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Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Move the Sticks Podcast. We are at

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Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium. I got my partner Bucky Brooks here. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: I can't see you. I know you're there. We're in

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's kind of like. It's just like

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Speaker 1: I can't see you, but I'm I'm glad to be

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Speaker 1: with you here. There's what we're gonna do on the

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Speaker 1: podcast today. We're gonna preview the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: What we're expecting at them, mind, go through the positions,

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Speaker 1: and then at the end of that discussion, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: roll an interview we did. We've been kind of focusing

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Speaker 1: school basketball coach interview we did which is was quite fascinating.

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Speaker 1: as a leader teammate, those things very invaluable information. One

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Speaker 1: All right, let's just start right there with with Myles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: I have him as my number one player. I know

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Speaker 1: are gonna put on the show. Dorry Jackson for sure

427
00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 1: is going to put on the show. You talked about

428
00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 1: the world as athlete, a guy who was a Patchwell

429
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: long jump champion. He's going to kind of pop off

430
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 1: the board when we see him do these closing You know,

431
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,760
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna listen like five ten haven't been

432
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,879
Speaker 1: around him. Uh, he's a tough guy. I think the

433
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 1: big thing that you have to have in the conversation

434
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Dorry Jackson, how do you

435
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,159
Speaker 1: view him as a cornerback? Do you view him as

436
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,600
Speaker 1: a lockdown corner? Is he a nickel guy? How does

437
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 1: he play? And with that being said, where does his

438
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,360
Speaker 1: return skills kind of put him? Does that put him

439
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 1: over top? Is he a first round returner that can

440
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,399
Speaker 1: offer you some building as a cornerback or do you

441
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 1: really view him as a cornerback? Alright? Couple more here.

442
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau from u c l A who in the

443
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,959
Speaker 1: spring scout urrel through. They're just under six ft two

444
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 1: hundred five pounds, ran four three nine so he was

445
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 1: the East West East West. He was awesome. Yea, So

446
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,679
Speaker 1: to me, I think I've got him in my top fifty.

447
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 1: It's not insane to see him go in the first round.

448
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: If not in the first round, he's gonna go really

449
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 1: early in the second. I mean, there's so many corners

450
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 1: that are kind of a cluster together. Depends on what

451
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 1: you're looking for, what kind of style, kind of flavor

452
00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 1: ice creaming like? All right. The other one was that

453
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis from Michigan a little bit great nickel, great

454
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 1: nickel corner, could play in the slot, has that ability

455
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 1: to kind of handle the two way go like his

456
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 1: athleticism and his ball scare. All right, these guys I

457
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: need to update my top fifth. I don't know if

458
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 1: I have enough time to do it, but Shadobe Wuzier

459
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: from Colorado belongs in my top fifty. He's one I

460
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 1: got to meet with the last week. One of the

461
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 1: more impressive kids you'll ever talk to. You can play nickel,

462
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,200
Speaker 1: can play safety, can play corner. He's smart. Uh, he's

463
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,120
Speaker 1: got a little edge to him. I told him. He goes,

464
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: what's the knockcom man? But people maybe question your deep speed.

465
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 1: It bothered him a little bit. He goes, what do

466
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna run? I said, I wrote you

467
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 1: down at four or five five. I got he's gonna

468
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 1: run a little bit faster than that, so it'll be fun.

469
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 1: Really good player I like his to Nacy. I like

470
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 1: the way he plays in capis on the You've got

471
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: a big corner Rustle Douglas from West Virginia six to

472
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 1: two or three pounds. He if he can just get

473
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: under four six it would be phenomenal um and it's

474
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: a big dude nine he does that. You're looking for

475
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: these big matchup players. He could be one. I'm gonna

476
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 1: run through a list of names here. You just tell

477
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: me if one of this group who you're looking forward to.

478
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 1: Here we've got We've got the Monte Casey from San

479
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 1: Diego State, about a grea Senior Bowl Kevin King. The

480
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: other corner at Washington is a six three corner. Camp

481
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 1: Sutton from Tennessee. Camp his nickel, his nickel build, his ability.

482
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: He played safety, played corny, jumped into slot. You're looking

483
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: for you guys in those rounds. You're looking for guys

484
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: that can do a variety of different things. He's one

485
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: of those that we know he can do that. All right.

486
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: That's how about Quadrea Tankersleep from Clempson. Now I have

487
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: a tough time because he grabbed a home. He gets

488
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: a little handy. I think he could be a guy

489
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: that has a lot of penalties at the next level.

490
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: He panicked a little bit at the top of routes

491
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: to that that that worried me. All right, let's go

492
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 1: through the safeties real quick. Here the two guys at

493
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: the top. We're not gonna see Millie Cooker workout, he

494
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: said recently had surgery. Jamal Adams, we will get a

495
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: chance to see him work out from l s U.

496
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's everything heaving watching day, like watching tape

497
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: coming out here. His ability to play not only in

498
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: the post, but to play uh in the box, to

499
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: come down and instinctively make plays. He is a pack leader,

500
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: a leader. He gets him going, he's physical. I really

501
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: like him a lot. I think he could be a

502
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: guy that you talk about a top two three player.

503
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker will see how big he is. Is listed

504
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: I got him here and guests him, guessing him around

505
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: five pounds. He's gonna run the fourth threes. He's gonna

506
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: be I think he could be a big time nickel

507
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: at the next level who could also play high if

508
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: he needed him to. Yeah, I think he's in that

509
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: conversation kind of as Honey Badger in terms of tyrone

510
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Matthew the way they use him in Arizona. I think

511
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Buda Baker could play in a similar role. All right,

512
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: maybe the most intriguing player at the combine Jabrill Peppers

513
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: from Michigan, Bucky. I met with him last week, and uh,

514
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, like some of the concerns

515
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: that I had with him, you're gonna ask him to

516
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: do stuff he's never done before. But when you sit

517
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: across from him and hear his story, how he grew up,

518
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: the hardship that he faced, how he came out the

519
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: other side of it, to have his to have his

520
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: upbringing as challenging as it was to be making your

521
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: choice between Stanford and Michigan. That to me says a

522
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: lot about this kid. And in this we're we're you're

523
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: trying to get to know the kid because you're willing

524
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: to bank on the character. His character is impeccable when

525
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: it comes to his his real character and his football character.

526
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: He's a guy that works hard. We talked about the

527
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: conversation where you talked about Von tearing and playing lineback

528
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: and being out of position and knowing that it kind

529
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: of affected some other parts of his game. I believe

530
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 1: that he can do so many different things that some

531
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: team out there review him as kind of like the

532
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: Swiss Army Knight that you need in the back up. Yeah,

533
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: he he was. He was impressive. We talked about the

534
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl. I was down there at that game, and

535
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 1: you remember he went through warm ups but did not

536
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 1: play in the game and told me about hurting his

537
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: knee the day before in practice. It ate him up.

538
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: It got the sense of it ate him up that

539
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't play in the game, but coach Hardball wanted

540
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: him to go up to the booth. He couldn't be

541
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: on the sideline with his guys, and that to me,

542
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: when you talk to him, he had a couple of

543
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: time with that not being around his guys and being

544
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: able to kind of provide that leadership they needed. Teams

545
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: that are trying to kind of rejuvenate their program looking

546
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: for leaders He's a kind of guy that can do that.

547
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: And so sometimes you take a guy who maybe a

548
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: little lesser of a player a certain position, but he

549
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: brings that leadership characteristic because he's gonna have that team

550
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: get going. All right, This draft is loaded at stick

551
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna give you three guys that are going

552
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: to create all kinds of buzz this week at the combine.

553
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: All three of them are outside my top fifty. I

554
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: think all three of them end up being top fifty.

555
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Pick Josh Jones from NC State is gonna run and

556
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: jump out the gym Obi Mellan fund with from Connecticut

557
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: at six nineteen pounds. We've seen him play some corner

558
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowls and they said his testing is

559
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna rival Byron Jones, and we saw the show he

560
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: put on here a couple of years ago. And then

561
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams from Utah was told he's gonna run in

562
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: the low four fours, he's gonna jump over forty inches,

563
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna broad jump at or above eleven inches. He's

564
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the four point of student. He's gonna

565
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: blow people away in the interviews that Marcus Williams rocket

566
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: ship will take off this week. Yeah, Marcus Williams is

567
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: got very versatile. Uh, there's something that look at him

568
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: as a guy that maybe he could even bump outside

569
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: and play some corner. All those guys that you mentioned

570
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: in that tier that are outside the top fifty, they

571
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: have some versatility, They have some toughness in the athleticism.

572
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: And so when you're thinking about the position, in the

573
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: way the safety of vision safety position is evolving, you're

574
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: looking for a better athletes that are also communicated and thumpers.

575
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: All those guys have just straight justin Evans from from

576
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: Texas and m again a really good player who in

577
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: and in other years might be a second round pick.

578
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: You might get a tremendous you with him in this draft.

579
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: Loaded draft, I mean a loaded draft in the back

580
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: in all kinds of playmakers and balls. All right, well,

581
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: we've did it. We've we've previewed the defensive side of

582
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: the ball. In the dark here, I would say, it's

583
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: great to see you, but I can't see you. But anyways,

584
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: let's let's roll our interview here with Miles Garrett's high

585
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: school basketball coach. Before we wrap this thing up, Jeff

586
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Plemons is joining us here. Jeff, is that Jeff? You

587
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: still at Martin High School there in Arlington, Yes, sir, Well,

588
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. First of all, but why

589
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: don't you tell us about your your first experience when

590
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: you learned about Miles Garrett and who he was and

591
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: think he might have something there. Well, Miles came in

592
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: and uh as a freshman and just his immediate size

593
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: pops out at you. U. Why the length of his

594
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: arms is another thing that really stands out to you. Um.

595
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: And you you just knew he was going to be

596
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: a special athlete. You know, a coach and thinking about

597
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: trying to get football players to play basketball, and you

598
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: talked about the athleticism. How does his athleticism translate from

599
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: the football field to the basketball court. Oh, he had

600
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: an immediate impact coming into the gym. One Miles. Miles

601
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: loves the game of basketball and he was around the

602
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: gym as much as he possibly could when he wasn't

603
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: on the football field. Uh. There were a lot of

604
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: times his teammates loved him and he would be in

605
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: the basketball locker room with the basketball guys. I'd be

606
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: talking to him and wouldn't even know he was in

607
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: there until I hear some of him giggle and I

608
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: turned around. There's Miles sitting with the basketball kids. That

609
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: is great. What was his What was his personality like

610
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: in general with with the group. Man, He's very laid back. Um.

611
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: He's just a natural leader. His energy and his athleticism

612
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: ignite everybody around him. Um. Like I said, his teammates

613
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: loved him. There was one Saturday practice where to finish

614
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: up he had to we had to make ten free

615
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: throws in a row. Everybody did and and Myles wasn't

616
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: the greatest free throw shooter around. But it took him

617
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: a while. But there wasn't one kid that left the

618
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: gym him. They all stood around him, charity him on uh.

619
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: And it was probably a good thirty or forty five

620
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: minutes by the time he finally made his ten in

621
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: a row. But he stayed there until he got him

622
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: and every every one of his teammates was right there

623
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: with him along the way. The coach with that in mind,

624
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: what was he like as a worker? What was his

625
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: work ethic like when you had him on the basketball team? Oh?

626
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: He was. He was relentless. He loves to compete, regardless

627
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: if it's trying to make ten free throws in a

628
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: row or just daily practice and doing a drill. Uh.

629
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: He goes as hard as he can. Um. He's as

630
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: explosive of the players I've ever been around. And the

631
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: bigger the game, the bigger he performed. Is there a

632
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: play in in his basketball career that stands out here.

633
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Is there an example, you know, we see the explosiveness.

634
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: I remember just watching the tape this year. As as scouts,

635
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: we you know, we kind of chuckle when we watch

636
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: the U c l A game just to see what

637
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: he did in that game. Just kind of some some

638
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: rare stuff that he brings. Is there a player, a

639
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: moment or a game where you recall is uh or

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Speaker 1: fondest Miles Garrett memory. There's two that really stick out

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Speaker 1: to me. Every year around Christmas, we play in the

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Speaker 1: water Burger Tournament, which is one of the top Christmas tournaments.

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Speaker 1: Are Brown and we had the pleasure of playing Bill

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Speaker 1: at Kentucky, which they had Derek Willis who plays for

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Speaker 1: Kentucky now and and Miles had a very powerful dunk

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Speaker 1: over Derek during that game that that the people from

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Speaker 1: the water Burger Tournament are still talking about to this day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, we ran an inbounce play just about

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00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: every game four Miles. It was a live play and

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: it got got to where the crowd knew we were

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Speaker 1: fixing to run it. Ever, the other team knew we

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00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: were fixing to run it. You would see cell phone

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00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: cameras coming out in the bleachers and he would go

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00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: up and crush at least one or two each game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just so strong. They couldn't stop him.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get video, coach. I'm telling you, we gotta

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Speaker 1: see some video with these dunks. And yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: the video. I'm I'm really intrigued. Now, do you think

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Speaker 1: he could have had an opportunity to play basketball in

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Speaker 1: college as a D one player? Maybe there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt he absolutely could have. He uh said,

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Speaker 1: he's so strong and he's so powerful. Uh, if he

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Speaker 1: would have, you know, continued to put the time into

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Speaker 1: basketball like he did with football. Um, he could have

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Speaker 1: very been a very impactful four or five for somebody

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Speaker 1: at the D one level. Does he have a switch, coach?

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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that people will say

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Speaker 1: about him, everybody just what a great dude he is.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen him get upset and flip a

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Speaker 1: switch and and get angry? Um, one time stands out.

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Speaker 1: We we lost a game at the buzzer to a

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Speaker 1: district rival, and um, somebody forgot to block out and

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Speaker 1: there was a shot tipped in. I'm not gonna name

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Speaker 1: any names, but after the after the game, one of

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Speaker 1: the one of the stalls in our locker room. Uh

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Speaker 1: was no longer hanging on the wall the next day,

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Speaker 1: and at his credit, when we played them again at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season, we absolutely demolished them at

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Speaker 1: their gym, and Miles had some blocks in that game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That we're pretty phenomenal. That's a great story. He loves

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Speaker 1: to hear about that. That that competitive streak. Uh, any

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Speaker 1: other thing that that stands out to you about his

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Speaker 1: personality when he's out and about in the community. What

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Speaker 1: kind of guy is he amongst the regular students in school?

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Speaker 1: How was how did he engage with everybody outside of

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Speaker 1: the athletes. You know, he's he's just like a regular guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, the perfect example is a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, he's in the gym playing with

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Speaker 1: some little freshman pe student um and just having the

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00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: best time ever listening to seventies music, playing a little

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: pickup basketball. Other than the monstrosity of his size, you

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00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that who he was based on just how

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00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: he interacts with everybody. He's just Miles. He always has

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Speaker 1: a smile on his face and and wherever he's at

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00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: that that seems to be the place to be. That's

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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a great thing to say about somebody. Well, coach, hey,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking some time out of your schedule

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Speaker 1: to visit with us here and tell us about your

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Speaker 1: your basketball player. There. Man, it's the NBA trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: He might have been He might have been in the

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Speaker 1: mix for one of the NBA trades a few years

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Speaker 1: down the road. If he had wanted to go the

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Speaker 1: other way. It sounds like he could have. It's a

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Speaker 1: very good possibility. I appreciate the time. Thank you, all right,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Knows. I mean, what a fun, fun conversation. I

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00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: love and learning more about these top guys, and what

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00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: better way to learn than to go back to their

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00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: high school days and find out what they were like

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Speaker 1: a lot inside. But I want to know what the

710
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Speaker 1: inbound play was. He said they scored on all the

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Speaker 1: time when they threw the loble is Garrett. I need

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Speaker 1: to see that. We need video. I got to get

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Speaker 1: some video of that. We're efforting. We're efforting to get

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Speaker 1: some video of Mile Scarrett plane hoops. Bucky, alright, we're

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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. The combines get already crank up on Friday,

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Speaker 1: nine am. That's when everybody can lock in. You can

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Speaker 1: find You're gonna be on on digital right, NFL dot Com,

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Speaker 1: NFL everywhere. Come on, love, We're gonna take care of that. Me,

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Speaker 1: Matt Money, Smith, I Ken mg D. Colleen is also

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Speaker 1: in the building, so we should have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun on this side. And I'll be with Jass I

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Speaker 1: forgot Atlantic, who's watching a million of these guys. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to catch up the lance in terms of how

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Speaker 1: many guys he's watched. He's watch more than I am.

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Speaker 1: He's ahead of me. I'm gonna catch him, no buck.

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Speaker 1: But then we're gonna we got the network coverage as well,

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Speaker 1: So if you're your TV, you can pop on NFL network.

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Speaker 1: I'll be with our buddy Charles Davis here in the concourse,

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00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: floating around somewhere doing our things. So we have you

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Speaker 1: covered all through the weekend, all the way through Monday.

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Speaker 1: You watch all these guys work out. See what see

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Speaker 1: what next year's NFL freshman class looks like. Be the

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Speaker 1: first one to check it out here in Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: All right, Buck, that's gonna do it for us. We

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Speaker 1: will will be back next week and we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: in studio two times a week. Rumor has it we

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Speaker 1: have a we could have a sponsor for Move to Sticks.

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Speaker 1: Revealed that yet, but there's a hot rumor out there

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Speaker 1: that that could could take place, and I'm feeling rather

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Speaker 1: patriotic about it. I say. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: with Moving six. Thank you guys for checking it out.

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