WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Icebergs Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, it's me Josh and for this week's s

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<v Speaker 1>Y s K Selects. It's how Icebergs work. It's a good,

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<v Speaker 1>straight ahead stuff you should know based on a grab

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<v Speaker 1>store article, so you know it's quality that anyway, kickback, enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>like in the shapes of stars and moons and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that might actually just be lucky charms I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, and enjoy this episode. Welcome to Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you Should Know, a production of Five Heart Radios How

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W Chuck Bryant and that makes this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. How's it killing everybody? It's a joy stage? Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, how so? Oh? I don't know. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a joys day. Don't you think I'm very glad?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's been a joyous day? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? You haven't had a computer so you don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my laptop has been apparently too full of

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<v Speaker 1>data to operate whatever that means. Yeah, he's stuffed it

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<v Speaker 1>up with two gigs of shady stuff. It's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called research, I guess. So every single bit of

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<v Speaker 1>that it was hard facts, buddy. Yeah. And songs. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>those videos is there? Well, there you go. Videos tend

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<v Speaker 1>to stop stuff up by especially high res ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably what it was. I would imagine. So on

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<v Speaker 1>your work computer? No less, Well what am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Carry on two computers? Why where are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this? No? I don't know you started it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear the intro. Chuck. Yes, I'm quite sure that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll think I'm kind of stupid for mentioning probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous ship ever to be sunk by an iceberg,

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<v Speaker 1>but humor me. Of course. We all know the wreck

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<v Speaker 1>of the William Carson, which in seven went down off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Labrador. Uh. It had a number of

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<v Speaker 1>cars on board, but more importantly a hundred and nine souls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what they call you when you're ap to see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred nine souls lost. I never really have

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<v Speaker 1>heard that or paid attention. Really, I thought they would

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<v Speaker 1>say lives lost. They say souls they say souls a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they used to old time? You wise, before Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>in the separation of church and state. I guess right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess now they call them lives before they were souls.

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<v Speaker 1>All souls lost. That's sad. Yeah, it makes it even sadder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the Saints crying right under certain circumstances. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the luckily a hundred and nine souls were not lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero souls were lost on the William Carson. As everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>The cars went down though, which is a tragedy for

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance companies covering those cars. But as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>like every school child knows the story of the William Carson.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that there were other ships that have

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<v Speaker 1>hit icebergs? I was not aware of any. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lady of the Lake Okay, yeah, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that. One went down in the Grand Banks. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make a movie about that. Uh no, no, you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of ex caliber um. The Lady of the Lake went

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<v Speaker 1>down on the Grand Banks on its way to Quebec

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<v Speaker 1>with seventy people on board. Seventy souls. Seventy souls, um.

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<v Speaker 1>The s s hush should toft hushed. Toft ok yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um off the coast of Greenland in ninety nine on

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<v Speaker 1>her maiden voyage. Can you believe this? That makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so much worse than it's a maiden voyage? People dead

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<v Speaker 1>all because of icebergs. I mean there's been other ships

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<v Speaker 1>that have hit icebergs, but um, all because a chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of floating ice took out an entire ship. Souls and

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<v Speaker 1>souls and souls were lost. Yeah. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a young fan named Shelley Stein right now that it

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<v Speaker 1>is about to throw her iPod through and there is

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<v Speaker 1>that the person who always wants to hear about that,

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<v Speaker 1>um that other ships thinking, Yeah, she's been begging for

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<v Speaker 1>like two years leading out of the anniversary, that's right. Um. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>what's crazy is that all of these ships were lost.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, between eighteen eighty two and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen nine, fourteen passenger liners went down in a place

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<v Speaker 1>called Iceberg Galley. But it was only the last twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years that we started tracking icebergs. What's even more amazing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we have learned a tremendous amount in those

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years, and we're still learning and we will

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<v Speaker 1>dispense with the learning forth with. That's right, this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this a grapstor? Yeah? Boy, he puts together a

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<v Speaker 1>nice article, didn't he. He He does. He knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a professional. I never feel uh, I never feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad about about his You feel bad about some of them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ones I write, Like the ones you right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're very adventurous. They were for the Adventure Channel right

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, So chuck um. I think people they're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there sitting at home thinking right now, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about icebergs and it's just a chunk of floating ice.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're absolutely right, it is just a chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>floating ice, not just a chunk. There's so much more

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<v Speaker 1>to us um for example, iceberg saltwater? Nope, fresh water yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Why well, uh, I learned virtually everything I've ever known

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<v Speaker 1>about icebergs within the past. By the way, uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is ice um, but it is not sea ice or

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<v Speaker 1>pack ice. Like when you see dead least catch in

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<v Speaker 1>their motoring through that that sea ice. Those those aren't

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<v Speaker 1>little chunks of iceberg. That's saltwater, right, that's frozen seawater.

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<v Speaker 1>Frozen seawater and iceberg was um is a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>a glacier that has busted off or calved, calved, calved

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<v Speaker 1>like having a calf, like giving birth to a cat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's calfing, calving, calving, having Yeah, man, I had it

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<v Speaker 1>until you threw me off. Well saying cal I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be calving, calving, caving away from a glacier.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times we just said calving and a glacier. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about glaciers for a second. Glaciers are packed

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<v Speaker 1>snow basically, well yeah, but I mean they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting than that. Well, yeah, that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>base route though right in certain latitudes, Um, it never

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<v Speaker 1>gets warm enough for snow to fully melt all the

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<v Speaker 1>way in the summertime. So what you have is an

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<v Speaker 1>accumulation of that snow that builds up over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again over the centuries, over the eons, as

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<v Speaker 1>old as ten thousand years old. Sometimes yeah, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a glacier. But glaciers are also additionally interesting in that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they become so heavy that they over this freezing thaw

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<v Speaker 1>cycle and um, the accumulation of layers that they all

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<v Speaker 1>of the air bubbles are pressed out of them. So

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<v Speaker 1>glaciers are blue, the color of frozen water with no

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<v Speaker 1>air in um. And they also move under the force

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<v Speaker 1>of their own weight. They moved downward, downhill towards sea level,

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<v Speaker 1>because sea levels as downhill as it gets right until

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the sea, that's right. And um. So because

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<v Speaker 1>of this, they are this ultra dense form of ice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it slips down, floats out into the sea. Tidal

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<v Speaker 1>motions eventually will cause little cracks and fissures and then

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of the glacier will break off and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>there's ice. That's an iceberg. It's a freshwater piece of

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<v Speaker 1>a glacier. Freshwater glacier chunks, right, and it's freshwater because

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<v Speaker 1>it's made of snow, not seawater. Um. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>said that it floats out into the sea. That's called

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<v Speaker 1>an ice shelf. Um. And up north and northern latitudes, um.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest ice shelves are found on the western coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Greenland Lizard arc or northern icebergs that are formed

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<v Speaker 1>up there off of those glaciers down south in Antarctica

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<v Speaker 1>where there are penguins. But it's not the only place

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<v Speaker 1>there's penguins. I want to make sure everybody knows, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and no polar bears. No, only a fool would say that. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the the pretty much the continent of Antarctica is ringed

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<v Speaker 1>with ice shelves and there's a lot of open sea,

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<v Speaker 1>so the icebergs can get really big. Yeah, they can

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<v Speaker 1>keep extending extending, extending, But then like you said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they break off and then you have an iceberg. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you wanna talk about ice? Yeah? This is fascinating. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I went over this again and again and again until

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<v Speaker 1>I finally got it, and I feel like I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so easy though I was making a lot

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<v Speaker 1>oft of it. Yeah. Uh, ice, as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>is the solid phase of water. You have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>liquid solid gas, iis the solid phase thirty two degrees

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<v Speaker 1>fahrenheit for fresh water or zero celsius. Salt water is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need to be a little bit colder because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there are basically salt molecules getting in the way of

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<v Speaker 1>the ice forming. Well, they they they move faster I

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<v Speaker 1>believe than water molecules. It takes a lower temperature to

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<v Speaker 1>slow them down. And also it's a greater density if

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking saltwater, right, which is important, very important. But

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<v Speaker 1>ice also is the is peculiar, meaning unique, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only solid phase of any substance. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that is less dense than the liquid phase. So ice

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<v Speaker 1>is less dense the water, and then seawater is denser

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<v Speaker 1>than fresh water. So well, And it's easy to remember

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<v Speaker 1>that ice is less dense because when you put a

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<v Speaker 1>little ice cube in your little chardonnay this summer, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a redneck, it'll float. Yeah, because there's little uh,

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<v Speaker 1>ice forms in a crystalline shape, So those that leaves

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<v Speaker 1>area for gaps, I guess, And so what is the

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<v Speaker 1>air in there? Uh? Yeah, I'm sure there's just less dense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the it's just it's less dense. Basically, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take water and freeze it, you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as spreading out, so it gets bigger, has it

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<v Speaker 1>has a larger volume, but it'll weigh the same as

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<v Speaker 1>that lesser amount of water. Right, And when you put something,

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<v Speaker 1>say ice, in water, it's buoyant, and that the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of water displaces has to equal the weight of the

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<v Speaker 1>ice that's displacing it. But since there's more ice than

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<v Speaker 1>an equal weight of water, there's some leftover that floats

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what we call the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>And when do you get confused, Yes, the tip of

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<v Speaker 1>the iceberg, that is the part that sticks out, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's about, depending on the iceberg, about one six to

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<v Speaker 1>one ninth. And I'm sure everyone's seen those awesome pictures

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<v Speaker 1>on the interwebs of you know, the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>water and under the water of the iceberg. It's pretty cool, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen those. I have. It's very nice. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason there's vary variation between how much iceberg is showing

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<v Speaker 1>it is because of the variation in the concentration of

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<v Speaker 1>salt in seawater, any particular part of seawater. And and um. Also, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some icebergs are denser than others, as Morrissey said, just

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<v Speaker 1>like people. Yeah, exactly. Uh. That you mentioned earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>glacial ice is blue. Um. That is true. Um during

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<v Speaker 1>different melting and freezing cycles, though, they will turn white

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<v Speaker 1>because the air gets trapped in there. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes these really old icebergs that have formed at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of these thick Antarctic ice shelves like that have

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<v Speaker 1>been around for thousands of years might actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>greenish hue because it's just you know, soaked up organic

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<v Speaker 1>matter under there over the years, right and then so

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a dirty yellow brown. But icebergs

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<v Speaker 1>have the tendency to roll over without warning, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one reason why you wouldn't want to camp on an iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're dangerous to be around. They are. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually there was one that floated down to New Zealand

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<v Speaker 1>and some helicopter charters were like selling flights to go

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<v Speaker 1>check them out. One of them landed on the iceberg

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<v Speaker 1>and they realized pretty quickly they shouldn't do that anymore. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But did they like getting short? Did it? No? They

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<v Speaker 1>made it out okay. But when they got back and

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<v Speaker 1>told people, I'm sure some scientists like, wait, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you just do? Right? Don't ever do that again? Tc um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the iceberg will roll over. And so you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the green part up that's with the light reflecting up

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<v Speaker 1>through the blue part. Then you get this brilliant emerald

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<v Speaker 1>green and that's some old ice right there, Bubby, Bobby, Yes, Bobby,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never said that before. The life cycle of an

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<v Speaker 1>iceberg is pretty interesting too. We mentioned they can be

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<v Speaker 1>as old as ten thousand years before they ever reached

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, and um, this is like centuries of compression.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why it's so so dense, that's why it's blue.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once it calves off though and and from

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<v Speaker 1>the glacier, you've got about three to six years on

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<v Speaker 1>average if it's like say, it's up in the Iceberg

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<v Speaker 1>galley and never strays below Parallel, which is apparently where

0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the water starts to get a lot warmer. Four Parallel

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<v Speaker 1>goes for Americans through like the tip of Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 1>the upper Peninsula of Michigan. People below that are like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still pretty cold, yeah, I imagine. Um. So ones

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<v Speaker 1>that stay up there and never come back down can

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<v Speaker 1>float around for like fifty years and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>melt away slowly and quietly. Right. Ones that make it

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<v Speaker 1>further south, like one made it to Bermuda once, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure was quite a surprise. Um, those go away

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<v Speaker 1>fairly quickly. Uh yeah, And I enjoyed this. Um. One

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.600
<v Speaker 1>account of this expedition, Um, what's the guy's name? Dr

0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Gregory Stone witnessed and wrote about in his book Ice Island, um,

0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.760
<v Speaker 1>which I believe the largest ones are called ice Island sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Um. His quote is in this iceberg basically

0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>became destabilized, and it sounds like it exploded, yes, like

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of his face. Yeah. Well he said

0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that there was an ice debris field across two miles. Yeah,

0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and he said it was like shards of crystal shattering. Right.

0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.600
<v Speaker 1>But if you think about it, that's what happens when

0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you put in ice cuban water. Yeah. You hear that noise, right,

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.560
<v Speaker 1>It's called thermal shock. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And it's

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 1>also because ice is less dense than water. As it's liquefying,

0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it shrinks because think about it's contracting and it's pulling

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<v Speaker 1>apart the outer warmer layer from the inner colder layer,

0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and this cracks form in the ice cube essentially explodes.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like that's the same thing that happened. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you pour that that twelve year old Scotch

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<v Speaker 1>on top of your single cube of ice, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into that, I don't know if you should be doing that.

0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.240
<v Speaker 1>But okay, I'm not a neat guy. I like my

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<v Speaker 1>I like it a little cold, and and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>so hardcore with the single malt, so two remove that

0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.520
<v Speaker 1>bite just a bit is good for me. You don't,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't like take it neat through your nose

0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and as that the way to do it. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>way you drink it with ice through your mouth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Scotch pure scoff at me, but scoff away

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Just do what you like exactly. Um No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very supportive. I meant you as like people in general. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that wasn't supportive. Um let's talk about some factoids,

0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and this this is to me. The fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>show is that there are actually six official classifications for

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<v Speaker 1>their size, and the first two it sounds like they

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<v Speaker 1>were having a lot to drink when they were had

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<v Speaker 1>the naming party and sobered up, sobered up a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because the smallest one's about the size of a car,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little smaller called growlers. And then the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe about the size of your house, is called a

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<v Speaker 1>burgie bit. I put the emphasoe on a bit like

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<v Speaker 1>a burgie bit, a burgie bit. Either way, it's pretty cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very cute. And then they got I guess

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<v Speaker 1>sobered up or got bored or ran out of whiskey,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they said, all right, then the next ones

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<v Speaker 1>are small, medium, large, and very large, which just really

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<v Speaker 1>boring compared to Burgie bit it is, but the very

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<v Speaker 1>large ones are kind of interesting in that they just

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<v Speaker 1>keep going and going. The largest one ever record is

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<v Speaker 1>the B fifteen iceberg. Yeah, broke off of the Ross

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.600
<v Speaker 1>ice shelf down in Antarctica. Apparently it was about the

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<v Speaker 1>size of Jamaica. Yeah. I think it's it's broken apart

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<v Speaker 1>into smaller piece of scents, but I think the original

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<v Speaker 1>um area was about sixty square miles. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big chunk of ice. Yeah. And in order to be

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the per limit, Like it can just

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<v Speaker 1>be as big as they're gonna get. There's no like

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<v Speaker 1>cap or anything like that. To call it super extra large. Um.

0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.520
<v Speaker 1>But very large you have to be about twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>stories tall and a little longer than two football field

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy if to be classified is very large. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's big man. If you think about that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's huge. Um. I'm sorry, it's very large or it's

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<v Speaker 1>huge huge. Um. The other two classifications that icebergs can

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<v Speaker 1>fall in are equally boring as the last four size names.

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.240
<v Speaker 1>They really could have done better than this if you

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<v Speaker 1>ask me. But they're the two shape classifications are tabular

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and non tabular. And tabular is basically just like a well,

0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it looks like a table, like a or a tab tablet,

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.639
<v Speaker 1>writing tablet that's back, and it's like tall with steep

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<v Speaker 1>sides and the flat tops like a floating plateau. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and those tend to come off of the ice sheets

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<v Speaker 1>down in the act Antarctic, I believe. Yeah, those are UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have to have a width five times

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<v Speaker 1>greater than their height to be tabular, and then non

0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:11.720
<v Speaker 1>tabular have I think five different classifications. You got blocky,

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.600
<v Speaker 1>flat top steep signs. They sound like Dick Tracy characters.

0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.640
<v Speaker 1>They do wedged um flat with a steep surface on

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<v Speaker 1>one side and a gradual slope on another. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the high right haircut. Yeah, the gumby the gumby

0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the dome which is round and smooth pinnacle, which means

0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it has at least one big tall spiral sticking up,

0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and then the ones that um deteriorate to where they

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<v Speaker 1>form a big canyon and it looks like two different icebergs,

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.879
<v Speaker 1>but it's really connected. Underneath those are dry docks, so

0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that means they have two tips sticking out, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>connected underwater. It's like mind blowing. It's pretty it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty neat at the very least. So, Um, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got northern icebergs, southern icebergs, um, and there's plenty of

0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>icebergs like elsewhere, but for the most part, in northern icebergs,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, form off the western coast of Greenland

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 1>because Greenland apparently I read this that Greenland and Antarctica

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>are the only place where, um, there's ice sheets, glacial

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.920
<v Speaker 1>glacial true glacial sheets, glacial sheets. Boy, that's a tough one,

0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that was. It surprised me too. I wasn't expecting that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And in Greenland there's about twenty glaciers that cav the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the icebergs. Yeah, that was I thought pretty cool.

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cool too. Um, roughly forty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>medium too large uh calv from Greenland glaciers each year,

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<v Speaker 1>is that right? And they are about ten percent as

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<v Speaker 1>strong as concrete, which I thought sounded not super strong,

0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 1>but apparently that's like way harder than like your freezer ice.

0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like this ice is different than the ice

0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you put in your Scotch, right, which is why when

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 1>icebergs run into one another, it tends to break it

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<v Speaker 1>up into smaller icebergs. They're very much subject to um

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 1>wave motion, uh storms, other icebergs land when they run

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 1>into things, like they break up, and it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that has a big deletrious effect on their lifespan.

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's part of the it's part of the iceberg

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>life cycle. We're still going with deletrius. Okay, good, um.

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<v Speaker 1>They are pretty slow, but um, to give you an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fast moving iceberg goes about two point two

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour and that's holland, Oh, I'm glad you

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.919
<v Speaker 1>bring this up because that raises a very important point.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we see the tip of the iceberg, and because

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<v Speaker 1>we're so um anthropocentric um, we assume that when drives icebergs,

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you would be dead wrong. And assuming that since most

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg is underwater, it's currents that drive icebergs

0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah, um. And so that's how icebergs can

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.879
<v Speaker 1>be trapped, like in the Antarctic, because they're trapped in

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that current or up north in the Labrador current, they

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of stay trapped up there. Um. But it also

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>makes them subject to wave motion currents from other far,

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>far off storms, and I guess getting hung up on

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>things underwater. Yes as well. It's another good point is um,

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.880
<v Speaker 1>they apparently strike the bottom of land a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can like wreck the sea floor, can't they.

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.399
<v Speaker 1>But if you think about it, like there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>parts of North America where glacial movement carved geological features

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<v Speaker 1>out of the land, the icebergs do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're dragged along by the current. And say, once

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand feet tall underwater and it hits a patch

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of sea that's less than a thousand feet it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>strike New York City and fast. Go to Central Park

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the rocks there. Oh yeah, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>got all those little grooves cut out. That's ice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>ice ice baby. Um No, that was not nice. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The ecology this was sort of surprising to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I just figured they're just floating along. Maybe they melt

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, what's the big whoop? But I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really consider the fact that it's melting this glacial fresh water,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it at times, depending on the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg, all around in the sea water. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's got to have some sort of ecological effect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't find anything anywhere that said, like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of life that's adapted to living in fresh

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<v Speaker 1>water even though it's home is sea water, and they

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<v Speaker 1>live around icebergs. I couldn't find anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently it has little effect on these animals because icebergs

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>are basically like floating time released nutrient capsules. Yeah, it's

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 1>like teeming with life around it, so they must love it,

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>these little krill and plankton. It's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>small stuff generally. Well, what there's there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>definite um. What's that chain called food chain? Yeah, that

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>iceberg support um. They bring a lot of iron rich

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>nutrients from the land as a gift to the sea,

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>and as they melt, they slowly release this stuff. This

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>supports um algae. Right, there's a lot of algae that

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>that grows on their krill. These little tiny shrimp like

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>things eat the algae um, and then all these other

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>animals eat the krill, and then the birds prey on

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the other fish that are eating the krill. So this

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>whole food chain develops around this iceberg. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 1>But even even something that I think they've only recently

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>begun to figure out is that icebergs are there is

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of climate change. Like everybody's worried about all

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the icebergs melting in the sea levels rising, and for

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 1>good reason. But they're also figuring out that they also

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<v Speaker 1>aid in carbon sequestration in the ocean. That makes sense.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>So this algae and all this stuff is they're eating

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>this iron. There's a transfer of carbon from the land

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to these Uh that this life that eventually will die

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>fall down into the bottom of the sea and keep

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the carbon trapped with it. So algae that wouldn't be there, um,

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 1>is soaking up carbon and then being eaten and passed

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>along in this undersea food chain. And they found that, um,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the carbon absorption around in iceberg is twice what it

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>is elsewhere because this algae wouldn't be there if it

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>weren't for the iceberg. So there it's soaking up the

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:46.199
<v Speaker 1>CEO too. That's crazy. They also take it away what

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.159
<v Speaker 1>icebergs giveth uh and not just boats and chips like

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the Titanic. There I said it okay, Um, they can actually,

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, they can clog up shipping lanes. They

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<v Speaker 1>can in the case of B fifteen, I think it

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>actually um had a pretty uh deleterious effect on Emperor Penguins. Yeah,

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in March of the March of the Penguins and they

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know what happens in that sad movie. I

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>guess what. They have to walk around it. Yeah, and

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a they really have a tight schedule. When they

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>hit an iceberg that's you know, taller than the penguins

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>don't fly, remember, and it is really wide. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to go around it. But they should learn to fly. Yeah,

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I would just solve a lot of problems. Um. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can have negative effects on the little penguins a

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>cute little penguins, and um it can rake the c

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<v Speaker 1>floor and just destroy it basically over the course of

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 1>many years. No good, no another cool thing. And this

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I couldn't find if they're actually moving

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>on this, but the United States Military um called up

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the Rand Corporation said, hey, yeah, boy, these things are

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<v Speaker 1>huge chunks of awesome drinking water, totally safe to drink

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's from the water. Boy. Yeah, really I never

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>saw that all the way through um it uh. They

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>they called the Rain Corporation said Hey, can we study

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>these things? And how viable is it too? I know

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it sounds crazy, but how viable is it to get

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>one of these icebergs over here and provide fresh drinking

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<v Speaker 1>water for people who need it? And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the most ridiculous idea in the world. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Their study said that a system allowing a ten percent

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<v Speaker 1>yield could provide water for five hundred million people at

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<v Speaker 1>a cost of eight dollars per one tho cubic meters,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not too bad. I mean, it's way more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive than it should be, I think, than than we

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<v Speaker 1>pay for water now. But our water is artificially cheap. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so as water becomes more expensive, if there's any icebergs left,

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<v Speaker 1>we may want to go do that. And they say,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they just nudge it through the water closer

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<v Speaker 1>and closer. Um. And this is where it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little hinky. It says in the article using massive insulating

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<v Speaker 1>sheets to slow the melting. I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, but oh it looks like, um my lar,

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<v Speaker 1>like you used to reflect the sun on your car.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what they would use. It's all it'll take, you know,

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>like those um, sun blankets or whatever, just something to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect the sun sunlight radiation. Well, it's also moving into

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<v Speaker 1>warmer water that's not gonna melt it from below, or

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it'll melt it from below for sure, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you protect what you can. I guess, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if you're harvesting icebergs, you're right, they're not the

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<v Speaker 1>They're not the only ones looking at this. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>ran across an M I T proposal of building a

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline from Alaska, where there's plenty of glaciers that in

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the western US makes sense, but the author concluded it's

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<v Speaker 1>like four and eighty seven billion dollars to build the

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>pipeline keep it going, and that just wouldn't be worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh in canals to another Other groups study that and

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<v Speaker 1>suggested a canal well and in the United States have

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<v Speaker 1>exactly hurting for water. It would be nice that they

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<v Speaker 1>did some of these studies and like pushed it to

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<v Speaker 1>where they don't have fresh water right now at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's been a little money for them,

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like life straws O great, Um well, I guess we

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>already went over. Well, Iceberg Galley is actually a little

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>more interesting. They started studying it. They formed the International

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Patrol. Uh way later than they should have, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but they probably didn't have the equipment they needed back

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in the day to do what they do now. Um,

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the Coastguard US Coastguard administers it and they worn ships.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>They kind of run it through their little program and say,

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<v Speaker 1>we think this is where it's headed. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>big it is. Uh, if you're in this area, you

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>might want to watch out for this, for this guy

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>floating your way. Well, they basically say, like there's ice

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>up here, don't go above this these coordinates. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Limit of All Known ice. Wow. And they the

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Guard also does some other stuff for the I

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<v Speaker 1>should say the Ice Patrol. Um. They do other things like, um,

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>bomb icebergs. Did you find out more about that? No?

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up on YouTube because I was like,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>surely somebody's video everybody dropping obamba an iceberg. I couldn't

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>find anything. Plenty of calving stuff. Um. And they also

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>spray paint them with very bright paint, which it seems

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>wrong to me, just so you can see him. Yeah. Yeah,

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that's like tagging, uh, like a new car or something. Yeah. Um,

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful new car made by nature. That wasn't good

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>analogy or putting like um radio transmitters on them. It

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>just makes sense. But then when they start to break up,

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, there's a little chunk that has the

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>radio transmitter three ft big. Yeah, uh so I got

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 1>nothing else. I don't either, I've got something else, all right?

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>What you got? So it became um, I became interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the idea of this article mentions a nautical mile. Sure,

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we like, why why is there a nautical mile in

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a mile? And I found out why. So a nautical

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<v Speaker 1>mile is um one point one five o eight miles,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why is because a nautical mile, when

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<v Speaker 1>going around the equator, takes into account the curvature of

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. A regular mile UM or called a statute

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>mile is what it's called, goes from one point on

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<v Speaker 1>the map to another through a straight line, which means

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's not taking into account the curvature of the earth,

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>which means that the nautical mile more accurate, is more

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<v Speaker 1>accurate and thus a little longer than the regular mile

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<v Speaker 1>interesting from minute to minute along a degree, So a

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>mile is really not a mile. So if you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>on land. No, it's not because it's a it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like if you take the earth cut in half

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<v Speaker 1>of the equator and turn it over. You've got the

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<v Speaker 1>two halves and you're looking in the molten center, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and you divide it into three in sixty degrees, divide

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>those degrees in two minutes, and the measure a minute

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to a minute. If you do a straight line, it's

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>not as accurate. If you do the curve line, it

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>will be accurate. And a kilometer is just way out there.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen, the French Academy of Sciences said, okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to designate a kilometers the amount the length the

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>distance from the North Pole to the equator through Paris,

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>divided by ten thousand. Pretty clever. So there you have it, UM,

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>nautical miles. I love it, Thanks man, I really uh

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>went all out on this one, you asked me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so too. Kudos, sir um. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>fine fine article by A Grabanowski. Um, And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>search bar, how stuff works which means it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>listener mail. Josh, I'm gonna call this one, um. Good

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>email from a Chicago, Chicago guy. That's a terrible Just yesterday, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I was finished reading a book Robin Dunbar wrote called Grooming,

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<v Speaker 1>Gossip and the Evolution of Language. Her argument is that

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<v Speaker 1>language evolved out of a need to keep up social

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>relationships with group members put in its most basic form.

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Over time, our brains evolved to be larger, which made

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<v Speaker 1>our average group size increase. At the same time, Once

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<v Speaker 1>our group size became large enough, today our average group

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>size is about one. We didn't have enough time in

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<v Speaker 1>the day to groom one on one with that many

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<v Speaker 1>group members to keep up our social bonds with them,

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<v Speaker 1>So we evolved language so we could use language as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to verbally groom with more members at a

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<v Speaker 1>time to keep the group strong. That's interesting. It was

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding that our brains have actually decreased in size,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>so we last like twenty years really because of group

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>group size, because it's increased and we have to rely

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>less on our like instincts and run from thunder and

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I smell a cage match. Um. Another

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting experiment I read about is this to Scientists were

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<v Speaker 1>studying vervet monkeys in their natural habitat. They started recording

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of the vervets um and make notes about

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing when they made the noise. After

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<v Speaker 1>examining a large sample of noises, they found a correlation

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<v Speaker 1>between the sound they made and what was happening when

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they made it. I believe the noises were difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>distinguish by the naked human ear, but the pattern was

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<v Speaker 1>obvious when they compared large numbers of them together. The

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<v Speaker 1>vervets made a different noise for when an air predator

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<v Speaker 1>was spotted, when a ground predator was spotted, when approaching

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<v Speaker 1>a dominant male, etcetera. It's not quite language where it

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<v Speaker 1>like syntax, but it's still more advanced than I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were. Um, and that's pretty much it. Hope it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't too dense, but if it was, that has revenge

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<v Speaker 1>for the Sun podcast as a listener right there. That's right,

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