You know, even if it's

1250
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: a staycation, I still don't have to do everything, like

1251
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 4: I have a.

1252
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: Stupid that's so dumb. Yes, I have a toothbrush that

1253
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: you count each zone that you're in.

1254
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1255
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: It takes me like two and a half minutes to

1256
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 4: brush my teeth every night. That's good, it is great.

1257
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: But when I'm on vacation, I don't do it. I

1258
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: just brush my teeth normal And I'm like, say, yes,

1259
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: are you insane?

1260
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: What do you mean you just vacation from like taking

1261
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: care of your teeth.

1262
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm still taking care of them. I just don't do

1263
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: the full get up of like, oh, here we go.

1264
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're back, Andrew.

1265
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: Thanks. No, I love a routine.

1266
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here to bring back your routine.

1267
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1268
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so people want to follow along on your journey

1269
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: on Instagram where they find you Andrew Bug. There's no

1270
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: journey posted, no, but that's just where he is. And

1271
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: he finally he's still over ten thousand, which is exciting

1272
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: because now he gets.

1273
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: To be what does that make you, like a influencer.

1274
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Okay, he's an influencer.

1275
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: And influence her swipe up go to lincod Bio my

1276
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: parents when we were in the city. Sorry, I'm also

1277
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: making this way too long.

1278
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: Galloping, No, that's not what a Gish gallop is.

1279
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: It's an it's changing topic a lot you're not staying

1280
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: on top of anyway.

1281
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: Also, Jackie listens now hijack Jackie. She wants to be

1282
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: a guest on your podcast.

1283
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: I would love to have her.

1284
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 3: Oh wow. She's like, I'm gonna text Gandhi and see

1285
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: if i could be a guest.

1286
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh.

1287
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: So she started laying the foundation already. Yeah, yeah, Jackie,

1288
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: come on down.

1289
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1290
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 4: So my parents we were in the city. We were

1291
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 4: passing all these places with huge lines outside of them.

1292
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: Coincidentally saw Nick outside of one randomly. When do you

1293
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: ever see someone in New York and see like your bestie? Anyway,

1294
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: So we passed all these restaurants and they're like, why

1295
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 4: do people go to these like basic ass pasta places now?

1296
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's because of influencers.

1297
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1298
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: The best pass that you can find is in the

1299
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: Lower east Side.

1300
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: They serve delicious reggae, tony and great now gronies.

1301
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: It's the worst book is the best pasta you'll have?

1302
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: Yes? The worst.

1303
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: The voices are terrible, the advice is terrible, the expert

1304
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: level is terrible. It's just everything is trash anymore, and

1305
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: you can pay people to say whatever you want them

1306
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: to say. Ye, scar zones, and it's just it's nonsense.

1307
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: Don't listen to anybody, Listen to yourselves, listen to experts. Yeah,

1308
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: we'll leave you with that, as we say, go follow

1309
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: the influencer. Andrew pug Leacy Poli Say Andrew Pug Andrew

1310
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Pug on Instagram, I am at Baby Hot Sauce Like, Follow,

1311
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: subscribe until next time we say bye bye