1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and it is a beautiful Friday 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh. And well, we have some clarity about 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: the quarterback position this week. Mike Tomlin's saying today that 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: as expected, Justin Fields will start on Sunday, but Russell 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: Wilson will be active as the number two. Tomlin's saying 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: he liked what he saw from Russell Wilson this week 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: as he took the number two snaps all week. Yeah, 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: and he now, yeah, just needs to knock the rust 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: off and you know, get acclimated to playing football again. 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: And so the door is open at some point were 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson to be this team starting quarter back. And 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: the ball is now in Justin Field's court. I think 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: this might be the last time we see Justin Fields 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: as a starter. I think I think Russell Wilson is 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: healthy next week, yeah, yeah, which he has shown to 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: be now he takes the number one snaps next week 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: and is the starting quarterback when the Steelers come back 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: from Las Vegas, and I'm not ruling out the possibility 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: that we see Russell Wilson in some capacity in this 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: game on Sunday. 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: I mean talk about knocking the rust off. I mean, 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: a real game would go a long way to knock 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: the rust offs. I mean maybe you're up big or 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: things are going wrong, right, yeah, right, right right, I 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: mean that would make some sense. I'm excited to see it. 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: I mean in any capacity, I'm sure Justin could have 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: a phenomenal game. Absolutely, you know, just maintained it. I mean, 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't think anything set in stone. The fact that 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: they're both healthy is great, and now we know, you know, 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: I mean I think again it is a tough decision. Yeah, 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: in terms of who is who? Who do you pick 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: as a starter? They both have pretty good cases. 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I understand Tomlin's reasoning this week. I 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: mean again, Fields took all the first team snaps. 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he practiced and prepared to play for this game, 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: so you're not gonna I saw people out there saying, 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: why you know Russ could start on Sunday. I never 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: thought that, but him being active and being ready to go, 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: I think next week is is is. 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: Prime time for him? 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and quite literally, since it is a prime time, 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: I think. 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: So many people will be like, well, if he's finally 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: healthy enough, and then why does he get started? You know, like, 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: but he didn't take the first team reps all week, right, 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: you know. I mean that's what it comes down to, 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: is one guy practiced for the Raiders with Pickens and 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: Siamlu and all the guys that are going to be 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: on the field. Eric I didn't because there's only so 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: many hours in a day, right, So. 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: I think that's what it comes down to. Also, it 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: looks like the Steelers will have Jalen Warren back. 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: This way heard. That makes me very happy. I would 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: give him a lot if he can handle it. I 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: think he's a they need a boost on offense. I 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: think he could absolutely provide it. Not super impressed with 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: the Raiders defense. I think Warren's a really good player 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: that could help his team a lot right now. 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of been out of sight, 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: out of mind for for Jalen Warren, and I think 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: having him back will open some things up in the 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: running game and even on third downs. Just absolutely the 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: things that he does on third downs it's very valuable. 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if even if that's if he he 70 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: knocks the rust off just as a third down player, 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: it makes you a better team. Yeah, I mean, if 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: there's more than that, great, you know whatever. 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: I'll also note this, so I don't know if they'll 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: use him on kickoffs or not, but he had been 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: doing that prior to the injury. It was him and Patterson, 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: Him and Patterson back there aren't familiar. The Raiders have 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: allowed eleven kick returns this year. They've not been a 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: team that has kicked it through the end, much like 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the Cowboys last Yeah, and so we got to see 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: four kick returns last week against the Cowboys. I'd like 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: to see Jalen Warren get those kick returns. 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: I love the Patterson to get him. But Warren will 83 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: be just fine. 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: We saw one last night taking back for a touchdown 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: in that game against with the forty nine ers in Seattle, and. 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: I would think he'll be back there, right, I mean, 87 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: who knows for sure. I mean I don't think you 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: have two of the practice squad running backs active. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're not gonna be able to do that. 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to do that. Champlin's on 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: the active roster right now. 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna that's what I mean. Yeah, him and another guy, Jonathan. 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they called Jonathan Ward up this week 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: because they're gonna need to just use those two spots 95 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: that you can elevate guys with for linebackers. 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: Oh, good point too. Yeah. I would think Warren being 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: healthy makes that a little easier that your three backs 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: will be shamp Shamplin, Warren, Nausey. Yeah, okay, and so. 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: It's probably you know, I would think the Warren and 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: Shamplin are the two deep backs. 101 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I was thinking as well. Yeah, that makes sense, 102 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: so fine with that. Yeah, okay. I didn't realize the 103 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: Raiders were a kick it in the zone type of team. 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: They certainly are. Eleven I think they've only had. 105 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: They don't score that many touchdowns either. 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: Right, I actually looked it up last night. I'm like, 107 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: eleven's a lot. I wonder how many actual kickoffs they've had, 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: and it's probably around sixty. I didn't get the exact number, 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: but I think they've scored eleven times, okay, and they've 110 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: played five games, so if so fact, I assume it's sixteen. Yeah, 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: that would make eleven out of sixteen they've allowed to be. 112 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: Over fifty percent. Yeah. Actually on ESPN it tells you 113 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: their touchback rate, and maybe it's over fifty percent. I 114 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: don't know. 115 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they've kicked one that landed 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: short of the. 117 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Land that kind of stuff. Who knows exactly. Yeah, but 118 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: that's great. You actually see some opportunities. 119 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to see Cordero Patterson get those on 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: the GA. Yeah, that got none yet last game too. 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, that's just something to keep an eye on 122 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: for this game. Uh, this Steelers, we'll get some opportunities 123 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: to maybe break a return they should. 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: That changed. It was a big deal last night. 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: Have you drawn any conclusions on this dynamic kickoff yet? 126 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: Not really. It seems like once the season started rolling, 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: there's so much other stuff to talk about that I 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: don't think it's changed the game all that much. 129 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: I wrote about it my five for Friday today on 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com. The returns are up slightly. It was 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: twenty two percent last year. Now it's thirty percent. Okay, 132 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: so it has it increased that some returns. I think 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: it's the weather starts to turn here, we're going to 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: see more and more of this. But there are some 135 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: teams that aren't afraid to kick it off and allow 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: teams to return it. 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: Again. 138 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are one, the Raiders are another one. 139 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: And maybe it's see you write a little bit last night, 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: I was doing it too. Yeah. Remember I thought he 141 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: was good at it in Latrobe. 142 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: Maybe it's some of these warmer weather teams that are 143 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: just like we're gonna. 144 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: Was booming away. Yeah, but you made this point. Even 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: you know, all off season, like when you go to 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: Buffalo and the wild Guard Round, you probably aren't even 147 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: be able to reach it, right, you know, there's gonna 148 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: be time. 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: I might struggle to reach the landing zone in some 150 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: of those games. 151 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: But I don't think it's changed the league. But even 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: if you get eight percent more returns, it did something 153 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: positive that. 154 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Well, again, we saw a kickoff return for a touchdown 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: last night. That's the second one this season by my count, 156 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: there were only three. There were three all of last year. 157 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so if we get the four or five, yeah, 158 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean's more points, it's more excitement, right, Yeah, I 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: guess you're less likely to go get a beer or 160 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: use a bathroom or whatever now than you would before. 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 162 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. We'll get a better handle on 163 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: this rest of the Steelers' injury report here as the 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: show goes on today. 165 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: That's great news about Warren. 166 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean getting getting you know, just having 167 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: those two available in Wilson and Warren, it's kind of 168 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: like the gang starting to get back together here offensively anyways. 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: I mean, unfortunately the league works this way, but people 170 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: getting plucked off the plucked away from you here week 171 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: after week, and now some of your guys are coming back. 172 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, I remember what things we really 173 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: haven't seen Warren at all, Like we find kind of 174 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: rob all year. I mean, and it's easy to forget, 175 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: like you said, out of sight, out of mind of 176 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: what a contributor he was last year, and I mean, 177 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: what a good football player in all facets. Yeah. 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Also to me, I think Dylan Cook is starting 179 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: to ramp up. I wouldn't be surprised if if he's 180 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: ends up getting activated next week. 181 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: So I mean, you hope you don't need that depth, 182 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: but you need. 183 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: That depth be a nice addition at the tackle position 184 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: in particular, just to get because the body plays. 185 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, another true tackle would go a long way. 186 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then as we mentioned before, I mean Alex 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Highsmith looks like he's trending, uh, definitely towards playing next week. 188 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: So something's not even that far away. 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing, like we're just a few 190 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: weeks away from that. He is also you know, he's 191 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: he's been at the facility. He couldn't be there the 192 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: first four weeks of the season because of the suspension, 193 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: but the last the last four weeks of the suspension 194 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: he's allowed to be there being meetings and then work 195 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: with trainers. 196 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he can lift and he can do 197 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: the medical stuff being meetings, he just can't be on 198 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: the practice field. 199 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: So they're getting yeah, yeah, a little hopefully that hopefully 201 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: don't get hit hard this week, you know again, but 202 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: it'd be nice to string a week or two of 203 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: not losing guys out. 204 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: Have something to look forward to, some boosts as opposed 205 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: to just looking at who we lose now. 206 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So what do you think the outside linebacker 207 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: situation is? I mean, do you think it's Wyndman was 208 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: a guy my pursued us from Michigan State? Of course, 209 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, we were talking about him a little bit 210 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: last night, and I thought he did some good things 211 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 3: at camp. He's not a true every down edgesetter, but 212 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: the pre looky Yeah, I mean he can do both. 213 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: But he's got special team background too. I would think 214 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: he's got Yeah, I mean I would assume more of 215 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: the All we were talking about last night is he's 216 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: the michelob Ultra version of her big when everyone's healthy. 217 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, he's your third guy. I come in, spark plug, 218 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: edge rusher type, but you don't want him out there 219 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: all the time. Yeah. 220 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I think Ogan dj Is is probably the third guy 221 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: behind Moon. He started twenty six games in the league. Yeah, 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: a bigger body guy, six four two sixty. 223 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: He's thicker, ye stouter. 224 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the other the other one late Lioda 225 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: Aku Liota hasn't been here. I mean he just signed 226 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: last week. 227 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: We were talking about him last night too, and I 228 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: didn't know who he was, yeah, and I was like, 229 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure who that dude is. He's like, ay, 230 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: they just signed him. 231 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it could it could be Winmen who 232 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: gets a helmet and again would help you out on 233 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: some specialty. 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: You know, right, right, Maybe third downs or whatever. Yeah, 235 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: So we'll. 236 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: See how that goes as well. But I expect both 237 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: elevations from the practice squad this week to be linebackers guys, 238 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: yeah yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just linebackers. 239 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 240 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: You know, whether their edge guys are you know, again, 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: I don't consider Winmen a true edge no. 242 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: I think he's kind of the Timins type. You know, 243 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: you can do a little bit of all of it. 244 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some value in that as well. And 245 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: he made some plays in the preseason in training camp. 246 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: He showed up over and over. Yeah, I thought he 247 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: was a borderline roster guy. 248 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: They didn't sign him though. They they signed Leota Liota 249 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: first though, Okay, so they were all available, they deferred him, 250 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe they feel better because Winmen 251 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: has been here and at least went through training camp 252 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: and everything. Has a better understanding the defense because you know, again, 253 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 2: one of the big things that Teroll Austin talked about 254 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: Thursday when he spoke to the media was a communication 255 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: stuff been an issue. Yeah, and it's not even necessarily 256 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: those guys up front, but they do need to communicate 257 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: as well, and nowhere they're supposed to be and. 258 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: That that would favor winmen. I would imagine, and I'm 259 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: looking at him as the four you know, special team 260 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: or ten snaps you know that. 261 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that could be louder Milk again. Yeah, 262 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't love that, but I get it. 263 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: I mean, like he's athletic enough to be on kickoffs 264 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: and things like that. He's a big, big body obviously 265 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: for there. But any mean he's not going to bend 266 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: the edge and do her big things. No, it be 267 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: hard to run out on the edge. 268 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: If he just occupies miller left tackle, that's game. It's 269 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: like using your pond to take the queen off the board, right, 270 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: And Miller's not a queen necessarily, but he but in 271 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: the scheme of the right, right, I mean, if I 272 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: can occupy their best offensive lineman with a guy who 273 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: is not my best pass rusher. 274 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: And play ten on the rest of them, or you know, 275 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: four on five or four on four with the lineman 276 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: you know there are four on three. Yeah, that is 277 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: worth it, you know. Yeah, as long as they're not 278 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: like pancake and you and running behind you. You know, 279 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: as as long as you guys can go. 280 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: Do anything like louder Milk is a run stopper. 281 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: He'll be fine for that fie with that Yeah on 282 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 3: the edge like that, no doubt. 283 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm run Well, Yeah, they don't, They 284 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: really don't. Right, terrible game for this situation. Yeah, be 285 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: out there, let's get through a break. He is the 286 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the 287 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back, 288 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: we'll be joined by Missy Matthews, Steelers side sideline reporter. 289 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: She'll be out there in Vegas with us. 290 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: We'll see. 291 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: I get a chance to talk to Missy here right 292 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: after this. 293 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 294 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 295 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio. 296 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're joined on the phone line here 298 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: on the Drive by Missy Matthews, the Steelers sideline reporter 299 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: and Missy. Weather's gonna be nice in Vegas, but we're indoors, 300 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: so it really doesn't matter. 301 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it will be weird. I feel like my 302 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: body has already got used to the fall weather. And yes, 303 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: for you know, like the thirty five degrees at the 304 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: bus this morning, so maybe the nineties will feel good 305 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: for once. Not where you're like, oh not again. 306 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: What's the chance is this is the best attended Steeler 307 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: game away game of the year. It sure seems like 308 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,119 Speaker 3: a good destination. 309 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: It does, you know, the only West Coast trip, and 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: you know Steelers fans that you know live out in 311 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: that part of the world, it's easier for them to 312 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: get there. I thought, you know, you saw it in 313 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: Denver a little bit. I think there was also a 314 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: lot of excitement for the Broncos in terms of back game, 315 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: but I did see I think it was Vivid Seats 316 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: projects that it will be fifty six percent Steelers nations. 317 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh really, well they were saying, yeah, they were saying 318 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: like forty six percent Cowboys fans last week, and I 319 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: don't think that they were. 320 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: Quite right about that. 321 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Way there were there, And that's the problem with it 322 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: with with two teams like the Steelers and Cowboys. Vivid 323 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: is looking at the area codes from where they're coming 324 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: from and guessing where those you know, so you know, yeah, 325 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: there's people from where I came in. I mentioned on 326 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: the pregame show on Sunday. I followed somebody into the 327 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: into my parking area on Sunday who was had a 328 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Texas license plate but was flying a Steeler flag. 329 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: I say, I bet there's people from LA that are 330 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: going to be Steeler fans that they are counting. 331 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: As Raiders fans, right, So you just don't know until 332 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: you get into the building. One other thing that we 333 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: do know now, Missy, is who's going to start a 334 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: quarterback on Sunday as Justin Fields. Mike Tomlins saying today 335 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: that Justin Fields will get to start, but Russell Wilson's 336 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: going to be the number two, which is obviously different 337 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: than what we've seen. Might we see Russell Wilson in 338 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: this game at some point on Sunday. 339 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: I'm not too sure. I don't think I'm at least 340 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: not surprised that Justin is starting to put together a 341 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: full week of practice that yeah, you're healthy enough to 342 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: be the number two. I mean when Justin you know, 343 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: the weird medical timeout where they didn't check him, but 344 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: then when the time that was over, the refs made 345 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: him Justin Fields go off the field to get checked 346 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: and Kyle Allen went in. I mean, Russ immediately was 347 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: like grabbing his helmet and starting to warm up. You know, 348 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: your the emergency third chances of you getting in or 349 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: are pretty slim, but you could tell the excitement of like, hey, 350 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: maybe there's a chance. 351 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: Was he he said, Yesterday's like, look, I had to 352 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: I had to get my shoulder loose just in case. 353 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: Like I've been standing there, you know, I haven't thrown 354 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: a football since pregame warm ups and now all the sudden, yeah, 355 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: pre pregame because he wasn't you know, necessarily doing that 356 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: in the pregame warmups. So he's like, I gotta get 357 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: loose again because I'm one play away from being out there. 358 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean, I will say him 359 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: Russ and Roman Wilson, I think when they both you know, 360 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: knew what their role is going to be for that 361 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: Dallas game, they both stayed out a little bit later 362 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: to throw and whatnot. And I always enjoy with Russell 363 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: Wilson wants to just throw, period and whether it's an 364 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: equipment guy or it's Mega Fitzpatrick, because he's always out 365 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: on the field, he'll find anybody. But I do think, 366 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, this week will certainly be different. I think 367 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: coach kind of laid it out but left a tiny 368 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: little window open. But I think when you're full, but 369 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: running with a second team doesn't make sense for you 370 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: to start. 371 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 3: So Missy, you've been fortunate enough. How cool is this 372 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: to be able to watch every TJ. Watts snap from 373 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 3: ground level of his whole career And you know, over 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: his time here, he's been pretty liberal about taking himself 375 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: out of games, get a breather here and there. They've 376 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: always had depth, but this year he hasn't as much. 377 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: And in this upcoming game, I don't know if he'll 378 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: be able to do it hardly at all with no 379 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: high Smith and her big, et cetera. How do you 380 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: think he handles that well? 381 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, TJ. He powered through in that 382 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: Dallas game. 383 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: He tried to come off at one point and they're like, no, 384 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: you gotta right, I can't do it right. 385 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes when he does come off, they'll give 386 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 4: him like the first and second down off and then 387 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: it's like third down, no matter what, you're going back 388 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: in there, obviously, But I think you know, you could 389 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: kind of see it and feel it when herbig went out. 390 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: Then you lose the l and then that's really when 391 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: you were like, man, TJ is digging deep right now. 392 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: And it's not like the offense was helping the defense 393 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: in terms of how many plays they were out there for. 394 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 4: You guys know TJ. You just watch him practice. He 395 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: doesn't do anything at less than one hundred and ten percent, 396 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: So it's not like he was going to go out 397 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: there and you know, kind of take a breather while 398 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: he went through the motions. I mean, he every snap 399 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: is played like it's his last. That's why he's so successful, 400 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: that's why he is who he is. But I do agree, 401 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: I think you know, injuries are always an issue. We 402 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: saw it unfortunately happened last year with that middle line, 403 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: the inside linebacker position. I just feel like with the 404 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: outside guys, there's just the defense is just racking up 405 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: these injuries where you're kind of like, oh, man on 406 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 4: and you know, even Cam Hayward said this week, it's like, 407 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: how can you fast track getting to know your new 408 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: teammates that you don't really know but that you need 409 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: to play well? And that's kind of what they're doing. 410 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: So hopefully there's a plan in terms of how to 411 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: get the most out of TJ. Watt. Keep them on 412 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: the field as much as possible, but at the same time, 413 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: you can't kill them and then hope in the fourth 414 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: quarter if they need a stop with twenty seconds left, 415 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: that he's ready to go. 416 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game the offense definitely needs to 417 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: stay on the field. Yeah, and have some long, sustained drives, 418 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: the splash plays, and they talked about the splash plays 419 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: justin Fields talked about it yesterday. Those would be nice 420 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: to have, but I think first downs will do just 421 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: first downs, and having a thirteen play seventy yard drive 422 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: would not be the worst. Maybe a couple of those 423 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: this week wouldn't be the worst thing that happened right, right, or. 424 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: You know, a pick six or something. Get the defense 425 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 4: on and off. I'm with you, you know, especially those 426 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: two long drives, what was it sixteen and fifteen plays 427 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: by the Cowboys, I mean those were just gut punching killers, 428 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: not only to what happened with them, but I think 429 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: just the amount of time that was then off the clock. 430 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: And as you said, like the defense can't be out 431 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: there that much. 432 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: So it looks like Jalen warn Warren's going to be back. 433 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: You know, what kind of energy and spark do you 434 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: think he adds to the offense. 435 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I think a lot. I think, you know, 436 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: you go back and we all kind of forget because 437 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: Nagi and Jalen haven't played that much together this season. 438 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: What those two were able to do the one to punch, 439 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: and I think not having Cordero Patterson has hurt them. 440 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, there's only so much nage 441 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: you can do when you're dealing with a young and 442 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: constantly changing At least that's how it feels offensive line, 443 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 4: as I say, Umallow being back is great. Glad for 444 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: that to have a veteran presence, a guy who's pretty 445 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: much seen and heard everything possible to help those younger 446 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: guys on the line. They're still young guys, though, you know, 447 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: there's to be the mistake. 448 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, this will. 449 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Be the first week this season that they've started the 450 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: same offensive line and back to back games, assuming McCormick 451 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: starts at right, I'm sure, yeah, yeah, because they changed 452 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: it in week in week one, they went back to 453 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: the original start. It's just been it's it's been shuffling 454 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: constantly and and yeah, you're right, Missy, I mean it 455 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: just hasn't been the same group out there, and it's different. 456 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: And I also think too and I don't know, you know, 457 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: if you can see this as you know, on the 458 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: on the field of play, but it just seems like 459 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: opponents are attacking the line of scrimmage when when Nause 460 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: is in the game differently than than you know, because 461 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: he's he's not been you know, they didn't use him 462 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: on third downs I think one third down play last week. 463 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: So when he's in the game, everybody's assuming that they're 464 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: running the football. You can't do that as much. They're 465 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: not going to do that as much with Jalen. 466 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: No, definitely not. And I think even you know, we 467 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: would see some times, you know, the little like dinking 468 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: and dunking with the running back type thing. Just something 469 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: different I think could be helpful. But like you said, 470 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: it was dead obvious when now he was in there 471 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: what they were trying to accomplish and what the opposing 472 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: defenses are trying to take advantage of. I think Jalen 473 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: does bring something different to the running back position and 474 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: I think hopefully, you know, this is something that can 475 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: help the offense get out of this rut that it's in. 476 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: Like you said, don't really care about the explosive plays. 477 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: Sure would be great if it results in a touchdown. 478 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 4: But at the same time, especially you know on third 479 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: down and different things. We just it has not been fluid. 480 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: I know it's only going to be week six, but 481 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: still I can't stop thinking about the fact. Okay, a 482 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: few more games, bye week, after the bye week, Oh, 483 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: then you finally get to place an AFC North teams, 484 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: and then it's you know, will go from there. You 485 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: watch the Ravens, you know, beat the Bengals when you 486 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: were hoping it was the reverse last week. They probably 487 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 4: aren't feeling it as much. But I feel like from 488 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 4: an outside perspective, you're just thinking, all these are games 489 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: you have to win coming up. 490 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean you got to start stacking 491 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: some wins here. This is you know, they kind of 492 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: they get the early start there that was you know, 493 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: obviously good at three and oh and then you've kind 494 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: of given some ground back here the last two games, 495 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: and you still have those AFC North games ahead of 496 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: you that you can do something about. You know, the 497 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: gallant the ground that was gained, but you know, getting 498 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: some of these wins would certainly be very helpful, Missy. 499 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: George Pickens has been a big topic in Pittsburgh this week. 500 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: You've been on the sidelines for every game that he 501 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: has been in the NFL. Did you see anything different 502 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: from George last week than what we've ever really what 503 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: we've ever seen in terms of he does spike his 504 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: helmet or you know, you. 505 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: Could be a little volatible, It could be a little volatile. 506 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: And I just think everybody's radar was up about it 507 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: last week. People said, well, you know, I was watching 508 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: him on you know, as he came off the field, 509 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: and like, really, are we we at that point with 510 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: this stuff. He's He's a wide receiver. I I expect 511 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: that kind of volatility from guys at that position. 512 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think I joked with you guys 513 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 4: last week, but it's true. Like I watched Antonio Brown 514 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: chuck a gatorade pooler that almost took out Todd Haley 515 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: in Baltimore. I feel like I've seen my fair share 516 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: of you know, anger. I agree, nothing that George really 517 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: did was different than sometimes when he gets frustrated. I think, 518 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: you know, it was very clear that the Dallas secondary 519 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: was doing the great job of getting under his skin, 520 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: and I think sometimes that can be more compartmentalized, self contained. 521 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: And then I just think after the game, you know, 522 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: just going after the cowboy. Yeah, yeah, that is probably 523 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: one of those things. 524 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: Good look and the eyeblack's not a good look. I mean, 525 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: it's just some some things, some maturity things that you 526 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: need to do with that. But a receiver coming off 527 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: the field, you know, after the team didn't convert a 528 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: third down and spiking and. 529 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: Something they desperately needed. 530 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: It happens across the league in every game, right, I mean, 531 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: what if Zach Fraser did, nobody would have thought twice right, 532 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, agreed. 533 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: And I think that's you know, that's a fair point too. 534 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: I don't even think it's wide receivers. You know, I've 535 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: seen other players that I won't name so that people 536 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 4: don't get all angry about it on the offense do 537 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: some of the same things. I think it's just this 538 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: is their livelihood, this is what they want to do. 539 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: I agree with, you know, some of the imature things, 540 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: like maybe somebody could have ripped the eye black off 541 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: or been like dude, do you want that? Fine? That 542 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: kind of thing, not even so much like the you 543 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 4: know the spectacle that it caused. But yeah, hopefully I 544 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: think too. For whatever reason and maybe makes perfect sense, 545 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: Broderick Jones got Georgia connection. Sometimes he's like the guy 546 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 4: that can calm him down or at least just like 547 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: get him to like snap out of whatever mood he's 548 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: feeling in. And credit to Broderick because sometimes he can 549 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 4: be angry too. Trust me, I've seen a lot of 550 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: offensive lineman not nicely place their helmet on the bench, 551 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: but he is. He is definitely one of those guys 552 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: that I think can help. And I've said this before 553 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, he definitely is still a leader. Whether he's 554 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: the starting quarterback, the backup, or the emergency guy. He 555 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: is very in tune with what is happening. He's very 556 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: in tune with people's big feelings or whatever we want 557 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: to call them. 558 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: He don't just want to say that. I mean he 559 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: had DK Metcalf in Seattle. Dk Metcalf has gotten into 560 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: fistfights on the field, like this is not new here. 561 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Like quarterbacks, you know, veteran quarterbacks especially know how to 562 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: deal with these kinds of things. 563 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: The legion of Boom guys weren't all angels. 564 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: Either, right, No, and I think, yeah, you even heard 565 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: Ben talk about just there's definitely different personalities and it's 566 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: not even just shapes and sizes of wide receivers. There's 567 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 4: personalities too. And you can do the stereotypical gloss over everybody, 568 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: well they're divas. I think there's still different intricacies to 569 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: each guy. So I think it's probably a learning process 570 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: for Rus and Justin and them because this is their 571 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 4: folks first go round with George and actually Justine Justin. 572 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Has been with him forever, Like they go back to 573 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: high school at seven on seven drills and they were 574 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: on the same seven or seventeen. So you think, do 575 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: you think George was at fourteen or fifteen didn't toss 576 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: a helmet when he didn't get the football on a 577 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: seven on seven drils? You know, like, yeah, this stuff happens. 578 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. And I mean at first, it seemed like, 579 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: you know, as soon as we realized when Justin got traded, 580 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 4: the history that they had of playing in that league 581 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: that Cam Newton had, Okay, great, there's a connection there, 582 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: and you kind of saw it. But then I think 583 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 4: you said there can be another connection that hopefully this 584 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: is something that they can kind of work through. And 585 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure what people thought was going 586 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: to happen on Tuesday. Coach Tomlin's never going to stand 587 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 4: there and rip a player to shreds and give you 588 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: all the click baity headlines possible. There's so much stuff 589 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 4: that just even stays in house that doesn't get out 590 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: because that's just like the locker room culture. I mean, 591 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: remember the whole petty game ball thing in Denver. Justin 592 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: kind of said it, you know, laughing, and it's something 593 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 4: that happened. But then coach was like, yeah, I don't know, 594 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: you know, he's not going to give it to you 595 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: or let you use his words about things like that. 596 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised he didn't rip George, but I 597 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: do think it's he's very well aware of what's happening. 598 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh there's no doubt. And again, as you said, he 599 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: likes to handle that stuff in house. It doesn't mean 600 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: that there isn't discipline that happens with that kind of 601 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: stuff and we. 602 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 3: Just don't even know about it. 603 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it happens at every football team at 604 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: every level. When some coaches choose to talk about it 605 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: and some don't, and Mike's one that doesn't, so that's 606 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: doesn't mean he doesn't discipline those guys. Missy will let 607 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: you go. We'll see you tomorrow morning, bright and early. 608 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Get on that plane and fly to Vegas. You guys, 609 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: you guys have a bunch of free time. Though before kickoff. 610 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: It sounds like, well there's a watch party tomorrow night. 611 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you guys got plans already. 612 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: Huh, Bill Crawford, there you go. 613 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh cool. 614 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot. 615 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: Of Jimmy Kimmel laugh Factory. 616 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of a. 617 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: Lot of Pittsburgh's out there already. Yeah. 618 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of jealous on this one. 619 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: I like to gott you can have the middle seat. 620 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: There you go. 621 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: Special edition of the Drive from Live from Vegas. Our 622 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: guest has been Missy Matthews, a Steeler side on the 623 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Sideline Reporter. We appreciate her time. As usual every Friday, 624 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening 625 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers audio net work. 626 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back with more right after this. 627 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: And at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 628 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of 629 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio. 630 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the 631 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt you mentioned TJ. Watt, Yeah earlier. 632 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Happy birthday to TJ w I didn't know. Just turned 633 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: thirty three to zero. Pretty good first thirty years. 634 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: On the planet. 635 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: Not too bad. 636 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the field right right exactly compared to everybody 637 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: listening and everyone else. Yeah, not too shabby at all. 638 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Not too shabby. A lot of sad and became the 639 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: just the third player in NFL history to record one 640 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: hundred sacks before his thirtieth birthday. 641 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know that part. I knew the Reggie White 642 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: second to one hundred thing. 643 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: But Jared Allen's the other one, huh, remember I Jared 644 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: Allen came in the league a little younger or he 645 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: was pretty productive. He was pretty productive for that first 646 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: part of his career. 647 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he kind of hit a wall a little bit. 648 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: Had some issues off the field and stuff like that. 649 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: That Reggie Whites the other one. Yeah, it wasn't positive 650 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: because he came in the league late. 651 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like he was twenty four when he 652 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: came into the league. So, what two years in the USFL. 653 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: Two years in the USFL. Yeah, so, And I kind 654 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: of laid that out a couple of weeks ago my 655 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: five for Friday about White was at a different point 656 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: in his career. Oh yeah, he didn't really have a 657 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: true rookie season. Yeah, he was already it had hit 658 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: the ground running, and you know, he was a professional 659 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: athlete for thirty two games under his belt as a 660 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: professional athlete by the time he got to the NFL 661 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: and had his full grown man strength and oh yeah, yeah, 662 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: technique was better and his little older and all that 663 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: stuff too. It doesn't detract how great he was. 664 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: He was not at all. I mean he was also 665 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 3: almost three hundred pounds too. I mean he was a 666 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: different kind of beast. 667 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: He also did it at thirty seven, he was defensive 668 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: player of the year. 669 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: Was he really? 670 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: I knew he was great late, but I didn't realize 671 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: the defensive player at the sixteen SAX season at thirty seven. 672 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: Then retired and then they talked to him metic to 673 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: coming back at thirty nine, and he had like a 674 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: five and a half sack season at thirty nine with 675 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: the Eagles. 676 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: No, with the Packers. Oh right, right, right right, okay, yeah, yeah, 677 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: I forgot about that. I mean, that's that's crazy. He 678 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: did that that late in life. The other thing is 679 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: too people don't remember. But the USFL where he played 680 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: those first two years, was pretty serious football. I mean, 681 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: Herscha Walker and Steve gotmated a lot of guys. It 682 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: wasn't just him running over about a bunch of slacks, 683 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: right yeah, so yeah, it was. 684 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he was great. But to be for 685 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: want to be in that company, it's nuts. Yeah, I 686 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: mean we're seeing just think about it. For like the 687 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: Colts game. After the Colts game when he didn't have 688 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: a sack, Yeah, people like boy TJ didn't play very well. 689 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: They where was TJ at? Yeah, with the expectation is 690 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: every week, this guy's gonna go out there and wreck 691 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: a game. 692 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: Yep. And just on the top of my head because 693 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: watching that game last night, like Gino Smith didn't get 694 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: sacked once. But if you watch the game, I mean, 695 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: Bosa erecked it. And what does that all the time too? 696 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: I mean it's not always the numbers. I mean the 697 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: interceptions are because they're rushing it, because Bosa or Watt 698 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: or one of these guys is crashing it and Crosby 699 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: could do the same thing on Sunday. You know, there's 700 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: no question but those elite edge guys affect the game 701 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: in so many ways. And one, and this doesn't take 702 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: any away from Bud or high Smith or whomever, but 703 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: how many sacks would they have or production would they 704 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: have if they weren't singled as much as they were? 705 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: You know, I mean like things like that go a 706 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: long way. 707 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely does. And one thing to note, so 708 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: Max Crosby, I think I mentioned this earlier in the week. 709 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: He comes off the right side of the offense. Roger 710 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: Jones aside, Yeah, about seventy nine percent of the time, 711 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: so we're out of every five pass rush snaps are 712 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: on that side of the line. Broderick Jones this season. 713 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of this until I saw it in 714 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: the next gen stats. Yeah, he's a lot of half 715 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 2: a sack and twelve pressures on one hundred and thirty 716 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: nine pass blocks, which is a pressure rated just eight 717 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: point six percent. And his average time to pressure is 718 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: three point four to one seconds, which is really high, 719 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: which is ninth best among right tackles. 720 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and want that number to be higher, folks. They 721 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: want pressure to come late, late in the down. So 722 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: anything past three, I'm sure is I've never thought of 723 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: it through a tackles perspective, But if it's over three, 724 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: you did your job. You did your job. I mean, 725 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: there's no question about that. If you're doing a one 726 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: on one block against an NFL defensive end and you 727 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: hold it for three plus seconds, you're absolutely doing your 728 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: job because every every pass play is designed for the 729 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: ball to come out on under three seconds. 730 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: He and Pennay Sewell, who many people widely consider the 731 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: number one right tackle or certainly number two, are the 732 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: only two players at the position this season who have 733 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: not allowed a quick pressure. 734 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's under two point five under two 735 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: point five seconds. I mean that's hard to deal with 736 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 3: his quarterback, Yeah. 737 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: You know, and that's the you know, just getting beat 738 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: out of your snap and the guy gets around you, 739 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: and what's the quarterback going to do? 740 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the analytic community is getting a little 741 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: crazy in that they're and I appreciate it, to be 742 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 3: honest with you, Like, not all pressures are the same, 743 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: not all pass protections are the same. 744 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: Like the holding penalty that Broderick Jones got the second 745 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: one in the game that he got benched when he 746 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: was flipping back and for what was that, Denver. Yeah, 747 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: he's holding his block and Justin Fields decides to go 748 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: to roll to his right out of the pocket and 749 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: as the as the defender is disengaging, well, of course 750 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Broderick Jones has him and you're allowed to do this. 751 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: Gripped by inside the right right shoulders. He has two 752 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: handfuls of jersey, but it's inside the shoulders. As the 753 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: guy disengaged because the quarterback is running behind Broadrick, he 754 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: can't see it. 755 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: Fields didn't text him right this way. 756 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: The guy goes to break away and Jones is holding 757 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: his block. Well, now it looks like a hold, and 758 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: it officially is. I mean, you've got to throw that flag. 759 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: But now you're outside the body makes you look bad. Yeah, 760 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: running quarterbacks can make you look bad a lot. I mean, 761 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: because again, you never know where they're at right and 762 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: the ball doesn't always come out on time. And the 763 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 2: improv stuff is great, but sometimes you throw someone right 764 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 2: into a sack or right into your quarterback because again 765 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: they're not communicating with that guy. So I think there's 766 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: been a perception that Jones is having a bad season 767 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: or something that now I think his run blocking hasn't 768 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: been up the snuff as you would expect. Yeah, there's 769 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: been some you know, some whiffs and things of that nature. 770 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 2: His pass blocking has been fine. 771 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to watch them, hopefully a high percentage 772 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: against Crosby, and he'll be help of course, I mean 773 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: he should, but no, i'd like to I'm going to 774 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: zero in on that a lot watching it live and 775 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: then certainly go back and watch all those reps because 776 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 3: that's where is he really is a player right now. 777 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: I think you will give a much better idea on 778 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: Monday than we do even now. 779 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: And you know, oftentimes, you know, we have this kind 780 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: of matchup and you know, like this is a premier 781 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: matchup for him. 782 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: Like premiere two sacks last week too, And I know 783 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 3: he's fighting injury, but it's not like Prosby's playing badly. 784 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: No, No, it's still it's still Crosby. And you know 785 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: he's gonna go one hundred miles an hour. You get 786 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: to work against t. J. Watt every day in practice too, 787 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: so there's some of that. 788 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 3: Crosby does so many things well too. He has great, 789 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: great length. He's really tall, he's like six or five plus. 790 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: He's a really good bender, great off the ball, real 791 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: long strides. It eats up. I mean, he does a 792 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 3: lot of things well, but his hustle was remarkable to Yeah. 793 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's very good. So between Dan Moore, who 794 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if you believe the Pro Football Focus grades, 795 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: has been one of the top twenty tackles in the 796 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 2: league this year, regardless of position, right or left, and he's. 797 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: Been very solid. Yeah. I think that's undeniable. Yeah. 798 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jones, who's again doing a good job in 799 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: pass protection here. If you look at a lot of 800 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: the pressures that they've gotten, especially last week against the Cowboys, 801 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: was stuff up the middle. 802 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: It was, and that's where I worry least. Yeah, I mean, 803 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 3: I think McCormick will have growing pains, but I thought 804 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: he played really well in that game. He's more of 805 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: a get off the ball masher and he brings a 806 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: lot of attitude as his fraser. I don't think that, yeah, 807 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 3: he does. I don't think McCormick's a great athlete. I 808 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: don't think it's great lateral agility. There's some stiffness there, 809 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: but I think he makes up for more with tenacity 810 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: and physicality too. And I think if those are gonna 811 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: be your five the rest of the year, I think 812 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: you're okay. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know 813 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: that the line will ever become the great strength we 814 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: hoped it would be the day after the draft, you know, like, 815 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: I have the best line in the league. But I 816 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: think it'll get better, stabilize a little bit, and I 817 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: can live with those five. 818 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: I still think it's going to be a top fifteen 819 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: line by the end of the year. Yeah. 820 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: If it stays with those five, yeah, I mean, if 821 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: you're not digging too deep into the you. 822 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: Get the young guys it or they're going to continue 823 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: to get better. Absolutely, And you got some older guys there, 824 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: who are. 825 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: They have more? Three of those guys are still pretty young. 826 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: They have More's been the stabilizing factor. Everybody else on 827 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: that offensive line has either miss time or made their 828 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: first career start this year. 829 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: It's funny because I know people have been critical of them, 830 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: but I think there there's been a lot less of 831 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: that this year. Think people have realized. But he's almost 832 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: like the ten yere veteran. I mean, he's his first 833 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 3: contract's coming up. You know, it's not like he's been 834 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 3: on the block that much. Yeah. 835 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so he's kind of been that steadying factor there. 836 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: And the thing that everybody says about him is that 837 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: you just know what you're going to get every day 838 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: from the same mentality. 839 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And it's just and I think he's the 840 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 3: gread O line trade. Yeah. 841 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the reasons why the 842 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: coaching staff has appreciated him so much. They know exactly 843 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: what he is going to do every day. 844 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. And you don't with the two first round picks 845 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: because one of them just got here and the other 846 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 3: one's still on you know, learning is you know, growing 847 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 3: into his paws easily as much as well. Why wouldn't 848 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 3: Dan Moore just get replaced as a starter right off 849 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 3: the bat because I know what he does every day. 850 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he shows up to work. He's like 851 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: I say, he shows up to work. I mean he 852 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: shows up to. 853 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: Work, shows up and works yes, right, right right. 854 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: He doesn't just go through the motions. He shows up 855 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: and he works hard every day and he works at 856 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: his crafton As I always say, guys are allowed to 857 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 2: get better yeah. 858 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if he was an assembly line worker, 859 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: he'd have the same number of cars. You know every time, 860 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 3: you know, like nice, I know what I'm getting one 861 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: start in. 862 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: Four years, like as we see, you know, with with 863 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: this season in particular, that's that's. 864 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: That itself has a lot of value. 865 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't have to put somebody else 866 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: at left tackle because you left tackles. I mean, think 867 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: about the Dolphins with Armstead, right like you kind of 868 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: know he's gonna be six games. We're real happy, We're 869 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: real happy if you get twelve out of him. He 870 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 2: has never done it ever, played them all. Yeah, and 871 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: you just know it's coming. I just wonder, as I 872 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 2: mentioned with Crosby, he does eighty percent of his basically 873 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: eighty percent of his snaps are over the right tackle. 874 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: Where else are they looking at on this offensive line 875 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 2: to have him attack. 876 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how much you'd even. 877 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 3: I know he will bump to the inside. I mean 878 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: I've seen him over center. I know that I want 879 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: that for him. If I'm the Raiders, No, I mean 880 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: he's definitely gonna test Dan Moore. I mean, as mean, 881 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 3: he's going to line up some snaps that left tackle, 882 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: and if he is, if he's early success against one 883 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: versus the other, you might see me a more of 884 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: a trend, you know, Like, boy, he wit Dan Moore 885 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 3: in the first play of the game. Well, I'm gonna 886 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 3: stay over there, you know, I don't know. It's a 887 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: good question. I mean, yes, he is versatile enough to 888 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 3: go inside, but he's it's going to be against tackles 889 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 3: and tight ends, you know, a very high percentage of 890 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 3: the time. Yeah, I'm just wondering how different it will 891 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: be without Wilkins. 892 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 2: That's the thing, you know what I'm trying to Wilkins 893 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: in there. It takes away there. I mean, they spend 894 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: a lot of money on him. 895 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: Right, Like I wouldn't feel super comfortable with McCormick on 896 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: Wilkins alone. No, even Isaac, you know what I mean. 897 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 3: Like Wilkins is a really good player and you need 898 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: to help those guys. Yeah. 899 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: So not having this interior or not like that. Yeah, 900 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: not having that available for the Raiders, it's a big loss. 901 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: It's a big big It might be the biggest loss player. Yeah, 902 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean bigger than high Like not having 903 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: it's like not having Cam Heyward exactly exactly. 904 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: He's just a trick player that they went out and 905 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 3: really invested in and got a month out of him. 906 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a breaky man, the Matt Williamson. 907 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here 908 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. That's going to do it 909 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 2: for our number one, Matt and I will be back 910 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 2: with our number two right after this.